S19 Ep1: The Good Glow - Suzanne Jackson - A New Era

The pressure, the burn out and all the moments she never thought she'd share,

welcomed to you the Guglo podcast with Suzanne Jackson.

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I am so excited to bring you a little mini season of the Guglo over the next six weeks,

six episodes, starting with Suzanne Jackson in a way

we've never heard her speak before.

So this conversation is different.

It's a different version of Suzanne and I think you'll agree when you listen.

So we're used to Suzanne as a powerhouse.

We've watched her build incredible businesses over the last ten years.

From the outside looking in, everything looks perfect.

Although Suzanne has admitted something recently,

she said last year was one of the worst years of her life.

And I really wanted to talk to her about that because the version of Suzanne

that we've seen showing up in 2026 feels different.

And I wanted to really sit down and dive into that with her.

Like what has changed?

And when Suzanne gets into this conversation,

she starts talking about the day, the mistakes,

feeling lost in something she built and once loved,

how maybe stepping back from her business for too long

and that was a huge mistake, she speaks about the process now of finding her way back

and how she is rebuilding.

It's vulnerable and it's real.

I hope you're going to connect with this in a big, big way

because I think it's really beneficial for us as women to show up in an authentic way

because it will help us feel less alone.

If you've ever lost your way a bit or you're trying to figure out what's next,

I think this episode will really resonate with you,

really appreciated Suzanne's honesty.

And I asked her afterwards, is there anything that you've said

that you want me to take out?

And she said, leave it all in there, it's real.

And I really admire that.

So this is Suzanne Jackson in a way we've never heard her before.

So we're out in Sozu HQ, Suzanne.

Thank you so much for sitting down with me on the Google Earth today.

How are you?

I'm great, thanks.

Well, first of all, it's great to see you.

You look great.

And welcome to my humble abode.

This is Sozu Cosmetics here.

Yeah, this is where all the magic happens.

You know, I was driving up here and I can see your trucks outside your name over the door.

Like, do you ever drive up here and just take a minute or is it just go, go, go?

No, I don't drive up and take a minute.

I'll be honest with you.

I think it's just, it kind of become numb to us, you know,

because I'm in it so long now.

It's 10 years, 10 years last year.

Sozu Cosmetics was.

So I feel I've just come accustomed to it.

But when I walk through the door, I'm very proud of the people that are here,

all that we've achieved.

And we've got two brands, Stripping Gold and Sozu,

which not, you know, many Irish founders have.

So I'm very proud of that.

And yeah, it's, it's like, this is my world here.

I love us.

I engross myself here.

I am so interested and captivated by everything you're doing this year.

Obviously, we go way back.

Yeah.

We were together in the radio days.

We were there when you were creating your brand,

blogging all through the work day.

I know.

I know.

It's actually tough.

And as we do.

But just to see this year, there's something different.

I see Taylor Swift with her ears and how things change and evolve.

How have we gotten to this point and what is going on?

You know what?

When you're in it so long, like, obviously, I started blogging to 2010.

So that's like a long time ago.

And then I created the brand in 2015.

And over the last 10 years, trends have changed.

My followers have grown with me.

Everything changes all the time.

And you got to pivot with it.

And you got to vice, I suppose.

You got to realign what you are as a person as well and what you want for your brand.

It's different because there's more clarity.

I feel Sosu has gone back to his roots.

And I feel we're stepping into our second decade.

So it has to be different.

You know, I was 25 when I set up the blog.

I think 27, 28 when I set up Sosu cosmetics.

So I've even changed as a person.

But now it's all about going back to basics.

Going back to the roots of Sosu, which is what made us known in the beginning, which is glam.

And leaning into that, you know, I think for a while Sosu was trying to play in that clinger era

because that's what it was all about post-COVID.

But it didn't really suit us.

It wasn't the DNA of the brand.

So if you're asking me what's changed is just more clarity.

So you've led people in a big way this year.

I feel like you took a risk with that.

You had to have felt like that was a risk.

You laid it all out on the table.

And it was almost like you were rolling the dice.

Where did you get the courage?

Or was there a moment, like was there this rock bottom moment where everything became clear from there?

Yeah, like we had a challenging year last year.

You know, most people that are listening to this will know that.

And over Christmas, I did a lot of thinking about, you know, what I want for the brand

and how I want to show up as a founder.

And I think when you're quiet online as a founder, sometimes, you know, people have assumptions.

They have their perception.

And most of the time, people probably don't really know the true Sosu or Suzanne.

