Princess Diana, Dodi Fayed & the Epstein Network No One Talks About | Julian Dorey

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Mike Eglian, episode 351, the second time he was in here, back in the fall.

I said to him, we put out as a clip, actually back then, and I put it out on YouTube again

recently.

No, I didn't put this one on YouTube, but it's on my Instagram.

I had said, the guy I'm watching is Dan Bonjino, and this is when Bonjino was still working

at, as the deputy director at FBI.

And the reason I said that is because every time I saw Dan Bonjino do these public hits

throughout his year being deputy director, he looked like a hostage.

He looked, you know, he always had that vein in his forehead, you know, we stepped over

his arms like this and break out into the camera, just fucking hour about all his politics

when he had his, when he had his podcast.

But like it was that same look, except a look of complete, like he had seen a ghost, especially

when they talked about this case, that's really what I'm referring to.

And it felt like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders.

And actually, you know, I was hoping, I was like, obviously, you know, this guy has

said some, it's from a very different world than I am, and very different point of view

than I am.

But I was hoping, I'm like, if he leaves there's what I said, I was watching him.

If he leaves there, will he be the volcano that explodes?

And actually brings out some justice, it was wishful thinking.

It has been the complete opposite.

He has run a total PR campaign that, you know, again, we talk about choice A and choice

B when you're doing PR, choice A being not even a good choice, but it's just like, well,

this won't make things worse.

And choice B being like, this is the worst possible thing I could say or do.

He's hitting choice B like crazy.

And he's just going online every day as if all he's going to gaslight his whole audience

who wanted all these vows release and wanted the truth to suddenly be like, you know, damn,

I might have a point.

We might be good here.

I genuinely was just thinking in my head, like who actually tunes in to him?

Like, can you describe to me like the archetype of person who's tuning in to Dan Mangino?

Like this moment I actually can't, maybe Michael Tracy, he's probably tuning in.

He is.

He's definitely trying to solve every fucking word.

He watched that clip of dad in cash and he was like, fuck, they're so right.

Yeah, that's it.

Nothing to see here.

Oh, no such thing as a victim.

They're not real.

Oh, man.

Listen, I am all for the exchange of ideas.

I am all for hashing things out in public.

I am all for discussing things with nuance.

It's quite literally what I do on my show and get a lot of shit for whenever someone's

on one side or the other and decides to disagree with a random guess or a point of view or

something I say or something like that.

Fuck it.

I don't care.

We're going to try to see things where equilibrium is.

There is not an equilibrium with kids.

There's no, there's no equilibrium there of like, well, it could actually just, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, again.

You want to argue about some of the specific crimes, specific people, evidence or lack there

of.

That's cool.

But when you try to explain away this whole thing and say, no, it wasn't even bad or

I've even heard people try to come out and say, well, Trevor, who's in a pedophile?

There's like another term when you were using the 16 or 17 year olds, well, I guess

you didn't read the fucking case from 2005, 2006, 2007 and West Palm Beach.

It's very on record what he was into.

When we are starting to not agree on the definition of what a predator is, that's how

a story like this goes away because we've lost all common decency in society.

But when I see people who are doing that, their opinion is discarded on this matter.

I don't want to know them.

I don't want to deal with them.

This is not to quote the old like leftist ideology.

This isn't a political issue, it's about human rights, it's actually kind of a place

here.

Okay.

It's not a political issue about trafficking kids and we got litany mountains of evidence

about it.

We have emails where he admits it.

All the emails talking in code, we got pictures of all these fucking, I had disgusting

things that even the redacted things look absolutely disgusting.

Imagine what they look like unredacted.

There are plenty of details once again to still be found and to not treat as law.

And I said that at the beginning of the intro, I'll repeat it again.

We have to go where the evidence leads us no matter where that is.

But there are a list of things that on a broad 30,000 foot view in the air cannot be argued

with at this point.

This is a case regarding sex trafficking.

It is a case regarding child sex trafficking.

It is a case regarding infinite blackmail.

It is intelligence related to multiple intelligence agencies from Assad to CIA to other places

potentially as well that I think clearly have evidence of intelligence peddling that Jeffrey

Epstein did.

It is world banking related.

We have seen that.

That is without question.

We see that Epstein talked about representing the Rothschilds.

We see them corroborating that in the emails and it is arms deals related because we have

seen them discuss the trilateral commission and many things like that.

When you can't start with the basic facts like that, and when you are someone who says

that none of that stuff is real, none of it, you know, maybe one or two you argue because

you are a little on and forth.

Okay, fine.

I will have that argument with you and I will ask it out like human beings.

When you are trying to say none of that is happening or basically none of that is happening

or well, it is all made up and you know, guys like Wes, Les Wexner are totally innocent.

There is no conversation.

There is no conversation.

I am sorry.

No, I am not sorry.

I am sorry that I am not sorry.

How about that?

You own a payroll, my, on the payroll, allegedly, allegedly, without any evidence.

I say that without any evidence.

Me too.

But people like that have the appearance of being on somebody's payroll.

And you know, maybe their microphone doesn't work suddenly when they are asked about it.

Old is tricking the book.

No, it is tricking the book.

Like that, that had John crack and John was just like, oh yeah, because John and Ben's

were on the fucking battle.

John looked in the camera and just did this.

John was doing the Jack and Nicholson meme like that.

Do you love it?

It's incredible.

