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01:42 Cheltenham chat
11:28 Kyle Walker Retirement Talk
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26:54 Kinsky nightmare
37:58 Will Spurs be Relegated?
45:09 Who Misses Champions League
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We've got new kicks. Obviously you want to chitlin' me, I said, the kicks are good.
Did you win? He did win? A little bit, yeah. A little bit. What's a little bit?
Well, not a lot. Ed Chamberlain gave me one winner. Do you bet on the horses?
Don't gamble. Oh, that's good. You did buy your horses, didn't you? Yeah,
which, with my clone, I was in that, I was in that syndicate. No, I went, I had me on one.
The old did you? Yeah. Do you never run? I never, we bought three.
Have you used like being, being done over? Are you all bought over?
In other words, yeah. So if you buy a horse, it's never run. I think that's probably not a good thing.
But you have bought into horses and have you enjoyed it? No, but I've never seen them run.
You said cheesy, you would buy my cheesy? Well, I had one with cheesy, which won one of you.
Right, okay. But then cheesy sold it without me knowing.
You didn't give me any money. I've just stayed away from them.
We had three. Who got you to do that, Cerralix? No, it was Michael.
Yeah, there was something, there was something going on there.
Geeksy, Skolzy. I think Michael Carrick was it. It was shaking John and Musco eight
where he was at. No, there's two. I think it was two, we must have had a few more.
Yeah. I don't remember the Musco eight, but it's called Box the Box as well, right?
Yeah, Box the Box. I got a tin for that and it won.
Are you in on it now? What's winning? No, I'm getting ready to pay to come out, man,
because I haven't got nothing from it since I've been nothing from this horse.
Right, yeah, I went in because I thought, right, we're all going to stay together,
we're going to have some team days out, we have a social experience.
Two of us never run. I think I went to the place where Michael's had, honestly,
it's like, it's like heaven for horses. Why the fuck would a horse want to run when he's got that?
The horse is living better than people. Do you think the hunger, you think the hunger gun for
the horses, man? Why a horse? I can't, I've never got a penny from it. I don't even know what I
went in for it, but I went to this place, I was like, if I was a horse, it's like heaven's smart.
What Michael had for these horses, bro? Why would the horse run? You say, I'm not running, man,
when I live in like this. This is what happens with football as well. That's for us, that's for us, isn't it? Yeah.
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If you really want to go as a player, if someone says, could you go to Mount Deplis,
by CAD schools and karaoke stuff, surely if you're a player, you pay for a big cup, you want to go
and put, you want to contribute. When you see somebody who's blatantly out of their depth,
it's uncomfortable. He's got to hold up at the end to say, I got that wrong. If he thinks that
that is the right situation to put Kingsky into, then he's out of his depth. This is getting
impossible to watch, isn't it? I mean, this, this... Yeah, but then players need to look at themselves,
because I think they've been an absolute disgrace. When you've been left out, you want an edge to
train and where you've got these. That's a rage and you're a fume in here. Not everyone coming in
going, oh, I was lovely, I'm back at midnight, I had a club sandwich, great. No, no, you want to be
begun. Look, no, you want an edge to... That's what an edge to train where you've got. He's fuming.
Shall we start on Spurs? Shall we start on Newcastle last night, because you were there?
Let's do it. Let's go on Newcastle. Let's go on Newcastle. Newcastle were good.
I do really good. Barcelona. That's twice a watch, Barcelona. Now the season, Chelsea, away,
and Newcastle, I just think the tempo and intensity of the Premier League is too much of them.
Barcelona? Yeah. I think it's really great, but Newcastle were good.
What they do though, you threw Barcelona, because even when you watched them last night,
after they got the penalty right at the death of Scottie, it's almost like they feel like,
yes, that's what we wanted to do. Yeah, they've gone back. They'll probably go through.
They'll probably go through when they go back to Barcelona, but I thought Newcastle
aggressive against him, didn't give them time in the ball, and Barcelona normally, where you see them
taking the ball, didn't really take the game at all, and Newcastle just missed that last bit
in the fans of the ball, but if you draw away from them, I think he's brilliant.
They made fields, because they love watching. When they're at it, when they're at it, Newcastle
are decent to watch, they're full of energy, and everyone's available, but then they'll have
the rough nights as well on, and Newcastle. Yeah, well, I mean, it's good in the league,
I think the squad's been stretching. Season 4, to be fair to them, I think they were in
fours, you know what I'm saying? I like Eddie Hal, though, I think whenever they start to lose
games, people are like, if they don't do well in the Champions League, is he going to lose his
job, but he's done a good job. I think he should stay, really, like he gets big results to draw
with Barcelona, and they should have won really. I think the problem with Newcastle, I think,
is the expectant to come win the league, and be, you know, in the top three or four every season,
they haven't got the players ready to do that, I think they might get it in five or six years,
but the squad's not strong enough, the demands are playing in Europe, it does catch up with you,
especially if you're missing a few players, yeah. Especially with the, the sack would
have started to take over and the door shut on them to spend. His players there that probably
would not have been so worried. And has he spent all the idea, I wonder what he's saying?
Talking about proper, you know, we're talking about spend, because you're thinking that the
Saudis are coming in with that money you're going to get to that place. No, but Eddie Hull, I'd
have to know what he's spent since he's gone in there, even with his trust. The problem we've
got is the two lads of Tom Whistler and Walter Madder. Yeah. I'm fortunate to run after the game
last night and two players who've come in, he spent a lot of money on them, yeah. And in the running,
the players who didn't play last night, the two of them were at the back. We're there after the game,
yeah. Like the pit, the day it was obviously there was something. Yeah, so they, they,
along with the box, box, box, stuff and the two of them were just laughing behind.
You think you've got into a club, you've got to go hard, you're not playing, you have nothing
impact on them. I can understand that with Ultimat, because I can't imagine he's like going to be
the front of the running. But Vissa, that surprised me, I thought he would be more. But you know,
you got experience players like that. There's another thing, I know they do that after a game. It's
hard. It's hard for the player. Yeah, you're going to go, but you listen, you're full of energy,
you're not playing, and then after you're playing game, you're doing box to box. Sometimes you might
as a manager, you go, I know you're all in it together, don't get me wrong, but sometimes you
go, let's do that tomorrow. Yes. Or you might do it off today or whatever it might be. Sometimes
these lads, I'm not that shocked, you're not at the top of it. But they might be given a day off
tomorrow. That's what I'm thinking. I know, but sometimes you have to go, will that make a
difference in their careers? Six bucks to box, the rear box, the box runs when you're trying to
keep them all on side. Then the rest of the team, lads were doing it at the same time, and
they were going for it. They were going for it. I was, I was, I was, I did
this a play because I've been interested in this. It didn't play. None of them come on.
None teams. So you think, who'd you start off from because I was watching the show for the game?
Are we bands? No, what's the lads and squads, you know, I said,
are you on? Can the lads ever come on in the show? Oh, yeah, big and chinny.
What a goal. That's a shooter. A shooter. A shooter started. He don't well, actually. Yeah.
Play well, cause cause they had a bad problem running behind. It was just a, once you got in there,
he couldn't sort his feet out and you could see a lack of quality really with him. And then,
Anthony Gordon, who was ill. Yeah, come on for that for an hour. So that's worrying for
you. The two lads too. How can you be ill and come on for that? Well, we have just a bit
yesterday. I'm sure you did. It's bizarre in it. Yeah. You look a bit sick. Can I just say
a bit? I'm a bit sick of it. Andy got, Andy Gordon. Oh, Gary. I know, because you don't
interview him last year. He times a really nice slide. But Roy, Roy, we can't, we can. How can
you be ill, but I can come on for a half an hour. There's two things. Anthony Gordon hasn't
got a history of not turning up. Yeah. I don't think he turns up to be fair. No, I'm not
saying that, but Eddie, I was said before the game, though, um, we've looked at him. He's probably
got 20 or 30 minutes in him. But so what I tell you, the sport I enter the doctors are saying,
you know, if you ill, you, you know, you don't mean that again, Sim, when I hear a player's
going, they're not fit enough, but it can be under bench. It can give us a half an hour. But
less than you're coming back from like a two or three day illness of food poisoning. Are you
coming back from a two, three day illness of sight flu? And you just don't feel right and you
not start. And again, I think that's fully acceptable. No, I mean, you think you'd be, you'd be
sitting under bench for an hour and you think I'd be on a flu check. Well, he wore past those
in before the game. And he wouldn't, he said, he wouldn't shake our hands. He said, because
on Miller, I don't want you to catch it. But then he's going in the dressing room with the team.