Or Suzanne Jackson for that matter.

So I was like, you know, a business is hard.

It's messy.

The decisions that we have to make every day.

The problems that we have to solve all the time.

People don't see that online.

Everyone sees the polished versions of business and the success and the money and the fame.

And all the brand selling, all the product selling.

But they don't see the hard work and the commitment of the dedication that goes on behind the scenes.

And the messy middle, which can be very challenging, which we had a bit of that last year.

And I just wanted to kind of show that side of business.

And like the customer or your follower, whatever you want to say, they love truth.

And that was what I wanted to come forward with was just truth and show how hard it is.

And I also think there's an element of people not knowing how involved I am as a founder

and thinking that maybe things came easy or that it was a lock.

So I really wanted to show the work that I and the team do on a daily basis, how hard it is.

And it's such a saturated market, how we are going to cut through that noise.

And I think by just being your vulnerable self, bring up people behind the scenes, showing them how businesses build created

and how you navigate problems is what they want to see and is what will pay off.

Because it's no longer a creative product, market a product and sell a product.

That doesn't work anymore.

You have to be your raw authentic self, you have to let people in.

And of course, that's going to come with judgment and it's scary.

And sometimes when I'm looking at the edits, I'm like, oh, maybe they're even a bit polished.

But as we get into it, I'm going to get even more raw.

And I think that that's what I think it's what the customer wants.

I think from the outside looking in, because obviously I've followed everything you've done over the last 10 years.

And it was almost like you had made us.

You'd gone to this kind of, you'd gone off into the big time, right?

And I think as Irish people, we love to support Irish brands.

We love to get behind Irish people.

But it was like you had almost gone global.

You didn't need, we all just thought Suzanne's grant.

You know, you sailed off into the sunset.

But do you feel like you were distant from the brand for a while?

Like you obviously did dancing with the stars.

We saw you kind of traveling and things like that.

Did you feel like you had, you'd gone?

I definitely do feel that I, yeah, distant.

Me and the brand kind of went through that phase of where I didn't love it anymore.

If I'm really, really honest with you.

What happened was I worked extremely hard from day dot, right through.

And we've spoken about this before.

And I was working all the Irish godsends.

And I was doing everything in my power to create this brand to make it a success.

And that came to a point where I was just burning the candle at both ends.

And I was burning out.

And I kind of listened to a few podcasts, you know, over the years.

And it says like, you know, you don't burn out.

You kind of just lose your passion.

And I think that's what happened because you become operationally invested in the business.

And you're in operations.

You're in the boring stuff that does take your creativity away.

Yes.

And but I just, my passion for the business was starting to burn out.

And then COVID came.

And we were obviously a lash dominating brand.

Very glam dominating.

And of course, that stopped overnight.

No one was wearing eyelashes.

No one was contouring.

But the tan did very well.

Yes.

But during that time, I was like, oh, God.

Okay, this is probably a moment where we can now start again, you know.

And maybe I've brought the brand to where I can.

Do I look at bringing in a CEO now?

Because this is obviously the time to do that.

And do I step back and find my creativity again?

Because I was in there every day.

Yeah, I get that.

I just was burning out, you know.

And I did that.

I stepped away for a year.

And I brought in a CEO.

And it was great.

Bush.

I think the founder needs to be in a founder created brand.

Does that make sense?

The founder needs to be there.

She needs to be at the helm of things or he.

And I think step on back for that year was, yes, I found my creativity again.

And I loved my dancing with the stars experience.

I think I brought the brand three steps back.

That's what I feel.

And that's not on the CEO that was here or the business at the time.

It's just that the founder wasn't making the decisions of where we were going next with product.

And I think it lost its way a little.

And that was when the rebrand came in and the new packaging, the, the, the new door packaging

came through.

And I just don't know if that ever stuck, you know, as this is so soon.

I think it lost its identity.

Yeah.

Is it like you were looking at what you had created from the outside in?

Yeah.

Exactly.

And what do those moments feel like, like, obviously Dylan and yourself, you guys are absolute

cellmates.

I know that you turned him for everything.

Were you able to even admit it to him yourself?

Like, or do you just suffer in silence?

I didn't even know myself what was happening.

You know when you're in it, you just can't see the wood from the trees.

Like I knew that so soon needed a change of direction.

I knew that it needed a little bit of a rebrand.

I knew that it needed fresh eyes and someone with, you know, more experience.

But actually, in hindsight, that wasn't what it needed.

