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All right, welcome to the Young Turks, Jake. You were John Eiterola with you guys.
So, lots of crazy stuff going on. Tonight, after this Young Turks episode is over at 8 o'clock,
we're going to do a town hall for everybody who's united against war. So, go sign up at united
against war.com. Then go, and if you want to be part of the town hall and ask me a question or
hear what we're doing and be part of the Zoom, then go to tyt.com slash hope and sign up for that.
But anyways, I'm excited last night. We had Joe Kent on, talked to him for nearly an hour and a half,
and it was a great conversation, and I really hope you guys get a chance to check it out because
it was very informative on how our governments infiltrated, how there's an echo chamber that surrounds
the people in power, so they literally can't hear anyone else. It's an amazing conversation,
and then the other thing I'm excited about, I mentioned it at the very end of the show, and I hope
that in case people missed it, Grand Planner has joined the rebellion. So, that's awesome, okay?
And so, now we're up to eight candidates at rebellion and the rebellion grows, so-
A lot of good news for him too recently. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Can't get enough of it, so it's
all wonderful. Now, on tonight's show, unfortunately, we have more discussion of round wars,
but also good news, like the independent podcasters, full blown rebellion, and now,
like kind of cursing at MAGA, okay? And all the way to Tim Pulsing that MAGA are dorks.
What? Wow. I mean, okay. He's a kind of an expert too. So, well, look, I think the
Titus turned, I know there's folks, good folks who see polling and think, no, it hasn't turned,
but here I hear us out on this episode, let's see how things go. But anyways, I get that there's like
folks who are concerned, but I think there's a mass movement against Trump and war and all the
donor class. And guys, the independence are not your enemies. And they're showing it today.
In my opinion, we'll get to it a little later on the show by saying, no, we're not MAGA,
and we think MAGA are dorks. We're just looking for anyone who isn't going to follow the orders of
the donors. And guess what guys? That's us. That's always been us. For the last quarter of a
century, that's been us. And yeah, I told you my 2026 rule of polling, which is independent polls
will always look more like Democrats than Republicans this year. And that's what we've seen over
no hundred percent. Yeah, no question. All right, let's do it. Let's say we've got a lot of
war to get into, a lot of polling to get into, lots of stuff. Let's jump into it.
The reality is that there is no way to extricate ourselves from this situation right now.
There's no way to extricate ourselves from this situation by simply running away.
That does not leave Iran in control of the straight-up hormones, which means 100 to 150
dollar barrels of oil from here to forever. There's no way out, but through.
I told you, in the beginning they go, it's going to be easy. It's going to be a
king. Well, we'll be down in a couple of days. We'll go max a couple of weeks. And then once you're
already stuck in the quagmire, then they're like, there's nothing we can do about it. It's a quagmire.
We just got to go in deeper and deeper and deeper. That's the only way out, no way out, except through.
Okay, if you think that was bad, wait till you get a little Sean Hannity's flip flops.
So we're going to show you in this segment, other than the fact that we are putting in ground troops
with his devastating, is how the echo chamber created by Israel first has created the environment
in which, oh, golly, gee, are we stuck fighting Israel's war? No. I guess we are.
That's a shame. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's no way out, but not out at all.
It's good advice. When I accidentally drive into a lake, I gun the engine.
And that's what you've got to do when you're being paid to tell people to do that.
So anyway, that was a clip from Ben Shapiro, if the voice didn't clue you in. We have more actually.
Now, one of the things that's happening right now is this bizarre media driven ADHD idea that the
American people are sitting there on tensorhugs, every single hour of every single day thinking,
when is it over? When is it over? Here is the thing. If you look historically, the American people
actually have some patience. When turning Vietnam, the Viet Cong counted on the idea that Americans
would get tired, that Americans would get bored. And after a while, they were right. Americans
did get tired. After a while, they'll write Americans did want out. We should know that there were
50,000 American dead by that point. In Iraq and Afghanistan too, our enemies thought, okay,
they can just outlast the Americans. But here is the point. To outlast Americans, typically,
requires not months, not weeks, years. Because Americans are not nearly as stupid as our enemies think
we are. Oh my God, that was broadcast directly from Bizarre land. First of all, he literally
pissed you. Did you hear that? Here's the here's the footage actually going on. He just promised
years of war. He just promised like, you're not stupid. He said people might get bored,
get frustrated. No, no, get Ben. Day one, they did not want this way before day one,
day negative 390 or so. Pretty sure they voted exactly against this. There's no getting
against the war. They were always against the war. They're just more against the war
with every passing day. This isn't a thing of waiting days or weeks or years to see if people
eventually get off their tender hooks and have a problem with this conflict. They never had any
interest in this conflict. And neither you on the media side or Donald Trump on the political side
have done literally anything to convince them that they have any vested interest whatsoever
in what's being done. They have no political interest. They have no international interest.
Certainly no economic interest. You have an economic interest. You're being paid to say this sort
of BS propaganda that you were just spreading right there. But it is convincing no one. It's barely
even holding your audience together at this point. And I know we'll have more. I want to give you a
chance. Yeah, just real quick guys. So he said Americans get bored of work. No,
Americans die in war. We're not at all bored. That's not the issue, right? Secondly, it
John's right. So you say that we didn't stay long enough in Vietnam and Afghanistan?
And Iraq. We stayed 20 years in Afghanistan. So we went in the span of one month from,
oh, this will be over in a couple of weeks too. Well, obviously we have to stay longer than 20 years.
Okay, I mean, they're not even trying to hide that, hey, this is Israel first and only.
And you should all shut up and do it as you're commanded by the government that Ben Shapiro actually
loves the Israeli government. We have a demonstration of how quickly the references to history
have turned. Take a look at this. It turns out that coherent, solid action. We're not talking
here gigantic wars. We're talking about operations like this one targeted action
can provide serious upside and limited downside. And that's what we are talking about right here.
