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I'd like to welcome to show Howard Eisenberg, how you doing, Howard?

I'm good, Alex.

Good to meet you.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for coming on the show.

I'm excited to talk to you, sir, because I, your book decoding reality to dream it or

do it, but decoding reality 2.0, this is, this is must read kind of material for people,

especially if they're listening to this conversation.

Thank you.

I feel like we're going to go deep down some rabbit holes in this conversation, so everybody

prepared to have your minds blown, no pressure, but so my first question to you is, can you

talk about the abilities that you started to see in yourself at a young age?

I remember mostly the sense of curiosity of everything, but one of the ways was also

experientially, so I was interested as a kid in experiencing, in a sense, alterations

to my consciousness, like for example on a Murray go round, hanging over it with my head

towards the ground, and twirling, lying on the floor in my house, and I imagine it would

be likewise walking on the ceilings to the floor, so it's like the cleanest kind of

mental games.

Nothing spectacular about that, just maybe unusual for a child to do, and maybe still

have the memory of it, but that then morphed as I got a little older into my adolescence

into reading science fiction.

I was very interested again in the speculative aspect of science and how I was seeing within

sometimes years of these books coming out, which were purely fictional, manifesting

in reality, like the whole idea of space travel, of space program, really enough, even

the design of the spacesuits and some of the graphics of the early science fiction movies

and books, wow, I mean, it's like they anticipated two-way communicators and all that stuff, but

back to your question more directly in terms of starting to experience things that are

definitely way beyond the ordinary.

As I became more curious, partly as a free science fiction about the relationship between

imagination and reality, and in science fiction, you know, they had things like, as you may

know, teleportation and time travel and things of that nature, I got curious, this is also

pre-computer years and over 50 years ago, I'm 76 now.

I got curious about trying to find some serious books on this stuff, and I remember going

to some of the bigger at that time, paperback bookstores, and trying to find something with

somewhat serious about looking at this scientifically, and I found that there was actually a form

of science, which wasn't well known, called Paris a Conjuring, which studies things that

are beyond, sort of, speak besides, psychology, as it's normally thought of.

And I found out there were some serious researchers, one of which was J.B. Ryan, down in North

Carolina, and I went down and actually met him.

So I really started, you know, getting deeper into this area. So I was learning more intellectually

from people like him and the literature, that these things really could exist.

That it was really possible for you to do things with your mind that could be not explained

by our understanding of physical reality. In terms of personal experimentation,

I would think I was maybe in my mid teens when I decided to start experimenting.

And it sometimes may freak you out. I was a kid. I didn't know what I was doing, right?

I'm sorry, it's all that's supposed to be impossible. So, for example, I sit in the back of a

bus or a straight car, and I visually focus on someone at the very front of the bus or a straight

car. I wouldn't say anything. And again, I'm talking bus, street cars, and like some distance.

And with the intention that they should be aware I'm looking at them, so much so,

that they'll like, you know, jostle their position, like when you get a little unsettled.

And then turn around and look specifically right back at me at the back of the bus,

not making any sound. And I'm not wearing any unusual, you know, track visual attention. And it worked.

Number of times. And then I try to make it more challenging. Here I am, the unscientist. So,

I would choose somebody who's, let's say, reading a book. You know, so their attention is taken by

something. Good matter. Then somebody who was perhaps sitting in conversation with someone

didn't matter. Then I tried showing other people that I could do this, like in a large, you know,

area where, again, I couldn't be heard or to be seen. I could share with someone beside me as a

witness, watch, you know, what I'm going to do. Another example was when I became a camp counselor

in my late teens. And the counselors found out about my sort of exotic interest in things,

parasitological that, you know, bump in the midnight. And they decided to play a trick on me.

So the counselors had a meeting room that we would use in our off hours. And some of

me appointed to just keep an eye on the cabins while we were meeting as a group.

Before we came together as a group, I wanted to go occasion amongst themselves. They had decided

to play a trick on me. They were going to start, we would seem like an instant conversation about

psychic, you know, phenomena, mind of a matter. And set me up with three sort of tests. You might

call telepathy or clairvoyance. Lovely being, you know, direct contact with someone's mind,

sharing thoughts, clairvoyance being an awareness of something physically remote from you.

So a funny thing was they weren't, they were only doing it to freak me out, not in all

any serious ways. But they did choose three things. I got two of them.

They got freaked out. So that's your question. Like it was so innocent things, you know,

like that. Again, I wasn't trying to show off. I was trying to explore. Is it real? And can I

have some control over it? Well, then let me ask you though, when you went into you, you know,

the, the general field of academia and, you know, they're not very open to this stuff. No,

they were not. How were you? How did you even survive? So that's interesting. And I could give you a

answer that too, in part. So certainly the academic institutions, broadly speaking,

were not welcoming such things. And going back to the postgraduate research I did at

Mucle University in Montreal, Canada, which at the time was one of the most sustained

university departments of psychology in the world, maybe to top six. And the head of that department

was Professor Dio Heb, who subsequently became president of the American Psychological Association.

He was renowned internationally. And he's the father of boycott neuroplasticity.

Expression sells it fired together, wired together. He's the guy. And now he had said some years

before I applied to do this research there that he rejected all of the evidence in parapsychological

psychic research because he considered a priori impossible. He used that word a priori,

like theoretically impossible. And he even said, in print, and I admit this is prejudice,

but he was very bold and nobody thought. So I decided, I'm going to do it there, back to your

question. So now I went where you could argue, particularly the hardest way to do it. If the head

of the department says, it's theoretically impossible, how are they going to possibly allow me to do

that research? But that goes back if you like to the theme, the purpose, and I hope the benefit of

my book, to turn your vision, which you will intend into reality. So as it turned out,

and there's a big backstory, which I don't think you want to convince you, because I go through

many barriers. The university didn't want to allow me to do, I did this as a double degree,

I did a degree in medicine, and I did a postgraduate degree in psychologies at the same time.

