Road Warrior Radio with Chris Hinkley, September 4, 2026 Hour 2

1:00Welcome back. Top of the second hour of this delicious broadcast, Road Warrior Radio this Friday, September 4, 2026, one week away from the 25th anniversary of September 11, 2001. And maybe I'm having too much fun. I just don't want to entertain the dishonesty there. We could go on for weeks and months about things directly, you know, things that we heard directly related to the events of September 11. But the, it's like the magician's scarf, as I say, we could pull on some colored swatches.

2:01And that would span out over the course of years and decades and so many other episodes, speaking of Patrick Klauson, you know, what's in a word, episode. We may recall that we had to wait for the Lucitania episode or the Pearl Harbor episode or the main or the Gulf of Tonkin episode or, you know, and so we had the, you know, there's always, there's just usually an episode somewhere lurking nearby. So you know, it spans out into those kinds of conversations and it can get muddy, I think, pretty quickly, pretty easily. But I really, in the, over the next week, I would like maybe to find a way to really draw

3:06a sharp point to this anniversary because there are folks who are trying to do a bad thing. One of the examples that I mentioned yesterday, it didn't quite finish talking about was this Guardian article by David Smith, published September 1, 2026. Let us down such a dark path, documentary explores how 9, 11 changed America. And it's an article, kind of center around Brian Nappenberger's Netflix documentary or what do you call it when it's supposed to be a documentary, but it's just straight propaganda, which is pretty much everything. But that's what it is. So turning point, turning point generation 9, 11 is the, you know, propaganda, humanery, propumentary, whatever it is. So you know, I read from that article, I never really got to the part where, you know,

4:11the part. So there are these young people who grew up with their parents who were heroes among them, Laura Homer, whose father, Lira Homer was the co-pilot of United Flight 93. And so David Smith writes in his article, she confides, I know he was a hero, but I wish he didn't have to be my entire life was kind of built around this. I'm still struggling so much. And it has taken over like my whole life, grieving a father she never knew, Laurel finds herself confronting strangers online who send callous direct messages or pedal conspiracy theories, claiming the tragedy was an elaborate inside job. So people send her direct messages, how do they do that? That's interesting. Who has access to a person like that? Who has means motive and opportunity? People conspiracy theories talked about again, the CIA's dispatch 1035-960, which has

5:18been subsequently, I mentioned the AP article yesterday trying to debunk the debunking of the CIA's attempt to shame people who would ask legitimate questions by construing them as cookie, wacky, financially motivated kinds of people, unhinged whatever, definitely not smart thinking, patriotic people who say something is wrong here. These things don't add up. So then there's the on-new-in example whose father, Kang Nguyen, an immigrant who grew up amid the Vietnam War before immigrating to the U.S. I wonder if the Gulf of Tonkin episode, etc. Should enter the conversation. It was killed while working as an electrical engineer at the Pentagon.

6:22On was four years old when his father ran out to kiss him goodbye at the preschool bus on that Tuesday morning, never to return. Nappenberger observes it's incredibly profound to understand what the children of people who lost their parents lost their loved ones on 9-11 went through on those days. But it's more profound when you think about how it changed their lives and those events have stayed with them through the evolution that our country also went through. To view the modern U.S. information ecosystem through the eyes of these families, exposes the depth of contemporary political cynicism, he continues, there has been a nemification of the event where conspiracy theories such as jokes about a son who have been law and or George W. Bush circulate on platforms such as TikTok and Instagram. More perniciously, here it comes, the truth or movement, which is linked to a guardian article, escape from the rabbit hole.

