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Hello and welcome into the latest edition of ESPNFC.

Camerie Craig-Virley and Shakker Hislop here in the studio.

Shakker ready to rank some goalkeeping howlers.

It's not been a good week for your goalkeeper's junior now.

Get ready, goalkeeper's union will have a keen eye on what Shakker's got to say today.

We're looking back on what happened between Real Madrid and Manciti both papers going with memorable.

And it absolutely was. They rose to the occasion against Manciti.

It had many questioning where this version of Real Madrid have been all season.

That question was also put to table of court.

I think in the Champions League, there are many more teams that play an open game.

Where we excel because we find more space. We play better.

It's up to us to say, well, we have to do the same in La Liga as we did today.

And then it's also true that in La Liga teams defend a bit deeper against us.

And that's where we struggle.

Trent Alexander-Arnold also said the team seemed to get more motivated for the Champions League.

He said, I think the size of the game, I don't want to say that the other games are less important.

But when there's so many eyes on the game and so much hype, you need to perform as a player.

We're going to welcome Alex Kirkland, Gianna Gaffiata, to you with us.

The headline in Manchester evening news, was it memorable?

It was definitely not, well, memorable in a different way than we could say, because that was the case.

I was listening to a little bit of Gareth Bale on a podcast, driving to work back and forward the last couple of days.

And although we kind of know this, he was talking to some ex players and he did say,

and one of the things he said was, he said, it just thinks change when the Champions League comes along.

It's Real Madrid, whether that's right or wrong.

And he said, it's just, it elevates, it elevates the crowd, it elevates the players.

And I thought that was some of the things he said was quite intriguing.

I should make a decent pun that actually, I think I should be higher.

But even that, even that elevation, we always talk about with the Real Madrid.

We've seen them enough this season.

And last season to say, no, it can't just for the Champions League to motivate you.

Because they've been so bad in some games, but as I said in yesterday's show,

yes, they were motivated, yes, they were elevated, yes, they played a lot better.

A hell of a lot better.

But it takes two to tango.

And that elevation was somewhat, if not more than somewhat helped by a shambolic city performance,

particularly at the back and in the middle of the parks.

I think that's the thing for me.

And while both Trent Alexander Arnold and Tibo Coutoir are absolutely right in what they say,

in terms of we've spoken over the years about Real Madrid and Champions League nights,

and unless we honest, not many, not many teams, I can only think of one team in the world for ball

who will come to the ball and try to play as ridiculous a high line

and be as openly back as Manchester City are.

So to Coutoir's comparison, again, I don't think, I don't think it's a good one on this instance.

Manchester City played right into Real Madrid's strengths.

And to the point that there was no killing in Bappé,

made it all the more ridiculous, because it was just so easy for Real Madrid

and the first goal kind of summed it up, one long ball over the top of a rally.

There was absolutely no cover, acres of space for Valvera to run into.

And that was how the entire game played out.

At no point in Manchester City, try to drop a little deeper,

try to have some numbers to provide some kind of protection.

It was just as a setup, as a tactic goes.

I thought Pep Guardiola got this all wrong and played right into Real Madrid's strengths.

And as a result, you do that, you're a lot of Real Madrid to play to their strengths.

That's what you're going to get every single time.

Yeah, well, but obviously we'll start with the Real Madrid side.

That's the city side of things.

As for Real Madrid, though, it feels like the Champions League beast has awoken.

Once again, we're seeing them in this competition that so often they come alive

in Alex and perhaps a plan today.

Where's this Real Madrid side been all season?

Yeah, and I love that quote from Trent that you read earlier, Kate,

because he says, yes, I don't want to say the other games aren't as important,

but the implication is the other games aren't as important.

The atmosphere, the change in the atmosphere yesterday,

sort of pre-match and then post-match at the Bernabéu was remarkable.

Before the game, it really felt quite flat, I thought.

For a Champions League night, it wasn't a sellout of the Bernabéu.

There was some empty seats.

There was no big T-fo before the game.

It didn't quite have the feeling of one of these Champions League nights

that the Bernabéu reflect on.

It's sort of the lack of confidence in the team, but afterwards,

what a turnaround.

It was kind of elation and a lot of the fans that it felt like,

OK, are we back? Is this the way forward?

I agree. I'm not sure how many lessons we can take from this game

and apply to the rest of the season.

I think a lot of it was quite specific based on the circumstances,

the opposition, the way City played and what Madrid were able to do.

But it's definitely that the biggest result,

the biggest performance of the brief Arbeloa era so far,

which is kind of months, it hasn't been that long.

But without doubt, it's the biggest night of his tenure so far on,

on the biggest stage and the one that matters most to the club and the fans.

It is, but I mean, just before we go to Jan, quickly, just briefly.

It is, but you know, you said...

Parked, caught on you, you said...

The Beast Awakens.

The Beast has a walk and I wouldn't agree with that, really.

You don't think so?

No, I mean, no.

Because that's how bad...

Look at the first goal.

The first goal told you everything you need to know.

There was a left back who wasn't a left back.

And the other set...

The set and half next to him was in midfield.

There must have been 60 yards between two defenders.

So, listen, I'm not taking any away from Madrid,

before any real Madrid...

Madrid haters, no, no, no, no.

An isolation, it was a great result.

An isolation.

But...

I'm sorry, but if that was Bayern Munich,

how they're playing on one or two other teams,

they don't get that.

They don't get it.

So they took advantage.

Big time.

But I don't believe, for one minute,

that they can put a run of consistent performances together,

like that,

unless they play City every week,

which they're not going to do.

So they've got a second leg to get over in Manchester

and it ain't finished,

because City cannot be as bad,

both defensively and going forward.

So there's a lot of work still to be done,

whether that penalty could be huge,

the penalty miss.

So I think it's a bit early on this, you know,

Real Madrid, Champions League, you know,

sort of thing.

Not for the game, but my God,

I know we'll get to City,

but they've played such a huge part.

Let's get to City now.

Before we do hear from Jan,

let's hear from Pep Guardiola himself

on what happened to his side against Real Madrid.

My feeling about how we played

is that we haven't been that bad,

but this decision with a 3-0 defeat

doesn't carry much weight.

Obviously, there's been a lot of talk about the line-up

that was before the game,

and even more so during it.

Are you willing to give an explanation

to the amount of changes

and what you hoped for the game tonight

compared to what happened?

No, no, my changes.

My changes, more changes, was in Newcastle.

