Ryan Zink on What It’s Like to Disappear Into the American Gulag for Political Crimes

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Ryan Sink, not Ryan Sinkie.

No, not very different.

Ryan Sink, thank you very much.

So you're running for Congress from Texas.

Yes.

Lots of people are running for Congress from Texas.

The reason I thought we would all benefit from hearing your story

is that you were a January 6th defendant and you went through many years

of trials both literally and figuratively in the aftermath of that

and you've emerged as a real candidate.

And so I'd just like to begin by hearing your J6 story.

What did you go to Washington on January 6th and what happened?

So I guess to summarize, make things a little bit shorter is,

how was that on a break from school?

I was studying media strategy,

public relations, but I'd got hit by a drunk driver.

And so my dad worked in sports medicine for years,

and I had a lapse in my insurance coverage.

So I went to Arizona to work on his congressional campaign.

So he was at the time running against Ruben Gallego.

Your dad?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

And where were you?

You see you're in college when this happened?

Yes.

Yeah, so I came in late in college.

Like I stopped and built wind turbines for a while.

Just I kind of bounced.

I didn't really find anything that I really loved until I found safety.

And then of course, now politics, apparently.

Yeah.

But so I was helping him with his, you know,

congressional campaign, because I was in media like I had a camera, you know,

and I was like, we started off slow like everybody else does, you know,

with his campaign where money was super tight.

And so I went up there to one, get free treatment for my neck and shoulder.

And then from your dad?

Yeah, and then two, you know, just to help him on his campaign.

So you're working for your dad,

and it's changed for free neck and back treatment?

Pretty much.

Nothing free out of the old man, but okay.

But no, I mean, you know, it was really my first glance in politics.

Like the first time that I had ever voted was the Donald Trump's first term.

Yeah, began the only reason that I thought that was because I was like,

you know, well, I've seen what, like I'm at Bill Clinton

and in college at WT when I used to go there.

And I was really weirded out by him when I met him.

What about him?

Creepy soft hands, his demeanor towards the girls that were in the room

in the, like in the back area.

And then the way, just the way he cares himself,

I think I was, I think it was discernment is what I think was.

Interesting.

So bad vibes would be one of them.

Yeah, and this is, and this is like before I was like really a Christian too,

like, you know, living, practicing my life in a court.

So those are animal instincts and we should never ignore them.

It's their accurate.

Well, definitely, you know, like looking back now and you know,

everything I've been through, yeah, it was definitely,

it was a stark warning to really to like be vigilant, be aware of what's happening around you.

Interesting.

Huh.

So, um, but yeah, so campaign trail, you know, going out,

well, dad, um, we start looking at, you know,

the votes about everything that's going on.

And he tells me he's like, you know, hey, I think this is it.

He's like, I think we're going to witness history if we go to the Capitol.

I don't even want to go.

I want to go home, you know, because I've got my, my lovely,

beautiful wife now, uh, was, you know,

waiting for me back in back in Texas and I, you know, left before Thanksgiving

and, um, I didn't even want to go to the Capitol.

And I was like, well, okay.

I was like, I guess like we can do this.

I started thinking I was like, what's your dad's encouraging you to?

Yes.

Yeah, he, he wanted me to go because he want, you know,

he wants b-roll footage, he wants, you know, uh,

you know, him at the Capitol, you know, in, in front of all the

fountains and, you know, we, we wanted to present, you know,

like a strong unified presence in, in media, just like, you know,

every candidate wanted to.

Yeah.

And, um, so your, your dad believed that footage of him

at the Capitol on January 6th would be good for his campaign.

Yes.

And, and not, not just, not just that, but, like,

obviously he wasn't planning a violent insurrection or he wouldn't have

brought you as his cameraman.

No, no, I'm, if we were playing insurrection, I would have brought a lot more

that day than, you know, just my camera.

No, no, no.

So, yeah, both.

So he wasn't even actually in the best of good health at that time.

Like, uh, there was a, there was a time, like,

six years before that that I thought was going to lose my dad.

Like, we were actually like planning funerals and

I'm sorry.

Kind of looking at stuff.

So that it was, it was a hard time to think, you know,

God healed him in that December and he's, you know,

we've been rocking and rolling ever since, but, um,

you know, we were both, like, actively hard.

Like, it would have been very hard press for us to do an insurrection that day.

You know, my neck and shoulder injuries, like, my,

like, my shoulder was like froze up here like this for like six months.

And, you know, like, I was, I did physical therapy for like two years.

But, you know, it, it just, it's, it's insane looking back because we thought that,

you know, we were going to see history for the first time that, you know,

the vote would get kicked back to the states and that, you know,

the states would vote party line, you know, uh, for what that,

that was what we thought was going to happen.

And it turned out to be completely different.

You know, I, I remember getting in on January 5th,

staying with some family and like the, I, I think it was like the Upper Marlboro,

Maryland area and making our way across, you know, um,

is the first time in my mind that I can remember.

I think I went to DC once when I was younger, but this was very real.

It was very, you know, very, like you would see in the movies.

Like, there's, you know, steam pouring out of the sewers.

The second that we get off, you know, um, the Metro, um, there's,

and there's already like thousands of people.

It's four o'clock in the morning, you know, and there's,

there's already thousands of people like over near the Capitol.

And so I'm, I'm already, you know, taking pictures and this,

so this will be relevant, uh, later as well, but it's, it's crazy

to step off the Metro and that early in the morning.

There's thousands of people already at the Capitol all long, uh,

headed up towards the Washington Monument where President Trump was going to be

speaking. And then that was pretty much like, you know,

where we started the day, went in there.

I saw Diamond and Silk, uh, for the first time what walking through.

And remember, I'm not, I'm still not very political at this point.

Like, I believe that there's a lot that's going on with elections

that we're being lied to about, but I don't see it in the capacity that I see it today.

Um, I'm basically there for, you know, a free trip with my dad to Washington,

DC, you know, to hang out for a little bit and get some,

some b-roll footage and go home. And then, um, you know, so I don't get to go

in to where the President is speaking because Secret Service.

I have, uh, laptop, I have a camera. I have SD cards.

I have multiple lenses. I have a tripod.

I have all this stuff and Secret Service is like, you can't, you know,

like, we're not allowing anyone else with bags into this area that we're going in.

And so, um, I never got to hear Trump speak at all.

Like, I was already, uh, made my way up to the Capitol.

Um, we stopped and had lunch at a building that I would get to know very well,

333 Constitution Avenue. The courthouse where, uh, I was, uh, later convicted at, and, um,

you know, we ate lunch over there and then made our way all the way down, uh, to the Capitol.

My dad talked, uh, did an interview with Epic Times.

Um, we spent, uh, a good person, like, we had to go sit down after this.

And then, um, made our way over to the east side of the building where I

remained, uh, for only a few moments up until everything happened.

And then, um, sat down, talked to some moans for Trump, you know,

anti-communist party for Trump, you know, just, just real, you know, gross people, you know,

who've, you know, escaped, um, you know, horrors that we see with Communism, you know,

talking about like, things that Trump is doing versus like where they came from.

And then we get to where things start rolling for the day.

You know, it's, uh, it's before the objection of, um, Ted Cruz and, uh, let's see,

the representative from Arizona. And then, um, we can hear the whole time, like, on the,

on the east side of the building, we hear somebody talking through a, a megaphone, okay.

And they keep telling, and they're talking to a Capitol police officer, well, I would later

identify this man as done fee. And they are saying into the microphone that they're talking to,

like hundreds of people on the east side, you know, like, we know that you guys have a right to

protest and we know that you have the permits. We're talking to our superiors and we're going to

let you in to, you know, in to go up. And we're like, what do they mean go up? Like, are we going

in the building? Like, what, what are they talking about here? So, um, after this,

nothing really happens. They keep talking on the bullhorn. We can hear they're trying to, like,

put a phone up to it to where you can hear, like, President Trump speak.

And then all the proceedings inside of the building start going as well. And we, at, like,

the DOJ has like a huge camera that's, you know, on top of the Capitol building that looks

down over the east side. And I was standing, um, just kind of over the visitor center to the right

hand side. And in front of this, like, green light pole. And right to our left, there's, there's

probably, I don't know, like 300 people in front of us. And we can't really see what's going on.

And I'm trying to, like, lean out the railing to see what's happening. And, you know, 400 feet

in the air, you can tell that there's pushing and shoving that's going on down over there. We don't

know why they're bringing bike racks over to this side. You know, that, that impenetrable wall

fortress that they built around the Capitol was bike racks that, you know, were connected together.

And so there's some pushing and shoving that's going on over here. We can't really tell what's

going on or, like, who the instigator is. But at this time, like, right as soon as all of this

happens, we start seeing, like, hundreds of people come this way. And this is as soon as Ted

Cruz and them object. I mean, it is literally like Texas objects bang. J6 goes off. And there's

hundreds of people coming from the right side. And a funny that Ted Cruz is at the center of this.