And they initially tried to prevent me from doing that, not just because of the research,

and just I wanted to do it, even though that yet. He said, no one else has ever done two degrees

at one time here. So like, you know, we can't process that. And I had over come a lot of hurdles

for Mel's earsness. But anyway, back to Miguel. So I did do the research. They were spectacularly

successful, showing to left the amongst ordinary people in various highly controlled conditions,

because there was so cynical and skeptical about the possibility of this. And I just add a little

color to this story. It happened to be Professor Hibb, the chairman's secretary, who was the one who

typed up an actual thesis. And I would go into her office once in a while, which was adjacent to his,

for proofreading, you know, to make some minor corrections. And in one occasion,

here we're getting to the end of this process. And I was talking to her, he walked out of his office,

and she said to him, she called out, and she said, Professor Hibb, you were wrong, ESP is real,

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Now, within one year, there was a meeting of the American Psychological Association

to remember this correctly in Montreal. And for the first time, he admitted the possibility

of these short term telepathy. And then he, you know, went on. And as I

report in my book, it's subsequently, you know, acknowledging, yeah, we can't explain this

enough away. Just too much evidence. So let me ask you this then. And this is just a

strict question because we talk about decoding reality. Are we in the matrix?

Well, okay. So, so in a way, yes, but not the way it's sometimes being put out there,

you know, on a popular way. So one version of that, as you may know, is that we're in a

computer simulation from a civilization of the future. Sure. Okay.

On many levels, back to your question, it doesn't make sense as the explanation of metrics,

but I will tell you we are in one. And I'll explain why and how, but not that one. We're not in

a computer simulation civilization. Some third of some 13 year old. And because it goes back to,

you know, as I, as I, you know, first couple of chapters, as you remember, the first one is

things are not as the same. And the second chapter, pretty boldly, is the only thing you can

actually know, there's only one thing, you know, but you're awareness. So when you talk about

an advanced civilization, having as a computer simulation and all that stuff, it still goes back

to them or fundamental question. But where does the initial mind consciousness come from?

So if you say they create us and we're not real, sort of big, like we think we are, but they are.

But how do they have this ability of consciousness? So I think it's, there's so many assumptions

built into that as life and computer technology and time travel and all that stuff. And why they

would even want to do that. But just, you know, fundamentally, it's, it's, there's a principle in

science called Occam's Razor, also known as a law, principle, parsimony, which makes logical

sense because what it basically means is the least, you know, amount of assumptions is probably

the best approach to various situations if you want to understand them. The more assumptions you

make, the more liquid it is, you know, of no ways of possibility of error. So that's how I go back

to it. I go, like, without making assumptions, just on based on what we're being known, all of us

can verify. And I try to give those examples in my book of people, you're actually being able to

do it for themselves, some of these things. That's what we have to have as our kind of, you know, bedrock

to base our ideas on. But back to your question on the other side of that, because we aren't so

many tricks, but not as a static computer simulation. It's more analogous to a dream, like a grand dream,

a divine dream. And in some ways, we're sort of players in that dream to a certain degree,

like the Shakespearean concept, you know, all but players on the stage. But not like puppets,

because at a deeper level, as I try to explain my book from many different areas of science,

and some of the old wisdom and indigenous teachings, there's this convergent understanding that we

all come from a common source. I use the example of my books symbolically of waves in an ocean.

You can look at waves for a while, and they're separate, like, there's a big wave, small waves.

But they're in flux, they come in and out of the larger pot of the ocean. So they seem sort of

separated somewhat of an illusion and time from a certain vantage point. They're really part of

all the same thing. And I think similarly, we are like that. So I think we're in this, like,

dream-like world, created by, sort of, the big, divine dreamer. So we call it God-consciousness. I

call it universal mind. Maybe even a better word is just source, where we come from. But it's a

two-way connection. So it's not that we are created, it's just, you know, play things. They

players on the stage sort of speak going back to that. It's a two-way connection. Because we are

connected to that source, we can go back to the source.

When Jesus says, I and the Father won, but the Father greater than I, again, to me,

that's what he's describing. Or the King of God is within you, seeking you shall find.

And there's so many references, whether we use the New Testament that make people

would be familiar with here in America, or we use some of them more exotic, other religious

texts, or the indigenous teachings. They're all actually converging on the same picture,

which is very different than our understanding of reality. And I don't think it's just important,

you know, you just want to know things, or academically, because they get fundamentally also

explains why life as we know is collapsing around us in so many ways, so many different ways of

looking at quality of life. It is not looking good. And not just, you know, now for a few years,

but in the laws of have children, or grandchildren, oh my gosh, you know, what kind of world are they

coming into? So I think there's something fundamentally wrong in the way we're living our lives,

because we've forgotten the reality of where we come from, and how we're fundamentally really

connected. Well, this is really interesting, because I agree with everything you've said,

and a lot of the concepts of the Vedic texts, yogic philosophies, aborigini, the great dream,

Maya, this is all the same concepts, just different flavors of the same ideas.

But there, from my point of view, from having these, you know, very deep conversation with

it's so many people from around the world, I see some similar things to you. I see patterns

in very little, if any, disagreements in the core truths, maybe the packaging is different.

Yes, I agree. The more truth is different. I agree. Yes.

I would agree and disagree with you on the sense that I feel the things are collapsing around us,

because in one sense, I agree with you 100%. You could see it. It is visceral.