Yeah. Yeah. Right, you debate in the fact that someone can't be ill and returning from illness
and be can't be sub because he's not quite ready to play. Yeah, no, no, it's not. And it's not
against, when you hear about players, you hear every week, man, he's got, he's not fit enough
to start with a B.I. in the bench, but something might happen after five minutes. You go,
well, actually, it's been an injury or something, but I know I have to save you for the last half
an hour. I don't get it. I think the level of, the level of the game now, though, you have to be
right. All right, if he's not right, though, you've got to start him. If I have to take you off
after that, I don't know. You're not important. You'd rather start him. Yeah, start him. You're
going to be sitting under bench going, I've not feeling groggy. Well, you're not going to feel
better sitting under bench for an hour, are you? Maybe the Tottenham keeper was ill. Maybe that's why
he came off. Sure, we're not being able to do it. You said Louis Hall played well against.
Yeah, I mean, you know, I do. Do you think he's England's left-back out? I think they call
Riley or Liverpool Mentor, where do you think on? I'm not sure on a Riley at left-back, I think,
I think I'll Riley will go because I see him playing different positions, but,
I'm very likely for a Mentor. I think he's obviously, he depends how he comes back from
back to fitness now, but Louis Hall, the last few games, I've watched him, I think he's done
really well. He should go, that should. Yeah, definitely. He should definitely go. He's
quite consistent. Luke Shaw didn't as well, I think he's done well. I don't think he'll take Luke,
you know, I'm not thinking well, I don't know, but I think he's done well. Yeah, he's done well.
Yeah. What's up? I'm saying nothing, I'm just going to try to show.
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I was speaking to Kyle Walker, the other day, I said to him, it's a strange time to retire,
because in your position, Reese James, Tripp here, Trent Alexander Arnold, Joe Gomez,
Lads that maybe would play, that they're all susceptible to injuries, they could all go down.
You can end up being back in. Yeah, but he wants to be out. No, my point, I know,
he wants to keep going. But the decision, I know he said that before. You think he's doing it,
so is it? Yeah, Ash Buckingham will just go in. But when he got back in, he was called
seven cups. No, I think you can't. Surely you can't want to go in your nap mini caps.
You've got to take a try. No, but I think he's got the point. I think he feels he's being,
I think he feels like he should probably, you know, yeah, I think he feels like he's done
enough to keep his place in this world. Do you get the German cold shoulder?
Probably, but I think still, those Lads do get injured at full back for England. They do get
injured. Yeah. There's not really a consistent, you know, Karin's had a lot of injuries,
Reese James, obviously, has had a lot of injuries, but he's fit at the moment. You're actually
being fit for a while. But we've seen that with Karin and me. Yeah. When Karin retired and then
he gets called up to, it's called so it's an, I think, if Thomas Tuchel wants him.
But would the player like Walker be happy? Is this what you're, would he be happy to go over
there and be on the bench every game? I think he would. You think he would, yeah. I don't think
that you've been a regular. I don't think he's that, I mean, it looks very right. I did that a
couple of times under Capello. I wasn't one of them. I always felt with England that it wasn't my
job to retire. I should be retired. They should not pick me. You don't get picked at the beginning,
then you get picked. You might get picked and not picked during the career, and then you don't
get picked at the end. That's it. That's, yeah. But others, you know, that's who I absolutely
love to bits, who have been unbelievable pleasureing. Retired and chose their own moment. They said,
no, I want to, I want to know what I'm doing. They couldn't, the idea of, I'm in this squad,
I'm not in this squad, am I going to be, they don't like that? I retired. Well, I, I don't
want to, because I think sometimes you get picked on reputation as well. And I remember speaking
to God, I said, I don't feel it should be in the squad, because I wasn't playing for Magninated.
So I think sometimes you, you end up just because of your reputation. You know, you get me picked
for when you really don't deserve it. You come to me with that, yeah. But when play did you,
that was a, you had like a send off, yeah, that was good. You come to my decision, no, what you
made it to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, things, because I feel like, obviously, Harry Kane was coming into the
team and I feel like I was getting picked when really you didn't deserve it. I went, I went
playing, I've always felt that you should be playing for your club, because you have an ascension,
don't pick me, well, I'm not playing, but if I get back in the team and I get back into it.
Yeah, and that's what it is. And he, he done that as, when I was at Magninated, the millennial,
so I had a conversation with him and he didn't, and then when I went to heaven and he combed
you up back into the squad, him after the first few games of the season. And I just didn't feel
I was deserve it really. But your ex-baby and sitting around the squad, that's so important,
like Karl Walker would be great, wouldn't he, for the younger players? It brings more out to do
the players if you're not there as well. Do you think? Yeah. How would you know he'd be great,
because I'm serious. How would you, different lives of different personality, different traits?
Now, you have this impression, obviously, you're trying to get a squad, we've all been
involved in tournaments, but not everyone is great around the players who have turned up playing.
Yeah, I feel like Karl Walker would be. We had Kyle in when we were with Rob, I think you
have played with Kyle, and you didn't play every single game with us, we had Glen Johnson,
and he was actually in the tournament, right? Yeah, so when we were there, Glen Johnson was the
number one right, back and Kyle was sort of there as the sort of younger one, but was pushing through
at the time. Right. I mean, he was always pretty, he was always good with him. It's different though,
when you've played, when you've played, and you've been in the number one right back for so many
years, and then... But is it a problem if you still think you're better than the last playing?
I think these last no go on, you know, just like James, whoever, and they're brilliant,
you have to take your medicine, but I think the frustration might be, you're getting a bit
older, you're getting a better one, but I think I'm better than him. Like, Jordan Henderson,
moment, was the last world cup of yours, right? Remember we discussed it when we were taking
to bring in Jordan, right? Because, again, he's great around the place, you're going,
do you really want to go as a player if someone says, because you're going to fucking run the place?
Like, cad schools and fucking karaoke stuff. Surely, if you're a player, you're playing for a big club,
you want to go on, but you want to contribute. No, but I think your thought is a manager role.
You've got 11 players on it. Oh, man, but as a player, man. I think you've been part of
international squads, you pick 15, 16 lads, you know they're going to be picked, because they're
actually the best players, but the four or five that are on the end that you're thinking about,
you've added three players as well, aren't you? Yeah, that's a big one. So you do want people
who you think, okay, they're probably not going to play a massive part, but we need people who
can train well after a game, people who are not going to assault, people are not going to bring
the atmosphere down. People who aren't going to sap the energy of the place, because there's some
people who did that when I was there. Of course there is. There's one point. So you get rid of them,
so Jordan, to be fair, is a great professional. No, no, no, no, no, no, go ahead, I'm listening.
It's a great lads. Is it lovely? I get them, it's definitely a great lads. So you'd have Jordan
there every day of the week. You're kind of four or five Jordan, Jordan. You're like, expert,
you've got players, you've cleared a big club, it's gone. Are you happy to be on the
place? Well, yeah, you go, but I've got four or five, they're happy to be around the place,
but not really pushing to get into the team. Yeah. You don't need that. Absolutely. Would you be happy
going as that in that role? I wouldn't. I wouldn't. You know what though? I did it at the U-Rose,
really, like it was my kind of role. I still felt like I should believe that I could come on in
games, but it is, it's them days when you get back to the hotel, it's midnight. And the next day
you've got a blowout and there's like a lot of the girls are so disappointed they're not playing.
You probably don't hold that disappointment because you know your place and you're like
more of it and trying to get in them going. I'm not just saying it because I did it a little bit,
but I do think it's important if you've got all young players who want to be playing,
it does sap the energy out of the team, definitely. Of course. But also, you don't want
loads of players around the place, happy to be left out. That's my point. Yeah, it's a balance.
You want to be like, you're running last night, you're training the next day. When you've been left
out, you want an edge to train and when you've got these lines of rage and you're a few,
and you're not everyone coming in, go, oh, it's lovely, we're back at midnight,
a club sandwich, great. No, no, you want to be begun. No, you want an edge to train,
where you've got a few. If I was in the squad, I'd be ready. And I'm waiting playing and then
John comes up to me and says, oh, come on, just be happy. Yeah, yeah, of course. Oh, come on,
that's just a man in jeans. Oh, that's great. Gary, you've been in the studio too. That's
the reality. Oh, right. Do you want Madge? Otherwise, you're never going to make progress as a team.
