Sabina Kelley: Why Women Feel Rushed to Have Kids Too Late | DSH #1760

I have a lot of friends that are trying to have babies like way later.

Really? In their 40s?

Yes. That's scary.

Maybe it's because I'm in the entertainment industry.

So a lot of women like, they're just like career, career, career.

And they don't want to have kids because they think that holds you back or whatever they think.

Yeah.

And I think they start to get to the age where they're not going to be able to

and they get scared.

And they're like, oh my god, I have to do it now.

And they'll just grab whoever.

I was just going to ask you that because I hear this from woman in the 30s

that they feel like they're in a rush.

They don't have a kid by then.

I see a lot of women like that.

And so that, and it's also another thing too.

I get people all the time that are like, you know,

because I post pictures of my husband and my kids and stuff.

And it actually hides, not hides, but it like keeps people from bugging the craft out of me

and sending me all kinds of stuff.

Oh, yeah, we're gods, yeah.

The DMs of all kinds of stuff.

And it's actually, I have models messaging me all the time going,

well, why do you post pictures of your husband and your kids?

And I'm like, I wouldn't, I am proud of them.

You know what I mean? It's my family.

But a lot of women think they need to hide that if they have a boyfriend or a husband

or a kid's and stuff like that.

I just do care, though.

Okay, guys, we got Sabina here, Vegas local, same initials.

Yes, we do. We have the same initials, it's awesome.

Yeah, but you got more tattoos than me.

I do.

You probably lost track at this point, right?

I have no idea how many tattoos I have.

Wow, you're still getting more, are you done?

Um, you know what, right now we're actually

re-going over all my old tattoos and bringing them back to life.

Because some of them are like, like 20 years old and see all the colors fallen out

of this one right here.

So we're like re-putting color back in to bring them,

popping them and bringing them back to life.

Wow.

Yeah, I noticed sometimes they lose their appeal, right?

They do, they start to fade away over the years, the sun.

So how often I guess do you have to do that every 20 years?

Um, honestly, most people don't do it.

I just started doing it because of modeling

and because I'm married to a tattoo artist.

Yeah, it makes sense.

Hey, let's freshen these up, make them look a little better.

Yeah, in the bedroom, just while you're watching Netflix.

We're watching Wednesday right now, the new season.

Yes, I've started watching it too.

It's good, right?

Yeah, well shout out to Wednesday, man.

What's that actress called?

Uh, for Jen or Tega?

Yes.

Yeah, she's a beast.

Everything she's in, crushes it.

Um, do you still do the television shows too?

Or are you taking break?

Um, I'm not right now.

I want to.

I absolutely love doing besting and doing any TV and movie stuff.

I want to do more of it for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, um, it challenged me because I do modeling most of the time.

And, um, so doing TV was different for me and challenged me.

And so I like challenge.

Yeah, it seems like everyone in Vegas on a little TV break.

The Pond Stars guys, um, there was another car show, Danny Coker.

He had his show.

They're on break right now.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's, I don't know what's going on,

but people are kind of doing their own thing right now.

Doing podcasts, actually.

Yeah, I actually thought that was like what's going on now.

Everyone's turned into podcasts and doing their own podcasts.

Yeah, that's where the money's out.

That's where the attention's out these days, right?

TV, I feel like has lost some appeal.

Right.

I feel like with podcasts, you can get a little more in depth with people and more.

It's more real.

And I think people these days like to see more real than just like, you know,

scripted TV and even like reality TV, it's, it's not really real.

I mean, it's real, but it's like in the back of your head.

Yeah, they still, you know, they still persuade things certain ways.

Yeah, I want the drama.

Yeah, that was the modeling lately.

It's going really good.

I'm actually starting to shoot my 2026 calendar.

Wow.

I usually have it done by now.

So I'm a little behind on it, but.

Oh, so you're usually done by now?

Yes.

It's not even October yet.

Yep.

So you have to shoot those way in advance.

We shoot them in advance.

And then yeah, and get it all edited and print it out.

And I usually have it by the end of September.

But I think this year it's going to be end of October.

Nice.

Now that's a tough industry, right?

Modeling.

Definitely.

But I feel like I've kind of created my own little niche,

having my tattoos and being a pen-up model.

Right.

It is a lot more common nowadays for that.

But when I started, it wasn't.

And it's helped me back for a lot of things more

in the fashion world and stuff like that, having tattoos.

Right.

Again, nowadays, everything's a lot more acceptable.

Yeah, overall, would you say it's a net positive?

Would I say what?

Having this many tattoos has

been a net positive overall.

In terms of business, I guess.

Yeah, well, for me, because I think the way I started,

and I made my name around my tattoos

and being a pen-up model, which was not

a known thing at the time, because pen-up models back

in the 40s and 50s never had tattoos.

So when I started being a pen-up model and getting tattooed,

that wasn't a thing.

So I kind of created that little niche.

And so yeah, it's been good for me.

But I think if I would have started now

and started getting tattoos trying to be a pen-up model,

it'd be a whole nother story.

Really.

So you think, because you were kind of early

and you paid the lane, it helped?

Yes, 100%.

I feel like I kind of trailblazed my way through it.

Because there's not anybody I could look up to and be like,

I want to follow that person, be just like that person.

And I was like, I really have anybody I could point to

and be like, that's who I want to be.

I kind of just did my own thing.

And there's ups and downs on it, but it's good.

That makes sense.

