Safety of America’s blood supply #37 Jim Thorp, MD

0:00Okay, so this topic today I think is a very critical conversation. For a lot of reasons, because it impacts all of us, it impacts our blood supply. And frankly, many of you may not know this, I don't know that Dr. Thorpe knows it, but let me just tell you that it's a topic that comes up a lot here actually. Many of you have written in emails and questions in the Q&As we do and all of that. A question of the blood supply. And that actually started in late 23, those questions started coming from smart people, smart people, smart people who got it.

1:04And it actually started to percolate up here before we really could even get our arms around what the possibilities were. It's funny how the audience will tell you things, the public, the American public will tell you things. Super smart people will pick up on it and we see that. It's reflected a lot in the questions and that sort of thing. So anyways, welcome to the broadcast, my fellow Americans, project out loud. So we're happy to be with you here. And I got the phenomenal, my dear friend and brother here, Dr. James Thorpe, Dr. Jim Thorpe. And he's a board certified OBGYN, a maternal fetal medicine, specialized almost, well, I don't even want to say how long because it would date you. It's been a few decades. Right, Jim? Yep. And if you add, it is amazing why Maggie who is just incredible and they have written some powerful blockbusters for America out loud by the way. I'll tell you about that a little bit later here.

2:05So let's jump into this and what precipitated this and why Dr. Thorpe is with us is because, well, tell him first briefly, Jim, so I get this right and then I want to go right into some thoughts here with you. But this was just published. Tell him what was just published and this was like what, last couple weeks here, wasn't it? Pretty quick. Yes, it was just published last week in preprint, the Nodo preprint, and it's being peer reviewed right now in a major medical journal. Okay. All right. Do we know which one or do we want to keep that on the other side? I'd rather not say otherwise, you know, this is such a controversial subject. They will attempt to call the journal up and preclude it from publication. Perfect. All right. No, that's cool. That's cool. I got to ask and you got to tell me. So that's cool. All right. And we don't want to jeopardize anything here. So are people started to get wind of this? As I just said, really a few years ago, that there could be a problem.

3:07It started to come in with a lot of questions and we suspected there could be a problem. And we addressed it on programs and said, we didn't really know, hold on. I mean, I'm not saying, you know, we have some crystal ball or something. We didn't really know Jim, but we thought, you know, based on all the evidence and that this could be out there and could be a problem unsuspectantly. And, you know, you're an emergency situation and you need the blood. You don't have a lot of options. Maybe at that point, that was a lot of the, the quandary people were questioned. Like, what do we do? What do we do? We don't want to have this problem. So what precipitated this? Why did you, you're the lead, lead doc on this, right? Why, what, what was, I don't even know, what, what, what the solar? Well, I've been on this rampage for six or seven years, since summer of 2020. I knew it was going to be pushed in pregnant women. And pregnant women are at much greater vulnerability

4:10for requiring a blood transfusion than the general population. If you believe that, study by Patterson and colleagues, it would be a 10 to 13-fold greater risk by time. So, and we know when you transfuse a pregnant woman, you're not dealing with just the pregnant woman, but the pre-born or pre-borns, right? So, the other issue was that rogam. Rogam, and we've used very important medication for, you know, 30 plus years. And I don't have time to go into it, but it prevents our H disease and subsequent pregnancies. All that to say this, it's derived from pooled plasma. So one dose of rogam at 28 weeks, exposes a pregnant woman to thousands, maybe five thousand blood donors. What do you think?

5:11When you say rogam, am I, are you talking about the rogam that guys were used for their hair and stuff? No, I'm sorry. Rogam. R-H-O-G-A-M. Rogam. I just wanted to make sure I was a missing something, because I thought why would pregnant women be taken that? I don't even understand, but okay. Right. And that's a drug that pregnant women are taken. That is an antibody to prevent R-H disease in subsequent pregnancies, only in R-H-Negative women. Okay. And all right. So your interest in this was pretty clear. And you were on it, wow, you were on it really early. This was, you're talking about the early, I mean, you're talking about, if you're saying mid-20, you're talking about the early part of COVID. That's what you're talking about. That's correct. The summer of 2020, because I pretty much knew it was going to be pushed in pregnant women. Well, you read that to you, right?