I did this at United for the last couple of years where I had a choice to make up.
I'm not, I'm not, this is international. No, but even club stuff is different. You're under
contract. International stuff is different. I did, you decide whether you're playing 25 games
of season and you're happy and you know, you're not going to pick the 25 games of season,
which to be fair is an acceptance of that, which to be fair. You don't particularly like,
but you just basically, what I would call good, good gathered. If I weren't playing at
Manchester United and you weren't, you were there in this role and you, you come up to me and
say, oh, come on, Madge. No, the Wayne Root. Would I sit there and say, oh, yeah, you're right,
guys, I wouldn't. No, but the Wayne Root and your Roy Keen that play at your level and there
aren't many people play at your level, by the way. That's just be clear. There aren't many people
play with your mentalities. So let's be clear. You're just a different type of person,
you know, I mean, you are. So you have to play or else it's a problem. It's just because purely
you standard the levels you're at, the quality that you have. I think if you, someone else,
why are you going on keeping the other six or seven players who aren't going to start to keep them
happy? No, but to be fair, was it? When you're, when you've got a squad of 24 players going to
a tournament and you've got Jordan Henderson as an example, just using him as an example, right?
And I'm sure there are other people or examples of doing this. I'm sure Scott Carson at Manisha
City is a third goalkeeper and Tom Heat at Man United. These have got to be good lads because they're
traveling every week with the squad. They can't be our souls these guys. They've got to be good
lads because they're basically never going to play. So John, number two, squad number twenty-two,
twenty-three are not going to play. The third goalkeeper is not going to play. You're looking at those
four lads and you're thinking, right? Jordan Henderson will accept the situations and experience
player that he's not playing because he knows that Anderson and Declan Rice and Laddler are a better
than him. However, you'll be ready to play. He's professional. He's not accepting. He doesn't
play. He just knows the position of his, that he's accepting the situation. The great, yeah.
It's like, it's not a, I think if you two, I do think your mentality is a different,
because you just, I know, but we're, we're kind of arguing about different points. I agree,
Jordan Henderson in your group, you kind of four or five Jordan Henderson in your group with a
train and then has him got an edge to it because what you wanted any coach and you, you want
you players to be upset if they're not playing. You kind of lads in the background going,
I'm happy to pick it up. You're on about your situation and I did. You also don't want
lads to let's happen in the background just picking up to a few barb. You want Deb to come in to go,
who's going to push these lads? Otherwise, the first team lads go, I can chill out because Jordan's
happy to be here. Yeah, but the manager needs someone, the manager needs four, not too many of them.
No, no. It's a balance, that's what I'm saying. You can't have all the ones that are going to happen
there. We're green on the same team, yeah. What'll be interesting when you've got four?
Well, would you not say him as a coach? Who's that? Jordan. Well, I think you can, I mean, still,
but you can play, can't you? You could be part of the coach in team. Yeah, but I'm sure they do,
I'm sure that Thomas Too Cool is using Jordan Henderson differently than he's using Cole Palmer.
I'm sure he's going, you know, sitting in some, I'm sure he's having like 10 minutes with him
and saying, Jordan, what do you think about this? How so and so? How hard? I'm sure he's bringing him in.
So, so as we've, so if they said to you, because you said, I couldn't do that. What if they said
to you, listen, I want you to come in. I want you as a coach. Yeah. Would you do that? Yeah, of course,
that's different. Yeah, but then he knows that he's just saying that to you. So you can just come
and do it, but what would your attitude be towards it if you're like a cup? Because if I'm in
the way in Ruins, and when Ruins is there, trying to pick, I'm delighted with that. Oh, if Thomas
used to just form you up tomorrow and say that he might want you to come in as a coach and be around
the players and you'll lift him to the day after the game. Can you get them going a bit and stuff?
Of course you would. As a player, but you don't know as a player. No, no, no. You're not going to be
minion tomorrow. No, but as a coach, it's different, but if you're going as a player, if you're
taking Jordan and for that reason, I think there's probably players still better than him.
You can bring in to the team and be ready to play more and say to him, okay, can you come?
If you're taking a session, if you're taking players, remember, most players who go
with international football are playing our kind of main guys at that club. If you're doing a session
after a game, you're taking these different players who are regulars and they're all happy,
clappy, the next day and happy to be there. You're in trouble. You're in trouble as a team,
whether it be England, Brazil, whoever it might be, you need an edge to trade. You need
lads to get off the bus next morning. You go, you know, this is going to be sharp and sharp.
These lads are edgy. Yeah, but it's surely right. That's when you need that experience player who
keeps that session. One of them, not too many of them. You get the one foot you got. Listen,
keep 90s lads here today and we'll have a look at the warmth. You need to energy that edge.
I'm disappointed Wayne wouldn't come as a player because I think that if Wayne was in that group
as the older England player and he's doing it and going for it. I can see it in the foul level.
Wayne wasn't at this level. This is why I understand you would want to know something.
Yeah, you can't, don't go. Obviously you can't because again, these lads are going to be
Michelon when they've been there guys since sort of 17. I don't know. I don't know. Not like
them, but for the pay because I was played like when storage coming in. I got pushed out to play on
the left wing. For England and stuff like that. And then there's probably players who
better to play off the left wing than me, but that's what I was saying before. I felt like because
of your reputation, you're in the team, but you've moved my hand in the team. As you are
different, I remember in 2004, your first time at your 18, I'm 28. I remember on the day of the
game, he was Portugal and you were like, you couldn't wait for the game, you were literally,
remember, you were outside fucking play had tennis on the fucking tennis court and I was like,
you get calmed down, you know, I can't fucking wait. I didn't play my football career like that.
I was, I was, I felt, I didn't know the next 10 years. No, I know, 18 year old. You would like,
you felt when you walked out on the pitch, I'm going to win this game for my team. That,
that is a completely different mentality than sort of like, you know, other players that are in
the squad. I mean, one of the things that I think we Thomas Tuchel and the summer, I don't know,
I was just in England there, but I think, you know, to me, I'm thinking that you've got more
given Rogers, you've got Cole Palmer, Phil Fold and Jude Bellingham. I'd only want a two of them
can play, Eze, five. You're going to look at one or two of them that can play. You know,
I'm just thinking of that as playing. And Harry's playing. And probably Gordon's playing on the
left to be fair. Oh, he might, if he's well, but I don't. You should defy yourself.
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Right, Tottenham. I mean, to be fair, if you're a Tottenham fan right now this morning, I'm expecting
by the way, someone to walk in and say that he's gone. Yeah, I'm expecting that. You know, the thing
is as real as you can like that. I was thinking about it last night. You know, no one. You
people say, you have to say, you don't want to see anybody get set. But when you see somebody
who's blatantly out of their depth, right, it's uncomfortable from the time he's got in there.
I remember when I said, when he was talking to a van de Ven, and he blanked him, he was just,
he was talking to him. He's blanked. I said, these players are not listening to this brother.
And then for him to make that decision for that poor goalkeeper. It was awful on that.
Right. For him to go into a game like that at a club like that. Right. Let it come a
dread to start. Listen, I don't know what he's seen in training. But for me, Vicario is the number one
plays in that game. You do that in another game for him because now, look at this guy,
you know what it's like when you're going for that seminal game in your career. You know, this is
the big one. Can you imagine when Kinsky heard that he's playing. Right. Got everything right,
got me. And then he has the nightmare. That's the biggest nightmare since the Liverpool goalkeeper.
Carrius, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To fair, I do. I, over the last year or so, I've thought that maybe
why do managers wait till half time when there's something that's quite clearly going wrong in the first
half of a match and you can see it's not going well. But a lot of them do wait till half time because
of the respect thing. Mm-hmm. Well, no, I think you could have waited for it. It's sad to protect
the man. It's sad to protect him, but it's obviously, it looks horrendous. And I think the biggest
issue was starting. I think that's exactly what I can complete. So my big problem last night.