Incredible.

But Bill Gates.

Bill Gates apologized.

Did you see that?

Yeah, I did see that.

I mean, last week he said that shit wasn't real.

And now he said some of it's real, which means next week more of it will be real.

Oh, that's not good.

Yeah, I got that right here.

Actually, I got this post.

You didn't know your post.

Yeah, so he admitted to two affairs with two different Russian women.

I guess he has a type.

But one of them was one that we've discussed on the podcast before because it was released

in a Wall Street Journal article like two or three years ago.

And it was the bridge player.

I think your name was Masha.

She was trying to start like this bridge related app or something like that that you

wanted Jeffrey Epstein to invest in and Epstein hooked Bill Gates up with her and

they ended up fucking and she was of age, I'll say that part because that's what he's

admitting to.

He's admitting to affairs when he was married to Melinda that were of age.

But this also comes out of there being that draft email that Jeffrey Epstein wrote to

himself about trying to help Bill with an STD that he may have given his wife and given

her secret serum, unknowingly and her drink to help her get treatment for it.

It's really sick shit, but he's not admitting he made very specific that he's not admitting

to any crimes or being a witness to any crimes.

But he did travel with the guy around the world and regrets all of his dealings with him

and doing that.

But like you said, Dave, it's another example of the puck moving a little bit and one of

the things that came out in that original Wall Street Journal story when they reported

on the bridge player, whatever it was two or three years ago, was that there was an email

that Jeffrey wrote to Bill Gates after he had, I think it was like Epstein invested in

the second company this girl brought to her, brought to him and then Bill was like stiff

and Jeff on other things or maybe trying to finally get out of his life.

I don't remember the details.

And Jeff sent him like a very coded email basically saying, yeah, Bill, it'd be a real shame

of scandals like this came out about you.

You owe me money for that investment I made, by the way, basically like shaking the

guy down, which you know, fuck Bill Gates deserves it.

But that was, that's an old email, that's not a new email, that's something we found

out.

Bill Gates check next week to see what else he's caught to at that point, but again, and

I have to say this, we still as far as I know, if someone has something different than

what I'm about to say, please share it in the comments so I can review the evidence.

But we still don't have, there is no proof emphasis on the word proof that Bill Gates

committed sex crimes with Jeffrey Epstein.

Does it look like there's a lot of smoke and do I for one, if I were a betting man,

I bet on that being the case, fuck yeah.

But I have to say that, like you can't, like we, we got to, we have to run with what

we have and then try to keep uncovering things.

So keep the pressure on and it will get uncovered.

Speaking of getting uncovered, the amazing thing is that these files are basically creating

like public investigation.

And you have everything from major publications doing it and finding things before anyone

finds it on Twitter and then people on Twitter finding things before anyone else finds

it.

It's incredible to watch the world like put a web together from all different thought

groups, by the way, which is pretty cool, no, it's, it's cool.

So there was a report, but again, it's just going to be a fun game for us to all play

together and then like nothing happens, you know, like I remember, remember where everyone

was fucking united and we were all, remember we were meeting up once a week and we were

putting together some strings.

What happened?

Oh yeah, they got away with it.

They're all dead.

It's all over.

Uh, what would you, would you pull a link from the New York post about the storage locker?

Oh, yeah, yeah, this one.

I got that.

Yeah, yeah.

The first one right there.

Yeah, yeah.

So this was from a report from the telegraph reviewing financial records within the

files.

The telegraphs team secretly stashed computers, photographs and other items and storage units

scattered across the US and paid private detectives to move the material around as investigators

closed in on him.

That's referring to the investigations back in the 2000s.

Financial records and emails reviewed by the telegraph revealed that the dead petto

rented at least six storage lockers nationwide, some starting in 2003 and paid for them until

2019.

The year he died by suicide allegedly in lock up the units were used to house items from

his homes, including computers and CDs from his private Caribbean island, Little St. James,

the out reported.

Can you give me the second link now, the, yeah, because this is where they uncovered some

of the things that were in there, because another part of the telegraphs report is that

there is no record through the search warrants of the FBI ever searching these places.

They now know they exist from the files, but there's no record of them having searched

it.

So New York Post puts out a report saying sex slave manuals, dozens of address books and

a huge porn stash were among the trove of sickening items found in one of Jeffery Epstein's

secret storage lockers in Florida.

It has been revealed and inventory lists obtained by the telegraph.

So he left an inventory list again, this isn't from the FBI.

He had a personal inventory list showed the late petto had a three page list of masseuses,

letters and lab results hidden away in the Palm Beach storage unit, VHS tapes and DVDs

eroded doing exactly what you think with kids.

We're all in it, including sex toys and box loads of them.

Yeah, I don't even want to read more of that.

You know what I wonder, deep lab results, that sounds lab results as well.

What the hell?

I really wonder.

I wonder if right now, even at this moment, there's still some sort of like second layer,

this is total speculation right now, people I'm just thinking a lot, there's some sort

of second layer, dead man switch sitting in a fucking storage unit somewhere.

Oh, there has to be, I mean, I know we're doing just spec here folks, just pure spec.

I totally buy into something like that though, there's got to be, there's got to be

something stuff like this, there's always something it's let's look at it from the base

level before we found out the inventory list and what's in there just on the surface.

Someone having a storage unit is perfectly normal.

A lot of people I know have a storage unit is fine, doesn't have to be elicit or anything.