But on the other end, I see an awakening in people's curiosities to these conversations,

to these ideas that have never been here before. And I think the generations coming up are

even coming in with awarenesses and ideas that they look at things that my parents did, or for

God's sake, my grandparents did, and they just go, what are you talking about? This makes

sense because I have children, so they just, they don't comprehend things that we tell them about

in the 80s and 90s. They're like, yeah, people did what? And even now, they're like, why is that

happening? That doesn't make any sense. So I do think there's hope in addition, but from,

I've talked to some spiritual, some spiritual masters on the show, and I asked them this, and they

said, all the darkness that is being brought up needs to be brought up so it can be, a light can

be shined upon it. So we can deal with it and move on and evolve. Is that kind of your point of

view as well? Well, the reason I wrote this book was as a wake up call to the world, the global wake

up call, because of what I was aware of, and because I felt so I knew we're not aware of it,

not even having any curiosity to become aware of it. And because I thought there are some

the critical lines we're crossing in terms of sustainability, equality of life, and you know,

there's species here. I had to speak out. I'm a doctor. It was like a call on a different level.

I agree with you that there are some people now who are becoming more reflective, more questioning

of what matters, even the pandemic has done that for many people, you know, realizing maybe what

they've given up in terms of home life, family life, and even just downtime sometimes, you know,

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they're getting into ego, they're getting into fame, they're getting into being a media personality.

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climatic disasters hit many parts of the world. I mean, as you know, your West has suffered

historic drought. There's been historic fires in Europe,

historic flooding and Pakistan. I don't want to go on along the list because it gets really down,

but that is part of, you know, what's going on out there. And so it's so important for us.

I think I repeat to be awake to why it's all happening and how it doesn't have to happen.

You know, I say in a summary way, in my book, the only way out of this mass is in.

Yes. And it goes back to how at a deeper level, you know, where we're all connected,

or even if you want to go even before we're all at that level of total connection with each other

and everything, we get into intuition. And we also get into the richness of imagination.

And imagination is the source of everything that we have created as humans. Everything.

And I mean, literally everything that's been designed or created. It's so,

it's so medigrated, you know, I started, I have many different experiences. You may or may not know

if you've seen my website. So I've also been a Fortune 100 trainer and consultant. One of my

specializations was in creative thinking, you know, thinking of the box innovation.

And for so many people, they're so locked in to just sing things one way. But it can be taught,

we can, that's getting part of the purpose of my book, to teach people to have more choice

of how they perceive things, how they process things, and how they act what, you know, action they take.

Well, I mean, this is one of the reasons why I started the show is to get information like

this out there to the masses. And based on my numbers and based on what I'm seeing, there's

a lot of curiosity out there and growing by the day. So I know, but you know, I'm also a physician

and I still do, I still have a part-time medical psychotherapy practice. And I'm hearing patients

more and more come out with questions like this to me. What's the point, doc?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. And just before we started, you know, our discussion here today, a couple of hours

ago, I was talking with a young university colleague, he was telling about her 13-year-old daughter,

he said to her, sort of speak similarly, but she said the planet is dead. You know, what's the point

now? So I'm hearing that too, you know, maybe because of a physician. Maybe, yeah, and again,

and now, and I think this is where you and I will differ a little bit. I have a little bit more

of a positive outlook on where we can go. Hopefully is the better term, but I'm not delusional to what

is going on. Well, I would challenge you in who's more hopeful. Again, remember, I wrote this book

as a wake-up call for the entire world. Yeah. I don't think we have much time. Sure. There's a

critical window. So I don't know there's more more hopeful than I am because I'm already crazy

hopeful. So I'm very, very of the problems, but it's like I, you know, I try to teach both my,

like, coaching clients and my sickle, their patients, to have what I call a half cup full mindset.

Yeah. As opposed to half cup empty, or if you're like an optimistic mindset, more than a pessimistic

mindset. So I think it's that we can choose, and I choose that, but I'm very aware of the problem.

I agree with you 100%. I think that's it. I will wear the problem, but I do choose the optimistic

view of life where we're going without question. Now, let's get into a field that I'd love talking

about, which is quantum physics and spirituality. And I'd love to ask you this because you come from

this world, what problem does modern physics have with quantum physics? I've heard different, like,

they just ignore it. They don't want to think about it, you know, quantum entanglement doesn't make

sense. It kind of like throws their whole world of materialism out the door. It does. So is that

the, is that just like, it's just a, it's the Galileo effect essentially. I don't want to look through

the telescope. Yeah. I mean, the same thing. We came back to your questionary video about the

Parapsychological and Psychiatric Research, which I've had achieved most during the university.

Most people didn't want to consider it for a more possibility that it would even

was something that could be real. They'll learn, you know, studied experimentally.

Is that, you know, fear? Well, they might, for example, you know, one level, we could say,

why people wouldn't believe it and interfere it. They say, oh my gosh, people are in my mind.

You know, they know all my bad thoughts. So a lot of people have a lot to hide that way. And we

get caught up in our egos. And that's, again, part of the problem when we get into this extreme sense

that we're all separate from each other. Anyway, the account says what we get or, you know,

maturity accumulate. Right. Because we could take it all with us at the end.

He has the most things that the end wins, apparently. And then, and obviously that's what we take

with us to the other side. That's why we put these pieces of gold on our eyes to pay the

ferryman. And yet spiritually, we know that, you know, how should I say the, the more direct way,

the more, if you want to call it, almost guaranteed way, it's not attachment, not to bring anything

with you that you think you need a value externally, materially. Right. And that's the thing that

when you get into the world of quantum physics and you get in the world of modern physics,

materialism versus non-materialism. And which is basically the same thing we're dealing with

in life, the materialistic person who wants to, you know, they're trying to fill the hole

inside of themselves with stuff, money, power, whatever. Or the non-materialist who is looking

inward and is starting to open their awareness to a point where they start to see the truth

of we are all one and we have the non-attachment. And the higher you get into that vibration,

the more enlightened you become to the point where you could become an ascended master

as they did, as many as many souls have. So I think the battle in the physics community is a

complete example of what's going on in society. Well, I would even say, you know, in the psychology

community, you know, it's a point out, you know, the myth that the head brain, I call it. There's

two other brains in the body. As you know, I discovered my heart brain and they got brain

and microbiome bacteria in our large intestine. They still go on in denial that there is no evidence

to link brain as a producer of consciousness. They go on in denial. They don't even have a theory.