That is the counterfactual that we should be looking at right now. Turns out the only
counterfactual is not a rock or Vietnam. It boggles my mind that we are talking about
endless war right now. Can I just say that people who are saying that this is an endless war and
we are three days in stop being children. If you look at President Trump's record of military
interventionism, do you truly believe that this president is going to get sucked into a war involving
hundreds of thousands of American troops on the ground if you do you are a moron or a liar?
That was less than one month ago. By the way, in his first term, Donald Trump did not pull us out
of any of the forever wars that we were in. They love to say he didn't get us into any new ones.
He also didn't end any of them and then he whined and whined and whined when Joe Biden finally
did. And so that three weeks ago, this isn't going to be a rock and Vietnam. Now he's talking about
like think about the great example of our experiences in a rock and Vietnam and high gain no cost,
no cost. Well, at that point, the average price per gallon of gasoline hadn't yet gone up a dollar
that is up now $1 per gallon. Basically, every product that you buy is going to be more expensive
because of how jacked up diesel fuel is going to be the price of fertilizer is also massively rising.
These are all things that we were worried about because we were children a month ago.
Our bettors, our superiors weren't worried about that sort of thing. Of course, he's rich. Why would
he be worried about it? And now that it's come, shut up about that. Shut up about the cost that
you're paying because I got a whole lot more cost coming. And it's not just him. We're focusing
on Ben Shapiro, but it's also Sean Hannity. At the beginning of the war just a couple of weeks ago,
he was saying all these people talking about us getting involved in a big war, boots on the ground.
You guys are fools. You don't know what you're talking about. But slowly,
over time, very gradually, but inexorably, he moved those goalposts. Take a look.
It's not part of the Trump doctrine. It's not going to be boots on the ground.
Not going to be an endless war. I mean, there are still idiots out there that actually think Donald
Trump is going to put boots on the ground. He's not. Now, they've left open the door,
the possibility if there is a remote situation that might need a strategic placement.
At some point, I would imagine Americans are going to be on the ground in Iran helping them
extract their oil and get their economy back in place. But I'm pretty certain also that the US
will insist that they pay for their own liberation. I can see two scenarios where there might
be a necessity for some boots on the ground. And I know that goes against the Trump doctrine
and what he's done up to up to this point with the exception of Maduro and Venezuela.
Number one, if there is a risk that the 460 kilograms of 60% enriched uranium,
which can be turned into weapons grade 90% enrichment in just seven to 10 days.
If there is a chance that could fall into the wrong hands, I could see American involvement
at a deeper level. Also, the question of Carg Island, which is the lifeblood of the entire
Iranian economy. Yeah, so from just a couple of weeks past, you're an idiot if you think it will
happen under any circumstances. What part of no new wars didn't you understand when Trump said it?
To maybe a couple little things and then know it actually would be awesome if we were to take
Carg Island really just steal their territory. Just park a couple thousand American troops down in
drone and missile range because we want the oil and all that stuff. Also, we need to after we
obliterated their nuclear program last year and then we double obliterated it this year.
As long as there is any uranium in that country, in one week they can have a bomb. No matter
how obliterated they are, multiple layers of obliteration. And so that is how you shift those
goalposts, that is how you try to get your audience to sign up for boots on the ground. Carg Island,
maybe the coast, Ben Shapiro said they can't be allowed to control the straight-of-formuse.
It's off their coast, it's theirs. What are you gonna move Iran? How is that supposed to work?
Is he talking about a permanent deployment of what US naval assets in the straight-of-formuse
to stop them from ever firing on it again? It's madness. Or maybe we could take it with our
ground troops and then hand it over to Israel as another buffer zone. Yeah. And where we'd save
where the Israelis occupy it and settle it. Anyways, let's hope they don't go there. Okay,
so guys have a unique perspective on this because I already went to this movie. Over 20 years ago
in the Iraq war, we were on air, young turkish soldiers showing online history. And in the old days,
the difference was that we would play those same exact clips from Hannity about the Iraq war.
And everyone else would gaslight us and go, nope, he's right, you're wrong. They didn't say that
it was gonna be easy. I'm like, you're on tape saying it's going to be easy. And with Iraq,
they said the same exact thing. It'll take a couple of weeks. One guy said it'll only cost 1.2
billion dollars to whole operation. Now, this war is causing us 1 billion a day, 1 to 2 billion a day.
Okay, so it's the same exact script. Oh, fake weapons of mass destruction, etc. And it's the same
pro-Israel group that is telling us, including Fox News, Murdoch is a giant Israel first guy.
All of his publications, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Fox News, all like war, war, Israel, Israel,
Israel, right? And so, and by the way, again, guys, this isn't about religion.
We're pro-Burdoch's not Jewish. I don't know why he loves war so much and why he's so indebted
to Israel, right? But he's been pushing this for over 20 years now. America must go to war for
Israel, right? So that's why you're seeing the clips from Hannity. But John made a great point,
what about Hannity and Shapiro? So they not only start out with like, it's going to be easy to,
well, I'm stupid if you think we're going to put in ground troops to, you're stupid if you think
we're not going to put in ground troops. How are we going to wait without ground troops? You idiots,
right? Wait, why are you yelling at me, right? Meaning the American people. And calling us idiots
unless we agree to your agenda. And which one is it? Because both of you Shapiro and Hannity
just said that if you think we're going to put in ground troops, you're an idiot and a moron.
Now you're both saying we should put in ground troops. So I guess you're an idiot and a moron.
But of course they're not. It's a second option. Shapiro said moron or liar. So Shapiro is a
giant liar. He's been a liar from day one. And you want to have a liar? I mean,
he's not going to be able to take the championship belt away from Sean Hannity. That guy has been
plaguing us our whole lives. It's steady stream of propaganda.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right. And then every once in a while when the Democrats are in charge of,
I'm an anti war. Are you? I'd never seen anyone more pro war in my life than Sean
effing Hannity, right? So and Lindsey Graham. Yeah. And did you notice last thing?
