Professor Barbara Stone on the State of the Governor's Race

And we continue at 105 in the afternoon on the John Phillips show, Mr. Randy Wanks

and Culver City. Well, John, a lot of people thought it might be the Dodgers or the angels

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number 1-800-222-5222. It is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program. She

is a professor of political science emeritus at California State University at Fullerton,

Professor Barbara Stone. Welcome. Hey, John, be kind about the Dodgers. I can't help it if

neither the angel team nor their fans get that excited. Anyway. Hey, we started out the

season two and now. Yeah. Well, yeah. Okay. Hi, John. Nice to talk to you. All right.

Well, let's go ahead and get right into this governor's race because Eric Smallwell just

scooped up a big endorsement in Democratic Party politics, and that is the endorsement

of the California Teachers Association. We received an email from a listener who was in

the room when that decision was made. Apparently, it was back and forth between him and

Steyer, and it wasn't until the 11th hour that he eaked it out. You know, I'm going to go back.

It's the Democrats who always love original causes and problems, but that in a lot of ways

for the Democratic candidates. This really is much of a Gavin Newsom's fault. He sucks

up the air. He for prop 50 sucked up the money and nobody paid any attention to any of

these people until quite recently. And actually with Tom Steyer, given what he has spent

on TB advertising because he's the one that didn't affect. He should be dropping out

right now, people don't want him. But with that, they left it so until really recently,

and I'm not sure that it's still happening, the electorate is paying no attention to these

people, John. So you come up with an Eric Smallwell. What does he have to offer? He's literally

running against Donald Trump. That's it. I love his thing that he's the one Trump fears.

I don't think so. He doesn't talk about California issues, but that's because he doesn't know

anything about them. I think I said to somebody that he wouldn't talk about federal issues

either because he doesn't know anything about them either. He I think has the worst attendance

record in Congress or if not pretty close. So you have a guy who's nothing except a media

hog. And that's who's leading the Democratic charge. Dear Lord.

What is the biggest threat right now to Republicans in terms of trying to get to Republicans on

the November ballot? Is it that Democrats will coalesce behind Smallwell and he will escape

any kind of scandal that would kill off his campaign chances? Or would it be for Smallwell

to implode long before the voting starts and his support then to scatter all over the board

with one fewer candidate in the race and a candidate who was at the top of the heap? I don't know

if the Republicans could get two candidates on the November ballot without Smallwell in the race.

As long as he's in third. I'm not going to argue with you on that. It's interesting and in fact

just a little insight. I think the obsession with two Republicans on the ballot and how it could

happen appears to possess Democratic operatives and people such as you and I. John the general run

of even Republican activists I talk to do not know this. One of them grabbed me less than a

week ago going oh my god. Oh my god. Did you hear? Did you hear? We can get two Republicans on

if things happen. He hadn't heard it before then. He didn't know. So you have Republicans there and

the biggest threat from the Republican side is that they won't vote. Many think it's that they'll

go for one or the other and therefore you won't evenly distribute the vote. But the way things have

gone in this state I think your far bigger threat is that Republicans won't turn out because they

haven't been recently. So I will find out if our state and local parties are any good because

they've got to make it happen and that's the basis they've got to make it happen for. In terms

of the Democrats' coalescing I honestly don't know since I'm looking at what's next is Katie

Porter. That's a little hard to swallow and they have other candidates but it's difficult to tell

anybody will anyone popping out and the answer is I just don't know. By the way the reason you're

suddenly hearing about all their money is that the end of a reporting quarter is today and

anyone who's raised anything is leaking it so you're sure to get their numbers early.

They've put pressure on everybody and you're seeing pretty maximum fundraising right now.

Anyway John I simply don't know how it plays out on their side but I don't for a minute think they're

going to hold back going after Swalwell. To that point what do you make of the philosophy of

these Democrats and the single digits who seem to be aware that there is a push within the party to

coalesce behind Swalwell and they're not afraid of that. Now keep in mind it was a Virgoza

strategist who initially put out the tweet saying everyone in Democratic party politics knows about

the transgressions of Eric Swalwell regarding staffers and interns in his office and they know that

his campaign is eventually going to fizzle out because of it they just don't know when.