I have a hypothesis of how the mature brain can produce a mature consciousness, not even a theory,

but again, you know, they're just practicing denial of reality in this case. And as in the side,

just a funny comment about psychologists, so they're, you know, the experts of the mind, right?

When we use a test of creative thinking, we find that as you may not be surprised,

it's young kids, you know, seven years of age, or first of all the most creative of that stage of life.

But if we look at professions, one of the least creative professions when we give them these

types of tests are psychologists. So they think they understand the mind, you know, but it's

the exact opposite. But that's ego. It's always ego. When it comes to this kind of thing. Yes, and

by as an aside, I'm actually starting to work on a second book, and it's exactly on ego,

ego management, because I think I think the critical vulnerability we have that got us in this mess

is, is our difficulty regulating our own emotions, being too carried away by them,

particularly, you know, fear and greed, which are, you know, raining right now supreme almost

around the world. So I think that's really so important to learn how I, with my client,

I talk about learning to think through your emotions, not denying your denial to them, not trying

to suppress them. That doesn't work very long when you try to diet and stuff like that, but

thinking through them, because emotions can also give you sometimes power, passion to do good

things, but they cannot think. They are not wise. So we have to use our thinking ability to direct,

you know, the energies of emotion, but most people understand that. They don't know how to do that.

They don't even know it's possible to learn it. And I think that's why we're in the mess we are

broadly speaking. Now, a lot of the things that we, this whole phenomenon, all the stuff that you're

talking about, this is probably within the last, I guess, 2000 years or so, that we have, and

especially the last 150 years, where we've ramped up this ego materialistic concept to an

extreme that is unsustainable. But if you start looking back at these old texts, the mystics,

from 5,000, 7,000 years of the Vedics and things like that, the concepts that they were talking

about seem so much more evolved than where we are today. And a lot of these ideas are starting to

come out, creeping out concepts of meditation and yoga and consciousness in general. But

a lot of the concepts that you talk about, that they talk about in the Vedics are concepts,

or even you, we've been talking about today, where it's basically quantum physics is starting to

figure out, or at least starting to, or conversion with, because, you know, as I say in my book, and I

quote, as you know, number of very eminent physicists, who have totally moved now into the camp of

saying, you know, that materialism is not the explanation of what we call reality. Oh, yeah, it

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managing partner at Morgan and Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty

awesome. I think I saw Billboard years recently that said 20 billion won. 20 billion is insane number.

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23

after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows, so the number will

hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact

with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is

dialing pound law. It's pound 529 from your cell phone. We are always open. Our call center is

always waiting to take your call. 24 7 365. Wow, Dan Morgan. From Morgan and Morgan, America's

largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show. Thanks for having me. Visit forthepeople.com

for an office near you. And now back to the show. You know, like admitting it, but what they have

and they're some of the most dominant physicists. Yeah, Nobel Peace Prize winner. Yeah, I've had a

couple of, I've had a few Nobel laureates and and nominees on talking about that, talking about

the consciousness, talking about how the universe that consciousness is primal. Not primal, but it's

well, it's sensitive, basically, so the primary. It's the consciousness is everything.

Right. It's not secondary. For example, right now, conventional science in the West

particularly in the general population, they think consciousness again is produced by the headbrain.

Right. So they think again that, you know, material comes first. Physicality comes first.

We're seeing the exact opposite. No, no, it's consciousness that dreams up the brain, that

dreams up the body, that dreams up the material world around us. They can't get away around.

They can't even comprehend that. But they have dreams. So when dreams we experience the

matrix, the simulation in a way. But again, it's and then there's lucid dreaming, which I teach in my

book, you know, where you've been actually learn intentionally. Yeah, you go into the dream world

and change how it unravels. But there's still work up fear, whether it's to explore something.

Well, it is honestly the reason why and I have this debate constantly on the show in regards to

the reasoning why people are so resistant to new ideas, to out of the box thinking in the scope

of science, in the scope of nutrition, in the scope of religion, in the scope of spirituality,

is because they have told themselves a story that they've constructed in their own mind

to make sense of the world and it's the foundation of their existence. And if I believe,

if I'm a Catholic and I believe in reincarnation, it starts to shake the foundation and I can't

have that. So hence, I have to defend myself just to defend the story as opposed to being open

to ideas. So that's definitely one level explanation and probably, you know, the more general one.

Sure. But on a much deeper level, you know, to share my book too, another explanation is if we're

all dreamed up by the mind consciousness, God consciousness, source. And as I said, it's

a two-way relationship. But what's the purpose? Like going back to our understanding and putting

more popular here in the west of God, being all knowing and all powerful. Why would God bother

to create us at all? If God has everything, knows everything, why create us? So we might say,

you know, once we're created, he takes care of us or she. But why in the first place create us?

And I think it's not a sound to strangers and words are awkward here. Let me talk about things

beyond our words. But it's almost like God consciousness, universal mind, source needs us to

more fully experience reality. I'll give you an example of that. You have a face. Now, you know,

you have one. I can see it. But you can't see it right now unless you're looking in the

monitor. Or you look in a mirror. So even though it's your face, no question, you know, to you about

that or other people, it's just like challenging you, but it's your face. But for you to see your face,

you have to have some external device, be it as simple as a mirror or like trying to begin

display screen, whatever it might be, be able to see it. So similarly, so now it's increasing your

awareness, having this device, even though you're coming from consciousness, having this physical

device, how to be more aware in your consciousness, right? And then you can see that blemishing your face,

or, you know, growing your hair, whatever, and get your makeup right, depending on what's going on.

