Press Conferences (Mylan Graham) Elite Edition September 2

0:00How the college players, the tempo, how fast it is, I'm running from a Mecca. I felt like a Mecca was a pretty solid pro even when he was here last year and I lied a lot from him. Like I said, understanding just the playbook more, just the tempo, runner, offense, and everything like that, a solid learn. What's your relationship about with your mom? We're pretty, we're pretty close. I say we're both, neither of us are too, pretty out-spoken, but I mean we're pretty cool. I'm tight with all the guys receiving them. It's just interesting because you got here early and such a big impact. We're developing a reality that we're going to have an impact together. I guess classmen, it's like it was that all of a sudden a good time coming together. Yeah, it was so good. Like you said, I think I got here last year, had like a amazing impact, it's useless as a fresh one, but yeah, I mean it would feel pretty good just to, both of us in the same class that had been to the same kind of impact. It's been like watching right our line, kind of stepping into his role. What do you think of his offense? I like it, I feel like he's more aggressive, but I like it. He still does a great job coaching himself, even though he doesn't, maybe happens much

1:02time, but I feel like he still does a great job with us, understanding he has to do with us and the whole offense, getting to them. He talked about other guys, definitely, guys like that, how much of an impact do other coaches make helping to keep trying to receive more of the scanners? I needed some of the older guys, it's going to be a part of the cool one. Yeah, I feel like coach Jordan, man, the older guys, the veteran room, good job of stepping up when coach R is not available. I feel like coach Jordan did a great job. People my first back here last year just having extra meetings with him outside of our already meetings, having extra meetings with him, just learning more, just taking away from him. I feel like he's been doing great job, since I got here. What do you think of fresh room here? I think they're solid up. I think they're solid up. I think they're solid. I like all of them. I feel like they all can grow definitely, and they all like, I expect, I know what they're doing, but I feel like they're all doing great job. Do you have to remind some of those guys, just because we've been here a long time, it's

2:05too much further ahead than you guys? Yeah, well, yeah, kind of. But I'm not really considering myself like a young guy anymore, since I've been here throughout the summer and the season, I kind of just trying to prepare myself to be a bit, almost, we're not really a younger guy, but I do try to be like a better and type of person to the young guys. When did that start? When did you stop feeling like you're going to get? I'd say really just, just, just, just coming with the spring and the winter, I feel like, like, I learned a lot as being in season, last year with the team, and that, like I could say, I would have a big role and just take a bigger step with the team and all of that, so I don't want to just get some of myself going anymore. Right? Saturday's pride, this just seemed like the competition between the receivers and the receivers is so passing and watching how talented those sides are. What would have you thought of that quarterback room and the way that they battle against you guys to crack this? Yeah, yeah, it's always like that. The IA does their, I mean, their logo. I mean, it's always like that. Even when people aren't here to see, like, we go back and forth and I'd almost like

3:07everything in fact, and so, I mean, it's not new to us. It's just a standard of the IA for some sense. That's it. We're just the best dash talker on the other side. I'd probably say I'd just be here to take me. They both get out there. Do you feel like the return game is a place you need to make them back this year? Yeah, I do. I do feel that way. I have did a little bit of a permuterning with some of our returners draw out the spring. I feel like I could have impacted. How much is it you forward to being in the shoot? Saturday being part of the offense? Really for the first time as a partner? Yeah, I'm excited. Just to actually get the step foot and actually, like, get rolling in the suit. It'll be a great feeling. I'm pretty excited for it. I played at Boston College, so that's kind of who I root for growing up. You're watching Boston College, right, dude? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I actually accidentally met him once. We went up for a game and we were just on the field and I think he was out there with his little kid at the time. For you personally, to come back here in state of Ohio,

4:08where you played your high school football, what does that mean to you? It's awesome. I mean, playing football on a high school is nothing better. I mean, the high school football is amazing. And, you know, I just think it's the best. So it's been great. Does that feel like you're on a casket? Yeah, those guys, I mean, those guys are awesome. I mean, I kind of asked for a better group to come in with. And I'm really bond with, I mean, showing up and being with them every day makes it so much easier. I mean, I love it. I think it's different as you've seen from, you know, being here versus being at Purdue. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think the day is still football, but there's differences. And just within a day-to-day routine, there's differences. And, you know, the way they coach certain things, it's different. So, you know, but still football, then, then... You didn't even live on with Justin playing with these level of four backs. Right, yeah. I mean, I mean, I think the day is still football. So I mean, you just go out there, run around, catch the ball, block people. I mean, so... How do you feel like you can kind of want to solve things, help us out things?

5:10Yeah, I mean, I'm just here to, you know, do whatever I can to make the team better. Whatever's asked for me, I'm going to do it full speed and give them all. You're receiving production, obviously, stood out. Yes. What makes you good in that area of good round run? Where do you feel like you're able to sort of succeed at the ask catcher? Right, yeah. I think I just, you know, have a good feel for the game when I'm running routes. And, you know, try to understand the whole play, the whole concept from a very deep level. Try to find those holes in the defense as well and be on the same page with the quarterback. Do you ever receive a backhand? No, no. So I actually played quarterback growing up until my junior year of high school. So I was going to win on maybe the transition to tie-down. Why'd you switch? There's just some things, I was a tied quarterback battle and the coach knew I could play tie-down. So, you know, I kind of wanted to do it too. There's something that I was interested in. So it's kind of how that came about. Do you get to do this where 51 kind of slots you have? Right. I'm not here to tie the game to that one. I'm here with 40 kind of slots.

6:11Yeah. I'm sure you had a lot of suitors. Why come to a place where that's not necessarily been a test history in terms of production. Right, yeah. I think Coach Key, I mean, he hit on all the things I wanted to hear. And, and some things I didn't want to hear, you know, I mean, that's, that's real as a coach. And you want to be in an environment that's going to push you in all aspects of the game. And being a tied-in, it's not just about pass-catching. You know, you got to block. And, you know, I think that's something that I want to keep developing. And, you know, going against these guys every day, I mean, running routes and blocking these guys every day. I mean, it's going to make you better. So I think I have a, you know, a vision of where I want to be as a tied-in. And I think this place gives me the best opportunity to do that. That's like getting production more about well-rounded yourself. Yeah, I think so. I just, whatever way I can help the team, whatever they're asked for me to do, I'm going to do. So, what did you want to hear from me? What was he saying that you didn't like your career? I mean, I liked everything. But, like, you know, you know, Coach is like, they sometimes just tell you what you want to hear.

7:13You know, you don't always want that. You want someone that's real. And he kept the rule with me, you know, he showed some things that like, I need to improve on. Which I like to hear, but not everyone wants to hear. You know what I mean? So stuff like that. And that's your own is a really good route, don't you? Which of the dissenders so far has been practicing getting the best part? Yeah, I mean, they're all great. There's so many of them. I mean, I think, you know, honestly, I'm not, I'm so locked in on the plays at the time. They're like, I don't really have time to see who's even across from me. So it's kind of hard to really think about who's giving me the most trouble at this moment. Keanu was saying, Caleb and Nathan kind of vouch for you or told me you were a good player from the, from the Brewer game. Have you ever changed the dark to Caleb or late to the day? Yeah, I did. Yeah, late thing's awesome. Got to know him a little bit before he went off and started training. So he was awesome to be around, awesome to talk to and same with Caleb. They're just great people. They're your teammates. They're in your corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've been great so far.

8:13How much did it help you just cause? You're in January and having that opportunity to be with the team as they went on that national team. Right, yeah, it was great. I mean, just seeing the culture they have here and how they run things. You know, they had, they had that group of guys that really, you know, led the way and showed, showed me what it looks like to win here. So it was awesome. Thanks. Thank you. I mean, he's coming to us on. Jim Nell said they, for you, it was confidence and reps and the support. Very more confident right now. Like I said earlier, just playing a lot faster. I feel like I'm more calm out there. I feel like the moment isn't too big. I feel like getting bigger throughout the, throughout the year and when I was hurt, definitely helped me. Caleb's just a fantastic team. Stayed as a kind of legendary, which the way that I was. I think the great thing about Caleb is he's such, like a likable person, a likable teammate, a great teammate.

9:14He helped, he'll help you, he'll help any of the teammates. He's definitely, he definitely knows what he's doing. He's a great player. And for me, he just pushes me to be better every day. I think with, with your, we're being so stacked as this, we're having guys, you're mild, right? Do you think that there could be the opportunity though for you guys to all see you quite a bit of time, throughout the season, and not just towards the end of the game, it's a mock up duty kind of playing time, but like some real meaning for reps. I think that our room definitely has a lot of great players, but as far as playing time, like that's a question for your coach and all of us. What do you mean if you guys kind of been prepping for that though, throughout the court camp, maybe switching in and out, and then really kind of seeing the auto-blend two action? We're definitely, we're all getting, like, reps at each spot. So like, it's not just a just our band anymore. It's not just, it's not just you're here, you're there. We're all playing different positions. We're all learning different techniques. So it's making each one of us more versatile.

10:14So you've been playing so many of them too. Yes, so. How comfortable do you feel about strong savings? I feel comfortable in any safety spot. So it's, I mean, the more reps you take, the easier it is, and I played both safety spots last year, so it's not really that big of a transition. What are the differences between the two spots that you have to be used to? Honestly, this year they made it so they're kind of, they're, I mean, they're both, they're both, you have to do each thing in both spots. So like, you have to come down and make tackles at bandy, you have to come down and make tackles at adjust at home. Obviously, it's boundary and feel so that the space is a little different, but I mean, you have to do everything that both say these. What's different, what's different this camp compared to last camp? For me personally, I feel like I have, I developed a better routine. I feel like I'm more mature and what I'm doing, and I feel like just go out there and play and have fun. I think that's the biggest thing for me.

11:15Don't get too caught up on the last play. What have you added or what have you improved to your routine? I think just getting here earlier, and at times last year, you know, when it's hard to maintain that routine throughout, throughout the whole camp or throughout the whole year, but this year, it's easier to maintain that because I know what to expect. I know the requirements of me, and I know that the team is kind of... Were there guys and last year's from that influence, do you show up a little bit early? Yeah, for sure. I mean, everyone is required. BIA, our standard is so high that we challenge everyone. It doesn't matter if you're going to play this year, it doesn't matter if you're going to play two years from now, it doesn't matter if you're a true freshman. You're going to come in early and we're going to put in the work just like everybody else because it's not just the starters that are held to the standard as everybody. It seems like Jaylen McLean, on kind of a similar trajectory as you were last year, where he's pushing for playing time right away. What have you seen from Jaylen and that's interesting?

12:15He's all over the field, man. I mean, he runs to the ball every play. He hits hard, you know, he's making plays on the ball. So, I mean, he has, like I said before, he has a lot of potential and I'm excited to see what he does this year. You talked about getting bigger and bigger, but you came from 25 last year. Yeah. Were you able to keep that weight on? Was it the type of candy that you were going to play? So, I mean, through the season, it kind of fluctuated, but right now, I've gained even more weight, so I'm at like 195 now. The plan is to get to 200, but it definitely builds confidence when you got to go down there and feel like that. Yeah, I'm actually even playing close to the ball. Exactly. Yeah. You were obviously on the wrong end of a play in that Michigan game last year. Just what did you learn from that? I think that coach preaches competitive excellence and that means putting yourself in position to make the play and that means practicing harder, that means taking each rep like it's that big moment in the game and that's definitely

13:16what I try to do this year. You want to get better and then if you're struggling with some areas, you got to figure out why. How was some of the guys who transferred in? How were they fitting in? Man, they're awesome. I can't talk about, speak about them on a good note as well. Ethan's amazing. He's done such a good job being able to learn the playbook and stuff because it's obviously hard here. It's an NFL style offense. It's a lot to learn and goes into playing the positions we play and I think Phil is also similar as well. He's doing an amazing job as well. So it's been awesome and you know, the young guys are coming along as well. Jake Cook is truly surprised with me. He's balling right now and he's doing really well. Carter's getting there as well. He's doing great and then obviously though as well. They're all just good people that need to be in our little offensive meeting room. You know what I mean? It's a good crew that we have going on right now. Obviously last year is last year. It's a new year and you know, not unless it earned anything. So we got to go and get it again.

14:16If we've been like to transition to being coach by Tyler. He's awesome. Coach Boatlin, he's amazing. Talk about him and obviously coach Johnson and coach Dickey and then obviously awesome coach, awesome field. Obviously having four guys is amazing because you know, it's almost like you have four offensive line coaches. You guys have to end of the day like you have five people on the line every time and for one guy to be able to watch every play and in and out of the hood on stuff like that, that's hard to do. Like you're never going to be able to just like look at all five and get your treat, get your treat. Treat them and stuff like that. And it's just good having all four of them here because obviously like there's a set of eyes on one or two guys every time from each guy or they're able to put you. Yes, everybody knows everybody new last year. Yeah, there's a defensive line right now on the interior that's giving you. You guys a little bit of trouble. Yeah, I mean, look, Edrick, Edrick and Kayne had a good run. Let me grind them. They got a step up just like some of us have a step up. They did a tremendous job and done a great job.

15:17I think the guys behind them are doing a tremendous job as well. I think it was, he's right there. He's grinding and stuff like that. And it's been good so far. And they're getting better every day and you can totally see it. They're getting some more fitting with coach Patricia's defensive scheme and stuff like that. It's been pretty cool to watch. Look, see how much you've done with your status and life. Whenever it's changed from this time of year ago, you never need to go. Yeah. What's the test? I'm just thinking really is not getting the first hit. Yeah. Because I think it's obviously the best. Yeah. You're also an MVP. That's for me. I'm a big believer in the Lord and just trusting in his mind and leading on him and leading on his understanding instead of mine. You know, I grew up in a faith-based household and I just leaned on him for a lot of times. And that's what's all about. It's a process here as much as you want to say something different. Like, you know how I say, you're a time problem, the majority of the people that are free. It's like, Jay-J, like, it takes time. You're good, but like, it takes time for you to play with the guys. And you have to take me, get them off the screen. And everyone's time is different.

16:18And that's what I've learned here. You've got to enjoy the process because it's your story, not anyone else's. And it's going to be different. Look, how much time are you spending at center? How's that split between center and guard? You've looked at build-up pushability? Yeah. I think, obviously, just what coach Dave said, just the narrowing down of the roster and stuff like that. And obviously, last year, what happened, you know, like, we had, obviously, Seth and Josh go down and a lot of us have stepped up in different ways. And Carson's going around the Garmin Center. I mean, like, we're all switch swapping. We're all switch swapping and cross training because we got to do that, you know. Like, we got to be able to go play different positions. We want to play in that NFL. Coach always tells us there's only guys that travel. So, like, everyone's got to know a different position because someone's going to go down. And someone's got to be ready to go to that position. What's your comfortable area at center? What do you say? How comfortable are you at center? I'm comfortable. Yeah. I mean, I play a little bit of a Brian and I'm at family high school. And, you know, I learned a lot from Coach Kelly last year. With his NFL stuff, I think, because he's obviously coached a line of stuff with the centers and coach fries low. And I'm just, I'm getting more comfortable because last year I was doing a lot of season cues and stuff like that

17:22for practice with starts. So, it's good. Look, are you asking about Ethan? Yeah. I don't know about Ethan. Oh, okay. Is your primary position left, Barbara? Yeah, just switching around, honestly, right now. Hey, look, one last question. One last question. After the streets paid through today. You and Tag Room. You know, that was a testament to it. Yeah, you're right. You're talking about Texas. Yeah, the execution was that way. Also, I think we got made a couple of things. No doubt. What was it like to make hard things that have been in the midst of it? Yeah. I want to perfectly block playoff with myself. I'll give you this story, this background. So, last year we ran a lot, a lot of periods with streets and stuff like that. And we never really want to run in the games. So, we were always like, toss it out. Like, come on. Like, what are we doing? Like, just, we never run this playcoach. Because what are we doing and stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, we always joke about it. Like, it was the perfect play to the perfect look. And, you know, I'm not sure how much time was on the clock.

18:23It was like 14 seconds or something like that. So, we were getting out there and I'll be lying to you if I said, like, oh, this is just, here we go. Like, we're just going to run a clock out with this play. Yeah. And it was the perfect look, you know, it was the perfect play to the perfect look. And, you know, obviously with all the scheming and stuff we do, and obviously running to the plays day and day out during that time. And what we do now, like, it works because, you know, we were ready for it. And you got to be ready for it. And, you know, sometimes coach always talks about, just, you know, like, when we walk through, we might only walk through play one time before we play the game. But, like, I'm not sure I also do that. And they got to be ready for that. And ready for that certain look that possible to show up. And that's what happened. And we ran it perfectly. And that's just a testament to the coaches continue to stick with it. And that's continue to stick with it. Haha. Geez, Elise. You're going to be a big boy to be able to beat you guys. Proving that you were the best defense on the field today. Was that a big rallying cry for your group coming in? I don't know. We have a confident group. I was so we knew they were top defense.

19:25We don't do a lot of talking. We just like to go out in the field and play and have fun. And I feel like we did that today. Yeah. Yeah. Impact, what do you guys do? I don't know if you could do that. It's huge to be able to rotate, to be able to be fresh. I mean, there wasn't even that many plays in the first half. Even I think it was the third quarter wasn't a lot of plays either. But when you do have that rotation up front and in the back. And it just anybody can make a play on this defense. And everybody is training and preparing like they're the starter. And that's why you see so many guys out there making plays. Anything else? You draw right after the charges of scoring their first one on your first half? Yeah, it was huge. I think the offense, we did a great job responding. And we knew what kind of game it was going to be. So I'm just proud of the guys out there for responding like we did. Especially after this quarter that first touchdown, like you said, and going down and putting a draw together. So it was good. On that touchdown to Calvin, what were you looking for there? Can you talk about what happened and just of course how big that play was?

20:27Yeah, I mean, of course, huge play. They were just in zone. A quarter, and you really just, you know, high low on that hook defender. The hook defender took GP underneath and Calvin was right behind him. So a great play call in that situation. Of course, you always appreciate the yack, the yards out of the catch that Calvin got us. And of course, it was a huge play for us. A bigger picture. Can you speak to what Calvin and Scotty Miller brought to the offense? Yeah, I mean, those guys definitely stepped up today. You know, Calvin doing everything on offense and special teams as well. And then, you know, Scotty too. You know, he didn't, I want to be played last week. So I'm just coming in. He had a big third down conversion for us, broken tackle with some yards. So they both played great today. So you guys threw some exotic, they were in the first of exotic blitzes that you guys. And you guys were prepared for some of those strikes over the middle. You had the third down conversion and the touchdown. How does it feel to execute something like you guys playing it outside and you got that. It feels big place. Yeah, it feels great executing. You know, we were preparing for it all week on, you know, certain looks. We would get in certain situations and, you know, like you said, we did a great job executing it aligned to the great job today and, you know, holding up and receivers.

21:31Just being at the right time at the right place. Yeah. Didn't we hear it all week that the Dan was about to break on the offense? You guys stop short of scoring that front shot. But is this what it looks like when that Dan is in the process of breaking? Yeah, it is. And I think we scored one more touchdown if I didn't throw that out of the interception. So like we say, we're just going to keep working and keep getting better and keep improving. What did you see on that in the center? Yeah, he just smashed the stick right way too fast. And, you know, I just shouldn't throw on the ball, you know, got to it. But at the end of the day, either should have worked the other side of the field throwing it to the flat, because they were so soft or, you know, just throw the ball away, especially when we were already, you know, in field go range at the 40 yard line. That can't happen. That can't happen against us. Do you feel like you're improving your detractors' roughs, tractor from Chicago days? I'm not really worried about that. I'm more so into improving, you know, myself, you know, right. I know, you know, what kind of player I am. You know, I haven't changed kind of my whole life. So at the end of the day, my teammates helped me be great. So shout out to them, shout out to our defense, shout out to everybody else in the offense

22:34for pushing me each and every day at practice. And, you know, it's just a credit to them. So I'm definitely, you know, glad and just feeling good to be in this position to be honest with you. Yeah. You talked about improving your three last drives, where it went after the field a little longer, if you touched down the front of the clock out. What do you feel like you improved on as this game went on? And how did you make some adjustments to kind of strongly? Yeah. The first half, we didn't run the ball like we wanted to. So, you know, second half, especially late in the game, when we had to run the ball, they were running back and they all wanted a great job. Even in situations where we knew we had to run the ball, they did a great job executing knives and CP. They were hitting the whole great. And, you know, we were getting first downs, up the first downs. So any time you can get that run game going, you know, it just helps us out overall. Good, does it feel for the offense to put together a performance like this against such a good defense like the Chargers? Yeah, it feels great. We kind of knew what we were up against, two great edge rushers. And I think they were number one defense in the NFL coming into this thing. So we knew we had a big test in front of us, but, you know, we have a pretty good defense that we go up against every day as well.

23:37So just going up against those guys on the other side of the ball on our team, just kind of prepared us for this moment. And like I said, everybody came out executed and we put points up on the board. So it felt great. Also, you know, do those lines drives make you more confident in the sense that, along with their defense, they'll feel you could open up some more pathways to run as well as play action? Yeah, not for sure. You know, anytime you can stand the field as long as possible, definitely tires them out. I think the second quarter, maybe before the two-minute warning, they were glad that we actually didn't run a play because, you know, they were so tired. A linebacker kind of made a joke over to us. It was like, appreciate you all because they were so tired. But anytime you can, you know, keep their defense on the field for a long time with their run game and with the play action pass, like you said, and have our defense on the sideline resting. That's a positive for sure. Just this is the first time in your career that you won three consecutive games in the NFL. What does that mean to you? And what kind of momentum do you feel like you have through the first three weeks of the season? It means a lot, but at the end of the day, it's not just me winning games. It's the whole team.

24:38So I'm just happy to be a part of this team, happy to be a part of this organization, and we definitely look forward to keeping it going next week versus Indy. What's the big job, for you to get, do you feel yourself getting more comfortable or confident within the system? For sure. You know, I think I've just grown a lot over the past few months, really just this year. So definitely feeling more confident and comfortable out there on the field. Somebody guys were saying they read a confidence in you in the second half that you were going to win the game and they fed off that. What made you confident in the same? I think we kind of knew. We knew, like I said, we knew what kind of game we were going to be in. And we knew that we didn't play well enough in the first half. We had a couple of miscues in the first half and we knew we were better than that. So like I told the reporter out there, coach, teach challenges at halftime to play better and be better. And we came out second half and I did just that. So good. Justin, you said you've done a lot of growing over the last year and a half, where do you feel like you've grown the most or shown the most grow?

25:42Just overall, seeing the field, I feel like I'm just very calm out there, cool, calm and collected on the field and really just that sense of peace out there on the field and not really rushing things internally in my brain. Just staying calm in the pocket and just making plays when I can and just doing my job. He's a brother of Jones, a stepping out there. Of course, he was benched last week and this week he comes out with like he was a big part of the offensive line having a good day. He was part of the offensive. A nice situation pops up. He's not really thinking all week that he's going to play and then Troy goes down Friday. It just shows how prepared he was. He prepared all week like he was starter and I definitely showed a big for us, especially with this defense that we faced showed up. Big shot out of 7-7 for sure. This is the second time you've had 20 close completions in like your last eight games. Do you feel that almost like you're running back in your duchess that you're playing all week and going you start the final round?

26:44Not for sure. Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is getting the police on first, second down and I'm staying in that third advantage. I think that's the biggest thing in second shots when they come. Any time you can get in the rhythm as a quarterback, you just feel that confidence overflow. Like I said earlier, you just feel very calm in the pocket. I think you completed maybe first ten passes. Does that help you get in the rhythm? Does that help you down later in the game? I think so. But our game plan was kind of, we knew they were going to give us completions on first and second down, kind of keep us show over the top. They don't really want big plays so they kind of play off and soft. So we knew completions were going to be there on the first and second down. So I really want a big surprise, just pitching catch with the guys and making great plays and running after catch. We asked if there's a ball start in the home opener and just hold me here for some impressions of playing here in Pittsburgh and this crowd. Yeah, I mean, it was definitely a little bit different from preseason for sure, but the fans showed out great turnout.

27:47It was awesome. It was definitely getting out out there, especially when the defense was on the field. So great turnout by Cilla Nation for sure. What's the success of the run game? Who is your thoughts on Cordell Patterson's contribution? He's huge, man. I'm just seeing some of those things. I'm handing the ball off and just watching him go. I mean, I know I can't do that. So the fact that he's been the lead for this long is still doing that. I mean, it's really crazy to see it to be honest. He definitely did his thing here for sure. Does he had two very pinpoint passes one Friday with my drop in the Calvin? Is that accuracy? Something that you've gotten better at? I mean, they were pretty flawless throws right there. I think I've always been kind of accurate, but I might be a little bit biased, but yeah, I mean, just those situations, like Jackie said, I'm just trying to get in good field position for the two minutes, but I mean, yeah, definitely, definitely need accuracy at this level for sure. Anyone else? Thank you guys. I appreciate your help. Thank you. Any for the outspirer?

28:47And so hard. And ever our tight ends, our receivers, I mean, it was just, it was a whole after man. That was a great job by the entire team. Does it make life easier when you come out of the gate running the football like crazy? Like the first quarter was like nuts? Yeah. And when you get a quarter like that up on the walls, it makes the rest of the game really easier. I think so, man. I think it gave everyone confidence right away, which was important. I think that was important for Malik and important for all of us. I'm important for everyone. So, I mean, it was huge and it felt amazing. That was fun. How did you, I mean, what were your impressions of Malik like in the huddle and how he was handling the whole... I couldn't believe how calm he was in there, man. His play calling was super clear. He wasn't stressed out. Like you could tell, he was very under control, had his wits about him, did a great job. There was no issues on that whatsoever, which is unbelievable. Like that's amazing. You know, his quarterback rating ended up to be like 126 plus his first 100 yard game.

29:49That kind of spurs up the confidence of a guy. I mean, it's got to, you know, our front office and everyone, I mean, we brought him here for a reason. Obviously, he can throw that rock around. Then boy, he showed it today. Yeah, everyone's got all the confidence in the world and that was fun. Just in general, it's probably our bread and butter and Detroit and glad it's the bread and butter over here. So, you know, this is not going to be too hard of a transition and things like that are right up my alley. And then finally, Matthew Stafford, I know you had familiarity with him. You're a rookie year. But watching from afar, what he was able to do in LA and we saw him kind of get back to help being healthy last year. As someone who is going to be protecting him, how do you describe him? How would you describe what he's good at and what you need to protect him? I mean, he's in Detroit. We caught him the wizard. You know, he can figure it all out.

30:50I mean, he can make anything happen. And, you know, I'm excited to be able to protect him and, you know, let him make us look good and make plays happen. Thanks, Jonah. Congratulations. Thank you. Adam. Hey, Jonah. Adam, we want to congratulate you. Congratulations. Thanks, Adam. Appreciate it. Yeah. I'm curious, kind of look, the process looks like, you know, you agree. It turns out two hours into a pre-agency. What do those two hours look like? Who are you talking to? You talked to anyone at the range personally. Like, just what do those hours look like for you? Actually, me and my wife, we were just sitting at home and like the, I guess, 12 o'clock hit. And we were like, we thought it was going to be like immediate, you know, mayhem and kind of sat there for like 45 minutes of my age and was calling me. It was like, what do you think of Los Angeles? And I was like, on Sound2Shabby. And we talked about it. And, you know, this sounded like the right move, good weather, good place to be, good winning culture, great staff.

31:54And, you know, just everything overall was just a plus. So we couldn't deny that. I know this kind of nature of business. What is it like, loaded, make a decision like that? Or such a like altering decision? Like that? I'm so sure of this. Yeah, I mean, it is, it is pretty crazy, you know, just the amount of time you have. But, you know, you kind of have a, I've been on the outside looking in at this place for a while. So I kind of had a general idea of what's going on and a lot of familiarity within our building, like, Brad Holmes, you know, he was from here. So I kind of got to feel the people that, you know, they they've been around and how they run things. So I kind of got a good feel about how it be here. Thank you. Thank you. Stu. They showed us Stu Jackson from the Rams. I can't be the one you meant. My fellow Jackson brother. What's up, man? What's up? Listen, you spend most of your football career, whether the college or obviously the NFL now in the Midwest or East Coast.