7:24The conspiracy theorists who abandoned his dangerous beliefs, dangerous beliefs. More perniciously, the truth or movement rejects the official account of 9-11 in favor of conspiracy theorists, including that it was orchestrated by the U.S. government itself. And like I said yesterday, no, it wasn't orchestrated by the U.S. government itself. That is a fallacy of oversimplification. The truth is there were elements of the U.S. government involved in what was going on. The director says, quote, 9-11 gave birth to the truth or movement. Now that's something real interesting to think about. If you've heard me talk about the advent of net war. And so James Perlov tweeted back in 2021, September 11, 2021, that Zemeckis's back to the

8:30future released in what? In 1985 and back to the future, too, the sequel released in 1989, predicted the collapse of the towers, for example, foreshadowed the events of September 11, 2001. That was the 80s. 1996, the advent of net war. If you've read it or heard me talk about it, this idea that 9-11 gave birth to the truth or movement isn't so far fetched when you read the advent of net war and you think, wow, these guys were actually engineering all this stuff. So the director says 9-11 gave birth to the truth or movement, this incredibly dark movement that rises in a disinformation environment, claiming 9-11 wasn't real or that jet fuel can't burn steel. If jet fuel could burn steel, then how would planes fly?

9:37Exactly. And I've talked about the clip. We play it typically year after year. Maybe we should play it this year. Frank D. Martini, the architect, interview January 2001 who said, these buildings have been engineered to resist planes being flown into them. Multiple plane impacts, he said. And he said it would be like sticking a pencil in your mosquito netting, the mosquito netting of your screen door. You could stick a bunch of pencils in your screen door. It wouldn't cause it to collapse. It would just poke a bunch of holes in your screen. And that's what Frank D. Martini said. Francis Albert D. Martini, like I said, undoubtedly named after Sinatra. But that's what he said. So yeah, claiming 9-11 wasn't real or that jet fuel can't burn steel. If jet fuel could burn steel, how would planes fly?

10:41And aren't planes made largely of aluminum? So throwing a pop can at a reinforced building like that. Anyway, that it was an inside job, et cetera. When you look at these disinformation campaigns through the eyes of children who actually lost loved ones, and this is where we throw in the hysterical, histrionic outrage, the Greta Thunbergs. How dare you disrespect and dishonor the memories of those people and their children who lost their parents and their heroes. And I'm not making fun of those people. I'm making fun of the effort to try to shame people off of asking legitimate questions. Jet fuel can't burn steel if it could, planes wouldn't fly. They would explode and they would melt.

11:45That's kind of, I mean, yeah. Rolls-Royce wouldn't be making plane engines. They would be defunct because they would have been sued for making things that incinerate people. So when you look at these disinformation campaigns through the eyes of children who actually lost loved ones, how dare you. That makes it even more profound and telling. To have in burger traces of thread from early conspiracy theories to today's fractured political reality. There's a direct line from the early 9-11 Truth or Movement through all the rise of conspiracy theories online and a direct connection from that to figures like Alex Jones, who became a leading figure in the movement. Who decided there was a movement? If you want to move people, don't you need a movement. All the way through the disinformation and misinformation that we see now that divides and tears are a country apart. The timing proved fateful.

12:47Facebook launched in 2004, Reddit in 2005 and Twitter in 2006. And you know what? The OS Ent initiative, the Open Source Intelligence Initiative was launched in 2004, but people didn't get the point because there was other social media. Facebook required you to authenticate your real self. And there's that video that still floats around. Do you have a Facebook? You know, what is it? Like five minutes and talks about Gilman, Louis and you know how everybody's close to DARPA and it is born out of the total information, the ashes of the total information awareness project. And I would just use Open Source Intelligence and have people do it themselves. Maybe there's a reason Facebook is free. They're not making money on all of that ad revenue that they're generating because you know what? Nobody advertises with Facebook.

