Professor Barbara Stone on the State of the Governor's Race

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is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program. She is a professor of political

science emeritus at California State University at Fullerton, Professor Barbara Stone. Welcome.

Hey John, be kind about the Dodgers. I can't help it if neither the angel team nor their

fans get that excited. Anyway. Hey, we started out the season two and all. Yeah. Well,

yes. Okay. Hi John. Nice to talk to you. All right. Well, let's go ahead and get right

into this governor's race because Eric Smallwell just scooped up a big endorsement in democratic

party politics. And that is the endorsement of the California Teachers Association. We

received an email from a listener who was in the room when that decision was made. Apparently,

it was back and forth between him and Steyer. And it wasn't until the 11th hour that he

eaked it out. You know, I'm going to go back. It's the Democrats who always love original

causes and problems, but that in a lot of ways for the democratic candidates. This really

is much of a Gavin Newsom spot. He sucks up the air. He for prop 50 sucked up the money.

And nobody paid any attention to any of these people until quite recently. And actually

with Tom Steyer, given what he has spent on TB advertising because he's the one that

didn't affect, he should be dropping out right now. People don't want him. But with

that, they left it so until really recently. And I'm not sure that it's still happening.

The electorate is paying no attention to these people, John. So you come up with an

Eric Swalwell. What does he have to offer? He's literally running against Donald Trump.

That's it. I love his thing that he's the one Trump fears. I don't think so. He doesn't

talk about California issues, but that's because he doesn't know anything about them. I think

I said to somebody that he wouldn't talk about federal issues either because he doesn't

know anything about them either. He I think has the worst attendance record in Congress

or if not pretty close. So you have a guy who's nothing except a media hog. And that's

who's leading the Democratic charge. Dear Lord. What is the biggest threat right now to Republicans

in terms of trying to get to Republicans on the November ballot? Is it that Democrats

will coalesce behind Swalwell and he will escape any kind of scandal that would kill off

his campaign chances? Or would it be for Swalwell to implode long before the voting starts

and his support then to scatter all over the board with one fewer candidate in the race

and a candidate who was at the top of the heap? I don't know if the Republicans could

get two candidates on the November ballot without Swalwell in the race.

As long as these in third, I'm not going to argue with you on that. It's interesting. And

in fact, just a little insight, I think, the obsession with two Republicans on the ballot

and how it could happen appears to possess democratic operatives and people such as you

and I. John, the general run of even Republican activists, I talk to, do not know this. One

of them grabbed me less than a week ago going, oh my God, oh my God, did you hear? Did

you hear? We can get two Republicans on if things happened. He hadn't heard it before

then. He didn't know. So you have Republicans there and the biggest threat from the

Republican side is that they won't vote. Many think it's that they'll go for one or

the other and therefore you won't evenly distribute the vote. But the way things have gone in

this state, I think your far bigger threat is that Republicans won't turn out because

they haven't been recently. So I will find out if our state and local parties are any

good because they've got to make it happen and that's the basis they've got to make it

happen for. In terms of the Democrats coalescing, I honestly don't know since I'm looking at

what's next is Katie Porter. That's a little hard to swallow and they have other candidates

but it's difficult to tell anybody will, anyone popping out and the answer is I just don't

know. By the way, the reason you're suddenly hearing about all their money is that the end

of a reporting quarter is today and anyone who's raised anything is leaking it so you're

sure to get their numbers early. They've put pressure on everybody and you're seeing pretty

maximum fundraising right now. Anyway, John, I simply don't know how it plays out on their

side, but I don't for a minute think they're going to hold that going after swallwell.

