Radio Replay - Inside Michigan Basketball (Mar. 9)

Let's talk Wolverine's hoops. Welcome to Inside Michigan Basketball. Over the next

hour, we'll take you inside both the men's and women's basketball programs. Now hear

your hosts, Brian Bush and Terry Mills. What a day at Chrysler Center yesterday. The

Wolverines not just celebrating senior day, not just celebrating a big 10 championship

in a 19-in-1 conference record, but downing Michigan State 90 to 80. We're here to break

it down with head coach Dusty May in a little bit on Inside Michigan basketball, also

Kim Barnes-Rico and the women's team. They've got a week to get ready for the NCAA tournament

and we'll find out Saturday if Michigan will host the first two rounds of the NCAA tournament.

But Terry Mills and on much that rivalry yesterday means to you Michigan's first regular

season sweep of the Spartans since 2014. Oh, that sounds great.

And what can you say? It's a great day to be a Michigan Wolverine. Special time. Love

the atmosphere. Fans showed up, showed out. In the past, you would see a mix of a little

green and white. You didn't see that. I mean, they didn't sell their tickets. They came

and they sat down in those seats and they shared it and this Michigan team gave them

some results. How did Michigan get that result? There was a

a herky jerky little field game early on because of a lot of the reviews and the referee

discussions that were requested by both sides. I don't even really think it was the official's

fault. It was just kind of how the game went and then we got to the basketball and it was

high level basketball. Yeah, when the game started, I wasn't sure we're going to get to

50 points. I thought it was going to be old school, but I wasn't sure if we're going

to get out of there for midnight. Yeah, 45 to 50 and then you get all these replays

going on. But that just shows you how competitive that matchup is, no matter what.

But I spoke to a lot of people and say, I don't know if they were playing for last place.

I mean, you want to win that ball game and that's what went into that. So good to see

the players were dialed in. This team is special. They're Michigan state team is extremely

tough. They're going to be competitive and I think that comes from the coaches and this

team we came out victorious. It was a great matchup and awesome way to close the regular

season for a Michigan men's team that now heads to the big 10 tournament as the one

seed. They'll take on one of four potential teams, but likely other Iowa or Ohio state.

They're still planning to play for even if Michigan's already won a big 10 title. Yes,

it is. I mean, you don't want to just go into this and say, Hey, we don't want to win.

We'll just go back home. That's not the mindset of the Michigan team. They want to win

every ball game. And as they win games, they're just chasing history right now and why not

continue to chase it. Don't take anything for granted because this game could be here

today and go on tomorrow. So when is much of you can? Oh, down. All right. We got Dusty

May standing by. He joins us in our next segment. Then a little bit after the bottom of

the hour had coach Kim Barnes or Rico, Michigan women's basketball. They went one in one

in their big 10 tournament this past weekend, a week of preparation before the NCAA tournament

brackets come out on both sides. A later to talk with coaches, Dusty May and Kim Barnes

or Rico here on inside Michigan basketball. And we return from Learfield.

Here with Dusty May on inside Michigan basketball after one heck of a Sunday inside Chrysler

Center coach, let's start with Dusty May the dad for senior day with Charlie with Anna

Eli walking out there. It was a quick flip you had to make from coaching a game to

coming over and seeing us to then being Dusty the dad. What was that all like as you look

back? You know, one of the many things that coach Boyton does for me and our staff is

just always think ahead and and he has great insight. And he just said, Hey, as soon as

the game's over, you're going to go be dad for a minute. We'll handle this. Don't think

about whatever you just just be ready to go with Charlie. And then you can pivot from

there. And so, you know, the nut job that I am all I kept thinking about is like me and

Charlie's not going to be here next year. I'm not enjoying the moment. I'm just thinking

like, dang, he's not going to be a practice. I'm not going to walk by and and make a little

joke to him during practice or see him out there doing scout team or playing with the managers

after the practice or whatever the case. And so there's a moment of sadness of like, wow,

this is another one of those family just transitions that are they're extremely difficult

for all of us. Yeah, I like to call them unsung heroes. Give a lot of credit to the managers

to the coaching staff for being able to take some of that pressure off of you and take

pressure off one another. I don't think either get a whole lot of credit. No, Terry.

When I came up in the business, it was a different game. There were three assistant coaches,

a head coach, and at Indiana, there was a trainer and a secretary. That was the staff. So the

senior managers, it was a hierarchy where the seniors were video coordinators. There were

director of operations. They were basically camp directors as a freshman year manager.