I would imagine that there seems to be the belief among those Democrats and single digits

that Swalwell is problematic enough to where they don't have to worry about him running away with

this thing. I think that's entirely possible and you know sometimes timing is everything by the way

if I were Swalwell I would not be threatened into Sue Cash Patel if he releases stuff on Fangfang

because other times calling attention to Fangfang might or might not be good but having

just taken down the image of Caesar Chavez on bases like that I don't think I would want Democrats

in the state to be looking at it but you never know. Do you think feminist Democrats would have

a problem if it was a consensual relationship between him and a Chinese spy? Do you think that's

something that would offend Democrats? I don't think it would offend them. I don't think it would

offend them at all. I'm going to go back and this is a lot of years when now actually was a feminist

organization and they hopped around looking for men who did bad things to women and I was with a

number of them and I couldn't help it. I brought up Bill Clinton. You know their answer?

They wish he would harass them.

I'm not making that up so these things are very situational John and they'll only get offended if

they basically don't like Swalwell anyway. Now I'm going to be in kind there's a look about Swalwell

I can see why some women might think he's attractive. He has a look about him.

Oh Matt Gaetz had it where I don't know how to describe it but it's off-putting and I'm not sure

he'll be able to ride that we're going to find out. He looks smart me to me. He looks greasy and

smart me. That'll do it. That'll do it and totally untrustworthy which apparently he is.

But I literally I hate to say it John. I sincerely hope that we do what we need to do and if you

actually could get the two Republicans in the runoff it would be many future generations would

talk about it because it would be quite something. I suspect without knowing that the numbers will

shake out but I do know if Republicans turn out and they wait for Swalwell to collapse and then

Swalwell doesn't collapse and then he collapses late. It's not impossible and as you say it's what

the others do. I still haven't figured out what Katie Porter thinks she's doing. I understand better.

Well except Javier Bacerra thinks if they'll just look at him the Latino vote will come to him.

That appears to not be happening so I don't know where you go. Maybe it's because no one can say

his name. When the president calls you Javier Bakaria you have a problem. For Secretary of Health and

Education's over. I nominated Javier Bakaria. That one. I still haven't gotten over that in case

you haven't figured that out. Let's shift gears and talk about the SEIU wealth confiscation tax

that they want on the November ballot. They initially started this out saying we're only going

after billionaires and it's because they made their money here and the states broke and we need it

and we want to go take it from them and now polls have been leaked that they are now conducting

surveys where they're asking voters if they would be opening open to doing the same thing

to people were ten million dollars or more. Now on paper I would imagine there's a lot of small

business owners or farmers or people who seem to be rich on paper but really aren't in reality

who this might nail in any number of ways. What do you make of this push where they're going after

people who are not billionaires almost immediately or at least testing the waters on it?

That they figured out that there are only so many billionaires and that those people are already

leaving the state so there. I went and I actually looked at what this 5% one time applied to

and you nailed it. It applies to by the way individuals and trust. So family trust. It applies to

businesses, securities, intellectual property. I will point out to you the particular

businesses, all kinds of people who individually don't begin to have that kind of money

are going to be hit and more importantly John, they don't have the cash to pay it. You won't

stock. That means you have to sell stock to pay it. You own a business. You're going to have to

get rid of at least some of your business to pay it. The one I love is that they're also going

to impose it on art and collectibles but I don't think most people have that much of that.

But on top of that you've got to go in and somehow or another you have to evaluate the

worth of these things. Yes, they're going after the nice middle class they claim they like

but somebody figured out there aren't enough tech billionaires and that they're all leaving.

Just for fun by the way, do you realize that they expect this to raise lots of money?

The initiative itself says that 90% will go to health care that is them. We have laws in

California that say a high percentage of new money has to go to schools. This initiative

it gets rid of that says doesn't apply here. We have laws that say that some of it has to go

to reserves. It says that doesn't apply to this money. Actually CTA should really be against this

because it's a terrible precedent and you talk about sheer greed.

