Problems & Solutions in the World

0:00Welcome to the Real Power Family Radio Show, brought to you by Family Success Triangle. Where we talk about how we achieved financial freedom in two years by the time we were 30. If we can do it, so can you. We will bring you the people who can help you achieve financial freedom, time freedom, and location freedom. Learn how we integrated our business, investing and homeschooling into everyday life. Now, here is the Real Power Family, Eric, Lila, Devon, and Ethan. Welcome to the Real Power Family Radio Show. Today we have my mom, Lila, and me, and we are going to be talking about something interesting. Mom, what do we have? Well, you and I were talking this morning because there's a lot of problems in the world, and a lot of people are very frustrated about it. And people keep pointing fingers in all these different directions. So it's this person's problem or that issue with the world. And they'll blame governments and they'll blame heck for a while.

1:02People were thinking that the Rockefeller family was like the begin-all and end-all of evil. And so I've been learning a lot of different things because obviously I don't want to take on a bias. We all have biases. And if I sit here and think, okay, JD Rockefeller is the beginning of all this evil. Well, that's great. You can sit there and pick on the guy, but really when you start learning more about him, there's a lot I learned that I respect about this guy. He started with nothing. He built up this huge company. He learned how to work with lots of different people. Like I have a lot of respect for some of the things that he did. No, I don't agree with everything. I say that, but I can't say that about everybody. There's a lot of people out there that they do some things well and they do some things that aren't really good. And so we've got to kind of look at what Eric would call the big picture. And I learned about the Rockefellers really gave me a large big picture view of how things

2:03happened over the last 125 years. Because really, you know, I wanted to blame him for a lot of problems. You got to look at some of the things he did. He started the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research, which that pioneered the use of vaccines, antibiotics, pharmaceuticals. Now the problem with that is because he wanted to control those, those items, he made natural therapies, something that were frowned upon, looked down on, thought it was some sort of fraud and made illegal in some places. So he had a lot of influence and that of course can be used for good or bad. So I'd like to say if he hadn't started all this, you know, would we have been able to prevent some of the problems that we've encountered since then when it comes to medicine. And we could get into, you know, how they changed medical education and why they were telling doctors not to use this natural, we could get into a lot of things I don't agree with.

3:04But really, I think he had good intentions when he started some of these things. Yeah, and like the school, the modern school system, he created and funded the general education board and you know, I am not a fan of some top tier education system telling everybody how they should do things. That's why I like homeschooling. But yeah, continue. We're a big fan of homeschooling and while it's not, the school was never perfect, especially now, when it started, it got people off of the foam and into factories, which at least for some people that was an improvement. And he, whatever Rockefeller thought that was a better thing for people, a better place for people. And so he really thought he was doing the best. Plus wasn't he the one that got Napoleon Hill started with what became Think and Grow Rich?

4:09That's very possible. I don't remember reading the book, but it's been a very long time. I'm going to look that up just to verify. No, that's good. I'd rather give people good information because the book Think and Grow Rich is such a good book. That is on our reading list. If you want to see what it's all on our list, you can go to realpowerfamily.com. Click on the announcements page and you can look at all the books that we recommend because they made a big impact for us. Did you find it, Devon? No, that was Carnegie. Andrew Carnegie. Ah, okay. And Carnegie and Rockefeller did partner on something. So they were at least knowledgeable of each other and had worked together before. But I don't know how deep that relationship went. It's hard to tell. But yeah, that obviously one of the things I liked about Rockefeller was when he taught his kids to essentially take the family legacy forward. He taught them well because Rockefeller, Jr., essentially, was very, he really wanted to do what his dad wanted him to do,

5:13which is to take that family legacy forward to keep the family fortunate and tact and grow it. He had the right concept. He wanted to keep the business running smoothly. Like all these things that he taught his son that you don't see with every single family legacy. Like we've talked before about family businesses almost never make it to the fourth generation. Yeah. So by the time you get to the second generation, sometimes it's falling apart. So for the Rockefellers to start something and be able to pass it on and do it successfully. And they've done that for four generations so far successfully. And I have to give him some props because whatever he was doing with his kids and with his family, he did it the right way. So whether you like the guy you don't like the guy you've got to admit, how he passed things along with his family works. So that system is good. And we really should be learning what he did right so that if we want to do the same things, we can emulate that. Does that make sense? Yeah. We want to be learning from other people's successes

6:18and failures. That way we can do what they did well and avoid doing or avoid making the same mistakes. It's why it's so great to have a mentor and to read a lot of the books or listen to people on podcasts that have been successful, especially at the things you want to be successful at. Yeah. That's one of the things. Again, you don't even have to know the person personally for them to make a difference for you. A lot of the people I learned a lot from, or some of again, these books that we recommend to people, learning from those, you're still learning from these people, even if they're no longer alive, but the lessons they can teach you from what they wrote in a book or maybe what they've got on a podcast, there is so much you can learn from people to make your life and your family's life better. You've got to get advantage of that anytime you can. Exactly. Take full advantage of anything you can learn. How often, Mom, are we giving away free

