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Welcome to another Thursdays with Mary Langston and episodic

appearances by Trey.

And please try to hide your disappointment to your best to conceal your

disappointment. Actually, I'm disappointed.

In fact, I'm so disappointed.

I mean, I'd even go through with it.

Now, that's, that's my boss telling me that I am to go through with it, no

matter what.

Well, Mary Langston will not be joining us this week in her absence, to

the extent that anything can fill that absence, but in her absence, we

will revisit a few of your fault-provoking questions.

And there are too many to choose from.

But nonetheless, in the interest of time, we've chosen a few.

You've asked about the inner workings of our judicial and legislative

systems.

You have asked about what is the left of my golf game.

And there are moments when you just simply wanted and answered to my

favorite question of all, which is why, regardless of the topic, why.

So let's get started.

Hope you have a great week.

And we'll be back with more questions next week.

We'll start with Matt from Texas, who writes, I enjoy your segments with

Dr. Gilliland.

Can you please explain what it means to take a course pass fail?

Well, Matt, from the great state of Texas, I guess you're referring to my

segments with Dr. Kevin Clark Gilliland, who allegedly is a clinical

psychologist, Kevin and I, some of you who have listened to the podcast

before or watched the television show and know that he's a frequent

guess you can probably tell by our interactions that we have known each

other since we were 17 years old.

We stood beside one another in line when we pledged the same fraternity at

Baylor University in Waco, Texas, not great with the alphabet, but

Gilliland and Gaudi are pretty, I think they both start with G.

So there was nobody in between us.

And we've been fast friends ever since then.

As for taking the class pass fail, that's a very sensitive topic for me, Matt,

from the great state of Texas.

So I'll try to summarize it in a way that doesn't lead me to anger or

want to get in a car and go do any form of violence to Dr. Kevin Clark.

Gilliland, so if I said to say, Kevin and I, we lived together, we took

classes together, I took more psychology classes with him than I did my

own major, which was history, but there are certain requirements.

And I had to have, well, I never took a math class because I petitioned the

dean and got out of that, but I did have to take a business class or personal

finance, even though I was a liberal arts major.

And Kevin was a psychology major, which is considered science, although we can

have another conversation about whether or not it really is or not.

It's considered science.

So Kevin told me there's a personal finance class.

This is our last semester at Baylor.

So we got to take everything that we need to graduate because I can tell you

my father was not interested nor was Kevin's in the four plus or five year

college plan.

It was four years and you either graduate or you are on your own.

So we had to finish our requirements.

And Kevin had this great idea that we take personal finance.

I did not like the idea because the class met very early.

I think it was something like 11 a.m.

Who's up at that hour?

First of all, and I know two people who weren't up at that hour, and that would

be Dr. Gillil in my self.

So we took it, and when I say we took it, we went the first day and the most

important fact to us is how many exams are there?

Just one, a final, and do you take attendance?

And the answer was no.

So we did not go back again to class for a variety of reasons, primarily

because it was just so early.

So there we are, the ninth before the exam.

And I am trying to tell Kevin, I have to pass this class to graduate.

My parents are actually in a car driving to Waiko, Texas right now to watch

their son graduate.

So I have to pass this class, and I have yet to attend class other than the

first day, and we have the final, and neither one of us even own the book.

We haven't gone to the bookstore and purchased the book.

And he said, well, let's go for a reason first and talk about it because he had

a brand new truck.

So we went for a wheeling, and he got stuck.

And then we called a friend of ours, Gary Jones, and he came to pull us out

and Gary struck that stock.

And there we are at about midnight, finally making a back to the apartment.

And I said, Kevin, we've got to find someone that has the textbook.

We don't have it.

How are we going to study for an exam if we don't have the textbook?

And I can take you back to the exact spot where that little devil looked up at

me and said, I meant to tell you, I'm taking the class past fail.

And I don't need it to graduate.

Well, those would have been two really important facts to share with me

before the night of the exam, but he didn't.

So I had to call a young lady that was in the personal finance class with us,

ask if I could borrow her notes or book.

I stayed up all night.

I read the book.

I went and took the test.

I made a 72 on the final.

