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In this episode of Talk Tracks, we travel to Rockville, Maryland, to meet the Statter family and their 24-year-old son, Ethan - a nonspeaker who began spelling his thoughts at age 18.
What started as a breakthrough in communication quickly became something much bigger.
Through letterboard spelling, Ethan revealed himself to be a poet and a deeply observant presence within his family. But he also began sharing experiences that challenged everything they thought they knew. He described telepathic exchanges, encounters with deceased relatives, a spiritual realm he calls “the plane,” and a near-death experience that profoundly altered his sense of purpose.
For years, the family kept these experiences private, unsure whether anyone else would understand. Then they discovered they were not alone.
In this conversation, Ethan’s parents and siblings reflect on diagnosis, doubt, belief, and the emotional reckoning that comes when a child you thought you knew begins to speak in ways you never imagined.
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Hi, everyone. I'm Kai Dickens, and I'm thrilled to welcome you to the talk tracks.
In this series, we'll dive deeper into the revelations, challenges, and unexpected
truths from the telepathy tapes. The goal is to explore all the threads that we've
together are understanding of reality. Science, spirituality, and, yes, even unexplained
things like side abilities. If you haven't yet listened to the 12th of the tapes,
I encourage you to start there. It lays the foundation for everything we'll be exploring
in this journey. We'll feature conversations with groundbreaking researchers,
thinkers, non-speakers, and experiencers who illuminate the extraordinary connections
that may defy explanation today, but won't for long.
In today's episode, we hear from an incredible family in Rockville, Maryland.
Ethan is 24 years old and he was finally unlocked when he began spelling his thoughts on a letterboard
at the age of 18, and like many families that you've heard on this podcast,
spelling his thoughts on a letterboard opened a door. That door led somewhere unexpected.
Along with poetry and complex communication, Ethan began describing connections to ancestors,
a spiritual plain similar to what others have called a hill, and experiences of telepathy within
his family. A secret they kept locked away. They even joked that before they heard the stories
of other families via the telepathy tapes, they thought they were alone and leading a double life
because of it. In this episode, you'll hear from Ethan's parents and siblings about diagnosis,
doubt, belief, and what changed when Ethan finally had a reliable way to communicate.
But you'll also hear from Ethan himself. I should note, the whole family was together recording
this episode over Zoom, which was so fun. And Ethan was often up and down in and out,
so you'll hear him in the background at times. First, his sister Madeline gave me a brief
introduction to the family. So right now we're in Rockville, Maryland, which is where my parents live
with Ethan and Jack. We all grew up here and now kind of have gone our separate ways, but always
come home and I think Ethan's definitely what brings us all back together home. Ethan's mother
Jennifer describes what it was like with Ethan from the time he was born. So Jennifer, when did
you start to notice that Ethan might be different from other kids? It was pretty obvious right away.
For some, you know, he was my third and fourth. So it was a twin. He was just so flat and helpless
that I thought he was going to you die in his sleep. So I had one twin in the bedroom and one
twin next to my bed. It's like you just know something's not right. You never tried to eat,
never. It was an easy baby, but there was something flat. And then he was diagnosed pretty early on.
And for you, when you got the diagnosis, I mean, was it pretty hopeless or were you given any
shred of hope that you'd have a connection with him someday or that he'd be in there? It was
pretty hopeless because right away they said send him to school, do ABA. And I was like, I'm not
comfortable. I didn't want to send my other kids to preschool. So they didn't, there's no options
out there for you to do it on your own. Ethan started spelling when he was 18 years old. How did
that change you just to meet him for the first time? And I felt terrible because I really treated him
sort of like my baby. I'm just speech therapy. I took him to OTI. I tried to, of course, get him to
talk. But when it didn't happen, I was like, I'm okay with this. He's my baby and he's with me.
And everyone, you know, acts like, oh, we knew he was so smart. We didn't really know he was so smart.
