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Welcome to the Griplock Preview of the Queen City Classic.

Disc Golf is returning to Charlotte.

It hasn't been there in a full event capacity in a while.

Obviously, there's a lot of history out here.

For those of you who don't know,

this is where Paul McBeth won his first world championship

at Hornets Nest.

Joe Mez also was started back in 2012,

right there, filming Paul McBeth's final world championship day,

the final nine.

The tour championship has been out here at Hornets Nest a few times.

Some of the most people know it from.

I feel like it had established itself there

as the tour championship spot.

Yeah, it was there kind of a four-winter,

and then before it came to us, the Powerball Cup.

And most recently, the Matchplay Championship was there.

So you've still seen Hornets Nest.

You'll probably recognize a lot of the holes.

When I was going through the practice round yesterday,

it seems they reflowed the course,

so they're starting a different place than they used to.

I think the most recent hole one

from at least the tour championship hole one

is now going to be hole five, I believe.

But if you go play Hornets Nest,

your original hole one,

that's not where they're starting.

So when you first see it,

you're going to be like,

why the frick are they starting on the back?

It is what it is.

I really like the starting hole,

but the flow makes a lot of sense,

because I mainly like the finishing stretch.

I was 17, I could live without,

but 16 being the island water hole,

and then 18, I like being a final hole there.

So anyways, regardless of all of that,

you'll recognize a lot of it.

You used to end on that downhill,

part three, that's just kind of like open.

It wasn't really like it,

it's not an easy get necessarily.

It was like a super exciting hole.

You could have a,

you could have a two-stroke swing,

but not really.

And they've also ended it before on that part,

like that part five in the woods as well,

the like, equalable one.

So I like this layout they're doing.

If you don't know what Hornets Nest is,

basically, it embodies Caroline and Golf.

When I'm looking at it,

I think I've seen this type of course,

in like probably a hundred of them across the Carolinas,

where you've got tight woods,

and then even when you get to the open,

it's still not like,

oh, finally, let's bomb one out there.

It's like we're in the open,

but we still need to throw a placement shot

to get back in the woods most of the time,

or to be approaching a tricky green.

So every shot out here is some type of placement,

whether it's just like,

oh, okay, we're attacking this basket,

or there's a very kind of specific landing zone

that gives you the window you want

to either approach the tunnel shot or approach the green.

So I think it's a, I really like this

because I feel like this is back-to-back weeks,

where like, big, easy open,

you knew you were in Louisiana.

It felt very Louisiana-y.

This, it really embodies Charlotte disc golf.

I feel like Hornets Nest is like the perfect course.

It just blends all of the courses I've played

in North Carolina together.

I, yeah, I think this is very,

is a very unique tour stop,

and we're gonna get a very unique leaderboard

because it is way shorter.

I mean, this is coming in around 9,000 feet,

for example, we just played a 12,000 foot course.

Granted, that one was the longest on tour,

but 3,000 feet difference there.

I think it's like a par 62 for the men.

Very short, very tight.

So like, you know, you can hit early trees

on a lot of the holes.

So you definitely have that tight woods,

but like you're not gonna see,

like you're gonna see a lot of par threes too,

just like a way more par threes than normal.

So I think it is fun.

I do love that, you know, the first three events,

not only are they, like for the geography,

that I think they represent the region are cool,

although frankly, supreme flight.

That is a supreme flight.

That geography looks like it can be anywhere.

It doesn't look like Florida.

But each event has had a very signature feel to the course.

None of them, like sometimes, you know,

if we play a golf course, for example,

you could a lot of times pick those up

and place them anywhere in the country.

And it would be somewhat makes sense.

I mean, some of them have some unique terrain,

not a tonne.

These courses all really have a unique feel to them.

And they feel like they're going to produce winners

that maybe go along with certain play styles.

And I think that's fun to have on tour.

I think it's good to disperse them as well,

because like all three of these,

I think played at different strengths as well.

It's not like we're like, okay,

this is the third time we've played

a kind of tight wooded shorter course.

So I really enjoy that.

I think what's interesting about this course too

is back-to-back weeks

with interesting T-pad situations,

because last week we had concrete pads instead of turf,

but they were ginormous and had lines all over them.

This week, we have T-pads that are a little decrepit.

They are concrete, which is good,

but they are shorter than normal in a lot of spots.

And also, some of them are kind of tilted.

Like they're just the original teas

that have been in this course for a long time.

And I noticed in some of the preview,

like the practice rounds, it's a little bit of a factor.

Now, you don't need a ton of ginormous run-ups

on this course, but I'm curious to see

if we get any T-pad narratives,

but I'm excited to watch.

Like I love wooded golf.

I will be interested to see,

like if they get a huge spectator base,

like way bigger than they got in it.

It's supposed to be pretty busy.

It should be being in Charlotte

and like tour championship, like they drew crowds,

but not maybe huge crowds,

because of its proximity to the USDGC.

So if this gets a big time crowd,

I'll be interested to see

how the wooded shorter track

kind of like handles the spectator groups

and like how they filter that in,

but it should be a lot of fun.

One thing I do like about kind of,

we saw this at the Big Easy Open.

I didn't actually realize that we saw it

until I was calculating our points

from our Dark Horse picks,

because we picked the two hometown heroes.

I picked Silascholce, you picked Matio.

Matio won, finishing ninth.

Silascholce finished 15th.

So they both placed very well.

And I think that has a lot to do with...

No, I didn't take Matio.

You didn't watch the whole thing.

Oh, you backed out of them.

No, no, I took Matio, and then immediately said,

oh, I'm looking at the wrong year standings.

I can't take Matio, and I took, you're gonna hate this.

I took Joseph Anderson.

Where'd he finish?

It was very good.

Where did you say you're going to end it up?

15th.

I think Joseph...

The anniversary was like on second card.

That didn't even hit me at first.

Yeah, I literally, I went to pick my Dark Horse,

I had Matio written down, and I took him,

and then I went...

Wait, what are you looking at?

He finished fifth, so we're fine.

So you still get the points, points didn't change.

