Rest In Peace, Gloria Steinem

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2:03and a fierce advocate for feminist causes throughout her life. She was born in Toledo, Ohio, and attended Smith College in the 1950s at a time when she said women were being educated to be mothers and wives. She began her career as a journalist, but later spoke about the frustrations of not being taken seriously when she wanted to write about politics. In her 30s, she joined the editorial board of New York Magazine, and her writing became more political. She credited covering an abortion rights hearing in 1969 for triggering her career as a women's rights activist. At a time when feminism was largely viewed as a white middle-class movement, Steinem didn't shy away from the intersectionality of feminism and racial equality. It's the kind of blue collar working woman who needs these reforms the most, I think. And also poor women and welfare women, but I think it really is going forward on all levels that want.

3:04And it's an important bridge between black women and white women. She co-founded the National Women's Political Caucus in 1971, and a year later co-founded Miss Magazine in response to the lack of journalism produced by and for women. Her activism continued well into her later years. In 2013, she was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Barack Obama for her dedication to advancing civil rights and for changing how women thought about themselves. Four years later, she spoke before thousands as the keynote speaker of the historic women's march on Washington. Just this march in Washington today required a thousand more buses than the entire inauguration. A thousand more. APPLAUSE Steinem went on to say that it was less important that younger people listen to her and more important that they listen to themselves. And that was a report on Gloria Steinem, a true icon.

4:07I want to bring in two women who I think are true icons as well. And that is Monique Pressy, who is an attorney. And as I said, an icon, also Molly Jung Fast, writer, thought leader, whose... I say your mom was the second wave of the women's rights movement. I believe the third phase or maybe the fourth phase or whatever that is. So Molly, why don't we start with you since your mom knew her. They had a relationship and your mom was part of the second wave. And by the way, before I even get to you, I want to thank you because I was watching a report that you did and you mentioned the civil rights movement and how the women's movement in many ways or in large part was based on the civil rights movement. And women like Shirley Chisholm, you said, and Angela Davis, were also part of that and should not be forgotten as well. Yeah, for sure. And actually, I was just rereading a piece that one of the Gloria wrote, which was called... It's from New York Magazine. It's called After Black Power, comma, women's liberation.

5:10So she was very much... She worked with Angela Davis. She understood that you can't have women's rights with that civil rights and that civil rights, women's rights, all of this is inextrable tied to each other. And Shirley Chisholm was just part of this... A big part of how this movement started. So Gloria was... I knew her a little bit too. And she did... And she really did, I think, devote a lot of the end of her life to activism and to... She didn't have children, but we were sort of all her children. And I'm sure that you can speak more to that, but that there was a sense in which this was about... The carrying on this activism, right? The carrying on... Because remember, if we think back to the time that these women started, right, women couldn't have credit cards. They couldn't have...

6:11They're on bank accounts. They couldn't... You can get bank loans without a man signing. A signature of a man is crazy, yeah. Right. So a lot of the same tenants that, you know, that when we fought for civil rights, we fought for with women's rights. A lot of the same, you know, being a person, just like everyone else. And so I do think... And, you know, the kind of equal power to be able to be in the world and have a job and get credit. And so... Gloria was amazing. And I think that she did a lot of work with trying to pass on the power of believing in herself and being able to be an activist and get other women involved in that. And I think that that legacy will go on forever. And she had, you know, in some ways, she had all of these children because she was so focused on other people continuing on the work. Right, right on, Molly. Monique, you knew her. I didn't know her, you know, as a friend,

7:12but I would see her at be at events with her, be on the same podium or same panels with her. And she was always so gracious and welcoming. She never met a stranger. And you actually saw her recently within the last couple of years. Did you have a conversation with her? Shop vans and Albertsons for fresh savings every time you shop. This week at vans and Albertsons get fresh, boneless, skinless chicken breasts for $199 per pound limit 10 pounds. And locally grown grape-ary cotton candy grapes are $299 per pound with digital coupon. Plus 24 packs of Canada Dry or 7-up 12-ounce cans are $499 limit one with digital coupon. Enjoy fresh and delicious savings for every meal. Hurry in, these deals won't last. Visit vans or Albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save. I can't hear you, Monique. Oh, you're muted, Monique. The picture that you all are seeing, and I know, Don, you would recognize some of them your dear friends, like Sonny Hauston, friend to you and to me.