7:24information wherever we can? I mean, we've got a free weekly newsletter that you put out. Yeah. The weekly newsletter, we've got our website, we've got all sorts of education on there. Obviously, we've got our YouTube channel and our Roku. There's so many things we have out there that hopefully you get a little bit of entertainment along with education, but the goal is to make your world a better place. Just like we told you every night, Devon, we've got to make the world a better place. Yeah, make the world a better place. That's what you told me every night. And it's basically been my goal. And so that's one of the reasons we've got this radio show because we want to help the people out there. So for all of you who have written in and sent in questions, hopefully we have gotten them all answered. We always appreciate those. We throw them into shows all the time. Sometimes we read them directly on the air. We want to make sure that that information is getting out there because of one person has a question and emails in. There's probably a hundred others that have the same question that just didn't email in. So we do try to share a lot of that information so that you're getting

8:27what's pertinent to you. Because if we hear from one person, we figure there's more out there that want to know that answer. So if you do want to email any questions, you can email in where to, Devon. They can email in to info at realpowerfamily.com or they can call in. Mom, do you happen to have that phone number? It is 833B do have. And if Ethan were here, he could tell you what all those numbers are as well. Yeah, I didn't have the numbers pulled up, but give me a second. I think I have them right here. Yeah, that's 83323364 to a call in. Apparently, we don't have texting functionality. I wish we did, but some people have emailed or have texted into brushwood and they do pass along the information when we when they can. So we can get things that way through brushwood, but not on our phone numbers, but you can leave us a message if you don't get us directly. We do listen to all those messages as well and hopefully can bring you the information based on that. So Devon getting back to the Rockefellers. Can we talk

9:29a little more about that? Sure. What else have they done? So we talked about some of the things that I really appreciated. And I know you've got to look at both sides of the coin, right? Robert Kiesa talks about how you can look at the head side, you can look at the tail side, and really you need to be standing on that third side, which is the edge so you can see both of the other sides. So, you know, Rockefeller was doing all these big things that people hadn't really heard of before. You know, he was, he had grown his company very large and people called it progress in the beginning. And back then we didn't have the cancel culture that we have now. So there was actually a lady named Ida Tarbel that had written a 19-part series on Rockefeller. And she was essentially talking about some of the things he did that weren't so great. You know, the other side of the coin. He talked about some of the backdoor deals that really were not overly ethical. And she really brought a lot of things to light. Now her goal was to make people realize that a monopoly is not progress, but

10:32predation. And you can make our position. And praying on people using your advantage to take advantage of other people. And if you're the only game in town, well, you can kind of create your own terms. So I can see where she'd come up with that standpoint. I also can look at the standpoint of what did he accomplish that no other company did that actually helped things. So there's good and bad on both sides of that. But the thing I like about Ida was that she made people question. And we can talk more about that right after this break. I am Ethan Rollin from the Real Power family. My book The Treehouse is a story about a group of teenagers looking for a place to their own with some scrap wood and a lot of help from their friends and neighbors. They built a tree house relationships and a dream that turned into a business. Get a copy of The Treehouse by Ethan Rollin on Amazon today. And don't forget to listen to my family on the Real Power family radio show on the Brushwood Media Network weekdays at 7 a.m.

11:39Welcome back to The Real Power family radio show. Mom, you were talking about how like the Rockefeller was becoming one to become or became a monopoly in their business. And yet there was a person saying how that's not necessarily a good thing. And you were talking about how good is that they question. And I'd say a monopoly is generally bad unless they're a monopoly because of how good they are. It's not a forced monopoly. It's just that they are so much better than everyone else that people voluntarily choose to use them over everyone else. And again, you're looking at both sides of the coin, Devon. That's perfect. Yeah. That's where it seems to be a more good thing where it's not about just one part or one group being a monopoly. It's actually about who's providing the best product. Because that's what matters. Right. Like I look at people like Steve Jobs and what he created,

12:44creating tablets, which we didn't have before that, creating the iPhone, which I use and like. And it's very user friendly, easy stuff. Now I get a lot of people don't like that Apple stuff is not always compatible with other things. I get that. You're going to have good and bad and everything. But the fact that he became so wealthy because of what he provided, I think he earned it. If you look at when he wasn't even working for Apple, the things that he accomplished, you know, making music fair again so that we weren't having, you know, essentially a decade of not as great music. He was bringing back the incentives to make great music again. And I think the way he did that was great. I think what he did with Pixar, where he was making these great movies like Toy Story and Cars. Now, Granity did not have partnering with Disney for cars and in future films. But in the beginning, Pixar was a new thing and look what he did with that. So the fact that he could do all these different things in what I would call different industries,

13:46but still all business, he earned anything he got. He did such amazing things with technology. And the world would not be the same had he not done all of that. So I think we really need to be appreciative of some of that. Instead of looking at him and going, well, we don't need a billionaire, which is I think a Bernie Sanders item. But really, if you look at what some of these people have accomplished, they've earned it. Look at what Elon has done. He has earned it from what he has accomplished. No one was able to land a rocket. They essentially sent things out into space and it was almost lost money. He got something up there, but it wasn't coming back down. And look what Elon was able to accomplish. And in a short period of time, he did so much or he's done a lot for just getting us to space. He's gone so much further than pretty much any other group or company has. And far more than NASA's done, what, pretty much our entire lifetime, even your mom. Beyond mine, yes.