33:01So now that you're here, what's the light just being out here and being in Southern California now? I will say the weather is beautiful, you know, it's excellent. Definitely going to miss the East Coast. You know, I've got a lot of roots there in the Midwest. You know, I've started a lot there, but not like new beginnings and no better place to be here. And I guess what did you notice about just this offense from afar? I know Jordan asked you about some of the specifics with schematic carryover, but, you know, beyond that beyond Matthew Stafford, what it would appeal to you about being a part of this offense and being a part of this team beyond those things. I mean, a lot of similarities on what we do, you know, the gap scheme, play action and, you know, having to drop back, you know, I'm comfortable in whatever we've had. I've had eight. This would be, I think nine now, nine different offense, a coordinator since I started college. So I'm comfortable in whatever it doesn't really matter. But, like I said, the pieces to the puzzle were, you know, incredible, whether it's the wire receivers, they're running back the QB, the O-line, the defense, you know.

34:04It's a pretty good team over here. So I'm excited to be a part of it. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Gary. Hi, Jonah. Gary Klein from the last time. Sarah, thank you, Gary. I'm curious to think what was it like to be part of, you know, a lion, a human organism, a human being that is doing that. I mean, it's like, you know, it's like a animal, it's like a bird. Last season. And what, if anything, are your memories playing against the ramp, is that wild part game? Yeah, you know, being a part of something, you know, and the trick were for so long the city was dying for a winner and being able to bring it there and, you know, everything and bring some light to the situation. It was awesome and there's nothing like it. But you know when you face the LA Rams, you know, they got a special defense and you know up front, they got the guys, you know, so being able to be on their team now makes it a lot easier.

35:10What's your name? I'm Robert, but you agree. Hey Jonah, great to meet you with the AP. Congratulations. Thank you sir. Appreciate it. Yeah. In free agency, how did you weigh the opportunities in terms of second contract really important? I mean that's your money. You got to take care of that. But you also talked about how you wanted to be in a winning culture. You wanted to be able to be able to be able to succeed with a team, with a culture. How did you weigh those things and how grateful were you that an opportunity like this arose with the team within established winning culture with all this kind of stuff? I mean, yeah, once I heard the Rams were willing to, you know, do what they did and be able to go somewhere and potentially win it all. I mean, there was no denying it. There was some team, you know, maybe we could have done some more, but I wanted the perfect balance of being able to, you know, set my family up for life and be able to win football games. You mentioned that the Rams have like, you know, they have a good reputation and what is that reputation that other players on other teams, you know, they don't have a direct connection with the Rams. Think about the Rams. What is that? What is that vibe? I mean, you just see it from the outside. You see that the quarterback and man, he's second and none.

36:15And, you know, just all, like I said, the pieces to the puzzle are just incredible. And then you see Coach McVeigh and how they run things and, you know, it's a, it's an approachable, approachable place you feel and you feel like it's somewhere you can get settled and pretty fast. And that's why I felt like it was a good fit for me. I think I said I had a nerve and different things going down my leg and it was some of the worst pain I've ever dealt with. It was not a fun. I mean, it hasn't been fun. This week, last two weeks, it really been the first couple of weeks that I've really been improving and feeling better. You know, those first few days were really tough and, you know, it's been testing my mentality and, you know, been testing everything because it's hard to deal with pain, especially how these last few years went and how good I was feeling and coming back

37:19from the hand and having, having this adversity that I've overcome and then just getting hit with this random thing. I mean, of course, it's not random. Everything happens. Nothing just happens for no reason, but, yeah, it's the main thing was it was a glute strain and it just was a lot of doctors were unsure because the pathology and the pain kind of, it wasn't really matching up, but I had some good conversations with some other doctors recently that kind of assured me that that's the only thing that's going on. I had a million scans kind of see if there was anything else going on, everything's clean, which overall is a good thing, but, you know, you're kind of hoping, like, man, I wish they would just find something so we can work on it and get it better, but, yeah, I think I'm finally over the hump. It's definitely not 100%, but I've played feeling worse

38:24before. Were you in pain just sitting watching television? The first few days, first week was just brutal, no sleep. Couldn't sit. I still have the medicine ball at my, or the exercise ball, the house that I stole from here because that was my only safe place was laying on the medicine ball and, like, that fetal type position because, I mean, that first day after the flight back was insane. I was laying in the training room for probably six hours on that ball. Couldn't move, I'll try to get up and do some treatment and no position work. Still, I can't really sleep. It's, well, this week has been better, but I still, I'm a back sleeper and I can't really really sleep on my back with the glute, but I've finally been getting good sleep, feel just comfortable moving around, feel much better out there, starting to feel more even on both

39:29my legs. I was able to, luckily I was able to, you know, stay on my feet, stay on top of my upper body lifting so I feel strong, my weight's good, my, my legs are coming back, so it was, it was tough and, you know, I think, you know, the adversity I've dealt with over the years has only made me stronger and has helped me learn more about myself and kind of the things I need to do to be successful, you know, at this age, I'm not a fresh, young rookie anymore that can get away with doing some things that I could, could back then, so, you know, I kind of definitely hit a low point dealing with this, but, you know, it's made me stronger mentally. I've been doing all the work I can with, with all the tools I have and the people around me,

40:32to not only help physically, but, but help mentally and I think when I look back at this moment, you know, when you're in it, it feels hopeless sometimes and you're like, man, I don't want to do this, I listen to that, but I think I'll look back at this point and, you know, all these injuries that I've dealt over over the last three years and I think it'll be, maybe not a blessing in disguise, but, you know, an important part in my in my journey and my career that, you know, helps me take those few extra steps of things that maybe I wasn't doing before because I didn't have to, but this kind of has pushed me to, you know, be the best person I possibly can, not only physically, but mentally and like I said, I've learned a lot about myself and what I need now and, you know,

41:39I'm just grateful that I have a great, great team around me, my family, my trainer, everybody here, my therapist, Roger, shout out, he's the man, he's helped me, you know, through a lot of tough times in my career and I don't think, I don't, I know for a fact that I would not be standing here or be as successful as I am without all these people around me, so I just want to, you know, thank everybody, including my teammates for, you know, having my back and not pushing me and just being there for me and knowing that I'm doing, doing the things I can to try to get back and be the best teammate I can and I think, you know, I don't have much time left in this game, you never, and dealing with stuff like this makes you realize that it can be over at any moment and I just don't want to take anything

42:39for granted and I don't want to look back and be like, should have cut a wood, so I think I have, I have a few years, maybe hopefully, hopefully a few good years left and I just want to do everything I possibly can to take advantage of my opportunity. Yeah, no, I mean, your mind just tends to ruminate and go to the future, go to the past, so what if I did this, what if I did that and when you get into that state, it's just important to kind of reel it in and take it, maybe not even a day at a time, but a minute at a time, an hour at a time and I know it's pretty trendy to talk about being mindful and then staying in the moment, but there's a reason it's popular because it's really important and, you know, when you're down in your upset, you're not going to be thinking rationally and making the correct decisions, so just

43:44be able to reel it in and be mindful and take it one day, one minute at a time, it kind of puts things into perspective and if you do the right thing, one thing at a time, eventually you're going to get to, you know, where you want to be. When the injury happened, it was on that first play and it's burning. Yeah, no, I was not feeling great going into that game. I think that was the start of it after the Carolina game and then that very first play my left leg gave out and I just got absolutely planted in the ground which I'm sure you're all of you, so I must have maybe strained it worse than or something, but I knew I wasn't able to finish that game and I definitely didn't expect it to be as bad as it has been. Even when I was in a lot of pain the first few days, I'm like, all right,

44:44structurally there's not anything that's too crazy going on right now, so maybe in a few days this will calm down and it'll feel much better and then it just kept dragging and dragging and dragging and, you know, here we are for five weeks later or however long it's been so it was, it was tough and you know everybody's dealing with injuries, everybody's dealing with something, like sore warming up and like who's not sore warming up right now this point of the year even after just week one it's a tough league and a tough game and yeah I'm just happy that I stayed the course and I'm starting to, you know, see the other side. So you came out of the Carolina game feeling something in the league? Yeah, I came out of the game feeling good, like the actually, like right after the game I was like man felt good, got limited reps, was really hopeful for the next week and

45:46you know those next few days just felt weird, felt like there's something going on, didn't really think that it was the day after the game and I didn't really think it was going to be any any problem, you know I lifted it as normal, I felt good, I didn't practice like super hard that week I wasn't feeling amazing but I definitely didn't see this coming and you know I went into that Steelers game with not a lot of confidence so I was really nervous I'm sure if you watch me run out of them in the field usually I'm flying off trying to be the first one out there and I was like this might not go well today but I thought I'd give it a shot and I figured out pretty quickly that it wasn't going to go well after that first play. But yeah like I said I'm just happy that I I didn't let those you know dark thoughts or dark times kind of get pulled at me and keep me down because I mean it's bad as football gets it's I mean it's the greatest thing that I've ever been

46:56a part of or ever ever done it's the best that the only thing I've ever been you know great at and I just want to take advantage of my time here and it's running out and it's running out for everybody and time doesn't just doesn't stop just keeps freaking moving no matter what you do and yeah like I said I just want to look back and be like man I'm I'm happy that I did everything I could to you know make an impact and and you know be the best player I can be. I think whoever's in the room we just gotta keep up keep that stand. The Texas game was a good game I liked that we put that game out but obviously the match from championship just when the clock hit triple zero you just feel like a champion so I did a national championship but the Texas game with my favorite game. I just that experience that it feels like my junior high school

48:01where my senior high school where my state championship my junior and I just I just remember to fill them just wanting to win it so bad again and we to the end of coming up short so I think you just stand on the guys and just stand on myself to do everything we can and just go back to back and it's gonna be very hard and we know that so I think you just got to support. What is it all about like champions? You know obviously climbing down down down. Yeah just the bulls iron back and I didn't really too much effort. You gotta go BS be the back guys for every reason so I think when we go out there and BS there's just really won't be any problems. There was some talk from the leaders about taking down the couple of banners and not wanting this year's team to think that they're champions kind of building back up in there. Why is it important to do that kind of not allow last year to affect your because most of the team didn't win anything like the freshman class they wasn't on the team last year they don't have a national championship and most of the guys are like I wasn't a starter last year so I want to start I want to want to be a bigger regional while we're in the national championship so I think most of the guys that we have on the team this year we really wasn't champions like you

49:02too much do anything is most of the seniors that gone so I think it's just on our own like you really just want something for our own. Which receivers are we not talking about enough that you're out there covering who should we who should we be talking about more and why. I like I like Karniotape I like yeah I've been seeing a lot of minor ground I like minor ground a lot what's next to you just smooth just very smooth it's a good play it's a great man it's very nice to know the way as well we all know that you're in the game. It seems like every time we're out here you're one of the guys you're always celebrating plays you're always bringing a lot of energy like do you how much do you do better the big part of who you are just bringing it in I think I just I think a lot of guys can feed off of my energy so I just try to give my zongi I can and just encourage out of the other guys and encourage even some of the other guys that's here and probably doesn't have as much experience on the field so I think it's just giving people the confidence I think confidence is the most important thing about this game if the confidence is where it needs to be and you feel confident to do your job can do we can't go as well. I kind of got thrown out there for a fire as a freshman in some big

50:05moments what do you think it's gonna be ready to play as a freshman. Hey Phillip! I think just taking every day coaches are telling me there's always stay ready I think just taking every day just like but you're gonna be out there and just prepare that you never know when that play is gonna come and you know like Texas game I played the whole second half you gotta be ready for that if you just sitting in the center of the sign on a cliff that you're not gonna play and think that I'm not gonna get in this and that get tough for you and then that's when you just your mind start playing tricks so I think just being prepared and staying ready at all times. I think having this his hand on the rail as a freshman I think he looks better than me even and I can't man in the spring so I think that was gonna be a very good football player here you just has to just come on with the little things but that was gonna be a great football player. I just did I think I was a little more raw as a prospect just coming out I think he's more put together he's a big refrain you know I think he just he has a little bit like I don't know

51:05I was playing but he just I like it's not really I mean it's a long season ahead of us so I mean I'm just no taking the day by day you don't see many true freshmen make that the game for you play it in national championship game what's the key for you stay hungry you know to continue to grow with the makers. I mean no just so to name it I mean just because I made that one play I have that sure um year after that no just can't get big headed um I always feel like it's one for improvement never feel like you um just got it that's one thing a lot of people mess up one feel like already have one good year okay I mean that's not any me I'm a no continue to do it for years and years to come I feel like to myself for sure. What do you know about this important? Well because you party no big Taurus you just like me um no just came and kept it set now just working um my happy to see this future here at Ohio State probably gonna be you know next one for sure. What's it like seeing all these like the national championship banner and seeing all the new signage knowing you played a huge role. I mean it's no it's a blessing no

52:07the self-play no a role and no the nadi run that we had as a true freshman um but no it's time to move on I mean as behind us now and I can't wait for this season to come up. What kind of obligation do you feel to a guy like what to kind of take on your way and show him how you work. Well I feel like he already got that uh just coming in he already got that hard work at it um quiet just like me as I came in just all about ball really I mean he ain't here early um mean spend the time on coach hardline meeting and everything he going in the right way I should say and he have a bright future here. Coach hardline said he wants you to come up with a good game yeah yeah how much for a challenge that you are kind of a quiet guy. Yeah it was a challenge uh no just no stepping on my comfort zone um mean something everybody wanted to see for me not just my coaches but players on the team as well we have a uh leadership meeting there's a lot a lot of people call me out on just saying they want me to talk more um working on it uh takes time um not really the guy that's talk talkative or no but lay by example but one thing that's I'm definitely

53:11working on it's trying to know talk more get more my comfort zone and just build you. Yeah for sure that's definitely the biggest challenge um you know like I said just step my comfort zone you know leading the guys and leading the younger guys as well. You guys open with Texas next year I've going back to the playoff game do you think about that moving forward just kind of how you were taking out of that game. Oh yeah I think not really think about it that's behind me um maybe one of the game we ended up going to the national championship uh I mean we see it on week one I just know can't wait to no face a great opponent. What's your impression of Devin Sanchez so far? Yeah big long corner of the Corrine um physical um he got it all and I can't wait to see things he do here this year um as well. Well if you know it's different is there anything different about his defense of the you know these first three weeks of spring that's a culture ride. Oh they just passed physical and wouldn't have hit somebody I should say saying they got the really changed for me. Oh guys still got no do they've been doing over the last

54:12year and a half and so in the year and half as I should say. Coach that makes the quarterback alive like he did for a couple of practices last week. As a live receiver right now. How do you think your quarterback responded to that? Over all three. I think they responded pretty good. I did not expect the quarterback to be alive um in a scrimmage um that surprised me for sure. Coach Devin surprised me with that um but I feel like they handled it very well they took hits um something we need they needed I should say you know tough him up and go go. Right. Why do you see there's a goal line about quarterback seeing how they handle that since it's obviously not a norm to be that. Uh learning anything now but it's definitely not known to see a quarterback get hit it gets his no defense I should say um but no guys they was they was getting hit for sure but they was getting right back up so command to uh who those of them for that. How much do you work questions? Definitely can't get better no no feel like I'm getting complacent um always going for improvement and no I'm just taking a day by day and no just getting better each

55:16day. Why do you prepare for the scrutiny and the expectations you're going to get on in X2 seasons here uh off the season you just had. Uh not really focused on the espacation that I have coming up or the year after that um no just focus on spring spring and you know just going into the uh fall count and now just get ready for the season I should say the espacations go be there not really know something high no in my mind right now I'm just no being leader and they're just focusing on the team. I really know we haven't really spoken about that right now um I don't really know. Once I asked the squad. Jeremy a lot of guys have said that they want a lot of championship got taken down they don't want to see it is moving into this year to me team. What is how important is that for you and why do you think that's significant for this team? I mean like I said we came live in the past um the club in the 2014 they won the national championship

56:17this year we did it so I mean we just took everything down in the weight room and everything so no we could focus on being ourselves and no this our season. We had the opportunity to win multiple times and for us not to you know get it down the sucks man honestly how much are you looking to into this loss and the frustration and try to move forward because you've got to buy weak and then try to turn the season around what's that balancing? Yeah I mean it's tough but you know we got to move forward you know I mean that's all we can do um for you know what is our problem um which you know I don't think it's hard to see and which is you know just executing you know and hone down on our assignments and um you know just get the job done and uh so out of it you know we got to buy a week you know rest up and get ready for San Fran. Yeah a couple of tough plays uh the red zone the fourth quarter that have to be an interception but you're able to mount the drive down the regulation.

57:18What is your confidence that you know that you would bounce back and be able to reach you the way that you did that final drive? Yeah total confidence I mean he's done it you know again again again honestly and uh you know every time we we go we take the field you know again the huddle um you know I know we're going to give our best effort you know I know if we give them time we run the right routes we know we're supposed to do he's going to put the ball where it's supposed to be and you know that's all we can you know do and uh but yeah we have total confidence when we go out there we just got to stop beating ourselves honestly. I don't have zero yards in a win but you just had a career day as well um I'm just wondering what you take from that it's high the loss man I hate losing you know I'm saying whatever I rather win you know 100 percent um you know my confidence level you know it's always been the same you know I've known that you know I could break out and have an amazing game you know whenever but um it's the wins that count. Can you kind of walk us through the last touch down there that tied the game before you

58:18haven't taken the big hit and everything? Uh yeah um you know corner out you know through a perfect ball had to put it really back shoulder for me you know to make a play on it um and you know just made a play on it um just about it. What about his kind so what do you have to catch you thinking about absorbing the hit of the second ball that? Uh yes sir um you know you know I make sure you know I see my surroundings you know you know some guys trying to take your head off um so you know yeah I do but I then at the end of the day when I see the ball it's about the ball and and catching it you know that's my job and you know I take I consider all those things but you know getting the job done is first. What about the the port then five they set that up what did you guys see on that play? Port and five salt man coverage you know I'm saying beat beat your man catchable. Yes guys on that team we knew they're gonna fight through ass off and uh it's a heavyweight balance and that's what championship that's what it's all about and we knew we're gonna have to take some shots and uh you know keep swinging. It's a perfect combination of that kind of story and that

59:22meeting you guys had with you guys really very seriously. To him to stand in front of you guys a whole team and you're vulnerable like that and to make changes what is it? I mean it just speaks to how great a coach he is I think a lot of coaches would have you know had a lot of selfie go going into that meeting and um he didn't at all um he loves us you know all of us like when his sons and if we felt that form you know that loss you know we knew that we had had a rebound like we did and um I mean I can't say enough like how much he means he has to have a rebound means to me. The way he goes about business and we don't we don't go about it like a lot of teams do about fear losing your job we go about as a family and it's about love and uh I know we had to execute and and we did that tonight. How happy are you for Coach Day? You know how close you are you as first to meet? It's a friendly build a healthy good friend. Yeah I mean it's a dream come true like I said I mean God is so great and during that you took a sound and uh it took Coach Day on this family on I mean and then I'll be curious like we did tonight and I'll say I mean it means everything to us and uh to see him have the success you know it makes me so happy. I know I saw the spawn was wipe out on our face

1:00:26and um stuff the sea over there is gonna be an ex-lumbus at the end of that guy in Clarence where it's terrible and uh to come out tonight and win this game for them it's awesome. Check the drop when we come and burn it. The championship for bust all that you expect against this team at um point you know we knew what the expectations were going to the season you know we knew that we're at a high estate and uh the job a hand every year as a non-compete for a national championship we're not doing our job so um you know what never a burden it was kind of motivating backers you know do what we're doing right now we just did and uh we'll leave a legacy who just left is is something that you know you can't put on the words how much it means so we never looked at this as an emergency but it was an opportunity and we did that just tonight. Jack you dropped your name and the opportunity to championship. When did you sense that? Well look we never know today was going to fight to the end but you know during the season it was during the season you felt that you think before the season we knew that we were capable of a national championship uh just because of the guys we had and the coaching staff we

1:01:27knew that we were capable of this and uh through all the ups and downs we were able to persevere and and keep fighting keep swinging coach day always says you gotta fight your way out of bad times and in life and and as a player as a coach as a family really for him you know he's got to fight himself out of bad times and he did just uh made the adjustments made the change that I had again made and now we're champions so like I said got us so good and and the journey brought us on was amazing. Jack I believe I was the last week to um send your debug guy obviously grew up in Pickerington when did you allow yourself to think about what this moment would be like and what it would mean for your legacy at Ohio State if you can get this done what did you allow yourself to think about that? Yeah I know I mean honestly I haven't still even thought about it you know I'm just so happy to be able to celebrate this in the school of guys it's not about me at all it's about this team and coach day and and the city of Columbus has uh been waiting for this for a long time for 10 years and uh now just I'm just so happy for this group of guys and the stuff that we went through and heard and to keep getting up and keep trying to practice and go as hard as we can and approach one of the positive attitude and trusting a God's plan and uh you know here we are a national champion and you can

1:02:29never take that away from us so just so happy that we will finish the job and thank you for your time. You can check now that it's on the stage at one point what were your thoughts right there Jack? Is it like you kind of dropped your knees at one point and uh we're giving some kind of thanks or whatever but what was going on there? Yeah I was just thinking God I was thinking God for all the ups and downs in my career and everyone else's career and then to end it this way is so special I mean yeah would you put your faith in God you know he says it's not going to be easy and it hasn't been easy for any of us and uh you know we kept trusting him and believing his plan and here we are national champions you know when I don't want to say all you guys didn't believe it but I'm sure you guys have here done a thing we get the job then after we can November so um here we are national champs it i feel it's great to say who brought those regards to who brought this to God's heart and I think they did just that and I think for us we just had to go out there and just accomplish the the plan and whatever play was called whatever maybe just go out there and execute it

1:03:32one thing we've been preaching is execution is really the motive you know anything may be called but as long as everybody's mindset is has one mentality which is uh just go get it and you know make sure there's no yard gain I think that that changes the the mindset of everybody on the silver bullet defense Did they feel like big changes to you all as they were ongoing or uh I mean at first like you know it was a tough loss so you know as they felt like everything was big but then when you kind of just take your time and look at everything and analyze everything it was just like man we just we just need to keep everything simple make everything and just just uh just about us and you know not like feel like we're um you know making everything about them it's you know we can dictate what they do and I think that was the mindset Did it make Letterman Girl? Yeah uh JT I know you get to watch a little bit of video of Caleb and uh Lathen and Jordan what stands out about that group from your from your vantage point Oh they're respected they're relentless man I mean Lathen uh Caleb and I mean everybody in that BIA

1:04:33core um yes they can cover but you know when it's time to you know stop the run they'll they'll come down 12 yards out however however they however far off the front line scribbles are coming you know though the nose in there and you know I respect them for that because you know there's gonna be times where we need them make them tackles and I mean they're displaying it this whole season yeah how critical are they in a game of this magnitude obviously everybody's critical but you're gonna mean that yeah sort of the last line of defense but sometimes the last line of defense is in the middle of it yeah um I mean they play a huge role I mean like you said it takes everybody uh from the front four it's like a check reaction the front four don't do their job then you know falls you know the back end so we off to work as a collective unit and I think there's a reason that there's 11 of us out there and you know it's crazy if one person is doing their job then you know something can go wrong but if we just all continue to stay uh communication with one another uh continue to just lay each other know we have each other's backs and just trust one another and man I think that that uh that performance is gonna be off the charts. So for the right hellian uh Stis WSWF? GT how would you describe the mentality of the defense right now getting this opportunity for a rematch in the world in?

1:05:36Yeah uh hungry and thankful I mean uh we know how the last last time when you know we uh we had a chip on our shoulder I mean we were riding high before that game and we took that loss and we came back how to make a couple changes but I think we understand what you know everything's that stake right now um you know uh just fighting to where another house stage jersey for next game that's what's on stake and just to be able to represent this uh this state and this uh this team I mean we understand what's uh what's on the line and you know we're just hungry and blessed that we get this opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl. Right behind your Adam King WBNS what do you remember most about walking off the field in Eugene? What was kind of going through your mind in that moment? I mean there was uh I don't think anybody imagined it, imagine us losing um you know I didn't that's for sure and I think after that it was uh kind of head deep but understanding that man we still there's still a lot of ball left to be played I mean you can let it sting for a little bit but you know if you let it carry over too long then you know there there it goes there goes your whole

1:06:40season by I think we did a great job of just understanding coming together in this room right here not being afraid to display or hold accountability for one another and you know as as that happened we came back regrouped and you know we're just just going right now um and and I'm just blessed for those specific moments you know losing I mean no one wants to lose but the the testimonies and the things are taught within those little situations speaks of all of them. What did you see from Kenyatta the last couple of weeks that was there like a push from him and did there be any conversations with him and he can seem like he's playing since he doesn't want to see it. Yeah I mean that's that's my boy he's in the R2X club too but um you know uh Kenyatta I mean every time his numbers call he goes out there and makes the most of it um no matter uh where where we are in the game when he goes out there he's just hungry he wants to go make plays and and you know

1:07:40we see it in practice so it's not surprising to us. Bill Rebino, it's a bonus this batch. Dylan gave us obviously very elusive and he's not very tall um how important it could be to just kind of stay in your past rush lanes and neglect a lot of balls and kind of make a difference that way. Yeah I think it just comes out being disciplined uh no one who you're playing against like you said Dylan he's uh he sure but he's very elusive I mean he can he is making throws I mean he get out the parking do everything um so I think for us we just have to discipline and just continue to just uh meet with Coach Jay, meet with uh Coach Knowles and understand how we can uh just eliminate that. One more question about you and Jack I mean your personality seems to be a little different you're more on the quiet side he's yeah how about you play together four years both five store guys kind of describe your relationship with him uh friendship with him and just kind of how you cop with each other. Man that's uh that's my brother like he said um we're different but very alike um I think outside I'm like you said he's louder I'm quiet but you know

1:08:44once we're on that field we're like the same person um we'll do anything for this team you know we'll die for our players and we'll give everything we got. Room together for four years correct? Yeah fall camps yeah sometimes go over there slip over there. So yeah. The neat one who's the messy one? Uh we have our share of days when we when I'm neat he's neat or you know we might both be messy but we do a good job. Yeah uh I probably say I would better cook the jack though Tony Gertman like I held uh when you're playing a team for the second time and that was almost a season to go by now. Yeah how much of uh are you at square one with with this scouting preparation or how much do you take from that game? How much do you avoid taking so that you don't have any preconceived notions of what you're going up against offense on the offensive line? I say it's it's pretty 50-50 I mean uh that game like you said it was it was a while ago but at the same time they elevated as a team so did we so we understand that they they had they made some changes for sure um you know there's team there's a certain density we can take back from that game but

1:09:49we also understand that um they went on a low run after that and we can see that they elevated as an offense so we just got to continue to watch those games dissect the other games and just continue to see um what stands out and what they changed from the for the past game. We got a couple calls on zoom that will wrap up with uh first we have Nick Hamilton from nightcast media Nick. I just wanted to ask you basically about the synergy of this defense and how you guys were able to not only celebrate the triumphs but get through the adversity be able to be this top-notch defense that you are in college football today. Uh here you need to question one more time. Yeah no problem I want to ask you about the synergy you are able to develop over course of the season obviously celebrating the triumphs but also getting through the adversities to where you go all all the top-notch defense that you all are today. Yeah I mean like you said that we went through a lot of trials the trials um but there's also there's a lot of things we can take away from all the

1:10:52wins and losses um and from those those wins we understood that hey we can be the best uh defense in the country and from those losses we understand that there's still um things that need to be fixed and I think when you take all that in at once um they comes out to the the common goal or the common talk which is you can there's always learning points everywhere and depending how we dissect those games or how we just continue to come as one and elevate um you know we continue to just um collect all those those learning points and just continue to grow from them. And one final question Joey Coffin Columbus dispatch. Joey? JT uh what have what have you guys done better and the especially in the Tennessee game and just lateness season you think about turning some of the the pressures that you've got on the quarterbacks and the sacks and getting at home in some of those situations. Yeah I think it was more just uh understanding the defense as a whole understanding everybody's job uh thing as the season went on we had to understand that you know we have to know what's going on the back