So the last games, most of the players played,

I want to be aggressive from outside,

the one against once, especially in January,

was outstanding in the right.

We struggle a little bit more.

Make a movement in behind,

we do it with Antoine, with Nikos,

with that, we arrive many times in that,

to have the sense that we could score a goal

that targets these wingers to try to drop

and people in the middle, in the pockets,

to arrive close to the box,

control to the structure,

the second structure, with experienced players,

fast players behind, that was the idea.

Okay, Jan Agafiorso,

what do you think of how Pep Guardiola

had to explain it there?

Well, it tries to do his best.

He said the same thing many times this is.

I mean, we can talk about,

is it a surprise of Real Madrid,

suddenly looks like a contender

in the Champions League.

We can discuss that,

but it's not surprised that Manchester City

left chances come.

I mean, they're always for all season.

I mean, we have had games,

they've won, they've had some good games in there,

but there is always a chance that they can get a goal in there.

And we talked about it a bit.

You've got a left back,

there's not an educated left back.

You've got a right back,

who's not an educated right back.

And all year we've seen the same thing.

I mean, they've had some games

when Silva has been very good,

coming from his right side, coming inside

and carry that central part of the team.

But that's a moment.

And that's why I don't think they will

can catch Arsenal,

because if you take a one-to-one,

I mean, Arsenal will never lose,

they will never let the opposition have

so many chances against.

And if you see them even at home,

there are games that will be too null up.

You know, well, they can get a goal soon,

and they can get another one.

And when Manchester City,

where has this been,

that never happened,

because they had,

first of all,

better defenders, I think.

They will forget

a cow walker playing on the right side,

whoever played on the left side.

But also central on the park.

You can always keep the ball.

They can control the game.

They don't control games as they used to do.

And they always seem to be capable of conceding.

But ask for your question to Pep.

I think that Pep will think that the first 20 minutes,

they were,

yes, the performance over 90 minutes

went up that good.

But in the first 20 minutes,

they created a chance

that Djoku and Trent Alexander Arnold

wouldn't have made any interviews after the game

if those 20 minutes were going.

Because Djoku had a minute's pocket.

But over 90 minutes,

that was a very bad,

bad resource, of course,

with City,

but not surprisingly,

that they get a game like this.

Because when you play,

players like,

suddenly evolved there to get a hat trick.

I mean, you know,

there are top players

all over the park,

and they won't get punished

in the Premier League as they were now in the Champions League.

I mean,

I think the arrogance of the manager

is sort of oozing out even more

than it has been in his tenure at Manchester City.

You cannot ask him a question

about his lineup as one of the journalists dead

and his eyes are bulging.

No, no.

You're asking me.

Which I think is a rightful question to ask.

He left Rodry,

who's not,

he's not as sharp as he was

because of this long,

almost a year out.

He left him exposed

with Bernadou Selva,

next to him,

who's running about all over the place,

as he does.

And you've got four,

you've got four,

you've,

let's put it in the nutshell.

You've got a very weak back line.

That's your,

that's your nemesis,

that's your Achilles heel

is your back line.

And the arrogance of Man City,

even though Real Madrid has been struggling,

to go to the Bay on the Bay

and play four up front.

And it's not to be,

not expect to be exposed

on a counter,

or from long balls,

is madness.

Doku,

Harland,

who hardly get any service,

and that was a talking point yesterday.

Sure, Jan's got some thoughts on that.

Semenio,

who played almost alongside him,

and Semenio,

who is, you know,

he did okay at Nucaz,

but he's pretty lightweight.

When Semenio's been playing well

in the wider positions,

and did that in the second half,

that's a front four,

with Bernardo Silva,

supporting.

So you're now leaving one player,

who isn't as fit in sharp as he was,

18 months ago,

for reasons that are not really his fault.

He's exposed.

The back line's exposed,

and it's all over the place.

And he's bulging his eyes,

a journalist asking him the question.

Now, he may turn this around.

They might have a blistering night at the Etihad,

and when they might win four or five,

I don't know.

I don't know if that will happen or not.

I think it's unlikely,

I think it's unlikely

that Real Madrid,

when Siti are pushing forward,

will not do the same again.

Because Siti haven't learned the lesson.

If you think about the game earlier in the season,

at the Bernabéa,

when Siti won 21,

it was the same thing.

It was one of the more exciting games

that Real Madrid have played this year,

because even though they lost,

because Siti played so open,

and I thought,

they've learned,

surely they're going to learn the lesson from that,

because the kind of,

in some sense,

got away with it that night.

Surely they've learned the lesson.

It's a knockout in the Champions League.

You can't take those risks,

because you might get punished.

And they did.

And they did.

And I think everybody's right to ask that question,

that you've gone to the Bernabéa,

you've fought playing four up front,

was the right thing to do,

and once again,

and Jan mentioned it,

the full backs.

They had all summer

to not allow Matthias Nunez

or Cushion Office,

it was to play there.

They had all summer to rectify that.

They had all summer to rectify the left back area.

And they buy,

they buy a player from Wolves in it and Erie,

who can't defend.

So lo and behold,

he doesn't play,

and the midfielder has to play there again,

like he has for,

probably 60% of the season.

So when you look at it in that context,

how can a manager of his experience

not think about protecting

that back line,

first and foremost,

away from home,

then let's protect

the vulnerable areas of the team,

let's make sure we're solid,

we'll sucker Real Madrid in,

and then we'll use the pace of

Semenio,

and Docko,

and Haaland to hit them.

But it was completely the other way around.

I can't remember a time,

well, actually,

you could go back to a lot of the Champions League knockout games,

where, for some reason,

at Manchester City,

Guardiola does things,

and his teams do things,

and it's why they've only got won

thus far,

Champions League win this medal,

because they were the favourites on many,

many years,

but they did things as a team,

and either the quarters

or the Semenes

or whatever it was,

and you'd technically go,

what are they doing?

They're just trying to be

overcomplicated,

over clever,

and they got what they deserve,

in fact,

they deserve to get beaten

by more last nights,

they're lucky that

Vinicius Jr never scored the penalty.

But for one of the best coaches

that's ever managed

and coached in the game,

he got it so wrong last night,

and he won't accept it,

he got it so wrong,

it was scary.

For one of the best strikers

in the game right now,

we saw Erling Harland

with only 10 touches

in the 81 minutes

that he played,

what happened to him?