It just needed me to just go, hey, maybe for three months, you know, find my creativity

and my passion again and come back in.

But I took too long.

I took too long off.

And so when I came back, I was three years, I feel behind and now I'm trying to catch

up.

And that's fine.

That's business.

That's maybe just my way of thinking.

Who knows?

But I do think everything happens for a reason because when we, when I came back into the

business, we were playing into that clinger and aesthetic.

We were playing into that softer packaging.

And I thought, yeah, maybe this is us, you know, because I didn't know what I wanted.

And so when you don't know as a friend of what you want, this is what's going to happen.

So less than to learn.

And then we were playing into no lashes.

Like, we were doing photoshoots last year when I look back.

And there's no eyelashes on anyone.

And I'm like, we're an eyelash brand.

That happened.

You know, and I layered it.

So I'm like, God, you know, what?

So I just said, you know, over Christmas, rice.

I am coming back to what I know.

So Sue is.

And what I love is glam lashes back to black packaging, bring in the customer.

My father behind the scenes again, like I did in the early days.

And yeah, I hope that it's going to pay off.

Well, it's starting.

It's definitely starting to.

But yeah, we speak about these like dark nights of the sale.

Like sometimes I'm in, I'm in a, I'm awake all night.

I'm like, I like to change my life with what everything that's going through my brain.

And I think when we're in the darkness, like we have this courage, you know,

when it's just you and your thoughts and you feel creative, you're like, I am going to do this.

I know you've spoken about your dark night at the sale, like one night when you were up all night, tell us about us.

Yeah. So we were launching a two new category with just skincare.

And I was like, we had just sat down to look at the mood board and how we were going to launch this.

And it was all very keen.

And over Christmas, I made that promise to myself that we're not going to be clean, clean anymore.

And yeah, I was just there going, it's not right.

It's too clean. There's no makeup. And now listen, of course, it's skincare.

You can't sell skincare, you know, with a girl with a full face of makeup.

But I didn't develop these products to be skincare.

I developed them to remove your makeup, to prep your skin ahead of makeup.

So you've got your mask to give you the glow.

You've got your undripe patches to like me.

You know, go on, seamless. You've got your cleanser to actually remove your glue, your liner, your lashes.

So when I was looking at the mood board with the team, I was like, it's too clean girl.

It's skincare. We're not a medical grade skincare brand.

Nor will we ever be a nor I don't want to be.

But I definitely want the customer to know that this product was built for prep and removal.

So I just couldn't figure out my head, you know, what direction I wanted to take.

And then I was at home that night and it was really late.

And TIEG was with me because he was staying with me the time because we were filming find a point of view.

And I just woke up and I said TIEG and he talked to you.

And he's like, what?

He's like, for TIEG, he's like, 19.

Did he go in like, I was like, TIEG?

I need to talk to you.

Press your core TIEG. Press your core is quick.

Get the camera on.

I was like, I need to talk to you.

I need your opinion. And TIEG has been around so soon around me for a long time.

You know, so he knows me. And I was like, this is too clean girl.

What's your opinion?

He was like, yes, it's on your right.

And I was like, okay, I think we need to go back to our roots.

I think we need to lean into the makeup, the glam.

And he was like, I'm all for it.

But I was even ringing Paula to just make sure to soundcheck myself that I'm going down the right route here.

Because I wanted it to be the rollers in your hair, getting ready for your night out, your prep and your skin.

And then you're coming back from your night out and you're removing your makeup.

And everybody was on board.

But then it kind of brought me down memory lane of the brand and why we started?

Because I was in that glam thinking.

And then I started looking at packaging and old packaging.

And I'd been down with my mom that night showing her the new lip peptides that are launching this year.

And they were so clean girl again.

And I just didn't feel excited.

So I was just on the floor, mood boarding that night, looking back at the lashes that we do at Lauren Pope,

the tan we do at Livy Atwood.

And these are all cool girls, the reality girls, reality TV girls, you know.

And I was like, nah, something's not right.

I need to get rid of the nude mauve packaging, go back to black packaging,

lean back into unapologetically glam because that's what I am.

And I don't know why I was trying to fit into clean girl aesthetic.

I think that's just because it was trending and everybody was jumping on that bandwagon.

You kind of do find yourself sometimes jumping on these trends.

But that night I was like, no, I'm going back to basics.

I'm coming into the team.

I'm going to present to them that we're going back to heavy lashes and heavy liner and glam put in a classy way.

And I'm going back to black packaging.

