Roger Stone Jr. joins us at AmFest to talk about what he sees as the biggest threats to the country right now, why internal division is a losing strategy, and what the movement needs to stay focused on moving forward.
We also get into his upcoming book “Bushwacked” (about the attempted Reagan shooting), his thoughts on the “files” controversy, and why he believes loyalty in politics is rarer than people think. He closes with a blunt take on midterms, the economy, and who he thinks should be held accountable.
What You’ll Learn
🧭 Why Roger thinks internal division is the fastest way to lose momentum
📚 What his upcoming book claims about the Reagan attempt
🧩 How he frames the “deep state” / establishment conflict
🗳️ How he’s thinking about midterms and political leverage
🧨 His take on the “files” controversy and why he says nothing surprises him
🧾 Why he points people to “emails” and public records to support claims
🐶 His blunt view on loyalty in politics
📈 Why he expects the economy to look different in the next 12–36 months
🏛️ How he evaluates cabinet picks and execution
⚖️ Who he believes should face accountability (as his opinion)
Chapters (Timestamps)
00:00 – “Stay focused” + his warning about the bigger threat
00:29 – Roger Stone joins at AmFest
00:38 – New book: Bushwacked (attempted Reagan shooting)
01:16 – Reaction to division on the right
01:59 – “Marxism / deep state” + what he thinks is driving it
02:33 – Midterms + succession talk (future leadership)
02:56 – “The files” controversy + what he claims he found
04:17 – Surprise angle: Bannon connection + “read the emails” claim
05:00 – Sponsor break
06:38 – Loyalty in politics + his “get a dog” line
08:10 – “All-star cabinet” + why he’s optimistic
09:26 – Midterms, impeachment talk + his answer
10:20 – Who should be held accountable (his opinion)
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In all honesty, we have a radical Marxist clique that hopes to take control of this country
in a little more than a year, and I really think we need to focus on that.
The turnout here, going from 20,000 to 30,000 young people, that's a testimony to the great work of Charlie Kirk.
We owe it to Charlie to stay focused on the ball, which is saving this country from radical Marxism.
All right guys, here with Roger Stone at Amfess, Roger, it's good to see you again.
Great to be here. Quite the year, huh?
Yes indeed.
Lock on on. What's new with you?
I'm trying to finalize a book on the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan,
because that full story has never been told.
I hope to have that out early in the year.
It's entitled Bushwacht, the real story of the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan.
I'm not familiar with it.
I think you can get the juice of it.
So you're going to expose what actually happened?
Yeah, I mean, John Hinckley Jr. is the accused shooter of Reagan.
He was in front of Reagan at all times shooting upward.
Why then is Reagan shot from above and behind?
I'll prove it in the book.
Nice. And speaking of assassinations, Charlie's assassination has seemed to really divide the right.
What do you think about all the division right now?
It's unhealthy. I mean, the worst part about this is that Charlie's dead. That's the worst part.
I'm not an expert on ballistics.
In all honesty, we have a radical Marxist clique that hopes to take control of this country in a little more than a year.
And I really think we need to focus on that.
So the turnout here, going from 20,000 to 30,000 young people, that's a testimony to the great work of Charlie Kirk.
We owe it to Charlie to stay focused on the ball, which is saving this country from radical Marxism.
Yeah. So you see Marxism as the big issue for the country?
Say again, do you see Marxism as the big issue?
Well, I think that the deep state, if you want to call them that, the permanent unelected political establishment,
which has dominated both parties in America until Donald Trump came along,
they didn't expect them to make the greatest comeback in American political history.
And now they seek to cripple his presidency by getting control of either House of Congress for the last two years of his second term.
And that has to be prevented.
And then we have to work towards making sure that JD Vance follows Donald Trump as president.
And we choose a strong, viable, attractive, vice presidential candidate.
I don't want to mention any names.
I'll see Gabbard.
I'm with you.
I'm with you on that one.
She was one of my favorite guests.
She would be great.
She was bright.
Speaking of issues dividing the right, the files are another issue.
There's new photos being leaked about who's in the files.
Where are you out with all this files?
Nothing here that surprises me.
I wrote a book in 2015 called The Clinton's War on Women.
The longest chapter in the book is on Epstein because I read all of the testimony in the trials of the women who refused to settle and sued Epstein.
So when Bill Clinton says he was not on the island, sorry.
Three eyewitnesses put you on the island under oath and the FAA records.
Flight records show you on the island most of the times.
Show him on the plane 27 times.
Including the time that Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein flew to Brunei to get a million dollar check from the Sultan of Brunei, who's a notorious pedophile.
That is crazy.