I find it more funny that there are a lot more people who weren't at that time, just based on

what, on what we knew. But I, but I do think that it was timed for the objection. I think that

the fact that a senator had finally gotten involved with it is the, like, principal point of where

they had to do something that day in order to stop, um, more information coming out. Because I

mean, the time period between the objection. And when the eruption happens is five seconds.

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So from from my perspective, so I'm right on the railing. I see a couple hundred people coming

this way. They're already past police officers. They're inside of the area, which were not properly.

You know, they always say like, oh, there were signs around the Capitol that day. There wasn't.

If you go back and you look at, I hate to say her name, but Pam Hempfield's video where she's

walking through. She's behind the police line in front of where we are at the time. And

there's no signs up. Well, I have a picture of what the sign is actually supposed to look like

in order to cordon off that area so that people, the general public who has no idea what this area is

in front of them, you know, they'll they'll claim, you know, state of mind that we that we did because

it was an area. But whenever you see police opening barricades whenever. So there was an officer that

testified against me that was waving people through the barricades. I'll I'll show you the video.

And he was waving people through. And then there's hundreds of people on this side. And I still

didn't go through like me. My dad kind of looked at each other and we were like, what is happening?

And I was like, I don't know. I guess they opened everything up. And then like even right there,

he was like, you don't think they're going to let us send the building to you. And I was like,

I wouldn't think so. I was like, you know, there's like proceedings going on inside. I was like,

maybe this is, you know, the area that the protests have the permits for. So we make our way up.

I'm talking. I'm saying stuff like I'm an American. I have the first amendment. And so I'm saying,

you know, like we're storming the Capitol. You know, we're like, you know, they can't stop us. And

what I'm, you know, the DOJ will tell you that I was talking about, you know, Capitol police,

you know, they're like, oh, these guys can't stop us. They're trying to say that I like was making

that disassociation. But what I'm talking about is like the protest, like American people finding out

the truth of what was going on. And to be completely honest, like I'm overwhelmed. I don't really

have any idea what's going on inside of the building. Then like, you know, would it, like how much do

you actually know until you get to spend like an engrossed amount of time, like the last five

years that I've spent about what goes on. I've watched so many videos from January 6th. And I have

no idea what's going on. Even now, I mean, it's chaos. It's a, right, it's impossible. And in the

moment to know what's going on. And, you know, to be like a very, like junior journalist, like the

only thing that I've covered at this point is like football games for a big 12 university. And,

you know, a couple basketball games here and there wrote some articles for a magazine. Like I'm

doing the, the journalist thing, but I'm not in school from my injuries. And then this is when

things get, start to get weird. Okay. So what happens is, and I'll, I'll brush you this part, but

this is very critical because I actually, I did send you the evidence of this stuff last night.

So the police stop everybody at the base of the stairs in front of the Columbus doors. And then

they just open it up. So we're, we're like, you know, a couple hundred people back. We can't really

hear what's going on. And they just open up stairs, turn around and go stand in front of the

Columbus door. So we go up onto the east side porch because I'm thinking, I'm like, dude,

this is going to be some great footage. That's like, well, that's what I keep saying. I'm like,

this is going to be like, this is going to be memorable. Like this is something that people

are going to talk about. If I had only known, there's just how much they were going to talk about it.

You did underestimated it. Like, yeah, I mean, like you, like police are actively letting people

into the area. And buddy gets worse for, you know, for my case, because then I go up onto the

porch. Well, then the first person that I see, like the actual first, like violence engagement that

I saw for the day, the literal tip of the spear. Everybody says that it was the west side. It's not.

It's Hunter Allen M. Key is as far as I've come to know that he's an antifa member from California.

I videotape him, jump up onto the ledge of the windows next to the Columbus doors. And he begins

punching and kicking out those windows. Well, there are people up there that are all dressed

pretty similar. Now wait a second. Ryan, why would an antifa member from California be protesting

a stone election on Trump's behalf? That's a great question. And it doesn't make sense to call

the conspiracy theorist by my judge for even mentioning this fact. Right. So, you know, I believe

that there were people in the crowd that day. I believe that Bobby Powell resting piece Bobby.

I believe that he also captured federal agents that day near that window that were telling people

to go in the building. But we don't have any. Of course. And it tells you Bobby Powell was.

Bobby Powell was an independent journalist who he testified in my case. He was pressed that was

there that day, just to, you know, take, take videos. He was never arrested, you know, anything.

But he mysteriously after he started releasing and talking about all of the footage that he had

of these federal agents, uh, so came to multiple heart attacks and then eventually passed away

from one of those. He didn't kill himself like someone the capital of police officers. No, no. He

didn't. And Bobby, Bobby was a, was a Marine. He was a very strong, wild man. And there's not a

chance that he would have ever taken his life. Yeah. Well, you could say that about others who

supposedly killed themselves too. Mm-hmm. Just a fact. Sorry. I'm sick of, I'm sick of this.

I am too. I'm, I'm, I'm for that for just for the record. Like I'm very mentally sound and I

have no plans to harm myself after this interview either. Um, yeah. I used to say that in just

but it's, it's, I mean, let's just let's stop pretending. Yeah. So, um, okay. You saw and someone

who's been conclusively identified as an antifim member for smashed the windows. Yes. Yeah. Who's,

who's not been seen since? Like he got a prison sentence. He has not come to any of the J6

functions that I'm aware of. I don't know people that know him. Like J6 is, you know, 1500 plus

never heard from this dude again. Did he go to prison? Uh, apparently for four months. I, I was,

I've, I've been unable to track down anyone that served time with him or a facility that he went

to like in capacity because the Bureau of Prisons won't comment, you know, I, yeah, it won't comment

because particularly not our government. Right. Yeah. I'm getting that impression. Um, okay. So he

smashed the windows and what, what do you do? Um, I start videoing, man. Like, you know, this is

like, it's crazy. Like there's like, there's a dude that he's just like jumped up and like smashed

a window. And so at this time, all these similar dressed people, they turn and they start yelling

that's capital police. And they're, you know, saying like, you know, hey, we're going to kill you.

You're not taking them. And I start yelling at them. I'm like, leave them alone. The police are

just doing their job. He's breaking the law. Leave them alone. He's breaking the law. Like that

point, it doesn't matter what I'm there to protest. Like that's not why we're here. Like we

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What I've discovered can carry so, so much farther than much more than your gun. That is real.

Yeah, absolutely. And so they knock this, they knock hundred off the ledge, take them in a

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Let me ask to the Antifa member on the ledge who smashes the windows. You said people dressed in

the same way came to his defense. People dressed in all black. When you go and you look at the video

and you hear the voices, you can tell that there's a different tone with these dudes. As I've studied

footage from other areas of the Capitol over the last five years, too, you can kind of see some

similarities in the way that people dress. There's also wristbands that have been identified

on certain people, too, that we think that that was an identifying marker for different groups

that were there to cause problems. Have anything been identified? Are they all massed?

No. No. It really doesn't help that the Department of Justice was paying the sedition hunters

like $100,000 to use artificial intelligence to identify January 6th, that they couldn't do,

because it breaks the law and the way that they're going out and gathering evidence. They paid

this independent group of leftist Trump haters to come and identify us. Then they were paying

them per rest on top. That's another area. They hired Antifa bounding hunters to hunt down

Trump photos. Ray Epps, that whole deal. Why did the DOJ protect him when they came after everybody

else? Did you see Ray Epps there? No. I may have just in the periphery when I was walking

through the Westside to leave later in the afternoon, but I never saw him. I keep stepping

on the story of my apologies. You see the window smash, people flowing to building,

you're taking video, what happens then? I asked Benjamin Fluke, I was like, what can we do to help

you? Instead of saying, you need to leave, you're not supposed to be here. Anything like that,

he tells me, stay on the porch and take pictures of them. That's in my transcripts. He actively

admits that not only did he deputize me to stay up there to assist them with people

that are getting video to people that are attacking them, he's not asking me to leave. I do that.

I stay up there with my dad. My dad gives his business card. He has his congressional cards.

He's where I'm at now. He has a house number. He has FEC filings. We're in this. The election's

coming up. We're running for Congress with him. We give that business card out. This is when

one of the worst parts of January 6th happens shortly after this. We're up there. I'd say

probably about 40 minutes is the total length of my capital day, at least being on the porch.

Those police officers were talking to him. I'm listening to the radio that one of them has

it's up here. I misspoke at the time because it was really hard to hear radio traffic,

but I'm saying things like there are people inside of the capital. There's a fire inside. I'm

posting all of this on Facebook. I'm trying to stay neutral from this point forward because

basically everything, it turned on a dime. We went from a protest to what is this.