Shapiro was saying like, it bogged this my mind why anybody would say endless war.
Month later, he's like, it needs to be an endless war. I mean, 20 years of Afghanistan didn't do it.
Vietnam, we stay too short. We do, it's gotta be endless. You're either a liar or a moron.
If you don't want an endless war, no, no, no, no. You're an American if you don't want endless war.
You're an Israeli if you do want an endless war. And for America to pay that price for you
in treasure and blood, Israel doesn't want to spare any of their soldiers.
The government. Yeah, well, also the people, let's be honest, they 82% wanted this war,
the war with Iran, the Israeli population. And they're like, okay, good, you want to fight it?
They're like, no, that's why we have to suck our Americans. You're going to have Shapiro and
Hannity and everybody lie to them. And we're going to trick them into another war. And in that way,
we could stay under iron dome and be totally fine that you suckers paid for. And then we're
going to push you into the meat grinder, which is exactly what they're doing.
Yeah, let's talk about that meat grinder actually. And by the way, by the way,
you know, Sean Hannity, he's obviously, he's an older guy, bench for his young, I'm pretty sure
he's younger than me. They just raised the age of enlistment. If you love this war so much,
grab a rifle, stand a post. You can join up. You can go participate in this war that you think
is so goddamn noble and so goddamn necessary. You can go participate in this right now.
Why is it that you think that you should sit in your air conditioned studio and tell other people
to go overseas and die and to send their kids overseas and die? Why are you so goddamn ready to
tell people that you will never meet that they should die for a thing that you can barely articulate?
In any event, a lot of people are already being sent over. In addition to, let's see, we had
thousands of Marines. We had the 82nd went over, so we had paratroopers. Now they're talking about
potentially sending an additional 10,000 troops to the Middle East. So 5,000 Marines,
thousands of paratroopers. Nancy Mace implied that the administration, she went to a briefing,
came out and said that she was even more sure that they were going to do boots on the ground.
And she was even more against it based on what they had said about how that might go.
She was already 100% against it. Now she's more against it because of how they might be used.
And Mike Johnson wasn't happy about that. Take a look.
Congresswoman Nancy Mace came out of a classified briefing and seemed to reveal some of what was
reportedly discussed about possible ground operations in Iran. There's people who ask,
why should the administration brief Congress when Congress can't keep a secret? Are there any
punishments for Congresswoman Mace in this instance? Well, it is not lawful to leak classified
information. I'm not suggesting that's what Nancy did there, but it is a problem. I mean,
we had a big briefing for all House members in the Congressional Auditorium and it's a
lower level of classification because some of these things are so sensitive and there
is a breach of trust here. And that's a problem for the institution and something we need to
address in the long run because we've got to get back to these. The secrecy is important at
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This is real quick. So two parts of that. Number one, there is no one that works at Fox News.
It's just Super Murdoch, right? Murdoch hires them and pays 5 million a year, 20 million a year,
40 million a year, right? And he goes, you are to say these exact things. So there is no news going
on at Fox News, okay? And Murdoch always wants war. So if Nancy Mase is going to be a gas war,
Brett Baer is going to come out and go, now shouldn't she be punished for saying something that might
prevent the ground troops punish her, right? Now, if she had come out and been in
leaked something which she didn't do, but had done the same exact thing, but said she was in favor
of the ground troops, Brett Baer would not have asked that question. He would have been very positive.
As you see Nancy Mase is saying, we need ground troops. Don't we need ground troops, Mike Johnson?
Don't we need to start this war? Did I do it well, Rupert? Did I do it well, okay? So
that's, the game is being played on you. And the good news is now there's online media,
so they can't play the game nearly as well. So they're not punishing her because she might have
revealed something. They're trying to punish her because without her, by the way, this is really
important. They don't have enough votes for the war powers resolution. And as we explained to
you on yesterday's show, that's why the traitor Democrats are not pushing the war powers resolution
vote because they would win it right now and it would end the war. They don't want to win.
And they don't want it. And that's why I talk about the Iraq war guys because these days are
actually believe it or not better. A lot of the American people are totally against this war and
there's online media that lets you know about this hypocrisy and that breaks this stuff down.
Back then it was the young Turks and Amy Goodman screaming into the abyss and CNN would come
in backup Sean Hannity. And New York Times ago, yeah, what is a mass destruction? Musco to war for
Israel. No, no, no, wipe that out, wipe that out. Musco to war for America, right? And no
matter how much you showed their hypocrisy, they said, I don't know, radicals that don't want war
and think it won't be easy, right? So these are all tried and true tactics. But I don't want you to
lose track of the fact that we're busting them up, right? So now there's a whole new paradigm
where nobody believes this BS unless you're like a boom or watching Fox News and you're like
98 and you're like, yeah, I think we wanted war. Didn't we wait for what? Because Israel's a special
ally and they love Jesus or something, right? Well, so in terms of the troops, so now they're
considering 10,000 more troops. We keep getting to leaks from the White House, Trump statements,
all victories on the precipice. We can, we can close this thing down really fast.
The Ben Shapiro, I loved his little bait where he was like, whoa, I mean, we can't, there's no way
to end it. We can't just leave. That's exactly what we could do. We could turn around and leave
right now. It'd be super simple to do that. But he doesn't want that to happen. And news just came
out right before we did the show, Marco Rubio is now telling our allies four to six more weeks.
That was the entire original duration. And remember they've sent out and all throughout
Hegsith would come out and go, we're ahead of schedule. I just go so quick. We're so ahead of,
you said three to four weeks in the beginning, Trump said then he went to four to five, we said I
went to four to six weeks. And now we're adding another four to six weeks. God help us if we were
behind schedule. This is when we're ahead of schedule. So wait, if we're ahead of schedule,
then you were lying in the beginning, right? Yeah, or you're incompetent. And also,
if people like Ben Shapiro are saying, well, we can't just leave because then they'll have
the strain of hormones, the geographical formation right next to their country or whatever.
