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President Biden is telling people to Google it. Former president Donald J. Trump is distancing himself from it. Even the actress Taraji P. Henson talked about it onstage at the B.E.T. Awards.
Project 2025. It’s a blueprint for an incoming conservative president — presumably Donald Trump — spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.
And now it is everywhere in this tumultuous moment of the 2024 presidential race.
But what is it? Is it a guide to a possible second Trump administration? And why are Democrats seizing on it now, as Mr. Biden struggles to quiet doubts about his ability to defeat Mr. Trump? This week, we’re working through those questions.
On today’s episode
Jonathan Swan, who covers politics and Donald Trump’s presidential campaign for The New York Times.
Representative Ro Khanna, Democrat of California.
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