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Two teas and a pod with Teddy Melanchamp and Tamra Judge.
Hi guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas and a Pod with myself, Teddy Melanchamp.
And...
Tamra Judge.
Tam.
Yes.
I'm all revved up.
Why?
Because you're getting your ass served to you on Instagram?
I'm getting my ass.
But I want to talk this through for a second.
Really quickly.
Because I want a hypocrisy of it all is just a lot.
Why are you using big words early in the morning?
I don't know, because I'm buying myself.
I don't even have Matt here to yell out to help me with the work.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I'm buying myself.
So we did the interview about PK.
And then Doreet commented on our interview.
Hold on.
She commented and said, sad to see someone who once called me a friend, go this low.
I want to talk about...
Because the main part of this entire reunion is about when your friendships were, right?
She kept saying to Kyle, I don't want to hear about it.
Wait, are you guys friends?
Look, this is what I'm getting at.
Is she one of them that didn't reach out to you when you...
Oh, that's it.
This is exactly what I'm getting at.
Okay.
So she's so offended that I made the whatever ill-fitted joke.
I guess he upset about her plastic surgery.
What was it?
He didn't recognize there because of the surgeries or because she's changed as a human being.
Which is a huge dig.
Which is a big dig.
It's an asshole thing to say.
But then for her to comment on for somebody who once was my friend.
Did she say once was my friend?
Or is my friend?
Once was my friend.
Okay.
Jareed also said in the after show in 2024 that her and I were never really friends.
Okay.
Okay.
So I want to, you know, I don't need to point out all the things that I did for Jareed.
Like the fact that I was with the first one there when our house was burglarized or that like,
I went to all of her kids birthday parties when like, you know, like none of that matters.
But what I will have to say is if you're going to hold somebody to the fire and consider them a good friend or a bad friend versus what they say or what they do.
Jareed is the only one of my used to be friends that did not show up to the hospital for me.
Right.
She did not call me.
She did not do the food train.
Erica was there.
Brenno was there.
You were there.
Kyle was there.
Emily Simpson sent a package like.
Sutton and Denise even reached out.
I don't know if you know this.
If a resident was at the hospital.
Yeah.
I didn't know if you knew because you were out of at the time and she just came and dropped off flowers or food or something.
I can't remember what was and she just walked out and I went.
Was that fake?
Yeah.
So if she can be this upset that somebody, you know, people aren't going to 100% bow down and pretend the way that her behavior this year is appropriate because I think she has been rude to everyone.
Throughout the entire season.
She has.
Yeah, she has been her deviant vocal.
And you see in this episode she's not people talk.
She's been very opinionated and she's been like that pretty much all season long.
And there's always been the comment.
Well, she's going through a lot.
I'm going to use your phrase that you don't like that.
I don't like you to use.
What?
Why is she playing a victim now when it comes to me?
Right, right. Well, I think she's kind of doing that this whole entire season.