No, I thought the team were going to jump out the window and go, no, we can't.

We've just spent two years going this direction, but like, you know, this is what business is all about.

You can pivot and change at any moment in time, never feel like you're stuck.

And if it's not bringing home true to you, then you need to make the change.

But to my surprise, the team were like, oh, thank God you set us.

Wow.

Yeah.

And what is Dylan saying these moments to you?

He just looks at me and goes, you're crazy.

You know, he's like, you know, you're crazy.

He knows that like I get these crazy thoughts and that I changed my mind a lot.

But he also knows that that instinct within me is powerful.

And those just sometimes those changes pay off.

He said to me, Suzanne, I always said this to you that you are a lash brush and contour business.

And he did.

And when I think back and I was probably just my ears were closing over.

I didn't want to hear it.

He always said to me, why are we not shooting the girls what lashes on it shoots?

He did actually ask these questions.

But I just didn't even hear it because I was so engrossed in the vision that we were going in.

And he was like, I told you so and I was like, no, you did.

But Dylan always did say that we are a lash business first.

Now I know the lash category is slowing down.

But half lashes are in, clusters are in, hidden agendas are lashes that you apply onto the lash liner.

I love them.

Yeah, they're fab.

So he always knew what was right.

But he also has to, I suppose, let me just navigate.

You know, what is Portugal gave you that Dublin doesn't?

Peace, solace.

It is, it's the place where I completely unwind.

I slow my thoughts.

I slow, I'm full ADHD.

We know that, like, you know, cancer still, my mind works.

It is a million ideas all the time.

It's like a rad on a wheel, literally.

But when I go to Portugal, whatever is in the air, it completely slows down my breathing, my thoughts.

And I can actually think clearly.

So, like, I've been away in Portugal for the last two weeks because I found myself again in that cycle of food.

Like, back to back meetings, working from 5am till 10am at 10pm.

And I was like, no, I'm just going to get to Portugal for two weeks and just, you know, recalibrate the thoughts.

And it works because when I was there, I've decided to do master classes now to 45 plus.

Yes, I saw that I love this.

That came through my, my head.

And I was like, yeah, we're doing it for, where did you get that idea?

Are you in the shower or are you lying dead?

Well, like, where does it come to you?

And it came to me because I was, so actually how it started was, we did a Mother's Day event here.

You might have seen it on my Instagram where we invited all the employees, all the team's moms in for the day.

And this room was full.

And they were all 55, you know, 60, 70, you know, and they loved it.

The joy on their faces.

They didn't know how to use a makeup or Georgie.

They didn't even know what the complexion palette was.

They didn't know underwear, you know, underwear base at the SPF or what that would do.

That would give them a glow if they wore it on its own.

They didn't know the basics, like the basics.

But when Paula and myself taught them and sat with them and went through the product and how to use it,

the cheerjoy on their face.

And they were buzzing leaving here and they all looked a million times more happy.

They looked better selves.

The hidden agenda lashes on and everything.

They looked incredible.

So that was the start of it for me.

And they were all telling me at the end, says, and no one appeals to our age group.

And what age group are you talking?

55 plus.

Yeah, 55.

All the mums of the staff.

And they were like, no one appeals to us.

You know, we used to have TikTok and YouTube.

But we just want to learn like this in front of a mirror how to apply lashes or how to apply contour

or how to use the complexion palette.

So I just kind of took that away.

So that was like the seed was planted.

So then when I was in Portugal, when I slowed down, these thoughts started to kind of grow in my mind.

And I was brought me back to that day and I was like, you know, we needed your master classes around Ireland for women like that.

Who don't know how to apply makeup or don't even know so Sue has makeup for their age group.

And so I spoke to Dylan about it and he was like, yeah, absolutely.

So then I think this is a great idea.

I think we need to run with this.

I don't think, you know, people know that so Sue Cater is to that age group.

And get on your stories and talk to your followers and see.

And when I got on stories that night and I spoke about it, oh my God, the DMs were full.

I'd love to come or I'd bring me and my mom would come and bring my mom and bring my auntie.

I'll see this is great.

No one else is doing this.

No, I'm sure people are doing this, but that was just the response of my DMs.

So I was like, right, we're going to do that.

So I've already had the call yesterday.

We've set up four locations starting from the 12th of April each Sunday.

And we're going to go all around Ireland.

We're doing Dublin, Cork, Denmark and Galway.

And that's how Sue started.

Georgie, that's how Sue me started.

Wow.

Are we going to see a reality show with your family?