1:11:53can we have to know what's going on the the linebacker crew to understand uh what plays we have uh rumor-free to and I think once we understood that and got a better understanding of the of everybody's job I mean it it showed this play because you know everybody knows what each other's doing it's not like uh the linebacker know what they're doing uh and the corners and be I they know only their job I think we all know each other's job and we continue to ask each other questions on you know if they're listening how they can get to the quarterback and you know if I'm dropping yeah playing quarterbacks by I can ask Cody on how to open field tackle so you know we just we just kind of lean on each other's understanding because uh you know um like I said like Denzel knows how to play corner better than I know how to play corner so you know he has more more wisdom at that position than I do JT thank you very much thank you he's he continues to grow and to grow um like I mentioned again Jolani was another guy that not only tight end position but tight end or Ohio State um I mean playing out of Ohio State in general I mean that's a you know it's a high

1:12:55standard but then to play the position of tight end it's not easy and so I've seen um Jolani take big strides on and off the field um I think same with him I think he's just going to have to continue just to put those days in back to back to back and uh same for him he'll be able to look up one day and be excited for where he's at he's very talented he's very gifted um god has given him a lot of great abilities and I think um it's just his job to put into the work put in the work and he'll look up one day and he'll be excited about where he's at um yes yes I was really with Moeber Camp yeah I think when his his freshman year I was doing that a whole lot more um his freshman year I feel like every two seconds every time I turn around I'm trying to correct him and get him an alignment um but I mean man he's he's he's taking steps he's taking steps in the right direction and I'm proud to see his growth yes his freshman year too uh no he didn't drop me nuts but do you try him nuts? nope that's my guy

1:13:57do you will however president of experience to run the tide I have to do the Kansas State when you're out there do you feel that he's seasoning or feeling like he's throwing the football he's like he notices where you're at at all times yeah um I mean not particularly I feel like I trust that he's going to do his job um I feel like he knows his reads he's going to go through his reads and he's going to get the ball um to who he's supposed to get it to predicated on the play and the coverage that we're going against and um he's done you know he's done amazing things in the field this entire may even going back to spring he had a great summer and then um to see the kind of player that he's really growing into even this camp has been great and so I have to just trust and faith that he's gonna put the ball exactly where it needs to be all it's my job just to go finish the play did you go back and look to see how much like when will Howard transfer it over did you go why to check him out at Kansas State so much he's at the early tide? no I haven't it was been been sent it right yeah no I haven't really checked it out I know he was a great player I know he's somewhere in the NFL right now um but no I'm I'm focused right here um building camaraderie with him uh right here and putting up putting good things on tape will first walk in do you think he was

1:15:00a new tight end transfer? yeah he was big yeah I think he's lost like 20 pounds since he's been here that dude it's a big boy yeah what what what is his presence I mean how does it show up out there? yeah he's he does a great job man I think that's he's growing to be one of my great buddies sub-jolani he's growing to be one of my you know really really good buddies I'd say one thing of thing he doesn't really really good job of you know the ability to turn it off and turn it back on I think when we're off the field or having fun um you know he's one of my closest friends but then when we're on the field he's locked in and he's he's ready to roll and he's able to take the lead of offense if you could tell his line thermon one thing and we'll get him on the field more often this year what would it be? I don't know where do I start let's see um just keep doing what you're doing you're doing good things man yeah what what is showing out about him I guess in this camp yeah I mean I was in right there yeah no I was like I kind of mentioned earlier I'd say you know like I mentioned God has given him you know so many great abilities I'd say ultimately the ball is in his court to take full advantage of that and ultimately bring the best out of himself I think that's one of our missions as a culture is to fight to be the best versions of ourself so I

1:16:04think if he continues to do that um he's gonna be excited about where he's at do you like about this game? Everything I like the I like the mindset behind it um maybe not as much you know X's and O's is great but I love the the mindset that we have about our intentions running the ball we're not just running the ball um to be flashy where we want to we want to be downhill we want to have smash not play smash not football and just impose our will on teams that's kind of our mindset going into playing games um that's our mindset going into practice and ultimately we believe practicing that way is to how we're gonna do it on the field once in a while try to do that against this defense oh they bring it the defense brings it every single day it's a it's a constant ironing sharpening iron um another matter who's in ones twos guys are good guys are flying around they're playing fast they're playing violent um but we're off and we're gonna bring it did uh did chip telly i mean how did it become obvious to you that there was gonna be a little bit of a new approach to the running game mindset whatever you want to call it was it a big meeting or is it just y'all got out there in practice and hey

1:17:05things are different you know what i mean do you know how did it show up i guess no i mean i wouldn't say there was any catastrophic event i think there's there's a there's a mindset shift like we we want to run the ball we want to be the most physical uh fast team in america um running the football is you know it's pretty universal wherever you go every team's in a run counter everyone's gonna run zone everyone's gonna have you know it is what it is it's the mindset going into it how efficient are we gonna do what we do and i feel like i'm very excited about you know the mindset that we have going in and running the ball that we want to be tough we want to be physical and we want to impose our wills on the team that we put you know will at Ohio grand jet speed i did not know that you have to talk about that i'm not just asking about the headache i had no idea that that's hilarious he is fast for a big guy he is yeah he moves very well you're you're sitting here what blessed two weeks away from the start of what your last season right yep do you feel like this is the year i mean yeah where you contribute even more i mean just

1:18:06what's your mindset yeah i'd say my mindset is to ultimately be the best the absolute best teammate inversion in myself that i could possibly be this year i think if i put in my due diligence of studying film practicing hard and laying everything out there um i want to i have faith in the lord that he's gonna take care of everything else i don't i don't feel pressure of numbers or stats or things i need to put on tape i just know that my absolute best my greatest effort will be enough and whatever happens from there um it's working for my good yeah um i would say i've seen the lord working a lot of ways on this team and just bringing guys closer and it's good to have that common ground with different guys on the team um when things may be rocky on the field or things may be rocky in the classroom or you know in the film room whatever it may be to have that common ground that we understand that the lord um is working the things that we're going

1:19:08through for our good and that um that we can just continue to keep our eyes on him in the midst of rocky times where we're in the valleys all around the mountain top that we just keep our face from yep thank you do yep we're welcome christmas okay what do i do you i'm at the end of the day we gotta put him in zone for not doing that we're not doing our job so are you guys creating more explosive plays as an offense right i think uh you just stick with it um you know the explosive plays are going to come and now he's got to trust that and they'll be there for us for sure coach stands has been here for uh highs and lows over the many many years he's been with this program now what sort of his message to your group right now or when you're turning to him what what is he saying as far as how to get through this yeah so i think it's just really just

1:20:13coming and attacking every day as you would um regardless and uh you know staying staying even even through hardship and uh attacking attacking it the same way every day um that's really all you can do and uh you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you based on the way things are already we're setting up but then also the way um um chase him as soon as i was calling the game on Saturday it seemed like tight ends are gonna be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out and what what role do you think you guys are gonna have in trying to get this offense yeah i think we i think the role is always try to help the offense move the ball and whether they were called upon to do that in the past game or the run game we just got to step up and do our job at a high level and uh whatever you ask from us we just got to do it at high level and let the offense go you're some of leaders on the offense some of the leaders have to say Gus is a big leader i mean he's been doing it for a while and i and it's someone that everyone trust um is gonna do his job at a high level and um i think we have uh Hudson's a good leader too

1:21:17as well um obviously he's a quarterback so he takes on that leadership role and um i think we just have a good amount of leaders uh you know throughout the offense we were told George might be fairly close to getting back what would mean to get him back in the mix with the tight ends yeah it'd be great i mean George is a great athlete so having him out there can only help um you know we're really excited about him and what you can do on the field so it'd be great i've always known so it's all getting better and improving it things that were big discrepancies in my game did you do some stuff with Jackson Josh Ryer a lot of guys back in the national championship did you win or no Daniels and just do you think about the depth of your life i mean it's uh it's an amazing thing i mean we're all pushing tough it to be great you know i'm just competitive which is i mean that's uh that's the best place to get better did you seek out Ohio State or they seek you out or was it kind of a choice i think you did yeah and how did you know you had a shot to even come here you know to mean Ethan how does that work in the portal honestly i i really didn't good enough it was just

1:22:22kind of a whole thing i mean yeah i put a lot of prayer to it to talk with my family to talk with my my agent like my old my coaches at rice and um they're really helping through the processing i mean without them i don't know whether i'll be here right now um yeah but by the grace of god i ended up here the graceful obviously just before i was the coach when you came here what was that kind of transition like of him leaving and then time of going coming in i'll say it was pretty seamless i mean both of them are incredibly good coaches they both know what they're talking about they they're really um tuned into the fine details so i mean yeah i wasn't worried at all wasn't yeah this is this is each one of the biggest things you like about playing for coach violence so far um he's a really good communicator um like we meet a lot and he's really good at it's kind of like putting out the fine details and how you can prove your game and then when it comes to different um skills and everything just how do i find to in it through practicing everything well um i guess

1:23:28i'm trying to live by being the hardest working person in the field so i mean uh that's what i want to do i want to spend the most time watching films spend the most time like after practicing in action work to a new high the edge i feel like that's how i would describe myself what about the efficiency of being more inclined to work on it well i mean yeah i mean i can always be better at a lot of things but you know just really like for working on the thing and let's be consistent that's the biggest thing you know is because it's just that you know what good bonus really like you know if you talk about the rough dropping that weight then right you say that's very good is that been an adjustment playing that weight prepared for you to work on it i still have better moves you still have better okay yeah so you didn't lose any strength at all yeah no uh i'm still did you know you got to lose better yeah no i knew and then um you know talking to dieticians and everything well i focus a lot more on getting the right like macros

1:24:30into my meals and um yeah that was really the biggest thing i mean the biggest thing about these in ways is diet but yeah it's like a lot more protein that's carbs stuff like that that's your base y'all are good there but yeah every game there's there's always one moment where you like if i did do this in the way room you get better at this then i want to end up in that situation so pretty much every game you're gonna kill it as defensive tackle as i was right there too i was really good um let the center stone just yet but uh we've been rotating time to see what best works and we've been uh all driving at the center you see yourself was that about the physical stuff possessing the message you wrote uh most of the game adjusted to the position that was the main thing um just seeing everything but uh tally tally told me he still really

1:25:33he really helped me out throughout the process uh tell me get better again with go in after him go in the master championship again and uh next what do you say those things you know tally like do you know what kind of lesson can you put uh really he told me main thing he would tell me when i stopped overthinking it just just block their play and that really helped me because um you know new position trying to find my rareness stuff so it's pretty good to give uh sisters all uh three-take i mean the strength wise by the outside uh and speed uh get those vards that's that really helps me a lot but with the conversations like when this first came up that you possibly think who are you talking to what what was it like in your mind when they asked you about tension? well i talked to uh coach Jay because there was the main one he wasn't forcing me or nothing who just said for one moving side he can if not still uh did and then you can do that as well

1:26:38but i saw that uh i could help the team out get some death right there so i chose to move inside wow hi yeah hi Jack I remember Jack, JT, Tileek, and Tileum to a great leaders, ordered off the field. They helped me with just simple stuff. Like if I didn't know where to go, get something down, they'll tell me, or they just like hanging out with a dude in the closer. Just a lot of different small things that got brought us closer to like last year. They already started going this year. I haven't started yet, but I'm gonna give a turn.

1:27:39You feel them? Yeah, I feel like, uh, maybe we teach an hour unit that anybody can be a leader no matter what year, especially, so I'm going through your scene, or even if we're walking, everybody can be a leader just, um, yeah. That's a really great thing to hit you last year that, yeah, this is great technique. This thing can work for me. I mean, don't need to get, you have to grow into it. I had to grow into it a little bit. Um, it's very new, especially playing D in my own life. Right. But I had a colleague help me, like I said, throughout the whole process. Yeah, when did it really strike you that I could be a factor? Yes. Oh, you know, what game or, you know, how do I win the two-field comfortable on this or anything else? I would say closer to us to playoffs, uh, me and my colleague a lot, uh, I felt comfortable. I okay, I can actually do this because we'll show me some stress I have like, see him like, see you can do this. And, uh, that really helped me get the confidence and know that I can. Yeah, but then you became a factor. You know, uh, basically through the playoffs and stuff.

1:28:39What did mean to you to be a factor that early? Uh, all the word of God first of all, to keep me healthy, to keep doing that. But it's been a lot that Coach J, trusted me enough to go on in the big games like that. And I'm new to now. We ever produce. What about your skillset, do you think? Good so far. Uh, definitely speed and strength was my made to. I was single, help me and the inside of us those guards. I really want to be a, uh, instrument. So what's the, what changes? I mean, mentally, just realizing your body's taken in there. What is the moment for you? You know, what actually I am going to take it up. Definitely my main thing also, uh, and so I thought the interview, talk about some of those interviews. I said the main thing was being a team player and moving the three teams was going to help the team. I was really moving to hand to it. It's the competition. Jason and Will and Tywan.

1:29:40Eighting, just holding that from the tap. It's a little bit tough to deal with. It's very competitive. Uh, we, we all come in trying to see what we need to get better. Uh, just to keep moving forward. So it's pretty good, good competition. And I love them, but um, and you made the move like during the bi-week last year, is that right? What was the toughest part about that whole crash course? Uh, really, Nathan, I really embraced it. Uh, I knew that, uh, I made the move inside. Uh, in order to help out the team. And we asked really great years last year, let's learn, uh, JT Jack came and carried to the game. So it was pretty good, eh? And then moving the three-tag, I also asked them down there while, uh, still getting able to showcase what I got there. Did you feel like you, like, just needed to get done quickly? Like, did you feel that pressure to get it done quickly? Because you needed to be ready for that next game? No, they, they were, um, all in on me, just whatever I'm ready, just let them know how I feel about moving in or setting us up. Did you still get asked about, you know,

1:30:41we heard three freshman hours, what would you play as a freshman? So it takes a little bit of a pressure. So you see, John Wayne's in his guys, I think they're going to be the best. Uh, Jack Wayne's chasing all the guys that came in, uh, they, they continue to work hard every day. Uh, even if they don't get it the first time, they'll ask us, uh, what are I doing in this situation that helped me out. So, uh, the ability to keep trying to learn from people that's playing in their big stage, uh, that's the word really going to keep them going. Were you surprised how quickly things did start to click for you inside just, given you said they were going to be patient with you, but by the time you get to the playoffs, you're playing like that. Was that the surprise how quickly it just kind of happened? I'm not really. I knew what I got it. Coach, it was going to trust me a lot more than to keep going out there each and every time. So, uh, I appreciate them. Uh, like I said, I'll be a big Lord. And, uh, thank you guys. All right. Thank you. In that vein, obviously, some different guys doing things at Guard, I know you were obviously focused on being

1:31:43attacked, but how much ownership do you take on trying to get some of those guys ready for what will be obviously a tough challenge, normally this game will potentially down the road. Yeah. Um, everything with the guards, I try to get my input to because, you know, for, um, really three, three years, I played that position. And so I was like, look like, um, what you're doing is not working this way. You got to do it this way because I've had experience to join against, uh, next to really good tackles and next playing at a really high level at guard. I was like, uh, I can help you out with this because I know what it's like or taking my experience of playing next to Paris. I was like, this is what I did with him. And we got to be on the same page in terms of double teams. Because if we're not on the same page, then that's how we get split. And that's how, you know, we work against each other. There's no movement. So trying to get on the same page with the guys playing next to me and the guys on the other side of the line to try to perform at the highest level. Uh, fifth or all right. Uh, Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic. Don't deny. I know 22, 22 didn't necessarily go the definitely people,

1:32:45but after that mission, I'll also seem like going to that game. You guys will be, been on more free a lot more loose. What experiences can you take from that lead up to this lead up? Um, to obviously want to win this game, but just to play free and play low on loose in this game. So yeah, I mean, um, playing free and playing loose is a lot better than playing uptight. You know, um, we're just focused on playing as fast as possible. And our coaches put us in a right position to do so. So it's our job to execute it in terms of what happened, you know, was it two years ago? Yeah, two years ago. I can't really speak on it now because I'm worried what was happening now. But, um, you know, it's just, uh, playing, playing with the brothers next to you, playing for the man next to you and, uh, not trying to let him down rather than your own selfish success is what we're all aiming for. Right in front of him, Stefan Krasnik, Cleveland.com. Seth is a guy who's, you know, had, had the playup experience. He's also probably stuck in this Tennessee team in years past. Maybe more so than anyone that you know, how much kind of

1:33:45as a coach now is he been able to help out these, you know, last few weeks, whether it be Michigan, we've been out leading up to Tennessee. Yeah, you know, um, he helps out as much as he can. He's always here, you know, um, you know, maybe not on the outdoor practice. He hasn't really gone to those, but, um, um, the indoor ones, obviously in the meeting rooms, he's, uh, he's a, um, a really insolval person. He's always helping out cars and always helping out the guards because, yeah, you're right. You know, he's played against the team many times, being at his former institution, but, um, uh, he's just given us, uh, insight on, uh, what we need to do, um, to compete at the highest level against this, uh, D line, because obviously they're a great group. And then, uh, just helping us improve as best he can. So, you know, he's still just as involved as he was, um, uh, before the incident happened. He's just trying to give back as much as he can. Uh, second or right, uh, midlandis, games of the North. That is what we've seen. We saw a loop plate center, summon camp. I've always played some tackles, you played some Jumbo tight end. What in your mind would make him a good guard for you guys?

1:34:46Uh, I mean, all of that is just versatility. You know, I feel like, uh, Luke is, uh, versatile enough to play, plug and play anywhere we need him to be. And, uh, he's, uh, had some great success at guard in the past couple of practices, but, um, he, uh, he's shown, uh, a great ability to anchor and, uh, being able to, he's been playing stronger in my opinion. So he's developing the right, uh, direction, but, um, we, like I said, like we just need to write a step up at this point, because, um, even, even the younger guys, like we need them to have the mindset of like, they could play at any time, because it's unfortunate to happen. But like we need to be able to go. Uh, Frank Roe, Bill Rebenowitz, Columbus Dispatch. I'm in the start of the year playing your normal position behind our next two, uh, central four-strand pick at Josh and, and the guys who don't have to be the Remington trophy winner, um, both those guys who fall on your plan, new position. Tell me what it's been like on the offensive line for you, um, especially having played the Michigan game and that didn't go well. And now we have a chance to do everything you wanted to do.

1:35:48I mean, what's the minds of the off the line right now? Yeah, I mean, it has been easy. You know, you lose, um, the best center in the country, you know, it's, everyone knows he's the best center country. He's a brain of the operation. He, um, position, position to succeed. And obviously you lose, uh, Josh Simmons, who used the lockdown tackle. Like you didn't have to think about who was going against you. Like, no, Josh got it. Like we can worry about what we got to do everywhere else, because Josh is going to handle this stuff. So now we got to, um, take a step back and be like, okay, like where can we attack to put our guys in the right position? Because, um, what we did before is not what we can do now. And so, um, we got new guys stepping up playing and they're playing at, uh, at a competitive level, but we got to put guys in the right position to succeed for games coming forward. And we, uh, we didn't execute, um, nearly as well as we wanted to last game. Obviously, but, um, we, uh, it's a beautiful thing about football, beautiful thing about the playoffs that we have another opportunity to go out there and play. Uh, Austin Warren podcast.

1:36:49I mean, what you think back to, you know, we mentioned in camp, maybe Austin would have to fill in for you in the short term. Like what advice do you have? And Zen goes into the line at the Carson from his back in. You have this now with Luke. Is your conversation advice, communication the same with all four? Have you had to tweak the message? I'm sure you're tired of having to keep going through this process, really. Are they, are all cases the same? You tell them the exact same message, no matter who it is or different, depending on each of those four guys. Yeah, I've gotten really good at giving motivational speeches, um, this year, but, um, uh, yeah, it's, it's always different. You know, with, with Zen coming in, um, uh, what we'll start at the beginning with Austin going in, um, it was like, hey, man, you're fine. Like this is the same game you've been playing just in front of a lot more people. You know, you've been doing it all, uh, for a long time, just keep doing what you're doing. Then when, when Zen came in, I was like, look, man, I'm here next to you the entire time. Like you're not doing this alone. Just communicate and we'll be out. And, um, it's, the message changes varying per position. Everyone takes messages different ways, but, um, uh, the end goals are the same as just to play

1:37:54absolute hardest and worry about the result later. And final question, Tim May. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I was wondering, is there a common theme when you're going against a talented defensive front, like, you know, the previous game and in this one, with Tennessee that, uh, they may not, they may not be as tricky because they're, they're really good players. You understand what I'm saying? I mean, it, it can sometimes win one on one battles and stuff. Just what does gotta be the mindset against going against a, uh, a defensive front like this one? Yeah. I mean, uh, um, the defense front, we're going as Tennessee is very talented. You know, they rotate a lot of guys and all those guys can go like they're relentless. I don't give you a time to breathe because once one guy goes in another guy goes in and he's, uh, just as good as the one that just came out. So, uh, the main message is just, it's just to, uh, uh, strain, strain your butt off. Man, get out. You got one on one. Like you said, like, um, they're gonna, they're gonna play you. They're going to play their defense and it's our job to execute our offense. So a lot of respect to their front.

1:38:55I feel like, um, obviously that very talented guys on that front across the board from interior to the edges. But, um, we just got to execute what's called to the best of our abilities. Donovan, thank you very much. Thanks, man. Me having that opportunity is good and, you know, I'm going to come out here and compete. Um, like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom. So I'm working, I'm going to work every day like I'm at the bottom and I gotta get to the top. How, well, what, what do you feel like it's going to take for you to get from the bottom to the top? Uh, you know, just, just discipline. Uh, they're big on discipline here and, you know, uh, competitive and excellent. Uh, so it's just staying consistent every day. Um, just doing the rights, uh, having little to none, mental errors. Uh, that's going to give me on a sale. Um, and, you know, I do, I do what I'm supposed to do. That's, that's how it'll give me on the field. How long does that, how do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one? What is season comes around? How do you manage people? Uh, you know, I don't really let, let me give some of my head because, you know, like I'm here, uh, I got, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like I did, you know, he's, it's gonna be a three-year start.

1:39:55I got your main personal American, you know, he's gonna play this year too. So I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's gonna play this year, but you know, I actually got to prove it. So I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, in that spot. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing everyday. Uh, that's, that's the biggest thing. Uh, having to compete, you know, these guys are a pair, they take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first, my first week up here when we did our competition, you know, I was winning, did I ask you, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes because like these guys take it to heart when they lose, they don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had, you had the opportunity to be around the team for that, you know, CFP Ron, what did you learn from Just Go's few weeks seeing this team make that run? Uh, you know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're, they're real tight. Uh, you know, they, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. Uh, they don't let nobody down, they always got each other back.

1:40:56So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, um, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in, uh, they're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle Luke? Uh, you handle that first loss? Uh, that first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was, it was the IGB, uh, you know, he, you know, he, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen. Cause it's like, now it's not high school where you, 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose appearance. Nah, if you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they go see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go, go in there and lock them. Like, yeah, I can't let this happen. I'm where, you know, so I got to grow up. And, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's, it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? Uh, I'm, I'm a great competitor, you know, I like winning.

1:41:57Uh, who does I like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. Uh, you know, my parents taught me that, uh, at a young age, you know, going after a competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go after a compete for, you know, as years. And if you compete for it all the time, who don't take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm, I'm always gonna go after that, try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody that can have it. And I'm gonna be the one that's gonna get it. There's some role markers in your room, obviously. You would talk her what would turn natural. Uh, yeah, I mean, it could come out on me, you know, but I don't really, I really don't know my game through the talking, uh, for, for this part. Um, but, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out because, you know, regardless, I'm not just gonna let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting T.B.U.s, yeah, I'm gonna talk, uh, but, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk, you know, the Jermaine, you got IGB, you know, those, those, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when we bring that out, they just bring it to energy out of the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see, you can see what happened.

1:42:58Is there anyone that's kind of, what's competition you have? It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just, just stuff on the field. We was just, just, just having the time of the field. Just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of like, we all kind of came to get that professional group like, what are we going to do about this? Because, you know, some of their kind of nice to step up in those roads. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, my work on college moments, you know, you know, just, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a metal high-o-state. I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm more in my school. Far from my family, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple times. How did, you know, grow it up very in Texas, playing at that level? How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real high-state? I feel like you prepared good, you know. I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area, you know,

1:43:59we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same lifts, you know, the level of ball I play, the highest level ball in the Texas 6A, you know, we're going against guys like Dunkeyville, North Crowley, those top schools, you know, received the Coyote Memorial against them. I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact. Because, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest football players in the country, you know, they go as floated in the probably Georgia. So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball preparing me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? Uh, you know, it was, it was when, when lose, when lose, you know, I went some, he lost something. So I mean, it's, it's, it's just, it's just getting better, I'm sharp and higher. Because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously, in our class.

1:45:00Uh, you know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at working. So, I mean, it's just, it's just, uh, just seeing what's going to happen next. Like a part of seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. And you know, I plan on planning against him. Uh, we don't, we won't see them this year. Hopefully we see them in the big team in the championship. So, you know, I, I want, uh, I want that rematch, man. DeVa, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. Just kind of lock it in here. Why? Uh, you know, because this was, this was, this was where I felt, this was home. Uh, you know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing Texas was a good thing for me. Uh, I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Uh, up here, I just felt like it was home. Uh, you know, because of all, and because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, because what, uh, how many times I came up here, uh, throughout my high school career, I came for 13 times. So, we got to the point where I was known, guys on the team, I had the numbers just like that.

1:46:01And I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So it's just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to put in my college ball at, uh, you know, knowing what I felt, uh, like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me. And she goes to sleep. All right. Fifth and real middle, Steven Leonard, college football, how old? Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there, all sorts of line being a strength that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, I mean, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out, you know, that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So I mean, it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack the offensive line, attack the weaknesses and be able to go after it and make it harder for the quarterback, means harder for them or rural. We're through all right. Andrew Gillick, believe in Dr. O'Connor. What's the challenge similar to Tim's question?

1:47:03And, you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do and how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, the belly fat was really good at making the grades? Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on them, we just be able to get back there. I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back there faster and playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, you know, get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rebeno and Columbus Dispatch? We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're a good one back in Jordan James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs in the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at the time. So, I mean, as a front pro, we probably stopped in the run. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. I mean, past rushing is good and all, but we can't stop the run. They're going to run the ball there and throw all the time.

1:48:04So, all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. How we're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So, I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make them one dimensional as we go out there. So, I mean, if we get out there every time every mindset, we go out there and we're going to get them. We're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball. What JTB was up here asked him about, how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy he needs, like the light that shines around me, and everybody goes around him, and everybody loves him. He's an outgoing guy. They come to you, shake your hand any time of day, and then JTB is more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. I mean, they're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, bug out of them. You guys obviously have faced TAPO. You did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one in facing TAPO?

1:49:06Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball with one or more important things. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency before they can do theirs. How did you call this out? It could be difficult at times. You know, you got to look to the signline first. You got to get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's definitely what we've been working on the past few weeks to just get the call, get the call early, get set so we can go and be play faster. Is there a time where you're like, you've chased a play to one side of the field? And now it's lined up. They're going to be heading to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline to signline just to get to the other side. Oh, yeah. I mean, I happened to a lot last game. It's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on and practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things. So we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we moving around side to side, running around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Time. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. Thanks, John.

1:50:07To the games. So you know, you know, I'm guys just definitely getting off that ball. So definitely exciting when I'm playing with those guys. Please, please, with the pressures. I know you got to get the section on it. Usually when you get the pressures, those sacks will come with them. Yeah, they're going to come in. I ain't too worried. You know, just keep playing my game and just keep doing what I'm doing and I might know they'll come. Did you feel like the pressures did affect? All right. I definitely did. I think he reinforced in completion, he's reinforced in the section. So I think it definitely had a hand on the game for sure. Dennis said that, you know, a lot of people that were down on you all last week or now praising you all this week. Is it hard to kind of block out that noise and not get too high or too low or is it crazy? It's pretty easy for me. I don't really listen to none of it. I'm just like then, like, you know, tunnel vision binders on and just doing my thing. Are you hoping now that deep offenses will pay so much attention to a long titan that it brings to you?

1:51:07Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just, yeah, then that play that we ran. There's a great play, great call by coach. You know, we kept sticking with it. Oh man, that boy, that boy, he did this thing. So, one of the sacks, he ran behind you to go get it. Did you pick with him about it and you took my quarter back down? No, no, you know, you know, sacks. Sacks, you know, they worked a lot. So I'm glad he could pick them, pick them things up. What does that, his performance, say maybe about his skill and how have you seen him, like as a player? Yeah, I mean, I'd say a great player, fast, physical, you know, just loves ball. I think he's, he's very good and I think he's going to have a burger here. I know you all probably haven't really gotten into a game plan of the film yet, but just kind of thoughts on Dagen Dallas and just kind of initial take on them. Yeah, I mean, we know the, you know, good team, you know, discipline team has great players, but you know, I think we are that too.

