Ross Tucker Calls Out Nick Wilson's 8-Win Browns Math

0:00Guys, do you want Ken to guarantee a win for the Cleveland Brown? Yeah, I'm gonna set these. I have their guarantee a win. You, nobody else. You, you, you, you can. We need to hear it. Right now, fuck your old. Let's go. I can't turn down the key. Let's go. I guarantee a win. I guarantee a win. I guarantee they're gonna be the Raiders. I guarantee they're gonna be the Raiders. They didn't beat the Raiders. I don't think they're gonna be the Raiders. Should I remember anything about that game? Oh, it's sick daisy. What? Should I remember anything about that game? How could you forget? I guarantee they beat the Raiders and then they lost. And now a generation of children. If things go the way they're supposed to go, I'll have a generation of kids coming up to me on the West side going, you know, I was in that class years ago. And you guarantee this. That'd be nice. I'm not guaranteeing a victory on Sunday. I'm picking the Browns to win. I have five wins for the season. Lime of UF4.

1:00I pick Sunday is one of the five wins that we have. Four is so few. Yeah, I know. I didn't say it was gonna be a good year. I'm also not saying that this is a totally... Like I yelled about this a couple of weeks ago. It's not all or nothing guys. Like I can be building towards something. And there's been times where they have absolutely built towards nothing. And yet there's a lot of stuff here. But if you would have given up on Watts, and a lot of people would have been happy for the right now, I think we'd be very nervous about the future. Because we're trying to make this a good landing spot for a young QB next year. And I can enjoy some of this this year, though. I know that this year is about next year. But it doesn't mean I can't stop and smell the roses every now and then. And I think that Sunday's the day that we smell the roses. Which is interesting because... I mean, I gotta take aim at somebody else. And I hate to do it because I like him. And I think they're entertaining to me. But when I'm saying five wins and you're saying four wins. And then we're getting accused of negativity. I'm like, well, wait a minute. Who's the one who's ripping Todd munkin' up and down

2:00and asking people if it's a one and done every year or every day. And saying that they don't trust and Todd anymore. It's taking a big hit because of the Watts and stuff. And they can't... They can't think anything of redeeming about the Shawn Watts. And... But somehow they have eight wins. One of the words of them show your work. Well, this issue got brought up with Ross Tucker yesterday. And well, this is where I think we need some people from the fine police officers, the police departments around here to possibly give us a polygraph test to make sure everything's on the up and up because Ross Tucker thinks it's something stinks. I have the Browns at eight and nine. And I have the Steelers at seven and ten at finishing last place in this division. Which one is the hotter take Ross? I do not believe in your heart of hearts that you think the Browns are winning eight games this year. I don't believe you. How do you know my heart? You know what we should do on the show? You don't really get good ratings. Let's bring in a retired FBI guy or a cop

3:02and have them bring in a polygraph, a lie detector. And lie it since you got a lot of time to do it. Ross, I'm telling you now... Nick Nick with the video... He passed with flying colors. He's a flying color. He's a video to social media. So your social media can go viral. That would go viral. You saying on the air that you truly believe with all your heart the Browns are going to win eight games while you're taking a polygraph. That I will watch. If you were asked to justify it during it, you couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. I mean, who's been asked your towards the Browns here over the last couple of months? Is it been me or Nick? I don't think you've been nasty. So you think Nick has been nastier. Yeah. Okay. How does he have three more wins than me and four more wins than you? And he's been way meaner-spirited towards the Cleveland Browns than either of us. I think he's been more nasty towards ownership and Deshan Watson. Well, I'm sorry. Jimmy Haslamake playing quarterback on Sunday, but guess who is?

4:02And he ain't had anything good to say about that fellow. Now, has he? So where do you get eight wins? We're going to save ourselves with Shunor Sanders, a guy we didn't want to take. Well, that was that was the map that Ross obviously ended up walking him through, which is the same thing that I had put together. Like, all right, if they start out, oh, and two, now all of a sudden, they're going to roll off. Now, the schedule, we have all said schedule is supposed to be one of the easiest in football. If you just look at the teams and base it on last year, which we know is kind of a fool's errand. These teams, some of them fluctuate from year to year. That's a hallmark of the NFL. But I do think Nick believes it. I do. I agree with Jonathan. Like if he actually had to stand up to the test, then I do think he passed it. I do think he really believes they're going to win it. I think a lot of it has to do with he's a big belief. He's become a big believer. Thanks to Jonathan. It's kind of talked him into Shunor Sanders. Probably Shunor's not starting the year. So what does it look like the first two? That means they got to get Deshan out of there in a hurry for them to get to the eight wins.

5:06Because he believes Shudor is that much better. So now we have to catch up with our schedule. And Shudor is going to fix things and take us to eight wins. Okay. Are they watching quarterbacks then for next year? Because if Shudor takes you to eight wins, would they roster that is incomplete? Then forget about any of that other stuff. See that's again, you just keep running into walls here about the logic of eight wins. Like five wins, five wins. I can find you five wins. I really can't find you many more. And I got Jacksonville on Sunday. So when I hear Ross say that, I start laughing my ass off because I'm like, yeah, Ross is kind of saying what we've been wondering here over the last several months. I've been able to really pin down a number. I think it's fluctuated between seven and ten. Well, here's staying to ten or staying to eight wins. I still think it's hard to find it. To get to eight, the offensive line, it really has to be one of the great comeback stories. Yes, it does. That I can remember for a Brown's team and for most offensive lines to overhaul the entire thing. And now already because of the injury, you know, you've got a young guy that is going to be thrust into a situation