So it increases in the sense of power to you. So similarly, us being extensions of divine

consciousness and everything with us, there's all the sentient beings and also everything we consider

to be part of nature, material world. It enables the divine consciousness to have even a greater

awareness, an expansion of awareness. Yeah, it makes us understand it's a purpose if you want to call

it that way. It's a beautiful, it's very the allegory of the cave, kind of exactly, explanation of

of it, because it's so funny, I was talking to a spiritual master the other day, as one does.

And he said the exact same thing you did in a different tone or a different way, but he said,

God created us as an ex, he needs, he needs, it needs us to further understand itself.

In a way, in a way, hopefully again, expand awareness. Right. Exactly. And then we are all connected

to this source energy. We are not disconnected. We are like you said, the waves, but we're all connected

to the ocean, but it's the false narrative that materialism and society is put out that we are all

separate. Very much so. And coming back to so they said, you know, you're correct in terms of why

psychologically emotionally, we have that resistance to these realizations or accepting these

beliefs, but going back to the deeper, again, explanation of where we come from, why we're here.

So our understanding too, I quote, for example, Alan Watts in this regard, but other teachers have

come up with, you know, a similar description, that in a way, to make this all more interesting,

we're buying consciousness, God, universal mind, source, puts a certain level of inherent randomness

into this. So there's an intrinsic unpredictability of how things will totally unfold.

And if there wasn't, think about how boring it would become.

Well, free will. You know, you may have a favorite series on whatever. I don't

watch exactly the same episode every time. It would be really unpleasant. It would not be

something at all. You'd be attracted to. So in using Alan Watts' terminology, it's like

God's creating a game of hide and seek. So purposely, as part of the design, it's not so obvious.

We have that connection. And that was part of the role, historically, a shaman and medicine man,

to help people keep that connection, that alignment, you know, with the deeper wisdom,

just like, you know, the law of seven generations, you know, they're just teaching to think the longer

picture, the bigger perspective. So I think that's part of it. I think it's an intrinsic design and

reality to mix things up a bit, to make it less obvious. But that's free will. That's the, that's

the element. Yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the moment of like, it's random, because free will, we,

at any moment, I could choose to do something. You can choose who's something. But from again,

from my understanding, the way our lives are laid out, there is probability of where we're going

to go. But in many times, it can go another way. Right. So then I just as in quantum mechanics.

Right. We, we look at these so-called particles or ways of probability. And the best we can do

is a probability of where it's going to land and what's going to be. Right. Which completely laughs

in the face of materialism. So then I've, I've come up with this and maybe someone else has

before, but I said, I asked somebody once ago, so are we the algorithm of God? Are we the code

that he is putting out into the, into the, into the reality of the universe? Yes. Jesus says,

I and the father want these things I do, you shall do too. Right. Yes. I mean, that's how I actually

looked at the Bible. It's coded. Of course. No wonder. Well, I wonder so many, you know,

some of these disagreements about what it means. And if I call correctly, there, there's 40,000

different denominations of Christianity alone in the world right now, 40,000 different ones.

And among them, as you may well know yourself, they don't even agree in the same Bible.

They don't. A lot of us just think badly they do, but they don't at all. God, no. And, and beyond that,

I don't know, they've understood it. It's coded. And has been rewritten so many times by so many

different points of use and so many different, it's yeah, it's don't get me started. So what,

what I'd like to doubt, you know, Aldous Huxley was brilliant and his book, which I probably

call the the Pernion philosophy. And most of us were, we're, you know, proud of us, say, with

different religions in our homes. Maybe if you were coming from atheistic homes, probably most of us

over the years came from homes of some denomination. And we were taught by our families usually.

We are fortunate. We are blessed. We're in the right one. Everybody else is the wrong one.

So I'm just wrong, like, you know, just not the right one. Some worse, you know, like it's,

you know, devil stuff, you know, like they're totally, you know, into evil or misled. And that's how

we were taught about it. Like we were taught, you know, we have the right one and all the other ones

are wrong. You're lucky. Now, I just knew as a young kid logically, something's wrong here.

But a lot of people never went beyond that. And they still don't, you know, that, you know,

we, you know, our generation is, you know, just one of many that has followed. This was in any

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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan. Hey, how's it going today?

It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do. I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and

a managing partner at Morgan Morgan, which is America's largest injury law firm. That's pretty

awesome. I think I saw Billboard years recently that said 20 billion one. 20 million is insane number.

Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually, I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22,

23 after this year. And each year we get bigger and better and our army grows. So the number will

hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in

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So we get, we get so trapped in those, you know, identities. And Huxley looked at question

differently. And he said, maybe what's in common to all of these is more like the original truth

signal that we should be more guided by. And so that's how he looked at it. So he looked at

what if anything's in common, all of these different religions that otherwise don't recognize

and don't even agree the other religions of our religion. But what at the core? Maybe they use

different words and different parables and examples. But the core, what are the similar things,

you know, they land on the same page on sort of speak. They come very John. And it's so enlightening.

And it fits the latest discoveries of quantum physics. Totally. Plus what we're learning again about,

you know, consciousness probably in all just days of consciousness. Totally.

And in talking about different states of consciousness, what they're now discovering in

meditators, heavy meditators where they're able to go down to a frequency that they weren't even

able, they didn't even know about. It was some Tibetan monks that said, no, no, I can keep going.

And it's a completely, and they say that the deeper or the more disconnected from the mind,

you get the more access you have to the universal understanding. Like a simple way to do that.