13:48Why would you? No one sees your stuff anyway and no one can get back to it. Anyway, we see stuff like this thing that Tucker Carlson posted. Was that yesterday I think? Not a couple two or three days ago, something like that. The people making decisions about immigration never impose these decisions on their own neighborhoods. Look up the 15 riches zip codes in the United States. They're also the most stables zip codes because they are not subjected to mass migration. That tells you the whole story right there. Martha's Vineyard looks a lot like it did 50 years ago. So does Nan Tucket. So does Brookline Massachusetts. So does Aspen. If it's so great, then why don't they have 10,000 Haitians living in Martha's Vineyard because it's not great? That's why. It's not an attack on the Haitians. It's the nature of mass migration of taking people from a completely different culture with

14:52no education, limited skills and no money and dropping them into what was formerly a pretty prosperous stable community. Who benefits not the formerly prosperous community? So you leave something like that as kind of a bomb out there rattling around and what's going to happen? To evolve the way that Jaren linear wrote in You Are Not a Gadget Manifesto, it's going to turn into an incendiary device metaphorically speaking. Kind of a social media, kind of a conversational IED placed in social media. That's what it turns into. Because the conversation on social media is never one that it doesn't rise to some

15:53higher level of understanding almost never. There are places, there are people who do that, but it's rare and it's seldom. But the medium is the message. So what's going to happen? And then all the more so if you have trolls and then bot farms through Operation Ernest Voice and Astroturfing campaigns and things, you pour gasoline on that fire where it can turn into an improvised explosive device where it just becomes an explosive and incendiary and people get upset. So you can move people and they don't actually get together and start formulating a plan and say, you know what, maybe we should kick this kind of stuff out of our local community and not be doing this. Maybe we should be more thoughtful, go talk to our state representatives and so forth.

16:53Anyway, let's go to the phones and grab James and Vancouver James. Thanks for calling. Welcome. Do we have James? Do we have James? We have to have the beep. Good morning. Action beep. Yeah. Can you hear me now? Yep. Good morning. So I was in New York City for my birthday in 2001 and that was in July. Then I was in New York City a couple of months before that. In both times I was staying, leaving or not, a decollusion insurance. I don't know if you're familiar with that building, but it was a block north of the North Tower. So while I was looking toward both towers, when I was there both times and I was looking

17:57toward both towers, when I was there both times and the lights on both towers were on, like 3 o'clock in the morning. Of course that's not too strange for New York City really, but then I can't remember if I saw any activity. I wasn't the college of insurance. I don't think when passed 10, the 10th floor, so I can't say that I saw anything to special. But now, then after my birthday, of course, I went back to Taiwan because I was short on money. And then of course, I get the phone call from my associates Tuesday nights, Taiwan time, but there was this airplane that went into the tower and I thought they're talking about

19:00a set's nut or something like that, right? And then of course the whole thing, yeah, well, then my associates got very upset and hung up the phone and they weren't at the college of insurance by then. They were in Brooklyn. They were watching it on TV. Now, I get back to New York December of 2001. And of course, yes, we all go down to the site to inspect the, the, to new parking lots. And of course, the air is, hello. The air. Go ahead. Yeah, well, I guess we're ready. Okay, okay, we'll take them right now. No break. Oh, no break. Okay, well, you go in the air. So then, yeah, and we go down there and the air is incredibly toxic.

20:00Now if you tune into 77 W A B C these days, New York City, you will hear people advertising that if you have had any kind of lung trouble or cancer in the last 25 years, you can go to so and so, a lot for men sign up for the big contingency lawsuit. That's what's happening in New York right now, you see? Which by the way, another, yeah, I mentioned, I mentioned, I think yesterday, a story from speaking of New York, um, yes, hold on. It was Fox five, New York ran the, they had their little segment titled new FDNY report shines light on 9 11's long term health effects. And that's disingenuous to say the least, but what I was going to say in addition to

21:01what you're saying is it's interesting that the guy who's always magically tapped for all of these payouts, um, the ultimate greasy ambulance chaser is Kenneth Feinberg. Yeah. So he's the guy, you know, you can look him up on Wikipedia. Um, is an American attorney specializing in mediation and alternative dispute resolution service chief of staff, the Senator Ted Kennedy, special master of the US government's September 11th victim compensation fund, the tarp, uh, special master for tarp executive compensation, deep water, horizon disaster, Boston marathon bombing, general motors, Volkswagen recall, Volkswagen mission scandal, you know, I mean, every single one, like, man, if you want to launder stuff and you need the greasiest dude, you know, we'll never talk Kenneth Feinberg as your man.