They just did an aside to throw in. I was roving through the secretary of state don't laugh at me

but the secretary of state's website on what's in circulation. Somebody has in circulation an

initiative that would prohibit health care unions from spending very much money at all on

political matters. Now I just approve of that but boy will I vote for it to fake it on the ballot.

Well, what do you think of Gavin on this? Because Gavin is traveling around the country,

promoting his book, promoting himself, doing the podcast, doing the national shows,

speaking to democratic audiences and what he would say is, well, I'm on the record being against

this thing and you go dodo. If you're not here traveling up and down the state, making the argument

against it and this thing passes, your state is going to lose its wealth and he seems as if

checking the box of being on paper against it is enough and he doesn't have to put any elbow grease in it.

Yes, so tell me something new about him. I think from his point of view, he did the big thing.

Well, two things. He made the gesture. This is a bad idea. I'm against it and then believe it or not,

he hasn't reversed course, which is sometimes typical Gavin. I am confident that in his mind he has

done all he can do. And what was interesting, if you go back to 36, he opposed 36 and he said he was

going to travel up and down the state against it and once he realized that the polling said it was

going to pass in all 58 counties, he just cut bait. Yep. And the polling on this thing at this

point is pretty decent. So I think you're lucky he hasn't just reversed course shot.

And now, let me be really cold because the man is pulling actually quite well for president

of the United States. I honestly don't think there are many voters in California right now that

would care what Gavin said about this. You think Democratic voters in California have moved on

from Gavin on state issues? Yes, it's exactly what I think. You don't disagree, do you?

No, I don't. But he hasn't talked about state issues for quite some time. He's moved on.

Yeah, which is why Eric Swalwell is a perfect replacement.

Can you be the ghost of Christmas future here for a second and tell us what happens if we get a

government in California from top to bottom filled with people who only care about federal issues

and could care less about state issues?

You understand, of course, that can happen. And as I think it through, they will even think that

they're doing the right thing. Since after all, we are so dependent on federal money, we are so

dependent on what the feds want to do. That evil Donald Trump is trying to drill for oil off

our coast. He's trying to interfere with our great universities. It is appropriate, they will say,

to be focused on the feds because they are the major barrier to making California great again.

That's how they'll get away with it. The fact that they have very little knowledge about the state

to be honest, that they have very little interest in the state to be honest, that heaven protect

us if they ever did bother thinking about it, to them will be irrelevant. I dear Lord,

and you know what, John, that could be the situation.

I think at this point, that's the likely situation.

Yes, it is. Which is why I will go back to the only funny little glimmer of hope I see is that

the Democrats will mess up their gubernatorial things so badly that you actually will get a

Republican runoff, which will minimally foul the whole thing up for quite a while.

The key I truly believe, one of the two keys, is that Republicans get out and vote. I know

the state's gone crazy. I know you don't elect anybody, but you have a shot here and official

party people to make sure you tell people that spend some money, do some stuff because California

used to be a nice place to live. We're out of time, we got to run. Professor Barbara Stone,

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Dodgers. All right. So Farber Vice President Kamala Harris is no longer an office holder here in

the state of California, yet we are paying for her security detail. And we don't know just

exactly how much it's costing us. And of course, this is not a security detail because there's

any active threat or something. This is her security detail that is flying around the country as

she goes on her book tour. She's not employed by the state. She's not employed by the federal

government, but she is getting a full CHP detail as she goes to profit off of a book sale.

Mind you, the state of California is broke for more on this because she's been digging Ashley's

Evala tries to get some answers as to how this much is costing you. Here's KCRA 3 and Ashley's

Evala Governor Gavin Newsom's in gasson. First time I've heard it pronounced that way.

Governor Gavin Newsom's administration will not reveal how much Kamala Harris's security detail

is costing taxpayers here in California. Thanks for being with us. I would just say

why is her book publisher not paying for security on this thing? Why is the state paying for it?

Probably because she's not selling any books.

