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a the studio with we the beautiful catholic and the young gentleman woody and on the phone we have
giannelly giannelly giannelly are you on the phone line with us can you hear us yes i am
alright well i it's a pleasure to have all three of you here in the studio these are some of
the central coast experts that are coming all the way from Watsonville greenfield to be here with
us to share some information with us about pesticides and why it's so important that we get those
one mile buffer zones near our schools how's everybody doing what are you good i'm good yes
you're for having us thank you and Kathleen you good i'm good let's get right into it you know
i have a question um uh right right off the start what what is the biggest dangers
about pesticides and organophosphates why why is it so important for us to learn about organophosphates
and and what is so dangerous about that pesticide well organophosphates are a certain
category of pesticides some of them are insecticides but some have other uses and they affect
a particular part of the nervous system that has to do with how the nerve cells communicate
information and they disrupt that communication and there was a study that was done in the salinas
valley starting about 1999 right around the time we came to Watsonville where they followed
pregnant women and their children for years and it was looking at the impact of living near
where organophosphates were used and having sometimes traces of organophosphates in the mother's
blood and how that impacted the kids and what they showed was that a disproportionate number of
those kids had learning disabilities autism behavior changes more asthma all kinds of things that
were associated with that exposure and this wasn't the only study that showed this there were
others that had similar information so we're particularly looking at organophosphates as
having long-term effects on when pregnant women are are exposed on children and possibly on
the children when they're exposed as well besides which some of them are acutely toxic
too far markers if they're exposed in the field and Cassley just so the listeners can get to know
you who you are you're a lifelong advocate for human and environmental justice over 50 years of
service former midwife community nurse and school nurse right here in the PVUSD is there anything
that I left out what else have you you know I did a lot of things in healthcare I did go to
graduate school at University of Washington and study occupational and environmental health
and as part of my graduate studies I worked on an exposure assessment of children who lived
in the orchards of eastern Washington and it was looking at particularly organophosphates
in their home environments and the places they played thank you and and what are your former
farm worker for of 18 years in Washington state and a special education teacher of 18 years
in a PVUSD district a member of safe ag safe schools and a founder of a member of Korra also
also Kathleen your a member of Korra and Woody can you can you share your journey from the fields
to the classroom and what led you to this fight well it was it was a rather roundabout route
I I was a farm worker in Washington state after 60 years ago I'd been on the farm workers March
the Peregrinocio with the farm workers from Delano de Sacramento which ended on April 10th
1966 it was a big moment for a 19 year old college dropout like me
that stayed in my mind I didn't know that six years later I'd move up to Washington state
I would be a farm worker myself I would work in Guthayan and Perothayan which are organophosphates
which they said were safe they've since been banned for several years in the all of the United States
so there was a learning curve there and I learned to be a little bit suspicious and skeptical
about the guarantees that pesticides were safe if you just followed the label
well thank you goody are you there Yaneli yes I'm here okay good Yaneli you're a long-time advocate
former Greenfield City Council member working with the safe ag safe schools and California
pesticides reform and part of the team behind the spray days website can you tell us a little bit
about spray days and and why is community notification important yes so thank you hi woody hi
Kathleen hi Yaneli so basically spray days came about because of community advocacy so many people
including Kathleen and woody worked on this for many years and so now folks have the right to
know for a year now actually you could sign up on spray days visiting the DPR website and selecting
one address or up to 10 of whether you want to find out what pesticides are being applied near your home
full work you name it and you get alert ahead of time before the application actually happens
and then it will be on you to know how to protect yourself your family and it's been going great
I think people need to understand it's not perfect because we're still missing exact location
it's only restricted pesticides but a lot of the things that I've been hearing from
communities especially in the farm working communities is that at least now they have some sort of
tool at their hands that they could utilize to protect themselves to educate themselves
and their families when it comes to test if that exposure and a lot of the conversation has been
great with many folks including you or my Kathleen or woody making sure that people understand
what spray days are what that's better being applied educating that has even made it a bigger
a movement where new people that have never really been in contact with environmental justice
are taking action and are finding up and are making those questions asking those questions
what is methamill what is one thing what is you know you name it and again making sure that we