Well, I don't think we can say,

right now,

he's one of the best strikers

in the world,

we have to go that far,

because he's got a spell now,

he twisted his ankle,

he's been out for a while,

he's always had a period

in the season

where he's not been

in that fit or sharp,

as we usually see him.

I mean, in terms of his

touches,

I think that is quite old news

because Erling Harland

never has too many touches,

there was one game

he had 40,

and it was breaking news

all over the world,

and it worked very,

very hard for the team.

But I think that's the problem

with Erling Harland

is also a consequence

of things not working

at Manchester City No,

because they don't make him

look good either.

Let's put it this way,

they don't make each other look well.

I see a lot of individual players

doing things I see

I see wingers

taking too many touches,

we are not only based on

last night's

a game,

we see a team

where they are not

security midfield,

they can't control the games

as we were talking about,

and you're conceding goals

for farm,

they have to hunt results again,

that is not 100%

game for Erling Harland as well.

I think that,

and I'll follow Craig on that,

I think that game

and those players

that Manchester City have got,

I mean, that was made

for a game

come there to make sure

that they don't concede

to goals and just play

on the strength they have

going forward.

I mean, they go some fantastic

counter players there

and they wasn't taking advantage

of at all.

But Erling Harland,

Northern is best for

when I put my Norwegian glasses on,

I won't be the last time

this show.

I think you will relax

and rest till the World Cup.

Alex.

Yeah, look, Harland's record

against, but it isn't good.

Is it?

It hasn't been for a few years now.

It feels like quite often it's

Antonio Rudiger, who's

sort of tasked with dealing

with Harland,

and he quite enjoys that.

He enjoys the physical battle

he gets close to him.

And there were some really

eye-catching images

from the game yesterday,

in which it appeared to be

Arthur Gula,

who was picking up Erling Harland

from set pieces.

And sort of,

this had people scratching

their heads,

but the feeling from Madrid,

so I think, is that from,

you know, set pieces,

corners and free kicks,

Harland isn't necessarily

the biggest threat in that city

team, so that was the explanation

for that.

But yeah, for such a big name player

and a top player,

it's been a few years now.

And, of course, these teams

have met year after year after year,

every time in the knockout stage,

where Harland hasn't really been able

to deliver against Madrid,

and it is quite notable.

Okay, let's get to the goal

keeperside of things here.

I want to ask you about

Tebowl Kortwa's save

on Nico Eurelian,

how good it was in the second half

of this game.

Listen,

Tebowl Kortwa for me

is the best goalkeeper

in the game right now.

And, and this is part

of the reason why.

He, he, this

pass out isn't a great one.

But, you think about Kortwa,

especially for a man of his size,

is his reactions,

how quick they are,

how exact they are.

Often times,

somebody that size

may want to,

to our right arm,

that's it.

He goes with his leg,

mixed, mix it,

incredible.

See, just his reactions,

whether it's with his feet,

whether it's,

it's diving with his hands,

whatever it is,

it's almost second to none.

And again,

coming from one of the biggest

goalkeepers in the game today,

which is why, again,

I say right now,

I don't think there's a better

goalkeeper in the world.

Yeah, obviously,

that was a defining moment

in one side of things, Alex,

because at the time it was,

if City had been able to score,

Kortwa has really

done his part there

to ensure his side

have that big advantage,

going to the Etihad.

Yeah, and it was really interesting.

It was the youngster,

Tiago Pitach, 18 years old,

who gave the ball away

in such a dangerous position.

I think I had a very good game,

Pitach,

it was really good again

at his first start in the

Champions League.

I just had a few minutes

off the bench in this competition

against him,

I figured extremely well,

until that moment,

in a round about the 75th minute,

when he lost the ball,

Kortwa gets him out of trouble.

But what really sort of

caught my eyes,

or was straight after that,

all the round would be players,

as well as congratulating Kortwa,

was straight open to Pitach,

as well,

to pat him on the back,

and pat him on the heads,

and let him know that,

don't worry, keep playing your game,

it's all good.

I mean, he was,

he was brought off by a ball

over shortly afterwards,

but like I say,

one of the big performances

was Kortwa with that save,

but Pitach, despite that,

it was his responsibility,

giving the ball away to create

that chance for city.

I thought he was very encouraging,

and it's been one of the big,

I think, success stories

of the Arbeloa manager

arranged so far,

is his willingness to decide

to use Academy players.

Of course, he was the coach

of the B Team Castilla

before taking this job,

and we've seen it,

not just with Pitach,

he's probably the biggest one,

but there have been a few now where,

when he didn't have to pick

these young players,

and he's picking them ahead

of more senior alternatives,

and so far,

at least, I think it's,

is paying off Arbeloa.

Yeah, absolutely.

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Why I have it as fifth is because

in the greater context of the game,

it didn't really make that much a difference.

I know.

Because it's taught them.

Yeah.

Just.

Yeah.

Right.

It didn't make that big a difference

in what I want to do.

Because it's taught them.

But it never took a long time.

What's he doing here?

Shut up.

Come on.

So, this one,

I just think,

don't remember one,

just kind of doesn't understand,

or I don't know why O'Reilly does as he is.

Don't look quite clearly

under estimates,

Valverde's pace.

No, but why is he dragging his arm away?

Well, he doesn't say the box.

And that's the thing.

Because you go down to that side.

If you keep your arm outstretched,

you make the same.

I don't know if he thought he was going to be

outside of the box.

But he's just,

he's slower than he actually thought.

The Organsson?

Yep.

And why I have this one?

Well,

this,

the game changed on this moment.

Chelsea come back from behind twice

at 2-2.

These aren't the moments to be taking chances.

You are away in the first league of a Champions League game.

Do not take that kind of a chance.

Even if the manager tells you,

I want you passing the ball out of the back every single time.

Who is the top two?

I wonder.

You've got to know the moment.

Oh!

This is a surprise.

No.

Nostalgia Kinsky.

Yeah, this,

this was a tough watch.

This was, this was a tough watch,

I think, for every single goalkeeper.

Young goalkeeper,

getting a chance,

throwing it the deep end quite literally

and really struggled.

Charge number one.

It's a, it's a two for here.

Dead ball,

Kinsky.

It's,

yeah.

Listen.

Listen.

I,

my heart breaks for the young man.

I don't know,

I really don't know

how you bounce back from this.

I'll be all right.

I, I really don't.

I, I, I will say

and while there's no question

there's a,

a goalkeeping errors of both.