22:02Well, I actually, I didn't hear that name. I heard a partnership lot for him doing it. So I don't know who can find burgers. Well, I, I get what you're saying. He's been there for all of you. Yeah. Yeah. He's not on 70. His name is not on 77 W a B C. No, but I want to have to know the gather, the gather everybody up in class action. And then when it's time to do the payout, Kenneth Feinberg is always there. Well, okay, that could be. I don't know. I'm just saying that they, uh, their spiel is now, uh, they're not talking about how the towers fell. They're talking about we got to take care of all these casualties that have come after the fact that they've been breathing in that toxic stuff is what I'm getting at first. Well, that's my point. Yeah. Well, okay, but, uh, Dr. I haven't come to my question yet.

23:06Uh, how does, uh, Chairman Corbett in Japan explain the, uh, how the towers fell? That's what I need to know, comrade. I just, the party wishes to know how the towers fell. I have my bloody cat looking at me. Go ahead. Well, you say that the airplanes knocked that, uh, those suckers down. That's a deal. I don't, I don't, I don't know what James's official position is. Mine obviously is that that's not talking about what anybody's position. I need you to know how they fell because it's not possible. I've never happened. Yeah, never happened in the history of things and never will again. Yes. Well, I can tell you, uh, just look at all the powder. When you, you saw the video of the towers both going down, you see all that powder, right? That sublimation, that's concrete and steel being turned into particles, uh, very,

24:10very micronized particles, which means you had sublimation, which he means you had tremendous heat at a fantastic temperature. That's the only thing that can do that. And the only thing that can do that are nukes, okay? Many nuclear weapons. That's how that thing, those two things were whacked. Okay. So let me just get that out there in the air waves. Yep. You definitely. I'm glad it was a nuclear war comrade. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. I, I don't know that I can't prove it. There are a lot of theories about how it was done. I think theories. I, you know, that place, the Los Alamos, uh, you know, ever since the 1940s, they've been making those weapons smaller and smaller and smaller. I can even tell you what company those weapons came from, but I'm not going to. That is too big for this radio station, okay?

25:10But I know where they came from and I know who made them. And I know who invented them. Okay. I don't. There we are. I mean, I can't disagree with you. I don't know those things to be fact. But what I, what I do know is that, yeah, for the average person, yeah. You know, when you try to have a conversation with between a person who's done some homework on this stuff and who has legitimate questions and the average person on the street in America, 25 years later, who has, you know, really sort of lost touch with this other than the annual, never forget that the media parades out, which really is just a never forget that you must hold to the establishment narrative or you're a, right? You know, right? You're an unpatriotic person. For those people, for those people to suggest what you're saying is a reach too far.

26:13But I think what is not is to say, I want to get shirts. I think I want to get shirts made this year where you have the two towers, kind of probably like a black shirt and everything else is white, the lettering, the images are white. And basically, they're the twin towers. And then in between, there is, well, there is a flattened thing, a building that collapsed into its footprint and maybe a little kind of dust from there and, and, and, right, kind of above all of that. It says never forget. And most people have no idea what that means, but it peaks their curiosity. And I've had this conversation with someone who kind of knows a little bit, but doesn't know the specifics. And I say, do you know what the thing in the middle represents? This person says, no, and most people would say that. And when you can say, well, that's building seven that collapsed into its footprint

27:13at free fall speed and was hit by nothing. Now I think you're starting to have a conversation about something. They won't go there either, probably, but you can always put a picture of Rudy Giuliani space on it. And still, sure. Oh, one more thing. One, you mentioned about taking the father away from the son. So the father or so the son does not have the discipline of the father, right? Right. There's one. Yeah. Well, there's one exception to that rule. And that is when your father is demon possessed. OK. When dad is demon possessed, you'd be surprised what happens to the young man in his life. And all the difficulties and the details that one goes to. But anyway, happy Friday. Thanks for taking my call. And a big shout out to all my fans on our BN that hate my guts.

