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my morning piece, I want to spend a little bit of time on it. So I've been wanting to articulate
this for a little bit. And you know, I actually ran and ran this through Claude last night,
and then again this morning before I hit publish. And I wasn't sure, because so I wrote a piece.
This is actually now kind of fascinating. I wrote a piece and then I put it into Claude,
the AI chat thing that even the Defense Department uses and said, Claude, take all the stuff I've
written and see if I've missed some points. Then I should add to this piece, but it's got to be
less than 700 words. And here's the premise. And then I put the whole piece in and then said,
hey, you should add these couple of things. And I was like, okay, you know what? This is actually
worth my time. It didn't write it for me. It just said, hey, you forgot to make a couple of these
points that you've made in the past based on your prior writing. And I was really impressed with that.
So I want to spend some time on that with my Claude assist here for the points that I had not made.
Because if you go online or you go on television right now, there are a lot of people screaming about
international law and the shattering of norms by Donald Trump. There's a particular kind of
intellectual dishonesty. And it's masquerading as principal, particularly on the left. And it's
called either international law or norms. They're invoked with religious fervor whenever the United
States or Israel, but a lot of our allies take any action around the world. They conveniently
forget about it when the enemies of civilization act out. Watch the pattern and the conclusion
becomes very unavoidable here that the left's commitment to international law is not really a
commitment to international law. It's used to constrain the United States of America.
So look at what's happening right now. Our military engagement against Iran
has the usual coalition of academics and think tankers, progressive politicians, the anti-Semites,
the op-ed writers, they're all clutching their pearls, screaming international law, international
norms based international order, the rule of law. Many of them are calling the United States a
rogue nation. They're calling us a state sponsor of terrorism because the president of the United
States decided it was time to end Iran's regime of terror and their quest for nuclear weapons.
But also none of them said anything on the morning of October 7th, 2023.
For those of you who don't recognize that date, most of you are on the left. Hamas
strapped on parachutes with propellers behind them, sailed across the border from Gaza,
and launched the deadliest massacre of Jewish people since the Holocaust. They crossed internationally
recognized border. They slaughtered over 1,200 civilians. They kidnapped babies. They kidnapped
elderly women. They kidnapped young men, all of them at a music festival. They went into the
qubits. They murdered people there. They filmed it. They celebrated it. And the international
law crowd did not rush out to scream about international law. Very few of them rushed out to
condemn Hamas. There were no emergency seminars on the laws of armed conflict. There were no
demands for immediate condemnation from the UN Security Council. There was, instead, a noticeable
pause followed in many quarters by attempts to contextualize the attack, explain Hamas's grievances,
and they pivoted immediately to concerns about what Israel might do. There were also marches
in the streets on college campuses, celebrating Hamas. Where were the norms? Where was the rule of law?
Where was international law? They had nothing to say on the situation.
When Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine in February of 2022, it was a textbook act of aggression and
a violation of international law. One sovereign nation and invading another without provocation.
They shell department buildings. They targeted hospitals. They deported Ukrainian children.
The UN Charter supposedly exists precisely to stop this sort of thing. And the post-World War
2 order was constructed around the idea that this kind of naked territorial conquest was done.
We were going to do these things anymore. Strongly worded resolutions and furrowed brows and
lecturers on international law did not stop Vladimir Putin from the invasion of Ukraine.
He shattered the norms and the carefully constructed legal architecture. The left tried to treat
a sacred scripture. But they only do that when the United States and Israel act, don't they?
In international law and practice restrains only those who choose to be restrained by it.
The nation's most likely to be restrained by international law are the Western democracies
the left doesn't like. It's not an accident. Much of what passes for the international legal
consensus these days was built in the decades after the Cold War during the period of American
dominance when the global left, including within American institutions, worked diligently
to construct frameworks that would him in American power. Treaties on the laws of war applied
asymmetrically. Hamas can fire from hospitals and they pass and everybody shrugs. And when Israel
responds to the firing from the hospital it becomes war crime. A UN Human Rights Council
populated with nations with records that would embarrass a medieval warlord, mock the standards
of international law. The left insists are real with the United States acts. The architects of
international law, they were never neutral. The architecture was never neutral.
The architects using their architecture wanted to constrain the rest of the West while providing
cover for everybody else in the world. When the left screams about international law and context
of Iran, a regime that has spent 50 years funding terrorism developing nuclear weapons frameworks
and calling for the destruction of Israel, they're not invoking a principle they're deploying
a tool built to restrain the United States and Israel. Real principle would look like this,
you're outraged at Hamas for what it did and you were willing to say international law
means nothing if the most dangerous actors on the earth face no consequence for what they did.
