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In June 1983, four-year-old Nyleen Marshall vanished during a family picnic in the Elkhorn Mountains of Montana.
Children were playing along Maupin Creek while the adults talked nearby. It was the kind of place where parents felt safe letting kids wander for a few minutes. But when the other children turned around, Nyleen, who had been walking just behind them...was gone.
There were no screams. No signs of a struggle. Despite an enormous search involving helicopters, tracking dogs, divers, and hundreds of volunteers, investigators found nothing.
Then, two years later, the case took a chilling turn.
An anonymous man began sending letters claiming he had abducted Nyleen and was raising her under the name “Kay,” traveling with her across the United States and even overseas. Some of the details he shared were information only someone connected to the case should have known.
Was it the confession of her abductor… or a cruel hoax?
More than forty years later, the mystery of Nyleen Marshall’s disappearance remains unsolved.
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This is Triggered, and you will be...
What?
How have been you over there?
Just hear me out.
Every time we come on, I just, I want to keep it real for people, and I want to keep the
vibe alive, and I'm like, do I learn good morning or hello in a whole bunch of different
languages, and then I can just come on here?
Fair!
Shall we do this?
And I should probably butcher that.
Probably.
You probably told everyone to go fuck themselves, to be honest.
But here we are.
I know we have talked a few episodes back of it going to the spa for Ashling birthday
day.
Guys, we did it.
Let me...
Here we go.
Let me tell everyone something, okay?
This is like a...
This is my early PSA for this episode.
Ladies, men, people of the world.
Hear me out.
Shit is whack, okay?
We got wars, we got moral issues, we got all sorts of shit going on.
John?
Yep.
Sometimes, I'm not preventing a war.
I can't help that.
But what I can do is I can go into a steam room for 15 minutes and come out feeling like
a new person.
I need to, I'm going to outch and tell for something because this is too funny to be
shared.
However, we need to keep it, no, we don't need to keep it any kind of PG.
This is a rated R podcast, all right?
Yeah, we're not going to PG this.
All right.
So, we went into the salt room, which is like this quiet salt napping space.
I like to call it a napping space because boy, did we nap.
So, I fell asleep in there with my daughter, we were both snooze bell.
And my mom and Shantal did not really sleep.
Well, Shantal slept for a little bit, but anyway, she woke up before I did.
So, she goes out, she's, you know, doing the thermal experience, whatever.
So, I wake up, I find her, we go in the hot tub, we're sitting there and she's like,
something happened.
And when Shantal says to me, something happened, something fucking happened, okay?
Uh-huh.
So, she then proceeds to tell me that she goes into a dry sauna and she's just sitting
there, you know?
You're sitting there.
It was in the zone.
I was loving it.
I was feeling my body, like I was like, you know, it was just, honestly, it was one
of those moments where I was like, just honoring my body.
Like I was like, this body has carried me through incredible things, incredible things,
all right?
So, this is where I'm at.
It's a safe space, okay?
We have to preface this by saying, it's a safe space, there's people of all cultures,
races, body types, skin types, everyone is just co-existing, everyone's in their bathing
suits.
Nobody cares what's it, hanging out with you.
I'm so pale.
Shantal?
So, they're picture this, okay guys?
You walk into a dry sauna and there's a woman and she is finally relaxing after a year
of not relaxing.
She's got her legs spread, she's, you know, doing the meditation stance, yeah.
And this motherfucker doesn't realize her labia, a piece of her labia, is hanging out
with her.
You're so insane.
Guys, I'm telling you, a solid 20 minutes past where I was, and I know it was 20 minutes
because I turned the little timer for myself because I'm Irish and we can't handle heat
for very long.
And I was just crisscross applesauce, just living my best life and I went to move at some
point and I was like, something is not where it's supposed to be.
And sure enough, that entire time.
It was just, for a walk about, free the lip, I say, free the lip.
You know what?
And I had a moment where I was like, especially the women sitting across from me where I almost
went, sorry.
Oops.
Whoopsy.
But then I was like, you know what, we're all just, you know, lips on a walk.
I don't know.
So if you were, you know, at the spa and you saw a little pork chop pop out, our apologies.
Sometimes those swimsuits just aren't big enough to cover, you know?
Yeah, it was, it was like, and it wasn't even that, it was just like, I was in the zone.
I wasn't even feeling my bathing suit.
I was like, look, check out this body of mine that just, that gave birth, that overcame
illnesses.
