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Hello everybody and welcome back to the P1 Podcast with Matt and Tommy,

Japanese Grand Prix Friday. Let's talk about it. We've had some news, we've had some things going

on in the world of Formula One in the lead up to this and also some things to discuss now that

we've seen the cars around the legendary Suzuki Circuit. Tommy, you have literally just got back

from holiday. You don't look tired at all. Last time it was me that was in trouble. I'm still a

little bit in trouble, but I'm getting there. It's you now in trouble, Tommy, but with jet lag this

time. It's not even jet lag, it's just jet lag. It's just jet lag. It's just that classic like

being on an airplane with aircon and everyone coughing and, you know, good times. But we'll make it

through. All right, stay away from me. Don't transmit it through the microphone please. That would

be good. Right now, so some things to talk about. First and foremost, before we get into it,

let's absorb and enjoy every single second of content that we bring out and talk about with

Formula One and try not to complain too much because F1's going away for a month. There is no

F1 in April, which makes me feel very upset. But of course, you know, there are reasons for that

that make absolute sense as to why we've not got two races in April. So yeah, let's just try and

enjoy Japan as much as we can before we head into almost the length of the off season it feels like

in April. So at the first thing to talk about because we mentioned, didn't we previously coming

into Suzuka that there might be some adjustments and changes to do with the battery, the wonderful thing.

Let's talk complain about it. And then immediately three seconds later to talk about you in

super clipping. At least I said, let's try not to. And that's now out the window after 10 seconds.

But the FIA, you know, they've heard, they've listened to the F1 teams and perhaps the fans

and made a small adjustment to the maximum energy recharge from nine megajoules to eight

megajoules for qualifying, essentially taking away a slight bit of the reliance of the battery,

which in turn is supposed to give slightly higher speeds towards the end of the straights.

We've seen Friday running. Yeah. And what was nine megajoules going to be like, that's

what I'm going to ask. Yeah, my thoughts exactly. It's obviously this was one of the worst

circuits for it, we're early in the season as well, we're just trying to work everything out. So

they've tried to do something to kind of save qualifying because that's been the big thing that

we're all kind of upset about. No, we, I feel like the start of the season is going to be very

similar in the fact that we get after qualifying, we go, oh, that was rubbish and annoying,

they're super clipping, they're easing off, it doesn't feel like qualifying. And then we have

these brilliant races and that's everything that's happened so far. And they've tried to kind of

rectify that with this whole, you know, not making them harvest as much. But we have still seen

an insane amount of super clipping. I mean, 130R is one of the best corners in Formula One,

the whole calendar and my word that it is literally like, you've run out of petrol or something

and you're just slowly, slowly, slowly losing speed into the chicane. And I know it's only

practiced, but I saw an on board with max and that was about 50 KBHL from essentially the top speed.

And we used to them flying through 130R, you know, flat out. Charlotte Claire adjusting his mirror

with one hand famously going around that corner and Alonso's amazing pass on Tue Mac and all

those amazing moments, you're one 130R, but yeah, it's a shame, isn't it? It's a big shame, you know,

downshifting, of course, as well, which is always lovely to hear. Try not to complain, not to complain.

So they made the changes, ish, a tiny change, you know, a minuscule change, which

as not for me, I've not seen anything visibly different to the last two races that we've seen

if anything, it's even worse because 130R is such an iconic corner and it is, I know it was easy

before, like last year, of course, they would take it flat, you know, a little bit of a turn of the

wheel, easy stuff. Now it feels like you could get out and walk around it at exactly the same speed.

And that's, of course, what they're trying to help with, but surely everybody knew that that

this is more trying to save their blushes as much as possible rather than this is a fix,

because it's not going to be a fix until something much more drastic happens. So,

look, Saturday is a problem, we know that Sunday has been entertaining and I hope that it will

continue to be that way. So yes, let's see, let's see how the rest of the weekend goes,

because if we have great Sundays, then perhaps that is the trade-off that we're not used to

to giving, but the trade-off that we have to accept, at least for this year whilst they figure

it out. Okay, let's get into free practice one where the top three were George Russell,