But the left doesn't want to do that until they're willing to apply their standards consistently.
Those of us watching, we're not obligated to take them seriously. They built the cage.
The left did. The left built the cage. They labeled that cage civilization.
But they only ever meant to put two nations inside that cage. Both instead are soaring,
unrestrained over Iran, liberating the people, the left cares nothing about. I don't know if you
guys saw this yesterday. There were protests in Ireland, in Dublin, and good white progressives
of Dublin came marching into the streets to the protesters to attempt to shut down their protest,
telling them that they didn't know what they were talking about, telling them
Iran was the victim. These were Iranian resident, Iranian people who have fled to Ireland,
who were protesting Iran, and the Irish were lecturing the people who have fled the tyranny,
telling them they didn't know what they were talking about. It's genuinely nuts to me to
watch what we're watching. You know, when I took international law and law school, I was
fascinated. I took EU law, which is nuts, by the way, the European Union law is insane.
I took that. I also took the, I took international law and international relations and law
school, and I was just, it's so absurd. When there's peace, nations construct frameworks by which
they engage in trade with each other. But the idea that there is this rubric of international
law that will prevent a country from invading another country is nonsensical idealism,
believed by a left, that only really believes that stuff when it works on the West in large part
because they constrained the United States of America. It's just interesting to me that
we have these people today who are throwing these words about.
And they only care about those words. When it applies to the United States, and there are a lot
of people right now who are hating on the United States, the Democratic talking point. Let me
read you the Democratic talking point right now that is circulating this morning. This is from
Brian Schatz, the Senator from Hawaii. This war is costing a billion dollars a day. In one
effing month, we will spend more over there than we needed to save health care for more than
two million Americans. They literally are taking away your food and your health care for this
regime change, war of choice. You noticed that too, the war of choice. We chose to fight it now
before Iran had so many weapons we couldn't stop them before they had nuclear weapons. They couldn't
stop us. And you know who else is embracing this, of course, is Marjorie Taylor Greene, the former
Congresswoman, some of you liked until a few months ago. War with Iran is costing American taxpayers
a billion dollars a day. Most American taxpayers will never receive a social security check because
it'll be bankrupt by 2033. Most Americans can't afford health insurance policies because they're so
expensive. All of them rushing to the standard Democratic talking points. They went from screaming
about international law last week, describing about the cost of health care this week when they couldn't
deter it. It's just remarkable to me to see this. By the way, you know, the United States,
Sank and Iranian ship in international waters. And literally the same people are treating international
waters as some sort of sacred territory where because of the sacred territory, you're not allowed
to attack you. You're not allowed to take action because it was international territory off the
coast of India as if international waters means it's some neutral territory. Again, these are the
same people who defended paragliding terrorists and drone attacks on hotels. Let me just, let me
just read you. This is Said Abbas Aragchi, who is the foreign minister of the Iranian Republic. The
U.S. has perpetuated an atrocity at sea 2,000 miles away from Iranian shores. Forget Dina, a guest
of India's Navy carrying almost 130 sailors was struck in international waters without warning.
The U.S. will come to bitterly regret precedent it has set. What about the USS Cole? You know,
my family lived in Dubai. When I was in 9th grade, we had to house the USS Samuel B. Roberts
enlisted. A lot of them stayed in our house. The USS Samuel B. Roberts, when I was in 9th grade,
was in the Persian Gulf, hit an Iranian mine. They saved the ship. The ship thankfully didn't
sink. They had to put it in dry docks in Dubai and the sailors, a lot of them, I would wake up in
the morning, literally no exaggeration. Wake up in the morning and there would be sailors
asleep on the floor in my bedroom and around our house. They'd sleep on the couch. They'd come
over. My parents would cook for them, do laundry for them. It was a wild time, frankly,
to be alive and to be growing up and have sailors come to our house all the time. My parents would
organize a block party and stuff like this for the enlisted. It just wonderful, wonderful people
in a wonderful time. The United States was not at war with Iran, but the Iranians mined territory
and one of our ships hit one of the mines. The Iranians tried to blow up my school when I was in 5th
grade. The Iranians tried to blow up my dad's oil platform when I was in 9th grade. The Iranians
do all of these things and suddenly this is a war of choice and we will rue the day with the
precedent we set at nonsense. Seriously, this is nonsense. It's a cool stuff by the left,
intended to him in the United States and Israel. It's always about Israel.