hold action mission is NDPR accountable it's such a powerful tool too because not only are people
getting notified when they're spraying these these chemicals but they're also getting the description
of the chemicals and I know not all chemicals are being put onto this app this app they're not all
on the list of dangerous chemicals that are being notified so that's something that the the
movement is working to get more of these dangerous chemicals on that list so people are notified
and an exact location and I think there's another thing also the NOIs can you tell us a little
bit about the NOIs please anybody yeah I can I can talk about NOIs so NOIs means notice of intent
it means that the A commissioner needs to get some extra paperwork and and approve the use
of a particular pesticide that's on the list of pesticides that require this and that the person
who applies it has to have the right paperwork in place and the right licenses to do that
the ironic thing about the notices of intent was that when they were first when they were
making the list department of pesticide regulation they were looking at chemicals because of their
environmental effects and not as much because of their human health effects so some of the chemicals
that are on there are on there because they get into water some of them are on there some of the
chemicals that are on there are not even allowed to be used in in California anymore and some of
the chemicals that were most concerned about like most of the organophosphates are not on the
list the fumigants are all on there because they're all toxic air contaminants and that puts them
in the easy to drift category but as we all agree it's it's a it's a list of only some
and it's not a complete list of everything that's being applied that we're concerned about
it still needs some work to to be perfected and I don't know if perfected is the right term
but to be better informative for the community yes we're actually asking that all organophosphates be
included in the list of pesticides that require notices of intent because of their risk to pregnant
women and and would he a US farmer you know what are your thoughts on that well one of the structural
problems with department of pesticide regulation is they license pest control advisors and pest
control advisors are paid they get a commission on the pesticides they prescribe it would be like
doctors getting paid for prescribing medicines medications which in the old days into some extent
still persist that's a system that just doesn't work for the people it works against human
health it works against the interests of phasing out dangerous pesticides because they keep
prescribing them there are a few pest control advisors who charge a fee and work independently
of that commission system but the vast majority of PCA just told me last week they receive
commissions they they kickbacks for prescribing these organophosphates for prescribing these
and it's a rotten system that needs to be looked at and changed and and people need to be held
accountable absolutely thank you for sharing that we're going to take a quick break you're listening
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Amada Diegas and we have special guest in the studio but I want to give a foot of thought
for for the public that's that's listening I want to speak directly to the people listening and
if you live near fields if your children go to school near agriculture this affects you pay
attention to spray days alerts please look into that website it gives a lot of a lot of information
speak at local meetings protect your family and uplift the people that are out there advocating
every day for you know these harmful pesticides to be stopped spreading being sprayed near
schools especially because a lot of our children are being exposed a lot of our elders in the elder
community are being exposed Janeli you you on the phone with us still yes I'm here Janeli
what do you want to tell us about spray days like what this is your moment to to to give us some
kind of education on on spray days and and what the movement's been doing to stop pesticides being
sprayed near schools okay well I can't say it enough like spray days is a tool to empower community
members and I know that many people in decision-making positions don't like that we just met with
as a missioner is that go from honorary county what like two weeks ago Omar you were there
at the meeting and if you recall his specific statement was spray days was created to inform the
public not alarm that's a public we don't want them to be alarmed and I had to correct them and
that's what I want the community to understand your listeners it is supposed to alarm folks because
what we're being exposed to like Kathleen mentioned what he has mentioned you have mentioned Omar
we are being poisoned disproportionately affected because of these harmful pesticides so we
should be alarmed and so with spray days is validating our feelings our concerns but also
empowering us to take action to make sure that we hold those entire accountable so if I know
that there was a pesticide application and it had to do with spray days or it did not have to
do with spray days then I would know my right to ask the commissioners office for a investigation
because of a possible drift incident and that's something that just happened over the weekend and
again it's because of the amazing work that all the amazing staff members have been doing with all
of you three in the studio right now of informing the public of having them some sign up for spray days
I got an alert I got a message from a woman who just by hearing everything on social media she
decided to sign up for spray days and she was woken up Saturday morning because of stomach pain
chest pain and it was not just her it was her and the two children and she looked up her spray days