Obviously, he had a list of shit in there, having six of them, if he's a guy that has

six houses, six, seven houses, okay, that makes sense.

But the fact that they were never checked by the FBI, even though there's records of

them existing, tells me that there's more, that's weird and it's weird.

I don't like how like it seems like the FBI didn't do their job at all, like ever with

this entire thing, it's almost like they were compromised.

Yeah, right?

Because it's just like, it's like wearing like the order of operations here, do you like

see a bunch of storage units on record and you don't even search them?

That's just one thing, it's insane.

You know, I bet you if a random civilian who didn't have money and power was apprehended

by the authorities, they'd conduct the searches on those folks, just saying, I don't know.

Just a thought.

I don't know.

It's just spec.

Just spec.

Well, I alluded to it earlier.

Perhaps there's some compromise.

Perhaps it's not the wolf that snuck into the back door, but the wolf you led into

the front door in sheep's clothing.

Yeah.

Now, Gillian Maxwell has multiple siblings.

One of those siblings is Christine Maxwell, who right on her Wikipedia, we're just

right right to the CIA, here, because that even has information on it, believe it or

not.

God knows what else there is.

But right there, when talks about who she's born to, it lists her father, Robert Maxwell,

and correctly lists him as a Czechoslovak born Israeli intelligence agent.

Love to see it.

I just wanted to say before you go further, I was sitting in the studio while Julian was

just getting this last part together of the Christine Maxwell thing and all I kept hearing

audibly outside was, oh my God, I then I heard, it's real, it's real, it's real.

So I just had to say that was, yeah, it's maddening.

Yeah, we're going to get to the evidence here that's indisputable beyond Wikipedia.

Trust me, I'm not stopping at Wikipedia.

I just want to start there.

It's like a little warm up.

But when it talks about her career, Maxwell was an editor for her father's Pergamon

press publishers in early 1970s, I have a feeling that's going to be in a future episode

with us discussing that more.

But according to the Tatler, Maxwell spent most of the 1970s and 80s working for her father,

which included running the West Coast office in the United States of Pergamon press and

involvement in one of his software acquisitions.

In 1982, Maxwell acquired information on demand, one of the earliest information brokers,

which was later renamed research on demand, an information broker, a data broker.

It's like specializes in collecting your fucking data, right?

So back in 1982, getting in the forefront of that industry, good, good foresight, thief.

Good early bet, right?

Yeah, they're good at early bets.

They're really good at early bets.

I'm really, really good at early bets.

So Maxwell is the creator and co-founder of Magellan, one of the first professionally

curated online search slash reference guides to internet content.

That's not weird at all.

In 1992, she created and co-authored one of the first hard copy reference guides to

the internet.

And they were both published by McMillan Publishers.

I think that's also the one I might fucking up right now.

That's the one associated with her father, right?

The big five.

Yes.

Yeah, that's the textbook one.

Yeah.

Her father was printing.

Again, we're going to discuss that in the future.

Magellan was acquired by competing search engine excite in 1996.

You know what Christine did, Joe?

This is the part, huh?

This is the part what she founded a company called Chilliad, a software company involved

in the advance on demand massively scalable intelligent mining of structured and unstructured

data through the use of natural language search technologies.

The firm software was behind the data search technology used by the FBI's counterterrorism

data warehouse.

As of August 2019, Maxwell served as the board director of Chilliad.

Now, let's pull up that next article, Dave.

You can't even make that up.

You can't.

August 2019.

We're going beyond Wikipedia now just to make sure people out there understand when I

just trust in whatever you want to say Wikipedia is these days.

So can you just zoom a little bit?

Yeah.

Well, that's a little zoom in for the folks.

All right.

So this is from the business wire in March 2008, Chilliad, the company that solved the 911

connecting the dots problem.

Hires Dan Ferranti, a CEO, industry veteran, assumes command to expand Chilliad's presence.

For nearly 10 years, Chilliad has been quietly working.

That's what they do, quietly working behind the scenes to develop some of the most powerful

and innovative software in the U.S. government's anti-terrorism arsenal, with the addition of

Dan Ferranti, a veteran CEO with a proven 27-year track record in the information technology

field.

The Washington, D.C. base company is preparing to extend the benefits of its groundbreaking

technology beyond its already impressive client base.

The phrase connecting the dots is central to understanding Chilliad's principal software

product, Chilliad Discovery Slush Alert.

Chilliad's founders, Christine Maxwell and others, were influenced by this

space shuttle Challenger disaster and the 911 terrorist attacks.

Investigations in both events concluded the information stored in incompatible databases

and documents maintained by different departments and organizations could have allowed managers

and officials to prevent those disasters.

But there were simply no existing technology things to connect the dots across so many

incompatible systems and organizations.

Efforts to solve this problem, hastened development efforts within Chilliad and drove

the first deployments of Chilliad software within the U.S. intelligence community to create

a virtual knowledge environment across distributed information stovepipes databases and applications.

Go down, D.F. I want to get to where they got the holy grail of who it is.

Both the FBI and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the lead U.S. agencies

and the War on Terrorism have seen the unique value Chilliad offers and has deployed

the company's software to tame the mountains of data that must be sifted and analyzed

to accomplish their mission.