Like so now you just want people to jump on me because I made a point that upset you which I get
I 100% get do I think it was something nice to say? No, was that do you want to apologize for your comment? No
Okay, I don't want to apologize for my comment. I want to I hate what Dree's going through that's turned her the way that she is
Which is very angry. You're going through it too Kyle's going through it too. Yeah, I mean we're all going through it in different ways
And for different reasons, you know people are coming at me, you know, Teddy your it's your fault for your reasonings and you know
Maybe it was maybe it wasn't. I don't know. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say that but
I will say you can't go for somebody
jugular and act like they're
Herding you in the time while you're being hurt when you weren't even there when the person that you supposedly were good friends with
Was dying right
Not a peak
Yeah, I get it. I get it
So like this bugs me
And it makes me side with everybody else but her and I don't know if that's being by this is gonna be a great great podcast then because she was
A little unhinged in this. Yeah, she had some good points. Then she had some petty points as well. I can't wait to hear what the good points are
Well, we we start out where
Dree calls that now on wanting to do a deep dive on Amanda. However
She didn't really say she wanted to do a deep dive. She just said she want to do her course
Which I thought was in fun being funny. Okay. That's what I thought too. That's my question. She was do you really think
Sutton was doing a deep dive. I mean the LA time she said the only thing that I was confused and how did she know that
She took out Amanda took out a two million dollar loan
How did she even know that how do you get that information? I don't know. So I feel like somebody probably told her
And she probably got stuck it to somebody but she must have gossiped it to Doree
But that's not on you realize that's not on camera
Right
That's not on camera. So we would say that's a deep dive
I wouldn't say that's a deep I wouldn't say it's a deep dive that somebody says I want to take their course
To see how it actually works or that somebody read the LA times all of us read the LA times
I mean, I read the part until where it wanted me to pay for the LA times and then I had to stop reading because I was like
That's the end of my reading here because I'm not gonna subscribe
I'm glad you pointed that out
Yeah, I didn't necessarily agree, but I felt like Erica's like really you don't do deep dives
Is it that she's the only one on the cast that brings up stuff that she's heard
I think
Erica is the one person that could say that Sutton was doing a deep dive
I think Sutton was pretty well back in the day before Sutton was was drinking wine spritzers and she was drinking her
Her purse vodka's I think she was really doing deep dives on people and I think it was only the the mixer that was in her purse
Whatever
Whatever you got me on a bad day
Oh, this is gonna be fun. We got a rev dip titty revved up. I mean
And do you think it's part of a housewives job to do a deep dive on people?
Um, that was actually a question that I was gonna ask you
Um, I think that we are paid to talk about things that are going on and a lot of times when we are filming
You know stuff is going on and things do come up and people do get sued and people do go through divorces and people and that all goes public
And it we it gets brought up and here we have soft pretending we don't do deep dives on everybody whether we're housewives
They're not I mean think about how deep of the dive we went down on
The
Like we know where he's vacation. I can tell you when this wife passed
I know everything
I can tell you right now
That um, when a new housewife comes into the mix and us girls find out what do we do
We grew up on in yeah, we google we look up on Instagram. Who's joining our group? We we want to know now
Doing a background check which I was accused of doing
I've never paid for a background check google is the best background check that I've ever had
Um
With anybody can use
Um, maybe that's a little bit different if you're gonna go pay somebody to
Get information that's a little much yeah, and I don't think that Sutton even though she is pulling in 300,000
Dollars a month from her ex-husband is doing that. Yeah. I mean, I think
Well, guardless if you're on housewives or not you're looking up shit about other people you just are
It's human nature. It's when we were younger. We did not have access to look everybody up
So we just gossip behind their back here. You just look it up normal
I think it's normal every friend group on TV not on TV if you're I mean, I have friends
They're like oh, I just met this wrong going to a house. What do you do you look at look up the house? Oh
On zillow. Oh, okay, she paid four million dollars for her house. Yeah, I mean you're and then you're like
It's just nosy human nature and it's not because you really care
It's just because this is just like it's effortless to look these things up. Do you care that a man is on chapter six of her book
I don't know how many chapters she's gonna have
But I was slightly confused why Erica asked her if she was in the book
Well, that's a thing and it was so funny and she nonchalantly just went no Erica. You're not in the book
And she's like oh god, oh god
Now I learned something new that a chief marketing officer role is
um
Is
Recognized as having the shortest tenure
So um and he didn't seem to be buying that. No, he didn't seem to be buying it. So I googled it
Okay, I did my deep dive in it your deep dive and what happened
It is widely recognized as having the shortest tenure three and a half to four years
Because you're a fixer right you're fixing into fix something up and then like what are you gonna stay forever?
No, you're gonna fix the next company. Yeah, yeah
So she was she was in line about that
Um, she wasn't lying about that
But then three to sub-set with Kyle for not supporting her business venture her first
And five years
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Then Kyle reads their texts exchanged and read understood
Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that. So I felt that Kyle's
Text their texts exchange was very nice considering this the position they were in at that time
They were not in a good place. No, I think that Kyle text her a few days before was it a few days before a day before
I can't remember I seemed like the day of maybe her daughter was getting married like very soon
Okay, I thought that their text was fine. I thought it was
I didn't think anything was wrong with that Daryl later says that her tone that Kyle misread her tone
Mr. What was that supposed to be a bitchy tone like I don't know
I see my daughter's wedding bitch
Yeah, it just didn't seem like a bitchy tone and then my you know playing devil's advocate here
If you're on a TV show and somebody's having an all-caste party. Do you show up even for 30 minutes?