Talking to those officers and then Ashley Bavid is murdered by Michael Bird. We can hear

the shots inside of the building from where we are. There's a video. All of the capital police

officers that testified against me, Officer Fluek, Officer Mooney, and the officer who was seen

on film waving people through, I cannot remember his name right now, but they all testified that

at no point did the capital police take me and my father behind their police line where they were

holding Hunter because we were working with them. Now, I have that video in my possession. That

camera was not allowed to be viewed before it went to trial. The video that I sent your team last

night is the literal perjury of all three of my federal witnesses in my case that stated that I was

not there to assist police at that time and that I was not working with them because there's an

officer that comes over. He separates us from protesters in the gear that I was talking about and

says like, hey, these guys are with us. He's running for Congress. This is his son. He's been helping

document if people attack us. They originally, they think that the shooting is down on the lower

level. They don't know where it is in the building. They take us and we go right into the corner

of the Columbus doors. Well, all of a sudden, the 20,000 pound doors that have to be remotely opened

from inside of the United States Capitol by pushing a button open. They open the Columbus doors

and there are people that are coming in and out of those doors. This is the point of the day

where the officer that we've been talking to that was never identified by the Department of Justice.

They refused to identify this individual along with the other five or six police officers that

were on the porch. I just got the three that testified against me when I had multiple additional

witnesses that I could have called that war badge that would have said, no, they were helping us.

At this point is when we see the first remnants of the battle that's going on either inside

of the Capitol because I don't necessarily know where this officer came from. I haven't been able

to identify him because they won't give us the cameras of the porch. He comes out, he's injured.

He's holding his shoulder. He's got mace all over his face and dad works in sports medicine.

He looks, he just takes one look at him and he's like, that guy needs medical help.

Dad tries to help him. He declines help, but he has mace all over his eyes. I'm reaching through

my bag trying to get out water to let him rinse his eyes out. At that point, this is the last

interaction that we have with pretty much anyone for the day is because at that point, that's when

Maryl Bowser declares that there's going to be a curfew that comes in. We can hear it on the radio

of the guy, the police officer, a Capitol police officer that's standing there. He says,

hey, we appreciate all of your help. Things are getting really crazy on the other side. It

probably would be a good idea for you all to leave. We say, okay, that guy refuses treatment one more

time. He's rinsing his eyes out. I asked my dad. I was like, hey, I want to put the big lens on.

I want to stand on this pillar over here and I want to take pictures inside and see what's going

on. That's the first time that day that you can actually see people like pushing and shoving

with a Capitol police officer, at least from our perspective. Now, if you have the big high camera

and you can look over, you can see that there was some in front of us that we couldn't see. I'm

I'm 5'8", you know, 200 pounds. I'm not the tallest guy in the world, so I can't see over

a lot of people. So then we leave. We go back around. I take some pictures by the bike racks

where what I think is blood is on the ground, but I'm not sure it could have been a spilled drink,

like it could have been, like anything, where the bike racks were and we start making our way around.

And then I see Jacob Chansley, which we all came to know is the QAnne and Chaman.

I saw him on the steps of the Senate side and we make our way around to the west and this is

when it hits and it's like this is going to be talked about forever because the sea of people

that were out there, just thousands and thousands of people that are on that side. We have no,

like we're on the east side sheltered in a tiny little corner. We have no idea the scale of what

is happening at the Capitol. And people always talk about the west side footage and things,

they always show the tunnel videos where you see people attacking. Well, the reason that they

were attacking that day is because a Metro police officer, Lyla Morris, had just beaten a woman

to death by the name of Roseanne Boyland. And that's what they were reacting to. And so as we're

making our way around to go get onto the metro, the closest metro was directly across the west

back towards the other side. So we made a beeline through the crowd.

Can you say, are you allowed to beat people to death in this country?

Well, apparently if you wear a badge in DC, which is what if you don't know, like across the

standard, the Capitol police and Metro police with their combined, particularly on the metro side,

is the ninth most violent police force in America. Of course, you think about that.

Think about all the sheriff's offices, the police offices around the country. They're the ninth

most violent police force. And it always had the highest accidental discharge rate for their

handguns too. Yeah, which is amazing that it didn't, you know, it didn't happen that day. So

that was, that was my J6 day, you know, like outside of saying things like we're storming the Capitol,

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Okay. So did you have any worry that you would be arrested for what you didn't do?

No, because what I thought was going to happen was that we were going to turn over the videos

of Hunter Mk. That we had. That we would probably fill out an affidavit. And I was kind of expecting

like a call from like maybe Secret Service FBI. Somebody, you know, over that time,

but what actually happened was later, February 4th, 2021, just after 4 a.m., the FBI

drives through the front of my house with a 12-foot battering ram. Actually? Yes.

They're monsters. I just want to say that. That's disgusting. I agree. Do you like that?

I agree. You know, a phone call. There's been no reform of them at all.

And another channel is just been screamed at for asking questions. There's been there's been no

accountability across across the board from it. And that's not to say that I don't support law

enforcement in this country. I don't support that. I don't care what you call that. I don't support.

That's the oppression of the population that employs you and pays for this. And you have no

right to treat citizens like that. I mean, that is. Sorry. It's part of my lecture. So you're in bed.

You're back in Texas. Yes. Do you live in an apartment house? I lived in a

rent house at the time. And you're asleep. Sound asleep. And what would happen? What was your

experience? So I actually don't hear anything. So I did kind of live in a rough neighborhood.

It does around love it. You know, it's getting close to Avenue Q. It's a bit on the rough side.

So I think my house is because you're a rich guy. You're a person of privileges,

vouchers thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm just super loaded. That's why I'm in this position.

So you live in the hood? Yes. Very, very much so. But it's, I mean, it's a great part of the

district, though, too. It's not just it's just funny. It's like it just has some higher crime rates.

And it, you know, LPD's done a great job actually in recent months, like getting that area

cleaned up. So it's getting better. And but the people there are still like you like,

eating my friends and neighbors, you know, that were around there. They're still they're just

appalled at the way that I was treated. So you're asleep. And what do you experience?

My front door flying all the way across the living room and damaging both of my couches. And

it will kind of lay sideways where the door is blocked. And I just think that my house is being

broken into. I have no idea what's going on. And so I'm about to a will always be to a the

second amendment is to defend your home, your property and your country from both enemies,

foreign and domestic. And so I'm leaned across the railing with an AR, not knowing that there

are federal agents outside until I'm on. Why didn't they just call you? See, and this is a thing

because at this point, this is when they've made the first announcement over the bullhorn,

Ryan Zink. This is the FBI come out with your hands up. But why didn't they just call you and say,

report, you know, come downtown? Because they so they used a Facebook post that I said, I'm not

coming quietly on some stuff. I'd seen some of the other rest, but I'm talking about my voice.

I'm a journalist like I'm not some, you know, redneck, you know, who are these Americans doing

this? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I do, I still believe to this day that there's foreign interference

in 2020 as well, all through the Biden election, or term administered. But these the thugs who

ripped your door off the hinges, their Americans. Yes. They have to be so sad. So, but there,

there were multiple agencies that that worked it. I mean, we're talking about 60 people in a helicopter.

Actually, yes. And you never went inside the building. They shut down the blocks around my house

for fear that I was going to run. Like, where am I going to go? Where federal agents in the back?

This is what happens when you murder Americans. And there's no in Lindsey Graham applause and

bipartisan applause for killing Americans. I got, I'm just going to say it. I thought that about

the ice killings. I'm totally opposed to mass migration. It should deport every illegal.

I really believe that they're destroying this country. However, it's not a small thing to shoot

an American in the in the throat. It's just not. And you can't just blow past it because

they treat some liberal lesbian chick that way. They're going to treat you that way at some point.

That's what I think. Yeah. And we have to look at those individually across the scale.

It's individual actions. No show brutality to Americans. That's how I feel. Why wouldn't I feel

that way? Yeah. Sorry. I don't know why I'm out of control. Okay. So you've got an AR.

God bless you. Yeah. And then what happens? They make the announcement and I dropped it quick

because if anyone, if any of one of those guys that come around the corner, I wouldn't be here.

No. Oh, you'd be like riddled Swiss cheese. You know, maybe like the guy who predicted 911.

Yeah. Or you'd be like the the guy who showed up at Coma Pizza at the wrong time. Yeah.

Yeah. And he was he was just shot to death in a traffic stop two weeks ago, as you've seen.

Resisting arrest. Yeah. No, I'm sure they couldn't wait to kill you. So wow. So you drop the AR

and then you find out it really is federal agents. Yes. And so I'm like, I'm trying to peek

around the corner and see what's going on because again, I live in a bad neighborhood. Like this

is a tactic that's used by people to infiltrate homes. Well, they'll be like, please come out with

your hands up. And it's actually four dudes that are coming after to rock. Exactly. Exactly.

So I can't really tell, but then that's when the red dots, you know, hit all over me.

And that's when the flashlights were on your body. Yes. They were actively going to shoot me.

Like if I had come around the corner with that, what would have happened? If I had decided not to

post up at the back, man, what would have happened? I wouldn't get anywhere. Yeah. No. Or what it?