And this is very simple. Well, it's part of what I described in my book when I trigger techniques

to play with reality. A simple technique is to just focus on your breathing and particularly trying

to change the balance of what we call your inhalation or your in-breath compared to your

out-breath, your exhalation. So that your out-breath, your exhalation is about twice as long

in length and duration and time as your in-breath. And to play with that, so a bit, and not to strain

yourself physically when you're doing this. And then have a little more of a gap between the

completion of your in-breath when you fully have inhaled and before you exhale.

And then have a longer gap pause between when you fully have excelled and before you inhale.

In that pause between the longer exhalation and the coming inhalations, people can feel

some of the depth in just a moment of time. No drugs, no special bar I'm required. Agreed.

Agreed. It's happened to me. Yeah. It's happened to me. I'm a heavy meditator, so I felt that.

And I realized that the ideas I'm presenting are at the minimum provocative because it's

challenging with a lot of them just take for granted. But I think the evidence is so comprehensive

that I'm presenting and the logic connecting it. And then the experiences I just give you one,

just, you know, breathe again and remind everyone. If people are open to it, I mean, this does give them

the way forward, withhold an empowerment from that. And that's the thing I love about your book. And

what you're doing, it is giving people the power to do it within themselves. Which is the core

teachings of so many mystics and so many spiritual masters across the millennia is it's not outside

of you. It's inward. You have to go inward to find the answers. You have to go inward to find the

power within all that's always inward. It's never, ever outside of you, ever. I know. And we now

are living in an age technologically, you know, with our smartphones. Sure. Where so many of us

are almost, you know, addicted to our attention being outward. Yes. And I don't mean outward,

just like, you know, original brands were out and about. And I don't even mean just our screen

because a lot of people, when they're not looking at their phone, they're still thinking about

did they get that message, you know, and who they have to message. And they check their calendar.

And so even though if they're not in this even physically operating, you know, their phone or

it's not even physically available to them to use immediately, they still occupy bandwidth.

And that's just one example. I'd love to talk to you about the concept of the multiverse and parallel

realities because it is something that is starting to come into the zeitgeist more and more with

popular movies and ideas. What is your take on it? And from a scientific standpoint and from a

kind of more spiritual standpoint? Well, think of first of all historically, as you know,

we've had so many different, very different cultures over the years in so many different ways.

With their own levels of technological advancement and architecture and agriculture and

practices and so on. And they seem like so fundamentally different. And even now is a good

part of the world. It seems so fundamentally different in their ideologies and their use of

technology and how they relate to working with agriculture, et cetera. But it all comes from one

source. So when you ask them multiverse, well, and then going back to the dreamer analogy,

of course, we are not the all of it. We are connected to the all of it potentially if we go in.

But we, as we experience ourselves with some separation right now, the individuality

are not the all of it. And this is not the only type of reality that can be experienced.

And it's not even a question of, you know, time travel.

Choose me or the existence of aliens. I mean, right now, we potentially can go into a totally

different reality. I don't want to blow your mind too much. Please, we love to blow minds here.

I guess like it's infinite. Like anything you can imagine.

Eventually, in some way, it can be manifested. And, you know, as I pointed with some very,

I think to the big examples, some of the major discoveries in science, some of the major technological

devices, the fundamental things we, you know, based on what's called, you know,

the mass civilization on all came and were acknowledged by the inventors in their imagination.

Totally. So I repeat, everything can come from us. Because again, these phones are like magic,

right? And you think of what you can do with them. And that's why I said like the new outcome of

a subar era are those who write code for these applications. Because they're playing with me,

playing all types of things. And whether they're playing with really information, ideas,

it's not physical technology. That's doing it. And our devices, as you know, in part,

they're actually getting smaller and smaller and simpler and simpler in some ways.

When you think of what, you know, this would have been a mainframe, perhaps,

huge, you know, part of a physical room at one point. And still wouldn't have had the speed.

So the weird part is, you know, we're doing these that are more and more sophisticated with

technology. But the material base of that technology is becoming less and less evident or arguably

required, who ain't closer closer, just coming from a mind alone, conscious and alone.

So in regards to the concept of the multiverse, from a point of a scientific point of view,

how is that possible? Is there a way to explain the multiverse in a way of being able to?

So here's, and if you're like, you can call it a problem or an opportunity, anything you can imagine

can happen. So if you can imagine a part in your art, because you're bringing it up,

yes. And it's not a question of how I'll repeat everything comes from imagination.

We don't have to know how. The imagination shows us the way.

Okay. So then let me ask you this. On the psychedelics standpoint, and what do you want to talk

about another realm? Yeah. Which is getting more and more popular, good and bad today, yes?

Yeah. And well, they've finally, the criminalized it and now the research is happening and it's

actually helping a tremendous amount of people. Can you explain from your point of view what happens

when someone takes a psychedelic? Where does it go? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And a few

respects, right? So first, let's start with actually more conventional scientific and popular belief

that brain produced content, which is is not. So it's very interesting, because when people take

psychedelics, I'm thinking like Silly Siphon, which is one of the problems out there, but ones like

that as well, it actually reduces the brain activity, particularly what we call the default

mode network, where they get you to complicated neurologically. But like critical important parts of

the brain that we think of that are important for our higher powers of thinking and functioning.

Action knocks them out, right? That's just by the way, deep meditation.

Correct. So, you know, on one level, my response about, you know, what will the psychedelics do?

They knock out the filtering of the brain. They allow you more access to the greater

expanse of consciousness. In my, what am I here? Yes. Upwork still currently, medical psychotherapy.

There is increasing interest, as you know, in using psychedelics to facilitate psychotherapy.

I think I just screened frozen, are we? Okay. Yeah, I'm here.