Do you think that would have been a wiser choice?
Why so you can go and fight with them at their party?
Well their text seemed very
I think Kyle was doing the right thing. She was being nice. Daryl responded the right thing. She was being very nice
But I think once Daryl realized that three of the housewives did not show up to this event. She's got ammunition
She's got ammunition and she's pissed
You know who else's pissed is Amanda because this is my package
Why didn't and please for the love? Why did Rachel need to pretend she didn't know what a package was
What is a package? What is a cum cutter?
Well, I actually didn't know what a cum cutter was. Yeah, but okay correct me if I'm wrong didn't
Erica say in that moment with everybody there
Didn't somebody say what's a cum cutter and she told them? Yes, or was it asked after she asked so she goes
What's a cum cutter and she goes Andy has one? No, no
I mean in scene when she was talking about the statue. Did she say that in and in front of everybody or was it in her
Confessional that she said it. I think I don't remember that part
Because I feel like she I feel like that's where I learned what it was because
She talked about it. Yeah, she may have but you know, it might have been a situation
Yeah, it could have been a situation where she said it and then in her confessional
She explained what it was. I don't know. I can't remember but Kyle
Was when they were fighting to read and Kyle going back and forth
I kind of chucked a little bit when Kyle said to Daryl
I've supported you with your fake act accent and you're Lucy juicy apple
Lucy I
Know but it's also like why she obsessed about the last two years the last two years like yeah
You're all of your friendships have changed because you have changed
So I do think that Daryl had a good point when Kyle kept saying all season long
I'm concerned because you're my friend but then on the couch Kyle changed her tune and said
We haven't been friends for the past two years and Daryl said
Then stop saying we're friends if you feel like we're not friends and stop saying we're friends
I mean, I I do agree with that. I I don't remember hearing
That many times Kyle saying that they were friends more saying she was concerned for her
Yeah, I thought she had said she's concerned because she's a friend and she cares about her
But also then they go into the business ventures and I'm like listen Daryl has had more freaking business ventures
Well, I'll start naming him off
more to
You know Amanda was
Asked to apologize or said you know the fact that she writes her books and seen when Daryl's like oh
Have a ghost writer and she's like oh, I just write my own books. Is that something you have to apologize for?
I think so. Yes, you do. I think the way that she said it
I do agree with Rachel when Rachel said you know, you were being kind of rude
At the beginning of the night when you were like
Ghostwriter like you've never heard of ghostwriter in your life. I'd I think I I feel like it was kind of bragging
Like I can write my own book. Yeah, it was as to one upper and that's what Rachel was saying Rachel's like
It's not nice and
Amanda goes
I didn't know it wasn't nice and and Rachel looks at her like
Really directly and she's like, I know you don't know. That's why I'm telling you. It's not nice. Yeah
You know what I find crazy
That Andy didn't tell say anything to Kathy when she answered
First of all, let's just talk about they go on lunch break
The amount of flowers and stuff Kathy is bringing into her dressing room is over the top
Then she looks at Jennifer Tilly as if she's wearing that outfit. Well, where's your jewelry?