alert and it said that methamethamil was applied and so when she caused the
commissioners office and said you know I have the spray days alert this is what was sprayed this
is the ingredient I'm not feeling well my kids are not feeling well and to have somebody from the
act commissioners office tell her that no you're incorrect that is not being applied that is not
part of spray days then we have more leverage to make sure that things are done correctly and hold
them accountable because methamil is part of spray days and what the woman was doing what this mom
was doing was exactly what I would do it and anybody else would do would would be that if my child
being affected I'm gonna ask for a report I'm gonna ask for an investigation because I at that
moment and a victim of a pesticide drift and so that's the type of empowering mechanism that
spray days has has created it has it really has given a voice to the community so yeah I'm very
passionate about it and it's not perfect but it's a tool and young lily just so the listeners know
like this meeting with the d'Algo that was held at the ad commissioner in Monterey County
how long did it take for you guys to get that meeting with him and and how long did it give you
in that meeting I just want to point these things out because this is something that's it's hurting
our community and and I thought it was very disrespectful the amount of time that he gave
for that meeting and I also thought it was very disrespectful that it took this long to sit down
and finally have that conversation with this man yeah so we had asked for a meeting every year
like we usually do with both ad commissioners but for the past two years he refused to meet with
us this is a Monterey County ad commissioner up until just recently that we did meet with
with him and he only gave us half an hour of a meeting and so with half an hour you can't really
cover a lot but I think we were we we we we just deliver what we needed to deliver these are our
demands they these are the packets that we need you to continue to read we will continue to hold
you accountable we will continue to uplift our communities and we will continue to fight for
these environmental injustices that we're currently living in thank you y'all nearly and
and just to to recap that comment when I when I made the comment about how many notifications I
got on spray days it was like over 80 notifications in one month sometimes up to three times a day
and then his response was it's not meant to alarm people it is alarming it is alarming to find out
that we're being exposed to pesticides over 80 times in one month sometimes up to three times a day
so you know it is alarming and for him to not validate people's feelings people's concerns was
very disrespectful witty I know you have a wealth of information I could see whether you want to
say something or operate up the mic is yours you could say me a chomp in at the bed yes well I
was a special ed teacher in Pahero Valley unified for 18 years and I noticed my my children
the qualified they had learning disabilities there were other disabilities involved some of them
were autistic these are things that are linked strongly through the 25 year UC Berkeley School of
Public Health Jamaco study in the Salinas Valley and I did not know about these things until I
retired nine years ago then I started studying that looking at that study and other studies
which showed a strong link it's hard to give to claim causation direct causation because there
are so many variables out there but strong associations strong links between organophosphates
and learning disabilities autism ADD ADHD it's alarming I just want to go through we have a new
tool a mapping tool by school districts it only goes from well it goes seven years from 2017
to 2023 in our school district Pahero Valley unified a total of 14,686,000 pounds of total
pesticides were applied wow seven year period that averages out to more than two million two
million pounds per year two million pounds per year and we have is that right did I get that right
yeah and and the the bulk of those are the fumigants the fumigants for some reason even though
their gases they're put in liquid or granular form into the soil and they weigh a lot but they
are there's a lot you have the weight of the fumigants yes but I just want to break it down
there were 152,000 pounds of organophosphates wow by the way when we've looked at this tool
through all the school districts in the central coast we have not found any school district that
has had a greater totals than this have passed aside let's point out that Monterey County and
San Cruz County has a high volume of of I'm sorry I'm blank you know we have a high volume of
kids or youth that are suffering from cancer in our area throughout the state of California
Watsonville Pahero Valley and Monterey County have the highest levels of childhood cancer the highest
levels of children suffering from learning disabilities asthma stuff like that it's it's really
hard to come up with those numbers because of the way the the data is collected and one thing to
remember is that the Pahero Valley is in two counties so we have kids from Monterey County and
kids from Santa Cruz County but I think you know it's important to remember that
there are all different kinds of pesticides in use and there are all different modes of exposure
and we don't really know how all these different chemicals interact with each other
that's something that's been studied very little so like the sensitive periods like during
pregnancy the long-term effects like over you know your whole childhood or your whole life
and the combination of all the different chemicals all those different things could be having
impact on cancer rates or respiratory illness rates or you know some of the neurological things