Is it still like that now?

With the modeling industry, is it pretty against tattoos

for the most part?

A lot of it's still against tattoos,

but it is a little more acceptable.

It's a lot more acceptable for guys than it is for girls.

The fashion world, it's still a little touchy there,

but it is definitely a lot more acceptable now.

Yeah, yeah, it's so weird.

I wonder when that stigma started with tattoos

and how people don't trust people with tattoos.

You know what I mean?

Right.

It's like a negative connotation.

I think it's probably because it's like back in the days

with the bikers and the sailors and all that kind of thing.

I don't know, it's always kind of had the stigma around it

until the tattoo TV shows and stuff.

And then I feel like it became a lot more acceptable.

And it's like the soccer moms were running

and getting their tattoos now.

And I feel like, most people nowadays have at least one tattoo.

I know you don't have any.

That's awesome.

That's rare.

I feel like if we looked at stats,

I would say what percentage, if you had estimate,

we could look it up.

We were about like, I think at least 50%.

50% in the US, I would say.

Let me look it up.

What percentage?

I'm sorry, but I want to know.

Have a tattoo in America.

Okay, so your guess is 50%.

Yeah.

So according to this 2023 study,

they're saying 32% have at least one tattoo.

Uh-huh.

And that was in 23.

So you're pretty close.

Could be higher now.

I feel like it would be.

I don't know, just from seeing like the type of people

that are getting tattooed now, it's not like how it was.

Like tattoo shops used to be scary to go into.

I used to be scared.

Just walk by them, yeah.

They didn't even allow women in the tattoo shop

when I was like in high school.

Wow.

And they were like, women were not allowed in there.

And they'd laugh at you and be like,

it out, you know?

That's nuts.

Yeah, no, no, it's totally different.

How old were you when you got the first one?

I was actually 20.

I waited.

So kind of late.

Yeah, because I was a show girl in Jubilee

and we were not allowed to have tattoos.

And so all my friends were heavily tattooed.

And I would go to the dive bars after work.

And all my friends were full sleeves and back tattoos.

And it's something I always wanted.

But being a show girl, I wasn't allowed to have any tattoos.

So I started very late.

Yeah, I feel like now people are getting them like 16, 17.

Yeah, but if you get it that early,

the stuff that you get tattooed on you usually

aren't going to let me get older.

Like my kids, it's like they're getting all tattooed.

And I'm like, slow it down, slow it down.

What age are they getting tattooed?

Well, my daughter actually tattooed her hand by herself

like before when she was like 16.

And we're like, what are you doing, you know?

Self tattoo.

Yeah, but now they're all getting proper tattoos

by my husband and big name artists.

So they're getting, at least they're getting good work now.

I got to see a family photo of who has the most tattoos.

I'll have to show you.

Does your husband have more than you?

Oh, yeah, he has his whole head tattooed.

His whole head, his back chest, legs, everything.

Some of the face tattooed scare me.

Yeah, he doesn't have any face tattoos.

My son actually has a face tattoo.

Where is it?

Just like he has the one, the little little piece

he has broken heart.

Got it.

Yeah, some of the face ones, I don't know why,

maybe from movie programming in my head, just scare me.

Right.

Like how gangs have them, I don't know.

Yeah, I could see that for sure.

I don't feel like tattoos are as tough nowadays

as they used to be.

Like in terms of just like appearance,

or yeah, it's changed, right?

It's changed a lot.

100%.

Yeah, and Asian culture was like a big no.

Now I see Asians getting them like no problem.

Yeah, well, they still like the whole Japanese culture

when they do their Japanese suits.

Like they have it.

So when they wear their suits, you can't see

that they have the tattoos underneath.

And so like even if like their shirt goes up a little bit,

they come up to here.

So like you can't see.

So they hide it.

It's all hidden.

And that's, it's, when I went to Japan,

they were like shocked.

Oh really?

Are you sure open?

Like blonde hair, blue eyes, tall,

girl with tattoos.

It was like, that's a no-no.

They were avoiding you over there.

Yeah, it's interesting to see how certain cultures treat it.

Right.

Yeah, I wonder how China would be.

I'm half Chinese.

I want to go to China.

You haven't been?

I've never been.

And I, I never, like I always had

heard bad things about it.

And my husband has friends that live over there.

And they're like living on the beach.

And it's a gorgeous, like, a beach in China.

What?

They're showing me pictures and it's gorgeous.

Wow.

And I was like, I want to go there.

Yeah, there's a lot of negative media about it

being in America, you know?

Certain countries will be portrayed in a certain way.

I've noticed that.

I lived in Australia for a year and a half.

And sometimes we would see things on the news.

And then I'd call home and be like, oh my god,

I can't believe this happened.

And they're like, that didn't happen.

It's like the country was telling us what they wanted us

to know in here.

Wow.

Then what was actually happening over in the US.

And then vice versa, like when we moved back to the US,

like, especially during COVID, the news

that Australians were getting over COVID

were like completely different than what

was actually going on in the US.

And like some of our friends are like, you're still alive.

You're a COVID and you didn't die, you know?

That's crazy.

Before it got big over there.

That's why I don't watch the news anymore.

I grew up watching it daily.

Yeah.

And I felt like it was always negative also.

Always.

Yeah, my dad still watches it.

Watching it turn that off.

The boomer generation, they go up with it.

They don't know any better.

No, they can't even use social media.

No.

So I can't fault them for that.