28:16So this is just going to get better for everybody. Like what did you say? The guy on the Star Wars. Let's I love it when no, bring it on. Who is that that that Han Solo, right? So this is right down my alley. And again, have a good weekend. And thank you for your support. All right. You guys. Bye now. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Much appreciated as always. James. Great kid. Don't get cocky. Yeah. There you go. We can't take ourselves too seriously, but we we need to be so reminded at the same time. There should be a balance. I really do think though that I want to get shirts made this year. And I was asked, you know, where can we get shirts made in America that quickly? Wow. What a what a sad state of affairs. Really, we can't get shirts made in America quickly that we could stick something like that on, but I'm serious.

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33:56Welcome back. Somebody is flexing and doing what he do, for sure. We should play some stuff, but first we should get back to the phones real quick and do that. So why don't we do that? Skip in California. Thanks for calling and welcome. Hi Chris, you're here for the UK. Yep. Good morning. You're a good morning. I haven't called in a long time. I've listened to ever. I think last time I called in it was about cybernetics. So it was just different definitions of cybernetics. It had been 10 years ago and it's growing today. I picked up this book the other day. I picked up three books actually. Behold the Taylor Worth.

34:56They're probably probably top here. Team students, 27, legend of mythology of the 27th Club. And then this book, I wasn't expecting it yet, but it's by Reeves Limber. It's called Under a Wing. And then why about her dad, not her grandfather, but her dad, his father, St. Louis, 27. And the kidnapped brother who Charles Stewart. And she did the chapter on that. But what I found interesting was the last chapter. She called it only a suggestion as the title of the chapter. And she's a wonderful writer and their mom is a wonderful writer. I understand. So she's easy to read. But she says, I read some book of I don't know it by heart, but I don't know how that was. She said before it was born, my father tried to change something. Her husband, my mother tried to change something.

35:57Her husband broke. The ill-fort faded isolationist, D. T. Maiden Des Moines, Iowa in 1941, which branded him forever in the till people of the eyes of the S. High Stametic. And she doesn't know much about it, but it gets to college. Nobody seen the care about her dad's flying state, low explained. But they were worried about being friends with her because she's such a fascist. And fascist. Well, yeah, the thing is, yeah. The opposite of a fascist, her dad was very outspoken. He was, I would say, anti-war didn't want to get into this thing. Was very outspoken about that, which is a very sort of lost fact of history. Which is what she writes about, but not in favor of dad. She's surprised how anti-Semitic he was. And after reading anti-Strength diary, she knew that the world was the right thing to do. A lot of us thought that was kind of interesting.

36:57But what she said was she finally got to the front from school told us to look it up. Where college raps, raps, but it was much less well at that point. But she said, so she looked it up. And what he wrote, he said, the three groups advocating war, he told his 1941 audience, where the British rose adult administration and the views. I guess that's what got him in trouble. And so that forever stuck about, you know, who Charles Wimberg was to her friend at school. And the way back my day, she goes, oh, she says, oh, I couldn't believe my dad was such an anti-Semitic. And the mom says to the husband, so why didn't not to write that? Because we'll call you an anti-Semitic. Why wouldn't I write that? I'm not an anti-Semitic.

37:58I feel like, I feel like, you know, this is one of those moments where there's a nuance and it's something is lost in translation. It reminds me of Allison. We're talking about Dorothy Thompson, who was considered, you know, the second most influential woman. I mean, Time Magazine reported in 1939, Dorothy Thompson was equal in influence to Eleanor Roosevelt. They called her the first lady of American journalism. But she, and she was a, she was a Zionist for a while and she ended up going to, I mean, people can even, I've talked about the Wikipedia entry that talks about this. There's a section titled Famic Controversy. She ends up going on her own little journey to, I don't know, investigate. You know, she's a journalist, so she's going to vet certain things. And she goes to, she takes the trip to Palestine in 1945 and becomes concerned all of a sudden