8:14Some you've had on your show like Shannon Watts. I saw so many people, Rhonda Fox, who brought us all together for the persistent movement after she worked on in the Biden Harris administration and worked on the campaign. And Gloria had a talking circle for us, which was one of the things in her later years that she was doing often for all kinds of different groups, whether it was Emerge, I see the head of Emerge, a Shanti go-lar in the picture. I see Karen Khan, Carolyn Pompey, Z Tina Chen. So many people, women who in their own rights have been strong in political and media circles who have been standing up for freedom for democracy and for women's rights. And she was allowing for her home to be a gathering space for us to have candid conversations, not for us to all sit there and agree and be kind of like yes, choruses, but for us to challenge each other and challenge the ways that we were going to show up

9:15for each other and show up for the causes that we cared about. And this was December 24. So many of us were raw with emotion. And in the months following that election, people had worked so very hard. And this was like a first step of us coming and saying where do we go from here? And so I appreciate the times that I was able to interact with her. And so many people say she listened more than she talked. And in those rooms, that is what you would find that she was asking the questions and then listening and then bringing more people to the table and more people after that. And now she is an ancestor and she's carried the baton for as long as she possibly could. And she left a charge for all of us. And I think we all have to figure out whether we're doing enough to answer that call. Molly, the question that everybody else is going to ask,

10:16do you appear on their programs? Do you watch? They'll say, oh, what have we lost? I think we know what we've lost. This is a legend, she's an icon. My question to her, and I think up to you, and I think she would love this question, is what have we gained by having Gloria Steinem be a part of this world? And what should we do moving forward from here? So I think that's a really good question. And I would say one of the really great things that Gloria did was she was really focused on solidarity, on educating, listening, going to different countries, working for women in different places. She sort of came through. She had a very tough childhood. And she was able to push through that. She didn't have a lot of education when she was growing up because her parents didn't move around a lot. But she was able to educate herself

11:17by reading a lot of books. She ended up going to Smith College. And then with Miz, she really did try to elevate all different kinds of voices. And the thing I think that she did, which I think, it's fall in America. Make it count at the Ram Drive-In to Fall Sales event. Make it powerful with our strongest Ram 1500 ever. Make it move with the Ram Heavy Duty with an available Cummins Diesel and make it go the distance with a 10-year or 100,000-mile powertrain limited warranty. Hurry and now for great deals during the Ram Drive-In to Fall Sales event. Excludes fully electric vehicles applied to 2026 model-year vehicles non-transferable, visit MoPAR.com for complete details on a copy of the powertrain limited warranty. Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins Inc. Ram and Hemi are registered trademarks of FCA-US LLC. I think it's what she got a lot of flag for. But I think it was ultimately very important which she went into like really very patriarchal spaces and was able to get in there and advocate for women,

12:20for all different women. And I think that was incredible. She did, I mean, remember her breakthrough writing was this piece about being a playboy body, right? And she used her beauty to get into spaces and expose what was happening. And she got a lot of flag for that. But she was really in allied all different kinds of women, all different, you know, she really went different countries, different groups. And so ultimately she did really do great stuff and she opened the conversation for all of us. And the fact that she supported in her later years, all different activists and women doing different stuff because she knew that you can't do this alone, that we need lawyers and activists and writers and feminists. And you know, we even need, you know, we need, this movement needs to be broad and encompassing.

13:20And it needs to include everyone in order for it to work. So she did all that. And you know, we lost Roby Wade, but these women have gotten us very far and they've done a lot of stuff. And you know, we have, we made some huge progress too. Monique, same question to you. And you know, it's not always true when people say, without such and such, there wouldn't be such and such. Or I wouldn't be here. And I understand the sentiment around that. I think without Gloria Steinem, there would still obviously be a Monique presser here, but your path and your trajectory might be different if it wasn't for Gloria Steinem and women like her. And let's not forget, women's rights are civil rights, right? The two movements, it's not really a separate movement. It's people within the civil rights movement working for their rights. Right. No. And one of the things that I appreciate about Gloria during her life, she understood that there was no single group that benefited more from the civil rights movement

14:23than white women. And so when she was bringing people to the table, she was bridging as Molly just finished saying. She was ensuring that there were black women, brown women, Asian women in the room because she understood that even as we thought that some amongst us as women had advanced further than others. And we were the ones, black folks, who were paying ultimate sacrifices for the gains that were made. And she did not run from that. And we can't run from that. You know, I see a lot of people who called themselves progressive, called themselves civil rights, activists and fighters who don't fully understand the history or aren't willing to acknowledge it. And that's some of what keeps us apart. Gloria was not a part of that. She was one who sat in the history, who lived the history, frankly, and was able to tell the story. And so I think what we have to do now is ensure that our storytellers,

15:24that we take these opportunities. I, when I look back to seeing you that picture, Donna, I looked at my text messages from that day. And I was sharing with all my different girlfriend group chats. You'll never believe. Like I didn't say it beforehand, because you know, you can't say things before they happened. But once it had happened and we put the pictures, I was texting everybody and saying, wasn't on my bingo card for this December, but this is what just happened. This is what I just experienced. This is where we're going from here. And so I think that those of us who share in those types of experiences, we now owe it. You know, I've got a 20 year old daughter. And I'm telling my stories so that she can understand her place in the earth. And that is what Gloria did for us. Thanks for watching everybody. I appreciate you. Make sure you like, subscribe, and turn on notifications so you don't miss anything. We're live weekdays at 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. Eastern

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