I knew that, you know, he was logical. He wasn't going to maybe walk into traffic. But once he
started to talk, it's horrible. You can see he was smarter than anybody right from the get go. I mean,
he would just make jokes about commercials on TV. I'm like, how are you making a pun about
a commercial? How are you? He would read these poems and there'd be a great God. I mean, and he
didn't really go to school. He was homeschooled. Everyone's like, oh, we were such a good teacher.
I wasn't. We watched TV. We watched baby tapes. You know, we sang together. We went to the park
all day because that's what he did. We went to the pool all day. For many non-speakers, the school
system is not a viable option. For Ethan, he was unable to sit still at all. His mom worked with
him and tried to meet him where he was at. He spent many days walking or running at parks, swinging
endlessly or swimming. All of that movement was necessary for him to feel regulated enough to
attend therapy sessions and speech or occupational therapy or music therapy and eventually RPM
which helped him form the motor pathways to spell out his thoughts on a letterboard. Once Ethan
started spelling, his family finally started getting to know him in a very different way.
Here's his sister Madeline on her early experiences with his typing. So when he started typing,
I was obviously really excited and I would get like really short messages from him and his
communication partner at school. Like, I would wait at the computer and be like, oh my gosh,
what is he going to say? It felt like an overnight click of we were able to type together.
I went to one session and observed his communication partner and she kind of walked me through
how to assist him, how to hold the iPad and then it was like, boom, we figured it out. It was like
all of his observations of our family, all of the like interpersonal relationships he has with
all of us. Family drama, funny story is like everything from our past, he was able to kind of
tap into and we just like talked for hours and hours and hours. When Ethan started spelling to
communicate by pointing to letters on a letterboard, he revealed a love for poetry writing. His poetry
was super exciting for me because in my knowledge, I was the only artist in the family. I was like,
I always need you in my favorite person, but you're this amazing poet and we can sit and talk
about art and how we create. I always loved Ethan so much, but then to like crack open this whole
other side of him was just incredible to see how amazing he truly is. Yeah, that is so incredible.
Do you have a favorite poem that he's written that you want to share? Yeah, I think my favorite poem
of his is I am a tree. This one is one of the first ones I assisted typing and just I just felt
such like pride and amazement as I was just watching him type. One letter at a time, this like
amazing poem with very little edits. Here's Madeline reading the poem. This is I am a tree. I tower
over humanity, stoic and strong on the outside lonely and longing on the inside. I know laughs
from cries. I know your friends and soulmates. I live for your gossip and gawk in the face of your
enemies. I have wisdom behind my bark. Know the air you breathe comes from my love for you.
Providing is a thankless job. My life provided air to your ancestors. I watched them grow.
I've been standing on this earth since before your first breath. I have eyes and ears that
live through many more decades than you have existed. My heart breaks for those who can't see
my domination over our ecosystem. They only pay attention to me if my leaves change color too early.
If the buds of my flowers forget to bloom, look beyond the limbs peeling and broken saplings.
Look beyond the hungry parasites that invade me. There is love in God's design.
My roots are dug so deep into the earth. My creation was not a mistake. Love is in the veins of
being from heaven and earth while you are here. Be kind to the trees. I love that. Wow. I love it too.
It's also he's super tall. He thinks like six four. So we always kind of joke that he towers
over us. So I love the parallels of like him being so tall and comparing the trees of just
cowering over everyone with the wisdom that they have. I love it. Beautiful. Well you've shocked
that there was this poet in there. It was overwhelming. Ethan's typing skills took off around 2020.
And then he slowly began revealing to the family his telepathic ability and so much more.
He kind of waited to introduce the telepathy at like part to me bringing up kind of things that
happened in my life that I haven't told people. Even things of like being bullied in middle school.
He's like, oh, I can give you insight on that. I can give you insight about this thing that
happened in college about my performances, my head, I studied music. So like my head spaces and
performance and how I would get nervous like all of these things. One time I sat down and he could
tell I was thinking like, can you read my mind? Like how am I ever going to tell people if he can?
Because this is a little bit crazy. And so I was having these like almost doubts and thoughts.