As a sophomore, you start phasing into whatever area you think you're good at film, whatever the

case. And so now the staffs are so big. And so these guys don't have the opportunity typically

to grow and develop where they're ready for salary positions at college. That's what I should

say. And because of our staff, the way they invest in people and developing humans, our managers

have a big role in our stats and our video breakdowns and projects. And so these guys are ready

for whatever's next. And we're going to we're going to try to continue to develop our managerial

program because Jay Billis has been very popular for talking about managers. When you talk about

humility, you talk about guys that will do anything for the team. And then you factor in that they

were able to get into Michigan on their own means that they're the best and the brightest and also

have the feel and the human side of it where they want to be a productive member of a team. And so

those guys, I could go on and on about our managers, man, I love those guys. I hated to look out and

see the ones that we're going to be they're going to be leaving us next year. But with the program,

we're developing those guys will be back and be around and still be still be a part of it.

Yeah, shout out to Nick, Sam Garrett, Brendan, Ryan, Reagan and Anthony for all their hard work and

all the others, the non senior managers as well. And talking to Will Chatter after everything went

down, that was a spur of the moment speech that he shared. And if you missed it or weren't at

Chrysler Center or had to leave after the game, it's on defend the block, the post game episode.

If you want to listen back to Will's thoughts. And he mentioned the man was one of the first things he

did was shout out the managers. I think it speaks to a lot of things, including Will and who he is.

But it doesn't go unnoticed by the players, what those guys do. No, the man, it's it's crazy to

because when you see the former players come back in town, they're usually with a manager with

that was a roommate or somebody that they just spend a lot of time. And when you're in the gym with

someone and you're guarding them or playing one on one guy to defense or whatever the guys do with

with whoever's rebound and for the burn of the gym, there's a bond that that comes with work at

hard together and figuring stuff out and going through highs and lows. And so the managers become a

part of their lives, especially the ones that that are trying to get into coaching and spend a

lot of time in here. And so it's really cool to see. And then once again, it's so different when

I was a manager, I was essentially told, do you want to be looked at as a play as a as a friend of

the player or an extension the coaching staff. And now the way college basketball and athletics in

general have transitioned into this partnership, there doesn't have to be that line. You have to be

a can do it between the two and be able to I think help the players think like the coaches and see

the game through their perspective and then vice versa help us coaches maybe see something that we

didn't notice with the players because they're with them on, you know, they're with them in a gym at

6 a.m. Yeah, coach, what is considered a day off in your program? I know I hear that word all the time

day off, just seeing wheelchair are here. Your whole staff is here, but it's a day off that that

doesn't really ring a bill with a day off, you know, to me. Yeah, you know, in coach B line,

I've leaned on him a lot for just advice and just in general and, you know, some of it you use,

some of it you don't and I've used to about 90% of the one thing he told me said try to get away

on your off days and the way I'm wired, I just I like to stop through the training room and just

have these conversations short conversations with our guys and check on them and just, you know,

just look them in the eye and see if you can feel what they're what they're thinking or where they

are at that moment and see, you know, so we're here. They, you know, we don't we tell our guys,

it's whatever you need. If you feel like you need to keep that jumper fresh, then then come in,

get some shots up. If you feel like you need some treatment, do that. If you need a massage,

we'll have that for you like whatever you need to feel like you're at your best and some of the

guys, they don't come in. They need a day to decompress and get some air, some sunlight focus on

academics, whatever they need. So a day off is more of a whatever you need day and it's not the

coaches trick bag. We're not, we're not telling them it's a day off. Right. And then say,

and well, if you're not in, though, just expect, expect consequences. We refer to the

shout out, what are the old Indian assistants? He called it the coaches trick bag. We try not to