I was, anyway, I don't regret it.
So all of Shantal got a spa treatment that day.
Every part of her.
I did afterwards.
I did.
And there was one woman like sitting across from me where when I got up, I was like super
thankful that I had my towel down because that would have grossed me out.
Like if I had seen that and there wasn't a towel there.
So I like made a point of like mopping up the spa just in case like to be like, guys,
I've cleared.
I've cleansed it.
I can't.
I can't.
I cannot.
Yeah.
So that was my, my beautiful relaxing day and now, you know what?
We're not apologizing sometimes if there's one place, if there's one place that your lip
can have a little slip, it's probably the spa.
We're going to forever call it the lip slip of 2026.
So all that to say, it was lovely, it was very relaxing and I'm we're going back.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So after that little palette cleanse because I'm about to take you somewhere, you don't want
to be because I don't want to be there and I don't, this lives rent free in my head now.
Just just like many things quickly abandoning the land of lips, oh my gosh.
So I'm going to need you to take a breath because this one, this case has been sitting
with me since I found it and I've thought about it every day like it's crossed my mind
daily.
It's one of those and there are going to be moments, girl, where you're going to want
to reach through the screen and throw something at me because some times, you know, there
are just those cases where you're like, what in the actual shit of the kind of world
do we live in?
All right, let's go to Montana.
We're going to go into the mountains of Montana.
We're going to talk about a four-year-old little girl named Nilean.
Oh, what a cute name.
It's a cute name.
Yeah.
So June 25th, 1983, a normal Saturday, a beautiful day.
We're talking sunny, warm, the kind of summer day that makes you feel like nothing bad is
going to happen because it is a day.
Our time, you know, you're in the mountains.
Yes.
So the Marshall family is out enjoying this day.
The Marshall, Nilean's adopted father, is a member of something called Capital City Radio
Club, Ham Radio Operators.
And that day, the club is having a picnic up in Elcorn Mountains.
So Elcorn Mountains are located in the Helena National Forest just outside of Clancy, Montana.
Kim brings his entire family, his wife, Nancy, their six-year-old son, Nathan, and their
two-year-old daughter, Noreen.
Okay, so we have Noreen and Nilean.
Wow.
They're very close.
So when I found this, I was getting a little confused and I was like, oh, okay, not the
same.
So we've got six-year-old Nathan, two-year-old Noreen, and sweet, tiny four-year-old Nilean
Kate Marshall.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
All right.
I want you to picture this for a second.
Four-year-old in the mountains on a beautiful June afternoon, she's out there catching frogs,
a long mop and creek with other kids from the picnic.
So you've got the adults, they're cooking, the kids are running around, it's all in all
a beautiful day.
Wow.
I'm like, to me, when you hear about a four-year-old catching frogs, that is the most four-year-old
thing I can actually imagine in my mind.
I am so in love with this little girl because how flippin' cute.
There's a 13-year-old girl nearby keeping an eye on the younger kids, which is complete
ly normal.
This is like my childhood.
Yeah.
I love catching frogs, yeah.
The 13-year-old, while the, you know, adults are setting up for the picnic and things
like that, she's watching the little ones and she tells Nilean, stay right here for a sec.
Don't move.
I'll be right back.
And right away, my stomach's just dropped because I was like famous last words, right?
Don't move.
I'll be right back.
Yeah.
She literally was just away for a brief moment.
I don't know if she was grabbing something, we don't know.
But when she comes back, Nilean is gone, completely vanished.
Now, the area where Nilean had been playing, and I need you to really understand this because
it was not a park.
So this wasn't like, no, like a park setting.
This is dense forest.
Yeah.
Steve Rocky Cliffs, and this is the part, girl.
Right away, I was like, this is not the place to take your little ones because there were
abandoned mind shafts all around.
I mean, I know.
Different strokes for different folks.
Like my little girl grew up around dangerous things when we would go to my parents out
to farms and stuff.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel like hindsight, of course, is 2020, and you know, kids babysit at 13, but also
like 13 year old doesn't have the wherewithal to be like, I'm going to turn, you know, get
my eyes off these little ones for a second and all will be right.
It's not the time.
That's fair.
Not to blame the little 13 year old because she's 13 years old.
So this I want everyone to understand is not a place where a four year old wanders off
and you find her behind a tree because it's dense.
There's lots of nooks and crannies and lots of ultimately dangerous areas where you
could fall on a cliff.