that come up like for example in older people more Parkinson's is associated with certain pesticide
exposures all those things together so we we I found out when we were fighting against this one
organophosphate chlorpyrifos that it was just going to take too long to knock them down one at a
time so now in our campaign we're grouping them together and we're like excuse me we want to we
want to more restrictions and we want to phase out all the organophosphates we want to phase out
all the fumigants we don't want to just try and knock them down one at a time we want to group
them together and it's really about time to do that in October 2017 UCLA law blue ribbon panel
called for phasing out and banning organophosphates worldwide that was nine years ago and it was
roundly ignored by our department of pesticide regulation and it just goes on because one thing
it's kind of like being a ninja fighting a a battle when you're blinded to your opponent because
the the ag big Kim big ag big oil which makes pesticides and plastics they have huge lobbies
were rarely in the same room with them occasionally hearings in Sacramento we run into
their lawyers you can always tell who they are because they they have suits and and they look
pretty ornery and but we're not really that's that's the hidden that's the hidden influencers that
we're dealing with and big ag big Kim and big oil and they're they have enormous influence
in the state capital as well as the national capital thank you thank you we're going to take
a quick break you're listening to ks qd santa Cruz ks qt prundale we're going to hit it with the
little song and we'll come right back
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and we're having a great conversation about pesticide and and this is a about
environmental justice uh this is about environmental racism this is about farm workers dignity
this is about future generations to come this is about mother earth in the way we treat her
this is about the water that is so precious how how are we taking care of that water for our future
generations to have clean water higher we taking care of that land to be able to
protect mother earth and being indigenous it is so important to the indigenous community that
we take care of that land and and these harmful pesticides are not doing that i want to ask
all of you a question because i think what people don't understand about advocating for
something that you're so passionate about you know the the work that it takes to be an advocate
to be an activist uh you know you have to sacrifice a lot you have to be consistent show up for
the community i want to ask all three of you this question if you guys can't turn any order
what was that moment that made you decide that this is something that i'm passionate about
this is something that i want to fight for what was that moment and we'll start with woody and
then we'll go to janelia and with casting well you know i was i was fishing around for
information and there is an outfit called kiss the ground which offered a five-day online workshop
with someone named uh finnie and make peace and he was excellent and i learned a lot about carbon
sequestration in healthy soil and how that is a one big solution to climate change
because plants through photosynthesis they take water and carbon dioxide at greenhouse gas
they make sugars out of it for the the plant does with photosynthesis but those sugars it also shares
with healthy soil microbes and then exchange those microbes they provide nitrogen phosphorus
potassium and trace minerals through the roots of the plant so using healthy soil as a conduit
for greenhouse gas reduction and feeding plants this is what dick Peshot does he says i feed the
soil with compost and other amendments and the soil feeds the plants when you use fumigants and
pesticides the soil becomes an inner rooting medium and then you have to pump in all these
all these fossil fuel pesticides so so that study is what made you perish but passionate about
yeah and there are films which are readily available online kiss the ground and common ground
that's the name of the film yeah kiss the ground we're actually actually doing it we showed common
ground at the real a couple years ago okay maybe three october's ago with a full house it was
they they do excellent work yeah and and bringing real living examples of organic living soils farmers
and how they got off the chemical treadmill thank you Yaneli what made you passionate about the work
that you're doing so i think first of all i shared it in the past having my oldest
southern asthma attack at the age of 10 because of close proximity to the axial to his school
really did kind of like initiate that fire of you know i need to speak up i'm a mom of there i'm
gonna be a strong advocate for a child but what about the rest of the month the mom that are
silent the mom that the mom that are quiet because the system tells them to be quiet but they're
not supposed to be speaking out of line right i think that was part of the fire but now the more
that i look into this um having folks in sass like canceling like woody like you obviously omar
that have so much going on with the life that we could be anywhere right now but we're here volunteering
our own time to speak up regarding this issue because if we don't speak up it's gonna continue
as a cycle of a view of abuse and with us speaking up right now and being away from our own
families and sometimes not even priority prioritizing our house because we're so passionate about
the movement has really inspired others to join the movement or at least others to speak up
about the environmental injustices happening in the community currently right now so that is my
inspiration my sass family and and you know it's it's when you're an activist sometimes you forget
