Pt 3: How to Make Your Dreams Actually Happen | Matt Edmondson

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Hello and welcome to part three of The Stompcast. Matt and I have got off

up off our bench because I realised it is, in fact, a walking podcast.

And so I should actually give you a bit of a walk.

Keep your wake as well after only five hours sleep last night.

Thank you for sharing so much in part two there.

I'm not a person with things that you shared as well and I'm sure on certain

that it will touch many people but also inspire people that are listening

and feeling perhaps a little bit lost if you're near a divergent

and you're trying to kind of make sense of it or you think that you might be.

I think it's easy sometimes to focus on the negatives without saying like,

hey guys, it's like it's not the end of the world that you can find your

path and your space and your lane and so on.

In this part I kind of want to kind of talk a little bit about how you kind of juggle

lots of different things because actually again a similarity I think

between us is that I'm also of a tendency to start new ideas, do new projects and it's

right this book and then I want to start this idea and now I'm starting an

alcohol-free drinks company and then it's a tendency to try and do all these different things.

And it's also then naturally a challenge with it to maintain those things.

So how do you kind of, it sounds like some of it is bringing the right people in but how do you

manage the different spinning plates? So generally I will follow whatever is exciting me at any

given time and my wife always jokes like it could be anything. We don't know what's coming.

Because at least a life's never boring. Exactly, darling, I've got my idea.

Yes, I love this idea. I'm predictable. And I think if you are someone who has ideas you

can't really control in what form they come or even what they're about. So sometimes you can be

like well I really would like to think of an idea for a TV show okay cool I can maybe do that.

I'll try and be open to that and then you know you'll get an idea for like a novelty product.

You think well maybe I should go into the novelty product business. You might have like

ideas that remind notes folder of like mad things that I will never have the time or resources

to do but would I think be successful? What percentage of things do you actually take and

actually go and do? So if you know it's folder like how many of those things become like

into fruition? How are we going to get attempted and like what kind of percentage so happens?

So if I if the the the sort of feeling of I can't stop thinking about this thing lasts for

a couple of weeks. I'm like cool let's let's go and in the early stages of that I can

operate with hyper focus at a level that is a bit mad. Well I can just get it done.

So if it's like I've got to make a pitch deck or I've got to cut a sizzle reel or I've got to

design a box for a board game or sit and make a prototype that comes fast. It's really fast

and it's it's in flow state which is my favourite place to be. Just where you and you know I don't know

if everyone experienced it. Yeah how do you describe flow state? It's paradise.

Flow state is I'm going to it's it's almost like you're not there's no conscious thought going on.

Whatever you're doing is just sort of happening and time disappears you could start a thing at six

in the morning and finish it at you know midnight and it would feel like you've blinked and I

was think with me flow state is if someone asked me to come back and recreate what I've made today

when I'm not feeling like this could I do it and the answer isn't the answer is no it's like it's

sometimes a mystery how I've made this stuff to me I'll be like I was just I was just doing it it

just happened. These were a lot of time blindness come from because also when you're at

one flow site state the whole kind of thing that I think happens is that it is the detachment

from time and it's like it's like a it's like you become part of the thing that you're doing

so when you detach from time it's then very difficult to know oh crap I was supposed to go and do

this well two hours ago but also the thing you're supposed to go and do isn't well actually nothing

is as interesting as what you're doing in in that flow state nothing so it becomes very hard to

extract yourself and that's often where you can convince yourself well I know I need to

be there at 12 but if I you know I can get shawed and dressed in three minutes I'll just keep going

and then in every time you can't so flow state for me very important that allows me to get the

kind of early stage of things down and then it's about getting meetings booked in if a meeting is

going to happen the work is going to get done if a meeting isn't going to happen nothing will get

done right so if you have an idea like for example did you who's idea was the new podcast so

so initially it was mine but very much not an idea yeah very much good with me and Moll working

together so I did the radio with Moll yeah she's my best friend the world genuinely love spending

time with her and always looking for any excuse to hang out more yeah you've got to have a right

laugh isn't it Jenny you do my laugh for so much deep but the are you very competitive she you're