There are things right away panic, you know, in suits because where is she?
Search efforts begin literally immediately and oh boy, okay, this isn't just like, yes,
because especially when when you realize that someone is missing right away, the thought
process is they can't be far.
She's a child.
Yes.
Oh, okay.
And we've seen this through history, like we're talking 1983, but even just recently we've
got the Jack and Lily disappearance.
Yes.
Yes.
It's a scary feeling when you know there are a million places this child could be.
So actually 2800 volunteers show up.
Oh my God.
2800.
2800.
It's wild helicopters infrared heat centers, canine teams, these specialized crews were literally
going down mine shafts and dragging the ponds, like there wasn't an area they did not
look.
Right.
Okay.
This place was searched from the top of the trees to the bottom of the mine shafts.
Okay.
And part of that that really gets to me is 2800 people showed up for a little girl.
They didn't even know and that is beautiful.
It's beautiful.
It always touches me anytime that we hear about something like this because I'm just like
we look around the world and it's like just darkness everywhere and then something like
this happens and it's like, wow, wow, yeah, there are so many good people in this world
still.
Yeah.
The tracking dogs did pick up an island sent.
Now they picked it up near Mopin Creek and then it disappears.
Like she was there one second and gone the next.
Now this is where this investigation starts to shift because a scent doesn't just end
like that.
And if we know anything about, you know, search dogs, things like that, it doesn't mean
a child wandered off.
It actually does show that someone picked her up and took her away because had she wandered
off, she would have left a scent trail.
Yes.
But here's the part, guys.
This story has haunted people for decades and I'm going to tell you why because this is
so fucked up to me.
It just, I can't even believe that this story isn't more well known to be honest.
So when the children at the picnic were questioned, some of these kids remember little
tidbits of information and they tell police something that fucking, just guys, it's so
fucked up.
They said that before an island disappeared, she had been talking to a man in the middle
of the forest.
A man that didn't belong to the party of picnickers.
This is an a man that was there with his family.
This is just some random dude and the part that fucking stood out for me was he was wearing
a purple jogging suit.
Sorry.
What?
A purple jogging suit in the middle of the forest at a ham radio pic.
We're no one knew who he was or saw him.
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A 6 year old boy tells police what Nyleen had said to him just before she banishes.
And girl, this is going to make your skin crawl because it kind of fucked with me a little
bit.
And it takes, it takes some shit to fuck with me, you know, yes.
He said Nyleen told him that man wants to be to follow the shadow.
What?
I'm going to let that sit with you.
What the fuck did you just say?
I know.
That man wants me to follow the shadow.
Oh my god.
I'm so uncomfortable.
I know.
And, and do you know what makes me the most uncomfortable?
That man wants me to follow the shadow, not his shadow, not my shadow, the shadow.
Nope.
No, I know.
Right?
So, nothing is making sense because, first of all, you have this random dude appearing
in the middle of the dense wilderness in a fucking purple tracksuit, which, okay, it
was the 80s and we all had some fucking weird clothing traces, but no.
No.
This is fucking whack.
So investigators believe this man lured this four-year-old girl away from a group of children
by suggesting they play a game, a shadow game, follow the shadow.
But what?
The shadow.
I, I don't.
I don't.
No, thank you.
I'm not following any shadow.
Hello?
Sounds like a terrible idea, but we have to remember she was four.
So if she was a baby.
Right.
So of course she goes.
She doesn't know.
She had no reason not to trust a smiling adult who wanted to play a game on a sunny afternoon.
Everyone's playing.
This is a happy day.
And to me, that's the most gutting thing about it because four-year-olds love to play
games.
If you say to any four-year-old, do you want to play a game with me nine times out of ten?
And this man's out here looking like Barney, like?
Right?
Of course she wanted to play the game.
Oh, no.
So about five days into the search, the weather in the mountains turned very harsh.
Cold came in fast.
Investigators started to fear the worst because obviously there's a four-year-old little girl
out there somewhere and the weather's changing fast.
But volunteers continue to come.
People who had never met the marshals who just could not stomach the idea of stopping.
One of the volunteers, a man named Ken Gardner, who was interviewed with tears in his eyes
and he said, I just got kids in my own and I can't imagine someone stopping and not looking
for them.
And I'm like, yeah, because as a mom, like, of course, I would hope that people would continue
searching.
We've said this before in cases like this, like I would expect every single person in
my town.
Yes.
Outlooker.