And I'm like
It's
Is this her stick or does she really act like this? I mean, I think she just says these she says these things
But sometimes they're really funny, but like I think she knows what she's doing. She's smart
She's a smart woman. So here's her sister crying getting emotional on the couch
She takes a phone call and nobody even acts like it happened
They're so used to it. Remember when she took a phone call when she was giving Mariska Hargitay her award
Yes, why didn't Andy or like put him on lip gloss? Yeah, but why didn't Andy? I'm waiting for it to pull a turkey sandwich out of her purse anytime soon
Like why didn't Andy call her out? I think Andy didn't call her
I think Andy at this point was so spent between to read and Kyle in that fighting
Yeah, that he was just like like Kathy answered the phone as she wants
This has gone on too long. This will give us a little bit of comic relief
Kathy's jello diet the Michelle Obama Kelly Clarkson Dr. Oz have all done
So I kind of like googled it. There's like a there's a couple of them
And all of them say not nutritious
One is taking jello and mixing it with chicken broth
So the jello keeps you full and the gel and the broth gives you a little bit of protein
Disgusting imagine what that tastes like and this one she put vinegar and baking soda
Isn't that what you make like volcanoes out of as a kid? I don't know
That's what I take like when I have like stomach issues like I have like an elixir of like baking soda and water and like
Okay, my grandfather it's so funny me and Sophia had this conversation yesterday and it because her stomachs were acting up and
She's now been
Has ibs and following her mom's footsteps and I go you know
My grandfather used to have a plastic jug and it had baking soda and water
And he put it right under her seat right next to his vodka and his car
I'm not choking not choking and he would take it out and take a swig of it
Every so often and I'm like I actually I'm gonna try that
My dad drinks an elixir every single time before he goes on for the show
So
But what it does is a kind of vinegar
Scares me because I don't have a side of vinegar because I think that like
Pushes like what they think I have now is the ulcers. Yeah, so
Sophia feels like yeah, so we're trying to like coat them so I'm on a medication of course another medication
Another medication to like coat my stomach because they're worried about it
But also my dad's like do the baking soda with a little bit of sparkling water
I love that it's specific to you. It's like with a little bit of parier
If you don't have parier you can work with another sparkling water and wait, so why the parier the bubbles the bubbles
Huh the mixture burp
Yeah, but if you mix baking soda with something in carbonated
I feel like you're gonna have an explosion you're only doing like this much you're doing like an inch
So what I googled it says do a half it you have to be very careful of baking soda you can't take too much you can do damage
Yeah, so a half a teaspoon of baking soda and one cup of water and you mix it and then just make sure you mix it well
And then drink it and it's supposed to be good for your stomach. I'm gonna try it. It does hope. It does help
um
But yeah, so I I mean I did kind of laugh
Jennifer Tilly not being able to sit down in her gown
Oh that could you think of it? Is she out there the entire rest of the reunion? She I don't think they're gonna send her out now
I mean, but she can't even sit she has to like lean back like this
I know how about Kathy saying like yeah that eye is right there. It's right there
It's right at the spot
Right and I was right in her v card. Oh my right in her com gutters
I don't think women have them well, I don't know um how about you read asking Kyle are you waiting for him to come back?
Oh, yeah
But that kind of rubbed me the wrong way
Like just because I think Andy was saying like what are you waiting for you know with the divorce and all that stuff and um
Are you waiting for him to come back?
I'm glad that Kyle didn't give her the reaction she wanted as this one Rachel chimed in
It's it's beyond like I can't believe how awful it is like I see him three to five times a week
Yeah, he lives a different life. He lives a like
Where is she at the she sees in three times a week?
Aspen. She's always an aspen. Oh does he live there most of time? Nobody goes there a lot there's like a there's like a
A time when everybody goes to Aspen. Oh, yeah, yeah
um
Now when asked about the agency Kyle says top mine
Half mine and I'm like, oh, that was a direct direct statement to your husband
It's I think that any conversation that I've ever had with Mo about like financial things or anything like that
Like being my own self like what I'm going through yeah, he's always been like well, you know you you take care like
Take care of your part. Yeah, yeah, your part. Well, the fact is yeah, he started the business
But he started it on housewives. So I mean
At 30 years of marriage it's 50 50 no matter what
Yeah, but you know, she really did help him start that
Yeah, and you know what? I don't even think she's being a dick about it. She's like, yeah, half is mine
And then of course they dig into Sutton again to find out how much money Sutton's making but how about when Kathy goes does he know that?
I know I'm like she she way to have your back sis
Does he know that? Does he know that?