You know, like slow, slow bleed out. So I'm taking into custody. I walk out. It's it's like,

I don't know, like 12 degrees outside this day. And they will not let me have shoes. I'm standing

outside barefoot in jogger pants and like a t-shirt for good 38 minutes. So as they're inside

of the house, they are flash banning my dogs repetitively a six pound papillon, not even at that

time. He's like three pounds and a 70 pound chocolate lab. He's my bird dog who now has PTSD

and he's damaged. He can he can't hunt anymore. He's he's completely retired. Do any of these guys

go to prison? No. Every one of them should go to prison for doing this. I believe that there are

people that infiltrated this from watching DC like Michael D Brown, the lead over my case. I believe

that he should be behind bars. No questions asked. But anybody who laughs, bangs your chocolate lab

should be in prison. It's really simple. Yeah. Well, I and not just that, but they need to pay

for like the damages that it's that it's caused, you know, just like to to our family. And I'll get

and you know into that some later very briefly, but it's it's not just that it's the way that they

perpetrated this whole thing. Like they broke every door in my house, unlocked doors, the bathroom

door broken, bedroom door broken, smashed open for no reason. You know, they they stole things from

my coin collection. I'm I'm still missing Roman coins. All of my gold coins are gone. They

these these are federal agents, federal agents stealing from it. Like there's money. There's like

a couple hundred dollars missing from my wallet. You know, they're federal agents doing this. How

does that? You know, I wouldn't judge. I'm not leaving the United States period. I'm going to

die here. But I wouldn't judge you if you said I'm out. I'm going to Salvador. I'm going to

civilize country. I'm not I'm really you're not. And I respect that. But I also wouldn't judge you

if you said I can't live in a place like this. It's too scary. I'm not I'm I'm here for the long

room. I'm texting I'm texting my birth. We're going to fight. I promise. And you know, so

all that happens. I wind up. I go to Levitt County jail as I'm leaving. So they try to unlock

my phone. They didn't have a warrant for my phone at first. They're trying to unlock it with my

face. Michael Brown is a Michael D Brown. There's a there's a difference in those characters. Not much

in morality causes though. But you know, they tell me, you know, like, do you know why we're here?

And I'm like, I'm guessing this has something to do with the Capitol. I'm not saying anything else.

You know, my friends blah blah blah. So the the the the Levitt police officer from LPD pulls over

after I'm taking into custody shuts off all of his cameras body camera video camera everything.

And says we wanted to do this a different way. What happened to you today? We were threatened that if

we interfered in any way that they would strip our badge and take us right down to the jail with you

because you had multiple people from this department that know you that told them all you have to do

is make a phone call. Yeah. And so that happens force this. Yeah. So that that happened. So the next,

you know, a couple weeks, I'm at Levitt County jail that everyone was very nice there except for

this one, you know, like super lesbian chick that was there. That was always in a bad mood.

And, um, you know, I still talk to some of these corrections officers that I see them, you know,

on passive on the street. Now that my case has been dismissed and I have my partner, you know,

they're always like, you know, it was really crazy for us to see you there because it was obvious

that you didn't belong. And, um, so this is where the diesel therapy starts. So this is a common

tactic all J6ers went through this and some former another. So first I went to Eden, Texas had an

impromptu interrogation as a terrorist like where I was physically removed from the rest of the

population taken into a separate building placed into a room with one man who I later found out was

like the intake coordinator of that facility. I cannot remember his name right now. Uh, he's in the

lawsuit. So we'll be seeing more about that to come. But, uh, he, you know, he brings me in,

doesn't impromptu interrogation says that he knows that I'm a terrorist that I'm working with other

people. And so who is this guy? He just works for the facility. It's, it's a core civic facility.

It's a private institution that he just felt like he was going to, you know, be like Captain

Save America or something obvious, super democratic. Yeah. Private prisons. Good idea. Yeah. Thank you

great. Great. Great. You ever thought that up? Yeah. Good. Good point. Not to mention that like,

you know, I do, I do believe in and strong punishments for criminals. Like I'm sure I'm not,

you know, I, I think that there's gross negligence on a lot of judges for the sentences that they

put on people. But I, when you look at the prison system, it's a monopoly. Like it's all the same

people that are making all the money, you know, keeping Americans behind bars. And then like the

grievance processes and things like that, there's, there's a lot that needs to be done for prison

reform, you know, just for, just for conditions. And, and you'll, you'll see that in the next part

of this, this segment, like by the time that I get to watch in DC, I've already seen like,

not, not at love at county, like nothing happened there. But at some of the other facilities,

like federal, like transfer, like course, epic, you know, you see dudes in there that are being forced

to, like, put lipstick on with M&Ms, like green M&Ms, they have the Dunkleman water and hold

somebody's pocket. And this is all in, you know, plain view of staff. Why are they doing that?

Uh, because they're owned by somebody in there. They're being raped.

How long were you behind bars? Um, so from, I, so 84 days is about what I did for the whole thing.

I'm one of the lucky J6ers for, for all. That doesn't seem lucky to me for never going inside

the building, never breaking it. But when you look at, you know, some of the other people

in Rikitario, Ryan Samson, you know, some of the, some of the conditions, like I had it bad,

like when, when I got to DC, but I got to, I got to, I got to be out. I got to be with my family.

I got to meet with my attorneys. I didn't have to spend two, three, four years and solitary

confinement, you know, being driven crazy. My, my extent was just the DC and then I had to go

to a federal prison in Arizona, which that's, you know, a whole other thing in itself right there.

You know, my, my worst part of my journey was, um, well, it will always be the two miscarriages.

But, um, excuse me, I'm sorry.

It's hard. I wasn't going to get emotional today, America. No, it's all right. But, um,

you know, when, when I got to the facility, I was a J6er. Like, this isn't C2B, this is the

original pods. This whole facility in Washington DC is covered in mold. This place was condemned

and then reopened for you's, um, due to compiling crime that was going on. And I'd like to remind

everybody that the Trump administration at the end arrested 67 or 62, I think people. And then,

by the six month mark, Joe Biden's administration had arrested well over 600 people at that point.

So I'm one of the first people to get arrested for all of this. And what is given to all of these

different agencies across the region is everyone. And what they actually told people in person,

they were still talking about Brian Sicknick and his death and how like J6ers like beat him to death

or something like that, which he died from natural causes. Uh, you know, we saw that we've seen

the autopsy report. They told cops at the scene that I murdered a police officer. Of course,

these guys are coming slamming. You know, like none of that's in the official paperwork though. This

is just what I know from, you know, doing my own research and coming back and talking to people.

So by the time that I get to DC, well, DC is obviously a democratic district. All of the people

that work at this jail are not at least on the intake side and majority of them. They're not

from this country. They're all foreigners. So when we get there, the abuse starts. Like I've got,

I can show you like scars on my wrist from where they dug handcuffs into me until I bled.

I show these everywhere I go. They're foreigners? Yes. I believe most of them are from Somalia,

at least the intake crew, the people that are actually what? Yes. At that facility, when I was there,

I would say probably 70% of that staff was foreigners. Somalis. Yep.

Or a region close by just according to the dialect that I looked into. So

whites are in serious trouble in this country. They're not going to be treated well. Sorry.

Well, I think anybody who goes against the status quo is not going to get treated well.

I don't think it matters what color you are. Well, there's just so much hatred toward people

on the basis of their skin color. Yes. It's not good. That's a problem in my district too.

We have candidates that only work with one particular style of people, but they'll take money

from everybody. There's a track record of that. But I'll get into that later. So when I get to

DC, I'm segregated from the rest of the people that are there, that are just like being transferred.

I think there was one guy who was there for murder and there's another guy for burglary

of habbilitation and something like that. And I'm handed a bag of water in a moldy ham sandwich.

That's my welcome to DC. So I have an eaten. I've been getting diesel therapy. I was in Oklahoma

City. What's diesel therapy? That's where they just, like my family had no idea where I was.

They wouldn't let attorneys know that you were being transferred. They would just move you

from place to place to place. So I went from Lubbock County to Eden, Texas to the Core Civic

Facility. Then I was taken to Midland, Texas, but we did a big round road trip all the way up to

like Anten, Texas. Then back down, then I went over to Midland. I got on Conair. I actually flew

on the big Conair plane. And I flew from Midland to Oklahoma City. Then I went to the Federal

Sorting Center just outside of Oklahoma City. And then I was also putting on to a smaller plane.

I was flown to either somewhere in Pennsylvania or New Jersey. And then we did a road trip where

they didn't allow us to stop like period until we got to the jail. Like they stopped on the

side of the road to relieve themselves, but they wouldn't let us out to do it. And then were you

handcuffed during this trip? They had the entire time shackles handcuffs and a box over the top.

Are you serious? Yeah. In the vehicle, you're shackled in the van. Yeah.

From for this entire like however many hours that we drove and in mind, I don't know where I am.

I still don't know what airport we landed at to be able to get an accurate

time to screw. What were the other guys like who were traveling with you? One of them was a J6er.

I mean, they were some, you know, a little rowdy. I mean, it's, you know, it's prison, jail. Like

they've, you know, talking, talking crap, like everything else, but you know, pre-relaxed, I'd say,

for the most part, at least from what I like up into that point, like then I was like, you know,

still like new to the whole, you know, being arrested scene. So I didn't really know like what

rowdy meant then. But then, you know, so we, we're in there. We finally get there and get my

moldy ham sandwich. And then it takes hours to get processed. So they command they take a picture

of your iris, you know, of your eye, sorry. And you know, get your fingerprints, get everything done.