Now again, let me practice what I preach here and talk about evidence leading to concrete

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Does that mean for sure that Christine Maxwell, the daughter of Robert Maxwell, one of the

most prolific spies to ever walk the earth in the sister of Guy Lane Maxwell, the prolific

spy work right next to Jeffrey Epstein on the biggest sex trafficking, honey pat organization

we've ever fucking seen.

Does that mean for sure that because her company just happened to collect all the data

from FBI and this article says NSA, but there's also data.

I want you to check this, Steve, to make sure we got it so the people know it's sourced,

but I believe I'd also read that the data information was being shared with CIA as well.

I want to make sure I don't miss that.

She might have just happened to found this data harvesting company, and honestly is a patriotic

now.

Yes, Steve is saying thumbs up.

We see I had to as a patriotic American citizen who immigrated to America.

She wants to give the gift of data sharing, you know, that's what I would give for Christmas

to the intelligence agencies after 9, 11, that's that is certainly possible.

But it's very interesting when a woman connected to the said people I just mentioned is doing

that right around the time and selling the product to the government right after the

worst terrorist attack in the history of the nation, right around the time where there's

emails going back and forth to her sister talking about a 9, 11 shadow commission.

Well, I think I want to I just look this up.

Are you going to upset me?

I don't know.

I might just this might just be pure spec folks might be spec, but she stepped down August

2019 from chili add Christine Maxwell.

That's what that said what said as of 2019 she was still serving as chairman of the board.

Okay.

Now, the only thing that I haven't found some solid info on is like what happened to

chili add post 2019, but in December 2019, Palantir secured a really large position in

the US government, $458 million production agreement for data analytics.

So the timing timing is crazy, dude.

It's almost like she set up the foundation and said, yo, Pete, take the rock, yo.

This ball yours, Kuh again, yeah, just spec, just spec, but it's not in a court of law

right now.

We wouldn't win that case.

The jury wouldn't even deliberate for very long.

We'd lose.

Like, this kid has two different socks on, right, it'd be like, what are you doing?

And it's very interesting.

It is.

It's very interesting when she spun up chili add to in the mid 90s again, that's spec,

but there were people talking about the new future for America at the time.

And that new future included an imminent invasion of Iraq long before 9, 11.

And well, after Desert Storm, we know that we've seen that.

Wow, that's like, that's just, sometimes it's too much.

I want to pull up that.

But there you go.

Alan Wade, after his work with chili add was involved with Palantir and was heavily

spun.

Oh my God.

And sponsored Jesus Christ.

Thank you, tell.

Oh my God.

Yeah, the original tweet I saw again, I figured this was like,

wow, not real, but it's real.

It's like a bunch of fucking red alarm bells and shit breaking news.

Galen Maxwell sisters.

Galen Maxwell sisters are literally in control of the FBI computer systems,

including NSA and Epstein files, which that I have to say that might be a stretch.

A little stretch.

Yeah.

At this point, I don't think that's true.

But the next core, Christine Maxwell co-founded chili add, providing data mining software

to FBI's counterterrorism warehouse post 9-11, enabling searches across agencies like CIA

and NSA.

That is true.

Isabel Maxwell led Israeli firms, Commute Touch and incognito with board roles at Perez

Center for Peace and Israel Venture Network that I haven't.

I don't think I checked that one yet, but that does ring a bell.

But Isabel Maxwell, this one, I looked at, is employed by the world economic forum as

a technology pioneer and that gets right back full circle to like,

you know, there being a trilateral commission and the types, the things that these groups

discussed.

John even talked about how the woman that he knew who got into that, then was able to

go to like Davos with the same people discussing things from a different angle.

But it's the same thing.

And it's this kind of global order and this stuff that in the past, I was like, yes,

some of that seems like there's some powerful people who want that for sure, for sure.

But like the scope of when people would say, no, no, like most of them want it or the

people that actually run the world want it, I, in the past, I would have been like,

mm, that feels like, feels like you're reaching, yeah, I don't feel that way anymore.

I don't.

There is a real, and part of it also is then like tying together things we already

knew would like the people that literally would be at the forefront of conspiracies like

that when you talk about the Rockefellers and stuff and what that is.

And I did some more pulling on that, by the way, after my talk with John on and off

camera.

And can you pull up the clip of Kiryak who talked about David Rockefeller real quick?

Yeah.

Because we got to talk about him, the grandson of the original Rockefeller.

But this was from episode 388 where John tells a story about his interaction with David

Rockefeller in Ukraine.

I told you about my encounter with David Rockefeller.

Did I not?

You did not tell me about that.

No.

I was, I was working in Bahrain in the American Embassy, I was the economic officer.

And I was a long time subscriber to this wonderful magazine called Art News Magazine.

And I read this article about David Rockefeller being given this major like art world award

for the work that he's done over the course of 75 years or whatever it was for art in New

York.

And then we get a cable from the State Department saying that David Rockefeller is coming

to Bahrain because he's being given an award by the Bahraini American Bankers Association.

And the ambassador comes into my office, David Ransom, wonderful, wonderful ambassador,

lovely human being, one of the best bosses I ever had.

And he said, hey, we got a cable from from State saying that David Rockefeller is coming

out to Bahrain.

He's going to collect this award from the bankers association.

I said the bankers association and he said, yeah, I want you to be his control officer.

I said, I'd love to be his control officer.

What that means is you arrange the car, you arrange the hotel, you make sure he gets from

point A to point B and just make sure there are no problems.