Coaching stuff,

I don't think helped her.

So here's some of the reaction

in the English papers

afterwards to Antonin Kinsky's performance

and the display.

It was obviously subbed off after 17 minutes.

That's been heavily criticised.

It's opened some debate as well,

but here it is.

He got two dots speaking about his decision

after the game.

Can you explain what happened

with the, the two goalkeepers,

the first, the she decision

to drop Vicario

and then the second one to drop Kinsky?

No, you have a very rare thing

in, I'm coaching 15 years.

I never do like this thing.

It was necessary to preserve the guy,

preserve the team.

Incredible situation.

Nothing to comment, you will see.

It was before the game

right choose to do,

right choice to do

in the moment like we are

with pressure on Vicario,

another competition,

Tony's very good goalkeeper.

So it was for me right decision

after,

happened this, of course,

it's easy to say

that it was not right decision.

So I explained to Tony also

was speaking after, you know,

his right guy

and good goalkeeper

unfortunately happened

in this big game,

this mistakes.

So we pay this,

this start of the game

was too much for us

in this moment

where we are fragile.

When we are weak,

let's say like that.

All right, Shaka,

what do you make of his

exactly?

It wasn't right decision.

What one?

To start Kyrnski,

as he's saying,

it was the right decision to start him.

It could not have been

if you take him off after 17 minutes.

Those two do not go hand in hand.

Now,

it's the right decision

if you are thinking

I need him in the longer term

for the rest of the season

in terms of our relegation battle

and I need him just to kind of

have this game,

get a game under his belt.

A lot of speculation

kind of leading into the game

about what kind of team

spurs it puts out,

given their relegation

about who understandably won.

I don't know.

It takes a priority.

Maybe that's his thinking.

But if that's your thinking

and you have no faith in Vicario,

then you leave him out there.

You leave him out there

to figure things out.

And which is why I say

I felt he was let down

by the coaching staff.

No,

and why I say

it's heartbreaking

every single goalkeeper

who's played this game

knows how easy

it is to find yourself

in that position.

I will say this.

The goalkeeper,

the goalkeeper coaches

that I had at clubs

at Newcastle

in Terrigano

or West Ham

and Leslie Lee.

After the first goal

where you slip,

they're straight

around the back of the goal,

having a word with me,

bringing up here

and your fresh pear cleats,

something

to give you that outlet.

Now,

maybe I missed it.

A lot of games

going on at the same time,

but I did not see that.

And I did not see somebody

coming around

to reassure him

to have a conversation

with him,

just to make sure

he settles down.

Now,

which is why I say

that's a failure

of the coaching staff.

Whether it's

your goalkeeper

or your tutor

who didn't send him

something had to be done,

something

should have been done

at that very moment.

But you leave him alone

with his thoughts

in a big game

as big a game

as this is in the Champions League.

Of course,

he's just going to deteriorate.

Of course, he's going to spiral.

And then,

your force to know

make a decision

after 17 minutes.

Now, you can say,

well, yeah, clearly,

he spiraled

to a point

where I could not leave him on.

Fine, that's all well

and good.

But that, for me,

could have been preempted.

And a good coaching staff

would have known that,

would have done something

about it.

And at least got him

through to half-time.

At least got him to that point

where you could get back

into the dressing room.

You could have a conversation

whether you're two

or three-down,

you have a conversation

and get him to settle down,

get him to play his game.

And then, that way,

at least you have him

in the long,

say longer term,

between knowing,

and the end of the season.

But I thought it was a failure

of the coaching staff

certainly in that moment.

Well, we're already three-down.

Well, that's...

I mean, I feel...

I feel the left hand on.

He could have been...

Why don't we could have been number five,

number four, number three?

What did I say?

The first goal...

The first goal came after five minutes.

At that point,

if somebody...

If somebody interjects,

if a goalkeeper coach goes round

and has a conversation with him,

you could...

You could get him to settle down.

And maybe,

somehow avoiding the second and the third.

But you allow him to stay out there

with his own thoughts

at 22 years old,

on as big as stages,

as that,

he's going to spiral.

So it gets...

It gets the three at 17 minutes

and at that point,

if there is a right,

this is going to take him off.

But that's what coaching

is about.

Oh, yeah.

It's not just...

It's not just about

picking an eleventh or something.

I've seen people.

I mean, people are...

People are escalating this to...

I'm not talking about you.

But as if

you'll never be able to come out,

you'll have to be locked in a padded room

and you'll never be able to come out.

Again, he can't deal.

I mean, come on.

Come on.

So give me football.

He made mistakes.

You...

You're relatively young guy.

He's not 18.

It was a disastrous night forum.

Of course it was.

Maybe the decisions were all bad.

His decisions were bad.

But come on.

This...

This he'll never...

He'll never recover.

I can't...

I can't have that.

You've got to go away sometimes.

You've got to take these big punch in the faces

in any sport.

And I'm afraid...

We've all had dark moments in careers

and every sports person has.

Pretty much every sports person has

had these really, really dark moments

where you just feel

you've let everybody down.

And you have...

But it's something...

You've got to recover from it.

It's the way of the world.

It's something...

It's...

And Shaka, I know where you're coming from

and I understand your points

what you're doing that you need support.

Every human being needs support.

Not only a goalkeeper.

I mean, I mean, I feel so sorry for the kid.

First, I thought, well, well, don't take him off.

Let him have that.

But after I was thinking his own...

It was not only sitting on a bench.

They took him straight to the dressing room.

He would sit in there.

I felt so sorry like everybody else.

But hey, this is the performance we run.

And I think these analyzes afterwards.

This man will never recover.

I mean, hello.

He did two mistakes in a football game.

I mean, and yes, a goalkeeper is world-woundable.

But we have to stop treating the goalkeepers differently.

There are others.

Oh, then he trusts.

You need to be number one.

You have to know that you're number one.

I need to know that I'm a number one.

Everybody would like to be seen.

Everybody would like to be there.

I mean, the thing is with Spurs at the moment.

You're the number one.

Don't worry.

You're the number one in the region on the show.

But I mean, with Spurs is something the bigger question is.

I mean, why did they play with sneakers?

I mean, this one was for the first minute.

They were falling all over the place.

Not only Kinsky.

They were falling all over the place.

That is one thing.

And Igor Tudor, he comes to a club.

I follow this career.

He had a OK decent job then and again.