to make that time for yourself and to really take care of yourself uh i know i i found out the
hard way uh you know i i was on the verge of a burnout uh and if it wasn't for me going to college
i was taking a counseling class and when the teacher talked about burnout and she gave a list
of the checklist if you're experiencing this i checked every single box you know and i'm like wow
that so that's what's going on with me you know it's it's uh we we forget about taking care of
ourselves and making time for ourselves so uh you know we're not perfect it's something that i
learned in school and and now i'm working on it but thank you for sharing that you Nellie
Kathleen what made you passionate about the work that we do well first i want to thank you Nellie
for giving me a good excuse for not doing my house work you know my history with pesticides
goes way back so i have these touch points along the way and i will disclose that my dad worked
for a shell development company and his company was afterward were two figuring out what to do with
all this fossil fuel and making pesticides was one of the things they did but when i was a kid
all i was like my reaction was oh they really smell bad but the thing that i remember was
i was a hippie living in hippie commune in the hills i worked for a small newspaper
and i was a writer for that newspaper and uh at that time the Vietnam War had ended and there were all
these uh that's coming back and uh those of us who are old enough to remember remember
Asian Orange Asian Orange was spread uh in the jungles of Vietnam to remove the cover for
the Vietnamese but it did great damage and is still doing harm to the people of Vietnam
and at the time that i was writing for the paper they were going to spray Asian Orange in the
forest along the the forest roads for weeds for weed control and i remember this vet came to us
and he was like i have liver damage i have chlor acne i'm going to die from this stuff don't
let him spray it on your on your forest so we actually did organize and protest and they ended up
changing their plan but it gave me this awareness of chemical exposure not just pesticides but
you know the chemicals they used in the early days of silicon valley all kinds of things like that
that who gets impacted by the most hazardous chemicals in our environment so pesticides kept coming
up as part of that and i would think probably a turning point for me was when i was working on
that exposure assessment and the spray plane went over and we were all splattered with organic
phosphates and i still have a twitch in my finger from that day so and and people are still
being exposed like that you people would think that they you know that that doesn't happen anymore
but yeah yeah no we're lucky in this that in in Santa Cruz County we don't have the spray planes
that they have in Monterey County and out in the Santa Cruz and people are still out there working
in the fields while the planes are flying over spring yes yes and and you touched on a very
important note brought to you reminded me of organic phosphates is related to some of the
chemicals that they use the Nazis used in the gas chambers to kill people yes organic phosphates
are related to those chemicals and yet we're using them to grow our crops how does that explain
that to me who thought that was something smart well they were originally noticed as being something
that that had a really strong flavor and had or smell and had had an effect on the person that
was experimenting with them and then the kind of the insecticide and the the poisonous gas use
kind of developed together and then during World War II of course the gases were developed by
both sides not just by the Germans right and after the war you know they had already done all this
developing on these chemicals are and it turned out that the the book DDT or the book silent spring
and come out and DDT was being phased out so the organophosphates came in to replace DDT
and did you do you know in the early days of Watsonville what they used on the orchards for methamel
no or what was it let arsenate oh yes let arsenate yes ortho chemical was was founded in Watsonville
it later became Monsanto or Dow I forget which one and they sprayed the trees the apple trees
with lead in arsenic to kill the bugs so it's like you go from one thing to another and when you
find out that's bad then you just move on to the next thing when actually the healthy practices
for gardening for farming those are the ones that can replace a lot of the chemicals without having
to rely on anything highly toxic and that's why Woody wants to talk about healthy soil
I do you know hold on Woody before you go on I got to say you know Woody and Kathleen are
are a couple and it's funny to see here watch because Woody's kind of like tapping her like
let me talk let me talk and he's over the raising his hand at me like hey I want to say something
but you know you guys I hope you don't mind me saying this because
how old are you gonna turn Woody I want people to know I will be 80s this year 80s and I don't
want to wait to see these changes till I'm pushing up daisies I want to see them in my lifetime
for our grandchildren and so there's just like when I was on the farm workers march and I was 19 I
have a sense of urgency but it's at the other end of the spectrum I don't know it's hard to
explain but there's that sense of activism and urgency because you reach a point where you're
not going to live forever and you realize it so you have to live differently and try to get things
done so well before you move on with your comment you know thank you both you Kathleen and
and Woody for the years of advocacy against pesticide for all the hard work and and you know
every time I sit in the meeting with you it's easy to be quiet and learn so much information