I was there for more. So they're using psychedelics to facilitate psychotherapy. So I explain

neurologically for so what's happening? Contribute people think that in the hatches, you know,

brain functionally. No, it takes it out of the way. But why is it a benefit clinically for patients

in the proper situations? And I think it does require a proper situation called the

end of the guide in the setting as I call it. Because when you are under the influence of a

psychedelic, even if you have unfortunately been a victim of great abuse, great trauma,

have good decisions like we call PTSD, it liberates you from that. You realize you're so much more

than your memory or what happened to you. Again, you get more in touch with that infinite resourceful

in us. And it's not a temporary thing. It's like only when you're, you know, sort of stoned

under the influence of these drugs, you feel that way. No, when you have the proper guide therapist

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I've got Dan Morgan here on the pod. Say hi, Dan.

Hey, how's it going today? It's going good, man. Tell us who you are and what you do.

I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan Morgan, which is America's

largest injury law firm. That's pretty awesome. Um, I think I saw billboard of yours recently that

said 20 billion one. 20 million is an insane number. Yeah, 20 billion recovered. It's actually,

I think, somewhere north, probably closer to 22, 23 after this year. And each year we get bigger

and better and our army grows. So the number will hopefully keep getting bigger and bigger as time

goes on. Awesome. So how does someone get in contact with Morgan and Morgan? What would I do if

I got into an accident? Probably the easiest way is dialing pound law. It's pound 529 from your cell

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Dan Morgan from Morgan and Morgan America's largest injury law firm. Thanks for coming by the show.

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And now back to the show. Yeah, I actually, I actually interviewed a, um, and Afghanistan, but

who came back and he went to, uh, to South America and did three days of ayahuasca.

Mm-hmm. And he had, he had a really bad case of PTSD. Yeah. And he came back and he's like, I was

cured. Yeah. After those sessions. And now he goes, now he goes to the vet or the, um,

all his vet friends and's like, you've got, yeah, go down, just because it liberates you.

And he didn't become like a shaman or anything like that. He's still a, a military, you know,

as he calls to the job. Most people, you know, they're in the proper triggers. They don't want

sane from that. But if somebody was just wildly experimenting with it, you know, it can't

cast harm to them. They don't know what they're doing and they don't know when to help them.

That's the thing I was talking to a neuroscientist the other day about that specific thing about

psychedelics and what it could do. Um, when I spoke to a spiritual master the other day,

or you actually spoke into a yogi, when I asked about psychedelics, he's like, you,

this is really beautiful. He goes, you're walking into a door that you weren't invited in.

And you need to be careful because you also aren't prepared for what happens inside of it unless

you have guidance and you're only in there for a short amount of time. Whereas the yogic perspective

is you spend years preparing your awareness to get there naturally, which is what Ramdas said.

He goes, he was tired of going on trips until he met the Maharishi and he's like, oh,

someone who's there all the time. I want to do what he's doing and he's there all the time.

It because, but I was, it was actually that neuroscientist and they said the exact same things.

People think or that that mind speeds up, it takes it offline, which then a lot. So that's

then that begs the question, which is what meditation is so powerful is when you quiet the mind

and disconnect, you're able to connect to other aspects of reality within yourself. And the yogis

have been talking about this and the, you know, meditators and even martial artists who even

connect, for example, they're going too far off to things like intuition, to get feelings,

to become more aware of them, to value them more highly that sometimes they're really good cues

to what's the right way forward. So what, so then we ask you, what are we connecting to?

Is it the quantum field? Is it the Akashic records? Is it like what, you know, those are all things

that are more like things that which we're aware and like, you know, one of the things I really enjoy

too and, you know, some of the ancient Vedic teachings is, if you know the expression and I

used in the book, the knower cannot know itself. It can only know things outside of it. So we're

aware of things, but back to the thing about looking in the mirror, you know, and I'll take another

angle of that for more. So when you look in the mirror, you see your face and you know what your

face, you've seen it before, knew that if you try to maybe move it or touch it, you know, you've

seen it correspondingly, changing visually. But although you know it's your face,

and although you may be looking at your eyes, what you see in the mirror is not you.

It's a reflection of your face. It's not you. Even though it's your face and you see eyes,

as you look at it, for example, with well-dominated, those eyes aren't seeing you.

You're seeing it. Now, who are you? Is it your body? You know, I go through the exercise of my book.

No. So when you ask about things like a cosmic records, the multiverse and all that, it's all within

the divine source consciousness. All of it. It's, again, infinite possibilities. There is no restriction.

It's just such a fascinating conversation. I know a lot of people listening right now,

their minds are blown. I think we're both crazy. No, they're listening. I hope they don't

think we're crazy. It doesn't matter if they don't. That's how I feel too at this point. You know,

I wrote us a wake-up call. I think people really need to be awakened. I'm coming from a good place.

I help people. I share my increasing awareness. But these kind of conversations, which I have

quite often on the show, I just look at all these ideas. This is fundamental stuff. This is just

basic stuff of understanding of the nature of reality. And again, because I keep talking to

so many different people from different walks of life who are saying the same things in different

ways, it's just pretty fascinating to see this. And then this is the other thing too. If it rings

true to you, then this is for you. Now, you are ready for this information. If it doesn't,

discard it and move on and live your life the way. You know, and maybe the seed is planted,

maybe five years from now, 10 years, and now you'll grab it as many things did in my youth

that I didn't understand. In my case, I feel I'll say that I'm more on parata,

you know, as a doctor, as an educator. So even if people don't know these things,

don't have an interest in it, then you're not resistant to it. I feel it's kind of my

obligation, if I'm aware of something, you're not aware of, that's really critically important to

them to try to find a way, in a friendly way, to rein to their attention.