like you're avertly competitive she seems like slightly more quietly competitive it does actually

really like to be no she's very I've never met anyone more cost of molecule but it's a very

like sibling like relationship that we've got where we're sort of like we just know how to wind

each other up and we do want to compete but we are genuine best friends we hang out all the time

and I was like we've got to do something so we can do more more stuff together and I pitched her

some mad ideas and then I said I wonder I was like I think we can write a novel together but like

one of those drawings where someone does the head and then someone else does the body and then

someone else does the legs and then it looks a bit weird and it's like you know if I did chapter

one then you did chapter two and then I did chapter three do you think that could work and she

was like yeah but how would it work as the podcast and she suggested getting Stefan to come and

read it our friend Stefan he's brilliant he's amazing yeah which was like the missing piece of

the puzzle so it was very much a kind of thing that we worked on together and we we just we just

tried it we're like well let's see so I went and wrote the first chapter of of this book which

Stefan decided was going to be a murder mystery which I think is actually an inspired decision

because there has to be a conclusion yes we have to know who did the crime so I went and wrote my

first chapter and while I when I brought it back to Stefan and Molly I was thinking like I thought

I was pretty full of myself did they did they did they because when you listen to it and you say

that they are completely surprised you didn't have any no no no no no no no Stefan reads it cold

he literally gets we email it to his phone and then he just reads it from there which and you

hear because he sort of struggles with like voices and things as he goes through because he's

still trying to work out what yeah work out who's doing what and and yeah Molly you know we'll

chip in with her thoughts mostly that she hated it she would have written I think there's very

different first very different first chapter I thought you did a very good job I thought it was

really good I appreciate that when I think Molly didn't like the lead character which is problematic

given that she's going to have to write a book with him in in chalks detective in chalk I was trying

to like I was trying to think of like good back story I like breathe a di breathe re rock for yeah

yeah chalk and cheese yeah she hasn't really gravitated towards him or his back story I've tried

to sort of this something mysterious going on in a cave at cheddar gorge that we don't know

anything about and Molly has no interest in it I fear that people that don't know what cheddar

gorge is might need a little bit it's some caves it's some caves it's fine it's a beautiful cave

it's beautiful caves but our character got trapped in those caves with six boy scouts for for three

days to survive on chalk and cheese has five on chalk and cheese exactly but none of which gets

mentioned in episode two by the way chapter two Molly takes over and I'm looking forward to

listening chat I listened to chapter one today and I'm just chapter two because I don't know

what's yeah I don't know what's good but I'm imagining it takes a different it does the only spoiler

I can give you is that the main character of the book Ian doesn't feature in it which is you know

what in the whole chapter in the whole chapter not a single mission I feel like most I just

sometimes you have books though we're like each chapter will go from the point of view of

the a different person so maybe that's I think no I think I think I think you're giving us more

credit than is due there now I think I think Molly just sort of didn't like him and thought well

I'm gonna write what I want to write right but eventually if you keep listening there are two

worlds have to collide yeah so she does end up having to write for Ian she does introduce a

detective or have her own later on and I'll be honest I'm annoyed because her detective lands

with such an impact that it sort of blows Ian out of the water I made the error of never describing

the man which is you know I think you're meant to do as an author yes I noticed that chapter one

that wasn't you didn't really know exactly yeah well don't mention size that's his

character yeah he can't yeah he can't he can't he can't work out the length of objects

in his head yeah it's it's a character flaw so yes so we sort of had the idea and try it out and

then Molly went and wrote her chapter which for her I think was quite um which you enjoy it

oh she loved it but she was she was she was worried right she's got dyslexia and you know

grew up basically feeling like the worst thing you could be asked to do is read and write

something out loud yeah um and here I was saying oh bless hey write this thing and then we're all

gonna make jokes about it and say it was bad uh could be triggering could be triggering but she

she gave it a go and not only was she brilliant at it like such such funny characters such amazing

kind of like twists and turns with the stories um she also really took the kind of the spirit of

this which is you know as only best friends can piss taking have a laugh um and and we took great