Is cost Gavin said he bought the book, but he has not read it.

I believe half of that statement is costing taxpayers here in California. Thanks for being with us

at five. I'm Goldstrungard. I'm Lisa Gonzalez tonight. We're following up after we reported last

month, she's using dozens of California highway patrol officers as her security detail.

Our KCRA 3. I'm telling you right now, this is very much like Ricardo Alara, where you want a

special assignment on the CHP. You go be security detail when he goes to pride in New York to hang

out with DJ Kitty Glitter. I'm very kind of sketched. And I don't think either what of them really

need it. I think if you show up with a bunch of police officers, you get to enter the back door.

You don't have to wait in line. You don't have to do a lot of the things that the peon's have to

do. Okay, you can make an argument that because Kamala's an international figure and she ran for

president, maybe, maybe she needs some kind of security. Nobody knows who Ricardo Alara is.

Okay, you think for one second, if Dan Quail were walking up and down the aisles at a mall,

anyone would know who he is. Nobody would, but Kamala's a little more recognizable because

she just ran for president than Dan Quail, who hasn't been vice president since 1992.

Our KCRA 3 political director, Ashley Zavales was the first. And no, Al Gore doesn't need it either

because everyone would think who's the guy that ate Al Gore? Isn't it the rule, though,

were they get it for something like six months? Yes, they get secret service detail for six months

afterwards. And then to be vindictive, the Trump people cut that off early, but then Gavin put his

on there. But now we're way past that. She's doing this because she's getting a book tour. But why,

why are we paying for her to go sell a book? Yeah, at this point, it's been what, a year and a half

almost or a year and a quarter. It's the world's longest book tour, which by the way,

just canceled appearances in the state of California, including in Sacramento and Anaheim.

Our KCRA 3 political director, Ashley Zavales, was the first report on this story you've been

digging into it. What are officials saying, Ashley? Lisa, at this point, they're not saying much

still citing those security reasons. These California Highway Patrol officers have been assigned

to her and her international book tour since August. We've learned this is an unprecedented move

and an amount of time for a former California state elected official. So after we reported this

last month, where did she go internationally? And why are you selling a book about the

presidential election in other countries? Who is buying that book? Who is reading that book at

this point? All of the interesting books about that campaign came out a long time ago and they

focused on Joe Biden and his mental decline and all of that business. She went to London.

What exactly do the Brits want to hear about a failed presidential campaign?

She went to Toronto? Isn't that where she grew up? Maybe that's why.

So after we reported this last month, we submitted two California Public Records Act requests.

So on March 4th, we filed one with the governor's office. We asked specifically for documents and

information related to just the cost, the numbers for the security arrangement. That could include

communications with the book publisher Simon and Schuster or the Harris campaign. We also requested

budget documents. A couple of weeks later, the governor's legal unit replied that quote,

the governor's office is not the custodian. I like that term, the legal unit.

Plied that quote, the governor's office is not the custodian of records for this request.

Please contact the highway patrol. We actually did contact the highway patrol that same day on

March 4th. I submitted the request through their public records portal. I asked specifically for

the salaries or hourly rates and overtime pay for the officers assigned to Harris between

August of last year and April of this year. I also asked for receipts or evidence showing the total

amount paid for flights, hotels, meals and other travel expenses during that time period.

The highway patrol confirmed they have records related to the situation,

but they will not release them citing a section of the law that protects law enforcement related

records. Why, why, why, why can't they be transparent if any of the CHP officers on

commonless detail got lounge access? This is just like the capital annex project and just like

the high speed rail. We know the costs are exploding. They won't tell us what the costs are

and then they tell us how transparent they are. You know, Gavin is touted while police

departments up and down the state are seeing staffing shortages. He has spent a lot of money

staffing up the CHP, but are the CHP officers doing what they did this week on the bay bridge and

taking down the e-bike takeovers? How many CHP officers are on some kind of nonsensical security

detail? And don't forget, even when he sent them into Oakland and San Francisco,

didn't they primarily perform administrative tasks?