And I'm glad we have a president of the United States right now who said, no,
I'm glad we have a president of the United States right now who said he was going to do what he's
going to do. I'm glad we have a president of the United States right now who's decided we've
got to stop humoring a rogue regime. I saw a supposed intellectual heavyweight who writes for the
Atlantic claim that we had free reign of airspace over Vietnam during the Vietnam and the
news war now. John McCain, of course, who was shot down would be very surprised by this, but
that's what they claim that this is just like Vietnam now. They have no metaphor for this
engagement. They had no metaphor for what the president did in Venezuela. They had no metaphor
for these things that the president has been able to do. They have no metaphor for success. All
they can do is expect to lose. All they can do is wish that we lose. And what we're seeing is
open cheering on the idea of the United States losing because these people hate Donald Trump so
much they would root against the United States and cite the failures of international law.
So I'm in Washington DC. If you didn't know, I will I'll fly home tonight. I had meetings of the
right wing conspiracy up here as well. And what is notable to me being here is the buzz and
think tank world and among the journal said that there is concern about the in game in Iran.
There there actually is. There is concern about whether or not the people who take over will
we be able to trust them because you can't trust the existing Iranian regime. There's also concern
about will whichever regime come in will it be more destabilizing? Will there be a civil war?
Will the Arab partners be involved with it? Things like that. There are some legitimate concerns.
But what are the other concerns that I find notable are the number of people who are wondering
how this is going to help Donald Trump? Will will it emboldened Trump? I have a sneaking
suspicion. In fact, this was a I had a 830 meeting that must go unmentioned. And one of the things
that came up in the 830 meeting was the potential for the Democrats to be so unhinged like take
the James Telleriko stuff. How insane the Telleriko stuff is. And then you got the grand
planner stuff in Maine. The guy is a Nazi and we're watching from the bulwark crowd to the main
stream Democrats coming in and saying, Hey, he's not really a Nazi. So he had a Nazi like that to
he didn't have a Nazi like that to. He actually had a Nazi tattoo. He's been on a podcast of a
Nazi. He has retweeted at Nazis. He has credited Nazis and he given them admiration. The guy is a
Nazi. Looks like a Nazi talks like a Nazi thinks like a Nazi. He's a Nazi. And for years, the
Democrats like I I'm watching people who vilified me. We thought you were a man of principle.
Now for backing her shall walker in the Republican general election. I warned people not to back
her shall. I told people it wouldn't go well. He was the nominee. So I supported him. I was
happy to support him. He was the Republican nominee. And I'm watching people who vilified me
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That's J-E-R-R-Y dot AI slash L-I-B-S-Y-N. Welcome back. It is Eric Erickson here live from
Washington DC, the phone number 877-973-74525. I want to I want to spend a little more time here.
I'm not done with this topic and we got lots of stuff to talk about but I just I want to go back
to the James Tolerico stuff and I want to go back to Tolerico because the Democrats are suddenly
freaked out. They walked into a trap. They didn't understand that they walked into a trap. They're
having a hard time wrapping their head around this. I want to play you. This is some audio from James
Tolerico doing a campus conversation on immigration. You got to listen to this guy.
Do you know any undocumented immigrants? No, I did not. When I was a teacher on the west side of
San Antonio, I taught a lot of students who were undocumented and I don't want to stereotype but
those students tended to be the most patriotic, the hardest working students that I had in the
classroom. And again, I haven't stated this enough to say this definitively but there are
interpretations of certain passages from the Torah where some folks will even say that there is
there's some subtle instructions for how to perform an abortion in the ancient world, certain
things to drink, things like that. Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans
community needs abortion care too. Defending trans texas is something we have to do every day
at the state capitol. And you better believe I'll be giving sermons on that too. I want to
talk to be aware of is that that modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than
two biological sexes. In fact, there are six is both masculine and feminine and everything in
between. God is non-binary. So this idea that to be a Christian means you have to be anti-gay and
anti-borsion, there really is no historical theological biblical basis for that opinion. So this
idea that to be a Christian means you have to be anti-gay and anti-borsion, there really is no
historical theological biblical basis for that opinion. And if you think about it from a Christian
perspective, what something interesting that Jesus does throughout his ministry is he is breaking
first century norms about women talking with men, learning from women, having women lieutenants
in his movement. And this was something that was kind of unheard of in the first century.