He sat in the next meeting. He was like, you're thinking of eating this for lunch. You're thinking
about this story from the past. He goes, and you're thinking about this boy on hench who you
want to kiss. And I was like, I was like, Ethan, I was like, how do you know that? He's like a part of
life you went on a day. I know this. And he told me details of like someone's profile. And he
tell you how he knew it. Like if you could see through your eyes or just click into your mind.
Like how did he say he knew the profile, the hinge profile? He just had a description and it was
almost like he did see it through my eyes just because of how just clear it was so like simple to
the point. But his abilities didn't end with telepathy. I happen to be really into dreams. I think
they're super fascinating. And something I would do every morning is I would wake up and I would
just as a conversation started to be like, Hey, Ethan, what did you dream about? And we would
type about his dreams. And then he mentioned, you know, I see angels in my dreams. And he said,
my angels, and he named three names. And I didn't know one of them. And I was like, huh,
what were their names? My great grandma, Nanny Jean, my great grandma, Nanny Bert. And then he said,
Aunt Harriet. And I was like, who's Harriet? That's weird. And so I was like,
mom, who's Harriet? And my mom's jaw literally dropped. She was like, oh my goodness. Like that's
my other grandma sister who passed when I was really young. And I just didn't hear that name
a bunch. That was like, do you see these angels when you're awake too? And he was like, yes,
I do. I was waiting for you to ask. And it kind of even went a step further
that he was kind of more and more shared how intertwined we've been. And it was everyone
believing him or were you? I mean, I think belief in a family can take a while. And I've watched
this with many families. You know, sometimes just like a holdout. Like how did it go for all of you?
Like around the mediumship that's left. Even the competence, just believing that he was writing
those words. Totally. I think the typing everyone believed all along, everyone was on board.
He shared with me first the medium stuff and the top of these stuff, you know,
delved into psychics myself. So it made sense that he told me first. So when the swiping
tapes came out, like, do that and bolden you to talk more about it or like, how did that affect
your family's psyche? I mean, that's got to be so strange to be like, I'm alone and then be like,
whoa, this is a major, this is bigger than I thought. Yeah. So I thought it was really difficult
at first. I was like, I feel like I'm living with this major secret, like living a double life.
And we are really afraid to share with other people. There are so many people with
Catholicism who dotted just the typing period. So it was really scary to, first of all,
like, it stings when people have those doubts. But then when you're getting these amazing poems
and messages, we were so scared to share because like, you didn't want anyone to like jab at
this amazing experience we were having. Honestly, like the first two years, it felt like my whole
family was in this secret club together. So it's really amazing that the telepathy tapes came out
when I did. I was curious what Ethan's parents had to say about all of this. Here's Ethan's mom,
Jennifer again. How is all this changed? This is all very new to me, but I wasn't as soft as my
husband. The minute he said it, there was no question. Like, of course, and there were always weird
things. I mean, having a child with autism was really hard, but there was something about Ethan
that he would get it. Like, sometimes I had four kids, I would be overwhelmed. He just knew
she's going to lose it. I'm going to chill and I'd be like, how does he know that the other three
don't, right? The three would be nasty. I'd have to get in the car and pick somebody up. Anything
would just get himself up and get in the car. So it was like, it was almost like, you know, he was
mothering all of us. The key knew. Here's Madeline again. My mom was on board. And then the next
person we talked to was my dad. My mom was like, oh my god, this is going to cause a divorce if he
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And my dad just starts crying. And he's like, what? And my dad is one of those people who's,
you know, I would say very earth based science based logical dad. So I was so relieved and happy
that he kind of could use this amazing example to instantly hook dad because Ethan never met
Harriet. Here's Ethan's dad, Joe. It really was Aunt Harriet that sealed the deal for me.