If he wants to go shopping, you take him shopping, you do anything he wants.

I welcomed it.

Well, as soon as the Bahraini's heard that David Rockefeller was coming, his Highness the

Amir announces, we're going to do a state dinner, right?

So the entire cabinet, the entire royal family, the entire diplomatic corps, all the ambassadors,

all the credited diplomats, this is a major event, like the biggest social event of the

year.

It's at his main palace.

There are like 500 people there.

So I go and I was saving my, see, I thought I was very clever.

I was just a stupid kid.

So I saved my congratulations for his award for the receiving line.

So I say to the Amir, it's such a pleasure to see you, your highness.

And I said, the prime minister, we didn't like each other very much.

You're like, you know, hello.

Hello.

He would always say hello, Kiriaku.

Yeah.

And then he was like, you're like the spy version of a V-pepper, I don't know if anyone

ever told you that.

And then it comes David Rockefeller.

And I said, Mr. Rockefeller, I wanted to congratulate you on your, you know, whatever it was

called, award.

Oh, he lights up.

Thank you so much.

I'm so proud of that award, the Guggenheim and the Mad, and then I, you know, go.

And then the next night he collects his award from the Banker's Association, and he leaves.

So we had a nine o'clock meeting in the embassy every day.

It was, you know, the ambassador, the deputy chief of mission and the heads of all the departments.

So I'm in there in the morning meeting.

And the ambassador says, so the Rockefeller visit went very well.

And I said, because I'm an idiot, I said, why would a guy who's almost a hundred years

old fly halfway around the world to collect a little trophy from some bankers that he's

never met before?

And the ambassador goes like this.

He goes, John, John, you're supposed to be the smart guy.

I said, what?

What am I missing?

He's like, he didn't come for the bankers award.

That was his cover stop.

And I said, so what was he doing here?

He said, David Rockefeller is the secret back channel to Saddam Hussein.

He came here to make it look like he had business in the Middle East.

We put him on a military transport this morning and sent him to Baghdad to tell Saddam Hussein

to cut it out, or you're going to get a bomb up your ass.

And then he flew back from Baghdad.

And I was like, man, I have a lot to learn.

Okay.

Pause it.

Again, evidence that pulls up Tucker Carlson's super government idea straight into the

real world where you have intel agencies being a liaison fixer service for the people who

actually run the world and get to tell the world leaders what happens and what doesn't

basically who gets to die.

Yeah.

Now can you pull up, there's a link there, David Rockefeller's Wikipedia.

I actually want to start with the very bottom, because again, what's that awards?

No, the go to international conspiracy, yeah.

This is something that has been in the public domain for 23, 24 years since David Rockefeller

became the first Rockefeller to ever write an autobiography.

But again, when we talk about hiding in plain sight, there's no hiding.

He's saying exactly what it is.

This is in response to accusations regarding wanting basically like an NWO.

He wrote in his 2003 book, for more than a century, ideological extremists at either end

of the political spectrum have seized upon well publicized incidents such as my encounter

with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we

wield over American political and economic institutions, yeah, because they don't wield

any of that, right?

Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of

the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring

with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic

structure, one world, if you will, if that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud

of it.

Wow.

I had never seen that before.

Wow.

That's exactly what it sounds like.

I mean, he was nice enough to actually lay out the whole preamble ahead of time and

say, yeah, I'm guilty.

That's me.

That's what we do.

When you look at this guy's life and you look at obviously he's a Rockefeller's grandson

of fucking gazillionaire, but you look at where he was and the things he did, someone

who developed, you know, the powerhouse that became JP Morgan Chase as we know it today,

it was Chase Manhattan back when he was working there, but he worked in and around intelligence

during World War II and then went into the banking industry and became someone that this

is a guy who had extremely close ties to Alan Dulles and was basically around in the

area as a fucking Rockefeller coming of age at the time that CIA has founded.

And we are now hearing direct first person sources of this guy, Galavanting halfway across

the world saying, give me a military transport transport bitch and give me a fucking cover

story of some banking award so that I can go tell Saddam Hussein and remind him who

his daddy is.

Wow.

David Rockefeller was the founder of the trilateral commission.

That's why I'm telling this story.

The fucking founder.

I'm not even going to get into the other people who were a part of the founding committee

if you will, but he was the founder of it.

It's real.

And there's another link I have there, Dief, under, oh shit.

It should be under where I have the trilateral commission.

It's the video of Epstein talking about it.

Yeah, I got that right.

So I'm going to have you cut to like the 120 mark on this.

Before the 120 mark, Epstein is just fucking rambling almost incoherently talking about

his associations with Rockefeller and being on the board of their foundation stuff like

that.

And then we can play it right here, Dief, let's let it roll.

So he thought that there was a world that existed in, there would be a combination of both

politics and business and leadership.

What do I mean?

He formed something called the trilateral commission.

The trilateral commission is some spooky stuff.

People said it was some of the people that, the Illuminati, some mystery about it, people

that ran the world.

It was politicians, but David said most countries, the politicians get elected for four years

or eight years, separate from the royal families in England or in the Middle East.

Someone's there for four years and they're not there anymore.

The most important people to have stability and consistency would be businessmen.

So he formed this trilateral commission of businessmen and politicians from three major

continents.

So it was the North American, the Europeans and the Asians.

So he said to me, would you like to be on the trilateral commission?