The longest conversation Jesus has with anybody in the whole Bible is with the Samaritan woman at
the well. And so this affirmation of women as full and equal people is a huge part of the Jesus
movement, especially the early church. And then the last I think story I would go to is the story of
Mary. Mary is probably my favorite figure in the Bible, the mother of Jesus. And she is an oppressed,
peasant, teenage girl, living in poverty under an oppressive empire as a Jew. And she has a
vision from God that she is going to give birth to a baby who is going to bring the powerful down
from their thrones, going to scatter the proud, who is going to send the rich away empty. I mean,
this revolutionary song that she sings is called the Magnificat. It's actually been banned by certain
authoritarian regimes because it is so radical. But I think all this in terms of
in context of abortion because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation,
God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke. I mean,
the angel comes down and asks Mary if this is something she wants to do. And she says,
if it is God's will, let it be done, let it be, let it happen. So to me, that is an affirmation in one
of our most central stories that creation has to be done with consent. You got that?
The annunciation, by the way, there was no asking of consent. You can read Luke as he says,
read Luke, God chose someone he knew would do this. There was no, hey, will you let me? This is
what's going to happen. And she says, okay, the pregnancy of Mary, since the very early Christian
church, and again, y'all, there are history books on this. And he doesn't appear to have read a
history book. But there are early histories of the church where the very idea that because Mary
carrying Christ, he something could have happened, the Romans could have killed her and could have
killed the Christ. That's why the early church was so prolifed. You know where the word abortion
comes from? The slang term for the Russia, further the Russia, the the Roman trash heap was the
abory. And an abortion was when a woman would give birth and they would dump the child on the
ashyp in the trash pile and let the child die. And the early Christians would go rescue the children
and raise them as their own. And it was considered freakish by the Romans. And it was one of the reasons
that the Christians were persecuted because they were saving the Roman children and raising the
Roman children. They were that pro-life. And they was their abortions, the Romans abortions. And
the early church would save the kids from the abortion, which at that time meant putting them in
a trash heap and letting them die. And Taloriko wants to twist all. He believes that God's non-binary.
By the way, if you heard that one clip where he says that there are six genders, he's the only one
in the room wearing a N95 mask. Of course. He believes that the illegal aliens, who he calls
undocumented, are more patriotic than others. He uses unironically the phrase, the phrase latinics.
Yes, he actually uses the phrase latinics. Our southern border should be like our front porch.
There should be a giant welcome mat out front. Other statements of his, let me read you this
tweet there, but by the grace of God, go I as a white man, I'm susceptible to the same radicalization.
Thankfully, I was exposed to diversity as a young age and explicitly taught the values of
equality, inclusion, and justice, but not every young white boy is so lucky.
I mean, these are just bizarre. Also, here's another one. You're going to love this one.
Ask citizens. Every one of our neighbors with a uterus. Every one of our neighbors with a uterus.
Not women, our neighbors with a uterus. White skin gives me an every white American immunity
from the virus, but we spread it wherever we go through our words, our actions and our
system systems. We don't have to be showing systems like a white hood or a confederate flag to be
contagious. That's it. By the way, the Texas capital can be a hostile environment for our
trans neighbors. Our office is the first in the history of the Texas capital to add pronouns
to our official business card. So this is James Telleriko's record. Modern science obviously
recognized that there are many more than two biological sexes. In fact, there are six, he says.
Then there is this. I often think when reclaiming symbols, I think about the American flag.
I think the confederate flag is a symbol of treason and terrorism, but the American flag
is such a complicated symbol for most of us. In many ways, like Jesus, like the cross,
it's been co-opted and in some ways, it's true meaning has been betrayed. I often think you
got that. Y'all, this is, this is, again, this is probably one of my favorite ones and there are
so many of these. Before we go further, I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs
abortion care too. Defending trans Texas is something we have to do every day.
You got that? The trans community needs abortion care too. Oh, and then there was this very
critical one. The poverty is violence. Pollution is violence. And yes, prison is violent.
Prison. This mental system of violence builds something new, something better, something rooted
in love. Y'all, there are so many of these. It was not hard. It was not hard.
Hard to find these. His Twitter account is full of them. We must confront racism and misogyny
everywhere from the schoolhouse to the White House. Words have consequences. Dehumanization
always leads to violence. He authored the legislation in Texas to require DEI training
in every school in Texas. The record is there. Now here's the thing that you have to understand.
The Democrats chose him over a black woman because they thought he would be more relatable and
less controversial. And I was telling the Democrats in the primary, you guys don't understand.