Oh, I won both one.

Yeah, I was literally black out.

No, just Matio was in nine.

Yeah, no, I took, I ended up...

Matio was in the top 30 last year,

which the standings were using.

So I was like, oh, I'm looking at the wrong ones.

I need to take somebody else, and I was like,

Joey Buckets.

And so, that ended up...

It still works out.

He was like, because after day one, I was like,

he might win.

That's hilarious.

But I do think that Joey Buckets

is not a hometown hero of Louisiana,

but Matio was.

Yeah.

Anyways, Matio, regardless of his Dark Horse or not,

the top 10 silo shoulder top 15,

I think we could be in for something similar here,

where we see guys that cut their teeth

and Carolina golf having success.

I don't think that's necessarily pushing for the win,

but I think we could have some guy sneak into

like the top 10, top 15 that are more your hometown heroes.

You know, we're talking Evan Smith,

the Carolina guy, Evan Scott's Carolina guy,

Austin Turner's a Charlotte guy of those three came to my mind.

I don't know if big germs playing this, I imagine he is.

I wouldn't be shocked if all of a sudden it's like,

wow, big germs in the top 20 here.

Well, it's so interesting because you look at the course

and you see how short it is

and you immediately think like,

oh, somebody's going to shred this course,

but then it's not really that shredible.

Yeah, you watch lines and it's just like,

how can somebody for 18 holes actually continue

to hit these lines?

Like you're going to mess up and kick early

and when you kick early, you're taking bogey.

Well, also some of the par threes are still long.

Yes, no, there is still some long ones.

Some of them are a little more open.

Some of the longer ones, but there's like,

yeah, there's some tunnel ones that are that are very long

and then like there's a 321, but the foot one,

but the gap is like five feet wide.

Yeah, so it is like a deceptive course,

but I still with that being said,

I think what that means is I don't think you get

a huge part of the field shredding it,

but I think every day there's going to be one guy

that really has a chance to separate.

So like if some player can go out and have two of their

three rounds be really shredder, like you could see

somebody pull away a little bit.

Well, I think also what it does is it will bring

the entire field in because pretty much every hole

is reachable for the entire field.

Oh, yeah, like I guess some of the par threes,

I think there's like a 480, par three.

I think that might be hole is that whole two?

The longest par three is slightly downhill

is the one finishing hole.

The one, then that's how I'm talking about the whole teaser

with the road on the right there.

That one might be like 430, 430, 430.

Like it was I remember when I watched air and gossage

and Ezra Aitor holds practice round,

like they were struggling to get pin high

because you couldn't, you didn't want to flip anything up

because of the road.

Yeah, that one's, that one is, and like Ezra throws far.

I said, that one is picky because of the ceiling

is weird on the one, yeah.

So like some of those were like, yeah,

your smaller throwers aren't going to have a chance at that,

but that's few and far between.

Most of them are like, okay,

it's a two-shot par four is 650 feet.

And it's like, yeah, there's a lot of place in it.

There's a lot of place in it.

And like there are literal par fours where like you can

throw putters off the tee or make,

and like that, you just don't see often.

So I'm very excited for that,

but let's actually get into some storyline.

So first off, what's hot right now

is the Ricky Ganon rivalry.

That's been forming these first two events.

They finished one, two, both times,

actually went to a playoff the second time.

Do you think we'll see them battling it out here again?

Or do you think one of them might struggle

with the change to a course that favors

a bit more of the field?

I don't really, I don't really see either of them

like struggling necessarily.

I think it's really hard like on the Discord Pro Tour,

we could be going anywhere for week three

and it'd be really hard for those two

to literally be battling three weeks in a row

that's super rare to happen.

But I still think there are gonna be firing

on all cylinders and be huge challengers at this course.

Like I think that, you know,

Gan and his laser accurate, I think Ricky had,

I think a forehand is really helpful in this course.

I think Ricky's scrambling ability

is gonna be super useful in this course.

So I don't think, I do think the leaderboard could get

crowded and it's just genuinely hard

to have three events in a row.

Or two guys are just continually

to battle for the win, but like,

I don't see any reason to believe

that they're not gonna be competitive

and like be right in this thing.

I still have them both very high in my predictions.

Yeah, I think that they, I feel like both of them

are gonna be top five most likely

just with how they're playing right now

because one thing about a shorter course,

quote unquote, for the tour,

is it brings putting in so much more.

And when these guys are on like Ricky's putt

was right back where we used to always see it.

Or that last round, a big easy open.

And so going into it where they've got the momentum,

they're feeling themselves like,

I don't think that they're, when they're at their best,

I don't think anyone really comes close to them.

And yes, this brings the field in a little bit more.

So it kind of mutes that, you know,

dominance factor they have.

But Ganon's, what Ganon's known for is Mr. Consistent.

And so I think that the only thing he might struggle with

is someone the lines that's gonna be asked of him

aren't necessarily his like go to lines.

But if anyone's gonna be able to hit a gap every day,

it's gonna begin.

And so I love Ganon there.

And like you said, Ricky,

there are several holes out here

that work better for forehands.

I love Ricky there.

And also he has been one of the best scramblers of all time.

If not the best scrambler of all time.

And so when you're going to,

would you love that too?

Only reason I don't think they'll go one too again,

which I definitely could,

is just because it brings in so much more of the field.

It's really hard to do.

Yeah.

And so.

I think that we're gonna still see them up there.

We're gonna see them on coverage.

I think that narrative will still be there where they might,

they might be duking it out for fourth and fifth

or something.

I don't know.

And we're still kind of talking about it.

But it wouldn't surprise me if one of them won.

As a Robinson won the match play championship

out here this past season.

How much weight do you put into that performance

when judging what you're expecting to happen this weekend?

Yeah, I mean, I think that a match play is a little different.

You know, there's a lot of like,

it's very like you're in that one match.

It's hold to hold.

It's a bit of a different field.

But what we're not surprised,

because as a Robinson and his brother grew up playing

Woods, Golf, and Georgia.

So like, I don't, I do like as a Robinson on a wood course.