If you set anything to them, they're either going to like push you, shove your head into something,

like they're very, very aggressive. And then my, so the reason that I have this guards on my wrist

from the handcuffs is because I asked this particular gentleman where he wanted me to put my clothes.

And he told me to shut the F up, do what he says. And then as soon as that happened, I was like,

okay, here or there, basically. And he just was like, just turned around. And so he put cuffs on me,

taking me all the way through. I still like, there's still a lot of trauma from this that I

sort through. So I just get such a nightmare. I can't even, I'm listening to you thinking like,

how would I handle this? I don't know. Well, you just, I mean, the only way that I handle this

was my, what was my faith in Jesus? I mean, I'll just be completely up front, honest about it.

Are you a Christian when it started? Absolutely. I was a Christian. I wasn't leaving my life

the way I was supposed to, but I can definitely tell you that this woke me up to where, you know,

it's, it's, and I'll get, I'll get into that. You'll see the exact moment here in just a minute,

too. But, you know, I, I make it to the first cell. And the first cell that I'm introduced to

at this facility has a quarter inch of urine and feces on the ground. And there's no running water

in the cell. Like, eventually they turn the water on to where it's air, but we're talking two

days later. You know, so I'm in here, I'm in this cell that's covered in mold urine and feces,

another person's urine and feces, not mine, by the way. This is in Washington DC. This is in

Washington DC and C2B. The first part that I was putting it, I think it was, I think it was six

to the right. If you go to the far left of when you walk into there, what are we doing? I don't

understand. Like, what is this country doing? I don't, I don't either. And it gets worse. Like,

it gets a lot worse from there. And so at this point in time, this is when I'm starting to

complain. I'm saying, you know, like, hey, can you get me a plunger? Like, can I have a mop? Can I

have anything? Denied, denied, denied, denied, denied, denied. And not letting me out. I haven't

showered. It's been three days been there. No shower. At this point, it's really been like five

days because I haven't showered since I left the sorting center in Oklahoma. Okay. So, you know,

I had to do a whole flight plus a drive, you know, to get there at this point. I haven't really

eaten anything. I'm getting food at this for, for these couple of first days that I'm there.

And I finally, I get an attorney call. And I had some other attorneys that their

Democrats, they decided not to continue with my case because I refused the plea deal. I

wouldn't take it. I sent you a copy of that as well. So, so you can see like the verbiage and

what like the government wanted me to admit to in order to receive probation versus the 20 year

felony. And so I, I complained in my attorney and she calls the facility and says, you know,

we want to do a conditions check. So they moved me all the way to the end. I'm at the very end cell

of the block. And this made them very mad, very, very mad. As a matter of fact, I only got to come

out to shower like twice during this point. And one of them is super critical. So I'm here for

however many weeks that I'm at this facility. And this is when they started putting, putting bleach

in my food, you know, wind acts any type of chemical that was in there. I never had another meal

that if I got to eat, didn't have some kind of chemical in it because I had complained about

facility. And obviously I got somebody in trouble. But I still don't know who that is to this day

because they won't open records, you know, for, for J6ers. So I never, I asked for a Bible every

single day that I was there, which is why I carry mine with me everywhere I go brought here

to the studio today. That I was, I was allowed to have a book. So this is the only thing that I had

and solitary confinement the entire time that I was there. It was an eighth grade level reading book

about a slave owner who falls in love with a slave cheats on his wife and runs away to the north

with her. Perfect reading for an eighth grade, you know, school, I guess, in Washington DC. And

so I'm sitting in myself, I'm losing lots of weight. Like I don't have a cup to drink out of,

I'm drinking out of the bag that my soap came in. I'm getting, I'm very sick. I'm rinsing out like

rice and trying to rinse off like they would give us boiled eggs. And then when they would deliver

my food, they would, you know, bring in like the little styrofoam things too. And sometimes there

would just not be anything in there. So I would go for days on in without eating or I would have

rice and a piece of ham that's completely soaked in bleach that I have to stick inside of my socks

and start ringing it out, you know, just to be able to have some sustenance. And it like, I'm having

all kinds of stomach issues. I'm losing weight very, very, very rapidly at this point. And I'm getting

very sick. Well, then one day they finally, they let me out for a shower. And of course,

somebody goes to my cell and I'm thinking, you know, they're probably just doing an inspection

or something like that. Well, what it actually happened was as they tried to kill me,

they went in and they placed raw pieces of chicken inside of my water line to where it would,

I would turn on the faucet and the water would come out and it would go past the raw pieces of

chicken. And I didn't figure this out for, I don't really know when, like how, how many days it was

because I didn't like no sense of time because I didn't have a tablet, I didn't have anything that

other prisoners were allowed to be afforded because I was all the way at the end. And the only

way that I knew this was because I was drinking out of that bag that my soap came in and a little

piece fell out. And I was able to stick my toothbrush, my little government issued two-inch toothbrush

up inside of there and knock all of that chicken out. And there were three pieces about this big

inside of there. And mind you, I went in it like I'm like I'm since I got out of prison like

obviously I've been, I've been eating a little bit, you know, but I went in at like 180, I came

out at like 130 pounds, like I would get out, you lost 50 pounds in custody in Washington DC.

When you consider like stress, not eating, you know, just the overwhelming amount of stress,

like having nose bleeds all the time from the chemicals that are in my food, throwing up all the

time because my stomach hurts and I don't have anything to keep, keep it down, being denied medical,

at all, not never allowed to have a medical form, never allowed to have a grievance form,

nothing. Like we were isolated alone left there to die. I thought I was going to die.

As I said before you now, I thought there was a point in time where I was going to die. I was

looking out the window of the cemetery. There's a cemetery that goes around this building on the

backside. And I would watch people, it was the only thing I had because I only had that one

book about a slave that I, you know, slid back out under the door so somebody else could have

something to do. And I would watch people walk their dogs through the cemetery and I looked out

there and I was like, I'm going to die in here. And like this is probably where I'm going to go.

And my family's not going to know, you know, like what happened to me? And by the grace of God,

he came into the cell with me. You know, while I'm praying, like God, what did I do to serve this?

Like I thought I stood for something that day. I didn't hurt anybody. I didn't damage anything.

Like I didn't do anything that would really make me deserve this. Like why am I here? And God said,

very clearly, I know the path that I have for you. You'll be fine. You're going to get out of this.

I'll be right there with you. Stay where I put you. Stay where I put you.

Did you believe him? It was hard too at the time. But seeing the progression of where everything

is gone, Tucker, he was there. He was there the whole time. And he never left me. Period. And he'll

never leave anybody that believes in him. No matter where you're at, I promise he'll be in the

fire with you. I promise he'll be there. Man. Like I would get out like four days later.

My video of me protecting police officers on the east porch would get to Judge Boasburg.

And he would release me. And I was one of the first ones to get out. Like out of all of this.

And that's when the fight began. You know, we started going. I was looking at decades in prison.

Decades? Decades in prison. I just want to say again that no one who did this has ever been

punished that I know of. No, they haven't. I don't understand how if Republicans have all three

branches of government have the Congress, both chambers and the executive branch, I don't understand

how no one's been punished. Well, I can tell you it's because there's a division that's up there.

A third of the people want J6ers to go to prison forever. A third of the people just want J6

to disappear. And the other third don't care. They're too focused on everything else.

Which, you know, we're all going to have to answer for what we do. That's true. That's true.

Very much so. So that's that's that's basically the worst part besides the miscarriages. You know,

what did you mean when you said the miscarriages? So my wife and I, we've had two miscarriages

during this entire process of me being arrested. And then the conviction was up to that point.

And now we have one daughter, another one on the way. So I bless you. Go ahead. So, sorry.

You know, it's just crazy to me that I would have a four year old, a three year old,

an 18 month old, and then one more on the way right now with our other daughter that's expected

in April. And I just, there's a reason that I fight because I have to leave something behind.

Yes. For them. And then so, you know, we would go through this whole process of going back and

forth the trial with the imminent peace that just rained over me, you know, from that point.

It's one of the things that, you know, yeah, it was difficult getting convicted in DC. But,

you know, 14 Democrats, two Democrat, you know, prosecutors, I have, you know,

three federal witnesses that I can now prove, perjured themselves in their testimony.

I had 300 Brady violations. They refused to turn over 300 points of evidence from my camera,

cell phone, and SD cards that I took for pictures on the day. All the way up into the trial,

they were still saying that I had assaulted police officers gone into the building and was just

running like Ruckus that day. So we got those dismissed. I was September 23rd. I was convicted

of the obstruction felony 1512 C2 that was overturned at the Supreme Court. I was put on stay

and a motion stay until the Supreme Court ruled on that. And then when we got to sentencing,

I was only convicted of the two misdemeanors. And there's a very critical aspect. I'd

say all the picture last night of what it was supposed to be posted outside. Well, John Naseef,

another J6er just got his, you know, the Supreme Court didn't actually hear the case,

but they made a ruling on it that said that the First Amendment application ends the second

of person crosses the threshold of the United States Capitol. So if that's the case,

and they made the ruling on his, that the First Amendment ends, I never crossed the threshold.