Oh my God, why do you ask me this all the time?

And no, I had been asked over the years to do that.

No, I have had producers come to me.

I found a point of view though.

I've already, yeah.

I've met with producers already on this.

Can we expect to see this on a bigger platform then say,

not that there's much bigger than social media, but.

Yes, definitely.

I mean, I haven't said no.

I mean, we're still in talks.

We're still flashing out the idea.

But yeah, I've had people approach me.

And a few producers actually saying that it's really strong.

It needs to be on Netflix.

It needs to be on, you know, or T.E.

Forage of media, whatever.

And I was like, well, let's have the chat.

Listen, I'm always open to an opportunity.

But I don't want to take away the authenticity that is there.

I don't want to heavily edit it, heavily scripted version.

I found a point of view of what was to happen.

And look, it's very early doors.

Who knows?

I mean, I'm only on episode seven, which is coming this Friday.

But yeah, it's so good.

So founder, P.O.V. comes out every second Friday.

There's literally hundreds of thousands of people watching it.

And it's like a fly on the wall.

Look at how your business has changed and how you're running it now.

It's absolutely brilliant.

Was it scary to kind of almost reveal that you'd had a tough year

and you were changing?

Yeah, it was.

But I thought this is the only option.

Did you feel like weakness at any point?

A little.

Did you honest?

Yeah.

Because I don't like to show vulnerability.

And I think we saw that dance with the stars as well.

Like, I don't like to show my softer side.

And I think as a woman in business,

you sometimes need to or I felt you need to show up as the strong ass woman all the time.

But actually, these days I just go home and have a cry

and I just want to shut the world away.

But I feel that sometimes I think maybe people don't,

some people don't resonate with me.

And I don't know why they don't.

Is it because maybe I don't have kids?

Is it because I'm not similar to them and with their family life?

Like, I do feel that.

I'd be honest.

I do feel that.

So I was like, I need to show them the real Suzanne.

And I did get a good response on dance with the stars when I showed my true self, you know.

So I was like, you know what?

We had a blip last year.

I need to show up.

I need to admit that.

And I need to, you know, bring people behind the scenes to show them that I'm a human.

There's also a lot of people behind this brand.

There's a lot of livelihoods here.

And that, you know, we're trying our best for mistakes to happen.

Things do happen out of your control.

However, I think it's how you fix this, how you bounce back and tell you learn from that is the most important.

I think how you've shown up this year is actually the opposite of weakness.

I know I text you back in January.

Because like, I wanted you to know that you are impacting people in terms of,

I think when we see somebody who has this amazing successful brand, be real.

Yeah.

About how hard it is and how sometimes you have to pick yourself up and you have to reinvent yourself.

And I think the force at which you've come at 2026 and the resilience you've shown is so inspiring.

Thank you.

For people watching on to know that they can give themselves a second chance.

Absolutely.

They can pick themselves up.

And you've picked yourself up more times than I'm sure we've ever known.

Yeah.

Yeah.

For sure.

This time felt a bit different.

I definitely had to pull myself back up.

But like, you know, I was very, very, you know.

Yeah.

It was a tough time.

I won't lie.

But I think success teaches you how to grow, but struggle teaches you who you are.

You know.

And I really just kind of found.

I also discovered her resilience I am.

I didn't know I was this resilient and I am unbreakable.

That's how I feel.

I feel unbreakable.

And I know there's been times I probably should have broken or.

I don't, maybe there's some people out there that wish that I break, but I won't.

I am unbreakable.

And I stand over that.

So you won't break me.

And I get that from my mom.

But also because I have worked too damn hard.

To less.

Anything.

Take it away from me.

And you know what?

I also said to my mom one day, if everything did come crashing down.

Everything was to take it away from me.

I would build a brick by brick again.

And I have that belief in myself.

And that's something that can't be taken away from me, you know.

Well, that's so powerful, Suzanne.

What do you think people get wrong about you?

I think people get, I think they get a lot wrong.

I think they think it happened overnight from me.

I think they think that it was easy.

And that it was luck.

And that, you know, she'll never, you know, sell like that again.

I will get back there.

Trust me.

Are sales absolutely amazing right now?

No.

But does a business go through, you know, peaks and troughs?

Yes.

And but I have a wonderful team.

I have a very supportive husband.

I have a very supportive family.

And at the end of it all, that's all that really matters to me.

You know, we will.

We will rise again.

Trust me.

I'm coming out of those flames like a phoenix.

Oh, I can feel it.