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Wolverines coming off a victory over Michigan State on Sunday gearing up for a matchup with

one of four potential teams in the Big Ten tournament in the Friday quarter final tip off at

noon eastern coming up on Friday from Chicago. We'll talk about that in a little bit. But

let's start with the 90-80 win over the Spartans. Similar to the Duke game, your front court had

to battle some foul issues. A dimara and more as Johnson Jr. each pick up to did not play a single

second after those two fouls. What did you guys glean from past experiences to apply to this

that allowed you guys to get the win? Well, we decided to go small and just try to get it to

halftime in a one or two possession game and credit will and yaks and and rotty. They were banging

bigger bodies and I thought we offensively we played well down the stretch. We're able to

score the last five points of the half in the last minute and we thought that was big just to

get into the halftime with a die having two and res having two. It's like our turnovers. When

our turnovers lead to dunks or layups and they're dead, then we can live with that. The fouls,

if they're aggressive fouls, if they're plays that are going to lead to something that's positive

than we can live with them. It's just a dies two fouls. The first one that's a post up at 19 feet

and he just grabs the guy's arm for no reason. I mean, we don't even really want to get that catch

if we have to get it challenged. And then a second one is just kind of a misfortune where he's

jumping in the air. He makes contact and kind of just gives a guy a little nudge and he's just

got to be smarter. These teams that are they're they're very, very good at embellishing and flopping

and all the other stuff. It's they're hard to play against and there's a team in our league that

we were very confident going into the game because we're like, look, they're not floppers at all. They're

physical, but they don't flop. The teams that are hard to play against are the ones that hit you

and then they wait on you to hit them back and then they're ready to take a splatter.

And so he, you know, we just got to be we got to be smarter knowing that that's the case in certain

games. And so we can't have a die sitting in the first half because of those fouls. If he's going

to block a shot and something happens, we can live with it, but we can't live with those.

Yeah, big stretch in that game. As you said, I wrote it down, told Brian five minutes 12 seconds.

This is the biggest stretch of this ball game right here for this team to be able to hold it down.

And I thought those guys that came off the bench, they really held it down. I mean,

Roddy kind of held his own. I mean, you got Roddy, Garden, Kohler and Kohler's just pretty much

having his way, but we're able to hold that down. Yeah. And we didn't do a great job using our

quickness. We knew every time out, they were coming out and they were trying to pound us inside

with post ups and they were pretty effective overall. I might have looked at the numbers from it

yet, but when we are mismatch, we've got to stop settling behind those guys and be more active

with our feet and force the post touches to be a lot more difficult. We'll see what happens

tomorrow with the the all big 10 teams in the player of the year, but there can't be many guys

who are sitting there 20th in their league in points per game that are, I think, the overwhelming

favorite to be the player of the year. That's where Yaxl Lendaborg sits right now. He leaves the

team, but I think in the two years, you have paved so many proofs of concept. You wanted to show

you could win. You obviously shown what what this team can do with creative front court pieces.

The buying in from afar, when you have an opportunity here to have a player the year finished 20th

in point three. I know that's not the only metric. There are better ways to weigh a player's value,

but it doesn't have to necessarily be scoring with Yaxl. How important is that to show to other

people that hey, if you buy in, you come in, you play well, you can you be a connector like you've

talked about. These types of accolades normally go to the biggest score or the most prolific player

they'll go to you. Yeah, I think it says a number of things that we continue to find the right type

of guys for us and the amount of sacrifice that the Yaxl's made. I mean, Brian Terry, like I'll be

sitting there in a game and I'll be like, man, we got to get Yaxl the ball. And then I'm looking at

myself like, you're the head coach. You have a little bit of say where that ball goes.

So sometimes I have to pitch myself and say, hey, man, why don't you put the ball in Yaxl's

handle a little bit and see what he can do. But we try to play in the flow where everyone's

involved and cutting and moving and playing together. So we want perfect synergy. But sometimes,

man, we just got to get the ball in his hands. And because he's such a good passer, he's so

unselfish, we're probably going to get a better shot. And so it's that that medium of not being in

flow, but also not throwing it and becoming completely static and stagger like it's 1988,

post up NBA bad boys, pistons, basketball. And so it's finding that in between. And Yaxl's

done a good job. I know that that stretch Terry is about five to go is when we started putting

in his hands a lot more. And our shot quality went up immensely. Yes, it did. Can you talk a

little bit about, you know, Rottie's overall, I finally got a smile out of Rottie after the game

when we interviewed him because he's kind of still awake. Don't say a whole lot. And he finally

smiled and said, say, Rottie, there's been a word going around here that you show up in

March. You start playing in March. And I think it came from Yaxx and Yaxx said, you know,

vice versa. Yaxx was like, well, I show up in March too. Yeah. That's that's one thing about both

of those guys. I mean, Rottie's performance and the NCAA tournament last year was we'll go down

and miss you get lower. And I think that's what athletics has been. You know, we showed him the

clip. And our players didn't know what this was. I stole from a friend of mine, the coach at

Texas Tech. He shows it every year. And it's Andy Dufrein when he breaks out of prison when he's

if you guys have seen Shawshank. And it's 500 yards. He's crawling through 500 yards of feces.