I like his brother even more on a wooded course.

So I think that it's more just that he's a good woods player.

And like, so I wasn't surprised he won the match play.

But obviously, it's even more encouraging

that he did play well enough to win it there.

Like that doesn't hurt.

Yeah, I'm not, I'm not putting all my weight in it

as far as like the match play specifically.

But I do think that he's going to have some,

some comfort coming into this event.

I think that he obviously is going to know the course pretty well

being that he just played it in competition.

Not everyone gets that.

Not everyone has played it in competition

as recently as him.

The match by championship did not have a big field.

So I do think there's something to that.

Just because some of these guys haven't seen this course

in competition for multiple years.

So the lines might look a little different.

They're playing a little bit of different flow obviously.

And so I do think there is comfort to that for Ezra.

And then the confidence that comes with it.

Like if he's hitting his lines,

I don't think anyone would be surprised.

Oh, Ezra Robinson hitting his lines.

He's in contention to win this thing.

You add to it the confidence of he won match play there.

I like him a lot out there.

Now, when I was looking kind of through the history

of this course as it relates to the pro tour,

one day I might did find that consistently

does pretty good out here is Chris Dickerson.

Yeah.

Some solid finishes last year didn't find himself

in the winner circles.

Kind of heated up as the year went on.

He came, he's coming off a decent finish at the big easy open.

What are your expectations for Dickerson?

Holy one, at least one, maybe two tour championships.

That horn, it's nice.

Yeah. So I mean, Dickerson's a good woods player.

I don't really, I'm kind of out on Dickerson

being like a winner.

Like I, I just, I am like it is.

He's just been like he is still consistently good.

But until he proves me wrong, like I, I think there are guys

just that are playing more disc golf

and are too high of a level right now.

There's too many other guys.

Like I, I think the Chris Dickerson,

the way that he approaches the tour is best for him.

He's had a pretty good career in disc golf

and he's still very good.

And I'm not going to be like astonished

if the guy gets in contention.

But I think like I said, there's just too many guys.

He's like, what was his last win?

Did he win in 2024?

Like I can look it up for you here.

His last elite series or better win was 2022.

Oh my god.

Champion cup.

Yeah, okay, then I don't even feel as crazy

as I even thought I sounded.

Yeah, I'm a little bit out on Chris Dickerson

as being like a winner on tour

just because I think he is still good.

It's just like there are players on tour.

There are, there are a few of them

that are good and consistent.

Like Matio, even though he got his win is another guy.

You'd be like, yeah, Matio, I expect Matio to be like,

oh, he's in the top 20 every other week.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Is he going to be in contention to win?

Not often.

And like I feel like Chris Dickerson

and his past was not like that.

Chris Dickerson was in a is a was a very high level player

that was winning a lot on tour.

Major winner like legit.

But right now that's just kind of where he is.

Like that's just how I view him.

Yeah, he just finished six the big easy open.

That's why I couldn't remember his last finish.

Yeah.

If there was a weekend Dickerson did get in the winter circle,

I like this weekend.

I don't think necessarily that means he's going to

buy any means because I do agree with Trevor.

Four years is a long time.

I do think that part of that is the way the tour has

headed over those four years.

I think the tour has become less and less Dickerson friendly

because we go to less short woods courses.

We go to less touchy courses.

We go more to long, bomb it out there type courses.

So when there is an opportunity where we come back to one

like this, I do like Dickerson's chances better here.

I don't necessarily think this is going to be his weekend

that he will win, but don't be surprised if you see him

in the mix going into the championship Sunday out here.

So I do like Dickerson out here.

I think he's going to have he's going to have a kind of like

pressure free weekend because at this point,

no one's really expecting anything of him.

So it's just kind of like he's going out there.

He's going to be comfortable playing Carolina golf.

Obviously he's a Tennessee boy, but those translate a lot.

Tennessee's not that far from Carolina.

So he cut his teeth on a lot of tournaments

in North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee.

He's probably played the Carolina clash.

I'd have to look back, but I'm sure he's played a few

tournaments out here going back in history before you even

got to the tour championship and stuff.

I don't think his success at this course is a fluke.

I think that it lines up with his game very well.

And if he can be firing on all cylinders,

I think he could be one of the best in the world out here,

which would mean he could have a shot at winning this thing.

Now, when we are talking woods, golf, placement shots,

that always brings up Isaac Robinson.

This seems like a course that will perform very well at.

What are your expectations for him?

He's my favorite.

He's my favorite for this event.

I just, when I look at these holes and I continually

see these lines that I think there's this thing with woods

golf where you see lines that actually look like

forehand lines because it seems so insane to actually hit

them with a backhand.

But the forehand, if you watch them hit the gap,

it's never quite perfect.

And you realize then after, man, it is just a backhand.

It's just a really hard backhand.

And like that's what Isaac Robinson does.

Like he throws backhand lines that don't seem like they

should be possible.

He's a gap hitter, placement shots, like this,

this is an event that I'm sure he has to feel great about.

And he's definitely my favorite here.

I think he's just one of the most accurate woods players

out there.

We saw what the guy was doing at the Champions Cup.

This course is tight, but yeah, I think he's going to do great.

I agree with everything you said, but I think you're

forgetting one thing, which is the next tournament

on the schedule's Champions Cup.

He's my favorite to win Champions Cup.

I was trying to tie him up.

I don't like him winning back-to-back events.

So therefore, I don't like him winning here,

because I like him winning a Champions Cup.

You don't like him winning back-to-back.

That's just a probability of hitting the back.

Yeah, I just don't like, I don't like,

I think that he's probably already gearing up for a major.

I don't think his mind is going to be on the course.

Maybe.

I think he's just like, he doesn't want to week off

before the game.

He doesn't want to time it up.

He doesn't want to, like, he's not going to want to waste

his win here.

I think lose probably like to win and go back to back,

but I think he's probably thinking, like,

oh, frick, if I win here, I might not win the major.

I'd rather win the major.

I don't think he's thinking that.

We'll see.

If he wins this weekend, if he wins back-to-back,

I was wrong.