1:52:09So, uh, they could be a good match up and, uh, I guess we're going to see. After many things have picked up, going against him over the years? Yeah, you know, I ain't tripping over no cowboys for real. You know, I feel like just in terms of, because I played on my whole, most of my whole career, um, going in the same week, um, you know, watching them, um, and try to put, you know, try to put ourselves in the best position to win. Being and watching them for so long, do you kind of carry some of that rivalry still with Dallas? Um, and I just more of, you know, knowing with those Platinum, you know, multiple times, um, you know, you know, knowing with those guys or about knowing that we have to put our best foot forward. So there's not that much extra motivation to go get a sack on deck, even though you've played so many times. Motivated to get a sack every week. So, that ain't, that ain't the one just doing that. Your pressures were like a team high, to come in right away, like, to, one, like, did you feel like you could make that impact right away, but, like, and what does that do for the rest of the defense

1:53:11when you are performing at that level? Yeah, man, um, you know, I, I know what I can do. I'm very confident in my ability, um, and I know what I can bring to the table when, uh, you know, I go. Um, so, you know, I'm, I'm happy I can, uh, help the team the way I'm helping the, the team and, uh, my job is to keep going. How much does the way that offense played have an effect on what you guys can do defensively? Oh, a lot, you know, when you put points from the board, you know, the teams have to pass the ball. Um, that's more, um, sack opportunities, more pressure opportunities. Um, as you see more opportunities to get interceptions and, uh, force turnovers. Do you feel like the offense defense, they're really kind of coming together? When you talked about it a lot over training camp that the team seems like is the bond is stronger. Yeah, definitely from this game, you can tell it was a complimentary football, um, offense was, they were sitting on all cylinders, uh, literally, and, you know, defense, um, you know, we did our thing and, you know, we, it just kind of played hand to hand. Thank you, Shane. Thank you. I would say I was a physical in high school, but I've been a lot more physical I can tell,

1:54:14just, you know, coach making the strength staff. You know, they help you a lot, just exposing all that. So, uh, I appreciate the strength staff a lot. So coach, they asked all the, uh, the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were okay for us to come with the playoffs with them, and they all just give it a green light. Uh, they wanted us to experience that, uh, for the next time we're in the playoffs. So we can see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think I made us mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do when we do get to that place. Are there ways that you've already seen that thing all? Uh, I definitely can say, you know, just maturity-wise, especially from this class. I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature, but we've definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Dott of Enchax and stepped up for obviously, unless you're how inspiring is that for you? It's very inspiring, you know, me and Dany were pretty close, like, to talk to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump in that little time, was just really cool to watch. Carter, the, especially the three primary coaches you're working on,

1:55:15do they all speak the same language? If you follow my drill, I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? Um, you know, they're all from different places. So, at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that was in the league open. Now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So, that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain us a little different if you like them too, but they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Coach Dickin, in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What were some tidbits or, you know, things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Um, just let the little older playstyle, I could say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So, I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff, for sure. It's very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both of you in from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke Bro here and so far going into this year? I think, um, I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. It's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back, you know, I think all the software he's seen here, we always play to each other. Uh, but seeing him move into that, that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that unit right now? Uh, just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know,

1:56:18tell us what we need to do, and not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does this story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was going to fit in or whatever. Now, I'm certain, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game, maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really, if that's your desire. Meeting on, that's going to be a place on team. You know, play start kind of teaching the ropes, kind of teaching tricks, tricks, tricks, tricks, tricks, you know, you know, all the offensive lines I don't know. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to them for your office, especially about technique stuff, Austin's been playing, little different places. So he's going to help me a lot of my small technique things, just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing top ball? Is that really what kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy.

1:57:21Exactly what positions have you been repiting? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I feel very comfortable. Yes, these are grown men. You're going against Kinyata and Kaden, like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's a lot different than the high school you're playing, what, 16, 17, most 18. Yeah. So it hasn't been a lot different. I, the first co-practice were my best, but I've definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Part of the question. Part of the, I asked Jay-Mont, kind of the same thing. You guys obviously pushed my list very close. He came up to Lido, Hamptold, time, and then all of a sudden, but the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting the note to move on to the line? It's been really good. You know, obviously we had all the fresh from having a really good relationship with Coach Fry. You know, then seeing him leave was actually a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with Coach Bowen, and we're lacking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him, and he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Dude, I still feel, we feel a little off. I don't feel as balanced in my stance. And he showed me the small technique we can do on the field. Just still doing it.

1:58:21You know, even I left tackle, just because it's part of my routine. I was part of my process. I get into my stance. So it's stuff like that that he taught me from day one. Obviously in practice, it was fun just competing with him. You know, just to meet at the back of the pocket and to dab each other back to every rep. Like, that was competing, you know what I mean? So that's my guy. And as much as you love him on the field of the website, how bittersweet is it, that a certain matter is because of what happened to him? Yeah, that's the thing. That's not how I was definitely know how I, and how I thought about a transitional girl, you know, thought of being on home some time, in a car or no soul career. You know, I want to play here forever. I mean, I was talking about his plans. So, you know, you was transitions like one of those fairy tales, like, it's your time now. But again, either way, you know, we talk about it, you know, that's the Togo's.

1:59:24You know, but obviously, you know, you see, he's happy. And one of the big supporters. Again, I think everybody leads in their own way, you know, and not everybody's the... Bro, guys, come around, let's go. Like, that's not everybody, right? Like, I think for me, that's me specifically on Game Day, with the O-Ein after we do a little one. Like, that's my like, well, I'm dead. Like, that's my like, big, vocal time I feel like. I've talked to him about this, you know, just recently. I'm talking about how what I want to do for the Rommel is, I want to bring that hump energy, the Hebrew, right? So, last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing it for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, and happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I only had to focus on me, you know, I didn't have to make sure other, other guys were, you know,

2:00:25I was feeling some type of way when I came in here, because hump brought that. And I've a hump's not here, but I saw a way he did for the room. I want to be that guy to make sure I was amptical to practice everybody's, I'm more taken to feel a team on period, you know, it's a low day, or something, you know, it's a bit cement, but like, I want to make it feel like hump comes. Like, yeah, pairs of trip. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other, we would hide each other, and do something to probably get walked, we're flicked. So I want to do that, I want to bring that energy, I want to make, bring more guys, you know, to do that. Yeah, I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one, talking to them, and obviously it's that time I spend, obviously, the before OTA started, just being in my self-just thinking about what the room needs, you know, because I know I knew rural as one of the years, you know, on the law of funds,

2:01:25is that we need a guy like that, it's going to make sure the O-line is picked up, we're ready to go every day, I want to help a kind of a little things, or having a practice of people, saying anything, and how I believe, maybe different than somebody else may believe, you know, like, that practice, at least, like, the legal positivity, you know, I mean so, but, he, the energy I would be on, just the high-pitched beyond, so that's kind of how I want to be, to go on my, literally my whole iPhone, again, I felt, team captain, like, specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school, wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke, because I was in high school, so I feel like I'm not going to be a captain until I get that I felt, you know, but that would be awesome, you know, but, you know, that happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from, perspective of guys, onto the visual world,

2:02:27and to get back in that way. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that, I felt like it has felt, like how you used to move past, but it didn't take just the first LTAs, it took training, left and right, once this season ended, because I didn't know what it was going to be, so it took a lot of, you know, reps, just to give back to feeling, like myself, for the LTAs, and then that whole first week, but now, like today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet, I did say talking about the long coach, got some things I can do with my feet, to get to that, to sell that traditional angle that I love to sit on, felt even, I thought I felt, I thought I felt great already, but I'm okay, I felt even better, so I need more exercises tomorrow, now I'm getting my feet back, and how I like the right side, and I'm on the left side, so I'm on the right side. I mean, obviously, I feel like, in the league, whether I left or right,

2:03:27you're still going against premier guys, so obviously, you have high expectations for your left and right tackle, but there's definitely, like the level of energy, and like the expectations, definitely take the human strength, because now, I'm not going to lie to you, that's the, as detackable, you know, so, so yeah, I would say, in terms of communication as far as this, even outside of the facility, and stuff like that, I'd like really crazy that, but tackle quarterback, bond even more off the field, I think has been something that's even the cool, I got a text one day, is I, I keep, well, I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I asked after the season, they're like, honestly, you know, we'll talk to you, simply in the season, and I just got a text, depending on how this, we're with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know, what, I had an O season right tackle, so, if I get the word, I'm going,

2:04:28I'm standing right, tackle, I'll just do what I did before, I'm built on that, but I saw, I was like, I might as well as train the left tackle now, as if I'm going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that, than train the right tackle, get the call, hey, do the left tackle, I didn't, I didn't switch my feet yet. You know what I mean? So, I'm like, let me just prepare an advance, I'll say, yeah, let's go. You know, I think occasionally, on third down, there'll be a lot of twists, that I was just not like, it's automatically good to come. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like, I didn't have to go into, again, with some problems, like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured, like, okay, this is, this is the type of rush, I mean, again, this is how this guy usually rushes, if I get the vibe, this is how the ends, like the rush, tackles that are, first year guys, we got the premier patch on, already know what it was going to be, already know, every stunt. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage, too. So, you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twist on my side again. It was never air gone, but,

2:05:28well, they come out the hot side, three plays in the world, and two minutes, I knew that, it was going to happen, so a lot of, you know what I mean? So, I'm watching more, everybody else, and you rarely, you know, it goes out, they're occasionally, third down, I was at the end, I was like, oh, he's going to pick me. You know what I mean? So, fact, fact, it's kind of, it's also kind of an an engine, but that's all they can kind, I've talked to them about this, you know, just recently, talking about how, what I'm going to do for the world is, I want to bring that, hum, energy, the he-broad, right? So, last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year, when I spent my own, he brought a lot of the energy, excitement, happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I only had to focus on, me, you know, I didn't have to make sure, other, other guys were, you know, feels the type of way when it came in here, because hump brought that, and I have a hump not here, but I saw when you did for a room,

2:06:28I want to be, that guy to make sure I was an amptical practice, everybody's, I had more taking a field team on period, you know, it's a low day, something, you know, it's a, this event, but like, I want to make it feel like, you know, the parents are the trick. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other, we would have each other do something to, probably be a walk, we're lit. So, I want to do that, I want to bring that energy on, make, bring more guys, you know, to do that, you know? Yeah. I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one, to talk to them, and obviously, it's that time I spent, and obviously, it's a before-o-t-day started, just being in my self-just-thinking about what the room needs, you know, because I know, I knew we were all as one of the leaders, you know, on the offense, is that we need a guy like that, it's going to make sure the O-line is picked up, we're ready to go every day,

2:07:28I want to help a kind of a little things, don't happen to practice if people aren't saying anything, and how I'd maybe leave, maybe different than somebody else may leave, you know, like, at practice, at least like a legal positivity, you know what I mean? So, but, he, the energy had, wouldn't be on just all hype of the beyond, so I was kind of, how I want to be, go on my, literally my whole life, I want to get out of the NFL, team captain, like, specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain of high school, wasn't a captain of college, but I want to make a joke when I was in high school, so I feel like I'm not going to get out into like, is that I felt? Yeah. But that would be awesome, you know, but, you know, if it happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from to respect the guys on team, the visual words, and get back to that point. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess

2:08:28the biggest thing is that I felt it has felt like how you used to the past, but it didn't take just the first LTAs, it took training, left and right, once this season ended, because I know what it was going to be, so it took a lot of, reps, just to get back to feeling like myself for the LTAs, and then that whole first week, but now, like, today, specifically, just changing some small things with my feet, that good thing, talking about the long coach, got some things I can do with my feet to get to that, but to sell that traditional angle that I love to sit on, felt even, I thought I felt, I thought I felt great already, but I'm okay, I felt even better now, but I need more excites tomorrow, now I'm getting my feet back, and how I like the right side, and I'm on the left side, so the wrong side. I mean, obviously, I feel like, in the league, whether I left or right, you're still going against Premier guys, so obviously, they have high expectations for your left and right tackle,

2:09:29but there's definitely, like, the level of energy, and like, the expectations definitely take the human side, because now, connect the blind side, that's the, that's the tackle world, you know, so, so yeah, I would say, in terms of communication, as far as this, even outside of facility, just stuff like that, like, really creating that, but tackle quarterback, bond even more off the field, I think, has been something that's even the cool, maybe, I got the text one day, as I, I keep put it left, and I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I asked after the season, they're like, honestly, you know, we'll talk to you, simply in season, and I just got a text, and I'm like, having what happens with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know what, I had an old season right tackle, so, if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle, and I just do what I did before, I'm built on that, but I saw, I was like, I'm just trying to left tackle now,

2:10:30as if we're going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that than training on right tackle, because I'm going to call it, because I'm going to call it, I'm like, who, I don't know, I'm switching my feet yet, you know what I mean? So, I'm like, let me just prepare an advance, I'll say, yeah, it was gone, you know? I think, occasionally, I'm third down, there would be a lot of twists, I was just, no, like, it's a automatic, good call, and I think, that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like, I didn't have to go to the game with some pros, like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured, like, okay, this is the type of rush, I'm going to get, this is how this guy usually rushes, if I get the vibe, this is how the ends, like, the rush, tackles that, you know, first year guys, we got the premier patch on, already, you know, what it was going to be, already, you know, we'll be every stunt, and honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so, you're not, you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twists on my side again, it was never air-dombed, but it comes up on my side, like, three plays in a row, and two minutes, I knew that, it was going to happen, so, you know what I mean,

2:11:31so I'm watching more everybody else, and you really, you know, it goes out there, occasionally, third down, I was like, you know, I was like, he's going to pick me, you know what I mean? So, thick, thick, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way, but it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest look, you know, so those are real, real reps, you know, the things, so, really out, on our way to kind of process, and I was like, hey, when I tell him, he'll let me know, but I'm just going to train it, I was training all left, till TAs, I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both, I would have been cool with training both, continually, but I feel like anybody, any position will be like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible, get your feet kind of settled in, your hips settled in, your hands, so then, a certain kind of that. Would it have been harder to get your work both, there are HOTs?

2:12:31No, no, but, they're definitely, but in terms of the development, it's definitely a lot faster to stay on all one side, but I think having that the weeks that we had to transition with seasons over, I'm delighted, it was fun, you know, good, I'm trying to get up with a minute of that, and weak things at a time right now, but when it comes back, I'm showing the other house, I've got a house that's not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, like, I got a yellow outside, like DJ? You know what I mean? So, yeah. My mom said, you know, just go out there, my dad just dominated the person that's confronting me, you know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say, but, you know, they play men on men, so I'm just ready for the challenge.

2:13:35Yeah, I mean, feels good, just to say somebody going out there and playing men on men, I guess Ohio State receivers is something crazy, but, you know, we just ready for the challenge, they're sitting on our changing their game plan, but we gotta go out there and show them the reason why not the play man on men. Well, the multi-fixing, and somebody's not going to run away now, so we're sure we're going to be the conversation. Yeah. When you go to Carson Bay, I feel like I have a couple other bad states in case, why you still have four? Uh, I mean, I don't really, if I be on a curve, I'd be on a curve, I mean, it's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on a curve of a game, but, you know, it's not really a dream of mine. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after this easy. Um, no, just, no, planning, uh,

2:14:36Carlos football players as a freshman, uh, planning the Rose Bowl as a freshman, um, planning a Cardin Bowl, not in the National Championship. I mean, it's a blessing for sure, um, but they haven't hit me yet. Sure. I'm going to go right here. How about with your fan mail, can't you pay the bill? My favorite catch, I would say, when we play Michigan State, um, the one I call over to defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you can go, the one from Iowa, I should say, and as a pilot in two. Sure. I don't, I mean, yeah, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having again that I had in the Rose Bowl, and they're coming to the Cardin Bowl, and they're just doing different things,

2:15:37chasing their scheme up for, uh, gives me, um, but I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me, and long as we win, that's all I really care about, and it got us to national championship. It means a lot, we put a lot of work in this, uh, this season, uh, we have, highs, we have lows, we have people cutting us out, um, but we hear now, we just ready to pull on the show Monday. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, first of all, there's national championship, because there will means a lot.

2:16:38Um, you see everything that he's been through this year, people, uh, saying to be fine, and there's done a third, but, uh, I mean, you see everything that he's been through this year? I mean, I see everything I've been through this year, um, see everything, people saying about him on Twitter. Um, I wasn't here, uh, he first got the head coach in job, but I know this year, for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. Uh, I mean, it's a lot, uh, a lot of people in the league, I should say, I can't really say who, but I mean, you had guys like, oh, they're, you had guys like, uh, oh, they're, you had Stefan Dicks. It means a lot of, uh, Michael Tom is Chris Carter, just a lot of, you know, guys I played in NFL, and stuff like that, but yeah, really them guys for sure. Um, really good, great. Okay. Okay. What did they say? Uh, no, just keep going, um, you got it, you've next up for sure. Uh, really, I really like, for sure, yeah, so they said. Yeah.

2:17:44Oh, like, uh, physical defense, uh, like you said, like people say, like they like they played, man, they're not changing their skin. So we're just ready for the challenge. Uh, like you said, probably the best defense week, we probably go see all year, and we just gotta be ready to go out there in the morning, just put on the show. I'm excited. Um, I'm excited. Um, I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. Um, I'm excited for will, uh, him, uh, first coming here in Ohio State, January our first workout we had together, uh, man, just everything that we did through the season. Um, man, I'm just happy for will for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job when that's the uh, winning out of the omenda. Okay. Uh, I mean, it's pretty funny, um, them saying that because I'm, I'm just only a friend, but, um,

2:18:44it's a pleasure for sure. People even say that, but, uh, I got two, three more years left for Carlos and I'm just focused on cars right now. I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. Uh, it's very special for me, uh, just being a freshman, I'm playing the national stage, up here for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. Um, I'm just happy to be here, and I just can't wait to put on a show Monday for you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I mean, all the receives, we were just sitting on the bench and we just seeing him hit the quarterback the ball come out and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down. We all decided, um, happy for jacking that moment,

2:19:44and we just knew that that moment, like, yeah, this, we go on to the daddy for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, the last important thing was, uh, if you have to use a high school, and then you have national titles, how much that means, if you have that whole set of things, the direction, and what it's saying. Uh, Ministers a lot, um, you know, going from high school, or winning three-state championships, uh, Shamanama Donna, then, you know, coming to Ohio State, uh, just appear for national title right now. Um, but I'm happy to be here and just came with the Punisher Monday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The coolest person, um, I mean, you got a lot, I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys, Richard and Ali, like, um, Odell, you had guys like, Stefan Dex,

2:20:45um, a lot of other places were, just getting cut off my mom, but really, really them two guys were sure Odell and, uh, Stefan Dex. You're looking at Notre Dame, but something that you got on your mind, and trying to attack him, trying to dominate it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean, like they say, they play man, so, um, I'm just ready for the challenge, and just get ready to go out there Monday, and just no put on the show. Thank you. We're going to go back over there. Um, uh, the vice-geno had gave me, um, I said just keep golf first. Um, you, uh, he, I know the reason why I'm here, and, I mean, yeah, like he said, just keep golf first, and just no keeping the main thing and the best corner I faced this year. Um, I mean, I faced a lot of great corners.

2:21:47Uh, I can't really say, but, yeah, I faced a great, a lot of great corners. I can't really put a name on it. It was like a teammate, like I'm putting it in the car. Of course, uh, we're kind of, uh, we're going to go on our winning event. Yeah. What is your dream vacation? My dream vacation is, uh, Terence and K-coats. Yeah. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? How good are you? Yeah. Uh, uh, I say both respect, and frustration as well. Uh, but I mean, I doubt they come out there and me and they say stick it to whatever door in our year and that's playing man covers which is ready for the challenge. Pretty good group Christian Gary 29th is a great corner 15 Lornau More two great guys

2:23:01all right there very physical but you know we all have to receive it so we ready for the challenge. I'll say just no understanding the defense understanding the defense understanding the game plan understand what coach Kelly is trying to get done. I mean just coming in I felt I progress from our first game against Akron to now for like I better each and every week. I mean things slowed down a lot for me but yeah really just no understanding the versus and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. I'm two guys great part of the best we go see all year for sure to fit to physical

2:24:04guys but you know we're ready we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with and that's the play man no man and you know we ready to go on Monday. The environment is pretty crazy seeing all these cameras. Suddenly I never thought I'd see them alive but it's a blessing for sure this is the main disposition right now. I mean we just had a prayer prayer prayer prayer meeting and you know we all they all discuss the issues because they discuss issues and you know which is what the word mean not true and how we we had off before Tennessee game and we just came out there on Tennessee game and we play with a chip on our shoulder all throughout the playoffs

2:25:04and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder and that's championship on Monday. And you know how that very impactful yeah the very impact on my career I should say just going to his games as a very young kid seven eight years old him playing Westwood Westwood year and they played Clemson Orange Bull down in Miami. I mean just go there seeing his games it was like yeah I definitely want to play on the stage and I can't wait till I get to know that moment for sure. I think I will. I'm just kidding because they're really just in his own his own love space he's just walking around trying to get his mind right trying to get his mind ready for the game but you know he just game everybody hyping the locker room and you know just trying to give us ready go to win the game.

2:26:07Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, you go play, man, against Ohio State receivers. I mean, just be ready. Cause, you know, we definitely go come out there and know, give our best. And I mean, they said not to change what they do. So we just ready for the challenge. In the year ago, this time, watch the playoffs. They're just kind of looks for a division. Like you've seen this kind of situation. Well, not a year later, definitely sometime my career college, but not my first in college, I should say. I mean, just to be able to be in this position right now, this, you know, a blessing or just a yellow key for Miami to be here. And I won't take it for granted. I'm ready to go out there Monday and give him my all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I mean, I was watching that game against, was it Georgia?

2:27:25I believe. Yeah. I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time. Um, so I mean, yeah, they left a bad chance to name off. Um, but I mean, we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself and they'll just put a show Monday. Yeah. I mean, I just laughed. Um, but you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we're a higher state. So you got to go out there and put it on. Put it on. Why not to play? Oh, man, oh man, it gets us. So we just got to go out there and show them Monday. So, uh, I'm sorry.

2:28:25My journey here at Ohio State, we're pairing a lot for the National Championship. Let me just go on through everything that I've been through. Uh, my first guy here, all the, uh, Matt Jules, all the hard workouts that we had, all the hard practices. Um, just preparing all of us for this moment. And I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We just squeezed this. One or nine. 200. Me is big and strong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's your name? What's your name? What's your name?

2:29:26What's your name? What's your name? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty good. No problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, when I part of the most is the one against Michigan State when I caught up with two defenders on their side line, put it out one or the one after that, I should say, or you go to the one against Iowa, probably them three, probably my best ones, for sure. I mean, just we'll put in the ball in my area and I just know how to make a play for

2:30:28them. Even though somebody was grabbing my face, I just know I still have to make a play because the ball touched my hand. So, I mean, just when the ball and the other thing, I have to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. I have to make a play. After a big game, um, I mean, we really, they really feel as Chick-fil-A or Pizza after the game. So it's really either Chick-fil-A or Pizza. So yeah, probably Chick-fil-A, for sure. Yeah. It went pretty good. Everybody's just speaking with their thing is going right in what they think is wrong.

2:31:28We just a lot of the older guys, what's in their opinions on what we need to do to come to get as a team. But, you know, that me and Deftly helped us in a big way because it helped us on the team. It's a real, it's a real, because we play in a great football right now and we just got to shoot out on Monday. What was that you were standing there playing back in the coach? Yeah, Deftly got emotional. I can't really say what it really was said because players only and coaches only, but it was definitely some stuff said that people took, people took and they went with it and that's the reason we're playing the way we're playing right now. Yeah, make help me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me and Carl Nell as well and Brennan and all the guys in our room as well. Me just a great guy as well. Very smart. I mean, make just been a big part of the reason that I'm having a seat that I'm having at work because he's been a big, you know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys

2:32:32in my room like Chris Aliveve, Gary Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jibba. So he's seeing all the Chris I've been through there and I mean, he teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. I love it. That means they don't know what's coming out of the next. We got 12 personnel, 11 personnel. You get the two of us and throw one of us and you gotta stop it all. What have you made of the quarterback? Three of them. Not too much. I feel like they all come in here working. I feel like everybody's making their doughs, making their pads and everybody making their corrections. When did you take away the last season? I feel like I'm excited. I'm excited again. What did you take away from last season? I just gave a wall and I'm excited. When the next game, that was it. When the next game, go out there outside of the beaten man in front of you and you came out with a national championship on the bench. Spring balls about improvement. I said I didn't want to work on this. I'm going to go every day. I'm trying to get my game as well as I'm playing spirit. I'm trying to come up and feel it on.

2:33:33We hear about the leaders and the heroes. Not just for this group, but for the whole team. The group can step up who has started to step up and realize their place. I feel like we've had leaders from last year that came back. I feel like we got new guys that stepped up into their roles and their roles and around the team. They have become leaders. Being a leader, you all always have to be vocal. You can have the same examples on the field. Or you can be vocal. We both. What is it like to say that you've been for the last couple of years? You've been for that. I was happy for you. I see him out here growing and I see him as you're growing and getting an extra work. There's ball is ball. We come out here and play ball. He's out here doing a pro day yesterday. I just see him ready to go make some real money. What place do you feel like you're a different player now going into this year? Maybe you were last year. I feel like every year I've just improved on my overall game. Blocking and catching consists of eyes. People used that word but I feel like I'm just overall better.

2:34:34I came here ready to go. How much does it push you when you're in a room of guys like Max and Will and Bennett that you know you've got to be on your game if you're going to get on the field? I feel like Arya is sharp by Arya every day. You come in and work and they go push me every day to work. It's just like I'm a doodle. It's like an actor's before that. It's now crowded room. You got Max first or what's your brain? I love him more. I love Max. Max Claire. Max LeBlanc. Both of them. I love him. What's your flashed in the time of year? Is this the year where it all comes together? I feel like Arya was my year but hey, you're going to see this year. I'm ready to come out here and put on a show for the Bug out Nation. I feel like everybody on the field is ready to come put on a show. You got to play quite a bit though last year to lane. What did you pick up from all of that? Especially in a championship run. You know, they were counting on you. I just need to be ready at any time.

2:35:34You can be thrown in at any time. Just like I was. I probably had some rest while I was just thrown in. You got to get it done. Yeah. And if you don't get it done, they're going to find somebody who has to do it. I think we asked you this year to tell me if you'd come to talk to you. Where you can definitely see what you've progressed. Has it tied in all of that needs? I've been here even a year ago. I've been here over the spring and some of this. I feel like I've told them I've got a lot and I got stronger in the way we were. I've also got a little bit faster so I can get into another break. And just the mine part of the game. The middle part of the game. You got an even better end. How would you describe that? I'd say it again. The mine part of the game. Well, I feel like it's a lot more fair. I say the tight ends, we come here. Five o'clock, every other day, we do a walkthrough, more fair. Which is more students in the game now. We're in like that. Thanks. Thanks, man. One good wish is for you.

2:36:35You Bob, one for five. What do you remember about that? I feel like it was just an exciting play. I was the last read on it. Like the very last read on it. I don't go out. I came down with the catch. So we did the first down. You know what? It wasn't going to work. That's good. So far, thank you. I'm like that. You're, but I still had a great rookie year. Six yards of carry, you know. Things like that. I think it was like nine touchdowns, ten, including the playoffs. And so there's always been like, all right. God bless me show my talent, trying a little bit. Like, even when I had the knee. So I had the knee, right? A lot of people don't know. Like, I didn't get hurt again whenever I got, you know. I got cleaned up. So I went down in 21, right? I had the injuries, the knee injury. And then came back later the next year. And I played the first few games. And I just feel that there was a lot of scar tissue in there. So I had to get it cleaned up. I didn't get hurt again. I could have played the whole year. But I got it cleaned up so I can feel like me. And so after I got that cleaned up,

2:37:35the first two games back from the injury I had over 120 yards rushing. Right? And then went on. Had great, great ending of the year. So 100 total yards in the play-out game we lost, which I hate the most. It's not as bad as me I want to win. But then come back the next year, hurt again. Like, 20 kills. So two really unfortunate injuries. But that's just a guy's plan. You know, and I think that the storm is now over. You know, and I do think that I'll be able to shine my light to the whole world. Are you concerned that you have that label? I don't know. You can't stand it. I could care less. Because I do, I do, I know this out there. Because as it should be, it should be. I got hurt two major injuries back, not back to back years. But you know, so I haven't been on the field as much as I should. That's true. That is true. But it's not like I'm having these little, little dinky injuries and sitting out. It's something I can't control literally.