Has anybody ever been taken off at that early for playing that ball? I don't know. Yeah, but out of
taking off. Twenty four minutes. Yeah. But why when you know when an L field is taken off,
he's having a bad time. But when a goalkeeper is taken off, I know the game and all the goals
against him, we're looking at the way they get it finished. There's, there's no porn like grief
because it's the goalkeeper point. Why? But what's going on? Because it's, you know,
the mistakes he made wasn't necessarily goalkeepers. It wasn't saved. It was playing off
on the back. Trying to be too smart. He's trying to be too smart. He's trying to play. He's trying to
balls come back to him. He's trying to play with his left foot. So obviously, self-inflicted, I get
that. But when a goalkeeper mimics mistakes, all the other goalkeepers in the world come out and go,
oh, I feel for him. I'm hap-broken. One of the other players make mistakes are strikers missing
open goals. And we've said it. Hopefully players have been brought off after 20-yard minutes.
So if the manager feels he's not up to us, he might cost his, obviously, his nervous wreck.
But I tell you, what you would say to your goalkeeper before the game, I don't care what the manager
says. We're playing at a letter, come and do it away. We know what they're like. They'll be
hotness down, certainly for the first five, 10, 15, 20 minutes, maybe 90-yard minutes.
Let's not mess about it the back. And let's not keep going back to our goalkeeper,
who the players would have picked up is a bit of an nervous wreck. He's done it in the wall,
apparently. Right. Of course. He slipped in there. Of course. He slipped in there. And then
it's up to them to get the wall up. So why keep going back to the goalkeeper? And then the
goalkeeper, the first goal is trying to be smart and picking, listen, when you're going to wait
to add a letter, come and do it. Don't think for one minute, you're going to be picking people
or that kind of 15 minutes. They're going to haunch it. Yeah. So it's all self-inflicted,
but then when he gets taken off, we're talking about it today. And all the goalkeepers come up.
It's only because, right, it's, you know, you don't normally see it happen like that,
because the mistake, it was calamitous and you're just feeling for him and you're thinking,
the last thing I was thinking was, is he going to, he's going to take him off. I was thinking,
why is he going to, is he going to stay on up to see if he can redeem himself?
Honestly, I was never saying for him when he got taken off. I was just starting him as,
because I think it's one. Take him off. He's doing it for the right reason. He's starting
to protect him, but the manager's trying to, with, listen, manager. He should have given
him some love on the way off. Yeah, he should have definitely done that. I'm going to have to
keep him. No, you're quite up. You said you are half-time. If you would take him off,
you're not going to, if you're not going to take off, would you want to go go? You know what
I'm saying? Can I be honest? There's something strange about goalkeepers. Gokeepers don't go
after each other when they're doing pondering or they go, he's made a couple of mistakes and
let me, huge mistakes. But there's overreaction to him. I think the manager just gave him,
just, so did anyone think what, for spores, we're going to get true against Adelaide
or go over the two games? No. No, for chance. I don't think it was. But this obviously
self-inflicted after 10 or 15 minutes. I had, I had to, a tab, he was managing tab,
to keep her at 12, not to mess around the back and he'd done it three times and nearly got caught.
So it was like 12 minutes since the game, so I told you to keep the warm-up
and shout it on through him, you've got one more chance, you do it again, you come off.
So I was just fucking off and less than what happened last night. So I think you,
you only got no problem. So I've no problem with taking him off and
to the hook. If I close off after 20 minutes, I wouldn't want to hook off me, manager.
I have a way, I don't even speak to him after the game, but I think he's done the right thing
and taking him off and trying to protect him because if it went well, I'm worse than, I thought,
well, I thought it was brutal. It was brutal. It was brutal, but that's football.
I just thought the whole thing off the back of the last few weeks and then that,
just to be fair, the whole thing is a car crash, it's a shambles. Yeah, it is. The problem was
starting. And just this quote, this quote, I think what you've hit the nail on the head,
the problem was we started him. The problem I had at the end of the game was actually Tudor's
interview. I think he's got to come in there and say, look, I got this wrong, I sure left
the cario in there, but he didn't, he doubled down, he said, I've been coaching 15 years,
I've never done this. It was necessary to preserve the guy, preserve the team, incredible situation.
Tony's a very good goalkeeper. It was for me the right decision to play him. And of course,
after this happens, it's easy to say that it was not the right decision. So he says it's the right
decision to play a young goalkeeper in the athletic home Madrid stadium against a semi-only team.
That cannot be right. It's not right because he's got to hold up at the end and say, I got that wrong.
Because out of his depth, if he thinks that that is the right situation to put Kingski into,
then he is out of his depth because then we've seen exactly what's happened because the guy is
definitely the only thing I see right about it. The last the vibes over last week is a spurs
almost forget this European football stuff. They've got to steal. So he's probably thinking,
well, I need my, I'm just trying to see it from the manager's point of view and see what will
decide your career, these big decisions and are backfiring them at the moment. Please probably
thinking, I need my goalkeeper to make sure he's fit for the league games coming up because the
league is more important than the European for spurs. That's a big game to do it in Royal
Arsenal. No, but it's just an ex-game. He's also thinking, we won't get past that led
to go on the two legs. So he's got to make sure our topkeeper is ready for Liverpool and far
is coming up. They're more important games. It's just a way to game-pand out and he's obviously
made too much. I'd rather him come out and say something like that then. The problem I had with
his interview yesterday was when he got asked about his future and he just said no comment.
Yeah, I just think I said that a few times though. No comment, like you didn't come across,
he didn't come across very like likable. Like, surely if you're going into Tottenham,
you need them to stay up, you need somebody with a bit of personal, they get the fans
on side. There were so many questions where he like didn't want to answer and I think it was Joe
Hart was like, that's your job as a manager, like he didn't answer it but I'm not answered at
the same time. Yeah, just by saying no comment. It's like when he was asked about getting ready to
play Arsenal, he's talking about Arsenal. Remember, you're the Tottenham manager. Same with Thomas
Frank with the clean Arsenal cup. These guys got to understand, he's talking about Arsenal's
one of the greatest teams in the world. In Tottenham fans off, we just hammered them a 4-1 again.
These men have got to read the room, bro, they're not reading the room, they're not getting
your own Henderson in. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.
You're holding back someone, okay, yeah. You say it, it's okay, it's okay.
You know something, is he going to, I think, I think Tottenham, what are they waiting for now?
You know what I'll do? I'll bring you Robby Keen.
Righty, to be fair, I have to say that I don't think any of us have ever asked for
a manager to be sat to go for the ever will, but this is getting impossible to watch, isn't it?
I mean, this is... Yeah, but then players need to look at themselves, because I think they've
been an absolute disgrace. I do, I think the performances, the attitude, the lack of desire,
the lack of fight, the lack of anything in them. What would you want to hear, right?
You want to hear stuff like people fighting and training and everything. That's what it should be.
I was watching the Palace game the other day and I was, I said the name last week,
I really felt sorry for Tottenham fans being, I'm looking at the Tottenham fans and the satan
then, they're just like, they're not even angry, no more, they're just disappointed.
But this has been an ongoing way. This has gone up to last season.
But then players need to look, they should go back to last season, obviously.
They've got all the jail with Europe, they don't leak form, leak defeats at home,
they're record this year, particularly at home.
It is right about the players though, because you're saying about the manager being ignored,
but they did that with Tottenham fans, they got the nestle,
surely at some point. Do we look at the players?
Then Tottenham players, do you know what, it looks, you don't look like Howard Walk.
They'll be looked like Howard. That's what I'm thinking, Gary, who comes in?
You should not be keen, bro. That's what I'm clacking somewhere, though.
Are they going to give them a, if you're not keen now, would you go into Tottenham?
He's playing in Europe, isn't it?
There we go. Yeah, because if he goes down, I tell you.
He's got a job, he's a, yeah, my point is though, he got off of the Tottenham job.
That's a big job. That's a major thing.
I'm just teaming in Europe at the moment.
Now, when, with that group of players,
yeah, but you have Robbie Keane's getting that.
If he gets that opportunity, he's going to be thinking that he can be going in there.
No, then he's somebody who's just char-trum.
I'm not saying Robbie can't do it, but I just wouldn't.
He's a manager of a team in Europe.
This is just a true job.
If you get that Justin for another free, and he comes in,
and then he's got this same player.
Well, look what you know, he's done with, with Karak in.
But Robbie's not going to leave a job for a dream on Dealer, as far as is it?
You know, I'll ask you a question, so Daniel Levy gets booted out the club.