That's all we can do, my friend. That is all we can do. That's right. I say you can't take on

something else karma. Exactly. You can't take someone else's karma up. Now, this is something that

always fascinates me in the medical community. This is the quantum mechanics of medicine, the placebo

effect. It throws everything out of whack for them in regards to experiments, and I still remember

talking to a doctor. He's like, yeah, we were doing this experiment, and the placebo effect just

kept throwing all my findings off. I'm like, maybe you should look into that. So can you explain

to people who don't understand what the placebo effect is? There's a concept of it, but also the

deeper power that is going on. Good. Glad to. But before I do that, I managed to solve it to

talk to you about the experimenter effect, because the placebo we're talking about, things that affect

us physically or our consciousness in the form of some type of drug substance that we're given,

but the experimenter effect refers to, sometimes the unconscious or subconscious biases,

experiments have for a certain type of theory or hypothesis. And so they get the results there,

sort of expecting. And it's a very serious problem in science generally, in particular in psychology,

what they call replication. When other people try to repeat the same experiment, they very rarely

come up with exactly the same and convergent findings. It's a real problem in science and

taking psychology, the replication crisis, because of this experimenter bias. Even if you

assume honesty as they, this is going to be subconscious. Now back, let's get just so that, you know,

the power, how our mind affects things. But coming back more directly to the placebo effect is

it's fascinating on so many levels, because at one level, it's such definitive proof of what they

call parapsychology, psychokinesis, PK, mind over matter. So if you are given something that looks

like a drop, it could be an empty capsule, they could have just ordinary sugar in it, or some other

we call chemokinert substance, they're going to do anything to you. But it looks like a real tablet

or a capsule or a syrup, you know, whatever it might be. And it's given to you in a convincing way.

Many people, on average, about 30%, will have the, you know, so-called effect benefit of this

really fake truck. And when you give them these, we have to do this actually experimentally,

we want to introduce new medications on the market. They have to prove them one, they have an

effect. They have to, you know, secondly, they're not harmful. And thirdly, it's more effective

than that effect than the seabulls. And most drugs by contrast, you might think, you know, a real

drug has found a percent effective. No, it's more like 60 to 70 percent. I want to talk about

side effect issues in terms of how, you know, why they could be used. So it's not like the real

thing is 100 percent. No, the real thing is about 60, 70 percent. And there's still issues I say

about the quality. The seabulls coming around 30, 35 percent, but half of that. And that's a done

train people. Here's another thing about, you know, their side of that. So when they do this

in the drug trial process to, before they get regulatory approval, when they're giving it to

these patients, they have them feel like questionnaires reporting various, you know, benefits and

ditch side effects. And it seems quite straightforward to, you know, patients in these things that

they're looking for side effects because they sort of know we can get side effects from drugs

to some degree. But here's the funny thing. Remember, the seabulls chemically inert. It has no effect

mostly or physically on you except what you expect, basically.

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I'm Dan Morgan. I'm an attorney and a managing partner at Morgan Morgan, which is America's

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And now back to the show. Many of them write down all types of negative side effects.

You know, it gave me a headache. It gave me diarrhea. I got a rash. I'm not joking. Yeah.

Because if you have a negative expectation back to the power of imagination, it can manifest

negatively. It works both ways. So we need to be careful, mindful of how we direct

our awareness and our intentions. Because it can have effects. Not just in our well-being.

And that is what I asked you about the placebo because it is such a powerful lesson in how

powerful our minds are. And without training, imagine if we train people through imagery and

have no cell of noses and so on. So do we control our own reality? Can we design our own reality

in this world? We do agree. You know, I'll see as a reference of Shakespeare's comment that

we're all players on the stage. And in a way, in terms of this, you know, divine dream consciousness,

we are. But as you may know, in the world of, you know, acting stage productions,

you see the characters on the stage have assigned roles. And it's scripted in some way.

And we have the factor question. And we have the powered improvise. We don't have to be stuck in

that role. We don't have to follow the script. Many has never questioned us. We don't have to.

I mean, I myself, I've had several different careers. And I'm with them quite simultaneously.

You know, I'm supposed to be able to do that. Going back to what I said about McGillian

Mercy doing this together. That's a long time ago. You can't do that. Who's ever done before?

Those are artificial of those barriers. But if you believe them, they'll be real for you.

Go back to play those games. So then we are, we are all given a part in this life. Like an actor

would give you a given a part. Yes, but we have the opportunity as it's two ways, right? To reclaim

our ability to improvise suddenly. Correct. So the script is written, but we can improvise a script.

Then we can move in different places on the set. But there is still those barriers, not barriers,

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levitation when I was a kid. Sure. Oh, I'm sure. Well, I mean, I've talked to yogis who've

levitated. I've talked to him. I was just a kid. I was just playing with it.

So it's possible. There's a lot of possibilities.

Well, you could hear the other way around. Nothing's impossible. That doesn't say totally good

because bad things can happen too when you open it up that way. Sure. But that's kind of how I

look at it. Nothing's impossible. My first year was my mother and she taught me. There's no such

thing as cat. I didn't realize years later until, you know, I was wondering about to invest in

my studies and maturity. How powerful and wise that was. Oh, yeah. Yeah, without question.

Nahara, I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests. What is your definition of living

a good life? Be true to yourself. Being authentic. How do you define God?

Our source. That's from where we come. That's from where we're connected to all.

And what is the ultimate purpose of life?

To expand awareness and connect with every aspect of awareness through the field of love.

And where can people find out more about you, the work you're doing, and pick up this

amazing book, Dream It, to do it. Thank you. My website, which is Dr. Howard Eisenberg.com.

The book's available primarily online through Amazon Barnes and Noble.

The chapter's in to go. It can be ordered at bookstores, but generally it's most available online.

And do you have any final words for our audience?

I thank you all, you and the audience, for listening. And I hope you're reflecting on what I'm

sharing. And I hope after this, reflecting even more day play and being immersed by it.

I friend, I appreciate you and the work that you're doing in this world. Thank you again for coming

on. Thank you, Alex. Be well.

Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today. If you feel call to explore this

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