2:38:36So that's why I'm not bothered by it. Like, yeah, I am injury-poin. You can say that, you know, but I do think that the charges are getting a guy that's going to be healthy from now on, you know, God will it. And it's going to be great. And I do think that it's going to be a great however many years here. When you've been on the field, you've been highly productive. Yeah. 5.8 hours of very average for your career. Like, knowing that when you're out there, you're very productive. How much confidence does that give you that really all you need is an opportunity, you know? All the confidence in the world, you know, the way I work. I can say just from the numbers, but just the way I work, my work ethic, you know, and my relationship with Jesus is like, I have the most confidence when I step out there. Because I do know like, if he grants me the health, it's over with. I don't think I'll be, you know, I think it'll be a great year, or whatever, a couple of years, however many years, he grants me great health, you know. And I think just the work ethic, my prayer, and all that stuff,

2:39:40that's what helps me have that confidence. What the numbers will be there, and they might be higher after this year. You know what I'm saying? And it's crazy to think about it, because I had six-point yards, or six yards per carry, you know? So we'll see. You've been in Florida running behind this line, that they put together? Oh, yeah. You know, Brad? Yeah, yeah. I play with Bradley. I play with him, you know, I know Slater. I know all the guys, you know, and I'm excited. I think, like I said earlier, it's a talented group. You know, we just got put together, win some games. That's why I came here for it. Does it only affect the year or... I wouldn't say part of the recruitment, but like whenever I decided I was going to sign, it was great to have him in the room. What's your relationship like? Yeah, we're great. We have a great relationship. That's, he's like my brother. I think it complements each other very well. You know, he can do a lot of stuff too. You know, a lot of people think he's just power, power, power, but I think he has some other parts of his game too,

2:40:40which it'll be great, because I feel like I could do everything. And when one gets tired, we can roll it in, we keep rolling. Win some games. When you, the two of you, you're going, how do you think this is going to look for work? What will be that partnership that is back there? I know. That's a hard question. How do I think it'll look beautiful? You know, a lot of people call this a passive league, but I think you got to run the ball to win a Super Bowl. You know, if you look at the teams who win the Super Bowl, they can run the ball. They can control the clock. And so if we're both good, it'll look great. Beautiful. How do you describe that as a great running offense? I would describe it as, you know, a great offense. I think he gives a quarter, he's going to give the quarterback a lot of options. He's going to give the running back a lot of options. He's going to give the receiver a lot of options, you know. I think it's going to be great. His offense is going to be amazing.

2:41:40One thing that we talked about, you know, is like why you're going to build something good for a rush offense, is you know, throughout your career, which everywhere you've been. And you said that one part of it is just, you got to call the plates. You got to call it on the plates. As we're running back, you know, how much confidence, how much you say it is going to give you, you know, you have a play collar that's going to stick with it and allow you and the offense blind to you to a rhythm of rugby. It gives me a lot of excitement, you know. It's going to be, like I said, it's fun to play his offense. You know, and I think he does have some good things in the passgab too. But like you said, he sticks with the run and that's the identity. You want an offense that has an identity, right? You're going to be looking everywhere else to find your identity. You want to have it. And so I think his offense has that. And the guy he builds and puts in there, it complements that identity. So I think it's going to be great. You mentioned you're 100% now. So you'll be full goal for training. That's the expectation. Well, I ain't going to answer any of the four.

2:42:40If it's up to me? Yes. Look, because I had this problem like two years, three years ago. I'm thinking I'm full goal. I think I'm ready to go. And then next year, you know, I'm on PUP. Like, hey, look, some stuff above my pay gray. So, but I don't know. Hopefully I can start. I think I'm ready to start, you know, at the beginning of training camp. But that's not up to me as I've learned. I wouldn't say that. I think I've been in some great organizations. And I think this organization is a great organization. And the training staff is great. And so they just want what's best for me, you know. And they're taking care of me, which that's what you want in an organization. And so that's where that comes from, which I appreciate it. Like I really appreciate that. You know, because I'm a type of guy like I work really hard. So maybe sometime I'm blind to, you know, the danger of something, you know.

2:43:40So I appreciate it. But like I said, if it's up to me, yeah, I'm out there. But never know. Well, any frustration for you during the getting into free agency, you know, I don't deal with rehab and not, you know, having a full season of tape or production. You go out there was there any part of that where you're like, I wish I, you know, had it with a different situation. Yeah. I like it. I like how would I say this? I like it the hard way. But not, you know, I like it the hard way. I like it. I like trial and tribulations. So, I mean, the dice that I was given to roll was I was coming off a or Achilles. And that was that was the Lord's plan. So it was beauty in that. Like I was comfortable. I was caught like there was multiple teams, you know, I wasn't, it wasn't like I didn't have any other team.

2:44:42But I was comfortable in sitting back and just enjoying the process, letting myself get fully healed. So whenever that team whoever I would sign with who now is the Chargers is going to get the best me, you know, and I think people all around the league know that like, okay, this guy, okay, it's a high risk, high reward type thing, right? Not even a high risk of low risk because you, it's a business, right? So I got hurt last year. So not as much money and he's be throwing that. But I think everyone around the league knows that whenever I am on the field, the numbers don't lie. And so they know that and a lot of teams were like, alright, here, you can, we give you this, but we want you to be healthy. So when I'm healthy, it's going to be great. The chance that I've been giving here, I'm so grateful and I know that's going to be, they won't be, they won't regret it. Are you the type of person that likes to prove people wrong? Like you've done a couple things like the high risk, high reward, injury, prone, you know, like are you the type of person that really tries to prove people wrong?

2:45:46No. I hear it. I see it. It's pretty cool. Like you'll never see me unless I'm just like in a bad mood. You'll never see me like, oh, like if I have a great game or a great year, like I have this wonderful year, I ain't going to go back and, you know, like, yeah, yeah, what happened? No, because I don't care. Like you're eventually see, like I'm like, I'm a guy that's really good. So I ain't worry about that, but I'm proving myself right that I am one of the best in the league. Right? So forget all the naysayers and people that talk about me being injury prone, because whenever I have this great year, it's going to be forgotten, you know? So, why, why give that energy? Yeah. Talk about Justin and all our kind of chances. Yeah, I was, you know, we just, with him, you know, he's a great guy. I mean, he was in my class. I remember seeing him on, we were at an award show, because I was a dope walker or a finalist. And I'm like, I've seen him play, but I didn't know he was that tall.

2:46:49Like, I didn't know he was like six, so when I first saw him, this was years ago in college. And this was me tall. It was cool though. Like, I never really got to, I ain't going to lie, I thought it was going to be kind of, you know, nerdy, waist, he's cool, dude. Really bad. No, we'll face to him. It's just because, like, the last three years, it's been disappointed at the end of the season. So, I feel like we put more work in, I feel like that's what we're missing. We're just putting more work in. And you just got to do that throughout the summer, the spring, the fall. And then you just got to show it on the field. Tell the guy to test, Jeff, this, when you take a, just still like in a moment, in your practice, and you look at it through all of the deep fits. And you look at the person L-chains, they're coming in with Sunday moving up in the post-reline spring with all the guys in the picture coming back. What's your, like, view of what's out there on deep fits? And how it may be allowed you to do some things you didn't do? It's kind of just like, I don't want to like, high part has too much, but I kind of look like a legendary defense kind of.

2:47:54I feel like we got playmakers everywhere. And then moving Sunday down, I think that's a great move for him. You know, he's a big athletic dude. He can play in a box, he can play like safety thing that's just showing him how like, versatile he is. And Caleb, you know, he's using Caleb how he plays. He's an animal. He's only a sophomore, I think. And I feel like the guys we brought back, you know, we all can, we're all dominant. So I feel like as a collective unit, we're going to be like unstoppable. So confident is a problem? No. Well, there's a part of that too. And as I mentioned, they're about pacing yourself. If there's that much self-believe, then there's also that part of going to build depth. You know, in case you have interest, case you have vision. So how do you look at the spring in terms of getting the guys that are next in line as prepared to keep that standard high? I think you just got a set of great example for the young guys. And just showing them how to, how to practice, how to like watch them, how to take care of their body. Because those are the things we're going to need to like go on this deep run. I think it's like 17 games or something that we're not. We add in games.

2:48:54So the young guys are going to have to play. We can't just play 50 games a snap. That's not going to happen. So. Oh, you did. How do you get to a 70 or 80-year schedule in the play? He's going to keep working. How do you keep running? Give me a shake. You played so many semesters. You know what's kind of surprising to me that you said that. You said that. It was a joke, I'm sure. But like, you know, it was surprising to hear that from you. It's a really humbless after you played last year. Did that kind of take a toll on your last year? Do you think that you need to push it even further, get better shapes so you can play all 16, 17 games at the same time? Yeah, definitely. I got to get way better shapes than I've been. And I felt like it was kind of like it was a joke. But of course, I needed those snaps because the years before I wasn't really playing as much. So I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt. So I can bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot. One of those younger guys, we're seeing it. It's the first time it's heard all those last years.

2:49:54What have you seen from Lil? Because I kind of felt like last year we all forgot about him because he was hurt. Now he's running, you know, almost a second man off behind you and Ty. What have you seen in your memory? He's a workhorse. He's going to stay quiet. He's going to work hard. And that's all I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done, do a job right. He rarely has any mistakes. So what would be a successful season? A national championship? A ring? When all the games we don't want to lose anything? We got a mindset that we can't beat. And we just got to go show it. That mindset is different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year even more so you guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like an opposite mindset. Does that keep feeling different? Or is there not really any difference? It's just the same work. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home.

2:50:55Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute. You know what I mean? You were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that? Hey, you guys won a international championship. But you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying we just work harder. That's kind of a coach that makes a saying. Nobody cares. Just work harder. Like those, you know, one plate Georgia is the same thing. Yeah. Last, last play. You know, they went on the win in 90s. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course it is. You know, it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to, you know, come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year.

2:51:55And hopefully the outcome will change. And as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought that was working hard. And then you always find out there's a little more. You could have been doing it. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought, first year I was working. It's hard as I could, but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. If the stamina is a 16, then the answer is like, what do you need it to be to be your best? Uh, 85. 80, 85. I mean, I can, it's all on me. I just, I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny. But I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder in shape. So that's the stamina. Did you get the heart rate? It's been a thing. The idea of a potential is 16 or 17 or 17. How do you, uh, say about that idea that's making you nervous about, can you last that long? Or is it your worry? I think, I think we, I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys that come along. What is we can't play 50 snaps again?

2:52:56That's just too much on our bodies. Uh, just everybody like online, D line, we got to get those younger guys to play, you know, get that pieces on the D line and the online and everywhere else. So we can last that long. Speaking of the top life plan, if you like playing that movie, snap to the last year because I don't know if any of us were really expected to play that movie. Uh, yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. Uh, I thought like there are no moments you know, sit down or something, but we're playing them big games like, you know, Notre Dame, too, or North, those kind of games. Of course I wouldn't be in because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kaden McDonald? Is he got the game? Have you guys a little second? Oh, yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet, but in practice, he shows all the time. He's just, he's growing right now. He has to work ethic. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook and things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6th degree.

2:53:56You're 327, he's 326. Yeah, he's very often. I kind of look at him like my junior, but you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's just got to develop more and getting the playbook. So really a lot on you older guys. There's that large group of young guys, and then there's the seniors in your back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. We got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right during the off season. So they can play. And not just play, they want to like contribute, like make plays, tackle the sex. What's the state's out of work, especially? It seems like these guys get bigger. Each one of the freshmen class is looking bigger and bigger. And those guys kind of, those are going to kind of why you want to solve the first. Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I've only seen much of some of the day too. I'm not a bad one, but throughout the workouts, because they've been working hard, you know, they're determined to actually. And it looks like they're ready to work.

2:54:56I'm going to put this notes. It feels like there's a lot of great defenses that you have big, athletic defense attacks who can eat up space. But also move, you know, right? That is that. Is that an inquire that maybe from a great defense to have guys like you that have some faults, but also a great feature? I think that is definitely, I think if you look at the last couple, not some championship winners, like Team of North, they got two good, two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about this, if they were to fight by the defense attack, it's like, what's Georgia? It's Jordan Davis and Jeff Carter and what's Michigan. It's Chris Jenkins. How do you think about this? I mean, you understand it because you play it, but I feel like some time I don't know, are people realizing how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to?

2:55:56I think so. I think they're starting to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving forward to 478 and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about this freakish attack defense attack, do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have tape here, you're like, look at my show. So I think I'm up there with all those guys. Do you become like a artist or a person who can bat down passes the figure wings? Have your things. I mean, you're going to spring practice. I do not do much. I will never let go of that. I do work on that. Do you have like a goal? I don't remember how many you have last year, but you have a goal? I have a lot of 35. How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think he said it on the line. I think they had count some of them.

2:56:56And some of them were like, just missed it. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that goes big and what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of that is anywhere you can. You know, that little thing covering his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player. So, so it's something that you really, really have to work on. That's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. So, you can do your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen. Oh, that passes through the bat down. We don't have to ask for this kind of expected. I think I just have like an eye for the ball, kind of. I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his way. And sometimes he's throws it to me. I hear it's even if you have to be on high state quarterbacks. I'm in a bad down pass. I mean, they get frustrated by, you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting ready. Big time to grow, you know, you don't have to have the,

2:57:56the pig mentality of problem of, of instant gratification, you know, you can develop and grow. So, and sometimes you may be behind a guy that's a really good player is nothing wrong with developing and growing and playing when your time is right. And if the time is right right now, is it freshman? Like what's your main? Did you play early, you know? So, we try to also sell that, you know, we care about them as people and try to prepare you for life after football. So, it's bigger than just football. We're going to prepare you for life. Whether it's the NFL or on with a regular career in the, in the workforce. We want you to prepare you as a young man. And we try to sell that and preach that to the parents. With the remaining having that impact that you mentioned, you're holding all these different spots. Do you anticipate, you know, there wasn't a lot of rotation among the cornerbacks last year when everyone was healthy. Do you anticipate maybe growing him through the rest guys here with the longer season potentially? Yeah, we play it by ear. You know what I mean? We see how goals by time we get in the camp. But, you know, obviously he's earning his stripes. So, you know what I mean? You earn your stripes, you know, a large opportunity for you.

2:58:57You know what I mean? You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're going to see how it goes with all the other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff. But he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Ten more years away that you've been building the room. We're the way you kind of establish your room now. It seems like it's been, like, centerpieces, contemplations, and kind of building bonds. But I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like, a couple years ago, with the intention of doing it or is that something that you're like, no, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have, you know, direct teaching, the guys that have value and character and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. So, but they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about there. We're being as a young man, and when you get close to them and spend a lot of time with them off the field, you could coach them hard, and you can, and you can, you can, you can say truthful things to them, and then they're embrace it, and you can have real conversation,

2:59:59because you know, the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. As you see, a couple years ago, I think those have told us that the, the receipt room is so far ahead of the border, we've got to kind of skew that evaluations sometimes. How's that dynamic change in these two years? That's a scoop shot in the folder, and you can be better, even more counted. Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We have the, we go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys started competing, I guys started growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit, so where you get really good work at practice today. You know what I mean? So as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of all care about each other, so it's great competition, and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better, that will prepare us for Saturday. I asked Denzel, kind of like that same idea, and said, well, like first day practice actually, the receivers kind of got them, because I didn't kind of, but they're really gonna call me for this,

3:00:59but this is really good. I know, it's just, it's gonna competitive, man. They got the best group in the country, that you're going against every day. So you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room. The running backs are really good, so when you out there going against them is deep. So you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we see a lot of good stuff with, with Stay in Coach Kelly, doing over there, and so it prepares you a lot, and it helps us grow. So the weather season you're in, kind of an sensitive for green, future green. Is that? The weather season room, kind of, like a part of your green. It's like, these are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, all of that's because you know, that's where you get better. Our shop is ours. So you know, you get to see that every day at practice, that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage, Jordan, looking at to play that next spot. We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch our practice, we have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop out, there are four different guys in there.

3:02:00Obviously, Lorenzo's in there, Jameen is in there, Caleb. Miles, we have four or five guys moving around. Right now, we just try things out and spring ball. See what it fit. You know, see what things work together. So it's going to probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around and try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time we get ready to start the season. What's in it? It's out about Calvin since he's in the hard. He can run any strong. You know what I mean? He's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big, he's 200 pounds. He can run, he's strong, he's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So we look for big things for him to spring. Tim, what do you want to see from here? This spring. You know what I mean? He's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? He's starting going in. That transition is all just like I'm in Germany last year. You throw him in the fire, you let him go, you compete, you go by time we get out of the end of training camp. You have to be them figured out. Yeah, I want to. But now you just throw it all at him. Compete. Continuing to grow, continuing to learn. He has the skill set, he has to length. Now you just got to put it all together and it takes time to do that.

3:03:02And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. I'm going to do it with your spring and kind of click for your main last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here and to be by the middle of spring? Does he have to be in a certain point where you want it to start clicking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week. You know, because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know, you get another evaluation again. We'll get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go for starting in September. What's your assessment of growth that you've made now that he's kind of got his feet under one defense? What do you like about him and that nickel spot? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious and he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thank you very much.

3:04:03I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel, the great example. Does that surprise you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late in the rain? So they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's the testimony to the culture that's set here. The brotherhood, the environment. And of course, they run the program for those dudes to want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. So in fact, they come back and do that. It's a testament to how he runs the program. Thank you very much. As far as intensity, how would you evaluate your games tonight? Yeah. My goal was just to come out and play as hard as I could. It was a little weird last week for the first time in my career playing a game that doesn't

3:05:06necessarily mean anything in terms of playoff contention. And I kind of had to check myself. And this week come in with a mindset of every game matters. And we need to put the best product out there that we can. And that's what I try to do. Later now, it was a good push. Or you looked at the looking into your vocal cushion, but you returned. You didn't seem shaken up right after you kind of just talked about what happened. Yes, Sam, just tried to get it on it and caught me. It was more of like a stinger clip thing. But the ref wanted me to go to the tent. So I had to go answer some questions. Who's like jammed, yeah, Nick? You're like, you are helmet. I know that you've got a sort of a different helmet. Help you. Yeah, maybe when it hits the top like that, it's not as good. But. Probably these guys 11 months ago kind of crushed their dreams.

3:06:09Do you get the sense they're kind of a different team or an also that they. This was a very important game for them to win. I don't think they're that different. I think they've had a ton of injuries on defense, which hurts them. But the mentality of the head coach, you could see it throughout everybody. It's really a cool team. I could just see from afar that it's probably a fun team to play for. And they've they come out and they play to win every game and I respect that. I've put so much emphasis on the ball, all meetings and takeaways. And I think you got that to since the by-week. Is there any accounting for that? I mean, is there so many different things that go into a turnover or takeaway? How do you wrap your brand around there? It goes into every level of the defense. When you have your opportunity, I know we had two against Stafford. That could have made, I mean, if maybe if we get those, it sparks a bunch of other ones.

3:07:12So you just have to make your make your plays when they're there. And then just be in being the right spots. And I don't think we've done a great job of that this year. You've worked with a lot of psychosis and I've been to all pro. Did you want that matchup? What you think about that matchup? It's good. He's a really good player. And yeah, I wanted to see where I'm at against him. Have you ever seen anything like the Jameson Williams touchdown or his pop act to him? And you've seen something like that? I was in the tent, so I had no idea that happened. There was a play in this game when we saw a kind of a misdirection sprinted all the way across the field to make the play. Did you see the play? I think it was the one Gibbs cut back. Yeah. Yeah, I had like a 10-yard cushion and he ran by me like I was didn't exist. And I tried to sprint and I just just like, I don't have this.

3:08:17And thankfully, Mustafa is a heat seeking missile and he made the play. What did you think about your mindset tonight? What was your mindset against Miami? I mean, I didn't have the Katie. It took us. I mean, I think we came in with the right mindset as a team. Just myself. It felt a little like dead energy wise. But yeah, it was a learning, a moment for me to learn and make sure that I come in with the right mindset every single week. And it feels like there's a lot of plays where you guys get to get the whole pass breakups. And it'll be like a couple plays in the row. And then there's next little civil allowed. What can you put your finger on about the circumstances? Yeah, I mean, we did. We did get them to the second, third and longs. And then yeah, they would make a big play. And you definitely want to capitalize when you back them up like that.

3:09:20We didn't do that tonight. And that's why they scored 40 points. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. You guys like Chris Carter. Guys like Michael Thomas really new to guys for sure. I mean, Michael Thomas was talking to me before the game with a Rose Bowl in Chris Carter and after the game as well. I mean, just giving me advice. Just telling me keep going first and you know, just keep doing what I've been doing the whole year. I mean, I'm got bugger alleges. So definitely look at them guys for sure. Make sure respect. That means a lot of me just to care for Miami. Just be able to play an actual championship as a freshman. Something that I dream of as a kid and I'm here now and it's okay.

3:10:22Ready. Can't wait to put on a show Monday. He said he got. I mean, the Tissues know like he says may crazy each and every week playing. But you know, can't. Can't let it get to my head. I should say. I'm just football at the end of the day, but you know, just know happy business. I'm just. Oh, none of us think we could be covered, man. Oh man, we're actually talking about this yesterday as well. But you know, I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do. Maybe we should go out there and know play our game and know. So, so that reason why not to play men on man.

3:11:33Two. Four. Third. One. I go five. It's good. The problem. I said, you know, just go out there Monday. Just dominate the person has a front of me. I'm just doing what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say. But you know, they play men on men. So I'm just ready for the challenge. I mean, feels good. Just say somebody going out there and play men on man guess how high your state receivers is something crazy. But you know, we just ready for the challenge.

3:12:33They said they're not chasing a game plan, but we've got to go out there and show them the reason why not to play men on man. Yeah. I mean, I don't really, if I be on the cover, I be on the cover. I mean, it's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on the cover of a game. But, you know, it's not really a dream of mine. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after the season. No, just no playing in the colors football playoffs as a freshman, planning the Rose Bowl as a freshman, planning a card and bow and not in national championship. I mean, it's a blessing for sure, but I haven't hit me yet.

3:13:42My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State. The one I call the two defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you can go the one from Iowa, I should say, and the answer. Probably them two. Sure. I mean, yeah, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having a game that I had in the Rose Bowl. They're coming to the Cardinals, just doing different things, chasing their scheme up for, gives me. But I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make the, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me. And long as we win, that's all I really care about. And it got us to national championship. Right here. I have to park the steering to the 14th, and then we'll get number 14.

3:14:45And there's a whole group of people who are going to play for the whole, that's the important factor. So we'll just be right here, so now we're going to have to come and make a good check. It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this, this season. We have, how has we had loads. We have people kind of out. But we hear now, we just ready to put on a show Monday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, there's a national championship because there means a lot. I mean, you see everything that he bent through this year, people saying he should be fine. And this is not the third, but I mean, you see everything that he bent through this year. I mean, I see everything that he bent through this year. I see everything, people saying my hem on Twitter. I wasn't here, he first got the head, caution job. But I know this year, for sure, we definitely got to win this for him.

3:15:46I mean, it's a lot of people in the league, I should say. I can't really say who, but I mean, you had guys like, oh, there, you had guys like, oh, there, you had Stephard Dicks. It means a lot of, my good Tom is Chris Carter, just a lot of, you know, guys I played in NFL and stuff like that. But yeah, really them guys for sure. No, just keep going on. You got it. You've messed up for sure. Really, I really that for sure. Like, physical defense, like, like you said, like people say, like they like to play man, they're not changing their skin. So we're just ready for the challenge. Like you said, probably the best defense we probably go see all year.

3:16:46And we just got to be ready to go out there Monday and just put on the show. I'm excited for will him first coming here in Ohio State January our first workout we had together. I mean, just everything that we built through this season. I mean, I'm just happy for will for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job and that's the winning at the O Monday. I mean, it's pretty funny. Them saying that because I'm just only a freshman, but I mean, it's a blessing for sure people to even say that, but I got two, three more years left for college. And I'm just focused on college right now.

3:17:46I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. It's very special for me just being a freshman and playing the national stage. I appear for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on a show Monday for you guys. I mean, all of us used to sit on the bench and we just see him hit the quarterback and the ball come out and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down. We all decided happy for jacking that moment and we just knew that that moment like, you know, this we're going to the party for sure.

3:18:52How does that feel to have that home set? Did that set most? Me, it shows a lot, I mean, you know, going from high school or winning three state championships, Shamanama Donna, then you know, coming to Ohio State just to appear for national title right now. I mean, just so that I've picked two great schools, but I'm happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on a show Monday. The coolest person. I mean, you got a lot, I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys, re-challeling like Odell, you had guys like Stefan Deeks, a lot of other players will just get cut off my mom, but really, really them two guys will show Odell a step on Deeks. I mean, like they say, they play man, so I mean, I'm just ready for the challenge and just get ready to go out there Monday and just no putting a show.

3:19:58We're going to the back of the room. The vice-geno had gave me. I said just keep golfers. I know the reason why I'm here. Like he said, just keep golfers and just no keeping the main thing and the best corner I've faced this year. I mean, I've faced a lot of great corners. I can't really say, but yeah, I've faced a great corner. I can't really put a name on it. What is your dream vacation? My dream vacation is, uh, Teres and K-coves.

3:21:10How good are you? I say both respect and frustration as well. But I mean, I doubt they come out there and try to put to me and they say stick it to whatever they're doing our year. And that's playing man, covers, which is ready for the challenge. Pretty good group. Christian Gary 29 is a great corner. 15, Lenard Moore. Two great guys are right there. Very physical, but you know, we all highest they receive us, so we ready for the challenge. I say just no understanding the defense, understanding the game plan, understanding what Coach Kelly is trying to get done.

3:22:26I mean, just coming in, I felt I progressed from my first game against Akron to now. I feel like I better each and every week. I mean, things slowed down a lot for me. But yeah, really just no understanding, differences and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. You guys, great part of the best we go see all year for sure. Two physical guys. But you know, we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with and that's to play man on man. And you know, we ready to go on Monday. Yeah. I mean, the environment is pretty crazy. Seeing all these cameras. Suddenly I never thought I'd see them alive, but it's a blessing for sure. This is the main exposition right now.

3:23:30I mean, we just had a prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer meeting. We all discussed the issues because they discussed issues, which is one of the work. I mean, two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game and we just came out there. Tennessee game and we played with a trip on our shoulder. All throughout the playoffs and we go continue to play with that trip on our shoulder. And that's the championship of Monday. Do you know how that very impactful, he had a very impact on my career after say, just going to his games. I was a very young kid, seven, eight years old. Him playing West Virginia and they played Clemson, Orange Bull, down in Miami. I mean, just going there, seeing his games. It was like, yeah, I definitely want to play on the stage and I can't wait till I get to know that moment for sure. Who are you?

3:24:37Because they really just in his own, his own little space. He's just walking around trying to get his mind right, trying to get his mind ready for the game. But you know, he just gave everybody hype in the locker room and you know, just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, you go play, man, you get all high of the receivers. I mean, just be ready because you know, we definitely go come out there and know, give our best. I mean, they said not to change what they do. So we're just ready for the challenge. Not a year later, definitely sometime in my career college, but not my first in college, I should say. I mean, just to be able to be in this position right now, just to be here for Miami to be here.

3:25:41I won't take it for granted. I'm ready to go out there and give him my all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was watching that game against, was it Georgia? Yeah, I was in that game. I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time. So I mean, yeah, they left a bad testimony mouth, but I mean, we ready to go out there and Monday to redeem myself. So just put a show on Monday.