14:52Like, what's the last impressive or even close to useful thing they did land on the moon? That was kind of a while ago. That was before me. Yeah. Yeah, that was what my grandfather his time frame. I don't remember exactly. So yeah, we've got to look at what value are they providing? If they're getting a lot of value in return, that's good. That trade is a good trade. If they're if they're making money, money, being the store of value, it is you provided more value than you used and thus you have money left over. That's that's the idea of money. So if you provide more value and you get more stored value in return in the form of money, that is a great thing. It's the people that don't do that legally, ethically and morally, mainly the ethically and morally. That's when problems arise. Money is not bad. Money is not evil. It's people

15:53that thirst for power and hold money as the number one goal above anything else, including ethics and morals sometimes. That's when you get issues. Yeah, that's when we could start talking about some of the things the Rockefeller family did that I don't agree with. So for example, Rockefeller Jr. supported eugenics initiatives. He donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to encourage eugenics. Wait, wait. So the same company we're just talking about really encouraging vaccines was also encouraging eugenics? Yes. Interesting. Okay. And that includes with Nazi Germany. So you have to question what their thought process was because obviously that did not go well. Yeah, yeah, I'd say. And if you look at some of the other things they did, David Rockefeller, which is the grandson, he partnered up with Henry Kissinger. They really wanted to have this group of elites. They believe

16:55elites could guide governments when when public policies failed or politics failed. And so, you know, they David created the trilateral commission and that's really an organization that's promoting globalization, which in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. But the way that they have gone about it, they're acting essentially like a shadow government of elites. And when you've got the mindset that somehow you are better than somebody else on this planet, that's where problems in my opinion start. Because if you think I'm better than you, I make better decisions than you. So I should be able to have kids and you shouldn't. So we should give you this vaccine that makes you infertile. When you start having that kind of thought process or hey, I should be in charge of telling everybody else what to do because I think I'm more valuable than somebody else. But I believe every human life has value, every single one. And I don't think one person is more important than somebody else. Maybe somebody else didn't grow up with the right education, didn't

18:01learn all the right things, doesn't make us good at decisions. But is that a factor of how they were born? No. It's what happened to them after that and how they reacted to it. So can we make that a better situation? I think we can. And I think we really need to be looking at if we're going to make the world a better place, how can we do that? For example, Devon, we talked about education. I told you, I think school is problematic. We are schooling people instead of educating them. And what is that leading to? It's leading to poverty. It's leading to people making bad decisions. It's leading to a lack of knowledge or worse. Worse. Thinking something is real or true when it isn't. If you listen to Mark Twain, I love his quote. It's not what you know that'll get you. It's what you know that just ain't so. Or it's something along those lines anyway. Yeah. And really, is that not the case? It's not what you don't know about. But when you're so sure of something that isn't actually true,

19:05that causes issues. When I have to admit, I had that problem because when I was in school and I wanted to be a doctor, I believed vaccines were the beginning and endalling. Yes, if there's one out there, you should go take it. I never stopped to question or go back and look at any research or look at any studies. I had that opinion based on what I was told, but not on any actual facts. That's why I love when somebody else is out there giving out a fact that flies in the face of everything you might believe to be true. And I still remember sitting in a conference and listening to a lady up on stage talking about all the bad of vaccines, things I had never heard before I didn't know about. And I didn't believe her. I'm literally sitting in the office and the audience thinking, this lady's crazy. But then I went home and I did my own research. And then I started to question. And really, that's all I can ask of anybody. You don't have to agree with

20:08somebody. But if they're saying something that's going to affect you, you need to stop question and take the time to do your own research so you can make an intelligent decision for yourself. That's the best I can ask of anybody. Do you agree, Devon? Absolutely. Always question, always be working to learn and better your life. Don't immediately dismiss any idea, no matter how crazy it seems. And we can talk more about all of this right after this brain. Devon, what was your first investment? My first investment was in silver. And we buy our gold from American Gold Exchange, which you can reach them by calling 800-613-9323, or by visiting AMERgold.com. Make sure you check out American Gold Exchange at AMERgold.com. Gold has been money

21:08for over 6,000 years. And with the Gold to Silver ratio of around 100 right now, there has never been a better time to buy silver. Welcome back to the Real Power Family Radio Show. Today we have been talking about some issues in the world and how we can solve them. Mom, what else do you have for us to talk about today? Well, I found it interesting that a Gallup poll reported 89% of America sees widespread corruption in government. That that standalone was very interesting to me because you and I were talking about how we've got kind of a lack of morals and ethics going on in the world and it's causing a lot of the problems that we see. Yes. The fact that almost 90% of Americans are noticing that just in relation to their government is telling me maybe people are starting to wake up. Maybe they are starting to question more. And I think that's a good turn of events. Yeah, it absolutely is a good turn because that means people are learning, people are realizing and that means we can change it. We can do something about