6:12That was really, about five, six months into it. As I remember, it was early 2020, and we started to see the reports coming from China. It really was in 2019, and that November to say, I mean, I reported on it. I know. And we started talking about it and say, well, there's something weird happening out there, but we had no idea it was going to do what it did worldwide, and what it would do here was insane. But it started to see some really odd factors out there, and that were happening. I'm not sure. So it was weird. So you were early on in your thinking was, because you knew they were going to push this kind of thing. All right. So here's the thing. In this paper again, it's in the preprint, Nizoto, Zenoto rather, Zenoto, right? Yeah. And as being peer reviewed, and this is a big deal. So part of the introduction, and this kind of hit with me a little bit, you said here, from the 1970s through the 1990s, multiple major blood safety scandals involving HIV and

7:17hepatitis contaminated blood products occurred internationally. These events led to public inquiries, litigation, criminal investigations, and some jurisdictions, and substantial reforms in blood safety practices now. So I read that, and I could do the math pretty quick and understand those were real problems, and there was an impact from that. Is what we're seeing right now, is your thoughts out that this is a repeat occurrence of a scandal of that magnitude? Is this what we're dealing with here now? Could be much worse. Could be much worse. It's kind of like Yogi Beras said, I feel like it's deja vu all over again, because I practiced in the early 80s. And by the way, I will review. I've been seeing patients as a doctor for 47 plus years. You look really good for 110, buddy. I mean, you're amazing. You're just a kid, right? You're just a kid. We still feel young.

8:17We still feel young, don't we? I feel like it. I know. Every ticket goes by, it's like, I don't feel a lot different than earlier times. 20 years ago, I don't really feel any different, probably because we take care of ourselves. I don't know. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Exactly. And when I look at Maggie, I feel like I'm 18. It's seen now. She's going to hear this later and say, man, you're buttering me up, man. It's the same thing I would say about D, my wife D. And the same, same way, very resilient, fantastic personality, amazing woman. We're lucky to be blessed to have partners like that, partnerships of life. That's really what I call it. Our wives, yeah, for sure. So, all right. So this could be even, I do suspect it will also be a bigger scandal than this one. I said, that's what I'm surmising as well, Jim. Truth be told, you know. But you were not saying this thing. Since 21 researchers have reported a wide range of serious adverse events following the

9:18modified mRNA, which is the Mod RNA, COVID-19 vaccinations. And you get, you get into all kinds of things. My car died as no degenerative diseases, all of them, you in conditions, etc. And the Mod RNA lipid nanoparticle platform has been reported to exhibit in affinity for the lipophila organs. Is my pronouncing that right? Perfect. Violet distribution studies have shown the presence of the Mod RNA in the brain heart, liver, and reproductive organs. All right. So let's do this. Let's now step back a minute here. Let me give you the floor and tell us both of these publications. And let's set the plane field for how serious this is. What's happening? Yes. First, let me just say that this is not vaccinated versus unvaccinated. In fact, these adverse threats, reactions, potential complications from transfused blood,

10:22maybe worse in the vaccinated. It's not just the unvaccinated. So we're all on this together. Part one is of the paper focuses on nine clinical cases that we've collected from around the world. And there's many more than that. But these are cases that we got permission, we verified, etc. The second paper, there are two completely separate papers, focuses on the government's own database. The CDC FDA veris database for adverse events that are relevant to these two publications. Right. And I seen both are red both. So which is the more serious of these two? They're both very, very serious together. You take like baby X, or I won't say baby X, that's baby Alex case number one. And I can talk about that baby because it's on other medias.

11:26But this was a really tragic case in which a newborn baby, the baby was born with some congenital malformations of the heart that are easily fixable. We see it all the time in major medical centers. They have a really, really good outcome. Mom and dad begged for donor designated blood, COVID-19 negative donor who they knew, that's called directed donor blood. And the hospitals and countries are not honoring that now, since interestingly, since the vaccine rolled out. So they begged for it, they didn't get it. They transfused the baby. And in essence, a few weeks later, the baby's dead. After the transfusion, the baby developed a massive blood clot from the leg, the lower leg, all the way up through the leg, the femur, the abdominal

