S20 Ep6: Bonus Ep - Home Alone, Mountains of Ironing & Sophie Murray

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1:01You can find Centrum Multibiotics Complete in Tesco, Dunstores and Boots in store and online. So, welcome to the bonus episode. Actually, I got that leaving things out from you because you always leave out your Connecticut and your vitamins. I was like, that's actually a really good way to remember to do something. Yeah. And you know what I've started to do. I went to the chemistry today and I bought one of those hill boxes that has Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, all the days of the weeks on it. And I put my vitamins and my medication in each little box. Wow. So the organization from Kerry is definitely rubbing off into other areas of life. How did you enjoy Kerry? Did you have a fun weekend? Kerry was amazing. We had four lads down there in the end, running the Kerry Ultra. And it was a sunny, slightly cloudy day, which was the complete opposite of last year. We're at

2:05last training for the whole time. So it made it a way more pleasant experience. And I actually got to see some of the Kerry way because last year it was so wet and misty of just head down and play through the 60 kilometers. But this year there was taken in the views and sites and proper Kerry Boots. It is a absolutely amazing place. My favorite video from the weekend was Nass you running. But the video you sent me from the pub on Saturday, nice, where you guys are surrounded by I was going to say Katie Taylor fans, but more West like fans before the fight. And it looks like you guys were seriously outnumbered. Yeah, we went into a pub called the Laurel, whichever it will probably know in Clarnie. And there was a group of I'd say 25 ladies behind celebrating one of their friends 50th and it turns out that one of the girls that was with them is actually in Guglaue Rung Club and Catherine. You can't go far but I've bumped into someone

3:06from team Guglaue, can you? It's getting more and more common like pretty much everywhere we go if we go away, someone will come up to us and say they were either on one of our trips or they're at a Rung Club event or they were at the concert hall or something like that. When I used to work in a restaurant, I grew up working in restaurants and I remember being in Dublin Airport once, a passport and all I get here was chicken wings, chicken alfredo and a tiramisu and it was this guy. Someone trying to order their dinner, I'll see you. It was this guy who was a dry cleaner in Rath Farronham and he used to have the same thing every time he came in, he used to always sit on table nine. I was like, he's literally shading his order, but that's what happens when you see people out of out in the wild and you know them for one thing in particular. Do you know what pops into my head? It's a scenario and it's so random. Did he take the menu of you every single time and look at it? Probably. But you ordered the same thing? Yeah, and poor

4:13your quarantine used to come in and order the same thing every time to one and nobody had. Garlic bread, a diacote and a pizza margarita. Garlic bread, a cow can, a pizza margarita. Is that a good impression? Yeah, well it's actually pretty bang on. I think poor your quarantine was the most famous custom rui tat. Martin King used to be in all the time and obviously he's Rath Farronham, royalty. I used to work in little scissors in Rath Farronham. But anyway, sorry, would you like me to order a duploric Harrington's order in a my famous pop-out box? Yeah, one. So what was it again? Garlic bread, pizza margarita, a diacote. Hello, George Eda. I would like a garlic bread, a pizza margarita and a dillish coke, please. It's so good every time. I'm glad you don't do it that often though because it kind of gives me the yuck. No offense. So let's get into the podcast with Sophie Murray.

5:18My future sister-in-law, she is marrying my little brother Sam. There's an 11-year age gap between myself and Sam and we have my brother Mick, Nini and Doe, the center and head of the household and my sister-in-law Kira. So Sophie is, I suppose, the newest member of the family in terms of, she came in last, but she's been around for years and years and years. We're so excited for them to get married. In the time since we've known Sophie, she's gone on to create an incredible career. She's one of Ireland's biggest influencers. She's built an incredible business and we felt like season 20 was the perfect time for Sophie to come on to the podcast because she's been through a lot over the last couple of years and had a lot of learnings to share with the world. So you were here on the day that we recorded. What did you think of the podcast and that day in general?

6:21Yeah, what struck me about the conversation that you guys had me and Sam were sitting on the couch watching and listening to the conversation and it seemed really short, you know, and that's always a sign of like a really good conversation because we were like hooked in both of us, we're kind of looking at each other, kind of giving each other the odd nod and like, you know, acknowledgement or whatever, but it seemed to me like it felt like a conversation that you guys might have, you know, opened your mom's face having dinner one night, which is really natural and warm. I've had lots of deep, meaningful conversations with Sophie around the dinner table and she's got a wise head in her shoulders and like you said, she's been through a lot last few years, but also like her life has been like pretty, let's say, colorful maybe or for want for better description. And you know, she's got, she's been through a go-bid and that gives you a wise head. Yeah, and I think I was certainly blown away and I kind of had a broad idea of, you know, how I wanted to interview Sophie, didn't realize so much would come up and the reason that I split