22:12stuff. Number one, you have to admit that you have a problem. We have a problem. So really the fact that this is going on is is a good news to me. Even though it's a stat that's the first time you hear it, you might be kind of shocked by it. But the fact that we now know that there may be a problem, we have the ability to go and fix that. And the problem I think a lot of Americans get into or people over on the world is you see a problem. You may not know what the solution is. And that was one of the things you and I were talking about, Devon, we got in a conversation on a drive back from Tennessee when it was just you and me about a lot of the problems that we're seeing that we may not have all of the answers to, but at least we can recognize here are the problems that exist. Here's where we think the root of them are. And really you made a great comment because we ended up talking about the seven deadly sins and how they're appearing in our world today. And I think those things are leading to so many of the problems that we're seeing. And we don't even realize how much of a role they're playing. Because when you think of these things,

23:17you think of the old Bible stuff. But in today's society, you can see it so clearly. And some of it is stuff that I grew up with to the point that I didn't even realize until you brought up some things because Gen Z is seeing things vastly differently than Gen X did. So you were bringing up things I hadn't realized in our own society and culture because to me I grew up in it and it was just kind of normal. Yeah, I don't remember or I don't know exactly what you're referring to, but I know I was talking about Gen Z and how like for a lot of us, we just didn't have a place or don't have a place most of the time. Especially like the younger generation under 18 is kind of being closed out of everywhere. It's like where do you go to hang out with your friends? Well, we don't exactly have going in person anymore, especially because frequently friend groups can be all over the country or even the world. I know a lot of my friends are in other countries. It's like one I talk to, when the friends I talk to

24:21the most, is six hours different for time frames or for time zones. Actually five, sometimes six when I'm in Tennessee. Anyway, and in my generation, if you wanted to know where all the kids were, you just look for the bikes in the front yard and that's how everybody was. They were at that house. It was so easy to find people. You didn't need a tracking app. You just look for bikes. And it was perfect. And yet we don't have that the same way anymore. Well, you were even asking me, how did I when I was a teenager get together with other teenagers? And yeah, we would go to each other's houses. I was telling you we would walk around the mall, not actually to shop just to walk around and talk and be out there with each other. We had arcades, which really aren't a big thing anymore. We do still have things like skating rinks. I guess you've got Dave and Buster's. I'm not sure that counts as a really good socialization area. I don't know that any of those do because,

25:24I mean, what do you do with those? Dave and Buster's where you pretty much are by yourself or the skating rink where there's not a whole lot of conversation. True. True. We did discuss that's one of the problems. Like, somebody your age that wants to find a date to be able to, you can't just go to a skating center and hope you're going to strike up a conversation while you're what? Skating in a circle around the ring? Yeah. It doesn't happen as easily or as well as you'd think it might. And don't get me wrong. It's not impossible. It's just less likely and a lot of people don't even want the, don't even want to try and start up a conversation. Like, oh, why are you talking to me? Is sometimes the impression. Well, and I think part of that comes from, if you look at the really young kids, you guys were brought up this way. They're on phones. They're on tablets. The family goes to a restaurant, but the youngest child is actually playing on a digital device and not

26:29part of the conversation. So how are they learning to socialize? That was one of the things I never understood. I get you want a digital babysitter. I get it's easier, but the child is not learning the right things when you're doing that kind of activity. And it's not that you can't have a tablet. It's not that they can't play on a digital device, but it should be very intentional about when, how long, where, all of these different things. And we're using it for convenience at this point, instead of being intentional about using it for learning or for entertainment. Exactly. And when you're just do whatever is easier, you just get whatever you get. And so people are mostly on social media at your age. Well, I don't think social media is all that social. No, it really isn't. I get on there and I'll try to scroll through some comments. And sometimes it's interesting to read a few things, but I get bored very, very quickly because it's not an

27:29interaction. It's a they're saying something and I'm reading it and I might reply, but it's not like a conversation where I'm going to get a reply right back. It's a very slow, not very social kind of interaction. And I like it better when I'm face to face with somebody. I can see their facial expressions. I can tell whether they're interested in the topic or we need to change topics. I think sometimes doing this radio show is even hard because I can't see the audience's participation. Are you enjoying it? Do I need to change to a different topic? Do you need me to like go into more detail because you're trying to understand and aren't quite there yet? That is very difficult when you don't have that face to face interaction. At least if you're making a phone call, you can do something called FaceTime. And then you can actually get a little bit of that. So it's better, but it's still not as good as being in person. Devon, you and your dad made the comment that it's so much easier to speak in front of a group in person because you can feel the energy of the audience.