We could never see it coming that they would control that. What are they going to be saying
when we land 10,000 troops, 75 of them die, or 113 of them die.
I know exactly.
Or 100 die. Well, we obviously can't leave now.
Of course, that's what they're going to say. So guys, understand how the trap is being laid,
right? So number one, when you look at their, we told you easy, easy,
oh, well, we got to stay a little longer, but to have patience, right? And then,
oh my god, they killed our guys, can you believe it? So look, in terms of what is our goals,
they can't even define a single goal that we have in this war. So that's why they keep talking
in generalities because there is somebody who has a goal in this war and that's Israel,
it's a regime change. But we said we did not sign up for regime change. So we're totally
goalless. Like, we say, oh, destroy their navy, we did, destroy their Air Force, we did,
destroy their nuclear facilities, we did, destroy the leaders in the regime.
We killed all 49 of them and then we added more and more bodies to that death count.
So then what else is left to do except wait, Israel's next instructions.
And that is literally what we're doing here. And so the idea that once the guys die,
like Ben Shapiro is Sean Hannity are going to turn around and go, oh, wait, we didn't know that
we were going to use ground troops. And we didn't know that they were going to die. No,
we should come home, right? Of course they're not going to do that. What they're going to do,
and I guarantee it is a down to evil, evil, Iranians, for no reason at all, kill their troops that
happen to land on their territory. And now that they've killed 12 of them, 120 of them, that's it.
We got to stay longer than Vietnam and Afghanistan combined, right? This isn't about Israel,
not at all. Americans are dead. I mean, you know, when Americans die, which by the way,
they already have 13 dead. Do you know who you should blame? 100% Israel. They're the ones who
drove us into this war. No doubt about it. Not one, Joe Ken sent it again, last line in the interview.
There's no question. We have no objectives in this war. It's just our politicians who are
disgustingly corrupt. And so much of our mainstream media that is disgustingly corrupt,
that is driving us into the war for a different country. We have no interest in it at all.
And to John's point, we can't leave. They closed the straight of Hormuz. Yeah, here's how you
did deal you make. It's the easiest thing in the world. Hey, Iran, we're going to leave. You're
only going to have Israel to deal with. Don't attack the Gulf countries that are our allies. Don't
attack us. And reopen the straight of Hormuz. And then you and Israel figure it out. Iran would take
that deal in a second. Yeah. Okay, we can make that deal and we can leave. The only people that
are bothered by that deal are the Israelis. Good. I want them bothered. They already cost us
13 dead Americans. They're planning to cost us hundreds more dead Americans all on behalf of a
foreign government that is fascist. And oh, we'd like to build our, as Netanyahu just said like a
week ago, we could become a regional or global superpower after this war. Why is it our responsibility
to make a fascist state a global superpower? So this is disgusting. Has nothing to do with America.
And they're going to get those poor guys killed. And once they do here, we'll guarantee it now
and then we'll play you the clip afterwards. They'll say, well, now that the Americans are dead
and more and more of them, you have to fight Iran longer. Yep.
100%. Okay, well, let's talk about, we're going to take a break. But then when we come back,
we're going to talk about the fact that more and more people who might have previously been okay
with some of this are starting to peel off. We're going to track that up for this.
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All right, John, what's next?
Okay, let's jump into something fun.
Well, if that's like, I don't know, my position is always like if you're saying
if not supporting covering up the Epstein files or not supporting a stupid war of choice,
a war of aggression on behalf of Israel means I'm not MAGA, then okay, I'm not MAGA.
I'm not attached to the phrase make America great again. I don't care.
Then put that phrase sucks. Here's the thing. First of all, America is great.
Let me make America greater. I'm down. But make America great again and then it becomes a movement
of a bunch of dorks because a lot of them are dorks.
Like that. And now you have the podcasters and the comedians firing back there had Joe Rogan
and Dave Smith saying that the phrase kind of sucks and it's I guess something that's
hunt closely by dorks, I guess in their words or whatever. But it's certainly an interesting
thing as the polling is developed, as we've now moved through as Dave Smith pointed out,
the whole Epstein debacle, the tariffs and all that. Now the war,
Jake, what are your two cents?
Yeah, so there's two different issues here guys. So number one is the fact that these podcasters
that have huge audiences are against the war and now against MAGA,
that's an enormous turn of events, right? So number two is look, this isn't about who's right or
wrong. It's about what's the right thing to do going into the future. So if you thought the
right strategy was call every Trump voter or anyone who talked to Trump or anyone racist fascists,
Nazi, we hate them and we'll always hate them and we should hate them forever.
You're turning away voters who are independents and actually are naturally aligned
with our side. Their anti-war, they actually want to serve American voters. I'm not talking
about the cult of MAGA, even they're going to tell you there is a cult of MAGA, right?
But it's on the outer edge or maybe a half or I don't know what the numbers are,
but sure a big number of the Trump voters. But there's also a giant number of Trump voters who are
independents like Dave Smith and apparently Joe Rogan as well who are like, well, you're not my uncle.
I didn't sign up to be have you as my daddy for the rest of my life, right? I just care if you
agree with me. And Trump is, and why were we against Trump? Because Trump doesn't actually believe
any of that stuff. And we couldn't get Rogan to understand that back then. And if you're frustrated
with him, I get it. Of course, right? But at the same time now that they're coming in our direction,
let's take guess for an answer. Yeah. And I am still one of those who is frustrated, but I hear what
you're saying. And how we define these things is something that's being fought not just in the media,
but also in like in Trump circles. So one of Donald Trump's top goons, Steven Miller.