Kimi Antonelli and Lando Norris, an uneventful session, not much to go off the part from

randomly Sergio Perez and Alex Albon having a crash. If you actually watch that, you would be

forgiven for thinking that was Sunday race day, because Alex Albon just dived down the inside

into the last chicane. Perez just does not see him. That right mirror has not been used

heading into that last chicane, because he just turns in and there was a big impact. Albon, of course,

also involved in and off at the Degna II and going into the gravel trap, but fortunately for him

managing to get out. But I think, apart from that, of course Jack Crawford was in the

Aston Martin replacing Fernando Alonzo. I'm sure Alonzo was absolutely devastated to not be in

the Aston Martin before the spring break as they're calling it. And we can now officially crown

another daddy of the podcast, Daddy Vowels, but now I mean, I'm sure there are many other

daddies that we don't call daddy, but Daddy Alonzo. I've always called Alonzo Daddy Alonzo anyway.

Yeah, that's different story. Yeah, Fernando, I'm surprised even once

get back in that car. I saw a clip actually of the whole vibrations and stuff, and it seems

like the car. You can even see it on the onboard camera, how much it's vibrating, and it looked

like it's even doing it just being idle on the grid, waiting to do the start. So,

first Fernando Alonzo, I'd probably, he's a racer, and this is why he's a multiple champion

and a racing driver, but why do I want to get back in that car? I don't know. But yeah, he's

congratulations, Fernando, but not congratulations on having to drive the Aston Martin for the rest of

the weekend, because it still looks absolutely horrendous, car to drive, and yeah, probably

hurts even more that, you know, it's at Honda's home track, and I saw Aston Martin for seemingly

the first time it feels like post like a picture where they're kind of sat with a Honda engineer,

and they're kind of like, we're in this together, we can do this because it's maybe a bit

slanderer so far, and there's been comparisons, hasn't there, to the McLaren Honda days and how they

need to be careful to not blow the relationship up within the first two races, because they can turn

it around, we saw that what they did with Red Bull. Exactly, but it's just how much time is that

going to take, and how old will Fernando Alonzo be when that is all sorted? When he's racing as

kid. Now that would be something. Let's head to free practice to the more representative session,

and it's Oscar Piastry fastest ahead of Kimi Antonelli, and George Russell. So once again,

two Mercedes and a McLaren. Now, the big question from people on Patreon, remember Tony

Soprano, are McLaren back? What a Friday in terms of pace. They still have their gremlins,

Lando had some problems today, but in terms of the pace, it feels as though they've finally been

given the final page of the instruction booklet that says how to actually turn it on,

because they look on par with Mercedes around one lap, that they really do, across FP1 and FP2.

Piastry, of course, being fastest in the second session, it's really exciting. It's awesome to

see that McLaren have found something around here. Now, it's not necessarily, doesn't necessarily

mean that it's going to be consistent throughout the season now, but it's a huge step forward

for McLaren. I don't think you could argue, at least obviously it's only Friday running,

but I don't think you could argue that Mercedes have fallen back, because then you look at

the soft tire runs in particular in FP2 for Ferrari to Mercedes, and the gap still seems massive.

I will say that for Ferrari, they looked much better on the mediums when they were doing flying laps,

but as soon as they put on the softs, they couldn't take that step that the Oscar managed to do,

and the Mercedes and of course, Lando was playing a little bit of catch-up.

So, yeah, for me right now, McLaren are right in the hunt, depending on the steps they take

between now and tomorrow, to challenge not just for pole, but perhaps even beyond the podium and

race wins. A good surprise, you might say, McLaren. I was thinking about the predictions,

and I was regretting every... I literally... I was like, Matt, it's true practice to get over

yourself, but I was like, oh my god, and I forgot about your good surprise as well. I've

good surprise Red Bull, they look shocking. They do. I've gone for a Hamilton win, and he's gone,

I don't have any confidence in the car. I'm like, why can't concussion Matt from a few days ago

have cooked, but instead, I think I might be well on for zero points and you're on for about eight.

Yeah, McLaren look very nice indeed, particularly, as you mentioned, on the one lap pace,

and that's going to be important for them, because obviously we've seen them a bit further down

the order at the start. But, look, McLaren has kind of said before in China, but then they ended

up having a double DNS, so they didn't back it up. But in theory, if Mercedes have this big

engine performance, and that's where they're finding a lot of their time, McLaren have that same

engine, and we've said jokes about the instruction manual on how they just need to unlock it.