But at least they should know that it's not the truth.

Not the truth, you know what I mean?

Do you have any rules for tattoos?

Like no names, no certain things?

I don't really have like specifically for me

or just for example, for people.

For me, I'm really weird about having my tattoos

be symmetrical where it's like, if I have this arm

done, I have to have this arm done.

Like with my neck done, it's has to be this one done.

OK, so I look at OCD thing maybe.

I think it just needs to look a proportionate,

like for especially for modeling and stuff.

So I'm just very weird about how I get my tattoos done.

So if I do one, on one side, I have to do one

on the other side.

Interesting.

So when you're getting a tattoo, it's a long day.

Yes.

You got to get both sides done.

Well, I mean, I won't do them both like in the same day,

but it'll be pretty close together.

Wow.

Yeah, for me, I don't think I'd

get names.

Names?

Yeah.

I have had a name that I took off.

But I, yes, yes.

That's why I was like, I lasered it myself.

And then, but then I did get my husband's name tattooed on me.

So I can't say that I wouldn't get names because that

and I have my kids names on me.

So what are the most commonly requested removals?

Is it names?

I would probably say names, yeah.

Names are just like dumb tattoos and they're drunk

and let your friend tattoo you sort of thing.

There's a lot of dumb stuff like that.

You got any drunk tattoos?

Not really.

I actually have pretty good tattoos.

Nice.

Yeah.

I don't hear too many people say that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like everyone has that one regretful.

But see, that's why I started a little bit later, too.

So I would have, actually though, if I would have gotten

what I wanted when I was probably like 17,

I would absolutely regret it.

And I know I was like begging a lot of my friends

to tattoo me at that time and they thank God never did.

Wow.

I'd be regretting it now.

Respect.

Yeah, because you also do tattoo removal, right?

I did.

I used to do.

I don't do it anymore.

OK.

I did that for a while, so.

There wasn't enough of those to run the business?

No, honestly, I was doing it.

And I did it for about eight years.

And I loved it.

I was really good at it.

I was one of the first people in Vegas to do it

that wasn't a doctor.

So when I did tattoo removal and went

to go get the business license, they

put me under massage therapy because they didn't even

have anything like tattoo, they didn't even

know what to do a tattoo removal.

Well, it's definitely not like massage therapy,

but went with it.

And I moved to Australia.

So I sold my laser and everything set a doctor over me

before I moved to Australia.

And then when I moved back from Australia,

I didn't jump back into it.

Got it.

The price of lasers just went through the roof.

It's like 400,000 for like one of the good lasers.

I was like, I wouldn't want to do it unless I

was doing top of the line.

Two, four, K.

You would have made that back for years.

Exactly.

So that's why I have not jumped back into it.

And then there's also, they're talking about,

I mean, they've been saying it for years

where they're trying to make it where you have

to be a nurse or a doctor to do tattoo removal.

And I'm not a nurse or a doctor.

I've trained under.

I went to school for it.

And I've trained under nurses and doctors.

But I wouldn't want to get in that deep with something.

And then all of a sudden, the rules change.

And I wouldn't do it.

So I'm like, that's a good point.

Because I would be another four years of schooling, right?

To become a nurse and all that debt.

Yep.

I mean, college and sheep these days.

And then the debt of the laser too.

Right.

Four and a K for laser.

Why did they go up so much that they just stop making them?

No, I think it's just that the technology

just keeps getting better and better.

And they, you know, they keep going higher and higher.

And so, yeah, I haven't looked into it for a while, though.

But I'm good at it.

Yeah.

I know that.

I'm going to Australia for my honeymoon.

Are you?

When's your honeymoon?

Oh, November.

Oh, it's awesome.

I'm going to Australia in December.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I didn't want to go in the summer.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, OK.

I went once when I was younger in the summer.

My face was peeling so bad.

It was way too hot.

But it starts to get into summer in November.

Oh, it does?

Yeah, because it's their seasons are opposite ours.

Oh.

So it's starting to get, yeah, you're going to be, it's going

to be hot because it's going to be Christmas in summer there.

I make the same mistake.

You did.

Oh, my God.

Vroom.

OK, this time it's my fault.

Last time I went with my mom, I blame her.

But I did not know that.

Wow.

So it's summer there in a couple of months.

Yes.

Oh, my.

Yeah.

So Christmas would be summer, for sure.

Yeah, we're going.

They have Christmas on the beach.

Wow.

We're going to Brisbane.

That's awesome.

Yeah, we're going to the zoo.

Steve Irwin's old zoo.

It's so cool.

You been?

It's so cool.

Yeah, we're pumped.

We're pumped.

I lived on the Gold Coast, and that's where my husband's from.

Oh, nice.

And so that's where we're headed.

It's about an hour from Brisbane.

OK.

Do you see any wild snakes while you're out there?

No, but I'm terrified of them.

It's like, I am not good with reptiles.

And we had a water dragon that lived in our backyard.

And that was already enough for me.

I was like, oh, God, it like, hang on our window outside

our bedroom window.

And stuff.

And sit by the car and not let you in the car.

And I'm just like, oh, gosh, but I seriously

thought about it every day that I stepped foot out of the house

like if I was going to see a snake.

Just because they talk about it so much.

And there are so many over there.

But I did not see any.

Yeah, every local I know that has been growing up there

has either been bitten or had like a weird encounter.

You know what I mean?

It's like a ride to passage out there.