But then he comes to Spurs and he managed to kill two goalkeepers

in half a day.

To be cardio now will be insecure going into the Premier League

relegation battle.

Then he kills Kinsky.

And after 17 minutes, he thinks, oh, I'm going to kill him again.

So this is a lot of things going on at the same time.

At Spurs know at the moment.

And we can say it's Spurs.

You can only happen at Spurs.

But wow, there's a lot of things.

And I saw that Tudor was talking to Romero and they agreed.

Maybe we should take him off and all those kind of things.

I mean, that was a sad day for football.

But hey, grow up.

He's 22 years of age.

He can play for another 15 years.

If this kills him, then if you can't get a heat,

if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen or whatever.

He's saying it's.

Yeah, you got it right there in the end.

Alex, you're actually at this game.

And I know you've written about it today.

What did you make of the whole situation?

Yeah, I mean, the pricing in for me in terms of the Kinsky substitution

was the reaction of the crowd because so often in that kind of situation,

you know, players being subbed off early because they've had them there.

You kind of expect the crowd to kind of get stuck in, right?

And cheer and kind of ironically, you know, cheer there.

There we throw.

It wasn't the case.

It felt to me the athletic crowd were genuinely sympathetic to this guy.

And it was, there was some applause, but there was no kind of irony there.

It was, it was, and they sort of whistled actually the substitution,

almost sort of backing Kinsky.

And yeah, within that post-match presser from Igor Tudor as well,

I've got to say I found his whole kind of discourse and what he said

and how he said it just deeply, deeply unimpressive.

And it's no surprise to me that he's not connecting with the,

with the spurs dressing room because if that's how he's talking to the players

and anything like how he's talking to us, I just don't buy it at all.

Like I said, I didn't find it convincing at all.

And so, yeah, it was, it was a dreadful night.

I suppose a brilliant night for Fred Leti.

But like I say, struck me in the mouth from the whole thing

was that kind of, that kind of sympathy from the home crowd

for a player who was having an absolute nightmare.

Well, apparently he's taking the press conference tomorrow, Tudor.

So the-

So the-

Two percent Sean-

Two percent Sean does.

Yeah.

I mean, they're scurrying around looking for an alternative

because it just has not worked.

And as Alex said, he's been unimpressive.

He's made, well, he's made a worse impact than Thomas Frank.

Or anybody else at this moment in time.

It's a shame, really, in a sense that, you know,

what Leti's called five goals.

And also one of the goals at the school was a thing of beauty.

And nobody's really talking about it.

Oh, black makes this great save.

And then the ball gets launched up in the air.

Somehow, I can't remember the mechanics of it, how it all came about.

And then we saw one of the most beautiful touches

from Antoine Griezmann, Inté, Julien Alvarez,

who takes it 60 yards and finishes.

And all those sort of things have been forgotten.

And this sort of ugly goalkeeping sort of performance

in Tottenham and Ego Tudor was that that goal in particular

when the touch of Antoine Griezmann, the finish of the Julien Alvarez,

that they're taking a five-two lead to the Tottenham Hotspur stadium.

And that's a pretty healthy lead to be taken.

Yeah.

Now, don't think Alex will be in that two-door press conference

the next one because he's got a busy weekend ahead.

He's a clever pool.

He's a clever pool.

Good luck to the weekend.

Where are you off to this weekend for us, Alex?

I'll be at the Bernabéu, of course.

I'll be around with you to the L.C. on Saturday.

OK, we look forward to that.

Craig will be on the coverage for that game as well.

Make sure to come in.

Oh, the Madrid here too.

The Madrid against L.C.

The dropped points against L.C. in the reverse fixture this season.

Barcelona take on Sevilla on Sunday.

Both of these games will be available on ESPN+.

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So the goalkeeper battle at Chelsea is on.

And we've got a little comparison here between Robert Sanchez and Philippe Jorgensen.

Goals prevented is one of the stats here.

Don't ask me Craig, but I do think a minus there and negative is probably not a good thing.

I'm the point seven.

I just want to go over there and somehow that goal is prevented.

I want to let boot it out of the start.

What does it mean?

I have no idea. Right.

Okay, here's no idea.

Let's see what Liam Rossini had to say about his decision on starting Jorgensen for the PSG game after the game.

You know, you have a difficult decision with the goalkeepers.

Do you feel you have one that's at a level to compete in this competition?

Yeah.

Deep into it.

Both of them.

They have different qualities.

Rob is an outstanding.

It's a standing from crosses and outstanding shot stopper.

I am trying to win in a short term and win in a long time as well.

I have Philippe has different qualities and one of his qualities which he showed against Aston Villa.

One of the reasons we won for one at Aston Villa, we were so calm in our possession moments which we weren't before.

Not just on Rob, but on the whole team.

That's brilliant, isn't it?

Well, let me just tell you about Rob Sánchez.

He's absolutely brilliant at crosses and shot stopping, but I'm going to drop him.

What do you need to do to play Sánchez and Jorgensen?

The good thing is he's not good.

He doesn't want to number one.

He doesn't want a number one, so that's where he hasn't got one.

He's got two number two's.

Because Rob Sánchez, if you think back to it, and I said this a long time ago,

when Rob Sánchez arrived at Chelsea, he at the time was number two at Brighton to,

I think it was Jason Steele at the time, before for a broken came in.

He was number one for a period, but he had lost his place at Brighton.

And he is right in a sense.

He does make some good, he has a decent shot stopper, but he makes a lot of bad decisions.

And it seems Jorgensen yesterday is culpable for that as well, because it's two two.

You have to make good decisions, and he made a bad decision in that cost and the third,

and then it's sort of folded like a packet of cars.

Who are you picking, Shaka?

I understand the decision to play Jorgensen.

If you want to do that, you want to pass the ball out of the back,

that's your strategy against PSG.

The thing I have, and I can't help but think, is you say to Jorgensen,

we pass the ball out of the back no matter what.

And as a result, every single time you get it, that's what he tries to do,

that's what he tries to do, that's his strength.

But then there are moments.

You have to give the goalkeepers that permission.

That's all I know.

Goals prevented.

Jesus.

Somebody have explained that to us at some point.

Unless you turn around and put it in the back here now.

Surely every saves a goal prevented.

What the hell is this all about?

He's got less errors leading to a goal, but he's prevented negative goals.

I know.

Shaka, another one who's supposed to be able to explain these things.

I can't explain that.

Negative goals prevented.