And you just keep going and going and going. And you don't know when that fresh water and freedom

is and performance and all this stuff. But you just got to keep going. And Rottie's with

through some stuff where he's probably had to give and sacrifice as much as anyone in our program.

And it's another one of the many reasons that his lock his value in our locker room is as great

as it is. There's not a player over the last two years that I think the rest of the guys are

more comfortable going to and sharing experiences, being vulnerable, talking to because of that sacrifice,

because of what a great guy he is. And man, he's leaving a mark at Michigan. And we talked about it.

Like we have super teammates. And in that Rottie Gale and Nemori and Will and these guys, I mean,

that's that's the legacy they're leaving. Man, they've they've impacted those below them because

they've changed the way they they act on a daily basis. They're behaviors and very, very happy

for Rottie to perform statistically in the moment like he did last night. Once again, you're playing

your rival at home. We're trying to, you know, they've been the they've been a big part of who

the big 10 goes through for a number of years. And for Rottie to play like that for him to get

to the rim for him to make the plays he's making. Man, very, very happy for him and his family because

he's he's got some he's got some good ball in front of him. Yeah. Well, I'd let him know right

away. I'm team Roddy. You know, don't worry about the outside noise. I'm seeing no secret agent.

I'm team. I'm team Roddy all the way. He beat that case last year. He told us all. Yeah, you

right. I'm team Roddy all the way. And he said he beat the case, which is great. We're with Dusty

May. We'll talk about the big 10 tournament, which starts for the Wolverines on Friday.

After a triple buy. Yes, that exists. This is Michigan basketball from Lairfield.

Wolverines getting ready for the big 10 tournament. A quarter final matchup coming up on Friday.

We'll take the air at 11 30 Eastern on Friday morning on many of these same stations.

Head coach Dusty May with us. We got Kim Barnes Rico joining in a little bit less than 10

minutes here on the show. Anything you gleaned about the big 10 tournament in particular last year.

You've been a part of conference tournaments for a while, but how it was structured, how much success

you guys had it and also a different spot in the bracket. You got a quicker turnaround being

the night game versus having the first game of the day. Every game you guys keep advancing.

Any lessons glean from last year? You're applying for this one. Well, I like the

spacing much better this year is the one seed to have the 24 hours in between each game.

Pretty, I mean, at least 24 hours between each game. The thing we learned was that you're going

to have to be equipped to play in a number of different ways. When you look back, we played really

well against Purdue and we took some of the things we'd done against them in game two and did them

better and we started to get our rhythm and we looked fresh and then we played Maryland and it

was an up and down high score and a fair went down to the very, very millisecond to get out there

with a win and it was some unbelievable individual performances. I still think that Derek Queen game was

he did some things that we may, you know, we rarely see as coaches and competitors and then you

get into the championship game and neither team can find any rhythm and you're playing three games

in three days. So then you have to find a way to win a mud wrestling contest and we found a way

to do that and I think that gets you ready for the tournament that we don't know even yesterday.

We didn't know what that game was going to look like. We had an idea that it was going to be

that physical but you never know the fish eating cruiser different. There's their circumstances

and so you'd never know how it is but you better be ready to pivot and win a game a certain way

and have players on board with whatever we have to do this particular game and we thought it would

be like this and it's not so now it has to be like this. So we got to find a way to do it like that

and so that's what we learned to do it in three games in three days will make us better if we can

figure out a way. Yeah coach just kind of looking back on last night's game and sounds like doing

your pressure is like you've already broke down the Michigan State game but maybe you went home

and put it on. What's your schedule like after all that celebration and everything that went on?

How much sleep are you getting these days? Oh Terry not enough. Actually I've told people that

because of our team this year I've slept better than I they got ever have as a head coach man.

That's what they do correlates. They're really really good players that are dependable, reliable

and and head coaches sleeping patterns. I think that should be a sleep study.

If I do I recall this correctly. I think we talked before the championship game of the big 10

term at last year and you said you you slept from 11 p.m. to 2 a.m. before that game. Do you recall?