Oh, God.

Yeah, it's wild.

Yeah, the spiders are pretty crazy, though.

They're big.

You scared of those?

The Huntsman's.

I'm not scared of spiders.

But when they're like this big, that is a little creepy.

That's really creepy.

Yeah, and some of them are venomous, right?

Yeah, a lot of them are.

Even some of the real tiny ones,

like you're not allowed to leave your laundry outside

at night, because there's, I don't remember what the name of it

is, is this little spider that gets in your clothes

and it's venomous.

Cheese.

Yeah, I'll try not to do that while I'm out there.

Don't leave your clothes outside.

I'm going to not be outside as much as possible.

Right now you're not.

I'm going to be at the zoo and go straight back to the hotel.

The zoo's so cool.

You'll love that, it's awesome.

Yeah, I'm pumped.

I'm big on animals.

Yeah.

You got any pets?

I do.

I've got two English staffies.

Nice.

Are those big breeds there?

They're like many pit bulls.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, I got an Aussie shepherd and a golden retriever.

I love it.

Yeah, I want to get a guard dog.

Yes.

Yeah, those seem useful these days.

Oh, yeah.

For sure.

You get weird stalkers ever, like weird people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I feel like even me, not like, I feel like girls get it worse,

but yeah, even myself, I've weird people sometimes.

So it's just part of the social media game, right?

I think they kind of feel like they know you

when they hear you talking, and especially, like,

with you doing a podcast and stuff,

they start to feel like they totally know you.

And then, like, with me, it's like they see pictures

and stuff online all the time, or videos

or what I'm out and about, and they feel like they know you

when they actually know you.

So it's a little creepy.

Hair social relationship, yeah.

Yeah, it's part of the little side effect

of the social media game.

Yeah.

I think overall it's worth it though.

Yeah.

You know, there's a lot of great people I meet.

That's awesome.

What's the main focus for you the rest of the year?

So my main focus is obviously my calendar getting that done.

I'm working on putting together a burlesque show,

girl style show with a casino right now.

I can't say much about it yet, because we're still,

like, working on contracts and stuff,

but working on that, and then we're just building

our tattoo shop bigger and better now.

Like, it smiles and cries tattoo.

Like, my husband and I own that,

and we've just put everything into that.

So I've been building that.

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We are traveling to a couple like Mexico for a tattoo convention

in October and I'm doing some model coaching and stuff too.

So that's pretty much the rest of my year

doing some traveling to New York Nashville, Australia,

New York, Australia, Mexico, and what was the other one?

Nashville.

I've already been there.

We have similar destinations.

Yes, I love Nashville.

That's one of my favorite places.

Nashville is right now for me.

Nashville is top three in the country.

It's easy how big it's getting.

It's always been one of my favorite places.

But last time I was there, the main drag there

is busier than the Vegas strip.

I was like, what is going on?

I was like, I think Nashville is just like blowing up.

Good music scene, good food scene.

I'm sure there's a good tattoo scene.

Yeah.

Good people.

It's fun.

Yeah, it's hard to beat.

Definitely.

Nashville Vegas and I'll say Miami's the weather.

Nashville Vegas to visit.

Yeah, I would throw Miami there I guess.

I haven't been to Miami in so long.

Really?

That's my top three right now.

I'm gonna have to go back there.

You don't like it there?

It felt very 80s to me the last time I was there.

But it's been a while.

It's been a while.

So it's seriously probably been like 12 years.

So I'm like, oh, that is a long time.

I need to make it back.

Yeah.

The humidity and the pricing is pretty crazy.

Right.

But it's good.

I used to go out there to shoot with Bunny Yeager.

Who used to shoot all Betty Pages pictures and stuff.

Oh wow.

So once she passed away, I stopped going out there honestly.

Because I was usually always going out there to shoot with her.

So that was my big draw to Miami.

That makes sense.

It's hard to be Vegas.

Like, I can't think of many places better.

I keep trying to leave Vegas and I keep ending up back here.

Really?

Like I've tried to leave numerous times.

And I always end up back here.

Because it's such a like great place with like the inner,

especially doing entertainment.

Right.

Being in the entertainment industry.

There's always something going on.

And everybody always wants to come to Vegas to visit you.

So you don't have to go anywhere because everybody always comes here to see you.

But like there's always something to do.

And there's always good food and there's always good entertainment.

And so, and it's just convenient.

You know, when I moved, when I moved Australia,

it was like things closed at like seven o'clock.

So I had to plan my day about when I went to the grocery store

and when I did certain things because everything closed earlier.

That's early.

Yes.

And so like Vegas, it's, I mean, definitely things have changed

since, you know, COVID and everything things closed earlier now.

But it's still.

It's still popping on many hours of the day.

It's still popping on many hours of the day.

Yeah.

I'm by Chinatown and stuff's open there to like two to three a.m.

You know, if you want a late night snack,

you could probably go to a show every day of the year.

Oh, yeah.

A different show.

Same with restaurants.

Yep.

I just saw Backstreet Boys.

There's so many good magic shows.

Yeah.

You never run out.

I want to go see the Wizard of Oz.

I want to see that.

I haven't seen that yet.

But I want you.

Yeah.

Have you been to the Spheria?

What?

I haven't.

I know.

I know.

Yeah.

I put it off for a while.

Backstreet Boys last week with my first time.

Right.

But it lived up to the hype.

Did it?

Okay, good.