joy in kind of celebrating bits of this novel that were good but also kind of writing each other

into corners I'm going right well I'm gonna I'm trying to make it really difficult it's like um

twister almost you're trying to put it yeah well I kept putting in cliffhangers expecting her to

then you know have to solve them that chapter she's just kept ignoring them so then come back to

my chapter and I'd have to solve my own cliffhanger after picking that otherwise it doesn't the continuity

wouldn't make it yeah it was not me this little stomp were going on really reminds me of what

when I had to write a chapter seven of the book so have you fit it's not all finished no we've

so we're doing twelve chapters yeah we've written eleven I've written my last chapter

and it's a triumph so she's gonna finish it so I set up the crime and even though in my body

I know who did it yeah I will not get to say who did it Molly will be writing the final chapter

could she decide that it's not who did it could she change it it's not she laid for a change it

but she doesn't know we're like we haven't discussed it yeah so you don't yeah so she doesn't know

what's going on in my in my mind I try to lay clues in my chapter yeah or in all of my chapters

but you know it's actually really fun why don't you do this at school where you could do imagine

if you've got school they said instead of like doing that reading I don't know where I come

over what you do in English and just imagine if you said like in pairs you've got to write a book

got to write a book it's gonna be a week you come back with a new chapter it actually was so much

far what I would say is that as as books go it probably needs a bit of work there's a reason

there's a good editor there's a reason that people aren't doing this um because you don't think

it's gonna become Harry Potter I know I think if you were to sit and read the book without you

know Stefan interjecting and me and Moll coming in and ripping it apart I think it would be an

incredibly confusing read as just a printed book um but I feel like you have to print it

oh I feel like you need to get two copies three copies one for me one for Molly one for

Stefan maybe I'm the number exactly yeah um but um but yeah I think best enjoyed an audio book you know

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to get started well guys you're going to have to go and have a listen on you after this podcast

I'll give this this you you are going to have to go and listen and find out and the beautiful thing

is you will definitely not know because she's not written it yet actually she's writing it right

so you're not going to know the ending you can start it and you'll find it you'll find out by

going to have a listen to the podcast so check it out we'll leave a link in the in the show notes

down below I appreciate that what is like you do do like I mean this it's brilliant but like random

yeah and you do lots of random different things the board game like what is your favorite thing

to do you know what's your kind of favorite project is it still like would you say ready one

presenting is still like the mainstay of what you actually enjoy do you do still that you can't

see don't enjoy because I hate it but like do you still have the passion I guess for that or

are the side hustles ways of bringing novelty so the radio is like uh it doesn't feel like work

Alex it feels like going and hanging out with my best mate it is it's you know that they say like

oh if you find a job you love you'll never work a day in your life it's that it is so joyful

we laugh so much it is just it's I mean there isn't a better job in the world it's just playing

really good songs and hanging out with your mate it's a joy like it's what you would do on a road trip

you know um so that I love but it doesn't require the sort of level of creative thinking

that gets me into a flow state you have to have lots of ideas you have to know how to communicate

them but it's like it's it's it's a different muscle that you're using so I just have to make sure

that I've got other projects going on that that do take that box so obviously novel idea big one

at the moment and and I think you know Molly's quite similar to me actually and have you had her on

this yeah no you can't find a fascinating um she's quite similar to me and that she's like

deeply creative loves making the making of the thing so we've had like joy sitting editing

this thing together um and and so yes so that's that's going on I've just written a musical

which I know is a bit of a weird curveball is that off the back of your pandemic time

for yourself and yes sort of I mean the the story is slightly I've got time for a slightly

mad story but I um I don't know if you have this if you ever experience something

uh so I watched this uh musical called tiktok boom with Andrew Garfield on Netflix

and at the end of it my brain goes oh that's interesting this is like a real story about the guy

who wrote the musical rent and they then turn that into a musical like oh it's a and there's a

dramatic bit in it and my brain went well if you had to do that yeah what would you what would you

write musical about and you thought right and I thought well I know what I'd write it about I'd