I don't know what I know what this was between Maryland and Wisconsin last year's big 10 where you

said I had to get some sleep so I I set an alarm for two. I kind of chuckle them like dang that's

impressive that you kind of got to figure it out in March though don't you? You do and usually you

can do that a couple days in a row and then the third day you're probably gonna crash and sleep seven

or eight. Your body kind of tells you but we were laughing as a staff last night that typically the

day the season's over your body you just shuts down on you and you have all your aches and elements but

when you're in the fight your body knows there's no time for this like you've got to you've got to

get what needs to be done done and yeah like I've always been able to to get up early I love the

mornings getting up and getting after it I don't like the nights as well so there are times when

all even you know as a college I I sleep from eight to midnight and get up and write a paper at

midnight okay because I was motivated by a sense of urgency that's how my brain works anyway

because about 8 p.m. I'm mush and you're not getting anything out of me so no kid up so something

that's interesting with with watching your assistant coaching staff the support staff scout

is that multiple fingerprints are on it with four potential opponents for Friday how do you

structure stagger the week of assignments and I assume it changes as you get more information

with a game tomorrow that could dictate who you might face on Friday. Well Brian two parts if I

could the first is that's another reason I sleep well at night because I know the staff if I'm

missing something they've got it covered and and they make my life easier every single day because

they're really good at their jobs and when it comes to the scouting I don't know because they're

going to figure it out that we know we have our set scouting schedule and they decide based on who

they want to study who they've done what had the had in the past if they've struggled against the

team they'll they'll give it off to somebody else and get a different perspective and then so I

just ask a who has the scout offensive defense and then if if someone happens to have a couple

consecutive then they'll just give one up or they'll just prepare that coach the best they could

based on that information so those guys once again the I've always said it the head coach has

get a much too credit when things are going well and you know we'll take the blame when things

aren't but the staff the way they work together is very very similar to how well our players work

together. Yeah coach what came into the decision making of having the celebration after the game

as opposed to before the game and I asked that because it's like it's almost like it's added

pressure because if you don't win that game what kind of celebration is it you know it's kind of

well Terry two things yeah our temperature doesn't change if we would have lost that game we would

have been disappointed but that doesn't take away that banner that those guys hung and the imprint

that our players left on a program and managers so so once again the we try not we try to be

process oriented where it's not just the results are going to cause us to melt down or we would have

been disappointed it would have been tougher but we just felt like the game was the most important

thing even more to ask hey if we can get a banner made in time do you want to you want to drop it

from Michigan State and I said as long as it's after the game I want us focused on playing basketball

for 40 minutes and then after that I don't care I'd love to do a ceremony I want to see our guys

but just the fact like everything becomes so much and you're you're giving your emotional energy

to something that doesn't help you win then we just we just didn't think it was the right way to do

it it's a sacrifice for our fans to stick around a little bit longer and things like that but we

just felt like last year there was so much put into the Michigan State game other than the actual

game that we didn't perform well lastly were you able to be present in all of it I know you're so

moving forward next thing but after the game celebration did you feel like you're able to be present

briefly no not really okay fair enough we'll coach appreciate thanks guys I appreciate it

there's Dosty May we'll come back with Kim Barnes Rico as we continue this is inside Michigan

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now we flip over to the women's side and catch up with head coach Kim Barnes Rico here on

inside Michigan basketball and to bridge the gap coach i want to talk about your son Trevor

now a big ten champion we had a chance to catch up Trevor and i did on thursday out in Iowa

and he was talking about how much fun he's having how much he's really sunk into this and

and then you see him sunday cutting down a piece of net confetti falling what has it been like for you

uh to be able to watch this experience and i know you can't be at every game obviously but

but Trevor such a key part is a grad manager with the program and boy the win percentage is going

to be tough to maintain over the course of his course of his coaching career he's he doesn't know

well i mean i think he does know how fortunate he is but to be around an incredible program like he

is and to win a big ten championship in his first year of coaching um how lucky is he but you know

we we returned yesterday and um i went right from my drive back straight to the lacrosse fields

because mo was playing against a ranked opponent in Colorado and she had a great win and then i

went home and i came here later but i didn't go down um to the court oh my watch the game and i

sent trevitax are you still here and he came in he's like mama i didn't tell you about today but

i got to go up on the ladder and cut down the net and i'm like buddy i'm your mom you're

supposed to let me know this stuff i would have been down there like a mom all i said at Emma's