It feels wild in there.

All right.

Yeah.

Then I have to go to.

I really want to do the Wizard of Oz one.

I'm excited to do that.

Yeah.

Definitely go there.

I got to hear what your favorite show is in Vegas.

That's a hard one.

You could list a few.

It doesn't have to be one.

Well, it kind of depends like what style show.

I've.

It's hard because I've done a lot of guest spots.

I haven't been to headlining in some of the shows I hear.

It's like expert less.

Yeah.

I think this country or like those are like near and dear to my heart

since I danced in them.

One of my favorite magic shows though is gif.

Mm.

Yeah.

Gif, the magic dragon.

Have you seen that?

Not yet.

Oh my God.

You've got to see it.

It's so nice.

It's so mean.

Yeah.

Yeah, I heard of it.

It's awesome.

It's a comedy magic show.

And usually magic shows.

I'm like.

Yeah.

Show's feel like redundant. Yeah, I will say David Blaine though. Have you seen that one? Oh wait wait is was that over at real?

Oh, no, it's not the win. Okay, so no, I haven't seen that one. Yeah, that one was nuts. Okay. I mean, do you know who that is?

I've heard the name, but I don't know honestly like I'm not really big. Okay, so that's why I like even when I saw

Piff I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna go if I'm gonna like this and I saw it and I was like I recommend it to everyone. Yeah, it was okay

David Blaine is not really magic magic. Right. Like there there wasn't many like deck of card tricks. Okay, he was sticking

I don't want to spoil it too much, but like I'll spoil one because it was insane. He stuck a ice pick all the way through his arm

What had that one of the people in the audience pull it out. That's crazy. Yeah, so just cool shit like that

Yeah, you know if you're not into bloody stuff then yeah that one close your eyes

Also when he starts the I don't want to spoil it, but yeah, check it out check it out. Yeah, you go see Piff and I'll go see

We'll trade show ideas. Perfect. We should trade some restaurants too. Are you a big foodie? I love food. I love food

I need to stop loving food. I order postmates at least once a day. It's so bad. My son does. I'm like so bad. I wish I could cook

I just so busy like that. That's how it is with me like I've been doing the meal prep stuff

I used to do that. Meal press because so I try to eat a little bit healthier

But again, we're still like especially all over the place. Yeah, how to shop and everything, but I'm Mayfair is one of my

Mayfair supper club. I haven't tried it yet. What heard of it. Stop it. You got to go. Yeah, I heard of it

Because it has a show too. Oh it does. Yeah, if you go like later in the night. Okay, show and food

It's like Delilah. It is. It's like Delilah, but it's a little different. Oh god

I think Mayfair I like Mayfair a little better than Delilah. God it mayfair. That is very high-end and very nice and retro and

But I think I like Mayfair a little bit. Okay. That's in Bellagio, right? Yes. Okay. I'll definitely add that to the list

Which your favorite? Oh

So many good ones depends on the cuisine. What's your favorite cuisine? I like Mexican Mexican. I like

Mexican the one in are you happier? Oh, yeah, I'm happy. That's my favorite Mexican. That's right

And then Thai Lotus of Siam. Oh, yes

So good. Is that your go-to-tot? There's that one and then um, oh my gosh, what's it called? They just open one on

Sahara next to

Goldensteer. Goldensteer solid. There's a Thai spot in that plaza. Yes, it just opened and it's bomb and they've got four of them in Vegas

I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head right now. Is it Latai? No, but that one's awesome too. Latai, too

I ordered that one on postmates. There's three. I like that

Damn, you gotta remember it off camera. Tell me oh my gosh. I'm definitely I love Thai. Okay, it's so good

Yeah, Thai is solid. What's your favorite casino?

Restaurant lies to eat up overall

That I really like the virgin whoa, I know that's a hot day

So you like the nobu in there you like the I do like the nobu. I like the steakhouse

Also, um, they have a Mexican restaurant in there right now that I haven't tried yet

But that I definitely want to go and try. Yeah, but I think it's because I go I go over there a lot

And I also like doing stuff that's off the strip sometimes, you know, because it's just like the whole process of going down to the strip

In the parking lot. I'm more of an off-strip guy. Yeah, you'll find me at Red Rock. You'll find me at like Green Valley Ranch, Durango

Even found blue

Durango has some of the best restaurants for the food port too. Oh my god. It's so good. Erbsburgers. Everything there. Yeah, everything there is so good

Yeah, Durango might be I think you're actually doing it

It's pretty good. Yeah, I usually say like

Arya or Venetian yeah, because Venetian as um, they all do they all have good stuff

Yeah, they all do it's tough and Venetian's about to add that Kobe Kote

Staykowski. Yeah, which is like insane. I heard yeah, so I'm pumped and they have X-Paw and they have

That Asian spot mot 32. Yep. Oh my god. Oh good. Even misnion is good there. Have you had that?

It's like a not even it's like part of the food court. Okay. Yeah, that's about solid

But yeah, I could talk food for days people are like what's wrong with it? You're like I'm hungry

And I rank Vegas because I always ask this your favorite city to eat in my favorite city to eat in

Oh, Vegas is definitely I rank Vegas up there with New York

L.A. Definitely. Yeah, Vegas is up there because we import all the best food. I feel like we do

I mean everywhere there's everything here, you know what I mean?