If this is three races in, and we don't know yet, maybe Mercedes just turned the

wick up in main qualifying in the miles ahead. But, McLaren have a great chance to challenge,

and I think by the end of the season, I wouldn't be surprised if they are a lot closer, maybe even

challenging Mercedes for victories. The problem for McLaren is they've had such horrendous

reliability that are already 80 points behind in the championship. Obviously, Oscar, you know,

great to see him in first place. I just want to see him start a Grand Prix, and I'm sure a lot

of other Australian people are watching wanting to just see him actually race for a change,

because their reliability has been absolutely shocking, but it shows there's pace in the car.

Certainly does. A good Friday for Oscar in particular. Question from P1 Patreon member

Kiran Mega, should Ferrari be concerned by McLaren's pace today? I think so, because I don't know

what they should be more concerned about the gap to Mercedes that maybe you'd hope would be a

bit closer, a track like this. Obviously, we saw in China that Mercedes were gaining

so much time on the straights. Japan doesn't have a huge amount of straights, but it's obviously

very quick corners, and it doesn't seem like Ferrari have that same confidence, particularly

on the soft tyres, Hamilton, who's been very vocal in talking about how much he loves these cars now,

and they're amazing, and he's having the best time ever, and it feels like he's having the

best racing, and he's really enjoying it. And now, saying that he's got very little grip,

something doesn't feel quite right with Ferrari, and the problem for Ferrari is their kind of

secret weapon has been these starts, and how they can get into first. It's not even like a case

of getting into T1 first, because they've got the way they can fire up their turbo with their smaller

turbo quicker. They can get into the lead, and we've seen that a lot, but if they're starting

6th, 5th and 6th, it's going to be a lot harder than when they were 3rd, so obviously to stick to

this. Yeah, and then another prediction in the bag for Tommy of Ferrari not leading that one,

I'm just, I'm with Snowball, and maybe we just, let's just, you win the first three races,

let's reset and then do the other 19. Okay, cool. I did Jake that I might have to get my three

year old daughter Grace to do the next lot of predictions, and for the next, if foreseeable.

Maybe it might have to be if I actually, so this will be tied in quite nicely with the question.

So Ferrari being concerned by McLaren, absolutely. Now, one slight saving grace is that we know

that the chassis side of the Ferrari is very, very good, and a lot of torque already coming into

this weekend, and for the first, I guess, cut off is around the engine regs, and the catchup

that teams can, or engine manufacturers can, can play, they play the little Uno I need help card,

and essentially, I think it's after six races. How many golden mushrooms will have to

Martin get? A lot. But basically how it works on a sort of basic level is that if you're 2%

behind the best engine, you can unlock a little bit more of the cost cap, and you can develop and

improve your engine, 4%, even more so. And the members are that Ferrari believe, obviously they're

going to believe, and I firmly believe as well, that they are at least 2% behind the best engine,

that's where they're losing their performance. So from a present standpoint, yes, concerned,

and I think Ferrari could well very easily slip into the third fastest team, but there are

glimmers of hope with these new regs that teams can catch up, and they can bring updates to their

engine to be able to close that gap, which I think is astronomical for the Mercedes. And it's

interesting, I don't know the exact way that they test this, but I also am sat here going like,

Mercedes have a genuine reason to not show their performance with their car. I've heard

this with their engine, because the more performance they show, the more the teams can catch up.

Now, again, there must be a way in which the FIA can test the engine to its full limits,

regardless, but I'm sure there are very, very clever ways in which that can't happen.

I did see that about, you know, that's a very big loophole that Mercedes could essentially

jump through where they could peg back their performance to look like the teams were a lot closer,

you know, maybe let Ferrari in the lead at the start, for example, and then just be like,

see you later, we're off. And yeah, win the race, and then say, well, look, we're not that far,

far clear. And you know, it's something that we've, if you weren't watching in 2014, you know,

there's this kind of famous theory and probably a very real one that that Mercedes half the time,

we're never using their full engine potential, because one race where Lewis Hamilton and Nico