Obviously, that's something that was welcomed by Tottenham fans at the time.
And obviously, before that, I thought he'd appointed Vinay.
The guy who's meant to be, well, widely regarded,
highly respected from Arsenal, and he's now running Tottenham Hotspur Football Club,
unless, obviously, the owner who's over in wherever he is.
The Lewis.
He's Mr. Lewis, he's running from over wherever he is, which I doubt.
Sabasage.
So, Vinay.
New York on Vinay.
Agent Vinay.
He's sending Agent Vinay.
Now, go on, girl.
It's a big city.
So, Vinay's gone in.
He's got a massive respitation.
He's run a football club.
I asked everyone's talking and raving about him as being sort of like a brilliant CEO.
What's going on there? How can he's overseeing this?
Well, Gary, obviously, the way Tottenham is running is totally different.
So, the way Arsenal's running respect.
But he's saying high quality.
Yeah, I think that, again,
if somebody that's gone across there and thinks that he can, like,
any manager does, you think, well, I can go in there and I could change that.
This is obviously thought that he's gone in there, and there's a lot of things happening.
Look, Daniel Levy, I'm sure that when he went in there,
he wouldn't be collecting Daniel Levy to be gone,
not too long after he's been there.
He's gone in there to try and make changes.
There's things going on at Tottenham that we don't know about why,
for some reason, the leadership level from that club from top to bottom.
It's just not there. You can't see anywhere in the structure of Tottenham.
So, I don't know if he's trying to bring that in.
I don't know how you bring that into Tottenham.
But, like, in being from Arsenal, it didn't make any difference.
But he will have appointed Tudor as the coach.
He'll have looked at that and sort of made that decision.
Obviously, I don't think I need a bit of time.
Listen, you can look back now, and it's...
Why didn't you just sit with Thomas Frank?
Why didn't you just sit with Thomas Frank?
You know, somebody who came up with Brent for done what he's done,
he would have been able to see it through, but I'd go with Wayne.
Players have got asked themselves a lot of questions,
because that manager was able to motivate a team
that you would have to say costs a lot less than what Tottenham would have cost.
And he could get that team going.
So, it's an attitude problem. It's something to do with that.
Do you think they will make it?
Do you think they will make it?
I mean, it was four weeks ago we were sat here,
where obviously Thomas Frank was sat only four weeks ago.
Do we think we'll be seeing Tottenham have another manager
before the end of the season?
I think, yeah, because I think he was brought in for instant impact,
and it's four games, 14 goals from season two.
No, it doesn't seem from his decision.
What's their games coming up now?
They've a four-week end, far worse to fall in the weekend,
obviously they've gotten better.
And then they're good.
Sorry.
You know the thing with that is, is that anybody who's playing them,
you're looking forward to playing them,
especially at Tottenham.
I don't want them to go down though.
I feel like from the Premier League, it would be sad.
You've all just nodded.
You're on that sad bit of Tottenham.
Look, I know that I refuse to predict relegation every year,
and did do for 10, 12, 13, 14 years,
because I hate it, the idea of seeing a club go down.
But I'd be more sad,
I must admit, seeing Tottenham go down
wouldn't be great for Tottenham fans,
and I think Tottenham an amazing club,
but it would be very good for the Premier League,
from a competitive perspective,
and the idea of lead staying up,
of Sunderland staying up,
because I tell what I was more worried about at the start of the season,
that every club that came up, which is going straight back down,
to actually, I think the Premier League doesn't necessarily need Tottenham to go down,
but it needs clubs other than the ones that come up to go down.
It would be sad to go down, but maybe they've had it come in.
Yeah, all of them clubs are in that place where you're kind of teaped.
This doesn't happen.
No, this you've gone back to the last year.
Yeah, but the thing is as well, Roy,
because we've been seeing the teams that's coming up from the championship,
and then they go straight down.
It's like there's a...
Do you think they will go down?
You know something, girl.
I think they could go down.
Yeah, but no, they could go down.
Do you think they will go down?
I think they'll see you.
It's a good question.
I mean, let me get, because I've got to be careful here,
because I said, again, I said it on the other side,
I wouldn't be happy for them to go down.
I like the dark, everything like that,
but I believe they will go down.
Yeah, but they'll get somebody and write it.
I think they'll go down.
They'll do the weekend.
The last week I didn't,
and then after seeing you, what's happened over the last couple of games, I think.
But when you look at the players, and I'm thinking,
the look in the dressing room,
who is the player?
They'll bring in a manager.
They'll bring in a manager.
A manager coming in, get lines to get.
I think, I don't think they will go down.
I think that, to be fair, you've all just said there
that you think that they'll make another change.
If you're going to make another change,
that for me will probably need to be today.
Or tomorrow, because you don't wait.
And if they don't make the change,
they will go down with this guy.
I think, to be fair, my view is they'll make a change,
and they'll stay up just,
that's what I think will happen in term.
Do you think so too?
Do you think I need to bring someone with me?
I think it's got a bit of history with the club.
Maybe, do you think I'll stay up?
I think they'll go down.
I really, honestly, girl.
That's what I was saying.
If I was going to be keen now, I wouldn't go in.
I wouldn't leave.
If I was going to be keen, I wouldn't leave a job
to go into Tottenham now.
If you share with all you ever used out of a job,
whatever, I'd go in, but if I was going to be keen,
I would just not wear to leave a job to go on to Tottenham.
Yeah, but not to the end.
If they go down, then you've got that kind of guy
to bring you back up, Robby Kean.
Somebody who's got affinity with a club.
I think I don't think the players will buy into the idea
of just bringing in someone who basically has...
Never into it.
They won't bring someone in.
I don't think the players that group of players
will buy into the idea of bringing someone in
who's not been a coach for a long time,
just because they used to play for the club.
I think they'll just see right through that.
It'll have to be someone who's been coaching recently, I think.
I think...
You have to take him from someone, right?
So I think, well, either that or someone who's basically
caught out of work at the moment,
but who's been coaching recently
and who's actually done that type of job.
I mean, I'm not saying it if it's a next Tottenham man,
yeah, but Sean Ditch would take that job now, wouldn't it?
Sean Ditch would take that job now, 100%.
If they said to Sean Ditch, come and do it.
Oh, I'm not sure.
To the end of the season, well,
what I'm saying to you is it's to be in the game
and have a chance to up to manage a top 16.
I know they're not at the moment, which is ridiculous saying that,
but they are a massive...
They must be thinking about him.
Yeah, if you're...
They must be thinking about some...
Yeah, listen, yeah.
If that happens, you'll be like, okay, yeah.
One of the Tottenham fans would think about that.
I wonder if they'll be thinking...
Sean Ditch?
I think they'd get their heads drawn if they're...
They have to keep us up, yeah.
They're worried about, yeah, they have to keep us up.
They must be worried now.
I think they need to want to go in.
I think they need to want to go in and just absolutely batter them.
I don't know if they're...
I don't batter people all the time.
No, I know.
No, no, no, no.
But you know what you wouldn't take, what you wouldn't take, yeah.
I mean, go in and really...
Did you need some fear pulling through?
I think...
I'm not sure they're in a place where...
I'm not sure they'll respond to that at all.
They...
Those players don't give chicken fucks.
But what do you know?
But then why are you not doing so?
Thanks for the back in Lads, cheers, Wayne.
No, no, no.
You think that this manager...
They're going to pluck out of some way, because remember,
everybody's like, contract, they're going to save them,
and you're saying that these players are going to...
Right, I think they'll stay up, because I don't...
My view would be, I don't think these players
would respond to someone going in.
Tudor, I think, is giving them a bit of a hard time in the public.
I don't think they're like that at all.
So I don't...
This guy's jumping to ride fib.
This guy's trying to go in a bit...
He's trying to go in a bit harder.
There'll be a bit sort of more...
Regiment in discipline.
It's not working.
They're rejecting him.
100% they're rejecting him.
They will need someone to go in
and he's got more of a man-management ability than...
Right.
That's a manager, right?
You're going into that dressing room.
You see what's happening with Thomas Frank?
Are you going to go in there with a bullish attitude?
Or are you going to go in there and give the...
Love, I'd give him...
I'd give him some love.
That's what I'm saying.
Spard is.
You've got to give them...
You've got to give them some...
Because then the total fans will say,
OK, that's what I'm saying to you.
But I don't think that...