Yes.
100%.
So after ten days, officials had to call off the search because they searched everywhere.
Well, yeah.
And you can only, I know it's like this guttural feeling when we hear that searches have been
called off.
Like, I felt it with Jack and Lily.
But you have to at some point.
You have to.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Well, I don't even have the right words for it, honestly, because it goes from devastating
to deeply disturbing.
You're not going to like this.
I'm already upset.
So let's go.
No.
November 27, 1985, more than two years after Nilean vanished.
The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children receives an anonymous phone call from
a man who claims he abducted Nilean.
Okay.
Tell me more.
So two months later, the same man sends a type written letter to an organization called
Child Find of America.
Okay.
I've heard of them.
He says he picked up a little girl he now calls K and the letters.
These letters contain specific details about the case that had never ever been made public.
So Dane County Detective Kevin Hughes said he was privy to things that a normal person
could not have access to.
So this isn't just some fucking disturbed person making things up for attention because
investigators were like, this guy's the real deal.
He has.
Yeah.
Yes.
Now, these fucking letters keep coming, girl, multiple letters.
You know, like my first thing that just enrages me is the little girl I now call K, first
of all.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Secondly, you don't get to take kids and just change their names.
A monster.
It's a fucking monster.
And then came the multiple calls.
And in these calls and letters, this man paints this picture of their life together.
Like, it makes me sick.
He says he has a nice investment income, works from home, home schools, I'm quotating
K.
Yes.
That they travel constantly all over the United States, Canada, Britain.
He says K is happy.
And she trusts him that she laughs and smiles and acts coy when he teases her.
And I could have fucking like regurgitated everything I've eaten in the past while
hours.
I was going to say that literally makes me feel physically L. You disgusting psychopath.
He's a psychopath and then in the same letters where he's describing this cozy little
life.
So I need to trigger warning because this is going to make y'all sick because this really
bothers me a lot.
He describes sexually abusing of course, because you know, investors who have this beautiful
life and travel.
The world don't take kids just for fun.
I really want to preface this because you know, my passion is human trafficking and sex
trafficking.
And this is one of those fucking cases.
This is, you know, disgusting and horrible and it's happening every single day.
Yeah, man.
I'm going to read part of what he wrote.
Good.
Okay.
And I need you to understand that this man voluntarily wrote this down and mailed it to a
child advocacy organization.
So this is what this mother fucker chose to write on this paper.
He writes, it is actually a spoonful.
I need a minute.
Okay.
This is really bad.
It is actually a spoonful of my seaman.
It doesn't affect her physically.
I have never molested her in any other way.
The fucking audacity of putting those words and the words molested in quotation marks
is the way he wrote it as if labeling it differently makes it not exactly what it is.
Because he chose to say, this is all I'm doing.
Like he gets to decide what counts and what doesn't count as sexual molestation.
I want to fucking scream.
Ugh.
Okay.
Jefferson County detective Tim Campbell confirmed that the communications made explicit
reference to sexual abuse that in the same letter where this man described caring for
Nileen, he would describe what he was making her do.
It is heartbreaking.
This is rough.
This is rough.
I chose this story not because I wanted to fucking make everyone, you know, sick or uncomfortable.
Yeah.
No, I know.
But the fact of the matter is we need to be uncomfortable because this is happening every
day.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
We don't talk about it.
We don't, you know, have these uncomfortable fucking conversations and learn what's really
happening in this world.
It will continue.
I agree.
I agree.
The FBI traced the phone calls to phone booths all over Wisconsin, including one near a pharmacy
in Edgerton.
And the moment these locations were identified, the calls stopped.
Okay.
Okay.
So now I'm going to move to August 1991, a man named Richard James Wilson, a former
Helena resident, 42 years old, walks into a police station and confesses.
He says he murdered Nileen.
He says he also murdered at least one other woman.
Okay.
Now he was already in police custody because he was picked up for violating parole in 1994,
a conviction of him being sexually convicted of sexually assaulting a minor.
So this is a piece of shit, human, anyway.
I was going to say.
So just all around garbage can humans.
Right.
Investigators take him seriously.
They bring him out to an area of East Clancy.
He shows them where he says he put her body.
They excavate the mind shaft that most closely represents the description of the mind shaft.
Okay.
There's nothing there.
There's no evidence.
There's nothing.
Jefferson County Sheriff Tom Don said Wilson's confession had been taken quote unquote with
a grain of salt, too many inconsistencies in his story.