Well, to that point, what do you make of the philosophy of these Democrats and the single

digits who seem to be aware that there is a push within the party to coalesce behind

swallwell and they're not afraid of that. Now, keep in mind, it was a Virgoza strategist

who initially put out the tweet saying everyone in Democratic party politics knows about the

transgressions of Eric swallwell regarding staffers and interns in his office and they

know that his campaign is eventually going to fizzle out because of it. They just don't

know when. I would imagine that there seems to be the belief among those Democrats and

single digits that swallwell is problematic enough to where they don't have to worry about

him running away with this thing. I think that's entirely possible. And you know, sometimes

timing is everything. By the way, if I were swallwell, I would not be threatened into

Sue Cash Patel if he releases stuff on Fangfang because other times calling attention to Fangfang

might or might not be good, but having just taken down the image of a Caesar Chavez on

basis like that, I don't think I would want Democrats in the state to be looking at it, but

you never know. Do you think feminist Democrats would have a problem? If it was a consensual

relationship between him and a Chinese spy, do you think that's something that would offend

Democrats? I don't think it would offend them. I don't think it would defend them at all.

Yeah, I'm going to go back and this is a lot of years when now actually was a feminist

organization and they hopped around looking for men who did bad things to women and I was

with a number of them and I couldn't help it. I brought up Bill Clinton. You know their

answer? They wish he would harass them. I'm not making that up. So these things are

very situational, John, and they'll only get offended if they basically don't like

swallwell anyway. Now, I'm going to be in kind. There's a look about swallwell. I can

see why some women might think he's attractive. He has a look about him. Oh, Matt Gaetz had

it where I don't know how to describe it, but it's off-putting and I'm not sure he'll

be able to ride that. We're going to find out. He looks smarmy to me. He looks greasy and

smarmy. That'll do it. That'll do it. And totally untrustworthy, which apparently he

is. But I literally, I hate to say it, John, I sincerely hope that we do what we need

to do. And if you actually could get the two Republicans in the runoff, it would be

many future generations would talk about it because it would be quite something. I suspect

without knowing that the numbers will shake out, but I do know if Republicans turn out

and they wait for swallwell to collapse and then swallwell doesn't collapse and then he

collapses late. It's not impossible. And as you say, it's what the others do. I still haven't

figured out what Katie Porter thinks she's doing. I understand better. Well, except Javier

Bacerra thinks if they'll just look at him, the Latino vote will come to him. That appears

to not be happening. So I don't know where you go. Maybe it's because no one can say his name.

When the president calls you Javier Bacerra, you have a problem for secretary of health and

education. I nominated Javier Bacerra. That one. I still haven't gotten over that in case

you haven't figured that out. Let's shift gears and talk about the SEIU wealth confiscation

tax that they want on the November ballot. They initially started this out saying we're only

going after billionaires and it's because they made their money here and the states broke and we

need it and we want to go take it from them. And now polls have been leaked that they are now

conducting surveys where they're asking voters if they would be opening open to doing the same

thing to people were $10 million for more. Now on paper, I would imagine there's a lot of small

business owners or farmers or people who seem to be rich on paper but really aren't in reality

who this might nail in any number of ways. What do you make of this push where they're going after

people who are not billionaires almost immediately or at least testing the waters on it?

That they figured out that there are only so many billionaires and that those people are already

leaving the states. So there. I went and I actually looked at what this 5% one time applied to

and you nailed it. It applies to by the way individuals and trust. So family trust. It applies to

businesses, securities, intellectual property. I will point out to you the particular

of the businesses, all kinds of people who individually don't begin to have that kind of money

are going to be hit and more importantly, John, they don't have the cash to pay it. You won't

stop. That means you have to sell stock to pay it. You own a business. You're going to have to

get rid of at least some of your business to pay it. The one I love is that they're also going to

impose it on art and collectibles but I don't think most people have that much of that. But on top

of that you've got to go in and somehow or another you have to evaluate the worth of these things,

right? Yes, they're going after the nice middle class they claim they like but somebody figured

out there aren't enough tech billionaires in that they're all leaving. Just for fun by the way,

do you realize that they expect this to raise lots of money? The initiative itself says that

90% will go to health care. That is them. We have laws in California that say a high percentage

of new money has to go to schools. This initiative exempts, it gets rid of that says doesn't apply

here. We have laws that say that some of it has to go to reserves. It says that doesn't apply

to this money. Actually, CTA should really be against this because it's a terrible

is a terrible precedent and you talk about sheer greed. They adjusted it on the side to throw in.