Now, I wish it was 30 years old, 32 years old, it's a great.

And he said, well, you have to fill out this application so they have your bio.

And I looked at the list of people and it was Bill Clinton, former president of the United

States, Paul Volker, every great leader in America, the Asians, the Japanese.

And with a very long description of that history, and they asked me to fill in what I would

like to have written, and I wrote Jeffrey Epstein, comma, just a good kid, which I thought

was funny.

Nobody else did.

Why the fuck would they, it's a similar question what you heard at the beginning there.

Why are they letting a fucking kid from Coney Island on the trilateral commission?

But there's been documented before that I forget who it was, but like it was written about

in books in the late 90s when no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was that he was on the

trilateral commission.

And I returned to this because they're discussing arms deals, according to John's source at

these places.

And arms deals are deals that are governments used to move weapons around and fund conflicts

and wars around the world, which basically puts people in a position where there's going

to be a lot of death.

And if you want to get into population control and there one world government type things,

well, here you go.

You have the guy David Rockefeller saying he wants a one world government and you have

him creating commissions that are facilitating these deals and having them done through that

fixer class, that middle class between the presidents and the people who run the world,

which are the people like Jeffrey Epstein and Adnikashoggi and everything that they touch

in their around.

And it gets back to the incestuous relationship of all these groups of people with each other

on each layer, the incestuous relationship of the presidents and the government bureaucracy,

the incestuous relationships of the people in the fixer class and the incestuous relationships

of the people in the top class and how they maybe go across those little fucking classes

with each other and have some weird sex parties and stuff.

I don't know.

It's weird.

But like, yeah, man, when you have a moment like we had where we're tying one of the

most notorious arms dealers to ever live, Adnikashoggi, who worked directly with Jeffrey

Epstein and worked with all these guys like the David Rockefellers of the world.

When we see that and then something is quote unquote simple as Dodify Ed, the last guy

dating Princess Diana, who had the most influence of anyone in the world who's killed

with her and her very suspicious car crash in Paris, happens to be the fucking guy's

nephew.

Like it gets nuts when you start thinking about how it all ties together.

And I want to put this as a side anecdote just to give you an idea.

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It's a book by Gordon Thomas, I want to say his name was, Gordon Thomas or Gordon Brown.

We can check that.

But one of his main sources was, I believe, Ari Ben Manashi, the former Israeli spy who,

you know, speaks out around a lot of these, and there's persona non grotto with them now.

But first chapter is describing Akatsya, code name I want to say Henry, I don't know if

you remember in that right, in Paris.

And it talks about how Paris was like, of all of the places in Europe, it was the biggest

hub for Masad to have their Akatsya, it's like a case agent.

And it's telling the story about a source that this guy was working at the Ritz hotel,

which, beef and I just attended in December, thought that story and some podcasts, very

interesting place.

But as I'm reading the chapter, it starts to become clear, like they're describing

what types of source a guy like this Katsya would look for in a place like that.

You didn't want someone to hide up because it's too obvious.

You didn't want someone like a janitor because they really don't know anything.

You needed someone in between those two.

So he starts talking about this guy, Henri, who's a facilitates transportation of high

profile guests and things like that.

I'm a hard stop.

As you talk about Henri, the fucking driver of the car, the drunk driver of the car that

ended up killing Diana and Dodify Ed.

And the Katsya was outside the front of the Ritz that night.

And what's also discussed is how the Ritz was the most popular place in Europe for middle

eastern oil deals and Arab nations to discuss arms deals and things like that.

So they righteously so would be trying to spy on a place like that.

And all of these places from the Arab countries as far as I know.

And in this case, also like a massage by we're present the night that the most famous woman

in world history was killed very, which I don't even know what to do with that.

Very, very interesting.

But the fact that the man she's killed with, the final man she happens to be dating is

the nephew of Adnan Khashoggi, who's connected to all these places, all these places.

Extremely, extremely interesting.

And you can look at things like this and ask yourself these questions without proof.

There's no proof of anything here.

I'm just asking questions related to a lot of very weird contextual examples around

like a big event, one big event right here in how it may tie back to people like this.

But seeing that kind of world bump up right into John Kiriaku's world in such a brazen

way, it's like, who do, who does CIA work for them and ain't the fucking president?

No.

Well, certainly not.

Ain't the fucking president.

And that gets real.

That's a, that's an uncomfortable conversation that's important to be had now as we

start to look at the real class structure that runs the world.

But we said we were going to do it at the beginning, deep.

Let's do it.

I'm skipping some stuff we had on there.

I knew this would happen because we're not going to have enough time.

So we'll have to put some stuff the next week.

But I do not want to punt the Lex Wexner stuff.

Let's start with the first clip right there.

I have a few in there.

But one thing I do want to say about Lex Wexner's testimony, well, two things.

Number one, like the Clintons who are about to be deposed on this subject, he was deposed

on his own turf in his own sprawling mansion out in Ohio.

The Clintons are going to be deposed on their own turf and their own sprawling mansion

in Chapacua.

Why are these powerful people getting the treatment of, they get to be deposed on their turf?

And you got the, the senators and congressmen got to come to them where they are.

Why are they not being pulled up in front of Congress just like Pam Bondy as it should

be in front of the American people right there with all the cameras and all the bright lights

and everything to answer these questions.

That's a reasonable question to ask.

Why are they getting special treatment?

That's interesting.