7:23it in two was because I felt like there was so many huge pillars in the podcast. So we had the piece around alcohol and how she got herself back on track and that was so huge. Then we had her beautiful dog, Belle, her mom's dog, he was stolen from her house last year and then we have the huge piece at the end, right, self-worth and self-loathing and, you know, her career as well. So as I was editing it, I was like, oh my god, I just really want people to sit with the first half on the alcohol and how she kind of turned things around and just let that kind of filter through and then next week go back for the second half. So I think I made the right decision. Yeah, no, definitely, it was like it was a good listen. Me, myself and Joe listened to it on the way back from Kerry. As the first time Joe stopped talking all began, we were about, we were about like locked in on us and that was the first time I heard the edited version of

8:25it. So it was really good. Listen, I really enjoyed it. Joe's such a talk monster, isn't he? I'd be chatting to you about everything, which is great. He's great because I'm not necessarily like that, especially after running a 60k or whatever, but yeah, Joe stopped. We put it on, he goes, you want to put the podcast on, we put it on, we're listening to it the whole way up. So we had the good discussion and stuff after it as well. Do you know who are a great duo, Joe and Sophie? Because I feel like they both bring a lot of fun to the room and they're both so high energy and they get on so well. Yeah, they are, they're good. They'd be good, double-eyed. Maybe they should have podcasted. Yeah, I imagine. Okay, so let's get into the piece on Sophie just shared that, you know, she got into a little bit of a habit of having a glass of wine on a Monday, Tuesday, and it just, she started to drink at home a little bit. Not during the day, it wasn't a big problem,

9:29but she just felt like she was norming herself a little bit and she was just getting through the day, having a glass of wine going to bed and doing the whole thing all over again. So she wanted to kind of overhaul her health and what she did was, first of all, she spoke to her therapist about it, which I thought was a great move. And then she kind of created this evidence wall. So she got a calendar, she got different color stars and every day that she didn't drink, she put a gold star on the calendar and every day she did Pilates, she would put a purple star on and every day when she did her 10,000 steps she'd have a different color star. And then at the end of the week, end of the month, she could see how many stars she had and it's just sort of a great way to create new healthy habits. That's such a simple way to do it with like visual cues. It brings you back to the thing you were saying about the start about leaving stuff out to give you a visual cue,

10:29but then you're given yourself, it's almost like a reward system, you're putting the chart on and you can see it there and you're like, okay, well, so that's two edits, three days. And then suddenly it's five out of seven days or whatever. And that is, it's just a brilliant way of sort of getting momentum in your progress. Yeah, it was such a huge journey. And that is exactly why I split the podcast and have because I wanted people to go away and think about, okay, what could I do? And how can I build up my evidence wall? It's just such a simple tool. It could be to deal with anything that like you could do with going to gym, going for a run, getting to bed early, reading a book. How many books have you read in a month, don't think? Yeah, that's a really good idea. I might get a star chart for everybody in the family and every time someone gives me a dig out, they get a star. That's not the same thing. That is not the same thing as a personal progress as opposed to helping mom with the ironing or whatever.

11:35By the way, the ironing is as high as a house. It's up to like my neck and Jamie declared a breakfast this morning that he's he's getting back to project me and he's going to the gym tonight. Well, first of all, I couldn't like, you know, in the same way that I think you'd find it very difficult to cut the grass. I cannot iron. I am terrible at it. It really pisses me off. So I'm not any use to you there. It's just like your... It pisses us all off. You're not used to me cutting the grass, you know? But yeah, do you went off and we really supported you as a family and really held down the forest and you're back to the gym? But I am thrilled for you and I'm happy for me too that I can iron in peace. But let's talk about alcohol and I think during COVID, you know, it became quite easy to pop open about all who remembered what day it was, you know, during that time. And there was a lot of loneliness for people, a lot of isolation, a lot of big, big feelings. I know I think it was

12:41easy for people to look forward to a bottle of wine in the evening. But something I've never really spoken to you about this before, but I did notice that when you had a job a few years ago, it wasn't communicable or nothing to do with radio. You had a job for a short time. How long were you there? Two years. And you... I felt like you were deeply unhappy in that job. And I did notice that you would drink midweek. That is something that we do not do in our haste anymore. But I did kind of notice around that time that you seem to be numbing yourself a little bit or having a wine stay in with a wine. Yeah, I was definitely guilty of that and having a couple of glasses of wine a couple of nights a week. Not to the point that I'd be falling into bed or anything like that, but it just felt to me like it was a little bit of a, you know, every day when I was in