That means you score in them.

That means you score to come.

Shaka, I finally watch out why I don't normally do those things.

You just wait.

We already just started.

It's not the Europa League or the glamorous Europa conference.

It's goalkeepers.

It's a whole lot of goalkeepers.

I'm up to here with goalkeepers.

Let me finish my thought then on Jorgensen.

You've got to give them authority just to go long from time to time.

And let them understand and read the game.

Because my issue at Jorgensen and the mistake in the game against PSG

is the timing of it.

You come back from behind twice.

You're away to PSG.

Just kill the game for a minute.

So why doesn't he?

I just...

You're sending the manager to...

Can't I go well? I know the answer to this.

Because most of them can't think for themselves.

Well, let me just...

If that were me, I'm going long.

And then take them and just kill the atmosphere in the game.

And if Liam Rossini says to you after the game, why didn't you say

because I wasn't the right decision?

Exactly.

And don't get me wrong.

Manages do ask that of you.

I love the goalkeeper.

Why did he do this?

Because I didn't think that's what the game called for that moment.

Yeah.

We discuss goalkeepers and somehow...

I mean, at one hand...

I don't say Shaka.

Because Shaka is my friend.

I love Shaka.

But all goalkeepers, when they talk...

Sometimes they say they want to be footballers.

So they say, no, forget us.

We're not playing 4-4-2.

We're playing 1-4-4-2.

We need to be on the pitch as well.

And then when it comes to mistakes or think by themselves,

or have two...

Oh, wow.

Danger, danger.

There are two players competing for one place.

That would make the other one so insecure.

Oh, he won't save anything.

Remember Raya came to Arsenal?

I mean, it was nearly a strike in London.

What do you do, Ramster?

It's the best one in the world.

And so on and so on.

Why don't we just...

I...

Resendra...

I love you.

I love that he says,

I don't need the number one.

I play with the one...

I need Beth.

I want...

This is the best goalkeeper I have.

This thing that they have to...

You know, give him 16 games to prove himself.

Give any player 16 games to prove themselves.

This goalkeeper thing,

getting totally out of the hand.

And now they start with goal-prevented EG as well.

I mean...

Yeah, that is a beauty.

And, you know, I'm so with Shaka as well.

Because sometimes we're talking so much about tactics

and the tactic of the coach.

But the main thing on a football pitch

is the individual tactic.

How do you read a game?

What do you do when it's too kneel down?

Too kneel up?

What do you do when it's kneel- kneel?

You're okay with that kneel- kneel.

Do you keep the ball?

Do you try to flick the ball?

You try to get a free kick?

What do you do?

That is the individual tactic.

And Jörgens, if he had in his head

that the...

Oh, my coach, you have to play out from the back.

When they're running at him,

then when they are attacking,

when you have to play the ball long,

well, that's his mistake.

Don't take that.

I don't take that on the coach.

The last two days have been absolutely...

concrete proof that...

The heads lops of this world,

the kinski to this world,

the old blacks of this world,

the Jorgonsons,

the Sanchez,

the Donner rumours,

they all stood at the school

when they were youngsters

and put their hand up and said,

I'm the centre forward,

Mr Headmaster,

and every one of them was given

a pair of gloves and said,

no, you're not.

Get back there.

Ashak, if we ever needed proof,

that they wanted to be the outfield player,

and they couldn't do it,

it's been this Champions League couple of days.

Oh, my goodness.

A lot of that.

Oh, my goodness.

You asked to be up front,

and you were told no.

They're really true, but carry on.

Someone else who has been really mean to a goalkeeper

in this very game was Enzo,

because you talked about that moment

when the pass was intercepted.

Well, Enzo is not happy at all with Jorgonson here,

and he was remonstrating to his goalkeeper

as well.

What did you make of this?

So I likened this to when,

say two players are attacking goal,

and one doesn't pass it to the other,

and everybody's throwing their arms up

and remonstrating.

Jorgonson knows he's made a mistake.

He doesn't need Enzo to point it out.

And similarly,

if we were up at the other end of the pitch,

two strikers and one throwing his arms up near,

because he didn't get a pass he wanted,

or he felt he should have gotten,

like I am skating against that kind of action,

similarly here.

I think Enzo is trying to make a scene

where one really isn't.

And again, from a goalkeeper perspective,

if that were me,

if that were an experience to me,

I am going so hard at Enzo at that point.

Don't throw your arms up and be making a scene.

At my expense,

I am no charging at you.

And let's see how Breviar

wore this bravado through in the ball

and remonstrating.

Jorgonson doesn't need that.

He does not,

and I find that incredibly distasteful.

Bit weak.

In the 90s,

we would have a fight and address.

Absolutely we would.

Absolutely we would.

Absolutely.

Do you remember,

if you want to go on YouTube,

if you don't, don't care,

I don't care, whatever.

I mean,

Marker,

Stephen Mannerman,

and Bruce Grobla,

do you remember when the Melz,

it was a Melz,

a Sam Darby,

and Marker must have said to him to Grobla,

I don't know what happened,

maybe,

can we get Marker on?

One of them,

no chance to answer.

I don't really know.

It saw him went off

and Grobla came out,

and they were, you know,

I don't know if there was a punch thrown,

but it was pretty close to it.

And that's the Shaq's point.

Jorgonson obviously doesn't feel he's got the gravitas

within that dressing room

to do what he should have done there,

which is really getting,

yeah,

Enzo Fernandez's face,

he said,

don't you ever do that to me again?

You know what I mean?

Because what,

how about when you make a mistake,

I can run in several yards

up the field and get in your face.

So,

I think it just shows you where the

picking order is,

a little bit,

but, you know,

Enzo Fernandez himself

is,

at times,

a bit of a distasteful character

on the field.

Yeah.

A lot of dramatic moments

in this game,

one of them was between Pedro Netto

and a ballboy as well.

It's in stoppages here,

as you can see,

he tries to retrieve the ball quickly

for a throw-in.

Ballboy appears to hesitate,

so he shoves him,

he goes backwards

into the,

the boards there.

I thought we were done

with all this ballboy things,

or, you know,

I thought we had the multi-ball system

on the cones

to save this.

Yeah, but,

he's under investigation.

But we have,

we have this multi-ball system now,

in most countries,

where you have these cones

around the perimeter of the field

with, you know,

a few yards.

And the ballboy,

the ballgirls,

the job is to quickly go

and put the ball

in the cone

and move.