28:34Can you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, when you're standing up in front of a group, you can feel what you said about the energy. I don't know how to describe it. You kind of just have to feel it. And yet you really can just feel the energy there and see are people happy or people enjoying it? Or are people tired? Do they want to go home? In which perhaps you need to do something to wake them up? It is kind of the idea. Right, because the whole goal of getting up to speak with them is to educate them on something or teach them something. And if they aren't understanding or they aren't interested in the way you're presenting it, you've got to know so you can adjust right away. And if you can't get that kind of adjustment in that moment, then what you're trying to get across to them, what you hope is going to make a difference for them may not land and it may not make a difference at all. And so we're back to the whole socialization aspect. Our culture has just

29:36gotten so digital and so distant that we're not encouraging the same kind of interaction that we used to get. We need to start returning to some of the old style ways. If we want to get some of the old style results, unless we can come up with a better idea that can get us better results now. Exactly. We need to do something different if we want to get different results. If you keep doing what you have always done, you'll keep getting what you have always got. Exactly. Nice way to quote your dad. I'm not sure that was originally my dad, but I appreciate that. But yeah, that's one of the things that I learned from him because I grew up thinking that there was only one way to do things. The only right answer is the answer in the back of the book. It's all the things I learned in school. And he kind of turned all that on his head and said, well, what about this? And he'd give me examples. And all of a sudden I started realizing, wow, the world is not as black and white as my

30:36teachers tried to teach me that it was. And that opened up a lot of a bigger picture for me, even if I didn't understand the term bigger picture at that time. Because it led me to question more about, oh, is there a different way to get a good answer? And your dad was great at that. Like I would figure out an answer the exact way that the book told me to. Your dad would go about it in this creative way and get the same answer or even better, sometimes a more accurate answer. And he'd be like, oh, yeah, there's these significant figures. He just somehow knew how to think around a problem, even if it wasn't the same way somebody taught him how to think around it. And I think there's a talent to that that we're missing in today's world. Because we're not teaching the kids the critical thinking that they need. My favorite fortune cookie ever says something to the extent that the whole goal of education is not to teach you what to think, but to teach you how to think. And I learned I got that fortune cookie after we started with Harv and

31:39I was learning what real education was. And so I've kept that fortune cookie all these years. Well, not the cookie itself, just the piece of paper. Because I think that is so true. We need to be teaching our kids those critical thinking skills, how to think through a problem, how to solve that problem, not based on what's in the back of the book, but what can they create that's so much better. And one of my favorite stories, I can't remember who told it anymore. But a guy was late to class and he shows up and there's all these problems on the board. So he figures that's the homework. So he writes them down and he goes home and figures out the answers and it takes him a while. It's really hard questions. But you know, he gets it done and he turns it into his professor. And his professor literally calls on the next morning and says, you got to where did you get these answers from? And he goes, why just solve the problems you had on the board and he features like, but these were unsolvable problems. So the kid didn't know that. He just thought this was the homework. He didn't know it was supposed to be unsolvable. So he solved them. And I think that's

32:41a lesson for all of us because it's not about the answer in the back of the book. It's not about whether something is quote unquote impossible. It's about what can we do with it? And how can we solve that problem? And we can talk more about all of this right after this break. In Ohio, property taxes have skyrocketed with recent budgets ignoring the crisis, forcing families and seniors out of their cherished homes. It's unfair. No one should be evicted from their lifelong investment. Support our constitutional amendment abolishing property taxes, making school funding fair and constitutional for all districts via state dollars, fire and police stay fully funded. We'll shift to consumption and income taxes with smart legislation ensuring gradual phases and no burdens on low income families. Best of all, it ends corrupt developer giveaways politicians fear losing. It's time to force politicians to prioritize the people of Ohio. You should own your home free and clear. Sign the petition today

33:47for the 2026 ballot. Go to citizens for property tax reform dot org to learn more and join the site. Welcome back to the real power family radio show where school or parents you should be teaching us kids not what to think but how to think. If we can think through if we can solve problems, then it doesn't matter what life throws at us because we'll always be ready for it. If we only know the specific answers that are in the back of the book that we're supposed to solve this problem in this way, how are we supposed to use that? Well, and I was one of those students that I was so good at memorizing stuff. And so I would memorize it and I would regurgitate it on the test and I could get the answer in the back of the book most of the time. So I got a's. But then I would get out in the real world and I would have a real world problem. And suddenly I didn't have that access.

34:48I didn't have that same here. Memorize this and regurgitate it for me. And so in the real world, what I thought I had learned was not very useful because what I learned is just to essentially bring up the same thing they already taught me. And real world problems sometimes don't come with an answer key. They they they surprise you. They challenge you. They rarely come with an answer key. I've yet to see a real life problem with a real answer key. And every parent out there knows what I mean because raising kids does not come with an instruction manual. That is also true. It would be much easier if just they come out and oh hey, there's the book on how to raise a kid. But no, no, that'd be way too easy. I mean there are books out there. Even our book family success triangle is it gives you some hints here and there about what we did that worked so that you can try it in your own family. And I love talking to some of these homeschooling parents who say, yeah, I'm having this problem with my child. And if I can put them together with somebody else that's

35:51had a similar problem so they can talk about solutions, I think sometimes we get so focused on what can we do on our own, which is another thing school taught us, right? Is that don't work together. You can't cheat off your neighbor. But in the real world, if you don't have an answer, what do you do? You call somebody that might have the answer or that can help you think through it. This is why we have mastermind groups. This is why we have mentors because if you can talk to somebody else and they can maybe not have the answer, but even throw ideas back and forth, what solutions can we come up with together that will be so much better than what would ever have come up with alone? We can come up with massively better ideas working together. Then we could ever do working separately. So we need to be thinking about that as well when it comes not only to raising our kids and educating people, but how we approach our everyday life because if we get so focused, and I think that's one of the things that bothers me about social media not being so social,