12:32inferior vina cava, into the right atrium of the heart, and up into the superior vina cava. Baby died. Carbohel case. Let's go to case number eight. Case number eight is a beautiful young pregnant woman. And this was her fifth pregnancy. She had four prior term vaginal deliveries. Uncomplicated. She was our asian, negative. She did get rogam with each pregnancy. She had one miscarriage remotely. But in the interest, she delivered a baby, her fourth baby at home with a nurse midwife. Baby did find she did great. 30 minutes later, she started bleeding heavily. Was taken to the hospital. They did everything appropriately. She had a cervical laceration as a cause of the blood. She got transfused a few units of blood in plasma, eight units to be exact. And sure enough, she developed severe, what we call DIC, disseminated intravascular

13:40coagulation required a 30 or 32 day hospitalization. Then she had a blood clot in six or eight weeks after delivery, all of which they attribute to the blood transfusion. So it's very, very concerning cases. And there's several other cases that time won't prevent. She lived. She lived, but went through a lot of horrific experience, obviously. So, and then within VAERS, what are we talking there? I mean, those numbers are astronomical. Yeah, these are extremely high risk ratios. And just to remind us what we do in VAERS is we compare the novel vaccine with more established vaccines. So we were looking at a few lower level terms. And we were looking at hamorage. Was there a greater risk of hamorage after the vaccine?

14:40Was there a greatest risk of hamorage in pregnancy and absolutely by far and away? We then looked at several other variables, including transfusion. Was that increased massively increased with the COVID-19 vaccine compared to other vaccines? Then we also looked into transfusion complications. Transfusion complications, Malcolm. And there was a substantial increase in COVID-transfusion reactions, adverse reactions in COVID-19 patients compared with other vaccines. So that in of itself tells me all these patients receive COVID-19 vaccine. So even the COVID-19 vaccinated appear to be at risk. Arguably, they could be at greater risk because they've already been sensitized with the vaccine. Yeah. And you're right to point out. It always, you're so smart to do that because they always want to make it about the vaccinated,

15:46the unvaccinated, it always becomes a fight or whatever, you know, like. And so you settle the plane field right there. And then actually happened in a lot of cases where the vaccinated will more at risk for this or that or the other than the unvaccinated, that happened a lot actually throughout a lot of these experiments and throughout COVID because we reported on it quite a bit. And so that's the same case here, whereas, I don't know, they always seem to try to defer or suggest that the vaccinated are not at risk somehow. Is that the key? Yes. I think so. I think you nailed it. Yeah. And so, but that's that's not been the case. And and in many cases, it's reverse. You actually said it more at risk. And we found that on many levels with other areas of things where they're more at risk. In fact, you remember through the last part of COVID and through a lot of those episodes, the people who were getting it were the vaccinated actually were more.

16:47And so of course, they lied like hell. They told everybody that would solve the problem. Did the opposite, you had a higher risk of getting it than if you didn't have it. That was a fact as well. Do you recall that? Talking about speaking for a little bit. Absolutely. That's absolutely correct. Malcolm. Yeah, I thought so. I mean, I remember this stuff. We were there at ground zero when all this stuff was happening. It was pretty wild. All right, you put out a I still call it a tweet on X, but what else you're going to call it a post on X, I guess, but it's still a tweet, as far as we know. And you put out and you said here, this is just the other day. So this is pretty fresh. You said we now know that the government pharmaceutical cartel, and that is a proper word to use for these scoundrels to be a polite gentleman. I'll call them scoundrels. Could call them a lot of other things, but we'll call them that. They lied in the head safety signals regarding COVID vaccine since 2021.

17:51Did you really trust them to monitor the safety of our global blood supply? It assumed to be a 32 billion per year industry. Do you really trust them? And you said, I do not, and all capital letters. Now, before I get to the second part of that, well, I'm thinking of it here, when it comes to people like Senator Rand Paul and Senator Ron Johnson and even Josh Olly, these are some of the more outspoken people. What are they saying about this? Do you have, has there been conversation with them on this? And what do you, what do they say? I back channeled them, but I want to kind of keep that private since I didn't, I just want to respect the privacy, but I have discussed, I have mentioned it. Yeah, I would imagine they're not surprised. And we don't have to name names specifically or anything else, but I would imagine they're not surprised when they've seen the evil up front and close on the way they've had these hearings