Um
Because maybe it's not the same for her
Yeah
Who knows she might I don't know anything about Kathy's marriage. I don't know if she has a prenup or not
Yeah
Just delete chiming in it's it's a lot about the you know the relationship and
If she's missing Mo and but there's moments where Dorita seeming like she cares
Yeah
Well, I think it's on both sides I think they both like have moments where I'm on the right side even though you know
I'm just gonna agree because it's correct not because I like you
But and that's good. That's mature thing to do
Know both things that they're better off getting divorced now because they're cordial
And afraid that it's gonna get ugly. I don't do you see it? I don't see it get ugly between them
Well, I don't know people say to me right now. They're like Teddy why?
Why are you and not to turn this around to myself, but I yeah, I'm the only divorce. I know like I really now
Yeah, um, I mean Edwin's downstairs right now working from
My kitchen counter, you know like he he has a place where he lives he comes over when he wants
It's working for us for now
But there has been people and a lawyer that's been like no you should actually
Move forward good move forward um and to be perfectly honest. I'm not ready
Mm-hmm. I'm not ready. I'm not mentally ready. I'm not physically ready. I
I
Don't want to do it. I don't want to go through all that paperwork. I don't want to sign the thing is is like you don't have to
You don't have to I mean we're not fighting operated and who knows maybe you'll get back to get another one day who knows
I mean I had this the soft moment the other day and I don't even know if it was like
Regarding Edwin or just my life in general where I was like I never really thought about my life ever
For a second as being a single mom. Mm-hmm
Yeah, it's a tough job that's I never
It wasn't in the cards for me like I didn't I didn't think like that what is
Real is you're not going to be in that house forever
Yeah, you're going to have your own house one day with your kids there
It's going to be different. It's going to be different and and it's it's it's not it's hard changes like that's hard
Yes, I feel like your situation is kind of baby steps because
Yes, you're separated. He got used to that. You're still a year later
In the same house. You can he comes and he goes and and then I think it's some medical reason
I think if there wasn't a hundred percent
Also, I think if I was never diagnosed
With all the cancer stuff. I mean I was acting crazy. Yes, I know
Before they found the tumors like I was I didn't care about repercussions about things like I will say I was not
Myself, I had conversations with you. What is wrong with you?
And I think you get mad at me. I'm like no, you're changing something's weird and you're
Swain you're slurring you're
Are you drinking? Are you taking something like what is going on? Yeah, so I mean there were I mean
They think that I had those tumors for over a year. Mm-hmm
So like you have to imagine my entire life blew up
And I really didn't even realize it was blowing up until I was in the hospital
And they were telling me that I they were cutting all these brain tumors out
I don't remember it. I don't I mean I have this crazy necklace that I bought
I told you about that like I
Slate still laughs when I bought it. She was like mom don't buy this necklace like what are you doing?
Wait, which one was it? Oh my gosh. It was I was at a horse show and I think I know what it is
But go ahead
It's got a heart on it. Mm-hmm. Yep
And it's really it's more expensive than anything. It's very expensive. Remember you showing it to me at your house
I'm like oh, okay. Yeah, I lost my fucking mind
So not only did I blow up my life
I also was making like rash decisions and I was being erratic
Yeah, and you want to know why I was being erratic? Something was wrong with me. Yeah
Something was wrong with me and you know what? I'm not saying I'm perfect now
But I am saying like I can
Realize when I am
Not feeling well. Yeah
Well speaking of relationships that have gone south Kyle makes it clear that she did not choose between the show and her relationship
and like she said
I'm still here like it didn't get ultimatum
She also said that she's no longer heartbroken, which is good. Yeah
And then Dorita ledges that Kyle gets back with this person when filming ends
And Andy asked her about it and then
Dorita's like ask Kyle, you know, she's right there
Yeah
She was a little um a little spicy with Andy
She called him out on an analogy. She she's right there ask her like she she was getting a little spicy with him
I I'm a little bit and you know, it's gonna sound after I had my rant earlier. This is gonna sound you know
counterintuitive, I guess, but I'm a little worried about Dorita because like she was not nice to Andy at all
She's now nothing very nice to many of the women
Any storyline that she's involved in is one that involves her and her being mad at other people