36:52is that you can get some of that where people are throwing out different ideas and that's great. If you're okay with a long term looking back and forth, but I think the conversation that you can have that goes so much faster will speed up that process by a lot more. This is why we had our dinners at night, Devon. So we could get together and talk about here's a question, here's an answer, here's a question, here's a possible way to approach that. Here, like the whole conversation that would go on and sometimes they were boring everyday questions and sometimes they were really challenging, exciting ones. And you never know what's going to come up when you get a group of people together because sometimes it gets to be very unexpected. Yeah, really anything can happen and when you're working together, you can solve many of those problems. So that's one of the great great reasons to get together with people. That's one of the things I liked about the real estate investment groups. When we get started investing in real estate, we knew nothing. We literally knew

37:54nothing. I mean, we knew rentals existed because we had rented. We knew that Eric's mom had some rentals. So she could share a little bit of her knowledge with us. But when we got together with people that had five times more than she did and could tell us how they were doing things differently, that to me was fascinating because handling one or two properties is one thing. But if you've got hundreds, you've got to do things differently. And so you need to find the person that's doing what you want to do to the scale you want to be doing it so that you can grow to that level as well. Exactly. So again, I guess we're back to problems of the world. I might have to be our show title. Problems and solutions for the world. Oh, I like that. Okay. Next one. Well, because you're right, isn't it just about the problem? It's about finding the solution. So we find solutions to the problems. Well, let's talk about some of the deadly sins and how they're appearing in our world today.

38:57And some of the things we can do to essentially combat that. Can we do that? Sure. So let's start with pride. That's a good one, right? That might be thinking we're better than somebody else. It might be creating a fake personality for social media so that people will like you more. You'll get more likes or you'll be more interesting. There seems to be like a fight to be a big influencer. And the problem that I see with that is a lot of those people they're more concerned with their importance than they are with their impact. And if you want to influence people, shouldn't it be the other way around? Yeah, really should be the other way around. We should be working to make an impact not just do not just looking for the validation of others in telling us were important. Thank you. That's what I was looking for. Yeah, but that's really what it comes down to. And that's one of the problems I see in the world today is people keep thanking us for being real and it just makes me laugh because I flow up on the show or

39:59Eric will bring up a mistake I made. And maybe I should be embarrassed about that, but I'm not. Because in the long run, if somebody else is making the same mistakes as me, maybe they can learn from that. Maybe they can avoid the mistakes I've made because they hear that. So I guess I just don't worry about that. I'm not concerned with whether I'm important. I am concerned with whether something that we say or do can make somebody else's world a better place. We're back to that. And really, I think the focus just needs to be away from ourselves and onto the other person. When I first started speaking in front of groups, I was so scared. I did not want to be in front of a group of people. I was so afraid I would say the wrong thing or I would start to say it and no words would come out. Like I had all these fears. And my acting class teacher made a great comment to me. He goes, you can't be worried about yourself in any given moment. He goes, you're there for your audience. So what can you deliver or give to them that will be a value to them? And so when I'm

41:02in front of a group of people now, it's not about me. It's not about whether I look cute or I have all the perfect words to say, it's about what can I deliver to the people listening that might be a value. So we can take that that focus away from ourself and put it towards the person we want to help. I think that will be more important than anything else we can do and it will take pride completely out of the equation. Yeah, don't think you're better than anyone else, no matter what you have done or no matter what you're doing. You really, none of us are any better. We all make mistakes. We all have our issues and we all have to learn from that and move on. We're all human at the end of the day, no matter how good or how bad someone may seem, everyone is human. And we've got to remember that and we've also got to remember every single human life has value. Everyone. When I say all lives matter, I mean, everyone. So let's move on to the next one. Let's talk about

42:04envy because you hear a lot of people comparing themselves to somebody else and this can be a problem. If you are very resentful that somebody else has something you don't, then you've got a problem. And the way Harve said it is, if you resent that somebody else has something, you can never be like them. Therefore, you can never have those same things. So what you should be doing is looking at them and saying, look, they have this really nice car or this beautiful house or this great family and say, what did they do that I can also do to get me a better result? So you need to appreciate the fact that they have those things not resented. Think about how awesome it is that they manage to build whatever it is that they have. It's like, oh, wow, they've made almost a trillion dollars. That's incredible. I wonder how they did that. So I could do something even if not to that extent, something equally incredible. And we've got more we've got to go over but we can do

43:06that right after this break. Hi, this is Eric Wohen from the Real Power Family and best selling author of Family Success Trangle. Learn how my wife and I became financially free by the time we were only 30 and how we taught these seekers to our kids so they could do the same without any of our money or credit when they were just teenagers. Pick up a copy of our book Family Success Trangle available on Amazon today and don't forget to tune in to the Real Power Family Radio show. Weekdays at 7 a.m. Eastern on the Brushwood Media Network. Welcome back to the Real Power Family Radio show. Mom, where did you want to go next? We can do greed next. I have to do these aren't really in any particular order. So we might as well take them as they're coming up. Fair enough. Greed in today's society in my opinion should be very apparent and yet we don't see it that way. Something as simple as instant gratification could be considered greed. It is I see it I want it. I'm getting it now. Whether it's logical to get it to get it whether it's good for you to get it.