6:09where, you know, what do you think Jacksonville, their defensive line is thinking right now? I mean, they think they probably think they are going to be able to feast in this open air. But one thing that we know has to be true, the offensive line has to have a big turnaround. Because regardless of how you feel about the Shawn Watson or Shedor and what the gap is between them or how much how much better you think Shedor is, Shedor is not going to succeed if the offensive line stinks. It's not happy. He's not good enough. He's not good enough. I mean, we saw over the over time Patrick Mahomes struggle with a bad offensive line. Like that, that's how it normally works for quarterbacks in this league. So if Patrick Mahomes struggles when the offensive line goes south, what are our quarterbacks going to do? I think it's going to be a bit of a struggle. They have to be good. Yes, I think it's going to be a bit of a struggle. Like if we were on sports talk radio in Jacksonville, which is not something I would want to do. But if you were, like if we were hosted on 92, 5 in Jacksonville, we'd be going, man, this this front four that's been great against the run, we're going to be able to stop them.

7:11And Shawn Watson is afraid of his own shadow. We're going to get after Shawn Watson. Like I think Jack, I think people in Jacksonville would say that my reasoning is probably flawed just based on dumb luck a week, a week one. I can admit that. Oh, we got Nick here. Oh, Nick. He's on the Y start right. We make it right. Call Kyle right. Hotline Nick Wilson. Good morning. Top of the morning, boys, when did eight and nine become 14 and three for the love of Christ? Like a browning. And for the love of God, you guys are acting like you guys are acting like eight and nine is some hallmark moment for the browns this year. I mean, the Vikings had the third worst quarterback play in the NFL last year and they were eight and nine, the panthers or the playoffs. What did you say? That I'm working with team. Then we have right now. And listen, if you want to say the browns have too many ifs, I can't really fight you on that. But I just feel like we're, I feel like somehow saying eight and nine is like I'm out here. Like my like several of my, our listeners that say, you know, 12 and five and we're going to the playoffs.

8:13I feel like I feel like I'm kind of middle of the road here. That's a great point. You remind me of the year that I said that they would win five games and they won zero coming off a one and 15 in our first call was I think Scott Mayfield, who said I was the biggest home or in Cleveland history. I go, how am I a home or for winning five games? So I know where you're at on this. I totally do. But Nick, when I hear you're ripping and I feel the same way about the quarterback for the most part that you do. I feel the same way about the decision, even though I support him in the decision because they see things that I don't. There's so many things that I have to agree with you on. And I'm like, I'm sorry. How does Nick see eight wins? Because if you do see eight wins and we might as well just tear up these these conversations about 2027's quarterbacks. Because I think that this is such an incomplete team that can still build. There is some good, there's good players that are young. But if if Shadore comes in and takes you to eight wins, let's like, hey, forget it because you're going to end the season on a very important game. And I'm going to have to be a season on a very positive note than where you started off. I don't think you have to choose between being competitive and getting the quarterback next year.

9:16I mean, the chiefs were picking in the 20s and traded up to the 10th pick to get that my homes. Okay. As the bills were picking, I think in the 20s and traded up to get Josh Allen. I understand that the easiest way to think about this is you suck for luck, right? You end up getting the best quarterback. But even that doesn't work. Bryce Young was the number one pick in the draft and let's ask our panthers friends how that's working out. And listen, again, I understand the ifs are there. I think the ifs that really need to work out are I think you need to vote around the ball. I think the offensive line needs to stay healthy, which I think I know it's five guys instead of four. The bears and the Patriots showed you overhauling the offensive line can happen in one off season. And then that defense just needs to not take a massive step back. I think that the events given for a little step back because you have the cup cake of cupcake cities for your schedule this year. Well, I want to see what they do with the come when it comes to zoning man because I don't think you can play nearly as much man without miles

10:16Garrett as you have in the past. And I according to grad Delva yesterday they still plan on playing plenty of man. I will see on Sunday. But let me go back to something here. What you said is right. I've used that same argument too. I agree with you. Chiefs didn't have to tank for patch from homes. Bill's didn't tank for Josh on. I get that now they both had older quarterbacks. So does that mean if this Browns team that again will probably be back loaded with wins if should or Sanders is coming in. Are you willing to dig that trench and stand in there and fight Browns fans coming up this winner if they do finish it eight nine after a young quarterback has come in and taken them to eight wins because I don't think I would a lot of people don't think that the John Watts is going to get him any wins. I do think they're going to get him one win on Sunday. Okay. So seven more wins at what I'm what I'm saying with the Sean Watts and seven wins in the set in the back half of the year. Are you willing to fight against those fans that want to give should or a chance with that bad off with that unproven offensive line the unprovenness of the wide receivers and everything else.

11:16The questions on defense are you willing to fight those fans this winner to take that quarterback out of college. I think you know Ken that at no point am I not willing to fight. I don't know anything. I hope you are. I hope you are. It'll be a long winner. It'll be a real kick in the pants that I go from the rallying cry of we can do eight and nine. We can do eight and nine to. Yeah, I bleep that quarterback. Let's keep a should or here and let's go ahead and trade up for Jeremiah Smith. I'm ready for those wars even if even it's going to come at a great personal cost. Nancy in the pants. All right, Nick. Well, you know what? The challenge is out there. You responded to it. I thank you very much. I hope you do it this afternoon. Appreciate you guys. Appreciate you Nick Wilson. On the wise heart right we make a right call call right hotline. Speaking of miles Garrett, by the way, he may be gone but a spirit lives on on the highways and byways in Northeast Ohio.