3:26:45I mean, I just laughed. But you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we're a higher state. So I'm just going to go out there and put it in. Why not to play a man on man against us? So we just got to go out there and show them my day. Can you say the game? I'm sorry. My journey here at Ohio State, prepared me a lot for not just checking, but still me just going through everything that I've been through. Now first guy here, all the Matt Jules, all the hard workouts that we had, all the hard practices. Just preparing all of those for this moment. And I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Okay. Yeah. We just squeezed this.

3:27:49200? Me is big and strong. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. What's the one? That's great. Yeah. Pretty good. No problem. Yeah. It's a good one.

3:28:49It's a good one. It's a good one. I think that I should say, or you go the one against Iowa, probably them three, probably my best ones for sure. I mean, just we'll put in the ball in my area and I just know how to make a play for them. Even though somebody was grabbing my face, I just know I still have to make a play because the ball touched my hand. I mean, just when the ball is the only thing I have to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game, I mean, we really, they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece after the game. So it's really either Chick-fil-A or piece. So yeah, probably Chick-fil-A for sure.

3:29:51Yeah. It went pretty good. Everybody just speaking with their thing is going right in what they think is wrong. Which is a lot of the older guys, what's in their opinions on what we need to do to come to get as a team. But you know, that me and DeFi help us in a big way because it helped us on the field as well because we play in a great football right now. And we just got to tune out on Monday. Yeah, DeFi got emotional. I can't really say what really was said because players only and coaches only. But it was definitely some stuff said that people took, people took and they went with it.

3:30:52And that's the reason we plan to ride with plan right now. Yeah, make help me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me and Carl are in the end, Brennan. And all the guys in the room as well. Me just a great guy as well. Very smart. I mean, make just been a big part of the reason I'm having a season I'm having a well because he's been a big. You know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys in that room. Like Chris Olalvegaer, Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jibba. So he's seeing all the grids I've been through there. And me teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. And I was along with it as much, and I was in the other way. I think that's the other thing. Did you feel underrated as an aspect of it? No, I felt like I was right. I mean, coming out of there, it's got me different. Not me and I just feel like I had all the offers, I think I'm not mean. But I've seen a lot of fucking down there, hurting my side's body.

3:31:53It doesn't matter if you're hearing those other stuff. What was it like to take that in the sense of being a sportsman? You know, I felt good. I was feeling an auto-hard work and I do that spring. I'm teaching faculty, you gave me, and I just paid off. I didn't know this way. I was playing with a camera. Taking the two deep as a true freshman, now I'm late to do the job. I'm two idiots and have a bigger role. Just what do you expect going into your second role? You know, I just worked to beat you. I mean, obviously, I'll be running whatever, with having these savings or whatever. You know, I'm just working just to beat, you know. I've worked my tail lobes, you know. Making money from my side. I've been trained specifically with my wife. I got, I would say like, I've got a lot more aggressive, not getting, you know, I gave some weight now. I'm pushing 200 pounds now. I'm not having any struggles. Coach Patricia, what have you, uh, seen for the day that now I've been like, really good at it? No, he's a great guy. You know, I like him, you know, big. He's a size coach and he's a great guy. He cares about his players.

3:32:53You know, obviously football wise. He's a master. He's behind us. He's a love respect. He's football business. You know, and it's time being that I found myself a place to reflect you. Was there, was there, was there a place to be staying at? I wonder if it's like the starter or occasional piece of what you expect to see from the day I'm complaining and it's been a lot of fun. I expect you know, just to add value, you know, former who for this team and just make players. You feel a lot more, I feel this year. Or you last year. Oh yes, for sure. I feel like, you know, I'm starting to use the everything here. And I feel like I'm just trying to pull off my new last year. Just, you know, like I said, that's my biggest. What? I was going to say, you know, mindset at the beginning was spring. I was starting to scratch in a way and I wouldn't be wanting to be watching the shadow of the national team. How was the team really embraced that mindset and see competitive in that mindset? You know, you know, we have one idea so far. So, you know, we're trying to stay determined and I know just trying to dominate. And we're not learning in the past anymore. It's like you're never going to have to be just trying to get another one.

3:33:55How the coaches got adventure with your having an A and B rule? You have a B rule that you're going to have a full one in. Yeah, get some reps in another position. I've seen right now playing Stony and Free City. You just trying to, you know, craft myself and just make myself more versatile for the team. Where I got to go. I'm going to get some more last file. I'm going to be limiting his reps. Right. Obviously, he's living in like a playoff. So, you know, obviously, I'm leaving this now. And to him, you're going to be running on line with this. All this work. I mean, skipping, skiing better. Thank you. Appreciate it. You know, the lion. So, like, there's some stuff. At least we did over there in order to aim that we'll see if we're able to kind of implement something here. I'm sure some maybe not others depending on what our guys do best. I probably thought about CJ because it's like it's a fresh start. I do say the eyes on him. And I think it's an opportunity to be multiple and use him. And what he does best, you know, or so. That's the exciting thing. You know, when you really studied what coach Patricia has done in the past,

3:34:55is he likes to take like, okay, who are, like, who are our players? And then let's build it around those guys. And I think CJ has had a hell of a winner. I think he's one of those guys. I'm excited to see how we create up a new zone into the spring. Does that mean you see how to be like, float as more of an edge defender? You've kind of differently than you guys do? I think, yeah, I think he has that, I think that's exactly what kind of like the attention CJ has. It's the ability to, you know, get on the edge, move around. The nice thing about that is, is that you're not handicapped just with CJ doing one thing off the edge. You think you have the ability because he understands conceptually, the zone drops, linebacker terminology, right? You can get really creative with how you use him. But I think he definitely needs to be utilized more as a, just go to the heart of the match, go, go be destructive. What's happening? What about you? I don't know. I don't know. I'll find out on Monday with you, man.

3:35:56What about Matt as a leader of you guys? This coach has had you, how are you? How are you seeing that and how to feel about the higher foot? I love the higher. I've had a lot of respect for coach Patricia. I've never since he worked me a Marcus out back here. What we were talking about that when he first was at the interview process, just kind of how fast time goes. But I'm really excited just to continue to learn. Like I said, like there's some, it's funny because there's some terminology that, when I was at Notre Dame, you can use and I can at least speak some of his language with what he's called things before and you're trying to morph everything together right with these things that we've done. What he knows and do, it's a lot. But he's been incredible with, I think the staff, he's very organized, he's detailed. You'll have constant, clear communication. You know, and they're going to get together at this time of the evening. Like you're just efficient in your role. And it's been a lot like when you're come from outside and you come back into it,

3:36:58you have to try to catch him up on the recruiting board. And you know, like you have a lot of these conversations, okay, what are we looking for at these positions now? How do you see it? Because you know, under one coordinator, you might see a, the mic line back, it needs to be this. And then under this coordinator, well, I think the mic back needs to be this. So you have to have those conversations at every position. And you just kind of keep going through and, but I'm just excited to learn. I think the more systems, I mean, look, play the system here in college, play the system underneath Vagmolo, play the system in Tim Walden, play the system under Greg Williams, Dennis Allen, Coach of Ralgold, and Jim Nolte. Like every one of those, there's like different terminology for everything. So you're just, you're learning a different language, calling things, you know what I mean? There's concepts and I think it just kind of collect over time. What you think is really good stuff and how you do stuff, maybe a little different. I'm just really excited to learn from Matt and Tim's ton of success. He seemed very excited over there talking really to me here.

3:37:58Yeah. Focusing college, which, whatever, so long. What's his person, how they like to meet you guys? Yeah. He's been great. I mean, his energy is incredible. He's very, he is. He's authentically excited to be back in college football. He could tell there's like a yearning to get back to, like the while you got in the coaching, right? And he's like, you know, kind of like talking to the guys. You can sense like he's excited to just teach more. You know what I mean? And kind of ironically, like, you know, similar to a lot of other things that chips that last year, right? Yeah. Get back and you're like, man, I'm just excited to. And so he has that excitement. He's done a phenomenal job, I think, of getting to know the players. Just kind of like walking around versus like popping in, making sure that you're not going to be able to do it. And I think that's what I'm going to do. I think that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to be able to walk around versus like popping in, making sure that he's in front of them and they get to know him and he gets to know them and it's a lot. You could imagine when you come in. You have all these guys, right?

3:38:58And try to learn all these guys. I'm learning recruiting, trying to learn the staff. I'm learning dynamics. Like it's a lot. But he's handled it really well. And, you know, he's an old school Bauchoer. So he's a Grindr. So he's doing a really good job. James, the fun he's probably not going to need to do much in this spring. How much more can you get done with the young guy? Let's tell him that. So yeah, I do a lot. But in terms of Ryan DeRity said, you know, 50%, 75% or whatever, how much more can you get that would be young guys when they're not worried too much about the senior? Yeah, I think, I mean, you're always just looking for competition, especially like at Sprimball, of Mesmerized Hall Mount, right? You're trying to have a so-called cliche, but it's true, like the Iron Sharp, it's Iron mentality of you want your run to be super competitive to where, hey, the guy I'm trying to be makes a play. Yeah, my next set of four plays, I gotta go out there, I gotta be on point, right? And it's a constant driving of the room forward. And so yeah, Sonny gets 50 or how many reps off? 50%, whatever Coach said.

3:39:59But that means more opportunity for somebody else to play, right? So that'd be more for our values, that scheme flexibility with our value, we're gonna pay peers around, we'll be, it's that TJ Riley, you like all these guys, you know, they're all gonna get more reps, I think it's great, so we gotta do it at this point in the season. But I think, you know, yes, there's still stuff that, within that all of a sudden, is that he's gonna be clawing to try to get those reps because he's a true pro. And that's been the most enjoyable thing about, I think, working with him is like, you get a kid who's played safety his whole life, comes to the back yard, he just wants to learn the why behind everything. And, you know, very similar to the fact of Cody, that we have guys who are that easy to work with, you're not trying to like, not worried about texting anybody in our room, about coming over and trying to learn all, you know what I mean? Like, were you at, you know, like, they're obsessed with the game of football, they're always around when they're at class. So it's like, it makes it really easy as a coach,

3:40:59because they're passionate for the game, and so strong. You mentioned TJ in terms of the higher with the map, just what can sunny, like, what do you envision, more with him with all of that stuff? I think, I think we just have a lot of guys with a lot of links, we talk about sunny styles, long, conron, our Valries, long conron. Like, it's crazy, because you see sunny, and you're like, okay, this guy, like, I wish I was built like that when I played, and then you see our Val stand next to sunny, you're like, you know what I mean? And so like, and then you look across the room, like, as the room warms up, you're like, holy smokes, like, we just have a bunch of guys, and that's a lot of credit to make. Coach made it as a phenomenal job. I was just talking to Burma about it, like, to see even our media guys, what they looked like when they showed up, during the whole of the whole natty run, and they're kind of hanging out during practice, and you see the high school bodies, you see what they look like today, before they go away,

3:42:01and like, the shoulders are all like, everything is just different. And they've been indoctrinated into the brotherhood. And so I think, you know, there's just a lot to work with. And so what he's really good at, right, is like, and he's talked about it. One year, he has Junior Seo, we'll even get us Mike Vrable, you know, Roosevelt Colvin, and those guys, and then a couple of years later, he has Brandon Spikes, so he's like, okay, I'm just, I just put his blitz brand in the middle all the time, because he was 260 pounds and a beast. You know, he says he was my best nose guard from Mike Backer, right? And then the year after that, he gets, you know, got Jamie Collins and Dante Hightown. So now we can do a lot of stuff, right? So, they're just like, hey, this is what we're doing. We got plenty of people in there. And I say, hey, here's what we got. Let's utilize it. So that's what Sprint will be. While going to lab and figure out what they mean, so I'm sure through Sprint Ball, there'll be like, hey, here's what we do really well. I just use it, because this unit's gonna be different, right? And then you know, we do a lot of production.

3:43:03So the unit will be different. So you kind of got to reform your own identity and you have to re-hearn that silver bullet, big name and mantra. How many of you guys can look at Arbel? I just, it seems like he's on a very good track. Is that it? Is it right? Just puts his ceiling, just talking to Sprint Ball. It's just right now he's locked in. He's done a great job becoming a leader, coming out of his shell. I think, you know, I think for Velley, it's all about his just to see and just preparation. And I'm proud of Arbel, you know, he's through the season, you got way better at, you know, a lot of it's little things, just note taking and stuff. Like sometimes these kids are always on their phones and stuff, not like in meeting runs or anything like that, but just naturally. So like to get out of pen and paper and like, you hear things and to me, oh yeah, I got it. What you do until your dog tired and then you forget, because you know what I mean, but when you really understand it, you know what I mean, like go play faster. You got so much better through the year. Just a lot of that's because of Cody, like becoming a pro. And now it's like Sonny's pulling him along.

3:44:03He's pulling paint along the paint's pulling TJ and Riley and Eli, so they don't still like. So I kind of love the competition right now and the way it's made up. Yeah, Velley is on a great path right now. How many different guys do you feel like can be in that Mike's spot? Three years. But that was obviously losing Cody and now having that. I think that's something that's fluid as we kind of go. Because, you know, week one Sonny actually started on Mike for us and Sonny smart off the play of mall. Our Velley smart off the play of mall. Pain pierces smart off the play of mall. And that's also like, how did you, like depends on what scheme you're running. Where are they? How do they be utilized as well? You know what I mean? So you can say Mike Backer, you know, whether it's Tommy, I can very grow up there on research. Two different people and Cody's different than those two. So I challenged to like a lot of the guys that come in and so you got the other both. The more you understand about the scheme in general,

3:45:04the faster you will play. You know what I mean? Like if I just sit here and I say, hey, I got there on Mike, my drop is this. And that's all I need to know. Like, well, no, football happens so fast. And all the shifts and motions that like, if you're out there just playing and you're waiting for a call and you're just reacting, like you're so worried about what's going on on your side of the ball. You didn't recognize that the offense is telling you something that's what they're doing. So if I'm out there and also I'm not getting a call, I know what the call should be. It's like, hey, are we playing? You know, let's go. Now listen, you get it. You can look, I can see, okay, here's what the tight ends doing. That's what the backs doing. Here's what plays are coming. If you just line up and play, it's rather passive every time. Like you know, stay in a chance. You got to eliminate plays in your mind by seeing what the offense is doing. Like they tell you a story every time they line up, they just window dressing. My people motion and say, I'm just trying to, okay, are they trying to do man's own indicators and they're trying to make sure that they're getting the same formation that are in the same place. But they just shift the people in the motion. And they move and they don't want you to recognize them. So for always worried about what work you're doing me

3:46:05is what the more you know, the faster you can play. You're not sitting there thinking, oh, what do I have for you? You're reacting. So here I know you have. So my challenge to guys is like, there's always a no both. So I think a lot of just beyond, on depth of sure guys, if sunnies are only doing 50 to 75% of the plays, then probably more guys get more will reps than they had because we need more will bodies. That's technically where sunnies started. But we'll rotate them through. Let the production kind of show what it does. And sometimes you know, you'll live with some mistakes just from doing a new spot, but you'll be able to judge too, like who's actually getting the book, you know what I mean, who's actually studying? How much of a great thing you've seen from sunnies this time of year, you know, through the national championship game. And then what's next for you? Man, I mean, definitely, I know, I know sunnies, big goals and you should. I do as well for him. To see how far he's come, you know, first thing kind of stands out is just like his,

3:47:07his footwork has gotten so much better. You know, when you're in the box of the linebacker, you gotta be able to, remember Luke Fickley said all the time, and you gotta be slow until it's time to be fast. And when you're twitchy like he is, a lot of times, you know, when you're about safety, you're used to pulling the trigger and rolling. You gotta learn how to shuffle and not cross over. And he got so much better as a year or not. I think a lot of people question whether he'd be able to hold up his Calvary wise and, you know, he was, he was great, you know, he's the season guy. He's really good with his hands. He's a really natural ability to snag. We'll keep challenging him. I think he should be a dominant guy in coverage. He needs to be a guy that we can put on a tight end and be like, he's not gonna be in the catch on the ball. You know what I mean? Because he has that athleticism. I think we need a challenge in there. I think everything is just, this is not just sunny, it's everybody's urgency in zone coverage. I mean, the urgency with the, you have to break on the football to close that space, the knot at the ball carrier have so much space on you to cut making this is critical.

3:48:09I think sometimes he's, he can do so athletic that you know, you can get away with some stuff. And he knows anything that I'm saying right now, hearing notes. So the best part is a lot of times like he'll come to me before film and already say like, man, coach on that play, you know what I mean? Like he knows. And the best part is that he's humble enough. Our whole problem is that they just want to be, they want to be pushed and they want to be coached. And so the big heck of a loss could be asked for, right? Like, I always ask like, what do you need for me? Just keep making sure like you're pushing it. You don't let me settle, don't let me settle. And so he's probably the best in the room at that. Do you look at sunny and arvelas and picking this kind of your top loose guys right now? I'm going to go to the football field. Yeah, I mean, I think going into it, you know, I think it's just accomplished the plan and whatever play was called, whatever it may be, just go out there and execute it. One thing we appreciate is execution is really the motive. You know, I didn't even be called, but as long as everybody's mindset is, has one mentality, which is just go get it

3:49:10and make sure there's no yard gain. I think that changes the mindset of everybody on the silver bullet defense. Did they feel like big changes to you all as they were ongoing? I mean, at first, like, you know, it was a tough loss. So, you know, as any of it felt like everything was big, but then when you kind of just take your time and look at everything and analyze everything, it was just like, man, we just need to keep everything simple. Make everything and just about us and, you know, not like feel like we're, you know, making everything about them. It's, you know, we can dictate what they do. And I think that was the mindset. Did it make Letterman Raw? Yeah, JT, I know you get to watch a little bit of video of Caleb and Nathan and Jordan. What stands out about that group from your vantage point? Oh, they're respected. They're relentless, man. I mean, Nathan, Caleb and, I mean, everybody in that BIA core, yes, they can cover, but, you know, when it's time to, you know, stop the run, they'll come down 12 yards out, however far after front line scribbers are coming, you know, throw the nose in there and I respect them for that,

3:50:12because, you know, there's gonna be times where we need them to make them tackles. And I mean, they're displaying it this whole season. Yeah, how critical are they in a game of this magnitude? Obviously, everybody's critical, but you're gonna mean that sort of the last line of defense, but sometimes the last line of defense is in the middle of it. Yeah, I mean, they play a huge role. I mean, like you said, it takes everybody from the front four. It's like a check reaction. The front four don't do their job, then, you know, it falls, you know, the back end. So we off to work as a collective unit. And I think there's a reason that there's 11 of us out there. And, you know, it's crazy. If one person does their job, then, you know, something can go wrong, but if we just all continue to stay, communication with one another, continue to just lay each other and then we have each other's backs and just trust one another. And, man, I think that performance is gonna be off the charts. Oh, for the right, Kelly-N. Stits, WSW. G-T, how would you describe the mentality of the defense right now getting this opportunity for Greenhouse and the Warden? Yeah, hungry and thankful. I mean, we know how the last time when, you know, we had a chip on our shoulder. I mean, we were riding high before that game and we took that loss

3:51:13and we came back how to make a couple changes. But I think we understand what, you know, everything's at stake right now, you know, just fighting to where another house stayed jersey for the next game. That's what's on stake. And just to be able to represent this state and this team. I mean, we understand what's on the line. And, you know, we're just hungry and blessed that we get this opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl. Right behind your Adam King, WBNS. What do you remember most about walking off the field in Eugene? What was kind of going through your mind in that moment? Yeah, just, I mean, there was a, I don't think anybody imagined it. Imagine us losing. You know, I didn't, that's for sure. And I think after that, it was kind of hit deep. But I understand it that man, we still, there's still a lot of ball left to be played. I mean, you can let it sting for a little bit, but, you know, if you let it carry over too long, then, you know, there, there goes, there goes your whole season. But I think we did a great job of just understanding, coming together in this room right here,

3:52:13not being afraid to display or hold accountability for one another. And, you know, as that happened, we came back, we grouped, and, you know, we're just going right now. And I'm just blessed for those specific moments, you know, losing. I mean, no one wants to lose, but the testimonies and the things are taught within those little situations speaks of all of them. Spatial over, Vladimir Drone. Jay, what did you see from Kenya? The last couple of weeks, was there like a push from him, and there were many conversations with him, and he seemed like he was playing since the first ball in Tennessee? Yeah, I mean, that's my boy. He's in the R2X club, too, but, you know, Kiyada, I mean, every time his numbers call, he goes out there and makes the most of it, no matter where we are in the game. When he goes out there, he's just hungry. He wants to go make plays, and, you know, we see it in practice, so it's not surprising to us. Bill Rebino, it's fun. It's this bad. Dylan gave us obviously very elusive and he's not very tall.

3:53:18How important it could be to just kind of stay in your past rush lanes and neglect a lot of balls and kind of make a difference that way? Yeah, I think it just comes out being disciplined. No one who you're playing against, like you said, Dylan, he's a, he's sure, but he's very elusive. I mean, he can, he is making throws. I mean, he get out the pike, he can do everything. So I think for us, we just have to discipline him. Just continue to just meet with Coach Jay, meet with the coach's nose and understand how we can just eliminate that. One question about you and Jack. I mean, your personality seems to be a little different. You're more on the quiet side. He's not. How about you play together four years, both five store guys, kind of describe your relationship with him, friendship with him, and just kind of how you cop with each other? Man, that's my brother, like he said. We're different, but very alike. I think outside, like you said, he's louder. I'm quiet, but once we're on that field, we're like the same person. We'll do anything for this team. We'll die for our players, and we'll give everything we got.

3:54:20Room together for four years, correct? Yeah, fall camps. Every room. Yeah, sometimes go over there. So go over there. There's the neat one who's the messing one. We have our share of days when I'm neat. He's neat. We might both be messy, but we do a good job. Yeah, I'd probably say I'm a better coach, Jack though. Tony Gertman, like I held. When you're playing a team for the second time, and that was almost a season to go by now, how much of a square one with this scouting preparation or how much do you take in that game? How much do you avoid taking so that you don't have any creative signals to what you're going up against offense on the offense playing? I say it's pretty 50-50. I mean, that game, like you said, was a while ago, but at the same time, they elevated as a team. So did we. So we understand that they made some changes, for sure. There's a certain tendency we can take back from that game, but we also understand that they went on a little run after that, and we can see that they elevated as a offense.

3:55:22So we just got to continue to watch those games, dissect the other games, and just continue to see what stands out and what they changed from the past game. We got a couple calls on Zoom that we'll wrap up with. First, we have Nick Hamilton from Nightcast Media. Nick? I just wanted to ask you basically about the synergy of this defense and how you guys were able to not only celebrate the triumphs but get through the adversity to be able to be this top-notch defense that you are in college football today. Here, you have to question one more time. No problem. One to ask you about the synergy you are were able to develop over the course of the season, obviously celebrating the triumphs, but also getting through the adversities to where you are all the top-notch defense that you are today. Yeah, I mean, like you said, we went through a lot of trials to trials, but there's also, there's a lot of things we can take away from all the wins and losses. And from those wins, we understood that, hey,

3:56:23we can be the best defensive country. And from those losses, we understand that there's still things that need to be fixed. And I think when you take all that in, at once, that comes out to the common goal or the common target, which is, there's always learning points everywhere. And depending how we dissect those games or how we just continue to come as one and elevate, we continue to just collect all those learning points and just continue to grow from them. And one final question. Joey Coppin, Columbus Dispatch. Joey? JT, what have you guys done better in the Tennessee game and just late in the season, you think about turning some of the pressures that you've got on quarterbacks and the sacks and getting home in some of those situations? Yeah, I think it was more just understanding the defense as a whole, understanding everybody's job. I think as the season went on, we had to understand that, we have to know what's going on in the backhand. We have to know what's going on to rely back recruit to understand what plays we have room of freedom.

3:57:27And I think once we understood that and got a better understanding of everybody's job, I mean, it showed this play because everybody knows what each other's doing. It's not like the linebacker know what they're doing. The corners and B.I., they know only their job. I think we all know each other's job and we continue to ask each other questions on if they're blitz and how they can get to the quarterback and if I'm dropping and playing quarterbacks back and as Cody on how to open field tackle it. So we just kind of lean on each other's understanding because like I said, Denzel knows how to play corner-bedded and I know how to play corner. So he has more wisdom at that position than I do. JT, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, man. More and more. Can health similar will you role be in terms of playing what you did in Denver? I don't know that. Yeah, I kind of just mentioned previously. I don't know my role. I don't know the engine out yet. Once we will get through the protocols and NFOPA, we'll talk about the schemes and everything.

3:58:28Great. Hello, sir. Welcome. When you were in Denver in the three-four, where did you find your self-most comfortable and most effective in Waterloo? I played a lot of different positions in Denver. I mean, early in my year, I played zero. I played three, two, one. I mean, I definitely more comfortable in a shaded position, mainly being a three-technique and five-technique. That's why I found myself to be more comfortable whether I'm standing up or not, whether it's runner or pass. Those seem to be my best fits. And what is your impression of Pete Carroll's defense and whole environment in Seattle from afar? From afar, it seems like he holds in on a defense a lot. I can't really say too much about that. Yeah, I don't know. I know Pete Carroll very little. So I'm just trying to figure out more. And I'll give you a better answer later. What's the reputation around the league? Around the C-Harm? You know, hard-knows, hard-hat type of team. Definitely on a little more lack side, as opposed to being a stuck-up or military style.

3:59:30Which is definitely good because this program is one of a lot of football games. It's been super-excessive for many years. As long as I've been alive, as long as I've been watching football. And, definitely, this has been a good program. And Pete Carroll has been a hell of a coach for a long-distance member, who's been working in his college days. So I'm looking forward to experiencing that. Tell him, while? Yeah, Drew, I know you said you don't know yet what your role is going to be. But what kind of player are you that you don't understand who haven't watched the coming of then? But what kind of player does he have to get? Definitely a high motor. Definitely not a one-trick-pointer type of player. I like to attack. Whether it's a first step or a first to move forth now. I like to attack. I'm always trying to apply pressure. I'm definitely just a high motor guy, my opinion. Maybe. Are they already understant for me? Yes, Ben. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Yeah, this is not a team that really makes big splash sign-in in Bragency. Did you think going into it that Seattle would be in play?

4:00:32No, not at all. It's kind of like being a kid at the candy store here. You know, got a whole bunch of different options coming at you. You're hearing a whole bunch of different crazy things. And, you know, you only get to choose one. And this is the place that we both chose each other. And, I mean, I'm loving Seattle so far. I like these colors. What, why did you have to do in Seattle and see some season here? Not much. Just kind of just drive around the city exploring, get down to the market a little bit. I want to get on the Ferris wheel, do some more like touristy type things, you know. I'm new to the city and I got a lot to learn about the city. Larry? Yeah, there's been a lot of comparisons with you, the Michael Bennett. I'm wondering if you know Michael Bennett at all and if you think those are actually... I know Michael Burr, Bennett, like, I don't know nothing about it. But, besides his style of play. But I'm honored to be considered and it's the same conversation as him. And a style of play, you know, he's a Hall of Fame type of deep lime. And that I've known about since I was a kid. I mean, last time he played here, I was in high school. So, you know, it's cool to...

4:01:33It kind of came full circle a little bit watching him on TV. And now I'm being kind of compared to him in a way, you know. I mean, I'm not touching the surface of Michael Bennett, you know, he's a Hall of Famer. And I'm not there yet. So, you know, I just have to keep doing my due diligence to be a better player. Carmen? Hey, Dream out. Welcome to Seattle. I know you get to play several seasons for Vic Fangio in the three, four style defense. And Seattle's playing a similar system now to the back to last year. Has the defensive line been one of the things that is most important to be successful in that system? Maybe fundamentals or just playing style to be successful? From what I learned, being gap sound and being patient has always been the biggest thing. And that's how we've been successful when I was in Denver. Just kind of like relying on each other. I know that sounds kind of cliche, but like this kind of like the realm of being in a three-four defense. You got to really rely on the guys behind you and the guys on the side of you to really make their... to do their job to make your job easier.