I was rovy through the Secretary of State don't laugh at me but the Secretary of State's

website on what's in circulation. Somebody has in circulation an initiative that would

prohibit health care unions from spending very much money at all on political matters.

Now, I just approve of that but boy will I vote for it to fake it on the ballot.

Well, what do you think of Gavin on this? Because Gavin is traveling around the country,

promoting his book, promoting himself, doing the podcast, doing the national shows,

speaking to democratic audiences and what he would say is, well, I'm on the record being

against this thing and you go, dodo, if you're not here traveling up and down the state making

the argument against it and this thing passes, your state is going to lose its wealth.

And he seems as if checking the box of being on paper against it is enough and he doesn't have

to put any elbow grease in it. Yeah, so tell me something new about him.

I think from his point of view, he did the big thing. Well, two things. He made the gesture.

This is a bad idea. I'm against it and then believe it or not, he hasn't reversed course

which is sometimes typical Gavin. I am confident that in his mind he has done all he can do.

And what was interesting, if you go back to 36, he opposed 36 and he said he was going to travel

up and down the state against it. And once he realized that the polling said it was going to pass

in all 58 counties, he just cut bait. Yep. And the polling on this thing at this point is pretty decent.

So I think you're lucky he hasn't just reversed course shot. And now let me be really cold

because the man is pulling actually quite well for President of the United States.

I honestly don't think there are many voters in California right now that would care

what Gavin said about this. You think Democratic voters in California have moved on from Gavin

on state issues? Yes, it's exactly what I think. You don't disagree, do you?

No, I don't. But he hasn't talked about state issues for quite some time. He's moved on.

Yeah, which is why Eric Swalwell is a perfect replacement.

Can you be the ghost of Christmas future here for a second and tell us what happens if we get a

government in California from top to bottom, filled with people who only care about federal issues

and could care less about state issues?

You understand, of course, that can happen. And as I think it through,

they will even think that they're doing the right thing.

Since after all, we are so dependent on federal money, we are so dependent on what the feds want

to do. That evil Donald Trump is trying to drill for oil off our coast. He's trying to interfere

with our great universities. It is appropriate, they will say, to be focused on the feds.

Because they are the major barrier to making California great again.

That's how they'll get away with it. The fact that they have very little knowledge about the

state, to be honest, that they have very little interest in the state, to be honest,

that heaven protect us if they ever did bother thinking about it, to them will be irrelevant.

I, dear Lord, and you know what, John, that could be the situation.

I think at this point, that's the likely situation.

Yes, it is. Which is why I will go back to the only funny little glimmer of hope.

I see is that the Democrats will mess up their gubernatorial things so badly that you actually

will get a Republican runoff, which will minimally foul the whole thing up for quite a while.

The key I truly believe, one of the two keys, is that Republicans get out and vote. I know

the state's gone crazy. I know you don't elect anybody, but you have a shot here and official

party people, and make sure you tell people that spend some money, do some stuff, because California

used to be a nice place to live. We're out of time, we got to run. Professor Barbara Stone,

Professor of Political Science Emeritus at Cal State Fullerton, thank you.

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longer an office holder here in the state of California, yet we are paying for her security detail.

And we don't know just exactly how much it's costing us. And of course, this is not a security

detail because there's any active threat or something. This is her security detail that is flying

around the country as she goes on her book tour. She's not employed by the state. She's not

employed by the federal government, but she is getting a full CHP detail as she goes to profit

off of a book sale. Mind you, the state of California is broke for more on this because she's been

digging Ashley Zavala tries to get some answers as to how this much is costing you. Here's KCRA 3

and Ashley Zavala. Governor Gavin Newsom's in gazing.