So we'll see what the future holds for my lawsuits against the federal government.

So when were you convicted? September of 23.

So I mean, you know, this is basically just like consumed your life for years, years, hundreds of

thousands of dollars. I mean, how do you do a job during this? Like, what are you doing with your

life when you're just, so I'm, I'm still active in safety. Like, I can get, like, I work in safety

right now. I'm a very, so I am a safety coordinator. So I look at like what people are doing when

they work and decide, which I mean, I have a boss, you know, so it's like, yeah, no, I just,

I mean, specifically, who do you work for? But like what, so you like going to a work site and

assess what I do, I do audits and I watch like behavioral mechanisms to see like if ergonomically,

there's something that we could change to stop somebody from getting hurt. Is there a process

that we can change? Are there administrative controls? Are there like, can we put a guard to

prevent somebody from sticking their hand inside of here? Right. And then I was also at some of

the harshest time. So I was actually working. I have no problem trashing them. I was working for

bear crop sciences there as their safety director for the research and development department. And

working with cotton, you know, all these different, just stuff that's relevant to my area,

you know, where where I live. And they, they terminated me when I got convicted. I told them,

you know, I'm going on appeal. And why they fire you for getting convicted bears very liberal.

So bear being the German pharma company. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So they, you know, it just,

you know, that was one of the things I was working. How liberal are they?

Very. Like, that is not liberal. That sounds like a authoritarian kind of.

Well, when you see like all the rest of the stuff that they do around the globe,

it's very easy to see like what side they lean to. Like, um, the red tape bureaucratic control

of like what they're spraying, the secrecy behind it. I mean, you know, what they're spraying? Yes.

Like agents that are harming, you know, farmers like we have, you know, all like the chemicals

that they spray are causing health issues amongst, you know, farmers. It's not just here. This is

like a global aspect. But bearers doing that. And yeah. So I mean, it was like,

like, fun beat. Like what, like, what, what is the general public actually know about what's

being zero zero zero. And then all of that paperwork and everything is bound up. And there's only

a select group of people that can know what's being sprayed of an airplane, you know, 500 yards

from your house on land that they're leasing. You know, there's some, there's some real issues

and some transparency issues that need to be handled. And that's one of the things that I hope

to go forward with in Congress. Um, you know, what if elected is that you're saying chem trails

are not just a conspiracy theory? I would, well, I mean, when you look at that, it's, I would,

I would believe that completely real. They've admitted it. It's real. But it's funny after.

And so it's cloud-seating. I mean, we literally have companies that are stating that they've

been successful at putting, you know, manufactured rain in our area. Of course. No, of course. That's

true around the world. But, um, which is, if it's successful, I think they also said for four

years that J6 was totally organic. It was not a false flag. And now we know it was a false flag.

Yeah. And there's documents that came out this week that, you know, even Christopher Ray,

who, by the way, I forgot a part. So when I was arrested, he flew to Lubbock and gave the police

chief of Lubbock an award. Um, and then he became smashing all your doors and

took us in your building. I mean, the feds did that. So what was the effect on your family

on your wife, for example? Um, we, we had a lot, a lot of problems. I think it was very scary,

the fact that, um, so my wife and I, we've never had a wedding because we, we couldn't.

I didn't want them to label hers as a domestic terrorist. If you go in and look at the quiet

skies program and, you know, also, uh, the way that the Patriot Act is allowed to move

throughout communities, the Patriot Act, I believe, is one of the most unconstitutional acts

it was ever passed after 9-11. They're literally able to quantify you. So I was labeled as a white,

as a white Christian nationalist and then a domestic terrorist. So like, um, this is the first

flight. You're labeled as white in Christian. Yes. Yes. So, um, this is the first flight that I've

had that doesn't have the four S's at the bottom of it since, uh, February 4, 2021.

This flight, this flight here to where I didn't get stopped at every single gate that I went through

for never even going into the building. So, you know, and like, and, you know, going back to the

whole work thing, I do have to say that I did travel all across the state of Texas and speak.

I would do speaking engagements to where I would talk about J6. I had the Trump trailer.

I was gifted to me by, um, one of the GOP chairs in Amarillo and I was selling Trump merchandise

all across the state of Texas at events, Fourth of July's, you know, any place that I could find

that I could post up all while running for Congress in the last term, you know, as well while I'm,

you know, going through this because no representation. There were only two people that actually stood

up for me, uh, out of all the offices that I call, including Jody Errington, the current, uh, you

know, budget committee chairman and congressman for my district that's retiring. He refused to help the,

the two people. Why? Um, well, again, a third, a third of them want us to go to prison forever,

a third of them wanted us to, you know, disappear and the other, don't care. And do you ever speak

to Jody Errington face to face? Matt, face to face, showed him everything that I've given you.

What did he say? Nothing. So that he wasn't getting involved.

Nothing. We're all going to have to answer for how we live. We are. But I do, I do have to give

shout out, um, to the two people that did. I disagree with some of the stuff that's happened.

Policies are indifferent, but I have to give, uh, credibility where credibility is due. Dustin

Burroughs, the speaker of the house for the state of Texas, wrote a letter to the judge and, um,

good for him. George Santos, of course, former congressman, George Santos, uh, uh, wrote it in.

And I love, I love, uh, I love George. I, I talked to him, you know, pretty regularly. I disagree

with the, the way that some of the stuff with him was handled. Um, you know, it just, I never

understood why they. George Santos, he's got a rank at the very bottom of the ranking of,

like, threats to national security. Yeah. Why George Santos went to prison. He did,

real, he did time in prison, also, as you know, why do they hate George Santos so much?

Hoop. By the way, anyway, no George Santos impossible to hate the guy. Yeah. He's very nice.

Oh, yeah. He's amazing. But just, uh, and I don't agree with him on everything either,

but I don't need to. He's a decent man. You know, he's a nice man. But I think it's stuff like

that that got him. Yeah. Well, and he, I mean, he brought me into his office. The staff was very,

very nice to me. Of course. And he, and he looked through everything. Of course he did. And,

you know, and did, and, you know, and anything that I thought was in his power to, to help. And,

you know, it wasn't, it wasn't enough. Like the GOP chairs in a couple of different counties

wrote some letters, but actual elected officials. That, that's it. And I called every office in the

state of Texas. What about your governor? Abbott doesn't care. What, what about Senator Ted Cruz?

Cruz's office wouldn't respond. They wouldn't respond. No, I couldn't even get a call back.

Nothing. You should have told him you're Israeli.

Um, he'd show up at your house. Of course he does for money. But, um, like, we, we got multiple phone

calls from unavailable numbers that said, if your dad drops out of the race, we'll drop the charges.

Like, we'll give you $200,000 to drop and take the plea deal. Like, I, I got phone calls,

like, alter this. Your dad arrested? No. Interesting. Well, and I mean, that's one of the things

that it's like, why did they target me? It was because I wasn't a Republican congressional candidate.

I was just there, you know, and, um, or dad, he must have felt such guilt.

Yeah. Yeah. No, he, he did. But at the end of the day, it's not his fault. No, of course,

it's not his fault. But, you know, and like, he, he doesn't, he, like, he gets real emotional about it.

Um, sometimes, but the thing is is that we never stopped to fight. We never stopped. All this

did was make me mad. The things that I've been through. All this did was prove that our government

has too much power. All this does is prove that the people of the United States of America have

had their constitutional rights whittled away from them. One vote at a time in a room of like,

435 people that then goes up to the Senate, get signed off on. That's, that's where we're at.

Because we, I believe that we're, I fully believe that we are not in a battle against flesh

against flesh and blood, but spiritual battle for the United States from America and not just

for that for our world. And that's one of the biggest parts of my message, well, why I want to run

for Congress is not just what I've been through, which was a nightmare, but it was who stood with me

while I was in the fire. And that's Jesus Christ. That's my, that's my faith. There are three books that

built this nation, the Bible, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. And they all three play

off of each other. And that is my platform because the United States was designed to be run underneath

the men who have the respect for the Bible. And if you don't have that, then your oath means nothing.

That's right. Any oath that somebody takes to this country and some of the oaths in Washington,

DC, I don't think they're valid either. Like when you look at Jeb Bozberg, a skull and bones member,

you know, there's lots of things with him that are just ridiculous. That's my judge. And if you don't,

like for the viewers, if you don't know who that judge is, that's the one that's trying to make

President Trump bring back the 127 Venezuelans who were put on a plane and he tried to make the plane

turn back around. You know, this is an unelected official, right? Trying to dictate out of a district

of the United States of America, trying to dictate exactly what a president can do with a Supreme

Court can do, what you can do. And then he's destroying lives. He's the chief judge in DC.

And I believe that he's responsible because even at trial, like he denied me a defense of the

first amendment, allowed 300 Brady violations, witnesses to lie. You know, he says, like, I'll give you

an example, one of the jurors that I had. So one of the people that was approved for jury

in my, for my trial was a Democrat leader for, I think it was the Netherlands, who he literally

stated when he came, he was like, I don't think that I can sit for this case because I believe

that everyone that was at the Capitol that day is a terrorist. And James Postburg was like, well,

what we're talking about specifically is this defendant. Have you seen anybody or anything

about him that would lead you to believe that you couldn't be bear and partisan? And he said,

well, I guess not. And he said, great. We'll see it four o'clock for selection. This is in my

transcripts. Like, that's the kind of fairness that we add. 14 Democrats, one of them cared so

little about my life. He fell asleep and then never showed back up after the third day.