I was very close to her. It's my mom's sister. And she was like the fun and I always wished that
the kids had met her and spent more time with her. And it was just wasn't in the card she died
when she was like 70, but she was like a very close confinon. And then when my wife showed me Ethan's
typing and said, you know, I talked to spirits and I talked to nanny Gina. I'm like, okay, that's
whatever. I wasn't believing at that point. And I talked to nanny Bert and that's my father
and law's mother. So it was a great grandmother. And then he said, I think it was in this nice
lady named Harriet. And I was like, oh my, because there's just no way. I've not spoken about this
person. And he never seen a picture of her. Never. Wow. And he described her to T and in a way,
the way he put mediumship in the way that he talked about her or when she was quote unquote
visiting with us, her personality just came out. Was it words that she said or like expression
she used? The words she said to me because I was doubting. She called me by my nickname that no one
really knew and exposed that, which was chap, C-A-G-K. And then I forget what I was saying. I was like,
come on, this is just, you know, I can't believe this. And she goes, um, please stop because I'm
talking to you from the fucking dead exact words. Okay. And I was like, oh my god, that's just
that's her. Wow. What a gift. Yeah. Madeline tells us another story that helped convince her
dad of Ethan's mediumship abilities. Then another example was our uncle Arnold who passed. He
recalled fishing stories that him and my dad shared that no one would know. What would be an
example of one of the fishing stories he's spelled? Oh gosh. Like, you know, someone got seasick
and someone threw up off the boat. Someone did number two off the boat. Like funny things that,
I mean, only people who were there would recall you don't come home and say, hey, I threw up off the
boat. But Ethan's laughing saying, you know, uncle Arnold told me, you know, you almost had an accident
on the boat. This shocked Ethan's dad Joe. Here he is, recalling the fishing trips in question.
It would be my father-in-law, Arnold, or friend of my father-in-laws and my brother-in-law.
And it was just men being, you know, jerks out in the middle of the ocean. We would drive
50 miles out to sea to try to catch big fish. And we were terrible fishermen. And it was just,
we just make it fun in each other the whole time. So Arnold would bring up these stories about,
I always got seasick. Be getting sick. Or, you know, my father-in-law not knowing how to operate the
boat or going through a storm. And it was impossible for Ethan to know all this stuff because he wasn't,
he wasn't there. How did that change you or your view of the other side after life? Honestly,
I'm still very, very confused by it. And I struggle with it. But I'm much more accepting and much more
open to the aspect that there's more than one life and that being so, you know, have energy
and energy doesn't go away. It just transfers. Did you grow up underneath any religion or faith
philosophy or pretty agnostic? Pretty agnostic, I would say. I am not a religious person. I was,
I was forced to go to Hebrew school, but I, I was pretty cut and dry and pretty black and white.
I didn't think there was a god and I figured when you died, you died and, you know, you just,
you were sleeping forever and that was it. That's got to be just unbelievably mind-altering to start
hearing the stuff. Was the telepathy like, was that just like, what the heck? Or did you,
do you think of that? Was that harder to believe? Compared everything else, the telepathy was easy
to believe in. First off, his typing to me was just amazing in the sense that we never knew he could
read. And when he went to, he just started typing. And to me, that was like the big kind of, okay.
This is for real because I never knew he could read. And he's writing and his vocabulary was
that of a 50-year-old. Yeah. It's someone who has lived, like, like, really lived and the way he
used his words and the way he delivered his poems. You know, he wrote a poem about my wife.
Who's it called? You're my angel? My mother is an angel. My mother is an angel. Ethan's poem,
my mother is an angel. It can be heard on our backstage pass. But I've got to tell you,
this has been the last six years, it's been just, I'm a lucky guy. There's times I still don't believe
it. But then Ethan has a really neat way of just bringing me back, not down to earth, but
up to beyond. I was curious if Ethan had ever brought up going to the hill. Has he ever brought
up the hill? When you guys heard about that in the 12th of the tapes, what did you think about that?
Here's Ashley. He's always called it the plane, but it's the same concept as the hill.
More basically, he can communicate with people who are both dead and alive.
Some of, like, people who are spiritual, who he knows, he can communicate with on the hill.
But I think it's our dead ancestors who he communicates with. When did he first talk to you about
the plane? Like, was this part of your family's secret before you realize there's others out there?