39:01with the activities and things that she's hearing. And then she says, you know, actually this thing, Zionism is a recipe for perpetual war. And the American press world said that was almost a definition, or, you know, she was, she was, she was told that in the press world, this was almost a definition professional suicide. So I think it was Zionism that these folks were critical and outspoken against as we would say it today and not so much Jews generally speaking. But of course, the same press, you know, will kind of reframe that and make it seem like really you hate these people. And in reality, you just hate this ideology that is a recipe for perpetual war, like Dorothy Thompson said. Exactly. Yeah. That's what I look at the world today. But I grew up in a Jewish town

40:03and I can edit it. Well, and I can see her up in Connecticut also. And I had friends from kindergarten all the way through Jewish spread. I had great, I was nice, it was great. I mean, first grade, yeah, first grade, big big big big. I eat out because the ethnographer of his first grade, he's 2000. I said, oh, we get better. But hey, it's wonderful. Nothing else to Jews, but you might miss it. Yes, I agree. Yeah. So just to before we get away. So the first book was, behold, a pale horse. The second book, what was the title again? It's James Simmons, you know, the book, 27th. That's the title, 27th. It's a really interesting dream. You know, if you want to know to write a whole read, you know, the 27th club from Robert Johnson to Janice Doppler and to drummer and the stunts. We have a good

41:10reference to what are you saying? And just interesting book. You're listening, I want to take that one up. I just happened to find it at a record store in Wal place. We're in fine episodes, but James Simmons wrote it from his kids. And so it's a good book. That's a quick read, go quick. That's all. If you hold the pale horse, I've only given it to you for about three years. I was a bircher and I could have picked it up there and never did, but I've been trying to find it top of that. I think I had that book. I just wrote books to my aunties. Book, DVD, DVD. So anyway, that's all we had. Under a reading, we read Limber's book and get some insight into the Limber's family. That's history. Okay. Well thanks, Chris, really good. You're welcome. And thanks for the, yeah, thanks for the call. Skip, much

42:14appreciated as always. And hope it's not 10 years before we talk again. Yeah, exactly. Well, I've been listening to 10 years. That's great callers. He can't lie. But that was an interesting name of the chapter. I went right to the chapter. Only a suggestion. Can you talk about that? That's the only issue. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks, Chris. I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Only a suggestion indeed. I have said many times I think that that's the devil's, you know, in the court of heaven, that's the devil's argument. You know, I was just walking by in the garden, talking to myself, I said, yeah, half God said. And she started talking to me.

43:15I wasn't talking to her. And so I didn't want to be rude. And she said something. And so I responded. And, you know, there we were. But that's how it works. I mean, when you think about it, what does, you know, people ascribe so much power to the devil and, you know, cunning, sure. And those kinds of things. But ultimately, is someone putting a gun to our head to do these things, or do we entertain the suggestions? Only a suggestion is definitely an interesting title for a chapter. Back to the phones, Merrin Wisconsin. Thanks for calling. My call, Chris. Good morning, man. Good morning. I've got a couple of things now. 10 years. Wow. Time flies when you're having fun. I guess. Yeah. Yeah. When he said Gene Simmons, so that's why I'm with him. Yeah. And you know, I've thought about this 27 club thing because

44:17people, different ones will talk about it. Some of those deaths were faked. Now, you know, my memory goes back a long time since I'm old, right? I remember asking my mom, why did they say Jesus was born in 6 BC? Right? A logical question, don't you think? And she said, oh, they made a mistake. Well, that puts then his crucifixion at 27 AD, right? And I think that's where they got hooked on to this 27 number. Yeah. There's probably something to that for sure. I don't know for sure, but I would be, I would not be surprised at all to know that there's, I mean, you look at things similar to that. Those, it's interesting. We're not supposed to, again, the, you know, the finest trick of the devil is to persuade you that he doesn't exist.