And then Kevin and I decided that we after graduating, um,

bailer, which we slept through the graduation ceremony.

Again, sitting right beside one another.

I remember that too.

He put his head on my shoulder and then I laid my head on top of his and we went

to sleep.

So I couldn't tell you a single thing said during graduation.

But we decided to stay in Waco and paint houses because what else is a

psychology and history major going to do except paint apartments and houses.

So we did that, but I was walking on campus and I bumped into my personal

finance professor and I just could not resist asking.

I said, you know, I made a 72 on the final.

If I had missed one more question, I would have made a 69.

And that means I would not have had a passing grade.

But I would have been close and I needed that to graduate.

So I'm just curious what your reaction would have been being that close to graduation.

My parents were already on the way.

And he looked at me and said, I would have told you that I'll see you next

semester.

So one question is what kept me from probably not being around because my

father would not have been happy.

What he won't be happy.

Still 40 years later, knowing that his son did not attend class or by the textbook,

but I by one question passed that and Kevin Gilliland.

I don't think showed up for the final because he didn't need it.

He was taking it past fail and he had already met all of the probably

because he had to go to summer school every day on summer.

He already had his hours to graduate.

I don't know when you're sharing facts with one another about what you all

to take or sign out for.

I just think it's relevant to tell a friend, by the way, I'm taking this class

past fail and I don't need it to graduate.

Neither of those did he see fit to share with me.

Having said that, have I forgiven him?

No, I haven't.

Well, I hope that helps, Matt.

Thank you, Tray.

That's so funny.

It's not funny.

It's typical Kevin Gilliland leaving out the most important facts.

Yeah.

So it's still a sensitive subject.

Well, they had to stay up all night long reading a personal finance book.

Wow.

And I didn't have the books.

I had first of all funds for money that did.

But when they just 72, I'm really proud of that.

In one point away.

Yeah.

So thanks, Kevin.

Thanks, Kevin.

And thank you, Matt, for your question.

Thank you, Matt, for bringing up an awful memory.

I'm an otherwise very, very happy four years in Waco, Texas.

Well, Brad from Washington changes the topic a bit.

And he writes, good.

Any suggestions on how Congress can resurrect what used to be an important part of legislative oversight?

Brad, I don't think it needs to be resurrected.

I think it already exists.

I just don't think it makes the news.

And yeah, I just, I know the guys and gals that are running the committees now.

I'm both a house in the Senate.

I think they're doing really important investigations.

Most of the investigatory work is not done on camera.

It's done with senior level staffers and members of Congress that are asking really tough questions.

I mean, I think back to my time there, seeing a room with Jimmy Jordan and John Lee,

Radcliffe and other people for hours and hours and outward cash, Patel, Tom Rooney,

my economy, none of that stuff is on television, but that's real oversight.

I think what Brad is asking and what I would be asking to Brad from the great state of Washington

is where's the real oversight, not the like professional wrestling oversight where this person

makes fun of that person's eyelashes, and this person makes fun of somebody's body type,

all that stuff is beyond juvenile.

I mean, I, that wouldn't even make me be with some butt head would be embarrassed at that.

Honestly, they would say, you know, that's a little juvenile, even for us.

That was a show, by the way, Mary Langston.

I'm sure you never saw it, but that was a show with two guys that acted very juvenile.

So I think there is real oversight that takes place.

I don't think it makes the news.

I wish it did.

I was reminded today.

I was looking at something about the report we wrote in the aftermath of four people being murdered

in Libya, and I wondered how many people ever read the report.

There were hundreds, if not thousands of man and woman hours that went into preparing that,

and yet the media, if it didn't involve Hillary Clinton, they didn't care.

So I do think that there's legitimate oversight that takes place.

I just don't think it makes the news, and that's a real shame.

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Well, in today with Donna from Texas, who writes,

who would you say are the top three coaches of all time when it comes to shaping players for life,

not just the game? And she also asked me who my favorite coach is too.

But we'll let you go first.

Non-rather you go first.

Okay, well, I think my favorite famous coach is probably Don Staley.

I love seeing how she helps her players grow and get better in the game,

and in life too.

But she also has fun with them.

And I think that's great to see.