18:54and the way the evidence has come out now. Would you agree with that? Absolutely. I think that they're so shocked at what has taken place with just hiding the disasters with pregnant women in the miscarriage and Fauci and Ryszowalinsky and the rest of them knowing the data and yet purposefully hiding it and then continuing to push the vaccine or alleged vaccine, I call it a gene therapy in pregnant women. Yeah, well, that's what they did all the way along. I mean, everything was a, was a, a a beat and switch and they lied like hell to everybody about all of it. And you had to question at all at some point and say, what was really going on? It was the, it was like a bad nightmare that we still haven't quite broken up from. And the thing we have to continue to remind the American public is never to forget. You cannot forget these pain moments and these crucial moments of life. Americans, Dr. Thawp, typically have

19:59short memories and mostly because we're, we're an optimistic people and that's a fact. And so we don't sort of sit at those, those worst possible moments of life. We don't stay there. We don't sit in that. We want to move on with life. We're optimistic. We believe there's a better tomorrow. We're in search of that American dream, which is many times elusive. But, and yet, you know, so I'm, I'm sure you, you see that yourself with, with folks. And so how do we, I guess the only way to continue to convince them is to have these programs and remind them, especially when you have something like what you've taken on here, huh? Yeah, I think you're right. It, it actually, I think many people would have the perspective of, of looking at this, like John Leake does in his newest book,

21:00The Mind Virus is like almost like a mind virus. And as he and Dr. Drew would point out, it's not really effective arguing data with somebody that has the mind virus. You, it's too catastrophic. You have to go take a different approach. Yeah. That's a very good point. What is the different approach? Any idea? Or is that just a general statement? It's a general statement. But I think that you, you, you have to go, you know, you can't, we had this metamorphosis of this insane idea that there's transgendarism that that somebody can be whatever gender they wanted. And it's a very complicated issue. But of course, it's nonsense. And now we have, you know, male players playing in the, in the WNBA basketball, we had in the Olympic Sasha, we had a male boxer that

22:01was male, that was pretending to be a woman. So this kind of stuff, it started way back in the Obama administration. And, and it's more of a culture. We'll see that. So we can't change their minds based upon data. It needs kind of a more global change of the culture that they're in. Yeah. Yeah. It's, we never could figure out why people were thinking and acting the way they were thinking and acting. And why the doctors in the healthcare industry were so far off the page. I mean, it was really, it just, it got to a point. There was no common sense left with any of it. So then you'd begun, it started to spin a lot of crazy ideas and people put a lot of their conspiratorial theories out there. And it got a little messy some of it. But that's what happens in the vacuum of truth and the vacuum of honesty and sincerity. What fills the gap is just a lot of

23:06accusations in your windows and bad things. I mean, right? That's, that's absolutely right. And I think you're right on with, with that analogy. And, and you know, I would ask the question, well, if the government had the audacity to try to hide those really severe safety signals in 2021. And remember, mind you, 80% of Americans took the vaccine. Well, you know, the same CDC and FDA are in charge of the global blood supply, the American blood supply. How easier would it be for them? Intempting to, to hide the transfusion blood transfusion complications from the American people. Very easy because only 1.5% of Americans get a blood transfusion. So 80% versus 1.5%. A lot easier to hide. Yeah, right? Yeah, you're right to say what else would they lie about? Well, I'm

24:10interested in your imagination, what that would be. I mean, the, the bullface lies that came through COVID were incredible. It was lie after lie of everything was a bogus lie. Every part of it was, you know, remember, everybody remember the times when you had to put the silly retarded mask on and then walk 10, 20 feet to your table at a restaurant and then take it off. I mean, that was like stupified. I mean, why would somebody, what, what, what is that accomplished? Remember the people you see outside riding bicycles and jogging and activities at the basketball court and everything else with full mask on and you think, what is it with? And then it became very polarized and political in a very nasty way for those who had it on and those who did it because like everything, they politicized everything and it got, it got really, really ugly, sadly, and never forget those times. I'll tell you what, never forget them. That's right. It's a rude reminder of all of it to what we went through. Listen, I pushed back.