game was i'm here today as Emma's mom i'm not here um as a coach and you know i would have been

down there as Trevor's mom um and not a coach so i didn't i didn't get to really celebrate that

moment with him but just to see his face when he walked in the office last night after the ceremonies

and you know how happy he was and how truly truly grateful he is for dusty and to be a part of

this special program and all the players in the program and and what an incredible moment so

he's been around basketball for a really long time and i think he understands what this moment

means yeah has Trevor had that conversation with you from coming from player to coach of saying

hey i want to continue to do this or i didn't know that much went into it because a reason

i asked that because as a player i just showed up you know the coaches would have all the stuff

ready you follow the script you don't know what goes on behind the scenes he had no idea and he grew

up in a house where i was always on the go um but it's such a change and even our former players

that get into it are like oh my gosh we didn't realize that you do this this this this and we also

didn't realize how much it like affects your insides and your outsides and you lose sleep and you

think about this constantly and your mind is always turning and he's like oh my gosh mom i had no

idea i'm like yeah um after stressful games after stressful practices he's like how do you go

to sleep on like you really don't and your mind is turning all the time um but last year when he

first got into it he stayed in Boston last summer and and coached with a couple teams there and

he called me up he's like i love this i was like oh boy oh boy um and uh he just loved working with

the kids and watching players get better and players that are really passionate and driven about it

and then you know this experience with our men's team and the year that they're having i mean

they might be one of the best teams to ever play the game you know this team is really really special

and he's around just such great coaches and and Dusty's obviously tremendous but his staff and

just the people he gets to be around every single day and and work with and learn from and then

the players some of the greatest in the game right now um it's just been an incredible experience

but i think he he truly loves it but he sees there's a whole other side to it Terry that you don't

know until you're immersed in it yeah well he came in at the right time on a all-time high and i don't

know he might have a different change of mind once you kind of ifs and flows you know you get on

that low point yes you start out and your team is eating 20 yes like i don't really know if i

want to do this anymore yeah yeah it's really different he's very fortunate um where he is but

you know he's young in this business and he's learning from the best but you know in this business

at that age he can be anywhere in a couple years if and he could be on an eight and 20 team he could

be in Idaho who knows where this game will take him but you know that's part of figuring it out

and that's part of really growing in it some days you're going to have great days and some years

you're going to have great teams and some years you're going to have teams that aren't great and

you know it's still you have to figure out how to coach them and and be the same all the time and

watch people get better and and see them improve so i'm excited to see where this journey will

take him for sure it's been so awesome watching in both programs here at Michigan how there is

trying to cultivate the next whether it's assistant coach or head coach you mentioned you know

players who become coaches tell you i didn't realize this all went into with coach roush for

example yes why is it important for you to create in your program that type of learning environment

a lot of it is biosmosis and experiencing it but but i also know you are hands on with your

assistants with the managers with grad assistants with players who might want to do this to try to

help them when when you got a lot of other things going on yeah a long time ago one of my mentors told

me you know what do you want your legacy to be and this was a long time ago and obviously as a

coach you want to win and you want to hang banners and you want to impact young women and that's like

at the top of you know my my goals but also i had to reflect because early on in my career i was

i would i would always get so upset about an assistant coach moving on i feel like darn they're

leaving here i am teaching them and grooming them and you know that they're leaving and we're

building something and why are they not staying here and i had to you know obviously reflect on

you know they're like our players they want they they aspire to be head coaches and they aspire

to move up in the profession and they aspire to have their own teams and um you know i i had to

learn that and then that had to become really you know that became really really important to me as

you know i want my assistant coaches to reach their dreams i want it for our players but i want

it for our assistant coaches as well and i if they want to be a head coach you know i want to

help them get there if they want to be a top assistant i want to help them get there if they want

to be working the WNBA i want to help them get there and i think that's like really important for

me and when young women come into this profession i also want them i think it's really important because

we lose a lot of women because they don't believe that they can have it all they don't believe that

they can have a family they can raise children they can do all these things and still coach at the

highest level with the amount of energy and the amount of time that it takes and i want them to

say no you can do it you can do it sometimes it's challenging you need a team of people around you

that are going to support you and help you and help you take care of your family when when you're

working but i don't want them to feel like they can't do it and they leave the profession so i

think it's really important for me to set that example and then for me to show them that you know

they definitely can do it and pour into them so they believe that they can do it great words of