She does fun TikTok dances with them.

And she seems to care deeply for others.

She even wears several beaded necklaces.

You've probably seen those tray every day,

that like a little girl who battled with cancer made her.

So she just seems to have just great empathy for others,

but also like gives everything she has on the court and off the court.

She is even nicer and better off court and off camera than she is on court and on camera.

She is, I mean, I don't pretend to know her well,

but I've been around her several times.

I always make a point of talking to her because I'm a rabid sports fan.

She is humble.

I don't want to say she shy, but she is understated.

I mean, she has definite opinions about things,

but she's an incredible recruiter and to be a great recruiter,

the kids, the young women have to think that you care about them.

So you stole one of mine.

So I'll go with, I knew I should have gone first.

That's what I get for being nice.

I mean, nice people never finish first.

That's what I gotta remind myself of.

I should have gone first.

I would say a guy you probably never heard of,

Bear Bryant, who was the coach at several schools,

but probably most famous.

Well, not probably most famous for Alabama.

His players, the ones that I have met that were on his teams,

even if they weren't starters, even if they were just walk-ons.

They talk about him in a way, unlike I've heard,

players talk about other coaches.

I would add Tom Landry, the former Dallas Cowboys,

football coach.

You know, my favorite pro player was Roger Stallback.

I think had tremendous respect for coach Landry.

He was a real gentleman.

He showed up on the sidelines in a coat and tie and a hat.

And I don't ever recall him like pitching a fit or breaking a clipboard or throwing us

any of that.

So I'd say Landry, I mean, the question is who had the most impact on the on the players.

I think if you hear the people that played for coach Landry talk about him,

I would add Pat Summett, also legendary, the late Pat Summett, legendary,

women's basketball coach in the University of Texas.

I think it was a mixture of love and fear that her players had for her while they played for her.

And then afterwards, I think it was all love.

But when she stared at you,

there was a piercing look that she had with her eyes, even watching games on television

that you felt sorry for whoever she was staring at.

But her players adored her.

John Wooden from UCLA, that's going back in time.

But his player seemed to have a reverence for him and the way he conducted himself.

I would add Tommy LaSorta, Sparky Anderson, Bobby Cox for baseball fans.

You know, I like Sparky Anderson because he was a Cincinnati Reds coach, Bobby Cox with the

Braves, LaSorta with the Dodgers, clear that his players is hard to manage professional athletes.

It's hard to do it and they managed to do it.

But I would also say to Donna from the great state of Texas that there are thousands and thousands

of high school coaches whose names we will never hear and never know that impact the lives

of young women and men throughout the country.

We'll just never know their names.

They're not Hall of Famers except if they were Hall of Fam for Life.

And in conclusion, I have to add two people from South Carolina, Shane Beamer and Davos Weeney.

They've had a lot of success in recruiting and on the field because they care about their players

as more than players and you can tell that when you are around them.

I have been around Shane a little more than Davo but I've been around both their programs and

I've seen them interact with their players.

You can tell by the way an athlete talks about his or her coach which ones have the most

profound impact on their lives. And for Davo and Shane, yes, they happen to be football coaches

but their real calling in life is to shape the lives of the young men that their parents

and grandparents and families have entrusted to them. And I think one of these days both those

guys' names are going to be on the list that you and I together came up with.

And I'm going to add one more that's a no-name or like you said and that's my brother.

He just became a coach for tennis and it's been just amazing to see him in that role.

And you're right, there's so many people out there that coach

kids and young people every day and we will never know their name but they're making such a huge

impact on so many people's lives. But that's a perfect time to say fame is not a virtue.

The fact that we don't know somebody's name is irrelevant to their significance in life.

So their high school coaches out there that also have to teach that have impacted the lives of

people. They have put them on the right path. They've encouraged them. They've offered them.

You may be the only words of encouragement they've ever gotten in life have come from a coach.

So you know, do not ever confuse fame with virtue.

Well, Will said tray and those are all the questions we have for today.

All right, we'll appreciate everyone's patience and we will see you next week.

Please keep your questions coming. No topic is off limits other than my GPA at Baylor.

And please know more questions about me taking career or guidance counseling advice from Dr. Kevin

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