25:13I know not to be a smart guy or smog or anything else, but I was not partaken in those mask charades. I was not part, and you know, it came with a little heartache from time to time. We were not partaken in the shot, the so-called vaccine, the EUA recipe that they were thrown in people. We were not partaken in that. Even though the colors that my daughter was in, they were threatening to pull her out and I said, well, you can just take that vaccine and put it right on the backside with the sun-done shine. As a gentleman, I said that. As a gentleman, of course, you know, didn't use any Voguella, Voguella, it is nothing like that, Dr. Thorpe. It's a total gentleman, as you know me to be. Absolutely. That's the way I presented my case, but it was implied. It was implied. I stood with that. I tell you real fast because I don't think you know that there was one Maggie were laughing at this. There was one Friday we're out for dinner. Those of you have heard me before, I've said the story, I think, once one of the times. They might have

26:14heard me say before, but it was Friday. We had a reservation in one of our favorite places, and my two college-aged kids who are in the car and my wife and I were headed to it that, you know, I haven't had dinner. I'll celebrate whenever I, you know, celebrate everybody's buckle and not man-tayed and locking down. We're living life, man. We're trying to restaurant. I get to restaurant and they said, okay, you know, check it. They said, okay, sir, you have to put the mask on and you can't sit in the area here and you're going to have to wear that to get to the table. And I said, no, no, no, we don't, we don't do the mask thing. I said, what we're cool. I said, we're fine. I said, we're very healthy and we're not to worried about this kind of stuff. Thank you. You know, she said, no, no, no, that's our policy, sir. You have to do that to be able to go in and eat. And I said, your policy, I said, let me tell you what my policy is as the customer. I said, I'm not putting it on. I said, and I'm not going to partake in your charade. And she said, uh, uh, well, then we can't serve you. And I said,

27:17well, that's a big mistake on your run because you just lost the customer of your life. I said, I'll be sure to tell everybody else I meet how ridiculous you are and what you did. Well, so from there, we left there. That was the reservation we had. We went to another place. They pulled the same stunt. Went to another place. They said the same stunt. It's three of the places beside that initial place with four places. And they all wanted the mask on who walked. So finally, I just said, you know, the kids were like over at everybody else. I said, no, no, I go one last thing. I pick up my cell phone, which I got right here and I pick up the, hey, you know, I call across the county. A beautiful spot right by the river. And I said, uh, you know, do you have a spot available? First of all, do you do this mask thing? You have to wear the mask to the table kind of thing because I, if we're not to partake it in that exercise. And she, she said, no, she said, we don't do that here. I showed this is my kind of place. I said, I knew you people were logical over there. That's marvelous. I said, do you have a spot that you can get us in? It's still early in the evening. She said, you bet. She's gonna be right you down. Malcolm come right over. That's so cool. It's true story. And we drove over there. Gonna have a beautiful evening. It was just so kind of

28:20cool to just kind of buck the whole thing. You know, kind of buck the system of, you know, that they're forcing something on your beating it into your, you're gonna do what we tell you to do. You're not gonna get to the table and you ain't get your food. I said, well, I'll show you. Yeah. Good for you. I know. So that really happened. Anyways, it was, it was quite something here. All right. A lot of questions that you all have is what do you do? And we're gonna talk about that when Dr. Thoth on the backside of the program. What do you do? Because that was actually one of the consistent questions that started to come in. And we got a lot of those. Smart people that figured out the blood supply problem before really was even noted that it could be a problem. They've said, wait a minute here, two and two. Don't really add up here. There's gonna be a problem. And then you got the shed in people were shed and you got that kind of a problem and became pretty widespread. What was going on? So people became very suspect and concerned, deeply, deeply concerned. And this is everybody. This is not just pregnant women or

29:24it's just people that didn't want to take a risk or chance because you never know when you're in that situation. And some people needed it for operations they were doing. And they had to, sign a thing in advance that you might need blood and you might have to have it. You get those life situations and you can't help it. For God's sake, you're in a horrible accident, loss of blood, something happened there. You could be totally accidentally also. So we'll talk a little bit about that as well. And chapter two of the talk here and then I have a few other things, Angles, I want to talk about here. All right, so let me just do a reboot with everybody. Dr. Jim Thoth is here and you are one of the cool guys. You're doing some really significant work. But you're really, how do I say? I never use names, but there are some people in this business and what have you that are constantly, and you know what I mean out there. When they say,