wisdom there from head coach kim marjorieco will talk about the big ten tournament look ahead to the

week getting ready for the nca's as we continue here on inside michigan basketball from lear field

michigan women's basketball goes one and one in indianapolis at the big ten tournament

gearing up for the nca tournament will learn if and when michigan will host coming up on saturday

and then of course the nca brack reveal sunday night coach just overall takeaways from the big

ten tournament experience a win over organ and then a loss to iowa yeah i mean it was great for us to

play in tournament play you know we still i have to remind myself quite often we still have such a

young team and these experiences are totally different than they've ever been in before and this

year we had an into the big ten tournament with a double buy which was a different experience and

getting to watch the teams play that we could potentially play um and then playing in a 9 p.m.

game on friday night was completely different and then after playing in that 9 p.m. then you got

to turn around get back to the hotel at midnight and you play the next day at 4.30 i'm just

experiencing that um in the back-to-back play so i think all of those are great those are great

opportunities for us to play in tournament play um and get ready for the nca tournament um we did

tremendous job first night against organ i'm really played well we're was really happy with our

performance and then you know for three quarters we did a great job against iowa and then

they you know obviously had a great fourth quarter and and we weren't successful in that game so

bummed about that um you know thought it gave us a neutral court rematch with iowa but you know

need to regroup and need to you know now take advantage of the opportunity for us to work on us

for the next you know week and a half before we get ready for the nca tournament.

yeah coach i know you've been through the gauntlet of the big 10 kind of your overall

uh assessment of what you see in comment or did you see it coming the iowa you see a lay game

i mean did you see that coming uh no and i couldn't bring myself to watch the territory now

i was at the lacrosse game yesterday afternoon and uh then after that i was on on a walk with

my dog on the golf course enjoying the beautiful mishkid day.

what one or someone had the text you.

oh i got a lot of text i got a lot of text.

are you kidding me?

yes um from everyone of my children down from every family member to you know our our coaches

to everyone yes i got a bunch of text messages um you know i i would like to think you know

maybe i was worn down for the night before um you know i i think when you play those

late games and then you have to turn around and go earlier and earlier every day it's kind

of interesting how we do it i don't know if you guys are the same you know there are a lot of

questions i have to why things go that way and i'm probably going to ask about our meetings

just so i could be more educated um and you know i guess you know it's to protect the higher

seeds i i i see that for sure um but i um usually it's a great team they have what

usually has and what makes them special is you know an all-american arguably the best player

in the country in loren bats but then around her is the experience it's fifth year and six

year kids reminds me a little bit of you know our men's team um you can't take there's no

substitute for experience there's no substitute for being in those positions and for having

500 practices 600 practices under your belt when you get to tournament play um and i know that

UCLA leans into that with their team um iowa has experience at some spots and at other spots

you know they're younger and um probably we're a little bit more worn down i i would say probably

but they are two great teams that i think are gonna you know wreak havoc in the nca tournament

yeah because i know we talked about some of your assistants moving on and i'd like to know if

you've ever seen one of your assistants move on why you watched them coach did they've taken some

of your coaching skills plays or something where you watched and say oh so you just stole my play

oh yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure um you know it's funny i i have so many assistants now that are

head coaches a former assistants former players that are head coaches around the country a lot of

them now and it's so much fun to watch them because i'm like oh yeah that's that that's that that's

that or you know sometimes we'll go to practice and they'll be doing all these drills and i'm like

oh i remember that and we'll catch up on the phone and we'll talk about different things and

you know now it's fun because i can pick their brain on different stuff or what do you do against this

or you know give me give me something new or something fresh and you know so many so many of my um

you know like i said former players former assistants are doing such a tremendous job out there

it's been great to watch them so we i know we ask you this most of the time here at this stage where

you go from the grind of you know at least two games a week into now this unique week where

conference tournament is over get into the nca's next week so how has your approach to this week

evolved over the years and and you feel like it's a pretty steady uh schedule and and delineation

or do you have to evolve it to the team the circumstance well i think as a coach you're always

evolving and we talk about that you know i talk about that a lot with my young assistants with the

changing landscape of college athletics with the changing landscape of college basketball um you're

always trying to grow you're always trying to evolve and you're always trying to learn from people

that have one championship so it's always picking the brain of the great ones to see how they do

things and continuing to grow i think is really important um but we kind of have a normal routine i

think you know these next few days are gonna be super fun for me because it's almost like the