The second thing is I am no body language expert officially or anything like that.

Obviously in a job like this, thief and I probably are better than a lot of people

in really body language, but we're not trained like the guys on YouTube who are geniuses

and catch every fucking micro thing.

I would love to have one of those guys break down this full deposition though because

the nervousness, the cross-arms that moving his arms at every single time and tucking

in his shoulders like this and his head and his neck down in an obsequious manner.

I'm referring to Les Wexner and the pauses, the words and the nervous laughing.

I mean, he was shitting himself.

This was a, that, that I know.

I'd love to know more detail than that from someone who's an expert, but this is one

of the world's most powerful men, a billionaire to the nth degree who's gotten away with a lot

of things in my opinion, pretty clear, that look like a scared abandoned dog in a corner

for sure.

So let's get to the first one here.

This is where he discusses basically the bone of feedays that Jeffrey Epstein offered

him.

I think it was his experience at an industrial level, I think, for a big company like Bear

Sterns and they had done personal work for the Rothschild family in France.

No wealth management, essentially.

I don't know.

We've seen the playports that he would present himself as a bounty hunter, that he would

find people's missing money.

Do you recall him saying anything like that?

No.

Link read again.

See that?

See his eyes?

Well, specifically, I talked to Ellie DeRothschild and said mention that earlier.

So he represented their whole family, said that a whole bunch of people, I mean, most

of them might never would have met a new Ellie, they never met people, but there were

people that called me that either insinuated or said they were Jeffrey through a financial

relationship, and so I mean, they could have been actors, but at the time, a guy calls

me up.

I'll give you an example.

Just watch it now.

Because I wouldn't understand this.

It's so confusing to me.

He would say like, I'm providing financial advice to the founders of Google.

I'm providing financial advice to Jeff Bezos.

Jeff Bezos is pondering right now, just damn it.

I mean, good company, because these are really smart guys with a lot of money.

And you have to put yourself in the mindset.

All right.

Pause it.

You also interesting the Google and guys and Bezos wouldn't be relevant for that type

of clout until at least the early 2000s for that to be said.

And he began his relationship with Epstein in the mid 80s.

So the one to focus in on is he talked to Ellie to Rothschild.

Another thing that happened is he was asked about Bob Meister who introduced him to Epstein.

And he was asked if Meister ever warned him about Epstein.

He says, no, can we play this real quick?

I don't remember.

And how did you first come to me at Mr. Epstein?

Was really by accident.

By accident?

I was friend with a couple of Bob and Wendy Meister.

And I was in Florida and I'd never been to Florida.

They would drive me around, show me what South Florida looked like.

And they showed me the breakers, so tell me, we were just driving around the driveway.

And Bob stopped the car and he said, there's somebody you should meet, a really smart

savvy guy in Jeffrey Epstein.

And so they stopped the car.

I was sitting in the back seat and they introduced me to Jeffrey and we drove off.

I was about to.

So at that time, you had no knowledge of Mr. Epstein until Mr. Meister introduced you

to him, never heard of him, never saw him, never met him.

Did Mr. Meister ever raise any concerns about Mr. Epstein?

No.

He didn't.

All right, pause it there.

In 2021, there's a second part to this post if you x out of that.

Yeah, there it is.

In Vanity Fair, this is list, I'll just read it off.

Wexner met Epstein sometime around 1986.

They were introduced by Wexner's close friend, the insurance mogul Robert Meister, who's

firm handled insurance for the limited company.

I spoke with Meister in April and he opened up for the first time about the origins of Wexner

and Epstein's relationship.

Meister, whose estimation of Epstein had done a total 180, gave his friend a general warning

about his character.

Meister says he and his wife Wendy warned Wexner to stay away from Epstein.

You know, I'm actually more inclined to believe less Wexner on this one.

That to me seems like a post Epstein having shit happen.

People ducking and covering and acting like they always saw through it, like we've called

out so many other people for.

So less Wexner might actually be telling the truth about Meister right there.

It's interesting, though, because we immediately have a discrepancy between two people discussed

in an on the record deposition, which means if he's not telling the truth, there's an

example of what could be one of many examples of perjury.

Let's also pull up the close friends one.

This is so fucking good.

All right.

Shall we?

Yep.

Ben reported repeatedly that you were close friends with Meister Epstein.

Why do you think people would come to that conclusion?

Objection here, sir.

Blink, right?

Speculation, because he would tell him that.

He told me he was friends.

I mean, he told me that you were friends with Bill Clinton.

I would believe it, or if anybody told me somebody was a friend, I would believe it.

So I think the perspective that I have now, and I think it's really important for this

group to understand, is it as I look back at it, I was conned by the world, a limbic,

all-time con artist, and you look at, I read in the news all the people he knew, royalty,

things, princes, and all that, an incredible con artist.

All right, Paul.

Do you think?

So a man worth fucking billions of dollars who owns all these huge companies, who signed

over power of attorney, Jeffrey Epstein, who gave him the biggest townhouse in Manhattan

and most historic townhouse in Manhattan for $10, who handed over all of his finances

to him and apparently didn't have enough fucking foresight to even talk to him on a daily

basis about it, because in another part of his deposition, he talks about how he was under

the impression that Epstein had other clients, meaning he wasn't full-time for the fucking

guy.

I mean, he wasn't running a full-time, Leslie Wexner family office, which he does need

with that much money.