And it's and it's pretty convenient to get to too for the most part

Yeah, yeah, cuz even sushi you think we're in the desert the sushi's not good but people fly inside

They fly in every day. Yeah, that's what they said. Yeah. Yeah, do you do omakase over?

I have not had that really

Where's that one? There's a bunch. It's not a restaurant. It's a style. Oh, okay. Oh, like they'll give you

It's like private chefs and they'll give you I have heard of that. Yes. No, I haven't done it though. Yeah, that's a fine

Oh, yeah, for sure. How's the parenting life three kids you son? Yes, it's it's rough. Yeah, I like honesty

I'm brutally honest. I like it

Yes, I have three kids and

It I always thought like I can't wait till you know my kids turn 18

So I can they can stay home and watch the house and I can go travel and I can have them watch the dogs and stuff

Oh, absolutely not like it's it's way harder like when they turn when they get to be an adult then you get adult problems

We still have one that's 16 so she's you know in that teenage years, but um the other two

It's the adult problems really what are adult problems?

Medical bills or well my daughter had a baby

So you're a grandmother. I am a grandma. Wow. Yeah, you don't look like one. Thank you

Honestly, I'm so stoked on it though. He's the radish little boy like he's so rad

But yeah, just like

Just decisions that you know you make as a young adult that you um

Yeah, I just hardying and it is a stressful age range like that college era. Yeah, it's becoming like an adult

Well, especially in Vegas because everything's so accessible here

Yeah, and you can get yourself in a lot of trouble out here. You could get lost in those ages

I easily could have went to the other way and I was for a little bit. Yeah in college

Well, I have one kid that's going one way and one going the other way

So like how did you guys grow up in the same house and you guys are complete opposites where it's just party animal and

lone wolf that always fascinated me with

Like twins or siblings how they could be so different. Yeah, but they grow up in the same house. It's crazy

I mean my brother and I are like that though. We're total opposites too

And I just don't understand how it's even possible because it's like you grew up with the same

parents and same rules very similar ages and I'm like how is that

I mean, I guess it's just your friends and stuff that you meet along the way too

Yeah, the experiences you have outside of your home that help you you know

That would be the only difference I'd imagine it's the friend group and the decisions you made outside of the house right

Yeah, so I could have been that huh were you strict with their friends growing up who they could hang out with

Yeah, I think so I think my parents were very strict on me

So I didn't want to be like overly strict your parents were like helicopter parents. Oh, yeah

I mean, I couldn't do anything and so and I remember always telling myself like oh, I want to be a parent that

It's still like holds their ground, but I want my kids to be able to tell me anything so like in case like I don't want them lying to me

I think they're gonna go to a party and drink I would rather know that they're at this party and gonna drink then

Not knowing something happened and I don't know where they're at. Yeah, I'm the same way, but it's like

But then again, like I think kids just naturally when you are the parent figure that they

They think you're gonna say no or they're they just get weird unless you're like super close to them

So it's like it's that weird balance of being their friend and being a parent and

Some parents go too far one way where they'll like be their best friend and you know give them during alcohol and do this

And do that and try to be their friend instead of being a parent and some parents are so strict on being a parent

They don't have that connection with their kid as a friend

So it's that weird little balance in the middle um to do that and then even when like my kids became an adult

They're still scared to be like honest about things, but I'm like

You whatever decisions you make now those are your decisions and you're gonna pay the consequences for them

I'm not paying the consequences for them

So it's kind of on them

And so when they finally realize that and where it's like I'm always gonna be on your side and I'll always help you

I want you to make the right decisions, but you know, I'm still gonna help you on your mom

Right. Yeah, you got to take accountability right at a certain point. Yes, so at 18 where you a little more strict with that

Well, I feel like I'm I feel like I'm pretty strict with all of my kids

But I do try to I'd feel like I'm like a little more lenient than my parents ever where I want them to

I'm not like you can't dye your hair a certain color and like stupid stuff like that

Like where my parents are like you can't change your hair color you can't do this you can't do that like

I let my kids be who they want to be and anything they say they want to do

I'm like, yeah, you can do that like if you that's what you want to be and you dream to be that

100% go for it, you know, yeah

You're still right though because growing up I had friends on both spectrums like I had the guy that their dad

Let them have parties at the house bought them alcohol and he's miserable and then I had strict parents with academics

And the kids were just miserable. They were studying all day. They had no free time

So somewhere in the middle of the spot. Yeah, I feel like it is

But then you never know it's right around because like I said one of my kids is way this way and the other one's way

This or and the other one's right in the middle right now. She hasn't really gone either way, but she's still 16

So yeah, I bet it does make you like have what if moments right yes

What if I did that differently and you're just replaying I feel like that always happens

But like you don't get a manual when you get a kid, you know, I mean, it's like I had my my oldest daughter really young and so

She was I was she was growing up with me, you know what I mean, and it's like now

You know, I feel like I don't know. I had my kids young is one of those things where I was like I always wanted

I didn't want to be an old mom right and so I was I wanted to have my kids young

But then I feel like I missed kind of my childhood not childhood, but like young adults

Because I was had to be responsible

But then I think about it in another way and I'm like

Well, I probably wouldn't have gotten as far as I've gotten

Because the time that I did have I hustled hard to like

Do what I wanted to do and progress and like I never I was never

Off-party and screwing around what all my friends were out doing now like I

I was like being a mom and then the second I had a free chance. I was work work work work work work

And so I'm a workaholic. Yeah, I'm a workaholic too. I think there's pros and cons to having kids young