44:10That instant gratification could really fall under this category but I don't think that's something most people would have thought of. Yeah, probably not. Most people really a lot of people are going for instant gratification and don't care much about anything else. And yet where does that get them in the long run? So we need to be questioning this and I get it. We're a very consumer basis society where we're very focused on things. I want more things in my life and as a kid, you know, we get excited about the gift. Actually, if we're young enough, we get more excited about the box. The gift is in what we do about the gift. But at some point we start focusing on the things and that's push it us from every direction, from advertising, from the people we talk to, from music, from movies. It's all about the things and it's not things are great. Don't get me wrong, but they're not the beginning all and end all of the world, right? There are more important things.

45:10Having a lot of money or a lot of stuff can be good. If you use it, if it's logical to have it, but a lot of times it's not necessarily useful. It's not logical. It's just you want to have it for the sake of having it, I guess. Yeah. Not really. It's not logical. It's not healthy. It's not useful to you. It just ends up costing you a lot. And for some people, they can't tell when enough is enough. It's great to have a goal and want to reach it and work for it and get it. But when is enough enough? Another fortune cookie. Gotta love these things. Some of them are really good. Success is about getting what you want. Happiness is about wanting what you get. And the problem I think a lot of people get into is they're constantly in the chase. They constantly have to be going after something and they're never happy when they get it because they just want the chase again. And I think that

46:11comes down to greed. The guy that wants to provide well for his family that works 80, 90 hours a week, every week, seven days, misses all his kids, ball games. It's not that his intention is bad. But when is enough enough? When is being at your kids game more important than getting that extra dollar? So people really need to learn how to limit, learn how to look at what do we try to get from this? I laughed at your dad at one point. He had, he's like, well, I want to get so many units this year. And I said, okay, why? What's the end goal? Because it shouldn't be about just having more units. It's where do you want to go with that? Right? And so he really had to kind of think that through because what he said was actually what he did want, but not the reason he wanted it. And so we've got to start holding each other accountable to that and questioning what is it you really want? And where is the end? Where does that stop? Because if it's going to keep going,

47:12you're going to end up in a greed cycle. And where is that going with that? Yeah, we have. We have to be logical and intentional, know what you want, and be happy where you are every step of the way. Oh, absolutely. One of the things that almost every successful people person out there will say is that you have to be grateful every day for where you already are. And it doesn't, I've had the poorest of the poor tell me that, hey, I'm, I love this about my life. And I want to work towards this other thing. And that's great. Maybe, maybe your life isn't perfect now, but if you appreciate the fact that you have a roof over your head, you have food, you have a family that loves you. Then yes, you can still work towards all those other goals, but you've got to be very appreciative of what you have right now in every given moment. Because if you don't do that, if you don't think something is important enough to appreciate, then is it important enough to hold

48:14on to or are you just going to lose it? Hmm. And I think that's important. If you're not willing or able to hold on to something, then you'll end up losing it. So a really obvious sin that we haven't talked about is lust. And a lot of people that they are talking about, you know, being addicted to porn or being in the quote unquote hookup culture, meaning that you're just going to go sleep with whoever, because you can. And really, we have a lot of that portrayed in our movies and our magazines. If you look at how the media portrays men and women in very sexual ways, that's not healthy. What are you encouraging by doing that? So we need to we need to be questioning that too. And what really gives me a lot of hope for this one is some of your generation, Devon, they're still teenagers or they're just getting out of the teenage years and they realized that, you know, yeah, they had all the the new hormones they weren't used to. And so porn became one of those

49:15things that was very attractive to them. But then they realized all of the the detraction that that was actually causing for them. And they're they're finding God out of that. They're not high as an worth the everything just like with any other drug. Yes. Yes, like an addiction. And and the fact that some of your generation is smart at a very young age to realize that because my generation didn't all of our music was, you know, hard rock and and hair bands that that talked about essentially sleeping with different people and you know, all these very loose morals when it came to sexuality. And we thought that was normal growing them. And so to know that the there's a generation now that is saying, look, that's not necessarily what I want out of life. Here's what I think is healthier. I like the fact somebody's questioning that and doing something that they feel is healthier for them. Exactly. We are a lot of my generations looking and realizing, hey, maybe

50:15that's not what I want for my life. So that'll give me some hope. I'd love to see when you guys get older and and a little more experienced. If we get a drop in divorce rates for your generation because of what I see going on for people finding faith, people finding ethics and morals. And it's not all of your generation, but it's a bigger percentage than it ever was for mine. So I think that's hope. And I like seeing that. Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of good things happening. And I really hope it keeps going and gets better and better for us. And I think it could. I think my generation could be a nice step forward for everybody. Do you want to move on to the next one, Devon? Since we're getting lower on time. Sure. Glentany, you and I were literally driving driving back from Tennessee. And we had stopped and we got some drinks and snacks. And that was all good. And then we came to the next gas stop. And I said, do you need any more snacks? And you're like, no, I already had snacks.