You're right.

If he doesn't win back-to-back, I was right.

Well, if he wins one of this one,

and doesn't win the major.

If he wins one of two, I was right.

I agree.

Either if he loses this one and wins the next,

he was timing himself up.

If he wins this one, loses the next, he messed up.

I can't.

If he doesn't win either, we were all wrong.

I can't argue with that.

But no, that's obviously that's being silly,

but I do genuinely like, I really like him at Champions Cup,

and when I think about it, I just don't like him

winning back-to-back.

So therefore, I can't like him here.

Well, when you think about it, you think it's really hard

for players to win back-to-back.

So if he's going to win one of two-

That's what I'm saying.

And I like him more at Champions Cup.

But I can't like him at both.

Okay, let me ask you this question.

So that means, like-

Gannon, I would like it both.

If you just both Gannon-

If Isaac literally wins and is dominant this weekend,

you will-

I'll be a little scared of him at Champions Cup.

You will legitimately not-

I might still pick him to win for the prediction points,

but I won't like him as much.

I think you need to commit and say-

Okay, fine.

If he wins this weekend, I'll put him in second for Champions Cup.

Okay, thank you.

Yeah, that's good.

Yeah, you got my word on that.

Yeah.

I don't like him to win back-to-back.

It's like, that would be crazy if you wouldn't

pick him any way.

Well, let's just look.

PDJ Isaac Robinson, let me look here.

Like, has he ever won back-to-back?

Probably not.

That's what I'm saying.

You think it's all the sudden going to happen?

How many guys have won back-to-back pro-tours?

We won Champions Cup last year.

He had finished six before.

I mean, Champions Cup last year's a little bit off.

It's not back-to-back there.

Outside of AB and Ganon.

That's what I'm saying.

Who else has won back-to-back?

Exactly.

Yeah, it's a probability.

So, like, if I like him,

that's like the high-hand penalty.

That's being like, well, we rolled too many fives.

Like a five's not going to roll again.

Yeah, he went from fourth to first.

That's what I like a solid finish here,

where he's like, he's waking up.

It's solid finish like every other event.

Yeah, even Champions Cup, he came second the next weekend.

Like, he's not going to win back-to-back.

Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

If he's not going to win back-to-back,

I would just three in a row.

History would say he's not going to win back-to-back.

And I really like him winning Champions Cup.

I can't like him to win here.

Okay.

Because he can't win both.

Take the liver, we see.

So that's where that's my only problem

with the Isaac Robinson pick.

Problem.

It's because we've got Champions Cup coming.

That's my whole line of thought.

Okay.

Follow it.

It'll lead you somewhere.

Now, we do see Nikolas Antle joining the field again here

after his three win season last year.

What are your expectations from him in his season debut?

You know, Nikolas Antle is one player

that I can't really say I have a huge read on.

The one thing I do know is that when he,

his like M.O. in my mind is that he joins the season

immediately like early in the year,

we go like, oh my gosh, like Antle is so undery.

Like why don't we talk more about Antle?

Like he's like top three, he's top five, he's so good.

And he grabs these wins.

And then I do think he fades a little bit.

But I don't know what to think about this course

in his game.

Like I said, I don't really have a huge read on Antle.

So I'm just gonna put myself at Antle a watch.

Like I am not expecting insanity here.

Like I think I would be, you know,

as prize be falls outside like the top 30 or so.

But I'm at least gonna be on watch

that if he does like pop up and just win,

I'm not gonna be mind boggled because I'm like,

okay, this is what happens.

This is what he does.

Like he gets an early in the season, he grabs these wins

and you're like, oh, yeah, Antle is so good.

But I don't know.

The only reason I don't like him here

is match play last year.

He lost to Ezra Ader Hold.

He lost to A, B and he lost to Matio.

He didn't win a single match.

It's not a good championship.

I think that is just kind of too condemning for me.

It's pretty condemning because like if this was,

he lost to, if he lost to Isaac Robinson,

Chris Dickerson and Ezra Robinson,

I think I'd be like, okay.

He lost the three woods guys.

But Ezra Ader Hold and A, B, I wouldn't say

that this is like their course.

I think they can definitely play well here,

but I'm not looking at this like,

oh, these are the guys that are like the guys to beat out here.

So losing to both of them and then Matio, sure.

Matio I think could play very well out here.

But losing to all three, not winning a single match.

And Matio, he didn't even win a single hole against.

When I look at that, I think that's just a little too

condemning for me to think he's going to be

in the mix this weekend.

It wouldn't surprise me because when he's at his best,

he's one of the best disc golfers in the world.

I do think he gets overlooking his little underrated,

especially on the American side.

I think the European's obviously hold him

to much higher regard.

And I think that that's rightfully so.

He is much better than people give him credit for.

But I don't think we're necessarily going to see it here.

I think there's too many people

that this course plays really well too,

that he will kind of get muddied in the mix there.

Now, Austin Turner is coming in as the hometown hero

of sorts to a certain extent.

I mean, his most notable sponsor is one of the presenting

sponsors of the event.

Obviously, he's a Charlotte person lefty,

which I think this course favors a decent bit at times.

He has had back to back 50th place finishes to start the year.

Is this the tournament?

He can put it together and creep into the top 10?

Or do you think that the pressure is going to be too much?

I mean, it is.

It is the tournament because it's so much different

than the first two.

But I'm kind of out on Austin Turner right now.

So now, I think it's up here by guarantee he's outside

the top 10.

I think the top 10's a big ask.

I think if there was a weekend for it to happen,

it'd probably be here.

It top 20 wouldn't surprise me, you know,

just cut through right now.

But the top 10, there's just too many guys

that I think are going to do better.

If he had been finishing 25th, you know, 20th

or something like that, where it's like, okay, his golf,

his golf is good because those first two courses were,

it's not like they were anti Austin Turner courses.

So I think that had he played those better,

I'd feel a lot better coming into this.

But with that really rough start,

I just don't feel great coming into this forum.

On top 20 wouldn't surprise me.

Top 10 would.

But speaking of North Carolina talent.