But they will not release them citing a section of the law that protects law enforcement related

records. An official with the public record sector wrote, quote, releasing,

I like the legal unit better than the public record sector. Me too.

Releasing costs related to a protective detail would reveal sensitive security information.

Oh no, it would not. No, this is them trying to hide the cost from us.

We also reached out to the book publisher Simon and Schuster for comment.

Why aren't they paying for her detail? Don't they want her to be secure when she goes to Canada

to sell a book about an American election? Good question. We also reached out to the Harris

campaign. We have yet to hear back. I just want to double down on the fact that we're not asking

for location. We're not asking for even the. By the way, Kamala, who's not running for anything,

Senate text out to everyone saying, give me money. It's unreal that she's willing to take

California Highway Patrol protection from a state that she knows is broke only to feed her own

ego. We also reached out to the Harris campaign. We have yet to hear back. I just want to

double down on the fact that we're not asking for location. We're not asking for even the number

of officers. We are just asking for the numbers. Just the balance sheet. Like,

tell us at the bottom of the total cost. Exactly. Even if you can't, you know, divvy it out.

Yeah. How many rooms do they have to book when they go to these hotels?

Can you imagine what the cost must be if they're hiding it and they're willing to go to these

lengths to hide it? Divvy it out. Yeah. Just a number. Just I mean, and that's what we've made

the case in our request at the California. It is not in any of her political duties as a former

vice president, as a former senator or former attorney general to write a book. So why are we

paying for her to go in a book tour? It doesn't make any sense. Well, just imagine let's say she's

flying first class and your job is to protect her. I guess in theory on the plane, you can be in

coach and you and your team can be in coach, but you could also make the argument, hey,

if someone on the plane causes her problems, we need to be around and be able to respond to it.

So we need first class tickets too. That would be such a waste, though, because you're on duty and

you can't drink. Well, that's what the rules say. And if she's on tour and she's at the four seasons,

the government rate is probably at a hotel down the road at the travel lodge, but you could make

the argument if she's getting ice from the ice machine at two o'clock in the morning, we need to

be around to be there if someone causes her a problem. So we should stay at the four seasons too.

And if that's the attitude that you take, just imagine how much you could run up these costs.

The California Constitution would say that taxpayers are at least entitled to just know

that simple information. So there's this also. We know that she canceled her book tour.

The stops here in California, including Sacramento. So what's the reason on that?

Oh, she doesn't need to travel to California. She's been here. No, you know, it's left on the book

tour, all of the primary voting states. You know what the irony is? We're paying for her security

around the globe, yet she canceled all of the California stops. So in theory, if we're going to

pony up for the security of a dignitary when they're in the state, that's the portion that she

cut out. She's got four more stops on this tour. Greensboro, Charlotte, Columbia, South Carolina,

and she ends it in Savannah. All states important to the Democratic primary.

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Well, we know the state of California is losing population. But within the state of California,

oh boy is LA County really losing population. In fact, in just the last year,

it looks like LA County lost 50,000 people, which is an entire Dodger stadium worth of people.

And I read something in the Wall Street Journal yesterday saying that the entertainment

industry has essentially left Los Angeles and is not coming back anytime soon.

And then I read something else that said even within Los Angeles County, there's been

populationships where people are moving out of city centers and they're moving into areas that

are considered to be fire risk areas. So you live in let's say downtown LA and then you determine,

okay, it's filled with the homeless, it's filled with crime, and it's not going to get better

anytime soon. I'm going to move to some place where it's safer, I'm going to move to Pasadena,

or I'm going to move to Glendora, or Claremont, or someplace up against the San Gabriel Mountains,

where if there's a fire, you might be in danger. And that's exactly what the state of California

doesn't want. They don't want more people moving into fire risk areas. They want people moving

out of those areas into areas where you don't have to worry about it as much.

Now there are definitely people who are leaving the city of LA for other parts of LA County.

There are plenty of people who are leaving LA County for other parts of the state.

There are plenty of people leaving the state of California for places like Texas and Florida.

And then there are people leaving altogether and saying, Scrooid, I'm going to Spain.