51:18And I got to thinking about it. Wow. My brain just went, oh, we're going to stop. Let's go get some more junk food. And I had to stop and say, wait a second. That's not healthy for me. We need real food. So we're going to skip any more candy or chips or whatever else I might have picked up. But I would have fallen into that almost out of habit. So we kind of to look at what our habits really are. It's shocking how many habits we have just about, oh, I'm just going to get some snacks. And when you're doing that, it's usually not a healthy snack. When you're going to a gas station to get a snack, you're not going to get care at sticks. You're not going to be healthy. It's going to be something that probably isn't very good for you. And that's not the only example of gluttony that we see people talking about binge watching TV and movies all weekend. And I'm thinking you just spent literally two days doing nothing but watching TV. That to me falls right into gluttony, right? Yeah. It's you're spending more time watching TV than you are betting

52:24yourself spending time with God anything. And things people should question. So question it. Think about, is this going to be the best thing for me? Is this the most logical for me? What was it? Wasn't it Mark Victor Hansen who talked about if you're not already a millionaire, you can't afford to spend time or money on the TV. And it's not the bill every month. It's how much time you spend on it. Right. Because you can't create more time. You can create more dollars. You can create more a lot of other things, but you can't create more time. Exactly. And so if you want to if you want to have something different, you need to do something different. And absolutely. Getting rid of the TV, focusing more on books and reading. As my dad says, those who do not read are no different from those who cannot read or at least have no benefit over them. I think that's a great way to look at things. And you're right, Devon. We should be choosing what

53:27will get us further and and make us happy all at the same time instead of that. Again, I think that's somewhat down to the instant gratification. We just want to feel comfortable or feel good. So question that before you go doing more. Ask yourself again, one is enough enough. Exactly. What is your real goal? I had frequently questioned that and probably said a few times on this show, alone, what is your goal? What do you actually want? Is your goal just instant gratification? Because if that's all you actually care about logically, if that's what you really think you want, maybe go after that. You're not going to have long term because you're focused on the short. You can pick any one thing you want in life. Focus on that and you will get more of that. Will you focus on expanse? But you can only focus on so much at a time. I love it when you're quoting Harv. It's

54:27beautiful. So the next one we can talk about is one that I am absolutely guilty of from time to time. Sloth. Just not wanting to get out of bed this morning. Wanting to lay there and go, oh, I could lay here for like another half hour. But then I had to think I have this to do and that to do. And so essentially I got myself out of bed, but really that desire to just lay there for a while. That is an example of Sloth. Another example would be if we are distracting ourselves with social media or playing on our phones when we should be doing something else like a. I'm so busy scrolling TikToks that we can't actually get anything done. Yeah. Employers catching their workers that are playing on Facebook. Did that just happen recently? Well, no, not recently, but I did fire somebody for playing on Facebook when they should have been working. And apparently they had done it quite a bit, which essentially told me why they weren't accomplishing what I thought they should be able

55:28to accomplish. Ah, yeah, that that would do it. For procrastination's part of this, I was really good at that, especially as a teenager. That's Sloth. You're not preparing. You're just putting it off. And if you're so focused on putting it off, what are you getting done? Not a whole lot. Exactly. And then the last one, of course, is wrath. And if I still remember you and your brother, Devin, when you were posting things on like Instagram and you've had all these haters on social media. And I didn't think of is what negative personality or what negative thought process do you have to have to want to put that much hate out into the world? But really it comes down to wrath, right? Yeah. If you just want to hate so much, well, you're just going to put out hate into the world and probably just get hate and return. It's just going to be a very angry existence. And that does not sound like fun to me. That does not sound happy. No. Not to say that

56:32I'm perfect on any of these by any stretch of the imagination. There's several like the Sloth not doing things when I should procrastinating. Yep. Today. Today alone. I've had issues with that. And if the more you can better yourself and deal with these, the better off your life can really be. Well, and along with wrath, I think the cancel culture, the one thing somebody else to get canceled or silence because you don't agree with them. And then there's me. I'll go champion somebody like Ida Tarbel that was writing about Rockefeller. She was completely against the normal back then. But she found that that she thought people should know about and she reported on it. And I think we need more of that. I might not like what somebody has to say. I didn't like the lady on stage that was talking about vaccines not being good. And yet had she not done that, I would never have known there was another side to that coin that I should be looking at. So I think the wrath is actually

57:35going to get us in a worse condition than we are not only as a society, but also for our sharing of knowledge because I think it's only when we work together that we're going to solve a lot of these problems. Exactly. We have to work together. We have to do things together. And if we do that, if we can really work together, we can create a far better world. Mom, what are your last minute wrap-ups for today? I just want to go back to Mark Twain's quote. It's not what you know that's going to get you. It's what you know that just ain't so. So question everything. Devin? Question everything. Be creative and take action to make your world a better place. And we'll talk to you tomorrow. We hope you enjoyed the real power family radio show. Brought to you by Family Success Triangle. We want you and your family to be financially free so you can go where you want, when you want, with whomever you want. Learn how we can help you live the life you've always dreamed of at realpowerfamily.com. To hear more, subscribe to Real Power Family on YouTube.

58:43Until next time, go out and make the world a better place.