Do you think it was mainly a left issue on the Democrats on the island or do you think it was both parties?
With one exception, I looked at the manifests from the FAA.
So you know who flew to the island.
There are no Republicans on that list.
Larry Summers, the Treasury Secretary under Clinton's on the list.
George Mitchell, the U.S. Senate Democrat, a majority leader's on the list.
Governor Bill Richardson in Mexico's on the list.
The surprise to me, of course, is the relationship that we've now learned between the emails that have been released and the photos have been released between Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein is abundantly clear as reported by the New York Post.
That after Bannon was fired by Trump, he becomes a fixture at Epstein's home in New York, visits his apartment in Paris.
And we see from the emails that he was coaching Epstein in his public rehabilitation.
Wow.
We know that there's, I think it's 15 hours of video interviews, which were told therefore a documentary that's never been released.
I believe based on the emails, that that is more...
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Probably a video of practice sessions for an invitation that Epstein had to be on 60 minutes.
That was canceled when he was arrested.
Wow. So Bannon could be a traitor?
I think there's no evidence. The evidence is in the emails.
You don't need to listen to me. Read his own words.
He was coaching Jeffrey Epstein on how to handle questions regarding his abuse of underage children.
That's crazy. And that's someone you've known for a long time, right?
Well, since the 2016 campaign, look, I tried to help Steve Bannon when he became Trump's campaign manager.
He testified before the House Intelligence Committee, same time that I did regarding Russian collusion.
And he was asked, did you ever discuss WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, or these allegedly stolen emails with Roger Stone?
He said, no, never. You can imagine my surprise when he showed up at my trial as Robert Mueller's surprise witness.
And when he asked the exact same question, he said, oh, yeah, I spoke to Stone about it.
In every phone conversation we had in 2016, I considered him our access point to WikiLeaks, all of which is a perjurous lie.
Loyalty seems to be very rare in politics.
Yeah, if you want loyalty in politics, get a dog.
You're the only one who I've studied that over the years, you have the same position. You've never flip-flopped.
Well, look, I saw as early as 1988 that Donald Trump had the size and the gumption and the stamina and the courage and the independence to be not just a great presidential candidate, but to be a truly great president.
And I never wavered in that. I thought it in 1988. I thought it in 2000. I thought it in 2012.
And of course, it manifested itself in 2016.
And he said so many people come in and out. It's like musical chairs, betraying him, talking negatively about him, but you've always been there for him.
But now I think he has an all-star team around him. And this is the best cabinet in American history. Scott Besson, a libertarian, an outside-the-box thinker, a strong supporter of cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, gold, a deep...
And articulate critic of the federal reserve, as well as the federal income tax. That's a great appointment.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., taking on the big farm orthodoxy that has been misleading and lying to the American people for decades.
Tulsi Gabbard, who we discuss, who finally declassifies all the documents that prove that there was a seditious conspiracy at the highest levels of government.
He tried to elicently remove a sitting president. This is an all-star cabinet, including Marco Rubio, who, I mean, he was my senator. I voted for him. I supported him in the Republican Prime Minister's Senate.
But the effectiveness and the efficiency in which he's implemented, not his agenda, Trump's agenda in this hemisphere and across the globe, has been very impressive.
Do you think if the midterms are lost, they're going to try to impeach Trump again?
Well, I try not to answer hypothetical questions, but there's no question that they will try to do that. On the other hand, I don't concede that they will necessarily win the midterm elections.
I think anyone who tells you that that's a certainty doesn't understand the volatility of American politics and politics a week is a lifetime.
The Trump tax cuts, the Trump regulatory cuts, the Trump investment in rare earth minerals, the interest rate cuts that we'll finally get once we get a non-politicized Federal Reserve Board.
Our economy will be much stronger than it is today. It's already strong, but it'll be much stronger than it was today, a year from now, and substantially stronger, three years from now.
Who should be in prison right now, in your opinion, but isn't?
John Brennan. I don't know question whatsoever. He knew that the Steele dossier was a fraud, Andrew Weisman, who had served as the General Counsel of the FBI,
later the de facto head of the Mueller witch hunt. He knew it was a fraud. Mike Pompeo knew it was a fraud, but he knew that we're bothered to tell Donald Trump.
James Comey lied under oath to Congress about whether he instructed people to leak classified documents. That case was dismissed, not on the merits, but because the four judges involved incorrectly said Lindsey Halligan had been appointed the US Attorney.
They're wrong, being peeled, and it will go to the Supreme Court, where she will win. Roger now a matter of principle. Yeah, Roger, thanks for your time. It's always good seeing you. Happy to be here.