45:17Well, Chris, Chris, if you look at Dolde, right? Hold on, so the, all of the biblical references, the 9-11, one, there are a few 9-11 passages and 11-9 passages. I won't do that, but Genesis chapter 3, verse 22 in the NASB. I'll just do that because it's handy. Then Lord, God said, behold, the man has become like one of us knowing good and evil, and now he might stretch out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat and live forever. I can imagine that the Skull and Bones crowd would probably think that was a pretty fantastic idea. Yeah. We knew in Joe, right? I think this Doctor Day pointed out that the devil walking to and fro like he's bored, right? And God gives him something to do. It's more like he's God's devil. He's not higher than God. And it's like he's, what did she say, quality control

46:24management? I thought that was kind of interesting, but what I really called in to say was about the 9-11 stuff. And I've sitting here, when I was listening in the other room on the computer and going through my, where did the towers go? Book by Dr. Judy Wood. Now she was an instructor professor of structural engineering amongst other things. And with all the different research she had done in studying the evidence, it proved that there was actually nothing thermal or kinetic about what happened. And it wasn't just 1, 2, and 7 either. We, you know, we make a big deal about, oh, nobody knows about 7. Well, it was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7, plus an 8 building, okay? They weren't all destroyed the exact same way, but there were some weird stuff going on. And the 8 building happened to be the bankers' trust. Do I should bank across the walkway there between Washington and whatever other street it was anyway?

47:25And they said, in the mainstream news, it said it was infected, it contaminated. When do you say that about the building, right? You know, they tried to repair it and they couldn't, and they had to take it down because they kept going bad, so to speak. Sure. You know, I mean, all these different things that happened, it shows that there's energy that we could be using for positive means, you know? And whatever you want to name it. So, you know, I just, I just wanted to add that in there. And James, it's kind of funny that was on James Kelsa's last night, he said, hey, my God, and I'm like, maybe we should rename that time slot. I don't know. You know, but I don't think we hate anybody's guts. It's just, we want truth. Each of us wants truth, you know? And if we see a more refined, if we've had time to research and have found a more refined pinpoint of it, well, we need to know that. Move on. You know, they have stuff more than nukes, you know, and they have toys

48:28that are going to play with them, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think, yeah, go ahead. No, that's all right. Go ahead. I was just going to repeat. It was not thermo or kinetic, but also there was almost no seismic signature. And whenever this is put to Richard Gage, he just sort of laughed it off, although he's an architect in San Francisco. Right? You know, how can there be, how can there be a million times and no come down, supposedly actually about 80% of everything justified. And that's kind of what James was pin point there, the small particles, justification. Dr. Wood came up with all these different terms because it was unique to the situation. Yeah. And again, you know, my point in saying what I was saying when James called was really just to kind of underscore the idea

49:30that there are, there are, you know, the controversies remain. And people have different ideas about stuff. But I think that's obviously been weaponized too. Like it always is so that we can fight amongst ourselves. But my point in sort of getting away from that is not to deny any evidence at all or to defame anyone who has information or special knowledge of, you know, technology or whatever. But only to say, I want to, you know, in my estimation, I mean, I don't have those things. And I don't have that special knowledge or information or whatever in those areas. I don't have that expertise. But what I do know that, for example, like I said with Building 7,

50:32nothing like that has ever happened before or since we're a building that wasn't hit by anything collapses into its footprint. And it's sort of just a fight too. Yeah, it's sort of just exactly. And so, and then you have guys like Barry Jennings who was interviewed by ABC, you know, on the scene, basically saying, well, I came out of Building 7. And when we're in it, we got trapped in there because an explosion trapped us in the building. And this is the guy who's the deputy director of emergency services department for the New York City Housing Authority, a guy, you know, not just some cookie dude. And, and then of course, he died not too long after that in 2008. But the underground, pressing underground under the towers, nothing happened. It was in perfect condition and the train ran still, you know? So I mean, it's different in different aspects there.