Yeah, I mean, I get it, but I also I'm also one that will challenge him as well if I feel like if he asked me a question that's not
um
Correct or if he's insinuating I meant something different. I'll call him out. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't it enough for unions to even know that
Yeah, I'm like I've done it before. I think I've even said to shut up
Yeah, I mean, I think I think the whole thing is definitely
You're seeing what everybody else is seeing, but it's compiled into this little tiny
You know, yeah, bit of time
Yes
I won't say when it comes to Dorita's been nothing but nice to me. She really has every time I've met her
She's been really really nice me to have a like a friendship. I wouldn't call her friendship
I don't know where I don't have her phone number. We don't even DM, but she's been always super nice to me
Yeah, I mean this is the thing. It's not that I dislike Dorita
It's that we are different people our belief system is different
And like if we're really gonna say that I'm such good friends with Dorita that I need to be having her back right now
Do you think I was invited to that book party right right
No, you were friends with her while you were filming because you guys had a job
We actually fought most of the time while we were filming and then when you got off the show you did not maintain
No, we did we did for like remember when the Fox Force 5 had like all this like everybody hated us
Yes, so there was like a year there where we were all very close, but then Dree kind of
I kept seeing Rena Kyle
Erica
And myself and then Dree wasn't at those dinners anymore. You guys also had like a group text message too, right? Yeah, we don't have that anymore
That group text messages been gone since we've been off the show and left you to
Pull up those old text messages. That is on the pre-tumor phone
Oh shit, where is the pre-tumor phone? I don't know. I'm kind of scared to open it
I think it's in my drawer right here, but like the last time I opened it I had 16,000 text messages
Great. I had a little tiny font and reminded me when I was still able to read and I was like
Oh my god
Then Sutton's drinking is brought up too
She said she wasn't drinking too much, but she was drinking too often
So let's break that down. What is the difference between too much and too frequently?
I think too much is when you drink to the point of like blacking out. Okay, I think too often is like when it's every day
Okay
That's the way I would but never admitted there was because Andy asked her did you have you know a bad relationship or something like that with alcohol and
The her response was
It wasn't yes
It wasn't yeah, it wasn't yes, but it was I needed to make a change
Well, I'm happy. I'm happy she made the change. Yeah, I'm happy she made the change too
I mean, we do see a different side of her. Yeah, and I like it. I do. I do like it. You see a much more sensitive side to her
Yeah, but I also worry about
You know like where her friendship's tying in who she closed with
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I'm down with terrible crack all day but yeah, yeah literally put just so y'all know I mean at this point
Mark this is the second episode where we've discussed crack so I'm starting to see that there's a through line
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Did you see the thing that the garsell interview?
The clip that they showed or the whole interview
Okay, so garsell apparently said to Kelly Ripa um
You know, she's not ready to walk back in even though the door is always open unless you felt like the all of her friendships were severed
Um, I didn't even really remember there being an issue
Between Sutton and
Garsell at that reunion
But I guess they they brought it up at this reunion
It was when
Sutton said the you know the one thing she's happy about this year is her relationship with Erica
And it was after Erica had already kind of gotten into an argument with Garsell and said she was fake
Well, what do you mean you didn't see something she walked off the stage and said that she was done
Yeah, I mean take a picture. I didn't see
I
Never saw Garsell and Sutton have a fight. Yeah, I never realized like that their friendship like well Garsell said
I mean Sutton said that she didn't reach out to Garsell
But
I'm sure we have to go back and listen to that interview with Kelly Ripa
Was it was it on like her podcast or was she on the show? I think she was on the show. Mm-hmm
Um, but I still think it hurts Sutton
I'm sure it does and you know right now like
Who is Sutton like you said who is she the closest to?
I think she's flopping around. Yeah
She's lucky. It's always good to have a friend
Yeah, I mean she's kind of flopping. There's moments we see her with Amanda. There's moments we see her with Erica
There's moments we see her with Kyle. There's what I mean. So we see her fighting with Doree like there's
Have we ever seen her with bows?