4:02:33Bob? Yeah, Dream up. You're a Ohio State player. You didn't start playing football to junior high school. You didn't like to play basketball until then. Just what made you know I get to play football and was that a hard decision? All the kind of people away from basketball? No, no, I've always loved football first. It was just kind of just I was just playing it out. You know, I love to hoop, but you know football was definitely about calling and giving I was 265 pounds. I was like six, three, three, three, so you know I kind of chose to route that guy gave me. I'm not six eight. Yeah. Yeah. You've been voted. You just talked a little bit about that. I think that some of you said you know, you might wait more on that. Um, just from a standpoint, like I always get like over overshadowed over look,

4:03:35whether it's uh, and something, you know, saying like. I feel like I do a lot more than what can be seen by the eyes of the inexperienced, you know scout. And I do a lot of different dynamic things that help make place for others. You know, I'm definitely an active player. I'm always doing something whether in a run or pass game. So, you know, I think that goes on notice sometimes. And I'm looking forward to playing people on notice. Brady. What, uh, what do you like to do outside of football? What is Premier High School? I'm a big gamer. Um, I'm definitely, I'm, I'm beginning to a lot of chess lately. So I just expand my brain. I'm trying to get into reading, but if it's not supported related, I really not interested in reading that much, but mainly just video gaming in chess. And then when we write and say your name, do you prefer gray or gray? Uh, I mean, you can say, you can say Dremont Jones, I mean, but like just, I'm like personally just call me Dre because it's easy because people like to f my name,

4:04:35like a lot. And they call me Dremont. I don't know why you put a Dremont, tell you my name or Dremont T, whatever you want to say. I was going to go by Dre to keep it simple. Thank you. Michael Sean. Hey Dre, what's specifically you bring to the C-HARF as a pass question? Uh, some of the new era of the pass question, you know, someone who's on a little, a little lighter side of the average through technique and bringing that explosiveness, that quickness, uh, someone who's great with their hands, someone who's very stingsual. And someone who's a go getter when it comes to the run-and-pass game. Appreciate it. Thank you. John Boyle. Yeah, Dre, John Shedder said after the trade, or after the signing, that you actually got eight, they wanted him to trade last year, the Russell of the trade, but Denver said no. It was that second time you were aware of it all. Yeah, I was aware. I mean, like, shit. They'd be flattered if they wanted to be even like that. Yeah, I am flattered. I mean, shit, they should have just traded me from the jump. But it was cool to, I guess, a kind of came full circle for Seattle a little bit.

4:05:37I was including to the trade and Denver said no. And then Denver kind of, I don't want to say that word, but Denver didn't pay my part of respect. So I'm here because they respect me from the jump. All right, anything else, guys? Thank you. Whatever things do, and we're all learning. So it's been really good. How much were you talking to Kay as you got here? And kind of going through that first year? Obviously he's doing his own thing, but just what this is all about? Yeah, I think having him go through the whole process has been a big thing. Kind of having him in my corner just to talk to him or call him whenever I need. We still talk a lot, and I asked him questions whenever. So a lot of first got here, he was still here in the training and everything, but he had a fail. I have him whenever I still was in the training. What's it like watching him now in the NFL with the Texans? He's got not seen, you know, pretty well doing,

4:06:37and living out his dreams. Yeah, no, it's going to be a great habit for him. He's down there in Houston, you know, he was CJ and everything. I think he really likes it. So I'm excited to see what he does this next coming year. Just how different your team is? You're really different. You know, you're going to have to be a college student, be a couple, and that and all of a sudden, just under this feeling, and not necessarily just the neighborhood that goes into the community. Yeah, I think you kind of realize that, you know, this is, you know, this is your life, you know, you've got to, you know, come in here and play a high state, playing with the best ever since the day. You know, you've got to put the time in, you know, you've got to make sacrifices, you know, to what you want to get out of it in the end. You know, along the fight, you know, school just, you know, live on your own. You know, it's, it's good for you to teach us a lot. And, you know, as you did, it just makes you better overall. You graduate from here, what you do, you have got like Riley and Peter Andrew you, and you look up to, you know, guys, you know, like, they've got to pick that role now. But you have got to, you know, what kind of players and players you don't even have to do off the A to D grow, or those guys, you know.

4:07:38Yeah, I mean, just kind of, you know, just shown the way around this building, you know, just, you know, how, how we do it here at the high state, how we operate. You know, they've, you know, I think all three young guys coming in have done a great job. You know, they've, you know, great work ethic. You know, I think, you know, for me, you know, the offseason, it was more like a lead by example, kind of thing, and sprinkle a little bit of, you know, vocal leadership in there as well. But, you know, just kind of work with them and, you know, kind of showing them how, you know, build a guy's and how we do things in the room is, you know, definitely carried on to that. Being a part of that championship round last year, I guess, what did you learn from that one thing went on? You guys went on that, I guess, what do you learn about what it takes for us to do? I would just say, you know, staying together, you know, our biggest thing was each week was just trying to keep that group together each week. And, you know, I think last year we had such a strong bond together, you know, with all the guys, I think that was really the motivation, you know, just staying together

4:08:41and like a band of brothers. James has talked down the past. I think you have decided in our village, you know, kind of made that two deep. But James has talked to the past, and that's your play, well, you're making plays consistently. You're going to play playing, you know, you're going to have a fresh, you're going to have a fresh, you're going to have a fresh, you know, you're not going to long, so the guys are going to use your best in the play. You're going to have to do a little bit of just a little bit of just a little bit of what you're doing. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, just starts with, you know, coming out of the practice every day, you know, they're head down, just making sure you're going hard, having a school play, you know, knowing what you're doing, you know, so you can build that trust. But I think, you know, just having the guys around, you know, like Sonny, Harvail, Payton, you know, you know, who's, you know, been in there, you know, playing in games, everything like that, you know, to lean on and ask some questions and stuff. So, so you're ready. Where you said that was like, you know, like 227. What's the goal for Fortinfall and how to roll? It's still 225 right now, but I think it'll come up to like 238. So, I think it'll get a little more great in the virtual.

4:09:42Appreciate it. You saw that, do you feel a sense of urgency to the part of that 2D to provide depth, or maybe more than that this season, how do you go into your 2D? Yeah, I mean, I think all right now, kind of focus on it, just getting better some day. And what it's kind of what it springs for is, you know, individually just, you know, continue to perfect your craft every single day. For that second week, or you know, ski board, every week. But, uh, but yeah, I mean, I think that's, you know, definitely, you know, something in my head, you know, obviously, you know, came here and played. So, I think that's definitely a big thing. I think just saying I had the chance and getting past those third downs, converting on those third downs, I mean, that's what we got to be better at. Um, within the day, we got to put him in zone. We're not doing that. We're not doing our job. So, are you guys creating more explosive plays? That's an offensive. Right. I think you stick with it. Um, you know, the explosive plays are going to come and, you know, we just got to trust that.

4:10:42And they'll be there for us for sure. Coach Sins has been here for, uh, high as and lows over the many, many years. He's been with this program now. What sort of his message to your group right now, or when you're turning to him, what, what is he saying as far as how to get through this? Yeah, so I think it's just really just coming and attacking every day as you would, um, regardless. And, uh, you know, staying, staying even, even through hardship and attacking it, attacking it the same way every day. Um, that's really all you can do. And, uh, you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you. Based on the way things are already we're setting up, but then also the way, um, Jason Simmons was calling the game on Saturday. It seemed like tight ends are going to be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out. And what, what role do you think you guys are going to have in trying to get this offense? Yeah, I think we, I think the role is always try to help the offense move the ball. And, um, whether they were called upon to do that in the past game or the run game, where he's got to step up and do our job at a high level and, uh, whatever he asked from us,

4:11:42we just got to do it at high level and let the offense go. You're some of the leaders on the offense. Some of the leaders, I would say Gus is a big leader. I mean, he's been doing it for a while and I, and it's someone that everyone trust, um, is going to do his job at a high level. And, um, I think we have, uh, Hudson's a good leader too as well. Um, obviously he's a quarterback, so he takes on that leadership role. And, um, I think we just have a good amount of leaders, uh, you know, throughout the offense. We were told George might be fairly close to getting back what we mean to get him back in the mix with the tight ends. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, George is a great athlete, so having him out there can only help. Um, you know, we're really excited about him and what you can do on the field, so it'd be great. They don't care about that up here. So, you know, it's, it's developing yourself to have a great mindset early, you know, having that grown man mindset at 18 years old. It's, it's really important because a lot of people don't really care about feelings.

4:12:42So it's about, you know, just coming up here, you know, being a man that you think you are, you know, having to go out there and, you know, prove it. David, what's been the easiest thing and the most difficult thing about your transition years so far? Uh, the easiest thing, I would say, I mean, it's really not easy about this, you know, coming to a top program, I'd say, you know, especially coming off an national championship, it's really not easy, you know, they're pushing for the same thing and they're trying to go back and back. So I mean, we just got to come up here, we got to, we got to step up. Uh, but the hardest thing I would say, you know, just, just having to grow up, you know, going from high school where, you know, I've been the man there for three years. So I mean, coming up here where you started the bottom again. So I mean, I told my parents all the time, like, you know, I think my history is repeating itself because when I went into high school, the high school, I went to her a part house. So I was at the bottom there and had to work my way up. And I feel like that's just repeating self here. Now I'm at the bottom here, you know, I put myself at the bottom. So I have to work my way up to the top. And so, you know, just going to get these guys, they're competing every day. You're not going to get a day off where, you know, she was just coming out here and just, just be essence.

4:13:43So I mean, you got to be in your peace and cure all the time. When you see what a guy like Jay, go ahead. Sorry, David keeps getting. When you see what a guy like Jay, Jay did last year coming in here playing immediately, is that inspired you to want to be able to do the same thing as a freshman? I mean, definitely, you know, just what he did last year is a true freshman. You know, him being able to play an impact team like that. Obviously, I want that for myself. So, you know, I'm going to push myself to that limit, you know, try to be on the field here when that's my plan. That's the biggest reason I came here because I have an opportunity to play year one. So, me having that opportunity is good. And, you know, I'm always going to come out here and compete. Like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom. So I'm working, I'm going to work every day like I'm at the bottom. And I got to get to the top. How, what do you feel like it's going to take for you to get from the bottom to the top? You know, just discipline. They're big on discipline here and, you know, competitive and excellent. So, it's just staying consistent every day. Just doing the right, having little to none, mental errors.

4:14:43That's going to give me on the field. And, you know, I do what I'm supposed to do. That's going to give me on the field. How do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one, what season comes around? How do you manage people based on that? You know, I don't really let it get to my head because, you know, like I'm here. You know, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like I just think, you know, he's going to be a three-year star. I got your main personal American, you know, he's going to play it shit too. So, I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year. But, you know, I actually got to prove it. So, I actually got to come out here, you know, work, you know, and that spot. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing every day. That's the biggest thing. Having to compete, you know, these guys appear. They take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first week up here when we did our competitions, you know, I was winning, did I actually, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes to like, these guys take it to heart when they lose. They don't like it.

4:15:43So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that, you know, CFP Ron. What did you learn from JustBose few weeks seeing this team make that run? You know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. You know, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. They don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, um, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in. They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle Luke? Uh, you handle that first loss? Uh, that first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was, it was the IGB. Uh, you know, he, you know, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. It's because it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose appearance.

4:16:44Nah, if you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're gonna see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go, going there and lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen anymore, you know. So, I got to grow up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's, it's really important that I don't lose. If you had to describe yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? Uh, I'm, I'm a great competitor, you know, I like winning. Uh, who doesn't like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. Uh, you know, my parents taught me that, uh, at a young age, you know, going after competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go after it to compete for, you know, as yours. And if you can compete for it all the time, who's gonna take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm, I'm always gonna go after that, try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm gonna be the one that's gonna get it. There's some role-makers in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What would turn that for? Uh, yeah, I mean, it could come out on, you know, but I don't really, I really know my game through the talking, uh, for, for this part. Um, but, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out because, you know, regardless, I'm not just gonna let nobody just come out here and just, you know,

4:17:45catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting T.B.U.s, yeah, I'm gonna talk, uh, but, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk, you know, to get to the gym, you got IGB, you know, those, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when, when you bring that out, they just bring it to energy out and hold defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see, you can see what happened. Is there anyone that's kind of, what's competition you're at? It's, uh, it was during the winter. We were doing, uh, you know, just, just stuff on the field. We was just, just, just having the time of the field. Uh, just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against, just, just freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of like, we all kind of can't get that, the freshman group, like, what are we going to do about this? Cause, you know, some of their kind of, just to, to step up in those roads. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely my work in college moments. You know, you know, just, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a metal high-oh-state.

4:18:46Uh, I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm wearing my school, um, far from my family. You know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple times. How did, you know, grow it up very in Texas, playing at that level. How do you feel like that helped you prepare for Ohio State? Uh, I feel like you prepared good, you know, I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area, you know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. Uh, we live just like these guys who do the same lifts. Uh, you know, the level of ball I play, the highest level ball in the Texas 6A, you know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, no crowded, those top schools, you know, received the Korean War against them. I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those, that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where, this is, it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact, because, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest, highest-play bars in the country, you know, they go as Florida and they're probably Georgia.

4:19:52So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against the Korean War? Uh, you know, it was, it was when, when lose, when lose, you know, I went some, he lost some. So I mean, it's, it's, it's just, it's just getting better, I'm sharp and high, because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously in our class, you know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at Oregon. So, I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, uh, just, you know, what's going to happen next? Looking forward to seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. And you know, I plan on planning against him. Uh, we don't, we won't see him this year, hopefully we'll see him in the big team in the championship, so, you know, I, I want, I want, uh, I want that rematch, man. W, you committed super early in the process six months after that, you shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that, but you chose to not do that. It's kind of a lot getting here. Why? Uh, you know, because this was, this was, this was what I felt, this was home. Uh, you know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing, Texas was a good thing for me. Uh, I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me.

4:20:52Uh, a peer I just felt like it was home, you know, because of all, because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, you can ask, cause what, uh, how many times I came up here, uh, throughout my high school career, I came up here 13 times. So we got to the point where I was knowing guys on the team that I had the numbers just like that. And I come up here, you know, I don't got to always be with the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So it was just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to play my college ball at, you know, knowing what I felt, uh, like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm healing the business and not having to worry about me. And she goes to sit. I've been practicing at four of you and I think it's in the other room, that's the dish stand. Uh, Coach Hardline in the room, uh, Coach Droner in step up and he's helping us out. Everything he's a big help. And I just like make sure we stand time for my stuff. We're just talking about stepping into a big role of the slime. How much do you watch the violin that every day try and take things, whether it's preparation, stuffy those on the field, you know, just learning from a violin that every time I watch them, I want to.

4:22:01So I just, so I have to take some of this game and add it to my hand, Bryson Rogers too. I take some of this. All the receivers. Uh, yeah, they always help me out on any of the groups. There's lots of life walking into this room to the civility and tired of staying with all the history of a new already smiling. I mean, you know what it means to be a part of this room. Yeah, it's a big step. Uh, definitely, it definitely holds a lot like a shoulder. So you gotta, you gotta, you gotta take a quick. It's definitely a big dream for my, you gotta have a big deal on, uh, I'm blessed to be here. You won that. Yeah, that's why you come. Yeah, that's why you come. Yeah. What's the next thing I'm advice you've got from some of the workers that has already even before spring wall started to talk to the Mecca, some of those guys are strong. Uh, like, try not to take everything personally. Like, I'll say, like, when you know time will come, when you're making comments, I make that play. And I've been looking forward to every day and I'm spending a playbook because I still gonna get you to find their life and find that in this game.

4:23:05Yeah, like, yeah. As you got back, you was the guy who ever weighed these last two years to really get this out of your pocket. How much is patient to requirement to obviously get off the field? But how much is patient to report to the child? I'm not everybody has the same amount. So some people always have a written term, but you just got a, like I said, a little time. You just got to make that play. And it's gonna go off from here. Thank you.

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4:25:39So, I can answer this. What's going to be like for you between California and being out of the tournament? This is going to spoil a lot of people. I hope you can just put it on. Yeah, just put it on. Yeah, just put it on. It's different being out of state with food here. There's the one you were just going to put the long, the other way. Yeah, it's definitely different. So, it's five years. New generation of recruits where I don't think anybody outside looking at you in real questions is the strength of your commitment. Like, you're locked in the last eight and you send it over and over. But, you're making visits around the country. You see other schools. It's almost a totally different mindset. What's that? How do you approach those other visits? And how do you communicate with Ohio State about them? It's been the message that you've got. I'm going to give it a kiss. I'm just like, oh, I'm always locked in. I'm still enjoying the process. I'm doing this. It's only having one time.

4:26:39I'm assuming you enjoy it. So, other schools outside of life. Yes, maybe really hard to try to give it a flip. It's so high of state. It's where I want to be. What is it that made you want to take comes with us? Yeah, I'm not going to put out one specific thing. I'm going to need a kill guy. I'm going to find yourself in the first three. Do you get frustrated in moments like that in the both-time? Definitely. A little bit of both. Obviously, I just wanted the team to win. I think we got a chance to win. Definitely towards it. And then it stretched out last drive. I was a couple of plays here. A couple calls that he made me should have gotten. But, I think the frustration and more so it just comes from. You know, wanting to win more or anything. You have to go right away from the defense. How about you? Yeah, definitely. We maybe killed them. We were one of the ones kind of how the game playing with set up. You didn't have a lot of different coverage. I had a lot of cloud to my side. I just kind of had the game go.

4:27:39What's the process been in the election times? We're whatever reason. Just to see that. Yeah, definitely. Especially in college, a lot of the game friends defensively were taking the away. You know, we had a lot of success. We were one of the ball having different weapons. They kind of still get the victories. And I was, you continue to do better jobs when I hear. A lot of communication in the process has been like post game. Getting on the same page with Kyler. You guys exchanged text or you guys getting the film? Yeah, film. Definitely. Kind of asking what did I see there. Kind of go over and play. And I just kind of give him what I saw. And I just kind of get back there. Change words. Mark, I get it. Mark, I get it. Mark, we're asking questions about the previous game. Are you the type of guy to let a game like that winger or how do you flush it? You got to move on. Got to move on. Some long season guy. 16 more of them.

4:28:39Hopefully, no, I can stay healthy throughout the year. And just continue to build and get better each week. You guys did so much work throughout the off season to get on the same page. How different is it when you get into that regular season? Once you go out there, put practice and get pads on. You do like the point practice we do with the colds. But there's nothing like actually going out there in live action. And really trying to be on the same page. So I think that would really should continue to develop. Is that it just a matter of roughs then? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Like I said, that was kind of my first live action together. So continue with. When you're early impressions on your time on the field together. And when it increases with cows? Yeah, but now obviously I have a death respect. You know, JG's call or preseason. And obviously be all feel really healthy. That's kind of the most important thing. And obviously that's all healthy even going forward. So. Marvin, were you early impressions of the Rams? What do you think of the Rams? Yeah, I mean, they're a good team. They're good physical team. I got a new lot of new guys up front, I think.

4:29:39That's kind of where they're strong suit is. Kind of a little different to Buffalo. Personally, when the belts did give you one of my opportunities. How do you feel today? Wasn't many of them. Wasn't many of them. So, I thought I needed to. I'm just what you think versus just playing. You know, not getting a preseason game action. I think it's the first three. Definitely, definitely thinking a lot out there. And I think I'll come with reps. I think to think and less, you just going out there and playing. Definitely come with reps. And it's something you're on, you better at. You can say I was thinking a lot out there. Is there anything you can do to prove that? That's for the coverage. Anything you can do to the past? You're going to face that a lot out there. Yeah, I mean, you just got to team, get open for yourself. Make yourself available. And when the ball does, get away and making the play. This, he can just take the new way. That means other guys are having a chance to get open. So, that's how kind of how I look at it. It's no longer a season of offense. That's the best thing of course. That continuity with Tyler.

4:30:39I'm going to make it. Hopefully sooner or later, I think. I'll continue to see. I don't think we're in a bad place right now at all. Obviously, I don't really think that. But just a live rep, so we'll continue to grow and show. It's a lot about life. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's helping us. Like, saying what coach Gianco is what? Everything's not like it's about ball with them. It's about like, focus on how do you become a better man? A better player individually. One player. You're interception extensive. How much did that help you, Thomas, while he's heading into Chris Neck's season, kind of trying to push first job? Is that like a confidence booster for you? I mean, I'll say it was a confidence booster. One reason I'll say that, because you get like good coaches who believe in you. And like, they give you the tools to go out there and just play with confidence. And you're not out there doubting yourself. Like, you got your teammates who got your back. Like, my first play when I got up there to the seat. Like, when you're in a jail, you got IGB in a germane. Like, first thing they say is like, no, where you just go out there and play with confidence. You know, you know the tools, it's usual tools. It's just go out there and make a play.

4:31:39And where about a play coming to you? You know, where does your time and show job? I mean, just do it. And then like, the same one coach wants. Like, he gives me, he puts me in a position like, like the drills we put in, the work we put in, the one on one, so I just go out there and just push on at the highest level. How much better are you right now than maybe last month? I mean, I got way better just because I've transitioned a little bit to the inside. I'm like, now I'm actually trying to catch, catch, take me again is. And often, cover is not always pressed at the line. So it's like, now I'm able to like move my feet, move my hands, like, see, like what I got to do. Just like, just in case I got to go back in corner, I can, I plan off now. I'm very confident out there. Do you think that that was a natural fifth of you or have you had the kind of convince yourself to transition around? I mean, I feel like it's natural for me because I feel like me individually. I'm a fast learner. I'm a fast learner. Like coaches help us like learn fast. Like, because they're always honest about the techniques and stuff. So you like, you write down, like you pick up on all the things and then like, when we get out here, they coach us to like the techniques.

4:32:40So we used to go out there and play like fast spot. And it would have like, like, versatile, you were able to go out there and just compete. Is that where you kind of stuff this spring or do you get kind of bounced there? So I'm really been stuck there this spring a little bit, but like whenever we get us like other things, I just bounce out there every once in a while. Just like, just have fun. See if I still got it every once in a while. So it's as good as to go out there to compete at most spots. You mentioned the technique. What technique, you know, tips and things that you had to pick up and learn from coach walking from the beginning to the end. I mean, this is always like, you're like, because what? Preaches are asking hands. Like, see it. You see it. Move your feet. And then you hit your hand with your hands on the mat. So it's like, when you feel like, when you out there, you're able to like, the process, like the way the receiver comes off the ball, looking at the hips and seeing like the way he moves. And are you able to pick up like the row concepts you can get out of that? Like, so it's being like under coach walking, like as a player and just like him breaking out football to you like, one on one, it's like very beneficial. What was the hardest part of making that transition from outside inside?

4:33:44I really say like, you know, cornering, you got to cover two, you cover three, eight to cover one. It's easy, but you got nickel. There are so many responsibilities you got to see like the row concepts. You got to be able to process like, dying those rows faster than what you got to do in a corner and just be able to like, everything's quid like a transition. You got to like, you got to move fast. You got to learn to move fast. It's like game recognition where you think maybe from the most since you got to. I would definitely say, I would definitely say yes because, because when you get to like college, it's a little bit different. High school, we don't got to worry about things like that. When you get to like college in a school like this, like your recognition of plays and like your loyal jobs, the way like the coverage is supposed to be played. I understand all your teammates are supposed to get what you feel. It's like it gets easier. What have you got to do in the past? It's a very talented, it's a great, it's a humble, it's a humble guy, great teammate, very supportive, it's like God that you don't want to run because you can feed off your energy

4:34:45because you can see like, when you make a play, he's like, IGB, it's like IGB 2.0 so he's like, when you get off there with guys like that with good energy, it's made you play a little bit harder and it's like, when you make a play, he's out there, it's helping you, it's being out there with him, he's a good player. One of those guys, first question, can't fool kids, I would say obviously over the last few years. So, it's probably serious. Now, what is it about one build that gets you to play at a high school? It's a big question, I know. The other one is just such a performance, because we have so many kids come out of Glebil and just play at Leeds, like elite schools, and they like, like, track's a big part of it because I mean, it's really good actually in a Glebil, everybody got to run a track like it's mandatory, you don't really get a choice. You able to just like get out here and like know how to compete, and then like, gee, like, game builds that mental toughness into you. So, like, have you like, have you got to be mentally tough because you have a life. Life's not going to be easy, so it's like being out here, being able to compete,

4:35:46and when you down, just pick yourself back up, I mean, that's a being, it's down to me, that's a being. That's a being. I'm going to play here forever, you know what I mean? I was talking about his plans. So, you know, you was just transitions like one of those fairy tales, like, to your time now. But again, either way, you know, we talk about it, you know, that's the Togo's, you know, but obviously, you know, he's, he's, happy, he's been one of the biggest players. Again, I think everybody leads in their own way, you know, and not everybody's the, bro, guys, come around, let's go. Like, that's not everybody, right? Like, I think for me, that's me specifically on game day, with the O-line after we do a little more, like, that's my, like, what I'm doing, like, that's my, like, big, vocal time, I feel, like, I'm talking about this, you know, just recently, talking about how,

4:36:46what I want to do for the Rums, I want to bring that hump energy, the Hebrew, right? So, last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, and happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I only have to focus on me, you know, I didn't have to make sure other, other guys, you know, feel some type of way when they came in here, because hump brought that. I mean, I'm a hump's nut here, but I saw a winged bit for a room, I want to be that guy to make sure I want to amptical to practice everybody's, I want to take a new team on period, you know, until the low day, or something, you know, it's a, but like, I want to make it feelin' humps, I'm like, yeah, pairs, the trick. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other, we would have each other do something to do, but we'd walk, we're flit. So I want to do that, I want to bring that energy, I want to make bring more guys, you know, to do that, you know?