Yeah. He kind of brought that up as soon as he told us he was a medium. That was this place he
went to and he could communicate with people telepathically and that it was his voice without
having a voice, if that makes sense. It's so remarkable. And he said that other non-speakers were
there. It does sound like it's the hill. The way Ethan describes it is very similar and it is a
lot of it is based on love and appreciation and acceptance. The family has also revealed. Ethan
has expressed having extensive knowledge about his past lives. Here's Ethan's mom. He remembers
all his past lives. Oh, so it says this life to be special because he says this is his last one
and this is his hardest life. This is his first life with autism. This is his first life as a medium
and he needs to make it special and he feels bad when he stole from our family. We didn't
really go on vacation. We didn't go to restaurants. We stayed home. When did he start bringing
it past lives and how was that for you to like my handle? It doesn't bring it up so much now because
there's so much other stuff but it's just it's unbelievable. And he knows our past lives too. Wow.
Does he say if you all were together in each life? He was always with Madeline, myself, and Jack,
the twin. But they were never twins but they were always together and he was never autistic like
this is all. He sounds crazy to say but yeah it is interesting because it comes up a lot from a lot of
non-speakers. Some of it's scary but he knows how people passed. He knows how he passed in his last
life. He knows how his brother passed and some of the ways that we have passed it shows the things
that we're anxious about now. Give me an example that's fascinating. Here's Madeline again.
Our younger brother, Jack, is going to be afraid of the water and boats like forever. We would go on a
boat as his family and Jack would be like nope I'm staying home guys like you have fun. We
could not get into going a boat and Ethan shared that he passed from a boat accident in his last
life that he was like a sailor and it happened in a harbour and he was he was working on a big ship
and that he like tragically died. Another weird thing is he says sometimes in his dreams he goes
and he visits his last family before us like his soul does which is so fascinating.
In the family's initial email to our team they mentioned that Ethan had a near death experience
that affected him in a profound way. I asked if they'd share that story. Here's Ethan's older sister
Ashley starting it off. So the story started it kind of started with me and then ended more with
my mom and Madeline but the first time I went to typing school with Ethan I was asking him what
flavor cake he wanted me to make for my grandma's birthday and she wrote peanut butter. So for some
context Ethan's twin Jack has a very severe peanut allergy and we grew up in a completely
peanut free household so Ethan has never consumed a peanut in his life. So I was like Ethan like
I feel you you should try peanuts and I even confirmed with my mom that he had gotten
allergy testing with Jack when they were babies and he was an allergic then I'll pass them
like on to Madeline because the rest of the story says. So I was with my mom and Ethan was getting
a haircut and I think it's pretty universal. People with autism don't enjoy getting haircuts
and this was like a particularly rough one. My mom was like Madeline go walk over to Harris
Teter and get him a treat and I was like I have the perfect treat. Let me give him some peanut butter
M&Ms because he's been wanting to try them which was my mistake so I got the peanut butter M&Ms
and I walked back over to the Harris salon and I gave Ethan one and he loved it so he ate the whole
bag very fast. We thought everything was fine we left and my mom Ethan and I walked to the car
and Ethan kind of starts coughing but we don't really feel that alerted and then once we get into
the car we notice something seriously wrong like his face is bright red he has shortness of breath
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so we roll up to the ER Ethan runs right in he ends up just like collapsing on the floor
because at that point he was going in and out because he couldn't breathe he got an happy pen
and luckily like by the grace of something everything was fine but he was so close to death it was
such a close call thank god that he made it out and that he recovered and we got to go home that
night and once he really started typing at home he said when he was going through anaphylactic shock
I was in a waiting space it was beautiful I couldn't see beyond the gates but I could see mom and
Maddie I could hear you all my nanny jean gave me the push to get up I believe jean is my guardian angel
I know she was chosen for me she said get up so I did classic me running into the hospital
I'm known to take off running at odd times up there in heaven the angels told me to embrace the
letters they knew I could type we talked about my ability to communicate with the dead I saw heaven
and I came back twice I never take a day for granted I always thank god for each day I feel more
vulnerable after this experience things are gonna get better and they did and the nanny he was saying
was saying get up she's a living nanny or was she on the side she's past she's my great grandmother
okay because she he was collapsed in the car he was laying on my lap and we rolled up an