The last thing he should have worked at the first two courses.

Speaking of North Carolina talent,

what do you think of Evan Smith heading into this event?

Yeah, I think Evan Smith is,

is God of Young People's Radar.

Really accurate, you know, home state.

So I do like Evan kind of an interesting player this year

because he's not really doing the like the full tour.

But like, I think people like,

I think Evan is still one of the most,

he probably is like legitimately the most underrated player

on tour because people forget he's like,

he's like top 10, like he's not,

he's not a slouch out there.

And I mean, he started this, he's not okay, didn't he?

Like gaming ninth, it's a pre and flight.

He came in 33rd, a big easy.

Yeah.

But I do think his game is a little bit more,

more technical.

Like that long of a course,

well, so they're not expected in 33rd,

like you could have been three strokes better

and probably jumped a ton of spots.

I was actually see like what was the disparity?

33rd, he shot seven over, had he shot three over.

He was top 20, right?

It, it, so like, I think Big E is open is one that like,

you really have to overlook most of people's scores for that

because there wasn't a ton of separation between everybody

and there's only nine players under par.

So, yeah, I like having a lot at this event.

Definitely one to keep, keep an eye out for.

So it's going to be a jumbled up leader board.

Like, there's just going to be a ton

of interesting names towards the top.

So it's really hard to predict.

Like I, as much as there's so many of these outlier guys

I like it, when we get events like this,

I almost feel more inclined to pick chalky

because it's like, you have to almost lean

on the predictability of certain players.

So I don't, it's, it's very difficult.

Whenever we get wild, I love getting wild.

I love just like one of these guys

is going to have to be wild and pick them.

But I think Evan Smith, I think he's due at some point

for a breakout win.

And if I'm looking at the schedule of when it could happen,

I think this could be it.

I think that I'm not necessarily like,

it would still be a breakout win in the sense of like,

it's not going to be expected.

But when you're just looking at it, like,

he is extremely, extremely good disc offer

that is playing on courses that don't favor him

most of the year.

And he's making it work.

This is a course that does favor him.

What will that look like?

Because even Supreme flight to come top 10 there,

again, when I'm looking at that course,

it's not screaming Evan Smith.

You know what I mean?

Like, I think this course is,

I think this course in New London,

I think he could do very well at Champions Cup.

I really do.

So I think that this is kind of a stretch

where Evan Smith could make a name for himself,

whether it be just being in contention

at both these next two events

or if he's able to pick up a win this weekend,

I think it could be huge.

Yeah, I do think definitely a course

that presents the opportunity,

I think, for a first time winner.

And I was, I'm always excited to see that happen

because there are a lot of tracks

where like, you're just going to get washed out by Ganon.

So it's cool.

It's cool to like maybe get a first time winner.

That would be really neat.

Any other MPO players you have your eyes on?

Hmm, not really.

Not really.

I think the one other one that kind of came up

in my research was actually, yes.

And I'll get to that with my dark horse pick.

He's also my dark horse pick.

So this could be tough.

Well, we have to flip it going then.

Well, Evan Scott.

Oh, no.

Okay.

Evan Scott is about to bring up

because when I was going back down history,

I found a Carolina clash from, I believe it was 2021.

So I was trying to see what Evan Smith does out here.

And he came in third at Carolina clash.

I think it was 2021.

It was one of those.

And he lost to Joel Freeman, won it.

Evan Scott came in second.

And I started to look at Evan Scott.

And again, another Carolina, he's a South Carolina boy,

but South Carolina, North Carolina,

they end up playing a lot of the same tournaments up there.

And I think I could, I really like him here.

I don't like him necessarily to win,

but I think he could be a guy that creeped into that top 15.

Second in the, Evan or the Scott power rankings.

Evan Smith, Evan Smith, Evan Scott,

Aiden Scott.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Now over in FPO, very exciting week is it's the debut

of Evelina Solan and Silva Sarnin

and Hannah Blomersville.

Yeah, no respect.

Evelina and Silva, that's what we're really looking at here.

What are your expectations from both of them?

Spice things up.

My expectation is that they get into the mix

and make the top of the leaderboard more interesting.

I am watching with baited breath.

Brody just keeps reminding me about this Evelina

putting arc that we're supposed to see.

Have you actually seen the footage?

I have.

I'm not buying it yet.

I got to see it in the light.

Certainly not.

Yeah.

Of course I'm not buying it.

Because I've seen Evelina put practice butt before.

I hadn't.

Well, like I've seen it in like a, I don't know where I've seen it.

But I've seen it because I remember at some point

watching him being like she, like she's in phenomenal putter.

Which is a really good app.

It's just like, it's not surprising when you get to the course

everything changes.

But like, I mean, I put together stretches in this,

in this, uh, imputting league and stuff where like you would think

I might be the greatest putter of all time.

And then you put me on the, on the course, I fold like cheap.

I'm going to play a game.

I think where I'll what, hopefully she get catches a future card

and might not, but we'll see, um, and I'll tell,

I'll let you know when the gigs up.

Like if, if the whole one she makes a 15 footer and it's a little squeaky,

it's like, I'm not quite yet.

The second I see it, I'll let you know, it's the same one Evelina.

If you're a real baller, you'll call it before she's missed one.

Just the way she walks up to it.

No, no, no, I'm saying like she's making putts still.

Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, like as soon as she misses a bad one,

yeah, everyone, like if she airballs one three feet right from 10 feet,

I think everyone's about, yeah, there'll be something that you could tell it from.

But I'm excited to watch that.

I'm saying it, I'm thinking if that first 15 footer is nervy and it's like low

left, I'll accept if it's low right and it's like somehow that caught,

I think the gigs up might be even if it's a make it should be pretty obvious

because I think the way that well, if it's going to be her body language,

after she releases it and the way she's,

is she surprised it went in the way, yeah, the way she was doing the practice

putting like it didn't look like her nervy, like whatever it is.

It wasn't nervy, so yeah, it's insane.

It's like you should be able to tell like literally just from the way she throws it.

But I, yeah, I'm expecting her and Silva to make things interesting.