He attempted to sort of redefine at this late date what America first means saying,
America first means America will be the greatest, most unquestioned, unmatched power in the world.
And it means we will defend American lives. And yes, we will avenge American blood. You know,
the blood that died because we started this war. Like we put them out there to die now they're dead.
Now we get to avenge them. Isn't that a cool little circular thing that we've got going on?
And yeah, America first doesn't mean focusing on Americans. And it doesn't mean focusing on what
happens here. It means vague abstract international power. I feel like I missed those Trump commercials
in 2024. We're that they're defining it that way now. And by the way, if you have fallen off
of MAGA or have started to distance yourself from Donald Trump, because for instance you think
that the Epstein Finals are being covered up because they are or because you don't support the war
because you didn't support the war before. Then I don't know, I think it's very natural to
define yourself differently. That said, those who still call themselves MAGA, it really feels like
there's been an ongoing purification process where it used to be a mix of people who just really
liked Donald Trump. And then there were people who believed a certain set of policies or a vague
ideology. And I think a lot of those people have woken up to the fact that that was never actually
a serious part of it. It was always going to be whatever Donald Trump said it was on any given day.
And there is a certain percentage of the population 25 to 32% of America who are ready to follow him
anywhere he goes, directly contradictory positions inside of the span of one sentence.
But there were other people who thought he meant something and they're learning that that is not
the case. And I want to turn now to one of the polls about, I think this Donald Trump
so happy that he's got MAGA support. We'll define what that means right now.
Is Trump losing MAGA support? The poll was 100%. And you know, their poll series got a lot of
energy and he's pretty good. He probably won't have a job very long, but he said, whoa, whoa.
It was 100% of the people, the MAGA people, which is mostly, I think MAGA is almost the whole
Republican party you want to know the truth. They did a poll at CNN two days ago.
And I think you probably saw it. Maybe you put it on, but it was 100% support. So it's wrong.
And we have people that are weak or stupid or low IQ people that don't mind having a red
having nuclear weapon. The MAGA people are smart. Now that doesn't mean they want us over there for
like Bush for years, you know, just for years. I always said, don't go into Iraq. But if you do,
keep the oil. Okay, so it's fascinating to watch the five there where every one of those people,
the conservatives and the liberal are bored out of their minds at Donald Trump as he rambles.
And know that he's lying about the polls. Now there he referenced Harrington though,
the 100% support in MAGA thing. And notice he also fit in a little comment about how
Harrington's going to be fired soon. Making it very clear that the bid to have CNN be bought out
by his ideological allies is to weed out anyone who mildly inconveniences him. It's feeling very
Hungarian up in here all of a sudden. But he is right that they found that poll that said that 100
percent of MAGA supports him. But even as Harrington has since pointed out, that's just circular
definition. That's just the people who still call themselves MAGA are the people who will follow
Donald Trump no matter what he believes. It doesn't really mean anything and certainly not
what Donald Trump applies it means. Yeah, so we broke this down on an earlier show. And so
it's basically they ask people, do you still support Trump? And they're like, yes, I still call
myself MAGA and I support Trump. Then they said, okay, great, now we're ready for the poll. Do you
support Trump? They're like, I just told you I support Trump, yes, like good, 100%. Yeah.
Okay, I actually think I'm a little conspiratorial on this. I think that they frame those questions in
a way to be pro-war, right? So they want Trump to think that he's holding his entire base.
And there is no rebellion. Don't look online. Don't listen to Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly.
And all of the most popular right wing hosts in the country, 100% support, right?
But why do I say that? When they ask the similar questions about the economy,
they don't frame it that way. And then you see that he's lost a lot of support
even among his base. And then so when they ask in that same poll, okay, if you don't call
yourselves MAGA to this day, right? Meaning you aren't dissolution, like the people who aren't
calling themselves MAGA anymore are dissolution, right? So in that bucket and the people who never
call themselves MAGA instead of the independents who voted for Trump, you ask them. And they're like
only 61% are in favor. So he's lost four out of 10 of them, which is a giant number,
and enough to swing any election. Yeah, and we know that overall inside of Foxy's polling,
which he badmouthed to the five, and not one of those people, all of whom know that the polls
are accurate, defended their own company's polls there. They just sat there and took it,
including when he was insulting Jessica Tarlov, Greg Gutfeld, Jesse Waters, just sat there,
and let this A-hole insult their colleague to their face with lies because they're not men.
But anyway, yeah, it doesn't mean we know that the approval for the war early on was bad. It has
since gone down, it's gone down even amongst non-MAGA Republicans. And his level of support inside
of MAGA is so much less important than what percentage of Republicans consider themselves to be
MAGA. That is by far a more important story because that is the story of how he has been losing
support among core groups throughout his presidency. I'm sure that you guys talked about the thing
about men, including young men that are dropping off from supporting him. That is the story of
the Trump presidency as he's lost black voters and lost Latino voters and lost men and lost
independence. That's the story of the polling, I think.
So guys, Trump barely, barely, barely won the election in 2016 when he held
the 93% of Republican voters. Like the Chuck Schumer strategy and Hillary Clinton was,
we're gonna get Republicans in the suburbs. That's always their strategy, right? And they didn't get
them, right? And so Trump got 93%. So when he's at 61% of his own voters that are no longer MAGA,
right? Which is a big number of his voters. Okay, now he's in a world of trouble because we're not
if he slipped a 92% he would have lost the election. That's why I want you to get a sense of the
scale of the damage that has been done politically to these guys. Now another way of looking at
being able to tell that is how much Rogan, Tim Poole and others have turned on him. And I think
Tim Poole in that sense is maybe even more indicative. Rogan weighed bigger, but Tim Poole,
I would argue even though he comically says no all the time, is more right wing, right?
He held out longer. Yeah, yeah. So let's give you more, Rogan.
