ROG's mentality monsters, Leinster's questions, and growing the URC with CEO Martin Anayi

La Rochelle have done it again and, unfortunately, so have Leinster. Murray Kinsella, Bernard Jackman and Gavan Casey break down an extraordinary final at the Aviva Stadium and how Ronan O'Gara has 'made a mockery' of the idea that the recipe to success is best kept a secret.

Murray and Gavan are later joined by URC CEO Martin Anayi ahead of this weekend's final between Stormers and Munster in Cape Town. Anayi discusses the URC's efforts to find its own identity, TV revenue, the future of the Welsh regions, next-gen competitions, and how last year's final almost ended up in Cork.

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