First time I've heard it pronounced that way. Governor Gavin Newsom's administration will not

reveal how much Kamala Harris's security detail is costing taxpayers here in California. Thanks

for being with us. I would just say, why is her book publisher not paying for security on this

thing? Why is the state paying for it? Probably because she's not selling any books.

Is cost Gavin said he bought the book, but he has not read it.

I believe half of that statement is costing taxpayers here in California. Thanks for being with us

at five. I'm Goldstrungard. I'm Lisa Gonzalez tonight. We're following up after we reported

last month, she's using dozens of California highway patrol officers as her security detail,

our KCRA 3. I'm telling you right now, this is very much like Ricardo Alara where you want a

special assignment on the CHP. You go be security detail when he goes to pride in New York to hang

out with DJ Kitty Glitter. I'm very kind of sketched. And I don't think either one of them really

need it. I think if you show up with a bunch of police officers, you get to enter the back door.

You don't have to wait in line. You don't have to do a lot of the things that the peon's have to

do. Okay, you can make an argument that because Kamala's an international figure and she ran for

president, maybe, maybe she needs some kind of security. Nobody knows who Ricardo Alara is.

Okay, you think for one second, if Dan Quail were walking up and down the aisles at a mall,

anyone would know who he is. Nobody would. But Kamala's a little more recognizable because she just

ran for president than Dan Quail, who hasn't been vice president since 1992.

Our KCRA 3 political director, Ashley Zavales was the first. And no, Al Gore doesn't need it either

because everyone would think who's the guy that ate Al Gore?

Is that the rule though where they get it for something like six months?

Yes, they get secret service detail for six months afterwards. And then to be vindictive,

the Trump people cut that off early, but then Gavin put his on there. But now we're way past that.

She's doing this because she's getting a book tour. But why, why are we paying for her to go

sell a book? Yeah, at this point, it's been what, a year and a half almost or a year and a quarter?

It's the world's longest book tour, which by the way, just canceled appearances in the state of

California, including in Sacramento and Anaheim. Our KCRA 3 political director, Ashley Zavales,

was the first to report on this story. You've been digging into it. What are officials saying,

Ashley? Lisa, at this point, they're not saying much still citing those security reasons.

These California Highway Patrol officers have been assigned to her and her international book tour

since August. We've learned this is an unprecedented move and an amount of time for a former

California state elected official. So after we reported this last month, where did she go

internationally? And why are you selling a book about the presidential election in other countries?

Who is buying that book? Who is reading that book at this point? All of the interesting books about

that campaign came out a long time ago and they focused on Joe Biden and his mental decline

and all of that business. She went to London. What exactly do the Brits want to hear about a failed

presidential campaign? She went to Toronto? Isn't that where she grew up? Maybe that's why.

So after we reported this last month, we submitted two California Public Records Act requests.

So on March 4th, we filed one with the governor's office. We asked specifically for documents and

information related to just the cost, the numbers for the security arrangement. That could include

communications with the book publisher Simon and Schuster or the Harris campaign. We also requested

budget documents. A couple of weeks later, the governor's legal unit replied that quote the governor's

office is not the custodian. I like that term, the legal unit.

Plied that quote the governor's office is not the custodian of records for this request.

Please contact the highway patrol. We actually did contact the highway patrol that same day on

March 4th. I submitted the request through their public records portal. I asked specifically for

the salaries or hourly rates and overtime pay for the officers assigned to Harris between August

of last year and April of this year. I also asked for receipts or evidence showing the total

amount paid for flights, hotels, meals and other travel expenses during that time period.

The highway patrol confirmed they have records related to the situation, but they will not release

them citing a section of the law that protects law enforcement related records. Why why why why can't

they be transparent if any of the CHP officers on common as detail got lounge access?

This is just like the capital annex project and just like the high speed rail. We know the costs

are exploding. They won't tell us what the costs are and then they tell us how transparent they are.