There are absolutely these MAGA dorks where it's like no matter what Trump does, there's just never
make America great again. And then it becomes a movement of a bunch of dorks because a lot of
them are dorks. A lot of them, these really weird, uninteresting unintelligent people that have
got something they cling to. And there's a lot of people that are just real genuine patriots.
And they're all lumped into this one group. And you got to accept the dorks too.
That the concept of making America great is a great idea. But as soon as you have a team and
you allow anybody to join up, you don't even have tryouts for your team. So you've got a bunch of
that are running around spouting out opinions and you have to go along with them because they're MAGA.
And then you've got bots online that are probably from Indonesia or Russia or wherever. And
they're pretending they're MAGA and they're saying crazy. So that's a part of MAGA too. You've
stopped by becoming a part of a group. Whether it's a Republican group, a Democrat group,
a MAGA group, a woke group, whatever it is, you f***** up by being in a group.
And John, I think that that's an enormous development, not just in terms of, like Rogan is saying this.
You know, I mean, by far the biggest political group in this country now is independence.
And no one in mainstream media ever talks about that. We're still talking about Democrats
and Republicans. But their independence not only have past Democrats and Republicans,
they're starting to dwarf them, right? And no one is addressing that group. And it's so easy to
win them over. Just do what we stand for. We're already, and when I say we, I mean populace left.
But really, the populace agree on so many things. So there's plenty that we disagree on.
But if you gave them no war actually serving American voters instead of the donor class,
that's it. Just those two, you'd already win in a landslide. Please, let's go get those voters
instead of constantly insulting them. Now this is how deep it's going on. Now it's
gone to even Tim Poole. Let's watch.
They're absolutely these mega dorks where it's like no matter what Trump does,
there's just never any critical thought. It's true. And they were genuine patriots.
Many of them are my friends. They don't blindly march and lock stuff with Trump. They're critical
thinkers. And they are explaining why they think this is the right path. And those people,
like Jack Pasobak, great example, good guy, good friend, intelligent, reasoned, and will explain
to you why he supports Trump with facts and logic. But then there are these like dork accounts.
I don't know if dork is the right word, but they meme blast. They seem to contradict themselves
because the only thing that matters is I'm aligned with Trump. It's first ordered thinking.
And that is what the left will latch on to to attack conservatives and Trump supporters.
Joe's not wrong on this.
Yeah, look guys, again, great development. Things are not binary. I also want to give you a note of
caution here. This is the most important thing, please. So he says, oh, Jack Pasobak is great and
logical. No, he's not, okay? So Pasobak is deeply problematic. Okay, he's the guy who did pizza
gate, etc. We have a million disagreements with him. And I don't necessarily believe that he's
genuine. So that, okay. So I don't want you to panic. The next time you see a Tim Poole clip
or a Joe Rogan clip that you don't agree with, and you go, what? I thought they were Democrats
though. They never said that. They never said, I thought they were going to agree with everything
about it. No, guys, they're saying the exact opposite. There's no one agrees 100% on anything.
So you like some on the left thought, no, every Trump voters agrees with Trump 100%.
Now you're seeing with your own eyes definitively empirically, not the case. And that is Rogan
talking to millions of his viewers, let alone pool and Dave Smith and so many others talking
their viewers going, do not believe Trump 100%. But we also have to do the same. We can't just go
and be like, no, the most extreme left wing position, 100% otherwise you're driven from the party.
Well, if you do that, then the independence are going to go, okay, so these guys are also
unreasonable. So I don't know, let's go somewhere else. Invite them in. They're super important
anti-war allies, okay? So that doesn't mean that you go, okay, I'd like Tim Poole to be the next
president. Nobody's voting on Tim Poole. Nobody's voting on Joe Rogan, right? Meaning like putting
them in charge, it is not binary. Let's go find allies to win on important issues that affect
all of us. Does that make sense? Yeah, sorry. If I was smiling while you're saying that, it wasn't
about that. I agree with what you're saying. It was the transition from Joe Rogan, you know,
muscular, UFC Joe Rogan. These are dorks, this is bro energy. And then Tim Poole being like,
yeah, they're dorks. They're like, they're memes, you're dorks. And I'm like, dude, you're not Joe
Rogan. Like you may agree with them. You haven't put at the hours in the gym like Joe Rogan,
but anyway, that was just the small thing that caught me. Or hours at the buffet like me.
Both time well spent. Couldn't agree more. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back,
more from our failed state, John's got a great story about awards that Donald Trump has won.
He's won awards, you know that. We'll be back.
All right, back on T-O-I-T, Jake and John with you guys. And guys, remember, if you're a
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Awesome. Okay, let's jump into what's going on in DC.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You and John Thuner are not on the same page. You came out and
criticized Democrats. He was the engineer behind it. It's why are you guys not on the stage?
And are you not extending the shutdown if you were to accept what the Senate had passed?
This could in tonight and the TSA lines would shrink. I wouldn't call John Thun the engineer of
this. Chuck Schumer and the Democrats in the Senate. Chuck Schumer and the Democrats in the Senate
have forced this upon the Senate. So the longest, at least partial government shutdown in history
shows no signs of stopping it. Really look like this morning it might be ending soon because
regardless of what little Mike Johnson might want to say, Republicans joined with Democrats
to finally do a funding bill that would fund DHS excluding ICE and border patrol. So the TSA
would be paid. Mike Johnson had the chance to take up the same thing, pass it, get it before Donald
Trump, get the TSA paid and he is deciding not to do that. House Republicans are going to be
opposing the measure, which means we're right back where we're at before the deal.
Did she send strength?
Yeah, so I think the Republicans misunderstand how Congress works. So you need democratic votes
for a bill, then you have to work with the Democrats to find a compromise and a solution.
They think no, they should just do whatever we tell them to do, not how things work.