And that is to stop,

and whether they didn't have time

to do that,

I don't know.

That is to stop this scenario,

if you remember,

Berleno,

at Bournemouth,

and there have been many other

incidents with,

with youngsters.

However,

multi-ball system will not.

And I get the frustration

as a player.

I understand,

but you can't go shoving

youngsters around

on the side of the field.

No. You just can't do that.

Yeah.

But,

I'm just wondering,

I mean, we're probably

going to discuss more dives today.

Did the ballboy dive?

Because,

the reason I asked,

this is then,

because then,

and I know it's political correct.

And Craig is the nice one.

I can hear that.

But yeah.

And now listen, listen.

Listen, listen.

I was just,

when I saw that straight away,

I mean,

if he's injured a boy,

I fear enough.

But there's a lot of ballboy

holding around,

and to do what the player

didn't do that.

Of course not.

But remember,

when you came here,

you did with the referee

back in the days,

when he played for chef of Wednesday,

and the referee was diving.

I mean,

now,

and if we now have a football player,

if we have a ballboy diving,

as well.

He won't sell it afterwards,

but he gets pushed back with

a dive backwards like that.

He couldn't stay on his feet there, could he?

No,

but was injured.

Was injured.

Yeah, but you can't push.

You can't push.

No, no, no, no.

You can't listen.

It's just a little bit over.

I know.

I cry.

I know you're the kind guy over.

No, I try to be evil.

I'm just saying that there's a lot of thing going on.

I'm 100% sure.

Of course he shouldn't push him out.

I'm just wondering when all that thing was going

because you know the ballboys

that are told to delay the game,

don't give the balls away.

I'm not defending any actually like that, Craig.

I am as kind as you.

I'm just saying.

No, no, no.

Obviously not.

You know, often I say that youngster.

Very often.

But if that was your youngster at a game.

We know that.

No, no, no, no.

Listen, this is where you've got to have some responsibilities.

If that was one of our youngsters at a game.

Absolutely.

You would not be happy if somebody's pushing them over

because it's here for them as a community.

Don't backtrack, Jan.

But that's why this multi-ball system,

which is just the whole thing is just bonkers.

The bottom line is, you cannot...

You cany is this here.

You cany push the youngsters.

And he says he's apologised as well.

So he said that after the fact.

Is he okay today?

Is he okay?

Is he okay?

Just to update us.

Give it to me.

Don't worry.

No, he's okay.

I just asked.

I thought you were being facetious.

No, no, no.

He has been...

Good.

He's got a tongue in cheek.

Okay.

So while you're in this mood,

it's a perfect time, Jan,

you're going to have to worry inverts.

Remember a little bit earlier in the season

when you were telling everybody I told you so

as if he's come good now, and that's it.

And now he's brilliant.

And he's the player that he was in the Bundesliga now

in the Premier League.

Well, Craig was talking about him this week.

No, no, no.

He probably agrees with you.

You got a clip?

Well...

We might have a clip, but we don't.

Oh, no.

Very on-perfect.

No.

Hold on.

Craig likes to push young kids around at Liverpool.

Oh, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, and this is a class...

This is like a back page headline

where the journalist has done all the groundwork

and the sub-editor has put this headline on.

There's nothing to do with the story itself.

Stevie and I were talking about Liverpool's poor performance

and Gal...

away in Eastern Bull against Galatasaray.

And we were discussing Florian Veltz's...

his soft finishes in the game,

the couple of chances it had

that weren't very good.

We were also discussing his ineffectiveness in the game,

and we were also discussing the fact

that Anley Slot played him on the left

when I don't think that's his preferred position now.

I think it's fair to say,

he is definitely not the only one.

But it just looks like...

It looks like this moment in time

is this Liverpool move for him

is going to be tough.

That's how it looks to me.

Well, I agree on based on the Istanbul's game

and against Galatasaray under the two chances he had.

I mean, if you pick one Liverpool player

that you want to be in that situation

to get that ball in the goal,

you would have chosen him

because he is normally very brutal there.

What I see, what I saw in Istanbul...

No, it's not.

It's not what I saw.

I saw a kid in Istanbul with confidence.

I mean, that's what I saw.

There's different reasons for that.

He had a period where he looked better, much better.

I think that in a long term,

this will be a very, very good signing for them.

But at the moment,

as for different players,

we talked about Harlan,

at this moment,

they're not at their best.

And Flora, which is definitely one of them.

I thought at that time,

when I thought he was back,

when he had two or three good, very good games,

this will make him even more confident.

But I didn't see a confident player in Istanbul.

So on that, I agree.

But I think in a long term,

he will be very good for Liverpool.

Do you think...

I'm just going to ask this.

Do you think...

Because I have this lot,

there's no doubt he's under pressure, Jan.

They may not get Champions League football next year.

I don't know what the scenario is going to be for them

at the end of the season.

But clearly, he's not on solid ground.

He can't be if they don't get in the Champions League.

And that's a big question mark at this moment in time.

And they're not going to win the Champions League.

Let's be frank about it, not the way they're defending.

Do you think if Liverpool decided to move on

and it is somebody like Chabi Alonzo coming in,

that we could see a different Florian verse

because Alonzo knows him so well from Liverpool.

And he did such a great job from...

Do you think it could take that kind of evolution

to get the best out of the young lad?

Well, well, it's a good point for Chabi Alonzo

because the two of them are father and son of Liverpool

and had so much success there.

I mean, what I say from Liverpool is that they will kind of stay

with slot and they will keep on coaching there

or be the boss also for the next season.

But I don't think that is the main problem.

I don't think the main problem for Florian wits is slot.

I think there is a lot of a thing going into that.

We sometimes underestimate this thing coming from more or less

from your mom and dad's house, coming to Liverpool, big price tag.

We always say these are machines and they're going in there.

These are human beings, fragile human beings,

going to another country doing his stuff.

So could a new coach make him better?

I'm not sure that is the main problem, Craig, to be honest.

But in terms of Chabi Alonzo, of course,

if you get not the guy who found you,

but the guy who had so much success,

of course, that would be good for him.

But I don't think Anastotis Florian wits a problem.

But to be honest, to be honest, I said this at the top.

Liverpool's issues throughout the team are multiple.

It's not the fact that Florian Wits is sort of up and down.

Most Alas has been dreadful.

Dreadful, since he came back.

And before he left for the Arabian Cup, Abraham Canate,

Van Dyck's not been great, but Canate has been a bismill.