Rosberg got to race on a safety car restart, they ended up, I think, clearing the entire field by

about seven or eight seconds in a couple of laps, which if that is the case again, and Mercedes

are like picking themselves back, of course, that they're playing that game of the performance and

making it look like, oh, we're not that far ahead. So the other teams don't need it. And then

as soon as that is locked in, they can be like, cool. And because I guess you want to, if these

are the rules to make people catch up, you want to win with the smallest margin possible to stop

teams catching up. And that's the same year where Williams turned up the wick a little bit too much

on them, say, does engine and got pole in Austria. That's that same year, isn't it? But then,

you know, we say that, but it's not based on race time, it's not based on that, it'll be done in

the dinos and everything else. And I'm sure there are ways in which to to to get the maximum

performance out of an engine, but I also wouldn't be surprised if there are little things that can

make sure that they don't go as extreme in those tests. But, you know, that's just purely speculation

and me, and me thinking and coping, I guess, for for arey's sake, if they don't win any races this

year. Next question, people on picture, remember Elaria, are Red Bull in serious trouble given their

performance so far? Yes, yes, they're in massive, massive trouble. It's right now,

in Formula One, there are three top teams, and then there's the midfield, like Red Bull are a mid,

like we've joked about this before, we've joked about all of Max wasn't in Red Bull,

there'd be a midfield car. Well, Max is in Red Bull, and it is still a midfield car. I think

it had just still doing a reasonable job in comparison when you look at the times between

himself and Max, but that doesn't matter when they're fighting the has is the Williams,

Williams, Albert, I know he had a very scruffy Friday with a few different incidents,

but he's up in eighth. And so there are progress being made by other teams, and Red Bull,

who I thought, bringing upgrades to this weekend should be able to take a step forward,

because the idea and the the understanding is that it's not the engine, it's the chassis,

that's the problem, with the car is that there is no, the drivers don't have any confidence,

they're I think Max even said in practice today that he's under steering so much,

we're just going to box, not even going to go for another flying lap. So the car is fundamentally

wrong from an aeroside of things, but seemingly good from an engine side, which is the opposite

for a lot of other teams. Yeah, the opposite to what we thought would happen, and they struggled so

much in the corners in China, they're obviously absolutely wofl, and they're way off the pace,

seemingly here again. We saw a take it with a pinch of salt, but we saw someone in China,

I think a VIP take some photos where the cars were getting weighed, and we saw the likes of,

I think they saw three cars get weighed, they're all very similar, and then the Red Bull was,

I think like 20, 20 kilos heavier than everything else, which 20 kilos heavier when you're trying

to go around the S's at Suzuki is going to feel a lot, and they're really struggling here again,

despite the upgrades. The theory was there that maybe China was just an outlier because Australia,

how do I put it P3? You think, wow, this is a great base for Red Bull, actually very impressive,

to be if they were indeed second best in qualifying, because we thought their engine was going to be

quite poor, and that's why they'd be slower, but yeah, they're well in that midfield,

we've seen the likes of, you know, you're looking where Max is, and he's among like, not just the V

Cubs, which of course have the same engine as him, but Williams and Audi seem to have

stepped up a little bit as well with Hulkenberg in seventh and Albin in eighth. So yeah, it's going to

be struggle town for Max to step in on this weekend, and probably for the foreseeable future,

fun times. And there you go, all right, pretty much done and dusted, would you say, Tommy?

Yeah, just looking up and down the order. Lim Blad's having more problems, once again,

thankfully for him, it's not a sprint weekend, so at least he had some more time to be able to

dial in to Suzuki, because of course, back in China, he only had a literally a handful if that

of laps before he had to go into competitive sessions. So I'm hoping for Lim Blad's sake, he's not

plagued with issues the entire year because he's impressed so far. Yeah, and Audi as well,

another one to mention that continuing their game of only one car seems to be reliable, any given day

or session, because Bautiletto had a bit of a shocker, you know, to only manage to get out,

the garage right near the end, to put in some laps. And yeah, reliability is still seeming to be

quite an issue for a lot of drivers. That's where it's gone. If 22 cars start the race as well,

predictions, championships over. Yeah, Galsley's looking kind of floppy in 14th as well.

That's a very non-flop. I will be very strict. Okay, that is it. Thank you everybody. If

tuning in, we'll see you very soon. Tomorrow, in fact, of course, for all of our watchalongs, as always,

make sure to come and join us on YouTube, Twitch and Dream 11. And we will see you then looking

forward to it. Adios. Good bye. Sweet dreams. Lots of love. Bye. Yeah. Bye.

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