Hey, that's because the manager is out of his debt.
He doesn't know how to keep people in his situation.
He shouldn't be their first pitchers.
And that might take him down.
He's little...
He's little spell might take...
We asked you an hour ago, I did stand up.
No, I think it's not number going down.
Never been.
Void just said.
What do you want, bag of sand?
Yeah.
I'd like shoes on bag of sand.
No, no, no, I'd buy shoes.
No, no, I'd buy shoes.
And you buy me some shoes, yeah?
Yeah, I'll go.
Shoes, yeah.
We've got some...
Spars are staying up, right?
Yeah, I think they'll steal.
Wait, grouch.
Spurs are staying up...
With a new change, I think.
You think of the other change?
When do you think that change is coming?
No, no, no.
Maybe after the weekend, Liverpool...
Liverpool's fund, isn't it?
Yes, spores, yeah.
Is that an...
I think we've been up for it.
Back in.
That's an amphitheater, yeah.
No, Roy, you can't say it right now.
You've got to say they're staying up, not with a change.
Because I could say...
No, I think they're going down.
Just staying up.
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So this weekend, you've got Tottenham V Liverpool.
Wow.
You've got Manchester United versus Villa.
That's a great game.
And you've got Chelsea versus Newcastle.
Wow.
So, you've got a weekend.
Right.
Well, I'm excited.
And then this is the time of the season where you're excited.
I'm excited.
Yeah, excited when you're competing on four fronts.
You've got four teams, right?
Who is missing out on the Champions League and why?
Oh.
Start with you, Waza.
I'm going to come around this way.
So, I'm trying to...
City Arsenal United...
We'll finish top three.
You're confident in the United top three?
Yeah.
I think so.
I think so.
I know you're going to do it.
Yeah.
And then...
Villa.
If I'm not wrong, Villa.
If you're not...
I think Chelsea and Lafayette...
I feel like Chelsea would...
I think Chelsea would pull me to a far.
I think Villa will...
Villa and Miss Elves.
I think Villa might miss out, Royal.
I think Villa and Miss Elves don't have with them.
I don't know.
I just feel like...
I think Chelsea gets third.
Okay, let's just say...
Michael get the job if they finished third.
I think if they get Champions League football,
he should get the job and he put himself right up there.
If they're looking for new managers,
but he definitely put himself in position, I think.
If you get Champions League...
He's doing it all day.
You're not going to get it.
We're not going to make a decision to the summer
and then they make a decision and they're keeping.
I think they keep Michael.
Right there, if he carries on doing what he's doing.
They're getting the Champions League.
They've got...
There's something fair or far about them now.
They're all distractions.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I think they're getting the job.
They're getting the job.
I agree Villa and Miss Elves, but I think Chelsea get third.
Yeah.
So you're just...
I don't feel enough about them.
Do you get it?
Are you thinking you and I am, Rory?
Getting them over the line.
They're doing everything.
Yeah, no, they've been frustrated and they've seen
somebody who results, you can't come on.
They're like, almost not turned up.
They've got that.
But there's something they'll do it.
I think they've enough of it.
So who do you think will do it?
Who misses out with them, Rory?
Because that's...
That's because all I think are all I hope Mrs Elves.
I am...
Do both.
You think Chelsea won, Rory?
Yeah, but I'm...
Oh, I've got myself.
I've got...
I'm really do...
To me, I think Liverpool and Chelsea will miss out.
But who will it be, Rory?
Yeah.
I think Chelsea.
We're getting fast forward this.
I'll ask.
I don't...
I've got to leave a pool last.
I've got to leave a pool last.
I've got to score so many goals,
even though they've defended terribly.
They create...
They can beat team, you know what I mean?
Yeah, you say they can leave a quality.
I think Liverpool get anything Villa Miss Elm.
Unfortunately, I actually want Villa to be in, by the way.
Yeah.
You know me too. I like Villa's...
I'd like them to stay in there.
It's good.
I like Villa...
I want to say Chelsea to Miss Elm.
I'll leave a pool.
To me.
They see Elite here, but what's the point?
What's the point?
Yes, they'll remind you about it, you know?
United of 51.
You know, you'd know you'd have a fine time with them.
Villa of 51,
and I think Chelsea and Liverpool are 48.
Oh.
So much different...
Well, under 70-month games now.
Let me just have a quick look.
I'm sure that's pretty much the...
Yeah, you can't just, you can't give us more.
Yeah, yeah.
United 51, Villa 51, Chelsea, all the same game, by the way.
Chelsea 48, Liverpool 48.
So it's a four, it's a four-horse race for three places.
I really should have seen the fixtures
who they're playing as well.
Yeah, I mean, I can just come in so cold on this.
That's what I gave you. No, four-play.
I get straight in.
OK.
I gave you the most time to consider this.
He went first, and you still...
Yeah, but I need to know the leagues,
because I couldn't gauge my eyes,
so because like, a fixtures.
Villa got, you know what I mean?
Chelsea got...
You're supposed to look like you need a big villa to win.
You're supposed to come to this show, but...
If you need a big villa to win again,
you have all the best.
You killed me.
It's a big setback for Villa again, isn't it?
Yeah.
The men they've got.
You've missed the most important question.
I think Chelsea are going to miss out.
Chelsea miss out.
Who finishes top?
Oh, no, we're not going to do titles.
No, we're not going to do titles.
Jill, don't code in.
We're leaving, we're leaving right to trouble.
Chelsea to miss out.
Right.
I live a pool, we'll do it.
Who are you saying, right, you villa?
I think Villa for sure.
Villa, Chelsea, Villa.
Yeah, I think...
Wayne said, Wayne said Villa for sure.
This weekend for me is a weekend where United Beat Villa,
I think...
I'd say Liverpool do beat Tottenham,
and I think Chelsea beat Newcastle.
I think that that point, Liverpool and Chelsea go level with Villa.
United go three points clear,
and I think then Villa starts that to slip a little bit.
That's what I feel.
That's what I feel.
I felt it for a few weeks.
I felt it was...
I felt it for a few weeks that Villa would just start
into just...
How I feel?
Not for a few weeks, no.
It's on your family.
The band are not in bad spell in their league group.
Yeah, I think that you're native.
You should've...
I don't know.
I think I should've...
I'm on matches, they...
A while back for same villa would never...
Don't go anywhere near the top of the league.
Or the other.
Or against a villa fan.
When the fans and everyone say,
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know when it will come for your heart.
So Villa, miss out.
The villains come for your heart.
Yeah, Villa.
Villa.
Chelsea.
Villa.
Villa.
You're following the crowd.
I'm not following the first one.
It's a safe villa.
No, they're following the crowd.
Yeah, it's definitely in the crowd.
Right.
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First of all, a little bit housekeeping.
We fucked up a bit.
Newcastle beat Villa.
I said that, yeah.
Yeah.
You should have got an extra two point.
I knew that.
That's the one I called.
Yes, I know.
That was a kind of stupid checker probably.
The last one.
That's like a bad thing.
Didn't you check me from the...
Yeah.
Yes.
Do you know what happened to you in Keirin?
You got sucked in with all the cricket in the ashes.
You've not focused on this job.
I'm telling you, I watch your study.
You're on, but like distract me.
Let me, you said as well to me one time,
I'm not Keirin.
Keirin, they've got to stick to cricket now,
which is very good show if you want to watch it.
There's too many rocks.
David Lider, S6-STF.
I'm a ducky.
Fucking hell.
A ducky.
I can't watch it.
It's a ducky.
It's a ducky.
It's a very good pro.
It's a lovely program.
It's a lovely program.
It's a lovely program.
For his...
It's a good program.
Now I'm football throwing through, Gary.
I football throwing through.
Yes.
Do you know why I know that?
Because he was a soul for last night, he was.
Yeah.
And I was.
Nice one to call.
Good win for them.
I wanted to come up.
It was a good win.
Yeah, very good.
The ball is in for treatment today, otherwise.
He's been battered.
He's been battered.
It was lovely now.
It was a lovely one.
Nice one, Carlos.
Right, so...
Last week, you got four points.
Oh, no.
This is not good.
Yes, that's the villain over there, look.
Who are you with?
Martinis and Skulls.
No more, he's easy.
Oh, no, I didn't.
So you're going to see the one.
Roberto said that Westam would be Liverpooldinger.
Yeah.
And you fell for it.