I think Silva, like, should fit pretty well.

Of course, Evelina throws the disc really well.

So I think both of them really have a chance at winning here.

I do think Silva has a chance.

We've seen her really start to establish herself over the last two seasons.

If progress continues, she could step into Kristen's shoes in a sense

where I think that she has, she doesn't necessarily have the distance

where if Holland Hanley's on, I think Holland Hanley will still be able to win.

But Silva has that consistency.

We started to see that last year, which is where Kristen made her money.

And I think that that could be Silva's game.

I think Silva could just be someone where she's going to make the punch she needs to make.

She's going to make the shots she needs to make.

If you end up having a great weekend and you're throwing it farther than her

and you're making her puts, you're going to beat her.

But if you slip up at all, she's going to be there.

I think Silva could establish herself kind of as that player.

I don't think it necessarily has to happen this weekend.

But I think that if she is that person this weekend will kind of be the first of many

because I think that Silva could be someone who comes out here

and just out consistent to field and walks away with the win.

And we're like, holy cow, where Silva's back, Europeans are back.

Here we go.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, a lot of times and so far this year,

it hasn't been too brutal, but like predicting FPO, you know,

is like trying to find a needle in a haystack half the time

because in MPO, it's very difficult,

but we have players that are really consistent.

And in FPO, especially once you throw somebody like Evelyn into the mix

who like on any given week could look unbeatable

because it's like, wow, she doesn't even need a putt.

She's still win and then can just like kind of stink.

Although last year, I feel like she was missing from the tour for a lot of it.

But when she was there, she was pretty darn good.

Yeah.

But like, you know, it's, it's the same thing we like Holland where it's like.

Holland was unbeatable until she wasn't exactly.

So I just get nervous, you know, trying to really lock down like what?

Who's going to do what and who's going to be the most consistent?

Because I think like the leaderboards in my mind,

especially in FPO, but probably both divisions are going to do a lot of shifting over three days.

Like, yeah, I do think you're going to see huge variations of scores,

people that are just cold one day, hot the next and jump a ton.

So it's going to be very, very hard to get a good idea of what's happening until the final day.

Now, in the match play championship, we saw Holland Hanley take down Missy Gan,

in which in my head seems a little backwards.

I do think this course, I would have said this course favored Missy over Holland.

Do you think this was a fluke or do you expect Holland out before Missy again here?

Well, that's just what I mean.

Like it, and any given week, Holland can be better and more like Missy, yes,

Missy, you typically think of more accurate, like finesse type game,

but on any given week, Holland can be way more accurate.

Like we've seen Missy just all of a sudden start shanking it.

Like it's, it is what it is.

So fluke, no, I think it's match play.

I think it's, I think it's random.

I think all of these players that we're talking about could be in first or 25th.

So that's what I think.

Now, I think for Holland, I think it's proven enough that like she had a really weird stretch

at the end of last year, but I do think it's harsh to say she would just,

but like I don't see her coming in 25th at this event, um, and maybe I'd put silver in that crowd.

I think so, silver, own and Holland are like three players I'm willing to say,

probably are not taking a dud here, but anybody else, it's up for grabs.

Uh, I think the, I think something interesting about match play that could come into play here

is when we look at it like with match play, you can't blow up now.

You can't take a massive hole.

And if you do, you just lose one hole.

Correct.

And you don't even have to time, you don't even have to finish out the hole.

So you start taking a hole that would be a blow up.

You just can see, doesn't have to deal with that.

Now, I don't, I'd have to rewatch the match to know if that happened or how much that happened,

but the thought of that is like, I can't blow up.

Take so much pressure off that I do think that is probably a part of the reason

Holland took down Missy.

So I expect Missy to outperform Holland here.

Um, I think Holland could win for sure, because hot, I mean, anyone could, uh,

but I do like Missy a bit more.

Now own scog and started the year off with the somewhat surprised when it's a preem flight.

With this being a course that seems a little bit more and owns wheelhouse.

Do you think she walks away with her second one of the year here?

Uh, pretty good chance.

I, like I said, own isn't that category of players that is just super consistent.

The course isn't super long.

It's actually like a six par 66 for the women.

They gain, um, an extra shot or two here and there.

So I do like own a lot at this course.

I think she's going to be in your way.

Like there are players who can outplay her here.

But like, I think she's going to be somebody you have to beat.

Like you mentioned, Silva kind of being, you got to, you know, deal with her consistency.

I think own right now is that player that we've seen so far.

Yeah, I think that she definitely could walk away with the win here,

because I said this in MPO, but I think it's going to be true in FPO 2 where I think when

a course gets shorter, putting becomes a premium.

And that is typically that's what surprised us so much about supreme flight was own one

without dominating the putting green.

That's normally where own makes her bread and butter.

I think that could come into play a little bit more here.

And in the woods, it, what's interesting is when the woods are this tight,

we talk about circle two puts at the last event.

And if you watch a hornet's nest, the only way like it's, it's almost like you park it,

or you get edge of circle puts.

Because if you hit the line, the line perfect, you are under the basket.

If you get a shot that like a lot of shots are good when they

hit the gap initially, but then they don't quite have enough push,

or they don't fade quite enough, or flex out quick enough.

And then you end up with a ton of these like just around circle's edge,

like shots, or maybe you hit last tree and you get that.

So I do think that you still are going to have to make a bunch of those putts.

So I do agree with that.

Any other players you have your eyes on?

I see you have one of them written now, but I think MJ Gager is a very interesting

player to watch at this of tournament.

Yeah, I wrote her down as well.

I think that I don't necessarily think she could win here, per se.

But we saw it's a preem flight, and she got into the top 15.

She was in I think like 14th place, she was playing very solid.

She's a 14 year old, by the way.

And from what I understand, she checked the scores, and then like the weight of like holy cow,

I'm about to catch my first protor event, hit her, and then she blew up a little bit.

She is a proven winner.

I think she's won like 50% of the event.

She's played in her something crazy like that.

But we've watched her play.

She might have one of the best putts in FPO that I've seen.