So Wilson is released, which he's already a fucking sexual fucking yeah, like.
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He's released to Lewis and Clark County Attorney Mike McGrath said there was not enough
evidence to hold him.
So this was a dead end, and then because this family wasn't, you know, put through enough
over the years, 1995 happens.
So the Marshalls had been living in Japan, actually, for nearly five years.
Kim gets a job transfer to Mexico.
Nancy flies ahead to Mexico City in July to look for housing, and Kim stays in Japan with
the kids.
So they're living in Japan.
He gets a job offer in Mexico.
So Nancy flies ahead to Mexico City to start looking for a nice place to settle in.
Okay.
Nancy doesn't come home.
What?
Mexican authorities initially rule her death as suicide.
Okay.
But Kim and Nancy's family immediately, right, they push back.
They're like, I'm so fucking lootly not.
She did not kill herself, and they push back hard.
So Kim hires a private investigator.
What he learns is that.
Nancy had been found hanging from a shower rod in her hotel now.
This is important because she was bruised, she was beaten, and her hands were tied behind
her back.
This family, it is the most tragic family story I think I've read.
Yeah.
It's pretty bad.
But can we please talk about how this was not a suicide come on?
How could you deem that as a fucking suicide?
Is it literally physically impossible to tie your hands behind your back and then hang
yourself for a shower?
I mean, it is possible, but it's a lot of effort to go through, and I know there's been
suicides where people's hands have been tied behind their back, but, but, but, you didn't
beat yourself.
She didn't beat herself.
Secondly, she was going to find a new home for them to settle in.
Right.
That's an exciting time.
And I know she had trauma and maybe depression and maybe all these things, but I just don't
see her going through the struggle of tying her hands.
And here's the thing, there is still the reality that your baby could be out there somewhere.
You're not going to kill yourself.
This is it.
Your heart would be open to finding her always, no matter where you are or what you're
doing.
I mean, yeah, and I don't like jumping into conclusions when it comes to suicide because,
and we don't want you guys to think that we're pigeonholing, you know, suicidal ideation,
but it means I know it can happen.
It just seems really unreasonable.
And the amount of people, like I said, who tie, she didn't beat the fuck out of herself.
Right.
And then to tie your hands behind your back, like it's just a whole bunch of steps that
are unnecessary.
And to top it off, the door to her hotel room actually was kicked in.
So no.
There are questions about the integrity of these investigators.
I know.
What?
Now, the only thing that was odd was the money in the room safely is untouched.
So this wasn't a fucking burglary, gone wrong.
No.
Mexican authorities eventually changed the ruling from suicide to undetermined.
What do you mean?
Okay.
I mean, we can determine what happened here.
We are headed in the right direction, but we're just not there yet.
Right.
Let's try a little harder.
Poor Kim, after suffering the loss of his daughter, then the loss of his wife was advised
by the U.S. State Department not to push Mexican officials too hard.
Because if he did, Nancy's body might not be released for burial.
Okay.
All right.
So fuck you.
Fuck all you.
Seriously.
What in the fuck?
We are not oppressed.
Nancy is buried in Texas at Ridgeview Memorial Park.
She never got justice.
So you're aware?
Perfect.
And she never got to know what happened to her daughter.
Also, in 1995, the same year Nancy died, a nurse at a hospital in New Orleans hasn't
it and counts her she could never forget.
Okay.
A young woman comes in with a man.
She wants to be admitted to give birth.
She's young and she tells the nurse something that stops her cold.
She says she believes her mother's name was Nileen.
Okay.
That she grew up in another country and she doesn't remember much of her childhood.
She has no accent.
She calls herself Helena, as in Helena, Montana.
Hospital staff asks for more identification from medical history and the couple stands
up and walks out just like that.
Okay.
Here's eventually track this young woman down in Oklahoma City.
They have a 10 year old blood sample from Nancy who is by this point deceased.
They also locate Nileen's biological father who had never been part of her life and obtained
a DNA sample from him because remember Kim was her stepdad.
Kim is her stepdad.
That's right.
The DNA does not match.
Okay.
Fast forward to 2018.
Okay.
Because it never ends.
This fucking story.
This is awful.
It's awful.
The fine Nileen Marshall Facebook page reports that businesses in Jamesville, Indiana, Ford
and Edgerton, Wisconsin were those phone booths were traced back in the 80s, started receiving
handwritten letters again.