You tell him me that for that many years, for at least two decades, and that's if he's

to be believed that he cut ties in 2007, which I do not believe.

But for at least two decades, and maybe three plus, he trusted Jeffrey Epstein to the

tee and was completely conned and never once had a thought about, you know, maybe, maybe

this guy who's like a college robber from Coney Island, I never know, I never know what

he's doing.

I never know what's going on.

I go, is he, you know, he just said he represented these people and I just, but maybe I should

look at this.

And maybe at the very least, I should diversify my holdings, maybe I should take a billion

and give it to another fucking manager somewhere else.

I don't know.

Maybe Bill Ackman would do it.

I'm sure he would have been much obliged.

He's like Stephen J. Lockjaw on one battle after another.

He's like, I was raped in reverse, you know.

You were raped in reverse.

The enemy sought what I had and decided that it was more valuable, my power.

She was a seamen demon.

That's literally what he's literally pulling the rape in reverse.

Oh, that's crazy.

That's so good.

That's so good.

Whenever we're talking about Wexner here too, as well, obviously we're trying to find

all the hardcore evidence beyond just the helping Epstein facilitate all this stuff that

could point to Wexner, participating in things like this or being involved in the trafficking

directly, you're going to hear from an Epstein survivor I had in who discusses how the trafficking

would happen in the modeling world, which is, you know, this is the guy who ran Victoria's

Secret.

That is the Famous Victoria's Secret Fashion Show.

You're involved in that world when you're doing that.

It's not to say right there, that means you're guilty, but like it was a very common thing

where women would just be taken around as escorts and girls, underage girls would have

that happen.

If you remember in the 2020 James Patterson Netflix documentary about Epstein, Maria

Farmer, one of the survivors was in that and she was the artist and she was drawing throughout

the documentary and they showed it at the end when she was done.

She was drawing this huge mural, deep as it up on the screen, called The Sea Tiles, which

was like a reptilian kind of thing of all the evil people she came across from Epstein

to Clinton to, there's just a million different people on there.

But she specifically made Lex Wexner, or Lex Wexner, the head of the actual snake coming

out of the ground because she viewed him as the head of the whole operation.

And I may remind you, Maria Farmer, her sister was also a survivor as well.

Maria Farmer was Jeffrey Epstein's office assistant for a long time.

She was around him for a while and saw a lot of things, doesn't mean every day, like

I can't therefore say that means every single claim is real.

I'm inclined to believe her on a lot of things and it's funny when people put a lot of

stuff that may be inconvenient to how the world order functions aside when a victim says

it who is there.

We're seeing this again and again and again and it's just pissing me off to no end.

Dave down at the bottom, just a check in on our favorite friend, I got to get that before

we leave.

A check in?

Yeah.

And put a link there.

I've talked about how much these people hate you, this micro elite and how much they

laugh in your face because they can, they can just get away with it.

And I have genuine contempt for a guy like Howard Lutnik, I really do.

This is Howard Lutnik at the State of the Union the other night.

With the audacity, there's no volume to it, Dave, you don't need it.

With the audacity to show his face on camera, let's just play it for people.

Look at him shaking hands with everyone smiling, glad hand in, says, what's up to Chuck

Schumer?

Good to see you again, sir.

Goes out Roberts, watch Robert's body language here, Chief Justice.

He wants nothing to fucking do with the guy.

But this is what they do.

He's continuing his job.

He's pretending nothing happens.

He's pretending that he didn't, he's not a complete bold face liar.

He's pretending that it's not extremely weird that he was neighbors with the guy for

so long, one Jeffrey Epstein.

He's pretending that none of it is the case and he can just continue doing what he does

and the president allows it to happen.

And I just find that so, so wrong.

And I started this point earlier, but I want to close on this because I got off it.

And I talked about how this really is such a red line for me and I have to admit sometimes

like it's got me to the point where my emotions aren't in check.

That's something, you know, I know how to change the volume in an appropriate way on

on a podcast.

I've been doing this a long time.

I enjoy that.

And you know, sometimes you can laugh really loud or, you know, get worked up about something

in a healthy way.

And like I said, the first time I got worked up about Lutnik a few weeks ago was just

raw and real and that was fine.

It is what it is.

But I begin worked up on and off camera a little bit about this, you know, where I can

feel my blood pressure actually rising.

And I like to get a little better control of that because as angry as this makes me and

as angry as it should make many of you or pretty much fucking anyone who really looks

at this case, you know, me sitting here and constantly screaming about it is not going

to make things better.

And if you're doing the same thing, that's not going to make things better either.

We have to sift through this stuff as awful as some of it is and look at this with as much

of a balance head.

Does that mean that I can't get a little bit worked up?

No, I think that's fine.

But I just want to admit that like I have definitely I can feel it.

I can feel it in some podcasts where I'm getting mad and that's just not it's not normal.

I'm someone that usually has great control of that, but it's telling me that there's

just something so signically different about this one that it's gotten me to that point.

So if you're hearing some of that and some of the podcasts and it's a little much, I

apologize for that.

Again, I'm not going to apologize for looking into this case and feeling a certain type

of way about it, but I'll try to keep some of that under check.

And if there's a moment where it really doesn't need to be under check because it's ridiculous,

I'll try to make that call and I hope it's the appropriate call when I do, but I don't

want to be just out here fucking screaming for streams all the time.

That's certainly not not the objective.

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