She can also throw the disc a quarter mile.

You can see her on rip disc offs.

Instagram, I think she threw like 400 some feet with a TL3 mind you, which is crazy.

So I think that like if she's hitting her gaps and she's able to be comfortable out there,

again, I don't think she's pushing for a win, but she could be a player that surprises you on

coverage where we see her, you'll see a graphic pop up about.

She's only 14.

It's on chase car situation.

And you remember like Ganon, you know, Ganon obviously, he started to splash on

tour, I think at age 15, but he really didn't start like making strides until 16.

And I think he won that major at 17 didn't he?

I think so.

But in any case, like when you're talking about MJ only being 14, like there's still a

year. So plenty of years of development even beyond the kind of track that Ganon was on.

Yeah.

You know, which is crazy company, but I'm just saying it's always it's really cool when you get a

player who you feel like is already getting really close and has a lot of the things that like

like distance, for example, is something that like you can hope that it develops, but

might just not come along.

So when you see somebody that already kind of has the putt has the distance and really experiences

all there is that that's needed again.

That's really exciting.

Yeah, the other player I had on my list is Valley Mandihano.

She had a very solid event at the Big EZ Open.

I think this course could work well for her.

It's all just going to come down to if she's hitting her putt and hitting the lines.

But I think she's still someone that a lot of people sleep on.

Every time we talk about her or a picker and pick him or something like that,

people call us crazy.

She's a very good player.

Let's pick them.

All right, pick them time.

So tour life took Ohne Skoggins, Evelyn Asalanan and Hannah Wynn for FPO and they took

Dan and Burr, Chris Dickerson, Maddie O for MPO.

Gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.

Okay, so here's what we're going to do.

We are going to make our picks.

Do we?

Yes.

Hunter, we have to do it once or do we not?

Do we save it for next week?

What we originally said we're going to do.

I have a different wild strategy.

Okay, well, I'll explain what we were going to do is we were going to make our picks

as normal.

We were going to think about it, make them and then we were going to completely throw

those all the way and take three new ones.

Because here's what I'm looking at.

We stink.

Here's what I'm looking at MPO.

Because this sounds crazy.

I think we don't even use our full $10 budget and MPO.

Okay, I think we pick a player out of the four dollars here and two out of the two

dollars here.

Well, I were just looking at this right now.

I would like I'm saying I would really take Isaac as your Robinson and Evan Smith.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Four and it's eight dollars.

That's why we can't do it.

But it's eight dollars and like two of them are coming to our 10.

But like here's the thing.

Instead of that, what we're going to do is we're going to take Ganon.

No, they took Ganon.

It took Ganon.

Okay, we're going to take we're going to take freaking Rick Goose.

And freaking cold on.

Like we're not we're just we cannot take our first pig.

We can't we suck.

But Isaac Ezra and Evan Smith.

It sounds so good.

But then what's going to happen Hunter?

Here's what I'll just do it like a prediction.

That sounds so good.

But then when literally the leaderboard ends up being like freaking Ganon Rick.

Like it ends up being chalky.

We're going to feel stupid.

We're like we didn't take any of the chalky players.

Okay, I feel like that's okay.

So we're going to throw Isaac Ezra.

And Evan Smith, we can't take him.

I don't know if I can't take him.

Nope, nope.

We're back on.

I thought we could do this, but I don't know if I can do it.

Because that's who I want to pick.

I want to pick Isaac Robinson.

Ezra Robinson, Evan Smith.

We can't take any of them.

So we're going Ricky Wiseauky.

Give us freaking Sullivan Tipton.

No, I don't like I like Goose better.

Like Goose more.

Goose has been pretty good this year.

Like he's been that's what he's been the wagon for tour life.

They taking him twice.

Okay, okay, okay.

Let's just look at what he's let's look at the head to head.

Because I think I think he scored twice for them.

Sullivan Tipton has went fifth 21st.

He did take a 35th and 21st isn't bad.

And Aaron Gossage has went

ninth eighth.

Yeah, Goose is a wagon this year.

But like what if what if he what if we what if we what if we missed time?

I think he's considered I think he's Mr. Consistency though.

Okay, and I watch him in that like he's he's getting around that track.

Ricky Wiseauky.

Aaron Gossage is going to work.

This is going to work.

Who's our third?

Marweed or Paul Kranz.

I don't hate Paul Kranz.

He did just spend a week in Puerto Rico.

Mason Ford.

We take to Uly to take Uly.

Mr. Charlotte.

No, no, no, no.

To our top.

We need like a top 10.

We need a top 10.

Yeah, who's who in the $1 tier is most likely to come top 10?

And we also don't it doesn't have to be on this.

So it could be the rest of the field.

So like we.

Us is in there.

See, there's a sleeper.

This is where this gets tough.

Is there a sleeper?

Oh, do we take this Anthony and Selmo?

Oh my god.

1042 North Carolina guy.

He'd be at one dollar pick.

Delights are going to be he's my he's my he's my boss.

No spoilers.

But he's my dark horse.

That makes perfect sense.

Well, this is okay.

Let's just look.

He's literally insane.

Has he played the Carolina clash recently?

Good idea.

Okay, collegiate each street Tennessee.

He came in second at Tennessee State.

He's really good.

I mean, he just cleans up now.

He cleans up North Carolina golf.

In North Carolina golf, I hate like it's all the same.

Nate Queen won the tour championship.

But like this would be the epitome of us being stupid

taking this guy and then him like coming in 40.

What's the Charlotte?

Like we would this would literally be the epitome of our stupidity.

I mean, he kind of he shot 10 under across two rounds at angry beaver.

He's free.

Angry beaver that he's nasty.

That's not even a real poor.

We're taking him.

Let's do it.

Yeah.

Let's do it.

We want Anthony.

Well, how do you even say his last name?

Enselmo.

No, we're not stupid, Trev.

We're not stupid.

We're anything but it's Anthony.

Enselmo.

This is our week.

This is our week.

Anthony, I need to figure out how to spell last name.

42 rated.

And he plays in cold.

Enselmo.