4:37:48I want to do that from day one, you know. I kind of, I want to do that from day one, just talking to him, and obviously it's that time I spent, obviously it's a before-o-t-a-started, just being in my self-esteem about what the room needs. You know, because I know, I knew we were all as one of the leaders, you know, on our offense, is that we need a guy like that, that is going to make sure the O-line is picked up, we're ready to go every day, I want to help a couple little things, I'm having a practice of people and saying anything, and how I believe, maybe different than somebody else may believe, you know, I like to practice, at least, like, the legal positivity, you know what I mean? So, but, he, the energy I would be on, just like, height of the beyond, so I kind of, I want to be going on, really my whole life, I want to get out of the NFL, team captain, like, specifically,

4:38:48and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school, wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke, I was in high school, so I feel like I'm not going to be a captain to like, is that I felt. Yeah. But that would be awesome, you know? But, you know, if it happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys, on a team visual work, and get back in that work. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that, I felt like I was used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first ALTAs to train and left and right, once this season ended, because I don't know what it was going to be. So, I think a lot of, you know, grips just to give back to feeling, like myself, for the ALTAs, and then I'll, first of all, but now, like, today specifically,

4:39:48just changing some small things with my feet, as they talk about O'Connor, some things I can do with my feet, to get to sell that traditional angle that I love to sit on, and I thought I felt, I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better, so I need more excites tomorrow. Now, I'm getting my feet back, and how I like the right side, and I'm on the left side, so I'm excited. I mean, obviously, I feel like, in the league, whether I left or right, you're still going against Premier Guys, so obviously, you have high expectations for your left hand or right tackle, but there's definitely, like, the level of energy, and the expectations definitely take an enhanced back, because now, tonight, it applies, like, that's the, as the tackle role, you know, so, yeah, I would say, in terms of communication, as far as, even outside of the facility, you just stuff like that, like, really creating that, but tackle quarterback, and bond even more off the field, I think, has been something that's,

4:40:48even the cool, I mean, I got the text one day, because I, thank you for your left, I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I, I asked after the season, they're like, honestly, you know, we'll talk to you, simply in the season, and I just got a text, and I'm like, having what happens with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know, what, I had an old season right tackle, so, if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle, I'm just doing what I did before, I'm build on that, but I was like, I might as well as, I was trying to left tackle now, as if I'm going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that, than training all the right time, we're going to call it, we're going to be left tackle, I'm like, I didn't switch my feet yet. You know what I mean? So, I'm like, let me just prepare an advance, and I'll say, yeah, it's gone. You know, I think, occasionally, on third down, there would be a lot of twists, that I was just not like, it's automatic, and I think, that was my mindset for like, the first half of the season, like, I didn't have to go to a game with some pros,

4:41:48like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured, okay, like, this is the type of rush, I mean, again, this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how the end is, like, the rush, you know, tackles that, first year guys, we got the premier patch on, already, you know, what it was going to be, already, you know, every step. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so, you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twist on my side again. It was never air-doll, but they come out the most, like, three plays in the world, and in two minutes, I knew that, I knew that, and so I let them, you know what I mean? So I'm watching more everybody else, and you really, you know, it goes out there, occasionally, I'll throw it down, I was like, you know, he's going to pick me. You know what I mean? So, that effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way, but it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the, hardest look, you know, so those are real, real reps, you know, the things, really, on our way to kind of process,

4:42:48and I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know, but I'm just going to train it. I was training all the left, so TAs, I guess, if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I would have came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training, both continue, I would have been cool with training, both continually, but I feel like, anybody, any position will be like, okay, like, you want to, as soon as possible, give your feet, kind of, settle down, your hips, settle down, so then, a certain kind of, what, would it have been harder to work both during TAs? No. No. But, they're definitely, but in terms of the development, they're definitely a lot faster to stay on one side, but I think having that, the weeks that we had to transition with seasons over, I'd like to respond. You know, good, good, good trying to eat up, put them on the ground and weak things out of town right now, but when he comes back,

4:43:48I'm going to show him the only house. So I've got a house not too far from, so I told him, I got that house, like, I got a yellow outside, like DJ. You know what I mean? So, yeah. Communication with the team. You know, I was communicating with guys left and right, you know, front office, closest teammates, and all I care about is how I am with my teammates. I don't want them to ever think I don't care about them or how I'm not in it. And, you know, you can say whatever you want about me besides that, but I always dedicate anything I can to them. And I don't want that to ever be a question. I just said that it felt like sometimes you were hold up somewhere watching film, you texted me, you said you missed this, or you want to tweak that? Well, like the first day, he was batting all of Russ's passes, so I had to let him know. You know, you got to take advantage of that, you got to make sure guys are, you know, know that you still care and you still want to be a part

4:44:49of this. You know, just watch and practice. There's a couple of little things we're doing different, whether I'm communicating with Gumbarr or other people. You know, so be it. So you're also talking with him and you give him pointers during the offseason, just a constant communication. How do you see who grows a person, you know, in part of how he's approaching things and how he's getting ready for this season? From the beginning, you know, I think the thing with Keanu is he's more comfortable, you know, it's not his first time around the track. You know, it's actually like he can, you know, catch his feet under him. You know, I always think, when you're in your rookie season, you're going from bowl game, I don't even know Wisconsin playing a bowl game. Sorry, Wisconsin. I don't even know, but, you know, personally, I just think, when you go from bowl game to training for the combine to, you know, rookie game, OTAs, you know, many can, I mean, to train a can, the regular season, you really don't get a time to really catch yourself. You know, you understand

4:45:49it's a playbook now. You can be more vocal. You know, I think, with my absence, the other guys' absence, you know, you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. So, the surgery you had, you know, the same you had during the season was a more thorough what we, just tightened down everything. You know, my left side, because I was over-competing a little bit. But, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that lingers, you know. I'll say this, a groin's not like an ACL. It's not like anything's ever going to get affected again. And, you know, feeling good, able to do everything, squat and heavy, with power and speed. So, you know, it feels good to get after it. You know, I think, what the team was able to accomplish it, and you know, you know, you know, I think they're all good acquisitions, but, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ. So, you can't win the off season. I think the work gets

4:46:49done out here on the field. It's done in the classroom. It gets done training. You know, and then you see where you're at in training camp. And then, you build on that. You know, I think we got the right guys in the building. It's just about putting a complete team on the field. And then, you know, you can't help it because it's a separate business part of the game and the actual football behind the game. Oh, you know, you always want to, you always have to treat it like a business, because, you know, one day it's going to end. And that's been a job. It's not like in college, where, you know, you got four years guarantee. Well, now you don't know what that I am, and I don't know, it's crap, it's a transfer portal, portal. But, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game, and I still work my tail off, and I still put everything into it. And that's not going to change. But, you have to know what you bring to the team,

4:47:49and what your value is. Can't be only to be able to be out there with your teammates today emotionally. Great, you know. We got a new, you got a new training staff, and still learning the warm-up. A little different. But, you know, I loved it. You know, just getting after it. Learning new guys. Going through the same drills I've been doing by myself. I actually like having more people around, because like, kind of go stir crazy, when it's just you and another guy, you're like, damn, I gotta go back up for another rep already. And so, you know, it's nice to be up here, and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we, confident, if you will, get down with your emotion? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral, because, you know, I don't want to be too, either way. All I know is I want to be here. But, we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here, but I look forward to playing actually. You know what, that second surgery,

4:48:49you said at this time, was on the left side, was the first time around on the right side? Right side during the season, left side, and that was just tightening down my core, my core muscle. And, I think, I'm going to tighten down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my adductor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron, who did the surgery as well. You know, if anything, it's going to help me and, you know, make me a lot stronger from here on up. Can you say you were training with another guy who you have been working with? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got a trainer of North, Chialco, Haley, who's my guy, trained a Heath Miller, Brett Kiesel, a multitude of guys that I'll respect. And we've just been getting after. Can you give me a very cute guys' historically, 35, they paid big contract and he, that's held against you?

4:49:49I think, there's not a lot of history behind it. But, you know, for me, I look as, I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else in the sleep. You know, I like to think, you know, I can play the run in the pass, and that's where I'm different. You know, I remember last year, Mike T, just brought to my attention, you know, the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters. And, you know, my game's built on power and technique. And those guys go into their 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing in the high-end scenes. But, you know, I, I, I, I, I don't really know, what kind of research I'm experiencing. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

4:50:49I, I, I, I, I, I, I, But in my mind, I got three years and I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level and I want to go deep into playoffs. And we got a good team and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. If you plan on practicing and you report to the trophy, is it possible that you might fold in and force an issue? I have not even thought that far. I'm taking a day by day. I told my agent and we talked about it. We were cool coming out here. I'll be here for many. And then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross up. Why would you work for a few more? Remain a stealer for years for years. There was a conversation between me, Omar and Mike T.

4:51:51And there are certain guys that are one helmet guys. I want to be one of those one helmet guys. There's a hunger and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me, I think I got more bullets to fire and I'm excited to do that. What's the meaning of last one? You and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with Walter Menn. What's a pain in the ear patch? I saw Russell's social media. But I have an idea to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens. It's cool to have another Walter Payton Manier winner. I think it's an honor to be there. I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a Walter Payton Manier thing on Thursday. It's not like I'm skipping.

4:52:51It's an honor to be with Russ and it's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work. The cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. I can see that with Russ's foundation, we had an event for our foundation. My mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners. I was like, well, let's enjoy the event. It's really cool to be a part of a lead group. Thank you. I always think good. Just trying to play different terminology, different schemes. Just learning how they want things done compared to how they used to do things. Everybody's got different skills. Everybody's different, but you're some of the same. It's a great room. A lot of really good guys have grown really close with a lot of those guys.

4:53:53Everybody helps each other, a really nice learner from Dalton, breadin' those guys. Dalton's done it for a really long time, so he helps me a lot with things that really aren't coachable things. I mentioned having family at the game, but what about working out here at this high school? I don't know how high I'll be. I don't know how high school is like this. Man, it's like a different name. I went to Lexington, how it's about the eighth of the size of this place. This is not like my high school, but this is a healthy place. It's super cool to be home and just be back and give you a little sense of comfort, I guess for me, especially being away for as long as I've been. So I was a man and I kind of wore around the city. Have you seen a bunch of f*****g fans that have wanted to get your autograph? I actually went home yesterday. I went back to the farm for a little bit, which was great for a couple of days. He did all my family and stuff and see my grandparents and everything. So it was good, but I really haven't been out enough to know, so I try and keep her inside. It's good, that's good. Do you think you're playing at the league show base to talk about?

4:54:59That's a good question. I don't think that's for me. Every time you can play this game for 50 years, there's always going to be something you leave to feel with. I wish I would have been better in that area. I wish I would have been better in some other area. You know what I mean? It's never going to be. This is absolutely perfect. Right now, the hardest part of this is just mental toughness of all. Physical toughness, you either have it or you don't, in my opinion. I always felt like I was kind of bred in that area of things, and that's just kind of what happens naturally. So just play after play, that's how we roll it. Thank you guys. We are now. We got to get you on the boat. Yeah, I was growing immensely. I mean, Caleb, he makes a lot of checks. Latham makes a lot of checks. I listen to them. Whatever they need, if I need to cover somebody out, I'll go cover anybody. If they need me to do run support, I'll do run support. And it's really what Caleb does, what we do, and Latham. It just goes back to Coach G's preparation, and everyone's preparation to give us more flexibility and doesn't matter who's in those positions.

4:56:00So I'll play every position, whether it's covering somebody or running and attacking them. Did you feel like that was the case before the Oregon game? You're showing up, Sammy. Is that something that's been added? It just, you know, rely on a little bit more. Go ahead. Yeah, it did. I was probably in a Brasco game, me getting more safety reps. And we had a five week to prepare, so I really learned the playbook. A lot more, even though I knew the playbook, I learned a lot more in-depth. So really just after the Oregon game, it helped me a lot to go back to safety, go to NICU everywhere. Thanks, man. Dan, let me know where you're going. Do you guys have had a lot of issues of giving up the big plays in the passing game of the first game against Oregon? What do you feel you guys need to do better this time around to make sure that doesn't happen? Just the same mindset. We got to challenge these receivers. You know, every dog has their day. Maybe some people didn't have their day that game, but we'll look out there and hopefully change the narrative.

4:57:00And we still play with the same confidence, same technique. And, you know, Bill Rebellion, it's a Columbus this batch. And Denzel obviously had a tough game. And that one, what have you seen from him and how he's responded? Do you get a sense of, from him, how he is for this rematch? Oh, yeah, he's super stoked for this rematch. His preparation has been very good. He's always been preparing. You know, it didn't go the way he wanted to go that game. But he just always had his confidence. And we're going to see a big game out of him this week. And, you know, I know you guys wanted to play them in anapolis. But the fact that you get to play them at the Rose Bowl, I mean, get a second chance. And people have said, you don't get that very often. How determined are you guys to take advantage of it? We're super, super determined. We watched film. I mean, we've watched a lot of film. The first time we played them, now we've got another six games that they played up film to watch. And it's just, they've grown a lot as a team. Same as us. We've grown a lot.

4:58:00We're not the same team. We were when we played them week one or weeks six or whatever. But now we're out there and going to play fast, physical, and everything like that. All right, Jordan, we're going to jump to the, to assume a question here from Joey Kaufman. What's this match? Oh, my bad. Not too Joey. Can't we T Robinson, the athletic? Hey, Jordan, you've moved around a lot in the second day and in your career and now kind of getting some many more safety reps. What is it like at this point when Walt or Coach Noles comes to you and asks you to do some else? And just how much can you lean on the experiences you've had and moving around when you're trying to learn something new in the middle of the season? It means a lot. We always talk about, this is if is being on selfish, whether that's making plays or not making plays, or doing your job so another person can make plays. That's kind of what we pride ourselves on. And it's just fun. We move around different positions. I'm always up for a new challenge. And a lot of people in the country can't do that.

4:59:00I just hold myself to that standard where I can play any position and excel at it. Okay. If anybody else needs a question, let me know. But otherwise we can go to Austin more of the podcast. Jordan, when you were talking about watching film Oregon, which one do you think is more valuable to you watching that against yourself seven games ago, even if you've changed or the ensuing six games for Oregon? Which one do you put more stock in? Kind of both. For me, I kind of watched what I did, things I did well, things I didn't do too well against them. And their team is changing, some players have been out those stretch of games. So I really watched the past game we played. And I know they're going to go back to some of the stuff that they liked, of course, and different games like Penn State, maybe Illinois, they run a lot of men. So just watching, watching stuff like that. Every game matters. So yeah.

5:00:00Jordan, thank you very much. Thank you. Shoot ourselves a foot high on the hand run game. How do I handle in the passing game? And really just stop getting our own way. He's a CJ first couple of weeks. It looks like you've been having more comfortable with off-script plays and taking more risks, which you say that's something that's overdubbed this year for you. I mean, yes and no. I don't choose a run. I run what I have to. I feel like I am agile and I can't get out. But I definitely try to read the defense to get my guys the ball. Because they're usually open every time. So it's just up to the pocket. Navigating that, trying to make my rely arrive also. If I have to extend the play. Did you guys started going to last year's night to know how much different the things feel this year? Not even the whole season after your belt would have been learned. Or do you feel like you guys are going to win? Oh, it's too, oh, it's a lot worse than the two.

5:01:00So I'm definitely grateful. I'm definitely blessed to be playing this great game. But you know, it's definitely a lot of things we can clean up. I think around the league and see that though, you know, I mean a lot of sloppy ball, you know, some teams playing better than others. But I definitely know that, you know, section four was not what we put on the field today. But, you know, at least in the second half would definitely be better for sure. You and Nico connected on a couple of scrambled trail style plays. Is that something you guys work on actively? Is that a focus of yours? No. I mean, it's just two guys out there making plays. You know, we have a drill that we do at practice that, you know, it does help those things. But, you know, trying to just be two guys, be dynamic players. Do you guys think you're going to be born in that way? Kind of mind not to speak. Yeah, for sure. I think, I mean, Nico, we've always had a good relationship and always, you know, you're ready each other well on the field. But I think even now, you know, we'll take the next steps. And you can see, you know, staff getting involved more, tank getting involved, dulled and brave. We're just trying to spread it around, you know, and we have so many dynamic players.

5:02:03So, you know, it's a good problem to have. You know, obviously, you know, all two are better than things of that nature. How do you balance, you guys have the win, but you said you like to be put on Texans football. How do you kind of balance one of the correct order mistakes, but while also, you know, celebrating a win that you guys just had today? It's football is harder than the NFL. I'm happy. Of course, I'm not satisfied. I'll never be satisfied. There's always things that you can point out. We're not going to let one half of football make us put our head and we're going to stay confident. We're going to stay taking shots. We're going to stay, you know, betting on us. So, I definitely, you know, understand, you know, we need to be better. But, you know, like you said, winning is number one. So, we won and now it's time to move on and get better. Can you talk a little bit about what Payneas meant to the team over these past two weeks? And as a quarterback, as an offense, does having a kicker that can hit for long range like that consistency?

5:03:03Can you guys give you a little bit of extra confidence, you know, once you've been over 50, you got that? Yeah, any guys in his aims, man. I'm super happy and proud of him. Can you broker a record today or something like that? So, you know, we definitely need him. You know, all points are big points. And I definitely think like the preparation and just who he is at practice, you know, you can, you know that he's going to knock it down. It's because how hard he is on himself during practice. And, you know, it was a great job. I especially teams today blocking it. Also, you know, point Tommy doing his job as well. So, you know, it takes three phases for water and for water. Here you go. See the emission. All right, here's a little get those numbers. I promised it was not long. 4602, now through 17 career games. Remember, it's the couple a year ago due to that concussion. So, reaches his full quote unquote first season, at least from a game standpoint here in week two of year two.

5:04:03Stroud when we're looking up at a few. It's different for me. I'm really like a ball player type of guy. Not very, not the most outgoing and both good, but. I'm not talking to realize that people listen. So, just taking more of that type of aspect into my game. And just making me more complete as a football player. I'm willing to do something. How have you seen maybe change a little bit with Coach Hardline in a bit of a different role? And maybe whether it be other coaches, coach Jordan or players stepping up to have a big battle. I want to say a change much. He's still super involved. He always tries to stay engaged with us guys. I mean, he's the Oc now and he's more schematic and everything now, but he's still keeping that relationship strong with us.

5:05:09And still really in there with the Civic one. And shout out to Coach Jordan as long. Stepping up, taking a big little coach. Jordan's putting huge factor in our lunch inside the end here. So, it's a big cross the coach doing everything he's doing. How do you feel like the spring's gone for you? Obviously you've done this now. Just what have you taken from us? I'm extremely comfortable, super confident in my ability to do what I do. Just building that trust from my quarterback just pretty much what I came in when I do. Just let them know that they got it. They got to revive me off the stage next time I'm on the field. And you know, just establishing that. Like I said earlier, just showing my young guys a foundation example. They want to come in and do what's the expectation? It wasn't. I'll give them real value last year. We did caught them. Yeah. Obviously, trust with you to the surface. How long have you felt yourself building that trust? I think it's been good. Just being more vocal with them guys as well. Me and Will are very vocal even in practice a lot of times.

5:06:10Just things they go my way in the game, but even in practice a lot. I was very comfortable with Will. More vocal guys. But working in that arm, I'm putting back now and there doing a little job. Just going to the ceiling and taking our feedback and have more spreadorcism, but just because we love it. You're just doing that and just keep growing on that all the way to far and not into the physical state. You are doing some more outside for you. You're stopping as well. Yeah, I've been more the more years you get under your belt for more experience you get. You start knowing this offense more and more not just your position or what you're doing. Like everybody's what you're doing, how you're doing and why you're doing it. So I mean, I've been rapping the outside ZXH anywhere coach on me is me. The James really be that guy and go make a play on it. What's the biggest difference for you between outside and outside? The pace. A route concept you can kind of get the pace you can play within the slides more for next game in the slide. Something I got very comfortable with. Just the ways you get attacked the defense, I think.

5:07:13You know, conceptually and also just how you play style. But I mean, just doing both and just making me a better guy for the NFL. And that's what Coach Hong Kong is. He's a time to produce it on the fair, time and producing NFL guys. I'm feeling very comfortable with that. Do you have to have a different mindset as a slide receiver? That's what's going on. Absolutely. I think it's more thinking. I think it's more of a yet to have 100% end of the game a lot. And the slide you've got to have a feel that have this is natural. I feel like it's more natural condition. And on the outside it's just more, you know, get different things and see different coverage. You see different player types of corners and nickelbacks and safeties more in the slide. So just seeing how you can attack knowing your person now and how you can attack some people. That's how I say the biggest difference. Do you have that more courage? Say what? You have that more courage in the slide? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Especially like being myself in the slide faster. I'm a skinnier guy that want to put hands on and want to get physical with you. But you just got to match that and just let them know that you there too.

5:08:14You as in a balanced question, whatever gets you on to, regardless inside outside. I'm just willing to make plays and show one one of the best receivers in America. So if that's on the outside, that's on the inside. Whatever coach I'm on in this team needs me help us win and show them one of the best receivers in America. Thank you, sir. At that time, you go back to zero, zero, the score. They scored a thing in a half. We knew they got the ball back. The defense wasn't quite happy that they gave that touchdown at the end. And we knew they get the ball back coming out. But we was excited because we knew the job wasn't doing it. Bill Rebellion, Columbus, this back. You were a five star guy and that coming out. All these guys in the room almost were five star guys. And then there's Jeremiah. Is he like, does he like all you guys in the room? I mean, I'm not sure if it's probably something you got to ask him, but you know, Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen a lot of all the talent you can see in the world.

5:09:18But I don't know if he's ever in all, but I mean, you and all. Oh, and my oh, yeah, my mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. Like I've seen him. It's out. We were nine years old. So anything he does, anyone hand catch, I've seen. I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, did you know this is not a, this is something special we have met. Any of that nine? Oh, yeah. I mean, coaches were coming up to us complaining that we were nine years old. Like, can we, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So I mean, I mean, there's definitely some footage that we got to go find. But the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. And it seems very unaffected by all of the starter. Yeah. How does that happen? I think how he was raised. He's just, he's very level-headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life. And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir.

5:10:18But we're going to start with Defond from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team's success, he says all the credit goes through players. It seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big, how influential is he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? Oh, he's been huge, man. Coming here after that team of Northwest, you know, his heart breaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting. And he was in here. I mean, and then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say. And we had to say, going back and forth, we just, we knew, we would have his back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff set about him and his family and stuff like that. But, hey, here we're a brotherhood and we're a family. And we just, we don't stand by him no matter what. Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead. Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year.

5:11:23But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process been like for you of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah. In life, things doesn't go the way you exactly planted too. And that just did happen. You know, things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back and that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it. It makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. Three more on Zoom. Next one is going to come from Stefan Means. Go ahead. Oh, I'm Steven, but I'm sorry. Yeah, you're good. Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block and kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver just being able to hit another guy with all my power as hard as I can without any,

5:12:28without any consequences. Except if you hold, of course. But yeah, just bringing that power, I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, wow, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys, so I know what the other defensive guys are thinking, like just keep bringing it to them. They're not going to like it for four quarters, that's my mindset. Next question's going to come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs and this kind of we've seen from them on film, so far? Yeah, the last couple of days we watched them, they're a fast team. They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the DBs they have at corner there. I play with them. Well, I played with Mollie Muhammad at SFE, so I might know him a little bit. And we have a watching them, they're a fast team, they're physical, they're disciplined,

5:13:29but we just got to get the job done. Give any Malik stories or any... Wait, what are they saying? Give any Malik stories or anything you remember about playing with them? Oh, yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Yeah, we'll just keep that. Our final question's going to come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon, one of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is finishing. And what if you can speak to... And they had a trouble, obviously, in the Peach Bowl, you know, blue with 16-point league. Can you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct and you guys obviously seem to have that now? Yeah, I think that started in the offseason training at Fall Camp. We always say go plus two, if you're doing a 10-yard pro-shuttle, you have to go plus two throughout the line and that's just finishing up as well. And then Fall Camp, we had these long 2-1-1-1 practices

5:14:32or whatnot and then we came out and we had to do these finishers, we called them Asperg Games late in the year like this. And I think Coach Day did a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And yeah, we're just ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions in Columbus so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kingston and North. Brandon, Shreveon's second touchdown run. It seemed like you took two players out of the play, first with your release and then with the guy you actually blocked. Is that how it's designed? Or was it just lucky to get the guy to start off the takeoff inside of the release? It's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead the corner 1-1 with the running back. But I was surprised at the corner. I actually came in so far in my lease. I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was the edge of the defense. If you go watch that play, but I don't know why he came in so far, but it helped out for us. And I made my block interior off score.

5:15:33Is there any lesson there for like a young receiver watching that that even if you know him to play, you're not getting the ball. You're intended to block. But you release has to be at all point as if you're going to go pitch pass. Yeah, definitely. Every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there. So we say every yard matters as two yards. So the block I made is just a testament to Cal. Coach Hartline print me throughout the week to make that block. So yeah. And final question. Joy Confin, Columbus, this batch. And it will. And there's been some of the ball to equal lately, and some of the special way you guys have opened games. What do you think is this quick for you guys and for him and watching those plays? A lot more confidence. I say throughout the year, we were always there as offense. We had we didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly but surely, I think we found that. And we're going to keep on rolling. And he's made some great throws. And yeah.

5:16:34I'm sorry, Brandon. I do have one more steep. How many of you are playing for yourself in sport? Brandon, there have been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense. And the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just one of the things you need to do in your game to take it to where it is now to be in every down guy. I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart by IQ, just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. My routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying in the jug machine. Work ethic, keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't get too big, don't get too low. Don't get too high. Don't get too low. It's what they say. You feel like a guy that the people follow, it seems like. Just in your mind, even the second year guy, that you're kind of working toward being kind

5:17:34of a leadership type guy. I got a book to have guys that will take that role. Yeah. It's a great feeling, of course. No guys are watching what you do. I've listened to what you do. But we do that with a lot of players here, and not just myself. But the leadership we have on this team is like no other. And that's why we got so far, I think. Brandon, thank you very much. Not knowing anything, but to go hard and put his head down. I'm super, super proud of Will. And I think we can't see off each other. He was a lowly or under recruited guy out of high school. So he always knows it's to go hard and what that looks like. So I'm proud of him. What do you think Max is better at, especially? A lot of skill. I mean, the guy, he fits the room, personality-wise. Johnny will tell you that. He's fun to be around. He's an outstanding ground runner. And he wants to get better. And he's hungering. So he said great vision. We have a lot of people from the outside. We see a new guy comes in. And we guys have two or five guys who do like,

5:18:35they can get reps to. Maybe some people would have thought some of you guys would leave. Why would you guys say, why is this group so deep and state even though you guys probably are another guy? Yeah, I mean, I think it's just a testament to how strong his brotherhood is. When Coach told us that we were bringing him in mags, I thought it was a great opportunity for me like an icon worse stuff than that. He's a great player. And I already have a piece of our stuff for me and Will. And I think now we have something really good guys. And really just stay fresh. And it was a lot of fun there. And ultimately become the best players we can be. I think it was a late time. We said. Yeah. I saw that as a late time. I'm sure you're not watching for these offense when you guys are getting ready. But how quick did you kind of realize that this guy's legit? You see the numbers. You see the number one. Do you realize that this guy's real good? But what I bet on the first day, he was a class act. And for me, I think character is a big thing. I had a really medical football player. It doesn't have good character. And I bet on the first day I knew that he was a hard worker. It came in here and was grinding.

5:19:36And you know, it's showing right now in the field. It's going great. What do you have to do to get better at the surface? Yeah. I mean, I just, I'm not really focused on specific areas. I obviously want to become a more polished outrunner. I'm going to get better at blocking. And to get better at past rotation. So real understab working on everything, man, and hopefully, you know, to get all of this together. I think I can have a really good year. Does it feel good to have the only touchdown catch from one of the pullbacks you run back? Yeah, it's always, yeah. Yeah, that was cool. That was a cool moment to have with him. How's that been working with Julian? I think so far? You guys were so close with the role. Yeah, it's great. I remember when Lincoln first got here, I was guy getting him out to the fields, throw with me. So me and Lincoln go way back. And I'm for the first guy here. I love Julian. And even Tavy is coming in. And he's impressed me, saying. There's been a lot of talk about the third back.

5:20:37I think that's the first time I've ever seen a leadership that could just want to see. I mean, how are you seeing those three guys have emerged? You know, as leaders and is it that role? Yeah, I think they at first weren't nowhere near as vocal as Will was when we got here. But I think they're really stepping up in that role. And it's really good to see. All right, good. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Thanks for sharing. I mean, just how it was raised, I just knew how to work. That's all I had to do. Just give it effort and just going east out of it. I want to say this with full respect. When we see JJ and Sonny, it's like, that makes sense. When you're the third guy, were you surprised to be named? What puts you in that same category? Yeah, I was a little surprised. I kind of have feeling because I kind of like, I mean, I kind of could have guessed it. But I just knew that I was one of my goal to talk to him behind Bug Guy. And I just couldn't work. I was in the middle. And I was like, what did you get in that? What did you mean? How did you take me? It was really special right after I took some affairs.

5:21:39And they really knew what it meant until the video came out and the question they explained it to us. So then that's what it's going to be. I guess. Back then, in my last year, it was when both back then right back in games. Did you just tell the difficulties of going back and forth? Not just like we were learning them. Actually, it happened to play both of those thoughts. Yeah, it's pretty difficult, especially during the game. You have to put the whole mind around. It's a lot easier in practice because it's not getting settled down. But going back to my game. It's pretty hard. Like in high school, it was every other play I was in back in school with the triple out. And so I knew it. I knew it. It was comfortable with it. And sometimes I just take it. But when I'm walking to the reminds of my screen, I have like, say it to be a play again. Yeah, me more times again. I hit my head. I can bring it to back. I can put it in the frame. It's kind of fun with it. I can put it in the frame. I can put it back. I can put it out. It's a great thing.

5:22:40I can put it in the frame. It's also an awesome one. Yeah. So I got to set the example. And then, like, my first two weeks here, I was teaching them. I don't know what they're expecting these plays. Because I've seen some new plays for them. And even new defense, like technique two. They're trying to keep the same technique. But just helping them out. Because we need them. What did you like, when did the idea of playing tackle kind of come about? Did you, about like, rap? Did you think that there was a good ball game? What did you think, when did you have a bad guys come about? It came close to the springtime. They wanted to have a good fight out there. And they don't play the best. So they just won't get the chance. What do you all think of this one? They're awesome. They're great. A lot of eyes, and it's awesome. Because everyone's watching something. It's not like someone's only watching this place. So you know what's going on. I've got a feedback to get after a play, after a practice. From all three off to all five. It's awesome. They tell you everything.

5:23:41Because they know what's the last time I had with Coach Johnson and Coach Dickie's watching, watching, watching the coach, but when it feels a lot to them. So you know what's going on, but how has the experience that you got at the big reps in the big games, all that helps? It was coming into the side. It really boosted my confidence. And I can lead the young guys too. So I know it was going on because they really don't really miss this first time spring. So I like to be on the other side. My stuff's like just that leadership of them. Resortility has also been mentioned a lot. It's been all both sides of the ball playing in different spots. You know, I rate on that. Yeah.