It's not sure if you're pure. So I think it's no say the other thing I noticed is that people

believe whatever they're told by the media. Well, absolutely. And you know, I really do think that

mainstream leftist leaning media is the true enemy of the people of the United States because the

you you can still tell a lie while telling a portion of the truth. Like if you if you leave out,

you know, any part that's absolutely relevantly critical, you can completely spin a story while

it's true. Like what they're saying for as far as libel slander goes, you know, those probably

don't apply defamation because one portion of it is true. Like they'll they'll be fine in a courtroom.

But we don't have judges that are going after them, you know, for for the way that they portray

things. And I think that there should be accountability in media, you know, and but how how do we do that?

Did anyone cover did any media organization cover J6 fairly? Do you think or was it all?

Um, Jen Phillips from Lubbock gave me a fair shot. I think that Manny from Abilene gave me a

fair shot. That's it. You know, I mean, as far as as far as like the, you know, the leftist lean

like NBC ABC affiliates now, like the epic times, like all the people that I talk to along the way,

you know, uh, Diamond and Silk, like all the shows that I've been on, they've been very fair,

you know, asked some hard questions, you know, and things that people wanted to know. And I think

I think that's fine. I think that's great, you know, banter. But then, you know, you look back at,

um, you know, what was done to me this, this last week, I was at a, I was at a forum, KCBD

comes in, they do an interview with me. And instead of actually showing, so like, I've already filed

an appeal and my case has been dismissed. So not only did I go through all of this, but my case is

now dismissed and I'm pardoned by the president. So instead of stating all of the facts, they just

said, you know, put up a video of me talking about the district and then said, Jink was convicted of

crimes in September of 23, even despite the fact that none of those are relevant anymore,

that I've gone through this, all of your gun rights been restored? Yes, yes, they have.

So, and I, and I use them and I encourage everybody to have them. And every, you know,

everywhere that I go, I carry and I think every American should too. I think you should be given

two things at birth, a Bible and a gun. And, and, and, and you and learn to use them both accordingly,

because they will be the biggest weapons that you need to fight everything in this world,

particularly more so on the Bible. But, um, now I'm running again. So why are you okay? So,

first of all, thank you for recounting that. Appreciate it. Yeah, man. It was an emotional.

It is a man and I try, I try not to, but man, it's so, oh, it made me emotional. Um,

okay, why are you running for Congress? I want to make sure that,

West Texas stays away from Washington, DC politics and Austin, Texas politics.

We have a great thing in our district and we have lots of issues that need to be looked at sincerely.

And we cannot have somebody who is not willing to speak up in the fight for our country.

Um, representation in our area has always been very relaxed on what they'll say.

And I think that we need a strong front. I think that I've been vetted out. You know,

I, I refuse to take a plea deal. I refuse to bend the knee. So I feel like I've already been

vetted. You can tell a lot about a person who, um, has faced the giants and came out on the

other side and kept moving. And I, I believe that I would do a lot of good for the district

because we're in a spiritual battle. And I've become so close in my faith. Um, I have a lot of

support for my community. There's, I've never actually met a person that has condemned me for what

happened once they've seen like everything that I was able to show them. I don't know what they

would condemn me for. I know. Well, you'd be surprised. I mean, there's some people you're just

never going to reach. I mean, it's like you, you can see it on like Facebook posts, Twitter posts,

which I don't even have a congressional, uh, Facebook page right now because they seized it again.

Who did? Facebook. Why? They took it down because I am, uh, not real.

Disingenuous behavior. What did I, I'm totally confused. When did Facebook take this down?

Uh, like five days ago. So they see it. They took down your congressional Facebook page.

Yes. Yes. I'm what I'm okay for disingenuous behavior. Disingenuous. Yeah, they're basically saying

that I'm not who I say that I am, even though I am a congressional candidate, they, they keep

seizing it. And I'll, I, I can go, I'll scroll through my phone. I got like 50 different examples.

I'm actually filing charges with the Lobe County Sheriff's Office over this. I'm not really sure

what's going to be able to be done about this because, you know, we saw like Kara Castro Nova

fight her case against Facebook. And I think she spent a couple million dollars in the lost. But,

you know, this is one of those, those things were a left leaning liberal outlet. Like he's donated

like 500 million dollars to Democrats, speaking specifically about Mark Zuckerberg. And then they

have the right to deny my voters, my opinion, just because they can say that I'm disingenuous.

But did you do something to trigger this? There's only two posts on there. One was about abortion.

I tried to post something about abortion because I believe that life begins a conception.

Well, obviously it does. Yeah, I will never vote for anything that would promote abortion

in America. Abortion is murder. Of course it is. And everyone knows that by the way.

Yeah. And, you know, and that was one of the things that they just absolutely would not let me

post. And then the day after that, they seized it. Oh, so Mark Zuckerberg doesn't want anything to

get in the way of human sacrifice. I don't, I don't know if that's his, his stance, but from the people

he hangs out with, I think that that could be a real possibility. Yeah. I think that's real.

I think most of what they're so you're running for Congress. I don't think I've heard a story of someone

is treated by the government like the one you just told in a long time. That's an unbelievable story.

And then you want to participate. You don't become a revolutionary. You're not stockpiling C4.

You're like, I'm going to go to Washington, change a system within the structures that our forefathers

created. Like you're doing the right thing. And Zuckerberg's like, yeah, I don't like your position

on abortion. You can't talk in public anymore. What do you do about that? Like who do you appeal to?

X. That's the, that's where I go to. You know, it's, you know, Ryan Z for Congress is,

it's my page on there. I've never once been taken down. I've never had anything. And I've posted

some real disease, you know, like you just, you have to go where the, where the freedom is in this

country. And so X, you know, independent shows to get the truth out. There's no one you can call

if Facebook takes you down. No, there's not, there's not a phone number. There's nothing. You

have to go through the appeals process. And actually they haven't even given me an appeal process

to get it back. They just seized it. Took it from me. I sat across from Mark Zuckerberg at the

presidential inauguration. Were you there? Were you invited? No, I was not. Okay. He was. So just

for the records. Interesting. I can tell you why. I can tell you why I think is because a majority

of the J6 Facebook profiles were surrendered voluntarily. They didn't even have to get a warrant.

On a majority of them. Now there were warrants that were issued. Some of them actually came later.

But the things that people post that are now public information, three letter agencies can take

that and they can do compression files on it. And that's how they were labeling people and

rounding people up. People have no idea what they're agreeing to when they click that box. They

just want the Facebook account. They want to be able to connect to Chad from Billings, Montana,

they went high school with. But they don't see the danger that's behind what they're actually

agreeing to. That is perfectly legal because it's a private company. And that's part of the issue.

That's some of the things that I want to change when I get there. There's a lot of stuff about

my district that I like to cover. But there's a lot of protections that Americans voluntarily

give up that they should be made aware of. It should literally be a checkbox that says,

do you are you aware that any photo that you post on here is compiled into an AI drive to help

identify you? That's something that should be talked about. It's very clearly in a long

summation of wording, you're agreeing to that. And it's there and it's real. And this is a very

clear and present danger. AI is a big concern of mine because one, we have to stay out ahead of China.

I think this, so in my district, this is a big issue because we're getting AI centers,

we're getting data centers. We're very concerned about how we're going to keep water

in our districts, but to say, do you have the water for that? So we have the water,

but for how long? When they come in, are we looking at 20 years? So we're looking at 30 years.

I have proposals that I would like to see that are, we have flare gas in West Texas. It's a way

to burn off gas. Atmospheric water generators would be perfect to put on there. We could offset

and let the music close loop systems. I think are going to be mostly beneficial, but they

cost a lot of energy. And how are we supposed to keep, you know, the, we have to stay ahead of China.

We have to stay ahead of Russia. So are these set not to get in the weeds, but are these centers

going to be rolling in flare gas? Is that the idea? That's, that's what I would like to see. Yeah,

I would like to, so I would like to get on several committees like the ag board energy sector.

And because I believe that we can do this, but at what cost? I mean, we're already 40 trillion

dollars in debt. We just spent like what? Another 800 million dollars like yesterday.

So is the district being asked to pay for some of this stuff? I think that just like anything else,

you know, they say, this is not going to hurt you. You know, this is not going to affect your,

you know, your electric bill. And then what do we see three years down the road when the funding

runs out? You know, it comes from us. Then tax rates go up and we see why would citizens fund

private businesses, whether it's a sports stadium or a data center, I don't understand like what?

Well, yeah. And, you know, and, but you see this all the time where we, we get promised something

to say, like, wind turbines. They said that it was going to be like one of the greatest, I built

them. I built hundreds of these things. They're not ever going to pay for themselves. You know,

and it doesn't have you told Ben Shapiro because this doesn't sound like the free market to me at all.