No, no, but speaking of bows and Rachel
Doree got pretty close to them
Quickly. Yeah, and almost like these are my friends now
I'm going to poop who on these ones over here that I've known for a decade. Yeah, is how I see it
and it's it's interesting to me that
bows and
Rachel really haven't warmed up to Kyle
Well, I think that Rachel when you see the episodes like when they show the flashbacks
I think you see the relationship between
Rachel and Kyle
But I don't know that Rachel and Erica have probably gone the distance. I think that takes time to marinate
um
But we haven't seen much of it with bows either. It's like they've kind of been keeping them separate
mm-hmm
And so it's kind of that mix um, but then we get kind of back around to remember it was was it Rachel's house where they had the party
Yeah, well Rachel's house that where they had that party and
um
Doree said that Sutton had her eyes the ones that were going to be mean
Oh, yeah
Sutton
Eyes give bad Sutton. What does that what does that even mean? I could tell when Sutton was gonna kind of lose
it on me. Oh, so she's basically saying oh those are her eyes before she
Goes crazy or not crazy, but I mean
Sutton gets crazy on me. I mean she called me what everybody called me when like they wanted to give me a dig either
John melanchamp's daughter. I'm boring like yeah pick the new avenue like those the two
Um mines your your daughter hates you. Yeah, that's my thing
So daughter hates you. It's like hope was something new that's so decade ago. Yeah, like we got it
We know I I understand I'm a neppo baby and you find me boring and I have a monotone voice
Okay, but we're still talking about how boring I am right and then
Erica tells Doree she didn't show up to her book event because she was hurt by Doree's comment
Okay, this is where it gets a little messy and confusing. Yeah, I am kind of confused. What what you take on it
Okay, so I think what
Doree is acting like she has no idea why Erica's mad at her
But what we're missing is that they broke the fourth wall
At what part at some point during this season Doree gave Erica some sort of a pep talk
About you need to do more or you're not going to be on the show. I why Doree thinks she knows this information
I don't know
So is that why you say why are you trying to save yourself? Yes referring to her spot on the show
Referring to her spot on the show and that is what pissed off Erica
Well because Doree does revved it up ever since she knew she's getting divorced because prior to that
There was lots of talk that she was not going to be back on the show. Yeah
So, but I think to say that while you're kind of insane she's like
Insane that's a whole nother beast like it's one thing if one housewife says to another housewife off camera
Like listen from an outsider. I'm telling you. I don't think you're doing enough
But then when Andy asked Doree if she wants to apologize Doree. It's like apologize for what
For what like you didn't apologize for but she did say it on camera everybody could figure it out. I know
um
And
She still even when
Like Andy got upset and Andy was like
She is saying she broke down when you said she was going to lose her job
Right she didn't step it up and then Doree still doubled down and said what am I apologizing for
She's
What what were you going to say don't leave it only to me. She's just like a little and sufferable
Yeah, it's just like always wanting to fight she won't bend at all she won't be like
You know what yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have said that
Yeah, I mean she just wants to fight yeah
She just wants to fight. She doesn't want to apologize for anything
I did think um if we're just going to do like now that we've hit the main points
But if we're just going to kind of go through the reunion. I thought Amanda was pretty funny
Yeah, I um, I thought it was a good reunion for Amanda
I feel like people got to know her a little bit better and it wasn't just all about her business
I mean, I think it all was all about her business
But I think it was a different side of it. We got a different side of her
We got her laughing at herself for the first time right
Um, which was good. Find out she got married
Um, yeah, I think that she was more likeable at the reunion. I thought she was more like both the reunion
And um, I thought the Jennifer Tilly moment and the Sutton moment. I thought that's what a true friendship reconciliation looks like
Uh-huh. You could see both of them
Were hurt by what the other person said and dead and like
It didn't care no matter how uncomfortable that dress was um
She was going to lean over and hold Sutton's hand and say I'm sorry. Yeah, the things that I said
I've been friends for a long time. I know, but that's that is what like
That's what the show is about conflict and resolution right and actually seeing it what we're seeing with Doreed and Erica and Kyle
That's we're not seeing any resolution
And it's it doesn't make for good TV either. No
It just makes you annoyed