Gavin is touted while police departments up and down the state are seeing staffing shortages. He

has spent a lot of money staffing up the CHP, but are the CHP officers doing what they did this

week on the bay bridge and taking down the e-bike takeovers? How many CHP officers are on some kind

of nonsensical security detail? And don't forget, even when he sent them into Oakland and San Francisco,

didn't they primarily perform administrative tasks? But they will not release them citing a section

of the law that protects law enforcement related records. An official with the public record

sector wrote quote, releasing. I like the legal unit better than the public record sector. Me too.

Releasing costs related to a protective detail would reveal sensitive security information.

Oh no, it would not. Now this is them trying to hide the cost from us.

We also reached out to the book publisher Simon and Schuster for comment. Why aren't they paying

for her detail? Well, don't they want her to be secure when she goes to Canada to sell a book

about an American election? Good question. We also reached out to the Harris campaign. We have

yet to hear back. I just want to double down on the fact that we're not asking for location. We're

not asking for even. By the way, Kamala who's not running for anything sent a text out to everyone

saying, give me money. It's unreal that she's willing to take California highway patrol protection

from a state that she knows is broke only to feed her own ego. We also reached out to the Harris

campaign. We have yet to hear back. I just want to double down on the fact that we're not asking

for location. We're not asking for even the number of officers. We are just asking for the numbers.

Just the balance sheet like exactly. Tell us at the bottom of the total cost. Exactly. Even if you

can't, you know, divvy it out. Yeah. How many rooms do they have to book when they go to these

hotels? Can you imagine what the cost must be if they're hiding it and they're willing to go to

these lengths to hide it? Divvy it out. Yeah. Just the number. Just I mean, and that's what we've

made the case in our request. The California. It is not in any of her political duties as a former

vice president, as a former senator or former attorney general to write a book. So why are we

paying for her to go in a book tour? It doesn't make any sense. Well, just imagine let's say she's

flying first class and your job is to protect her. I guess in theory on the plane, you can be in

coach and you and your team can be in coach, but you could also make the argument, hey, if someone on

the plane causes her problems, we need to be around and be able to respond to it. So we need first

class tickets too. That would be such a waste, though, because you're on duty and you can't drink.

Well, that's what the rules say. And if she's on tour and she's at the four seasons,

the government rate is probably at a hotel down the road at the travel lodge, but you could make

the argument if she's getting ice from the ice machine at two o'clock in the morning, we need to

be around to be there if someone causes her a problem. So we should stay at the four seasons too.

And if that's the attitude that you take, just imagine how much you could run up these costs.

The California Constitution would say that taxpayers are at least entitled to just know

that simple information. Okay. So there's this also. We know that she canceled her book tour.

The stops here in California, including Sacramento. So what's the reason on that?

Oh, she doesn't need to travel to California. She's been here. No, you know what's left on the

book tour? All of the primary voting states. You know what the irony is? We're paying for her

security around the globe. Yet she canceled all of the California stops. So in theory,

if we're going to pony up for the security of a dignitary when they're in the state,

that's the portion that she cut out. She's got four more stops on this tour. Greensboro, Charlotte,

Columbia, South Carolina, and she ends it in Savannah. All states important to the democratic

primary. And we're paying for this. Hi, I'm Joe Salcia. I hosted the Stacking

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Well, we know the state of California is losing population, but within the state of California,

oh boy, is LA County really losing population? In fact, in just the last year, it looks like LA

County lost 50,000 people, which is an entire Dodger stadium worth of people.

Well, and I read something in the Wall Street Journal yesterday saying that the

entertainment industry has essentially left Los Angeles and is not coming back anytime soon.