Uh-oh. For more on this, here is NBC LA.

New data from the US Census shows more people left LA County last year than anywhere else in the country.

Shocker. If you're on the board of supervisors, if you're on the city council,

isn't that an indictment of your leadership?

No. Our Lolita Lopez explains the consequences for the county and the state if that continues.

It's been honestly one of the best decisions that I've ever made in my life.

Perry Hartley moved from Texas in 2025 to work remotely in Spain.

It's the people, the lifestyle, the quality of life.

This April marks. Okay, this story is making me very, very, very jealous.

Is it making you crave paella? Always.

This April marks one year since Jennifer Camp applied for a digital nomad visa to also live in

work in Spain. Literally, I live off of about 25% of what it would take for me to live in the states.

America is great. 25% and you're surrounded by Vino Tinto and paella, come on, let's go.

You think that woman's blown a point to 24, seven.

It's Spain. You're expected to be drinking all the time.

America's great for maybe entrepreneurs ship or have something called Laora Del Vermeute

where right after church on Sunday, you go have a vermouth. Oh my.

America's great for maybe entrepreneurs ship or making a lot of money and your career.

But I feel that Europe and Spain in general is really good for the work

life balance. Someone like herself a siesta. I can tell it's a real thing.

Even in the city centers in the middle of Madrid,

everyone just kind of chills out in the middle of the day.

If you're working, you go home. Now, if I lived in that kind of environment,

I wouldn't be very productive. Nope, but it's Europe. Nobody cares.

These stories are not unique and come at a moment of slower growth in population nationwide.

California and LA County actually saw a decline in population.

In LA County, there was a drop of nearly 54,000 from July 2024 to July 2025,

according to U.S. Census data to give some perspective that is little under the

seeding capacity of Dodger Stadium. That's a lot of people.

While assuming there's a sellout, drops can mean losses back in 2020.

California's first population decline in state history contributed to one less seat

in the House of Representatives. And the 2030 census is going to be brutal for California.

It's going to be between three and five and probably it's going to be more like four to five.

The State Department of Finance tells us roughly half of the outflow from LA County in this

latest data followed the January wildfires in 2025. That doesn't sound good either.

Okay, half of the people who left LA County left because you burned their house down.

Again, a complete indictment of the leadership of the political class.

Other factors include the search for more affordable housing and stricter immigration policies.

I have some people in my program right now who have

they naturalized, they lived in the U.S. for 10 years and they voluntarily left.

These are one of the many stories Sean alum is hearing.

I'm the founder of Moveover Seas now. It is my probably write that one down. I might need it.

You know, it's funny back in the old days when the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria were all

coming over and then the pilgrims came after them. Plymouth Rock, the whole thing, the United States

was becoming a country. All the people with initiative in Europe decided, all right, there's nothing

for us here. Let's risk it all and go to the United States and strike it rich.

And now all their lazy descendants are moving back.

It is my company where I help Americans relocate to Europe and Latin America.

Originally from Los Angeles, she has lived overseas since 2015. She says she has been seeing

an uptick in calls for her. Well, if you got a pension and you can live anywhere,

why move to Texas when you can move to Costa Rica? A lot of people are doing that.

Originally from Los Angeles, she has lived overseas since 2015. She says she has been

seeing an uptick in calls for her services, including some free classes that led to a survey

among some clients out of more than 200 responses, quality of life, health care and politics

top the list of why life story situations like, hi, I'm an LGBTQIA. Okay, I think we're done.

We're just out of time.

Next role with Vernon Davis, the transformative journeys of athletes, artists and entrepreneurs.

Ladies and gentlemen, lights out. Sean Merrim. I want to be the biggest and the best

for what I do. And so whatever it takes, I'll get it done and business, everything else.

All I do is know how to fight and earn what I want. My man, Malik asks, what actor,

comedian, what you want to collaborate with? Me, Jamie Foxley, Kevin Hart in a moment.

We said it on Vernon Davis podcast. So we'll circle back. Be that, yeah, it

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