I'm like, she's coming.

She's coming.

I'm going to give it my best shot.

Let me tell you that.

But I think people think, I think they think a lot.

And I don't know why I'm focusing on the negatives now.

But there is probably more disliked towards me than I think any other founder in Ireland.

I do feel that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I do.

I do.

I don't think that at all.

I feel that.

I feel that for many reasons.

I hope you're wrong.

Maybe it's just because I'm in it.

But on the flip side of that, I do have such wonderful supporters that like are with me

truth thick and thin.

And the DMs that I guess, like, oh my god, there's days it's it there and you'd cry reading

them.

They're so supportive.

And they feel like family.

They feel like friends.

But I just feel as a founder.

I.

Yeah.

Against all odds.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I think for anyone listening, I think it's really important to reach out.

To your friends, family, people you look up to and actually congratulate them or give

them a pat on the back because you never know who might need to hear us.

Mm-hmm.

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We're coming to the end.

Thank you for being so real.

What product are you most excited about at the moment for this year?

Yeah.

We have foundation, skin tint, and concealer coming together.

And oh my god, are they incredible.

There are, you know what, it's a category I haven't done in so soon.

It were 10 years, 11 years this year, and we've never done foundation.

Can you believe us?

So I'm buzzing to have that come to life.

And it is on real.

Especially with Paula Callan on your team now as well.

She's amazing.

She's the complexion queen, really, isn't she?

That's it.

When I came back into the business two years ago, oh god, three years going to, I was like,

right, I need someone to come on this complexion journey with me.

Who was it?

Paula Callan.

If there's one girl that knows skin and knows complexion inside out and has skin looking

like skin, it's her.

And we've done an amazing range together.

Talk to me about launch mornings.

Are you all standing around the computer like do you put that pressure on yourself?

Not anymore.

No, no, no, I wish.

No, no, not like that anymore.

You know what?

When you've got 600 skews, we've 600 skews.

That kind of dwindles away.

But what we do is get balloons.

Don't we care?

Here it is over there.

My social media manager.

We get balloons.

We get donuts.

We have teas and coffees and we're like, we celebrate the day.

But no, we don't sound around the computer anymore.

Maybe for this.

Maybe for this one.

We might.

Yeah.

Stay tuned to founder POV.

This is Ann.

Thank you so much.

I am so inspired.

I'm so proud to know you.

So thank you for, you know, having us here rolling at the red carpet, like you always

do.

We appreciate you so much.

Thank you, Georgie.

You're the best.

Thank you so much for tuning in to the Go Glow today.

Thank you so much to Suzanne for just showing up in a real way.

Being a true soul sister, you know, not putting on a mask, telling us how it really is and

showing up as her authentic self isn't that just the best way you can show up.

And it is so inspiring for other people.

That's not the end of Suzanne.

I have a bonus episode where I saved one question for her.

I asked her, what is the thing that you think people are most

curious about when it comes to your life?

And her answer really surprised me.

I was surprised she went there.

So that's coming your way on Wednesday.

We also have a quick fire around with Suzanne.

We talk about everything from her biggest lesson this year, a risk that really paid off,

a risk that didn't, what her dream day looks like and what she orders in a restaurant.

The most important question of all, there's some really lovely moments in there.

And guess what, Jamie's going to join me on this bonus episode on Wednesday.

We're going to dive into the biggest takeaways from the episode, especially that bit on

the strength that takes to be vulnerable because I know that I struggle with that sometimes.

So we're going to jump into that and a little bit about our own relationship when it comes

to that as well.

So I hope you'll tune in on Wednesday in the meantime.

I hope you have a great week.

If you do one favor for me today, I'm not going to go all Steve and Bartlett on it and beg

you to like and subscribe.

But if you have a spare minute at the end of listening to this podcast, please give it

a like five stars and hit that follow button on your podcast app because actually, Steven's

right, it does make a huge difference to the podcast.

Before I let you go, I have six spaces left on our first ever running retreat run to you

in Cornwall, in June, I'll leave a link in the show notes.

This is going to be a five star weekend.

We're going to go for coastal runs.

There's no pace, no one's timing you.

We're going to have sunrise, swims, morning meditations a weekend where we just come together

and really connect, drop our shoulders.

And if you feel like you've been missing that connection with yourself, this is the perfect

weekend to reignite us.

I always say our retreats are not about fixing something that's broken.

It's a beige rediscovery and something that's already inside of you.

Thank you so much for tuning in and I'll see you on Wednesday with Jamie.