13:41that business was starting stressful and like going all the way through to 7, 8, 9, a clock a night, still dealing with stress all the time. And I definitely was like, I just have a glass of wine tonight. It's easy to just then have a second one and then go to bed or whatever, but it became definitely a habit that was... Would you have called it a habit, yeah? Yeah, probably was a habit. It was probably just sort of like a little ritual of like, oh, I can have a glass of wine there. I've finished my work day at half-niner, whatever at night or dealt with whatever issues are going on in all. But also the laptop was on your lap. You know, you were still working like well into the night in those days. Yeah, yeah. And that is not good. So there was no boundaries in that business and there was no boundaries in my life with myself. You know, so put the minutes I left there, that all just changed. It was just like, oh, that stress is gone. And the whole that happens and that ritual that I had, which had sort of

14:48bolted itself on to the stress of the job was then gone. And then I stopped it. Yeah, because I even said on the podcast like we'd have wine Wednesdays in Communicor, but that was more of a fun thing. Like we were young, you know, we just got together. We were like watching box sets during the week. Yeah, two in the morning sometimes, but not like milling bottles of wine, but it was like, we got really addicted to a couple of box sets. Like that was around the time we're like breaking bad. It was a few other amazing box sets. The killing was on the new book. Once we stayed up till 20 past three watching the killing. And then I went to read the news at 5am, the next morning. Yeah, such a good, that was a brilliant series. So good. But yeah, like, yeah, it's not like we were milling bottles of wine till three in the morning. It was just like a glass of wine, but they ain't getting hooked into something. And it was a little, it was a little stupid at the ritual we set up of like, yeah, wine Wednesdays, but got that was a long time ago.

15:48Yeah. And I think a big part of it is acknowledgement that you are maybe on a slippery slope, or you are enorming yourself and you can numb yourself at lots of things. You can numb yourself scrolling on TikTok till 1 o'clock in the morning or, you know, with food or whatever it may be. But I loved the self-awareness from Sophie. It's just not not a way that she's dealing with her emotions, which is what I talk from us. Another thing that I absolutely adore about Sophie is that she is so open and she's sought a big personality. Like I said, herself and Joe are kind of the center of the fun in our house. And she has always been that way. And they're, you know, inadvertent commas fame didn't change her, you know, she's still the same person that she was when we first met her. Yeah, like we've been on night's eight with Sophie and she's, you know, has cues of people coming up to talk to her. People see you all. I was so surprised in that first app and I was like,

16:51this is mad. And maybe I didn't give Sophie enough credit for how much people love her. But they obviously do. And, you know, you'd be there and there would be people coming up to try to get photos with her, stopping her talking to her and she gives everyone the same amount of attention and they get photos of people and gives them time. And the one thing for me about Sophie is, and I've often sent her texts when we've got home from an evening in your mum's house where she's literally spent four hours in your mum's house. And of three of those four hours, she's been on the floor with our two kids and mixed kids playing with them and giving them so much attention and so much time. You know, there's a, I've a, you know, distinguished memory of her like dancing around the kitchen table with here. And to some Disney song, I can't even remember what it was. It was on from Wicked. Yeah. And like, just going mad with here and just giving her so much time and being like worships the ground she walks on. But that's just Sophie. Same, same way with kids as

17:56she is with adults, just giving everyone a lot of time. And it's such a lovely trait. What did you think about the bit where Sophie said, you know, when she left the bubble in Kaleini, she was almost able to be her true self or not care as much what the village thought of her. That's a real Irish thing, though, isn't it? Like, you kind of worry about what you're a man next or is thinking of it and like, going back to the party baritone podcast and the spotlight effect, like no one's looking at you. Yeah. So, you know, when she left, like, the Kaleini bubble, she was obviously worried about perception and stuff like that. And they felt like she was far enough away from it to be her true self, which is amazing. And sometimes people just need a change of environment in order to do that. Yeah. And that's really also really hard to do. So like, fair play to her for like taking the leap and doing that and and doing starting with the Agony and saying that she did, which is brilliant. And like, that showed that she has a wise head

18:58and her shoulders and she's able to give people some decent life advice at a really young age. Yeah. Actually, if you haven't listened to the Paddy Barrett episode, I'll link it in the show notes. He talks a lot about kind of following your dreams and living a life very true to yourself. So if you enjoyed Sophie, you'll enjoy Paddy because I suppose he, Sophie has the life experience and he has kind of the science, which is really nice. And so yeah, I absolutely adored this podcast. I loved the bit about the alcohol. I loved the bit about the chart. And I really loved the bit about her relationship with her mum. And we have football day coming up. So that's our annual party that we have in our house where we transformed the house into kind of an American football stadium. It's kind of weird. So yeah, anyway, we're looking forward to that. But I am off to Marbaea for the