You do not understand what this guy is going to do to you with moderate white people and with
black and Hispanic voters. You do not understand. And you know, the response right now is that,
well, you know, we did okay with Hispanic Democratic voters, but Hispanic Democratic primary voters
happen to be super, super, super liberal. Most Hispanic voters are not primary voters. They're
general election voters. And I raised the red flag. I warned everybody that Jasmine Crockett
is not going to be as radicalizing as James Tallerico is in a general election. And they're like,
nope, we can't have the black woman. So they have a guy who put this on Twitter, quote,
black Americans in a church, Mexican Americans in a store, Asian Americans in a spa, radicalized
white men are the greatest domestic terror threat in our country. Got that? He's talking about
shootings by white men, Asian Americans in a spa, Mexican Americans in a store, black Americans
in a church, radicalized white men are the greatest domestic terror threat in our country.
Meanwhile, this party won't reopen homeland security at a time of war. Oh, wait, here's another
one. This is this is him with us recline. How do you think about the competing claims of different
religion? Oh, Christianity need to be more true than other religions. Do you believe there
to be exclusivity in these beliefs that they're incompatible with each other? I believe Christianity
points to the truth. I also think other religions of love point to the same truth. I think of
different religious traditions as different languages. So you and I could sit here and debate
what to call this cup. And you could call it a cup in English. You'd call something else in
Spanish and French. But we are all talking about the same reality. I believe Jesus Christ reveals
that reality to us. But I also think that other traditions reveal that reality in their own ways
with their own symbol structures. And I've learned more about my tradition by learning more about
Buddhism and Hinduism and Islam and Judaism. And so I see these beautiful fake traditions as circling
the same truth about the universe, about the cosmos. And that truth is inherently a mystery.
And I think the most destructive thing is when religion becomes an end in and of itself.
That's when religion implodes. My pastor always told me growing up that religious symbols are like
aspirin in order to work. They have to dissolve. They point beyond themselves. If you get lost in
the symbols, if you get lost in the words, you're missing the reality that we're all trying to describe
and talk about. Now, if you're a white progressive, that may sound normal to you, but it sounds
bad crap crazy to anyone who's an Orthodox Christian. The idea that other religions also point
to the truth. Jesus Christ that I am the way I am the truth. I am the light or the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me. Christianity is an exclusive, exclusive religion. Islam is an
exclusive religion. He says that it points to the truth, the reality, which is a mystery. If it's a
truth, how's it a mystery? The symbols have to dissolve. No, the symbols don't have to dissolve.
If you're a progressive white person, you may listen to this and be nodding along with this,
but this is how alienated you are from everyone else. You listen to this and you think that this
sounds normal, but to people who actually believe in their faith, this is not just offensive,
it's heresy. And that's who the Democrats have just put up to run for the Senate in Texas
of all places. In their never-ending quest to turn Texas blue, they put up someone who's less
relatable than Beto O'Rourke. Question, has anyone told Pam Bondy that the Dow is below 50,000?
The House has subpoenaed her to the House Oversight Committee to discuss her role in the release
of the Jeffrey Epstein files. The Dow is now under 50,000, so I guess she gets to talk to it. It was
such an embarrassing performance. So there's a rumor, by the way, the rumor in Texas is that the
president may try to appoint Ken Paxon to be attorney general and push Pam Bondy side. I don't
think that's going to happen. I do think that he's going to try to find somewhere to put Ken Paxon
as the president is aligning now to endorse John Corning down in Texas since he came in first and
heads into that messy three-month primary. By the way, if you want to support a very good candidate,
Chip Roy is running for attorney general in Texas. He's made it into the runoff.
So Ted Cruz was nearly blown out of the water in Texas when he ran for the Senate the first time,
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going into it, Chip got 31% of the vote. If you're a conservative in the United States,
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Police consider supporting Chip Roy. He's a long time friend of my family. His kids are
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but he's got to get there, but he needs help to do it. Just in any event, we've got this shake-up
happening in Texas allegedly. The president getting involved. The Ken Paxons supporters are
screaming about it, but looks like the president wants to shut everything down there because he's
worried about the Senate now, which he should be. Also, we got the situation with Steve Danes
in Montana. This leaves a bad taste in my mouth. So Steve Danes, who I know and I like, he's a
senator from Montana, qualified to run for office again, was left unopposed and five minutes
before qualifying ended. He showed up with the U.S. Attorney for Montana, who is a friend of his
and Donald Trumps. Danes withdraws himself from the ballot. The U.S. Attorney puts his name
on the ballot and now there's not going to be a Republican primary in Montana. Now, for you
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