And then I read something else that said even within Los Angeles County, there's been

populationships where people are moving out of city centers and they're moving into areas that

are considered to be fire risk areas. So you live in let's say downtown LA and then you determine,

okay, it's filled with the homeless, it's filled with crime, and it's not going to get better anytime

soon. I'm going to move to someplace where it's safer. I'm going to move to Pasadena or I'm going

to move to Glendora or Claremont or someplace up against the San Gabriel Mountains where if there's

a fire, you might be in danger. And that's exactly what the state of California doesn't want. They

don't want more people moving into fire risk areas. They want people moving out of those areas

into areas where you don't have to worry about it as much. Now, there are definitely people who

are leaving the city of LA for other parts of LA County. There are plenty of people who are

leaving LA County for other parts of the state. There are plenty of people leaving the state of

California for places like Texas and Florida. And then there are people leaving all together and

saying, screw it, I'm going to Spain. Uh-oh. For more on this, here is NBC LA.

New data from the US Census shows more people left LA County last year than anywhere else in the

country. Shocker. If you're on the board of supervisors, if you're on the city council,

isn't that an indictment of your leadership? No. Our Lolita Lopez explains a consequences

for the County and the state if that continues. It's been honestly one of the best decisions

that I've ever made in my life. Perry Hartley moved from Texas in 2025 to work remotely in Spain.

It's the people, the lifestyle, um, the quality of life. This April marks. Okay, this story is

making me very, very, very jealous. Is it making you crave paella? Always. This April marks one

year since Jennifer camp applied for a digital nomad visa to also live in work in Spain. Literally,

I live off of about 25% of what it would take for me to live in the States. America is great.

25% and you're surrounded by Vino Tinto and paella. Come on. Let's go. You think that woman's

blown a point to 24 seven. It's Spain. You're expected to be drinking all the time.

America's great for maybe entrepreneur worship or have something called Laora Del Vermeute

where right after church on Sunday, you go have a vermouth. Oh my. America's great for maybe

entrepreneurship or making a lot of money and your career. But I feel that Europe and Spain in

general is really good for the work life balance. Someone like herself a siesta. I can tell.

It's a real thing. Even in the city centers in the middle of Madrid, everyone just kind of

chills out in the middle of the day. If you're working, you go home. Now, if I lived in that kind

of environment, I wouldn't be very productive. Nope, but it's Europe. Nobody cares.

These stories are not unique and come at a moment of slower growth in population nationwide.

California and LA County actually saw a decline in population. In LA County, there was a drop of

nearly 54,000 from July 2024 to July 2025, according to US Census data to give some perspective

that is little under the seeding capacity of Dodger Stadium. That's a lot of people.

Oh well, assuming there's a sellout. Drops can mean losses back in 2020. California's

first population decline in state history contributed to one less seat in the House of Representatives.

And the 2030 Census is going to be brutal for California. It's going to be between three and five

and probably it's going to be more like four to five. The State Department of Finance tells us

roughly half of the outflow from LA County in this latest data followed the January

wildfires in 2025. That doesn't sound good either. Okay, half of the people who left LA County

left because you burned their house down. Again, a complete indictment of the leadership of the

political class. Other factors include the search for more affordable housing and

stricter immigration policies. I have some people in my program right now who have

they naturalized, they lived in the US for 10 years and they voluntarily left. These are one of

the many stories Sean alum is hearing. I'm the founder of Moveover Seas now. It is my

Let me write that one down. I might need it. You know, it's funny. Back at the old days,

when the Nina, the Pinto, the Santa Maria were all coming over and then the pilgrims came after

them. Plymouth Rock, the whole thing. The United States was becoming a country. All the people with

initiative in Europe decided, all right, there's nothing for us here. Let's risk it all and go to

the United States and strike it rich. And now all their lazy descendants are moving back.

It is my company where I help Americans relocate to Europe and Latin America.

Originally from Los Angeles, she has lived overseas since 2015. She says she has been seeing an

uptick in calls for her. If you got a pension and you can live anywhere, why move to Texas when

you can move to Costa Rica? A lot of people are doing that. Originally from Los Angeles, she has

lived overseas since 2015. She says she has been seeing an uptick in calls for her services,

including some free classes that led to a survey among some clients out of more than 200 responses,

quality of life, healthcare, and politics top the list of why. Life story situations like

hi, I'm an LGBTQIA. Okay, I think we're done. We're just out of time.

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