20:00weekend for Audrey's 40th. I'm so looking forward to it. I do get very kind of overwhelmed, leaving the kids. I think when we're going on the trips and stuff, it is easier because I'm working and I'm really distracted and busy. But like going on a girl's trip feels like a choice, you know? And I will miss them so, so much this weekend. But you're going to have a lot on your place. Just saying, because last weekend, I was absolutely frazzled. Even though I had my mum, I moved in with her, had so much support. It is still, I think we're in an overwhelming chapter with the kids. Yeah, they're busy and they both have obviously, well, there's a six-year gap and they both have very individual demands. It's not like there's a one-size-fits-all solution for both of them. But I'm planning a lovely weekend. We're going to go and maybe get a takeaway up in Miss Sala, which is my favorite, a little Indian takeaway on Cliny. Peter loves it. I love it. Have you planned this? Yeah, I've told Peter the last night. I was like, we were going to sneak

21:05you Miss Sala on Friday night so she's body and on that one. So we'll throw towel in the bath, give her a wash, put in a jami strut. It's wild to me that you put the child in the car at like 9 o'clock at night and go out for like if I'm working at night or I go out, you guys will often be on this kind of trip to Miss Sala in the dead of the night at 9 p.m. And I'm like, you know, tally goes to bed at half seven. Like what is happening? I'd love to be put in the garden at 9 o'clock. Let's be honest. It'll be about half seven. Should be nice to sleep. Maybe she'll even fall asleep. I'll just lift her in, plop her into bed. Me and me will have her take away. As if. Peter's got you in the last Saturday and then, I don't know, Sunday morning we might head off down to Vogue or something for breakfast and do a few other nice little bits. Okay. So a five-star weekend in the works for you. I cannot wait to come home to an absolutely spotlessly clean house on Sunday. Dinner in the oven, candles lighting and just a sense of zen or a calm when I walked through

22:07the front door. I think I'll replicate the house for the way it was when I came home last Sunday. Which was us. Chaos. It was like the home-loan house of Christmas with the pizzas when the pizza man came. You know that bit and he hit the statue with the car and comes in and there's just people running around like lunatics. That's what I came up to. And then you got really pissed off and left because you needed to go to the gym and it was taken too long. All our stuff was taken too long. So, okay. So for you come home on Sunday, we'll see now. Well, if you are at a loose end on Sunday, please listen to the second half of the podcast with Sophie. I'm so excited. She said something so meaningful in this. She said, you know, I asked you about self-love and self-worth and she said, well, before you get to that, you have to get rid of self-loathing and we have this huge, deep and meaningful chat about that. And we go even deeper

23:11on the second half of the podcast. So I'm so excited to bring it to the world. And Lake Garda, we've only like 11 places left for Lake Garda. Yeah, 11. Wow. And Lake Garda, if you are interested in coming on your own on a trip, this is the one that I would recommend because we are in a beautiful spa hotel. The lake is on the back door. It's a very together trip. We have breath work. We have the shake out run and everything is very centric to the hotel. So we've 11 spots left and actually it's such a five star trip because I think the the journey on the way back from the run as well as on a boat and you kind of take a little cruise that was we've done this twice. So we obviously did it by ourselves and we did it with the group last year, but like one of my favorite moments is that bit where you have your medal, give your little beer and the hand you're waiting for the fairies. It's like a public

24:14fairy that you get a free pass for. You get on the fairy, go up to the top deck and you float across the lake or cruise across the lake probably is a better description to all the little tiny little towns dropping people off and then eventually you get back to where our hotel is. And just that whole moment of reflection and being you know with the group again as a as a single group of like a hundred whatever people is just so nice. One of my favorite moments from last year and I won't say who the couple are, but they were walking back from the boat to the hotel holding hands and they were like we haven't done anything like this for ourselves in years and they said they fell in love again. Yeah. It's not amazing. That's so cute. And also what I love is locking up when you're on the boat and just seeing everyone from team Guglaud just on such a high and supporters can come on this trip too. So if you want to run and bring your mom or a partner or friend

25:17or vice versa, if you want to be the supporter, the more the merrier we have a ball on this trip. So I'll link it in the show notes. I think the trip doctorate is so special because as well I was reading it in one of the reviews we got today from last year and it's because as it's together and it's gonna get on the same flights then we all travel together on the on the coaches we get and then you're in the hotel and when you arrive in the hotel the hotel is like spectacular so there's that feeling of like oh my god we're here and this sort of collective energy that's sort of kind of rolls. It's like a big happy school tour that people actually want to go on. Yeah. She's good. Yeah it's just a gorgeous weekend. So we will be back next Wednesday. In the meantime Sophie will be back with us on Sunday and if you're looking for something to listen to in the meantime a link Paddy Barrett in the show notes and actually Sean Alinsky if you haven't listened to Sean Alinsky she is an incredible girl. I'm sure you know who Sean is but she shares her story of

26:21having a stroke when she was in the gym when she was just 30 years old so I'll link that in the show notes too and we'll see you next week.