A and S e l l l.

Bro, we're going to get made of so hard for this.

Ricky, well, remember, we originally picked Isaac, Ezra and Evan Smith.

Those are the best picks on the table.

I do like this what we do like with this strategy is now if though

if our first picks did really well, we could be like,

we're so funny.

We were like, we try.

Yeah.

We have six players on the board now.

If this works though, we're going to do this every week.

Okay.

We do it again for FPL.

Ricky, Aaron and so here, I'll tell you, well, who do they take?

They took Evelina.

They took Oh, and Evelina.

And we're so good.

Okay.

So like, I think we would have ended up gravitating to.

We got to take a $7 tier.

See, I don't like this because like, I want it like,

do we do it for FPL?

Because like FPL.

Well, no, yeah, okay, wait.

Okay, but fairness though.

We're good actually being good at FPL.

So stick to our normal FPL.

We're good at FPL.

But so like, I like so, but then like, who do you take in the two and one?

Well, the problem is the $4 tier.

Wait, is Val still down?

No, Val is in the $4 tier.

He put Val next her face.

Actually got her face right this time.

Edwin, because like the $1 tier.

It's a fakus.

She, she's been a top person.

She's been good.

She's been fourth second.

I think that's kind of been one of their wagons.

But we beat them in FPL.

Barely.

We literally tied them last week.

Into the mic, Trev.

We're on show.

Trev's getting too into this.

I'm saying we tied them last week in FPL.

Like we say we are good.

Okay.

So I think I think fakus.

We got, I think it goes so well.

So sorry, and Lisa.

And then the last one is brutal.

So brutal.

Lisa fakus.

Do we just take MJ?

I think we do it.

No, why didn't she plays?

No, she didn't do good.

But she was, she was doing good.

Is there any sneak?

Like we could take on again.

Like that's the only other one that was interesting.

Because like this is her first event back as well.

I think it is.

I don't know.

She played Supreme Flight.

Took 15th.

15th earns us nothing.

That's not good.

It's not good at all.

Okay, let's find some wooded courses.

What's working MVP?

Oh, let's actually let's look at MVP FPL.

That could be a good comp.

I don't hate it.

Okay.

Silva makes sense.

Hayley Kings out.

Hannah Wynn.

They took Sophia Donica.

Oh, I don't mate.

I don't mind that at all.

She's probably up there.

She's in the $2 tier.

Dang it, Ed Wynn.

We have to take her over Lisa Fahida.

Uh-uh.

I don't want to do that.

Um.

Frank there.

There's no one else.

I might have to take on again.

Onakin came 11th.

All right, let's just do it.

Frank it over MJ.

What have MJ?

This is the week.

This could be the week.

The lights could be two bright, though.

How far out of the top 10 did she finish?

I got her stand.

She had a dud and I think I think it only she cashed.

Let me just she really struggled.

Let me just see.

I have to give my eyes on it.

27th.

That's not.

She was five over.

Top 10 was six under.

So 11 now.

She went 66, 66, 74 final round.

Okay, so she was she was on track to be free under.

She was on track to be if she would have popped up

another 66.

Frick it.

MJ Gager.

MJ.

Whatever.

Let's do it.

Whatever.

Let's do it.

We're taking flyers.

Frick.

Ricky Weissaki, Aaron Gossage, Anthony Enselmo,

Sylva Saronan, Lisa Fakus, MJ.

Anthony, you better be a freaking baller.

We got to roll these predictions.

We need to put in.

Graham, you're a college disc golf guy.

Do you know Anthony Enselmo?

No, I've heard.

Yeah, I've heard of him.

He's a legend.

He's 1042.

His presence kind of speaks before he enters the room.

Is he on camera?

He's in you and on you and see.

No, yeah.

Cardinarian team is on that team.

If he's on that team, they'll be discussion.

Okay, okay.

Our college disc golf insider has heard of him,

but hasn't seen him.

That means his presence enters the room.

Our insider who's not currently eclectic disc golfer.

He's just closer than we were.

Yeah.

Anybody's closer than we were this.

All right, all MPO.

So points wise, Trevor is up 10 to 8 currently coming into this week.

Let's just get right into it.

MPO picks.

I'm taking Ezra Robinson to win.

Yeah.

I'm taking Ganon Bird to come in second.

And I'm taking Chris Tekerson coming third.

We both have Ganon in second.

I'm taking the other Robinson in first.

And then I'm just taking Ricky in third.

I think I just got to keep him around right now.

He's going to be moving trees left and right.

Right.

MPO do you have?

Silva, Missy, Oh, we almost we almost struck out there.

I have Silva, Missy,

Evolina, which I actually like in hindsight.

I wish I'd put Evolina in my top three, but I didn't.

I wrote it down in dark horse.

You already know.

Hey, my finders actually on brand for once.

There you go.

Once a year.

Yeah.

Yeah, Anthony and Selmo, dark horse.

Well, I'm going to be rooting hard for him.

I hope I hope Evan Scott comes.

We need either Anthony or MJ to like make it work.

So we don't look like we look 50% smart because like the like these could be the worst picks

in the history of our picks.

And that's hard to do.

But they also could be legend.

But like, look,

the tour life is going all safe.

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I actually disagree.

They took Hannah Wynn, Evolina, Maddie.

They've been a dollar.

What has been a dollar on that?

They kind of went all over the board.

What's Hannah Wynn?

She's in the dollar.

But I look at their picks.

And I'm like, they're just so smart.

You know, Maddie O and Dickerson and getting their all top 10.

You know that I don't know, Maddie O is oh, yeah, I don't know.

They're all top 10.

Like that's the thing is they know.

They don't think about winners.

They they about top 10 guys.

Maddie O, they picked based on Paul Yulebari once said,

Maddie O is the best disc offer of all time when he's playing good.

And that's all they picked at the pot of gold.

No, he beat them.

Oh, he did lose his pot of gold.

That is true.

Maddie O is dominated that event forever and just lost the size of sholts at it.

How is he going to recover from that?

How is he going to recover?

Think about that.

Probably not well.

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