Yeah
Um
And then I felt like Erica was very um outspoken this reunion
I thought Erica was great. I mean, I thought Erica had made many points. I mean, Erica even says you know, she's like
Doreed new and I've said this for weeks now, but Doreed knew about my DV stuff
And she still chose
To act like she didn't know I was having a hard time. Yeah, that that's messed up
Yeah, so it's like I think this is the problem Doreed is giving such a hard
exterior
Do you think she's doing that because she got attention for it the first year she did it
Clearly she can't take it she's commenting on our two teas and a pod feed. Oh, thank you for for watching
Ha
Thank you for that uh, over one hundred million downloads
Oh my god, I know now that she liked it. There's two hundred and four I mean she commented on it
There's two hundred and forty eight comments on her comment. I'm like, I'm sure most of them are negative towards me
I'm not okay. Thanks for the engagement
Though all of a sudden we have 800 comments on our like
um
but
Yeah, no, it ends with Doreed does not want to apologize for anything
Do you think she's going to come back like that next season
I don't think she can and I do think what I was saying
yesterday
When we were talking about pk the before or I was being an asshole when I was saying the the things that would
Truly bother me they would really bother me pk has kind of
Said it's his show
I did this. I created her. I made this. Well, he in one way he has because
He got a hold of Lisa Vanderpuff. He got
Uh, her on the show
Yeah, he got his wife on the show and it was the demise of their marriage. Yeah
But wasn't but what that's what I'm saying
Would was there were they on cheek ground beforehand? Is there an aspect where like oh, I'm famous now
So I'm feeling myself and I don't need you
What what is it because it doesn't really shows doesn't have to destroy marriages
And they're not explaining what it is. Do I think that this reality show destroyed Kyle's marriage? No, I don't
I don't either. Yeah, and I think she said it true. She goes, you know
I don't think it destroyed my marriage. She goes but had we gone and moved to somewhere like
wherever she said um yeah
I'm just gonna say ask one because I can't remember where she said she did say um
And he could be a ski instructor. He could be a ski instructor
Do I think and she's like I don't think it would have and maybe more more money is more opportunity
Yeah, and so you make all this money. You're around different people you get a lifestyle
But you know what that shit gets old. Yeah, that gets old. What doesn't get old is just being at home with your family
Yeah
Being at home with your family. I thought one that wants to go out every single night or even at all
Yeah
So I don't get it. I know I think it's a little it's gonna be a little bit tough
But um we have one more episode of the reunion to do you think that you might even know this but
Do you think there's any movement with the three girls?
I don't think there's any movement at all. I don't think we'll ever get any movement which I never think is good
No, it's never good for somebody somebody when
But you have to understand the person unwilling to move right now is Dari
I'll agree with that
Because we've got Erica Erica's even had to read back a couple times during this reunion right and by the way what the
They fight and over
What are they what are they truly fighting over?
Who's what about when Dari said you're seething with jealous oozing with please don't say oozing also or seething or whatever word used
Would jealousy over her my friendship with bows
Yeah, I hate when someone says oh you're so jealous. I mean yeah, you're so jealous
Um, I don't know, but maybe I just don't like you bitch. Maybe I'm just sick of your shit
Yeah, maybe I'm just sick of your dog shit. Yeah, like I'm sick of you treating the headlines now
Tamer's sick of Dari's dog shit. That's not what I said. I'm we're talking in general
Well, ready
But I mean, I thought it was a good episode. I was entertained. Yeah, it was great. That was great
It was a good way for part three
But I can't wait to when we start doing our podcasts and I just start answering the phone and talking to people as if you're not having a conversation with me
Hey, how's it going? I feel like you kind of pulled out a sandwich one time when we were doing an interview when you had your
When you're tumored up
She's like first of all you're waving back and forth. I'm like, what is she doing?
And then I was taking bites of my sandwich
Take it and you bring your say I go what is she doing? What is she doing?
Yeah, I know already captain Jason
She was with captain Jason. That was what I was staying in the
um
Whatever it's called the camper camper. Yeah, I'll see you remember that
I know, but I can't really I can't remember that interview
I mean all I know is that captain Jason isn't mad at me because he's still what's apps me. Oh good all right
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