A bismill, I mean, it's like the midfield, my callister,

where he'll cut winner.

He never gives a ball away.

Never. He's so tidy on the ball.

He can't find a red jersey at the moment.

So sometimes we focus on Florian Wits.

You look at the Alexander Rizak signing,

it's been injuries and all sorts,

but there's been so many issues with this Liverpool side.

There's no doubt Florian Wits is short of confidence.

But if you think that's the only problem at Liverpool,

in fact, I think it's one of the only lost problems

when you look at some of the other positions in the team,

starting with the little Egyptian on the right-hand side,

who I think is going to have to be dropped sooner rather than later.

And maybe move, get Florian Wits in this.

We keep talking about it.

Can you play Florian Wits in number 10

and get him floating around, get him doing this?

And he never seems to do it.

He does it now and again, and he's back in the left, he's on the bend.

So it's all a little bit frustrating at the moment.

Speaking of frustrating, let's take it to his former team,

Levacus, and who are up against Arsenal,

and looked as though they were going to get that 1-0 victory,

but for this late penalty that went Arsenal's way,

not in Madoucay earning that penalty.

The ref gave it, didn't he?

Yes.

And Bard didn't get involved because there was men in the contact,

so they didn't want to get involved.

No, so there was protests from the players as well,

and let's see what Casper Hulman had to say about it.

The Levacus and coach, he said,

that was never a penalty.

There was almost no contact at all.

Madoucay himself said,

I don't really know what happened.

I just know I felt contact went down,

and penalty.

The debate is whether there was enough contact here,

then I suppose.

Jan, how did you see it?

You know, yeah.

Yeah.

I just said.

No.

But I would say that it was a penalty,

and it was a clear dive,

and I will explain that.

Because straight away,

I thought it was not even close to a beer penalty,

and I saw that I saw it in slow motion.

I saw the Tillman kind of touch them a bit,

but after that it was a clear dive from Madoucay.

The referee gave it, and as it was said here,

I mean, VIR didn't feel that that was enough to take that away,

but that was a very, very soft thing.

But I have to say also,

if Casper Hulman is the first witness of the defense,

and he just said it was just a bit touch.

That is enough to give a penalty.

Yeah.

There we go.

How do you say it?

Are those a penalty?

Malik Telman catches him with...

He sure is a force.

...with his upper body.

As he's slightly...

He makes a play for the ball, doesn't touch the ball,

doesn't touch the ball, doesn't touch the man with his leg,

but in his follow-through,

catches Madoucay with his upper chest,

as he's going on,

and Madoucay is not unique at all in that regard.

You get contact, you go down.

He was on the ground.

Who?

Who was the player?

Malik Telman.

Malik Telman.

He was on the East Slides.

Slides in.

How can you catch him with his chest?

Catches his ankle with his chest.

Or catches the ankle with his chest.

Catches the ankle with his chest.

No, catches his ankle with his chest.

As he slides in,

and from the time Madoucay gets his face contact,

like any other strike in the world, they go down.

One thing Jan has definitely been right on this season

is Bodo Glimp saying that it's not just a...

Are you suggesting Jan's been wrong a lot?

Just in the show, but a few examples.

It's a great story.

It is amazing.

Look at this 2026.

All of these wins.

The Cinderella story continues, Jan.

And they seem to be the giant slayers as well.

They just keep going.

And there was a big difference last night.

First of all, I managed to make my wife look football with me.

So that was a breaking point for me that I managed to see the game.

But there was something about the performers yesterday

that kind of took them to a new step for me.

Because they were just so convincingly better in sporting.

They were just dominant.

They just went out there,

put their chest out.

And after the game, when they kind of took their round

and celebrated with their fans.

And there was something in their face saying,

well, we knew this will happen.

We knew we're going to win.

A lot of the games this season, they played on the...

on City, on Platon Inter's weaknesses, so on.

But this time, we were just convincingly.

Yes, Sporting had some chances.

And they were efficient to some of the things that Boriglim did.

But I think that this game, I mean,

we would talk a lot about that.

Let's look at it in a way.

Two times winning against Inter.

And so on.

And Manchester City at home.

But this game, they just came out there

and just show the world how good they were.

And just with this self-confidence,

I wasn't a bit afraid of this game.

Because I thought that when they played...

I mean, this is not the class of Inter.

This is not the class of Manchester City.

But they still just managed to roll them over.

The big question, though, is whether Boriglim

have made it into Shackers power rankings?

He doesn't even know.

He doesn't even know.

That's an easy question to answer. Of course they're in Boriglim.

Up one into five.

Bad Munich, I think, I played the best for Boriglim,

but none right now.

I moved Barça ahead of Barça.

I just thought... Barça, who were poor at no castle?

But, yeah, but I also weren't great on the road themselves.

I'm really in. I just thought that result...

The beast is awoken.

The beast is awoken.

And going straight to number four,

I thought of the Champions League week.

That certainly was the big performance, the biggest of the results.

Boriglim continued to amaze as he was just spoken about.

PSG, who lost the Monaco in the lead,

but then responded with that result against Chelsea.

So they're down to electrical Madrid,

just dismantling Spurs, Galatasaray,

a little bit unlucky not to be further ahead against Liverpool.

Porter in Milan in after winning East Milan in after winning the Milan derby.

They get honourable mental.

Why are Porter in?

Porter, top and portrait girls, still going well in Europe league.

He's great.

Then can I ask you?

The power and king.

So it's one of the best bits of all first day.

He loves this.

You should come after the days to be honest.

But Shaka, just a question.

And I just do that.

I mean, does this best of one of the better ranking I've seen you do?

I've seen you maybe I've changed it during the day, but that's another thing.

But...

Change it during the day.

I've done it five minutes before we came back.

The power and the power ranking.

I mean, how can Porter can not be further off?

Please give me an answer on that.

There won't be any games in the Champions League.

There won't be any games in the Champions League.

There are games in the role.

I'm part elitist and...

Maserati.

That would involve thinking.

But...

It's...

They've been outstanding in the Champions League.

There's no question about it.

It's still going well in the Champions League.

There is no league in Europe.

There is no league in Europe.

There's no league in Europe.

You're still going well domestically.

Even though they're not playing.

They've been more than the other day.

Are they outplayed?

Yeah.

They're putting...

Cup game.

There you go.

Hey.

These three guys will be answering our questions in the late edition.

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