Again, referencing Nileen, no return address, postmarked from Cincinnati, Ohio.
The law enforcement confirmed that these letters are under investigation, but 35 years
after a four year old girl disappeared in the Montana mountains, someone is still sending
fucking letters.
I was just going to say that's like the long game.
Yeah.
And the letters about Nileen, like before, weird, because Nileen is in 2018, Nileen is
what?
Alms 40.
And it appears that these letters are written by the same person.
This is terrifying.
It's terrifying.
This is terrifying because everything points to Nileen was taken at four years old and
was kept forever.
Right.
Right.
Ease.
Ease, Ease, Ease.
How many sheriff Craig do little now?
Guys, I giggled out loud because I'm 12 year old Ashley right now.
County sheriff do little, anyways, you have to be a county sheriff if your name is Craig
do little.
You just that's what you're going to be.
You have to.
Didn't state my gut tells me she is deceased, but this file has never been closed because
of course your gut tells you that because the other option is fucking unimaginable.
I was just going to say your gut tells you that to protect you from the other possibility
which is horrifying.
So if you do go on the national center for missing and exploited children, they did create
an age-progress image of what Nileen might look like at 43 years old because she would
be 43 years old.
If she's alive, she may be living as Kay.
She may not know who she is or where she came from because do you remember being for?
Not really.
And honestly with trauma, your brain will protect you.
So there's a good chance she's out there.
She wouldn't even know that 2800 people walked through the Montana forest calling her name
that her mother never stopped believing she was alive, that her face was on milk cartons
from coast to coast.
She may not know any of it.
There could be a woman out there, my age, living her life and not know that she is Nileen
Kay Marshall.
Wow.
Wow.
Like this little girl was four years old, catching frogs on a summer afternoon.
You know, and someone in a fucking purple jogging suit told the little girl to follow
the shadow, and she did.
So to close this off, if you do have any information on Nileen's case, please contact the Jefferson
County Sheriff's Office or the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children at 1-800-the-lost
because if you, someone out there has to know something, you know, like.
Well, the thing is, and I mean, we've heard her stories of people kidnapping children
and keeping them locked away for their entire life.
So like, who knows?
But the hope is that he brainwashed her to a point where she believed that was her life
and he was able to go in and public with her.
And someone has met them, someone has seen them somewhere.
This case really does haunt me because I'm like, I do, I do honestly believe that she
was alive.
I think I don't think she was murdered.
I think she was exploited.
I think she was probably trafficked and abused and some sick fuck out there.
Just, and like, the letters, I'm like, okay, like what, you know, if I really go into
the mind of like a psychopath, was he trying to get caught, but he, he was scared to get
caught?
Like, what is the reason?
It's, it's hard to say, though, because we've seen both, we've seen both cases, both
sides.
Like in the sense of, is it possible that this guy immediately killed her and then in
his delusional state had made up this whole story about keeping her and traveling the
world and stuff, maybe like we really don't know, we really don't know.
It really, really sits heavy with me, this one, because you have to remember this was, you
know, an entire family, it's awful, this whole family.
So now we have stepped out and two kids that had to live with the fact that their sister
and child is out, could be out there completely unaware of who they are or that they were
loved or has been murdered and buried somewhere and her remains will never be found, but then
to top off such a fucking tragedy with obviously mom being murdered because obviously, and
my mind goes to was it connected somehow?
I know.
Where she was back in North America for the first time in years.
I don't know, I don't know, it's, it's a weird one, it's so weird, it's the worst possible
scenario for any family to go to and my heart breaks for this family, the marshals have
been through more than anyone should ever go through in multiple lifetimes, but I wanted
to kind of leave this with everyone, I know it was graphic and I'm sorry if I upset
anyone, that's not my intent with this podcast, however, if we don't hear the depravity
of humankind and we don't hear these stories, we won't be thinking about it.
And the fact of the matter is human trafficking and abductions and sex trafficking is one of
the oldest form of trafficking before the drugs, before you know, all of that, it's modern
day slavery, it has to end and we need to protect our little people and our big people,
everybody, all the people, all the people.
Well, thank you so much for telling us that story, I actually had never heard of that,
that is a brand new one for me, so thanks for that.
You're welcome.
I'm bringing you in there.
As always, we feel for Nancy's family, for Nilean's family, I hope that over the years
they've been able to find some peace, some comfort and some healing.
And thank you for listening, and we will see you all on Friday.
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