And John was frustrating to me and we'll talk more about it after you give us the facts,
is that the media seems to also not understand.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Yeah, like what's complicated about you need their votes so you have to compromise.
Exactly, yeah, and they did compromise. We actually saw it right there. And by the way,
not unlike if I were to write the list of reforms to ICE, it would not be what they voted on.
This is very reasonable. This does not go far. It's not abolishing ICE or anything like that.
And also by the way, the idea that this is the Democrats are stopping TSA for being paid.
Bye bye to that. We're done with that now. It was stupid before, but now it's utterly
ridiculous. The Democrats just approved a plan with the Republicans. It is Mike Johnson.
And Donald Trump, who of course behind the scenes is telling him to oppose this.
They are the ones that are forcing TSA to continue to not be paid. So rather than putting
forward the same bill, what Mike Johnson is going to do is he is going to tee up a vote on a bill
that would fund all of DHS for eight weeks, which he knows is not what the Senate has already done.
So that's utterly pointless. He's not doing that because he thinks it can work. He's
doing that because that's apparently what Donald Trump wants. And Mike Johnson is not a leader.
He's not a man. He does what Donald Trump tells him to do. And so that's what he's doing here.
Now in response to that possibility, Chuck Schumer said,
a 60 day continuing resolution that locks in the status quo is dead on arrival in the Senate.
And Republicans know it. We've been clear from day one. Democrats will fund critical
homeland security functions, but we will not give a blank check to Trump's lawless and deadly
immigration militia without reforms. That's actually stronger language than I've come to expect
from Chuck Schumer. I kind of like that. He said, or you should keep in mind,
ICE and CBP still have roughly $75 billion in cash from Trump's big beautiful bill,
given the agencies a buffer for a time. Because of course they have been better funded than most
of the world's militaries for some reason that will never make sense to me. But while they have
money to waste on whatever they want, TSA doesn't. They're the ones that are actually suffering.
Now, as all of this is going on in legislature, Donald Trump thinks he potentially has a solution
as he is want to do, doesn't involve the representative bodies. Here is to talk about that.
President made this announcement is that likely these funds are going to come from that sweeping
legislation that the president signed into law last summer, the one big beautiful bill.
And so it remains to be seen exactly how that's going to shake out. It's not finalized yet.
And what we're told tonight is that senior staff are actually still working through what this
is actually going to, how this is actually going to happen in order to get these TSA workers paid.
But the people I've spoken with sound pretty confident that it will actually work,
that this is a viable solution here.
There was a stimulus that we were going to get from all the tariff money that was coming in,
that never came. We'll see, maybe TSA will be paid. But what doesn't seem likely to happen is
that they get paid by this weekend. That's when the next check is supposed to go out.
We've already had a lot of TSA quitting very understandably. After weeks of working without pay,
they're about to be asked to forego another paycheck. So even if this plan works,
it's probably not going to work very quickly.
Yeah, I mean, he's a guy who stiffed all of his creditors in the past over and over again,
he stiffs his employees, he stiffs everyone. The only thing he sent in the mail was his ballot,
ironically. After he called it, this is cheating voting. And he's like, watch me cheat in vote.
And he sends it in through the mail. It's unbelievable. So to be a little bit more
accurate, it wasn't just Trump behind the scene saying that he's against this. After it failed,
he came out and said, not appropriate. This vote in the Senate, not appropriate.
No compromise. Me what, whatever, me wants. Okay. Yeah, but bro, you're not a dictator. We have
a government and it has three branches. And I, you know, someone should remind him of this.
I'm not even sure he knows. Congress passes the laws. Then it's your job to sign them or not
sign them. You have plenty of power, huge power, but you don't have you no lateral power.
Right? Yeah. So so much to remind Mike Johnson as well. Yeah.
But you keep going, you keep shutting it down, keep making everybody angry at the airports,
keeps screwing over workers. But, you know, and to be fair, they don't have any money because
we're spending one to two billion dollars a day on Israel's war. Yeah. So I mean, we have some
priorities. Israel must be satisfied, but you just wait in the airlines and then or just drive
and bankrupt yourself with the gas fee. So please, you didn't donate to Donald Trump or Mike Johnson.
Yeah. Oh right, the Israeli lobby is the number one donor for both of them. What are coincidences?
Yeah, and by the way, just as we finish, just to be very clear, the Senate deal doesn't even
do with the ice reforms that the Dems want. It just allows the rest of DHS to function while
that debate continues. It's not even giving the Democrats really anything. It's giving the TSA
something. That seems to be the thing that bothers Donald Trump and Mike Johnson so much.
But that's what I can't stand about extremists. No, it has to be one hundred percent what I want.
If it's who varies one centimeter from what I want, that's it. I'm breaking all my toys.
I'm breaking all your toys. I'm breaking everything, right? And no, just all right. Okay,
well, we're not going to get anything done that way. Yeah. Like, look guys, we're the ones who
constantly say don't do BS compromises where, oh, golly gee, there's a corporate Democrat and a corporate
Republican. They agreed to give tax cuts to their donors, right? That's a BS compromise.
Hey, ice is killing people in the streets. Can we have a tiny bit of restraint?
Is not a BS compromise. That's a rational compromise. Yeah, exactly. Do you want to do
this last story really? Yeah. Okay, let's have a little bit of fun.
The president has done so much for the American people and we want to honor him in some small
way, some token of our appreciation for his leadership. And so tonight we have created a new award.
It is our honor on behalf of all House Republicans, all of you here and all patriots across the country
present the very first America first award to the 45th and the 47th president of the United
States, Donald J Trump. Yeah, if you thought that Republicans had maxed out on ass kissing,
Donald Trump, Mike Johnson, he stayed up late last night. He figured out a new way that they
can do it. They've created yet another gold trophy to give to Donald Trump. Oh boy, has he participated
and he's going to get recognition for it. But that's not it. They're also going to be adding his
signature to all US currency because if he goes two seconds without seeing his name or face on
something, he will lose it. Jank, what are your two cents? Yeah, so I think they've gone from
kissing to eating, to be honest. So does Donnie want an award?