If he said, jump the river, would you jump the river?
Yeah, we got it.
I said that.
I was just a boy.
And then, Jules Roy Eann, you got ten points.
Wow!
He's got both of those two points in the Golden Game.
Roy got ten points.
No, he was number one.
I'm a team game.
You're in my two handers.
You're in my two handers.
So you know what I'm...
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
We're back.
There you go.
I believe it.
Oh, my God.
This is the big one.
I believe it's going to take points off as last week.
Oh, my God.
This is terrible.
No pressure.
Right.
This is terrible.
Burnley Bourmouth.
You got five points.
The cover's got a goal mark.
I think it's...
Bournemouth 3-1.
What?
Not chance.
That's how he covers going to go mad when he gets back.
I'll be thinking of my water.
That's what I'm about to tell.
That's a two-one risk.
Yeah, well, you put...
What do you think?
Two-one, Jill.
What do you feel?
Oh, that's the second one.
Because you know Bournemouth always...
That's my team.
I know, but Western.
No.
It's Burnley.
It's Burnley.
It's Burnley.
It's Burnley, actually.
Burnley, actually.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's Burnley Bourmouth.
It's Burnley Bourmouth.
It's Burnley Bourmouth.
It's Burnley Bourmouth.
It won't over.
We've got two-one.
Three-one Bournemouth.
One-two, sorry, yeah.
Thanks.
I've got to be out of the chat for this.
That's the boy you're not.
Sonland Brighton.
Sonland Brighton.
Is this our sonland at home?
Sonland at home.
No, I didn't.
It's gone when it goes.
Yeah, but we've got a good record.
Well, it's the right one.
It's well-backed, then.
I've been a Bournemouth one-one.
No idea.
Yeah, I've been a Bournemouth one-one.
We've got one-one.
We're on messing around.
We're on fire.
We've got momentum.
We've caught the mountain.
How was it, Sonland?
Was it a good day?
It was.
It was a good day.
It was a good day.
Look, they've lost confidence in themselves a lot.
Do you want half a cook?
Look at the body language.
Oh, man, oh, he's OK.
Do you want half a cookie?
No, I think so.
No, I'm not.
One-one, sonland.
No chance.
Right, we'll score it.
Well-backed.
He knew that.
Saturday, five-second.
Well-backed, Sonland.
He's just sending you a deal.
Chelsea.
He'll call them well-cop.
He'll be great around that.
How long does he sign up on that?
Two-year deal or something.
Chelsea, two-year-old.
Brilliant.
Chelsea, two-year-old.
That's not Russian.
Two-year-old.
We had a goal now.
I'm sure you've got a new-casswell score.
A new-casswell score.
Did we invest in players as well?
No.
I thought they had no man's land in the league.
Chelsea, a Chelsea-alwin.
No.
Two-one, Chelsea.
You don't think the world will win?
Yeah, I was going to say.
Yeah, we ever got.
Arsenal.
Arsenal, the righty is Everton.
Well, we had a good record.
Yes, guys, don't.
My most goals against him.
And Arsenal have always done well against him.
You've got that quality now.
Wait, wasn't you, when you're younger, did you say about...
I used to break heart.
I broke Everton's heart spot on a regular basis.
We're going to say, what?
Breaking Everton's heart on a regular basis.
We're going to beat them, I think.
This is onion, huh?
I hope so.
So do I.
And I do what not tech-sounding afternoon when the score is coming in.
Right?
Sick of it.
Three-year-old.
Well, the law is falling off.
Three-year-old.
Two-year-old.
Two-year-old.
Two-year-old.
I think that's one-year-old as well.
Do you think the fans will be nervous or confident?
No, because of it.
The way from home, they've been good, aren't they?
No.
You got what I think they're going to beat us?
Go with it.
I think one-year-old.
To Everton.
One-year-old Arsenal.
To Everton.
Bore and Bore.
Manchester United, Austin, Villa.
Oh, this is a good game.
Two o'clock.
It's a good one.
Two-year-old.
Two-year-old United.
Two-year-old United.
Love that.
Power.
We can't go through Villa when I'm wearing it.
Sick games in there.
No, I think Villa will get a result.
Troll.
I'm going to go.
I think they're going to get a result.
Oh, you think?
Oh, yeah.
But you think got one one?
Yes, do the knees.
Do the whole thing?
They won't finish off at the first floor.
I know.
I think a draw?
I think you know how to beat them?
Surely just goals in it.
No, I think Villa will get a result.
When he scored drif and in the last season.
You're all waiting Villa of...
What?
All of us?
Yeah.
I'm so old.
1-1 or 2-thousand-year-old.
It's really nice.
Go 1-1.
Oh.
Yeah.
Our testament, yeah.
I actually said 1-1.
So 1 more 10.
Liverpool were success.
Why, did you think 1-1?
What?
Because I think they'll get one gold and the other.
LAUGHTER
Super sick.
That's the last six for you.
That's the last six for you.
LAUGHTER
No, you won't.
I'm fucking sorry.
I'm confused with that question.
You want an intellect, you'll get it.
Yeah.
Why'd you think that?
LAUGHTER
Hi!
You're into the game.
That was great.
That was really simple and stupid.
Oh, this is us.
We'll talk to them.
Surely.
Liverpool win.
And Phil, this could be bad.
Liverpool win.
Yeah, two or three.
We give Liverpool two or three.
Two, no.
I think, yeah, three.
We give Liverpool three.
Three.
It's a great game to bounce back from Liverpool.
That was a good one.
So did the list...
Turn them all get one.
And that's the end of the manager there.
They don't give them four.
And they just...
You know, this could be the one way.
If he's still there.
Yeah, it's all...
He's...
I don't think it'll be that hard.
He's been...
An ounce is doing the press conference on Friday, so...
He's still there.
He's still there.
So he's still there.
I think four then.
You go three.
Oh, go on.
You go three.
Wait a minute.
No, three, what?
Well, we give spores a go on.
They've got Salanki and...
They could get one.
Yeah, give me a three-one.
Three-one.
Three-one, three-one.
That's good.
I think four.
What do you think?
Four.
Six.
Wow.
Go on.
Six.
He said six, but...
Okay, we'll go full split.
We'll go five.
Five, no.
I think Salanki or someone good school.
Five.
One of those consolations.
Five, two.
Five, two.
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Full of never-winner major trophy.
Yet they made nine changes
against Southampton in the FA Cup.
Is that madness?
Of course it is.
Absolutely.
I was pleased for saying that.
I was delighted for something.
It was crazy.
What's the plan for?
Like full of men.
Yeah.
Sunderland doing that.
Yeah.
The safety is okay.
Why are they making changes?
It's crazy.
I don't get it.
Absolutely.
I think the FA Cup is giving me fans.
One of the biggest players in the FA Cup.
And the best day is a fan.
And they're just taking everything away from it.
It's sad.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
They're just playing with survival.
They're not bothered about it.
It's all a matter of taste of a last year.
Didn't fully get knocked out by Alison De Palisbury.
It's not the corners.
Yeah.
They nearly got their last year in terms of getting to a semi-finals
or why you didn't think I'd make up for it this year.
Like Sunderland played well to be fair.
I don't get me wrong.
What's the FA Cup?
It's a great trophy.
It's our childhood sort of like what would be.
We just grew up with it.
Yeah.
The thing is that Manchester United
were accused of killing the FA Cup
when they didn't take part in 2000 after the 1990s.
But that was a disgrace as well.
So it's a disgrace.
We get it.
But why is the Carabal Cup, which is to be fair,
always seen as a lesser competition, thriving,
being brilliant final in a couple of weeks,
being amazing.
Manchester vs Arsenal,
it'll be absolutely bouncing, like a carnal.
The FA Cup suffers.
What I think could have played earlier,
and then the FA Cup, obviously, for the Premier League teams,
starting January and these rounds I will come towards.
What do the FA Cup need to do in the season?
And there's less games in the Carabal Cup
to get to the final, isn't it?
Yeah.
For the top two teams in Europe.
Do you want me to win, was it three games, two or three games
and you're on the set?
Should you get in the FA Cup?
Should you get in the Champions League,
if you win the FA Cup, over finishing fifth in the league?
I think that's a good one to bring back.
That'll bring it back straight away.
Yeah.
But then the FA Cup has, you know,
you've picked up a couple of games.
Yeah.
But the FA Cup has been pretty good last year.