from you so thank you for all the years of advocacy and all the hard work that you guys put into
thank you for your hunger strike for 30 days in september that really raised awareness
thank you for all of these issues yes I just want to talk for a moment about
soil rotation go ahead and what's happening with fumigants is they can grow the same thing year after
year in the same place the same raspberries or strawberries and they wear out the soil and but they
keep pumping it with you know artificial fertilizers so no farmer in their right mind before
fumigants would try doing that because you do wear out the soil and you start getting
things like fusarium wilt too these super bugs that develop even infumigated soils so
I want to see us go back to crop rotation you can grow bocicas which have natural sulfur you can
harvest them like tom tom grows of livers farm and then you plow under the plants it
sulfurizes the soil it's not foolproof but then you plant pathogen resistant varieties from
UC Davis or Driscoll's has its own proprietary varieties and some private plant readers do too
and then you have a pretty good shot at growing but you have to rotate growing organic berries but
you have to rotate soil I will say that miles rider is growing organically at airport road now and
green valley road a big new block of organic strawberries where previously dick per show had been
growing a lot of organic vegetables that's a good sign it's a good sign but what do you think
what direction is he going to move in is he doing that just the silence with going on in the
I think I think he's concerned about his image in our community my concern and you know not
everybody shares my point of view but my concern is that that he will kind of do the green
washing thing in the power of alley because so much attention has been drawn to his fields and
his practices in the power of alley but he are are Driscolls not miles rider per se but Driscolls
is using bad chemicals and taking the water and taking the land in Mexican communities
and in other places around the world and they also they they grow a lot of their
organic berries in Baja because it's cheaper labor costs are lower so it's not like
they're going to do the right thing because they're going to change their whole company philosophy
I think they could do the right thing for us but we would like to see the whole system change
and it's not like people have to eat strawberries every day of the year all over the world
well thank you for sharing that with us Kathleen and Yaneli we're going to come back with some
questions for you after this little break
you
you're listening KSQD Santa Cruz KSQT Pruneo from the streets with your host Omar
Giegas Yaneli you know thank you for being on the show Kathleen thank you for being on the show
what do you think for being on the show I want to give you all an opportunity to say something that
you want to say to the community out there that's listening whatever it is it's your moment to
say that message right now most of it with you Yaneli yeah I think my message would be for
everyone listening is that hopefully you learn something from this our with us but there's
so many of us getting up of our own personal time not because we want to be troublemakers
but because we really care about human health we care about making sure that we have
our pollinators for the future that we even have a future that our soil is protected like
Woody mentioned that there's a better way to grow food without harming anybody so I think
that more than anything I just want folks to feel in power to feel that they could do something
themselves they could attend the meeting they could sign a petition they could simply give
donation to this radio station that is providing such crucial information everything or one of
us could do something even if it's something as small as just hitting the like button but it's
all on us to really make change we are the ones that create change nobody else is going to come
do it for us but we all need to create change together thank you Yaneli powerful message thank you
Kathleen yeah I would reinforce that community engagement is really crucial when you talk to the
growers when you talk to the bureaucrats they all say well we're doing everything according to
the rules we're following all the rules and that means it's safe well our experience is not the
same as theirs we don't believe that we're being adequately protected and the system is not
designed for the benefit of environmental and human health as the number one priority so
we want to make sure that people engage so that they vote for politicians and vote with their
dollars of the kind of food they choose to reinforce the kind of agricultural system that they
want to see going forward in the future which is based on healthy food healthy soil healthy
communities thank you Kathleen Woody I just want to mention that the healthy soil is the life
blood of communities and healthy soils wet sequesters huge amounts of carbon
as as a climate mitigation strategy I also want to mention we didn't talk about carcinogens
two and a half million pounds of one three D which is a byproduct of show show oil development
they didn't know what to do with but they found that it made a great fumigant and two and a half
million pounds have been applied it during the seven-year period 2017 to 2023 in our school district
it's banned in 40 countries and it needs to be banned here yes thank you thank you everybody for
being on the radio today you know I just have one last message you know to the public out there
that's listening this is this is a fight that is not easy but it is sacred this is a sacred fight
because we are protecting life we are protecting mother thank you for listening to
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