Ethan literally bolted inside and then laid down on the ground in the ER so he was saying that
your grandmother who's passed away was saying to him in the car get up like yeah and that will
him get up and run into the hospital yeah wow what a story is he talked about the future like
what are some of the things he wants to do or does he have any dreams or hopes here's Ashley yeah
we're currently working on writing a book so that's something he wants to do and mostly he I think
just wants to educate people on his experience being a non-speaker being autistic um to
love with the I think he just wants to normalize it um and help people understand
what his life is like and what others lives are like thanks to all of our listeners who sent
in questions to non-speakers via our backstage pass we sent some of those listener questions
and advanced to Ethan and I just want to remind listeners that we will be collecting all the
questions you submit over our backstage pass and continually asking those to all the non-speakers
that will be interviewing over the next few months now I know he wrote all these amazing answers
to some of the questions who wants to read those or do you want to get turn reading the questions
and answers he said he wants me and Ashley to read his answer okay um the first question is what
are the top three things you want humanity to understand and do in these times based on your
elevated perspective Ethan's response was be open-minded put humanity first doing good gets you
further than money and greed life is short compared to heaven hoping humans will act better knowing
this I love how love intertwines every thought I love my abilities so I can be a part of my family's
life regardless of my physical presence my life is important it gives me purpose to give spiritual
guidance to my family and friends God helps if you let him love is religion enough God can be
polarizing compassion and real love is the way so the second one is I've been working with autistic
non-speakers since September of last year doing RPM sessions I would love to know how to best
help my students some days I feel defeated and discouraged and think I'm not doing a good job
how can I improve or enhance my perception of what the students need sometimes I feel like they
are trying to connect with me but I can't receive the message so Ethan's answer is trust in your
instincts the answers are there listen to your mind big problem knowing the answers and ignoring
the instincts you will have no problem connecting once you trust that not all of your thoughts are
yours I love my rolling knowledge from spirits I love assisting in this by directly reading
that's a great answer okay number three is when you are on the hill have you been in the presence
of and are communicated directly with non-human intelligences and are you able to ask them questions
and receive clear responses if so why are they not openly disclosing their presence on earth
Ethan's response is I truly believe there is intelligence that goes beyond the human race
there are things you wouldn't believe they're word of mouth the hill is not a granted wonderland
that all of us go to it's what we make of it I can choose if I believe and who I can communicate to
I go to the hill I'm on it now I see dead people they gave me new perspectives on both life
and mortality life is fragile the fact that I will be dead longer than alive it makes me get up
every morning I want to talk about my life and prior lives I want to explain that the present
life is distinct from prior lives and feature lives and that we are temporary beings that have
the ability to be living multiple lives we have one soul that has many lives this is my only life
that I have been a medium and have autism beautiful so this is question for it's I've observed that
some non-speakers appear to demonstrate a form of knowing that it goes beyond typical intuition
in certain cases they may be able to participate future events or outcomes of the notable consistency
in a way that resembles predictive cognition or somewhat like perception from your perspective
how should this phenomenon be understood so Ethan says by seeing dead people I can predict some
future events every human on planet earth has a spirit guide even if they don't believe it
they are the compass that leads them to their placement in their unpredictable timeline they know
what will happen to them if they make a wrong turn and sometimes they are helpless to stop them
I know if something is going to happen to others their guides are not shy in fact they are all
the same blunt very direct and not always the most articulate but at the end of the day the
future is what we make of it I want people to know that they are not alone and making their futures
or reality the beautiful answer as he ever talk about the spirit guides of all of you in the family
like has he named them or that he can see them and what does he say about them yes he does so um
what he's shared is that me and Ethan are more creative brain so my name is Jean who was a
second-round earth she kind of helps me and Ethan and my nanny Bert guides Ashley and her daily life
so it's really cool to have that insight and it's cool to just you know in our average brains
we like hey thanks for helping me out or thanks for guiding me yeah and it really does at least