I think they've managed it.
And it has come back into it.
Obviously, you can look at a couple of games.
They're like, you can isolate a few teams.
You go, what's happened there?
It's a lot of big teams.
Especially on the managers.
The personal managers to stay in the division
or to get Europe, whatever.
And otherwise, they lose.
They should have ring-fence the FA Cup
should be on terrestrial.
It should be on terrestrial for us.
Everybody should be able to see it.
That's what we...
That's what I was watching.
It's my TV in particular.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But you know what?
And then get that good punting in.
I remember, on my best moments, both,
I think it's the only usual play in 96,
when you speak to Liverpool.
I don't know, the one new.
Still, one of the best moments of my life is a fun.
It's better than an FA score.
Definitely.
Honestly, it was.
But 95.
We lost two ever two in the game.
That was the best moment.
That was great.
The Champions League and the amount of press
and the amount of...
Obviously coverage it gets.
It's superseded the FA Cup in respects of youngsters and everything.
That's what they look for.
The FA Cup is it.
They should have done more to make sure that the FA Cup...
What could you do, Ian?
I don't know what they can do.
People used to say,
if you win the FA Cup, you get automatic into the Champions League.
That's the only thing that can do it.
No, but it shouldn't be...
The intent of winning a trophy shouldn't always be an orderly war.
The intent of should be, I'm winning a trophy.
It doesn't have to be a ball.
We're talking about to try and do it.
For managers who are prioritising the Premier League now.
No, but a couple of examples.
I understand a team near the bottom,
but when you talk about Sunderland and Fullham on a grip,
decent league positions, that's the strange bit.
So I understand some of the managers near the bottom go and I kind of
want to be already the FA Cup.
I can get my head around that, but not when teams are in a decent position.
The Premier League.
Fullham for example.
Fullham for example.
Fullham for example.
It was a...
No, no.
When, does that number pluses come when you win football matches?
Yeah, that's remember someone was struggling,
and then they won the FA Cup, is it...
First time?
No, one...
Was it the FA Cup?
Or, yeah, do you know?
The FA Cup was the start that everyone had.
When you win a few football matches, you're going to train...
whatever competition is, your trainer grant is in a better position.
I've got a suggestion here.
So basically, it's obviously the FA Cup is struggling to bring in the sort of sponsors.
If you win the FA Cup in 25-26, obviously last season, you win 1.8 million.
Let me ask you a question on there again.
How much per place is the Premier League prize money?
Because it's a history of the club, isn't it?
No, no, but Jill, you're talking here about now,
a bit more of a cold hearted business situation.
Right.
So each Premier League place is 3.1 million.
So if you finish one place higher in the Premier League, you get 3.1 million.
If you finish two places, I get 6.2.
What does that say?
And then the win the FA Cup, you get 1.8 million to win it.
So if you're fully...
The memory is meant for life.
If you're winning, Roy, I get it.
My point is, if you're a club driven by money
and by this desperation to keep up, by the fact...
So the two things...
The top players and the supporters aren't driven by money.
No, I get the supporters completely.
But I can't all be about the dollar.
But everything can be about the fucking dollar.
So the only two things I think that are going to make clubs
force their managers to play, I think, full teams
is going to be to give more money for winning the FA Cup.
That means the Premier League would have to fund the FA Cup
and say the winners get 15-20 million as an example.
Why wouldn't they get a lot of money for the winning the Premier League?
At the FA Cup, they should.
Or they have to go in the Champions League for the FA Cup.
Well, I managed a job I should be trying to give my team
a best chance of winning every football match they're playing in.
There's a model, I think, at Real Madrid.
That is their model, they have to go...
Responsibility is to go on and try...
And obviously, you have a squad and something you have to balance
with games coming up, I get it.
We've seen new Castelonics.
You have, of course.
But the principles have been involved in any sports.
Whether you're footballer, rugby, hurl,
whatever the way you might be playing is,
can I go on and perform a win this game today?
But you're just having a rule in where you could only...
Make something changes. Make two or three changes.
Well, that could be another rule.
A third rule could be, you could only make three changes
from the Premier League.
We're talking about the FA Cup.
When we were younger, when we were growing up,
the FA Cup was huge, and you woke up.
When you're a kid, you have that passion,
you're a manager, you're a support...
Money was never involved in your decision.
But no one's in doubt of what the FA Cup was.
We all thought it was the best thing in the world.
However, now it's not seen as being a priority by Fulham.
So we've got a problem, aren't we?
That's a Fulham's problem, I think.
But it's not Fulham. It's just Fulham.
It's every club, I think.
I think all the clubs are actually...
I think the FA Cup last year has kind of magic back.
I think it has, but you'd always get one of two clubs,
a bit isolated, but I think generally speaking,
you still look at the teams left in it.
Yeah, Portfailer there, but it's still a couple of big heroes.
I don't think anyone's written it off.
What united them, what we'd done years ago,
when you look at it, no, we'd no control of it.
It was an absolute disgrace.
We should think about it.
Put on the FA Cup to get a vote for something
that you never even got.
I think Fulham went in 1975, the last time.
I think last season, the Palace went in,
it should have made teams look anything.
Do you know what?
Of course. We want that.
What a day for you.
When you look at the money, it's true.
If it's 1.8 to win that FA Cup all the way,
but then you can finish it and you're getting free and I mean,
they're going to prioritize that.
They are going to prioritize that.
It's all about money.
Every conversation we have, no it is.
Why is everything about the dollar?
Because that's what everything is in the world at the moment.
It's not about sports, it's about passion and enjoyment.
We played top sports people, when you're top of a country,
the top sports people got, but it's nothing to do with money.
It's nothing to do with money, because you're playing,
because you love the game.
The people who run the game, it's not that bad.
Forget about the game.
The people who run the game that will make the managers listen,
we've got to make sure that we stay together.
Remember what the FA Cup is, are you a kid?
I know.
I know.
Greatest day ever, always sorry.
That's what I mean, you don't look back and go on.
I'm just going to win.
Hey, I'm just going to the FA Cup finals.
I'm just going to the FA Cup finals.
Of the bench.
How many did you score in finals?
In Japan finals, which is everything a kid.
In the FA Cup finals.
OK, last question.
Oh, sorry.
No, but I scored lots of semi-finals,
because you have to get the semis to get to the finals.
You do score to the finals.
What in the finals?
Which is...
He had a winner, he had a league final.
No, I scored...
You scored in the FA Cup finals, I scored to...
Champions League.
You haven't scored in the FA Cup finals, are you?
What did I say?
No.
And you had to get the FA Cup.
Are we in the FA Cup, did you win?
Right, eh.
Only one won.
One.
We lost the Wolf, one to Arsenal, one...
Oh, you're one when you practice.
And then Chelsea's drug-products term.
How many did you win?
How many did you win, Gavi?
Three.
Chelsea have had seven red cards in the Premier League
along this season, considering they've had different
managers across the season.
Is this purely down with the players themselves,
rather than some form of tactical approach?
You called it because they did, didn't you?
I keep on with this conversation.
Red cards, because...
Why?
Because I got a few.
Yeah, but then you should be the person who's talking about it.
Actually, well, I was looking at this two of the week
to add the seven red cards.
The...
Is that over the whole season?
Seven's a lot.
I don't think they've won a game after you.
In those seven.
In the seven?
Oh, yeah.
Do you think seven, to me, doesn't sound the last five
and do two things, right?
Is that a not seven?
Yeah, if you've got a team closer to it.
Right, it's like playing a fifth of your season
with ten men in it, basically, in games.
A lot.
How many other teams, do you have to near it?
Well, just...
Have we got the...
Like, that's an iris, to me.
Chelsea, you've got one or two.
Let's go to back to...
I was saying, compilers.
A discipline problem he's trying to say, go.
Most red...
Have they got a discipline problem?
Most red cards...
I've got a record card in the league.
I saw a mostly named netto.
Pull down...
Don't let you let everyone down.
Martinelli.
Martinelli.
And I'm thinking to myself...
It was just stupid.
That's...
Then you look at it and you think,
well, that's just in discipline.
He's got players covering it.
I don't think there was an Arsenal player running in there.
And he's chopped him down on the line.
He's way out here.
Everton for four.
Oh, Joe, I've just put in cold pilot about red cards
and Premier League.
Just says Roy Keat.
Hey.
Oh.
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