Yes, I chose to wait till about 30 myself good. I think that's actually a perfect age

Yeah, just so I could get my finances right because audit I see some of my friends now having kids and it's tough

Dude like it's like they can't even afford formula some of them and it's just like really stressful

You know what I mean? I didn't want to deal with that. I wanted to like buy a house make sure everyone's chilling

You know, so I was more calculated right yeah, I was more calculated with it

But I think having them youngs also though. There's a lot of benefits too

Yeah, I think cuz like having them older like I couldn't even imagine like having a brand new baby now

I mean, I have my grandbaby so I see how difficult it is

But it's like I don't have the patience anymore

Yeah, I feel like as a kid like you're you're a little more easy going

I guess I've now I'm just like I'll have the patience for it

I feel a but then again now I'm a lot more stable than I was when I had my kids young and

It's like I could give them more now, you know, so it's I guess they're you can't really win on any

Yeah, there's no perfect on you know on both sides. Yeah, everyone's situation is different. There's no perfect age like

I don't know I kind of feel like though like in your like early 30s is

Ideal that's where I feel like I I personally agree because your brain develops until 26

So you're fully formed by then

Then you hopefully you're out of debt by then from college or whatever. So your finances are good

You got life experience by then you probably dated multiple people. Yeah, you know, you know, what you want

So I think around yeah traveled so I think around 30s pretty solid. Yeah, also woman are on a clock

So you can't be too much later than that too. Yeah, you know, because they say to stop around 35

I mean, I mean girls are having babies like way later now

I mean, I think there's a lot more complications, but I think they also can monitor things a lot better now too. So yeah

I don't know. I think I have a lot of friends that are trying to have babies like way later and really in their 40s

Yes, that's scary. That's scary. Yeah, it's super scary. I mean, I I guess I think a lot of I mean

Maybe it's because I'm in the entertainment industry. So a lot of women like

There's like career career career and they don't want to have kids because they think that holds you back or whatever they think

And um, I think they start to get to the age where they're not going to be able to and they get scared and they're like

Oh my god, I have to do it now and they'll just grab whoever. I was just gonna ask you that because I hear this from woman in the 30s

Yeah, that they they feel like they're in a rush. They don't have a kid by then. I see a lot of women like that and so um

That and it's also another thing too like I get people all the time that are like, you know

Because I post pictures of my husband and my kids and stuff and it actually

hides and not hides but it like keeps like

People from bugging the crap out of me and sending me all kinds, you know

Oh, yeah, we're gods. Yeah, DMs of all kinds of stuff and it's actually

I have models message me all the time going well, why do you post pictures of your husband and your kids?

And I'm like, why wouldn't I am proud of them? You know, I mean, it's my family

But a lot of women think they need to hide

That if they have a boyfriend or a husband or kids and stuff like that. I just do hear that

But it's crazy because it's like

It's not they're like well, don't you lose a lot of work because of that?

And I'm like well, if somebody is trying to hire me

Be you know for who I am and what I do and they're not gonna hire me because I have a husband and kids

Then they're obviously not hiring me because of what I you know

They're not hiring me because of that what they want and what I can do, you know

It's a valid point. I hear that entertainment industry, you know

So that's that's super interesting. Yeah, the kids stuff. I've heard like different opinions on that. Yeah

Should you provide your kids like more of a private life or do you want to post them?

It that's a very hard one is I feel like that's a very personal thing with people too

Yeah, especially nowadays with how crazy everything's getting with like AI and like things like that

I always posted because again, it it made I am proud of my family and it made my

It made stalkers and weird people actually kind of stay away from me a little bit

I noticed that so but I think it goes it goes both ways

Yeah, because it makes them a target I guess if weird people want to message them

Yeah, and that that's actually happened before where my kids were

Visiting my parents in California and they were on the beach and like

Some weird stalker person came up to them. They're like, hey Savannah. Oh my gosh, you know

You know, blah blah blah and talking to them like they knew my kids and my kids are like what

But they're and then they're like asking about me so then they you know and I wasn't there so that things like that get really weird

Um, but my kids are at the you know, they know

They know that you know, the people you don't talk to yeah, don't talk to strangers. Yeah, you've trained them

What age did you get them phones up?

Was it early too early? It was early. Yeah, um can't remember

I want to say no is before that. I know it's horrible

It was more because they took the bus sometimes for school

Okay, and so I wanted them to have a phone in case like there's ever anything wrong. Yeah, yeah

um

Yeah, so I mean that makes sense to me. It's probably elementary school

Yeah, I'm still battling with that. I don't even have kids yet

But I hear like both sides of it. It's bad nowadays. I feel like um

Kids are on it way too much way too much and it's a hard thing to control

I mean, especially my teenager

She's honest so much and it's like it's it's almost like a whole another world

She like doesn't even live in reality. You know what I mean? Because it's like everything is on that phone and

I'll take her phone away like because I'll be like you got to go to bed, you know

And she has our alarm on it for school and she will I'll keep catching her on her phone

So I'll take her phone and by I bought her in the alarm clock

I was like you're gonna old school alarm clock and um she ended up breaking it or something

Damn, yeah, I'm not doing this

But she has everything written down on her phone like clockwork like what she's gonna do in the morning like

Brush my teeth brush my hand like you gotta write that down

You know, but it was like she follows her own little schedule and like checks the phone to like keep on track