51:32And yeah, there may have been different things, you know, but primarily. And nobody was concerned as they were using that as they were using that transportation. So yeah, yeah, we're not told that it's concerned. Yeah, and they held the water back, what they called the bathtub there, they held the water back from the river. That was fine. They made sure not to mess that up. In fact, they had to keep the clean up, you know, machines kind of had to be careful there because they were doing more damage than the whole thing coming apart. Yeah, but I just want to make another point here about this book. It's not expensive. She doesn't make money off of it. It's printed in China. So I don't even know if you can still get it. When I got mine, I went to a local bookseller. So I just need to give them my first name. Well, Amazon took forever, overcharged, and the spine was broken. But I got the book and I've read it. And it would be a great course, especially taught by her. But, you know, if we had really good universities, we'd have Michael Gaddy and we'd have Roger Sales

52:35and we'd have Judy Wood or somebody teaching that book. It's very good. Well, I appreciate the callmer. As always, it's a pleasure to visit with you. And I think for the thing for the, that's up and correct. And whatever it was from from before, you guys do a show every weekday, though, that gets pretty, pretty, you know, it's a lot going on there. I know my, I'll listen to mine. I'm like, oh, that's wrong. Like I said, Mitchell Henderson's book is the final day. Well, it's the final wars. And that's another book. People need to get a good handbook. Let me tell you. And you start chapter nine and tell us what the other countries think. And in fact, Russia is being encircled and choked off with the NATO nations. You know, there only outlet was there in the South. And I mean, it started way before that. It wasn't just when they went in. That, that was similar. Trying to rescue the people in the Don bus to what Hitler did, you know, rescuing his people that when they changed the boundaries and then just

53:40started murder and Germans. You know, so anyway, blah, blah, blah, I'll get off. Thank you. Bye bye. Much appreciated, Merr. As always, truly. And those are episodes of history that are not isolated. They don't occur in a vacuum. And so, but we don't have time, unfortunately, to talk about that stuff in this broadcast. Right. I'm going to have time to play James Corbett's 9-11 conspiracy theory. I should make sure we do that every day. I'll do that next week. Back to the phone, Scott and Arizona. Thanks for calling. Welcome. Yeah. Hello, Chris. Come on in. Yeah. Hey, Scott Nevada. Hey, that's the area. Arizona. Okay. Over the years. So then let's go JFK, Oklahoma City, 9-11, and then the COVID operation. One thing I've seen is that when you're trying to talk to people, the real roadblock is they're just not contemplating the evil. So they're not processing the evil

54:46that's there. And oh, by the way, reference to Merr was talking about where did the towers go, Dr. Judy Wood. That was a great book. How about Dr. Mary's monkey? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You know, I mean, you read this stuff. And are you familiar with Danny, Joe Enco, the Dutch controlled demolitioning guy, engineer? Yeah. A little bit. Man, what? They murdered that, dude, man. I couldn't believe it. You know, it's just so right in your face. So everything is right in your face. If you care to look, people don't look because they can't contemplate the evil. Yeah. And you just read the Bible, man. Okay. So chronicles. Okay, I'll let you go. You did it. No, absolutely. You did it. I appreciate the mention. Part of what I was alluding to earlier and I meant to get to was Proverbs chapter four, for example. Oh, can we, can we,

55:48hold on that for one second? Okay. So Proverbs chapter four, do not enter the path of the wicked and do not proceed in the way of evil men avoid it. Do not pass by it. Turn away from it and pass on for they cannot sleep unless they do evil. And they're robbed of sleep unless they make someone stumble. For they eat the bread of wickedness and drink the wine of violence. But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn that shines brighter and brighter until the full day. The way of the wicked is like darkness. They do not know over what they stumble. And on that note, I suppose we could probably, you know, call it a day and do the ghost thing. The way of the wicked is like the light of the evil. God, I appreciate your call. I hope it was informative. Perhaps even edifying is always it truly is not on a pleasure. Have a great weekend. Take care. God bless. We'll catch you on the other side.

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