Man, maybe I should. You think you've listened? No, I don't think he's on your side, Ryan,

but you know, you just hear these people, the free market capitalism. I'm in favor of it. When,

when do we get that? Because this doesn't, it seems like the opposite seems like

crushing the middle class to help like a tiny percentage of the population get richer than anyone's

ever been. And then blame it on the rich. Yeah. It doesn't seem like capitalism between, but

who are you running against? So I'm running against eight. So there's eight people total in the race.

In the primary? Uh, yes. So, uh, well, there's seven in the Republican and then one in the

democracy. I'm assuming West Texas is still decided in the primary, correct? Um, yes. So

it's whoever gets this seat, you're right. Right. The Republican winner of the Republican

primary will be the next member of cops. Yeah, where I think we're 20 plus 25 plus seven.

Yeah. That's my point. Okay. So, um, of the seven, the six you're running against, who are they?

Do you have a shot? Um, I, I do believe that I have a shot. I think that I have the experience.

I think that, uh, you know, once people see the, the, the full, you know, story of JSEGs plus,

you know, there, I think, I think so. So, uh, one of the people that we have is Tom Sell. Um, he

is a lobbyist. He's worked in, you know, he's worked in Ag for a long time, but for both sides.

And not all of the things that he's worked on, do I feel really had the relevancy to quantify

experience? I think that he was there with Larry Convist whenever he was, um, a congressman for

a district, the first, uh, Republican congressman when we flipped and have been a Republican ever since.

But, um, I'm not really keen on 76% of the farm bill going to snap benefits. I think it's a waste of

money. You know, there, there, there, there's a lot of things about the farm bill that need to be

changed. I mean, aren't the farmers in our area, well, not just here, but all across the United States,

but this, this is the district that I love that I call home is we have some of the highest input

costs that we've ever seen ever. And we need a farm bill that stops putting a band aid on,

on funding. I mean, we, we have a slew of things. I think one of the most important issues

that's been neglected, not only in the first farm bill that he helped write, um, is insurance.

We're at a giant insurance war. And also in funding, like it is very, very hard to get ag lending

with the interest rates, with the amount of money that that goes down, not to mention if you're

trying to buy a new tractor. I don't know if you've looked at the prices of those lately. It's

astonishing how much it's costing us. And then at the same time, you know, we have, um,

grifters that are coming in across the district that make these raucous claims about they've generated

millions of votes for Donald Trump with an organization for, you know, like Abraham and Rico's.

I've seen no relevant information outside of what his campaign puts out that he's raised

millions of votes for Donald Trump. I haven't seen it. You know, I hear it from him. So these are,

you're talking about a candidate in the primary. Yes. So I don't know how you've been treated,

but having watched other people make similar statements about the way our system works.

I think you're going to get attacked. That's just my guess. Pretty hard. I've been attacked for

for five years now, but on my rounds. I've had, I've had death threats. We've had somebody come out

to my house and place three targets, three shooting targets on my vehicles, one for me, one for my

wife and one for my daughter. I turn those over to the Hawkely County Sheriff's Office,

and they took a report. There were no fingerprints. Nothing came out of it.

I get attacked for being at J6. I get attacked for my faith on a regular basis.

I'm not just going to say Democrats. I'm just going to say people that don't believe

the spiritual warfare aspect of it. There's always that attack. But the threats on my life and my

family are the ones that it's something that I hope nobody has to experience. But I'm there.

Already, we have guys in our race that are parading around after getting the

government's endorsement with security in Jones County. Nobody wants to shoot anybody in

Jones County. This is a very, very small district that has lost two hospitals, which is another

huge issue. Then we have just continuing with who I'm running against. Jason Corley,

Precinct II Commissioner for Lubbock, Texas. I like Jason. I think he's a great guy, honestly.

I think he's got some experience and some knowledge that I think would benefit

across the district. Not to say that I don't have the same experience. I've been

entirely focused on how Congress works for five years, trying to overcome laws that would not

just benefit me, but 1600 people. I think there's some things that he wants to do that are great

for the district that I would be that I would love to be a part of too. But there's just some

there's something missing and it's not like a smash at him. Because I think there's guys that

have run for the right reason. And then you have Dalmay, who's 80 years old. I believe he's a

neurosurgeon, if I, if I remember correctly, has a, you know, decorative veteran. He's a wonderful

man. Do we really want to put up, you know, look at Mitch McConnell this week, like where we,

where are we at across the line of where how old is, is too old? Like he seems pretty chipper,

but some of the things that he says, I think it's more of a fantasy than a reality of what you're

actually going to get to committing. Well, a dying country has dying leaders. So it's a bad,

it's just a bad trend. And I think there's some, I think there's some dissonance to that,

because what can you actually get accomplished right now? I mean, we have everything that we need

to restore this country right now. We still aren't getting the votes. Yeah, not getting anything done

at all. And it's getting worse, of course. And it's just a complete betrayal. I think that's

fair to say. But the question is why and the answer from what I can tell, maybe you disagree,

is that the machine is so strong that it takes an extraordinary person to stand in its way.

It does. And, but I think that we could do that, though. And see, and this is, it takes some

extraordinary people. I mean, I mean, look at, look at what the squad did to Congress. Like, look,

look at how they were able to manipulate Nancy Pelosi into a corner. They're in their,

they're in their own way, extraordinary people. I mean, it's just a fact. I disagree with them,

of course. And I absolutely, but I, I think they're a talented and be, you know, pretty good at

pretty brave, really. They stood against a lot of things that their leadership wanted. And,

I don't know, I would, I don't want them in charge of anything. They put me in prison immediately

if they ever took power. However, I think their success within their own conference is a model

to Republicans like, don't go along with what Mitch McConnell wants into Mike Johnson's

which is weak and effective. That's the biggest sinister too. I mean, let's be honest,

they're sinister. And what is this? The biggest thing that I see that is like holding Americans back

is that we have to get control of our, of our spending are, you know, our, our budget is designed

to protect America, benefit the American citizens. And then we get into foreign policy

about, you know, like where typically our money is gone is it leaves our country.

And I have a huge issue with that, you know, and some, and some, some of the other candidates,

they don't, they don't have an issue with that. I'm America first. I believe if it doesn't benefit

Americans, then we shouldn't be doing it. And I don't care what country it is. There's no reason

for us to be sending billions and billions of dollars, one to research, you know, transgender

frogs in South America, like, well, you know, any of these other crazy things that have come out

with doge. And we should not only be allowing doge to continue, but we should be

way more actively involved in where our spending goes. I think that Americans have to write to say no.

Of course. Of course they do. No. And yeah. And I do think at this point when you find out that like

everyone at DOJ has been sitting on the Epstein files for 15 years and they knew

they're complicit in it. And so at this point, the government has very little legitimacy left,

I would say. I don't feel that they're legitimate. And I just think that there's no transparency at all.

Right. I just think that we're being completely lied to.

Well, right. And you have to navigate that. You have to have the experience of going through

something like I did to see the wording, to see the writing on the wall and not donate money to

the other side for this cause or stand firm in the gap for where you are because we're never

going to get anywhere if we don't fix it. Like I really feel, you know, we're coming up on

250 years here. It's life worth. What are we going to leave behind for our children?

I agree. It takes bravery. That's what it takes. And you've displayed it. So last question is

since you're not on Facebook, well, I have one. I just don't have a congressional page.

How do people learn about your campaign? So they send you money.

I just want to say that if every viewer that watched this sent me $5, we could keep the

district and its entirety in Republican control. I think that that would be more than enough.

But I only take money from people that believe in me. I don't want to take money from packs.

You know, everybody says, you know, yeah, well, they'll give you all this. I want business owners.

I want true patriots Americans who are sick of the system that we live in to get behind me.

I don't want to see if you think that I'm going to bow down to a cause like with major farm or

something like that that would get me to vote a certain way that dishonors the people of my

district or dishonors the way that I would live my Christian life. I don't want you money.

But if you want to be one of the people that believes in me that stands up for American values,

that stands up for a country that was founded on biblical principles, you can go and you can

find everything about my campaign and about me at ryanzinc.vote. That's RYANDIANK.vote.

I'm on X at ryanz for Congress. That's the tag handle. And then ryanzinc is my Facebook. And then

also I have a TikTok. But I use that more of a platform for my Bible studies. If I feel led to

move, you know, some of the to get a message out on there, I put that on TikTok. And that's just

ryanzinc for Congress. I appreciate you taking all this time and coming out here for this.

Man, I appreciate you putting some interest in district 19. It's very hard to

be in our area and get recognition, get exposure to like the needs of our community.

Oh, I bet. Just for where we are. I feel like sometimes as big as we are, it's a large district.

It's over 30,000 square miles. We got 750,000 people is somewhere around there.

It's a big district. And it's food, it's fuel, it's fiber. But more importantly, it's faith,

it's family, and it's freedom. It's what grows in our district. And that's where I call home.

And I love it. And I really appreciate the opportunity to come in and tell my story.

Amen. Ryanzinc, thank you very much.

Thank you.