write it about the magicians seek freedom Roy are you aware of these guys no last Vegas magicians

yeah biggest showing Vegas history they had wild tigers big cats they lived in a place called

the jungle palace it was a zoo they slept with the tigers in their bed like tiger came before tiger

yeah flamboyant guys um closeted gay men born in Nazi Germany both fleed fled Nazi Germany

and uh and sort of found each other but it had his magic partnership this sort of love triangle

thing it was a secret all that the whole life was about a story amazing story but at the

they did they did 30,000 performances of course their career their last show was their last show

because a tiger that had been raised by Roy since he was a cub attacked him on stage

oh my gosh uh tore into and bit his neck oh my god I dragged him off the stage and it's all bloody

mess that that was it show over Roy to die he didn't die two years to recover uh and um uh it's

a amazing story and I was like well it would be that I couldn't stop thinking about it it was just

in my head all the time like I see from Roy musical that'd be amazing and what a story just think

we would think it's and then this is real legit this is all real oh my god and then people have

mad lives I know I might as sound pretty boring I just made a show for called make me prime minister

I was the executive and uh our director at the rap party knew that I was into magic we're talking

about magic and I said oh tell me let me tell you about secret and Roy and I've got this idea

for musical and at the end of it he went this is going to be sound so strange but my stepfather

was the choreographer for their Vegas show and I was like that's nuts what is it ridiculous what does

he do now and he said well he's still a choreographer he does musicals it's like what does he do

well he did mama mia this is crazy and he said I do it crazy will you go and yeah tell

what you've just told me to my stepfather yeah of course I'm at this point literally nobody I'm

just a man talking about secret and Roy so I went and saw this guy and he went if you write that

I'll help you get it made and so I had met a guy a year prior in the interval of Hamilton

who'd come up to say hello um and I had a music theory question and he I found out he was a composer

and he answered it and I said that's really good answer that can I get your number just I might

want to call you about a music theory thing phone him up a year later after I met him in the

interval at Hamilton and said do you want to write the secret and Roy is calling me and he said yeah

so we did so we went off and we did it and we had our first workshop about three weeks ago

where we had actors in we had a mute we actually had a musical director from Hamilton come and do it

and yeah we've got like a producer and it's all kind of it's going to happen well I don't I mean

I have no idea I don't know what I'm doing you know what I said I like it I like to be the sort of

it's someone doing the logistics someone doing the logistics oh my god there's no we've got

producers she's so good but you know I was like I like to be sort of like the the least qualified

person in my room my god I am the least qualified person in that room but I was the little rocket

fuel bit that's amazing that is so cool I really hope and I you've got to do it because I want to come

and watch it yeah but you can come to the can come along to the next workshop we're doing a workshop

I can watch a workshop that would be so far yeah it's it's really exciting it's like the

maddest thing sitting there seeing this thing happen incredible yeah my friend it's been brilliant

to have you it's been a joy thank you really enjoyed it thank you for your energy honesty and just

good fun yours lovely as you've seen listening to the radio for many many years oh thanks you

obviously a couple years old maybe you kind of feel like you're always just being slightly you kind

of the big brother bit you're actually you're about to kind of that thing where someone's just

the head of uncool big brother no the cool big brother I think you've done fantastically well and

you can see why you've got I think when I meet people I've done this podcast now for good

few years when you meet people who have been had longevity in an area obviously they have talent

that wouldn't be there but it's I think it's people who are hardworking and actually nice people

tend to stick around and being the same place which is probably a good lesson for people in the

general be a decent person and funny enough things will work out for you isn't it yeah I can't

have something I do have any more big like that guy is awful no everyone has the day but on the

whole you want to show up and do your best to be a good person that's not about place to be yeah

thank you so much for coming to the podcast I appreciate guys make sure we leave a link in the

in the show notes as I say to the to the podcasting so do go and check it out it's really good it's

really really good it's really good it's put it's it's it's maybe not perfection in writing but

in podcast it's not a dream it's a dream to go go and check it out of course as always we'll see

you in the next Stompcast episode have a wonderful day whatever you're doing take care and goodbye

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