This is wonderfully humiliating. Donnie, hello to the child. We got you another award.
Hey, look, it's a beautiful glass that says noble, noble like our sponsor. But it's an award, Donald.
Okay, okay, see guys, Mike Johnson's an ask us or whatever, like that's clear. Everybody gets it.
Every grown-up gets it. But what's 10,000 times more pathetic is that it works.
The Donald Trump is like, yeah, I went in a word. Hey, hey, Melania, never mind. I went in a
award, Lindsay and Steven Miller and anyone who will listen to me.
So embarrassing. Okay, well, let's participate in a little bit more of the embarrassment.
But we wanted to do one thing before we bring the president out to the stage because of his
accomplishments and because of his willingness to work literally around the clock to fix every
issue that has faced this country to change the global partnerships to make America strong again
on the world stage to solve all the domestic problems that we are facing in this country.
The president has done so much for the American people and we want to honor him in some small
ways, some token of our appreciation for his leadership. And so tonight we have created a new award.
We have, we're going to do something we've never done before. We're going to honor him with a new
award that we'll present annually from this point forward. But he is the suitable and fitting
recipient of the first ever America first award. We could think of no better title for what that is.
That's this beautiful golden statue here.
Yeah, we could think of no better title because we didn't really try because what's the difference?
He'll accept anything we give him. And so they gave him a golden eagle. It's a great, great honor.
And if you would like that great, great honor, people found it online. It's less than $70.
They're so online. So embarrassing. Oh, you goofess. Wake up. They have no respect for you,
Donald Trump. Nobody respects you. And by the way, really fast on the whole working around the
clock thing, it's what our mind everyone. And I'm a fan of golf, by the way, but not nearly as much
of a fan as Donald Trump. He has spent at least 102 days verified playing golf. He's only been
president for a little bit over one year. He spent a quarter of his presidency at his golf courses.
And so I think not all the way around the clock. Maybe he's gotten through around like half of it at
this point. John could have been worse. They got him a golden eagle. They were thinking golden calf.
It's a little on the nose. A little bit. Yeah. Okay. And I like how they named it America first
award. Their first title they had was not Israel first award. No, really, really not Israel first
award. Okay. Okay. Sure, buddy. Sure. Yeah, it's just it's so embarrassing. And I think we're
running out of time. So I'm going to jump ahead to the other embarrassing thing. Donald Trump
has insisted that his name be put on literally everything centers and all sorts of stuff.
Now it's going to be on stuff that you might have to carry around with you because the Treasury
has announced that they are going to be adding his signature to every piece of US currency
beginning later this year. Because it's America's 250th birthday.
Why do you have to do that? Because it's the student. I don't know. They're just saying that as
if it's a reason. Scott Bessent says there is no more powerful way to recognize the historic
achievements of our great country. And President Donald J. Trump, the US dollar bills bearing his name.
And it is only appropriate that the historic currency be issued at the semi-quinsentennial.
And so he is as you might suspect the first sitting US president ever to have their name on currency
because notably no other president has asked for it because they're not that utterly pathetic.
In the past, it would have had the Treasury Secretary and another person working at the
Treasury. Their signatures are on there. They're taking off one of those. The guys whose name is
being taken off. He thinks it's awesome. He loves that his name is going to be there so that the
little baby boy can have his name instead. This Brandon Beach US Treasurer says the president's
mark on history as the architect of America's golden age economic revival is undeniable.
Printing his signature on the American currency is not only appropriate, but also well deserved.
And it is a true golden age. We even have the eagles to prove it. But I don't know. Last year we
had almost net no job growth. Inflation is spiking. Gas is way more expensive. He's doing his
tariffs. That's eating into our economy. The stock market's down massively from the beginning of
the year. It's like 10% lower than it was like two months ago. What exactly is the golden age supposed
to mean to regular people? I don't know. But if you use cash, you might soon have to have Donald
Trump's stupid signature on your money. So to give you a sense of how damaging his
narcissism is and I'm wanting to see his name. So back in 2016 when he was running,
we did a lot of research on his businesses. And so I always wondered because I grew up in New Jersey,
why did he do three casinos in Atlantic City? That doesn't make any sense. Any one with any
sense let alone if you went to business school or whatever knows that your business
are going to cannibalize one another and hurt each other. And then I found out, oh my god,
for Taj Mahal the last one, he got a 14% interest rate, which is gigantic, right? And very, very hard
to be able to keep up with. And especially when you're cannibalizing your other business. So we
did a lot of research and we found out there was an executive who explained why he did it.
It's from his own company. Okay. He liked to see his name on buildings. So when he drove
over on Atlantic City, he wanted to see Trump, Trump, Trump. In case you don't know, all three went
bankrupt. I mean, what a child, what an unbelievable child that we've put into office is the most
powerful man on earth. It's maddening. And then finally, if all this wasn't enough,
it's not just that he wants to win awards. He doesn't want anyone else to win an award.
So Bill Mar who I'm not a big fan of, but he did actually get the award Mark Twain Prize
for American humor. It's going to be handed out at the Kennedy Center. And Trump's White House
like, no, he didn't. He's not getting an award. And then people like, yeah, but awkward, he definitely
is. It's public. It's not in question. So later, they're like, okay, fine, he is getting an award.
But he only got the award after we said he's not getting one.
And man child, how much damage is he going to do in the next three years? I don't know,
buckle up, brace for impact. Jesus. All right, John, you're awesome. Everybody check out
Damage Report, 1 o'clock Eastern, Monday through Friday. He's worked up today.
Catch it every day in all moods. All right, we got a yes coming up next. A lot more stories
for you guys, including more updates on what's happened in the war. We'll be right back.
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