preseason once again and i love this time and you know in practice traditionally we have amazing

blue team and you know the the maze team is usually our starters and the blue team is usually our

second group this week gives me an opportunity to mix up those maze and blue and to compete and to

go against each other and it's and it's real fun you know for different people to step up and

and to show their growth and and to um you know compete and it's fun for me to watch to see how

people have developed and kind of where we are from 1 to 14 so that's fun and then you know

later in the week we get back to you know our traditional preparing and getting better and

you know coming off a loss you know you're never happy coming off a loss but i think it really gives

you a great opportunity to reflect and say okay heading into the tournament where do we really

need to get better and what can we really focus and improve on and you know the tail end of that

week we'll give us an opportunity to be laser focused on that as well yeah well coach you talk

about sharing information and ideals with some of your former assistants uh i remember there was a

time where that didn't happen at all where you used to have to get someone in your conference

to send you a tape because you played a particular team they don't do that anymore do they

no those days and sometimes Terry you would have to get in the car and drive the tape like to

meet somebody somewhere and pick up the tape i mean yeah I know we both look really good but we're

sharing our age now everything to everyone is all over i mean you can get it at your fingertips

immediately after and the analytics and the numbers and this that and the third i mean you

can get whatever you want instantaneously it's like these kids with their social media um so times

are certainly different yeah you'd have to like be like how quickly can i get that if it goes

in the mail it's going to take this long if i can drive there i can get it tonight exactly that's

all it used to be because i mean the big team used to call up a uh another opponent and say you

guys played them then can you send me that take yeah i don't think to help you out like that yeah

what percentage of big ten coaches would would help you these days i'm not asking for specifics but

do you think most big ten teams if you were to call it say hey you played insert team here we're

going to see in the tournament is that it's still a high percentage i think so okay good i think

i would like to think so i mean i don't know we don't really have to do it but sometimes i mean

it doesn't help to have a great service are you one of them though i would help okay i would help

i would help all you big ten coaches listening feel free feel free now at a conference is a little

sticky and we don't want to share our conference to people at a conference and i think we do protect

our conference like that um like i wouldn't want to share of some random person call me and ask

me for you know use UCLA stuff i i think i would really like like a golden rule amongst uh yes i

mean okay until you go until you get a next year and you're like gosh this big ten is hard i

should have probably helped this it's been their family they're extended extended family but

they're family sometimes you can get irritated with fans yes yes before we let you go do you have

the sunday selection show plan yet how does that evolve over the next few days yeah i mean i

haven't even talked to our director of operations seems very busy these days i think it's that's time

of years i haven't really caught up with her yet um she really helps to organize that and plan that

you know i probably said this on your show through the years you know our last big events was

at revel in roll when we got the snub and we invited who's who of um and arbor michigan

the university and uh i'm still in recovery mode off of that that was quite some time again

we fixed all of that yeah we fixed all that going forward so yeah so we've done it at my house

since that time i would imagine um the tradition may stick unless our players want to do something

different you know like i said i'm always trying to evolve and grow and learn and if something really

you know touches them and they feel it's important you know well definitely explore that this year

though will be different for us um saturday they have a reveal so that's a little bit different to

women's basketball them men's basketball and the top 16 teams find out if they're going to host

and uh that's something that you know i'm going to be glued to on on saturday and uh you know

can be really really really exciting and a wonderful opportunity we were able to host once

in program history and we advanced when we had the opportunity to host and it was a special

weekend in in an arbor um so for all you listeners if we do have that uh opportunity it's wonderful

it's incredible it's incredible for for the university michigan it's incredible for our team and

if if you're in a surrounding state and you can drive here and support that you know support

women's basketball at the highest level it would be as it would be special for us so everyone come

on out if that if that comes true yeah well if that comes true coach i'm a lean on you for a couple

tickets because i'd like to come to come to come to my game in person yes that would be sweet

we are we are rooting for dusty and and company to have a busy thursday saturday

yeah their tournaments so that we can get back further because i was there at the the villanova

game right round two yes yes now it's truly one of the coolest experiences it was weird to see

Chrysler in a little bit of a different sia tournament style uh but you guys will both say if

i will say when michigan is in that top 16 and i think pretty high up on it can't wait to to see

that experience coach congratulations on a great lead up to the nca tournament and we look

forward to previewing those matchups coming up here next week thank you guys go blue

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