s04e10 | Bureaucratic Incompetence & the Death of Expertise, with Michelle Naef

Michelle Naef is an engineer with many years in Canadian Oil, and is now working on her doctorate in organizational theory. In this interview we talk about the "clay layer" of middle management that is gumming up so much of our institutions, and causing failures in public trust and safety. Brilliant woman! Follow her on twitter @Bornforbarn Support this channel by a meagre donation https://www.paypal.me/benjaminboyce