for me it really changes like the idea of like ancestors and their role in our lives you know
yeah totally it's really nice to to know that and to get that like validation
a hundred percent so does Ethan want to say anything like while he's he does he want to
communicate anything or have any messages he wants to share yeah I would love to share his last
response which is a little longer um we typed this out last night has a lot of good insight and then
yes we can totally go ask him if there's anything else he wants to call a lot he's like pacing
upstairs I can tell he's excited yeah so the last question is hello this question is for any of
you non-speakers I'm so happy that you guys have found your voice I've always been interested in
psychic abilities and would like to know how one can access such abilities what is the process
so Ethan says psychic abilities come when we are ready for them most people have intuition and dreams
start there I don't believe dreams are just our brains firing what is silly dumbed on way
of accepting science over spirit both exist together dreams are where to start meditating
regularly helps tremendously open your abilities start accepting magic before demanding spiritual
our minds are radio stations that are tuned to what we choose normal people have too many
distractions to fully connect meditation calms our bodies so we can hear what flows through us
abilities are grown by building trust with the universe a city of new faces exists beyond our
minds barriers barriers of reason will creep in and say it's fake I assure you it's real my
encounter with spirit was scary my uncle Arnold died and I saw him in my room I hit under covers
he told me many stories about fishing with my dad he got me through many frustrating moments in
childhood I grew up talking to him in heaven while I couldn't talk to my family on earth my friends
dad died tragically when I was eight he was very spiritually inclined on earth and taught me to embrace
my spiritual gifts my family is always around guiding my siblings nice great grandmothers take care
of me now I'm open to everyone past and alive I hear Maddie like an angel on earth she's open
magic is a part of our world God doesn't care if you believe or not he's there your past
loved ones are two my gift on earth is powerful it is hard to live in my body my mind is where I stay
my life is metaphysical communication not a choice for me my purpose my goal is to help others with
my gift I hope I can bring peace to those who need it my spirits do that for me my gift is not
unique others have access to this I love you listeners thanks for supporting my community I love
you I love this opportunity to be heard I love that so much great answer yeah it's beautiful and it's
I love how it kind of encompassed a lot of what we talked about already at this point the
stutter family carried the laptop upstairs to Ethan who mentioned earlier he wanted to spell for
this part of the interview hi Ethan I just want to see if you want to say anything else I loved
everything you've written it's so beautiful Ethan was laser focused spelling on his bed about the
opportunity to speak to all of you listeners for this interview the might have been hard to
understand but he said I'm happy beyond happy just feeling grateful know this part of my life great
love this opportunity I'm so glad you could participate and boy Ethan you have some insights that
are just profound and I think you're going to help a lot of people before we end it Ethan spelled
out one final message and here's Madeline reading it he said I'm happy beyond happy just feeling
grateful know this part of my life is great love this opportunity my life not by accident my life
meant to share my gifts love my community on the hill mom best mom ever I'm lucky makes me happy to
hear my family recall my stories people need help this life is not just making money how precious
our souls are to be trusted on earth no god is proud of you Kai please keep going no big success
is still pending just the start please keep fighting for my community of course thank you Ethan those
are all such beautiful messages and it means so much to hear so thank you for sharing that really
this Friday an exclusive episode will be released on our subscriber only backstage pass here's a clip
from that episode she's just looking at me the whole time with her mouth hanging open and she said
everything you said is accurate and exact those are all places that we visited those are all things
that we've said to each other and the experiences that we've had she said the only thing is he is not
dead he's a couple doors down you know at home he has dementia and I did not know what to do if
you'd like to hear more subscribe to become an exclusive member at the link in the episodes
description that's it for this episode of the talk tracks but new episodes will be released
every Wednesday so stay tuned as we work to unravel all the threads even the veiled ones that
knit together our reality and please remember to stay kind stay curious and that being a true
skeptic requires an open mind thank you to my amazing collaborators producers Catherine Ellis
and Selena Kennedy technical directing audio mix and finishing by Jeremy Cole opening and closing
music by Elizabeth PW an original logo and cover art by Ben Condor design I'm Kai Dickens your
executive producer writer and host
The Telepathy Tapes