When she goes to school, but if you take that away from her, it's almost like she's lost and I'm like

That's crazy, you know, it's like an extension of her, but it's because that's all she you know

She's had that for so long and I feel like so many kids are like that

They're they're helpless without that phone on my hand. I'm on money dollars. They almost just be honest

But you mean you do it for working and that's why I have to explain to my kids too because they're like

Oh, you're on your phone all the time and I'm like I'm on my phone for work

Right that makes me money. It's not that I'm just sitting there scrolling on everybody else's stuff. Yeah

I'm I don't even have time to barely go through all my own stuff let alone somebody else's

So trying to explain that to them why it's okay for

Yeah, they're like sure. Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's relatable

I think they should have them, but just with the proper guidance. Yeah, or like how they have

I think they have like parental controls on things sometimes where it's like they can't do certain things

But yeah nowadays it's hard to even like get school and stuff like

There's times where you know

She has to message me from school and stuff and they won't they don't even want to go and talk to the office to have them call

She's just like I want to call you, you know, well

Yeah, it's I don't think I could take the SATs right now. I think my attention span is shot

Like if I just take a four-hour test right now, I think I'd like go crazy right

It's impressive how we used to be able to do that

Well, and I think nowadays too with like my daughter and she's in high school right now and they're allowed to retake tests

So like if they fail the test, they're allowed to go back in and retake and I'm like what does that teach you?

Like what is that you can't just retake life when you mess up on something and so

I think that's crazy like it's it's not the same and they don't have homework anymore in her school

It stresses kids out stop it. I'm not kidding. I hear Nevada's the second worst

Education system. Does she go to public school? Yes, she does this all makes sense

The best public high school that there is here

And it's it's got supposedly some of the best teachers at it, but it's still I'm like

I mean, I can't believe I'm defending homework right now because I hated it

But that was just like it taught you to be kind of you know responsible

You had to get it done or else you basically failed the class. Yeah

And in terms of retaking tests how no that was never

Every time every time I would just fail purpose at that point so I could see the question

And I don't even see them holding kids back like if you fail a class or whatever they don't even hold you back on that

So I'm like what are we learning here? It's almost like just like babysitting. Yeah

Yeah, if I have kids here, I'm not sending them to public

Well, I honestly feel like the only thing that is good about public school is that it teaches you how to deal with real life

And deal with real people and with bullies and with you know every type of person there is

And so because I've thought about pulling my daughter out and doing homeschool with her you know

private school or whatever, but

I'm like

And the only thing that has held me back from it because I don't even feel like she's learning as much as like

I feel like she should be learning is the social aspect

I mean because I feel like nowadays kids are so wrapped up in their phones and already have social anxiety

Issues and stuff like that that

Putting her in the where she has to go to school and has to deal with these types of people and know you know

So she learns how to deal with real life because what happens when she gets out of school and she

Rends into real people. Yeah, now it's a good point

Home schooling would be tough. I think with with your lifestyle

Well, I learned after COVID. Yeah, it's not working

All the kids where I'm doing school and it's like I walk into my sons completely asleep with the freaking screen on

And I'm like oh, I got into my daughters is doing her own thing and I'm like what

I'm doing what they're doing

I've tried online class in college like one of my classes was online. I failed it

I mean, there's just no motivation. Yeah, you open up a tab and you're like oh, I'm going YouTube. Yeah, you get sidetracked

Yeah, online school. I wouldn't do that either hell no

Yeah, crazy discipline for that to work. Yeah, she doesn't have it

So I was like no, I'm a school. I would say most kids don't have it these days

Like I never struggled with it on stuff I cared about right like school

I never gave shit about so I was whatever I liked school. I enjoyed it. Um, I just yeah, I don't know

I think like if you're passionate about it. It's not a struggle. Yeah, like you just got to figure out and kind of guide

These kids on what they like rather than teach them all the same thing most of them don't care about these topics

Well, I mean if you think about it everything that you learned in school like what did you actually really use in real life

Just reading with what you do, you know, I mean like there's there's a few things, but it's just like basic

Stuff I learned in elementary school. Yeah stuff like be you know being a model on a dancer and stuff

I didn't really I mean math adding up my check

You know what I mean, but it's like

Realistically, I didn't use most of the stuff that I'm learning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like it should be like

What do you like to do? All right, let's tailor something focus on that

But they make you learn science literature. Well literature. I guess it's needed. But um, yeah math is needed to a degree

Yeah, but not the crazy

Pre-cog and geometry. That's all useless. What was the other class? Uh, were those the only requirements?

Science math history. Oh history. Well, that's a hard one to talk about because

Everything gets changed. It's programmed. Yeah, it's not actual history. It's not objective. It's written in favor of the victor

So do you really need to learn that? I don't know

It didn't really affect my life learning about that stuff and that then I found out later most of it was yes

All these wars were fighting now, you know people were graded. Yeah, it's crazy

It's very crazy, but congrats because three kids. That's not easy

So well done

You know, it's in Saudis, especially in the entertainment industry and being in Vegas and when there's public school systems against you

So yeah, it's definitely hard. Yeah, well done. Well done

Where could people find you support you and check out the tattoo shop and everything?

So my tattoo shop is smiles and cries tattoo

It's on Vegas Valley and Maryland Parkway area and

My website subbenakelly.com and also my Instagram is at subbena kelly

So that's pretty much where you can see everything that I'm doing and keep up with what I got going on

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