30:24look at me, look at me, look at me, and they're constantly doing that sort of thing, kind of playing for the whatever the camera or the whoever whatever, you know, it's sort of thing. You're not like that. You're different. Jim, you sort of take a different road. And I really mean this. This is sort of, you're kind of not for sale for some of that stuff, like a lot of them are. So that's my opinion. You know what I'm saying, I think. It's true. Yeah, right. It's got to be true. Because I've never seen you, you know, kind of look at me, look at me. I'm the big guy on campus, kind of thing, you know, whatever, right? Fair enough. Absolutely. That's fair. That's true. So that's kudos to you and your amazing wife, Maggie. You guys are a team. Thank you as well. So I want to tell you first, before we get into some of Dr. Thorps contacts, when you go up to the top of America out loud. News, just put your mouse over authors and hosts. Go down to T. They're all

31:25alphabetical. You're going to see the most beautiful and handsome group of people you ever met in your life. These are our family of experts here are. I mean, you're talking doctors and nurses and you're talking engineers and scientists and military generals and, you know, just really cool people that provide a lot of the shows and the content and the articles and columns. And all the great things to help people out. That's what America out loud is about. And you'll see all of that. Go down to the T and you'll see here it is right here. Maggie Thorps, JD and Jim Thorps. Maggie's in attorney, by the way. So, right, Jim? She is and she's got a master's in divinity as well. Yeah, she's, let's just say she's one smart person, one smart lady. She is. I wouldn't want to be on the other side of the courtroom of her. Well, that's what I was thinking when I was trying to find the right answer. I better just stay with that a minute here, but you're still, you're, well, smart people are like that. You're not going to, you're not going to pull a lot over on them kind of thing. You know, so I always,

32:28anyway, so Maggie, so click that and I'm telling you, you'll see some blockbuster research articles and some points of reference throughout this whole episode that are eye-opening. And many of those Maggie was the lead author in fact, many of them. And Dr. Jim Thorps did a lot of the other stuff whether they were a team, but she was at a correct statement. That is, we published probably 16 really unique. These could have been easily peer reviewed and published extensively referenced as you know how meticulous Maggie is. So written from a JD and from an MD. And you know, we broke some really, really early stuff thanks to you and America outlawed platform. Talking about some of the stuff you were talking about, you know, that we throughout the concept that, hey, this vaccine doesn't stay in the arm. The vaccine modified mRNA goes straight to the

33:30fetus and we were left threatened, criticized. And what do you know? We turned out to be right. Four years later, they formed the pharmaceutical industry. She called out the CVSers and the Walgreens and she'd chapter in verse, being in a being and a being. She had it all in there, right? I mean, that's it. She went after it all and pretty remarkable stuff and it still stands the test of time today. So it's worthy of it. So go there and check that all out as well. What are the contact points you want them to have, Jim? Here for you. My website drjamesthorps.com. And that's dr as in drjamesthorps.com. No, we on the thorp. And then my ex account is all lower case jathtorp mfm as in Mary Frank Mary. Yeah. Okay. Those links will be in the post as this goes to podcast video podcast and of course, you'll play on talk radio as well. And by the way, when you go

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37:34are my words Jim, my quote, play offense with your health, not defense. So what I mean by that is healthy immune system, you play offense by staying on top of things, using, you know, like something for your national hygiene and throat spray. This is the kind of stuff you do to stay healthy so you don't get sick. It's just a fact. Those four at the top from the wellness company are must-haves and D and I take them every single morning. Of course, I walk five miles every morning as well. We walk about five, 36 o'clock. We're up pretty early there. And I'm out walking. And I like that because it's still dark out and the world hasn't woken up quite yet. Although people are, you can see lights go on sometimes in their bathrooms and stuff. You know how that goes. So, but I'm out there walking and the sidewalks of America, I call it. I love it. I love it. And it might my little dog, my little dog, he's a Chinese-crested Zachary and a cool little guy. And we walk out. He gets a lot of miles like I do, Jim, you know. And but the four products we take, and these are,

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39:42immune system. And that is the key to all of this, my friends. If there's anything, it's the gift of life. It's the gift of health, which create the gift of happiness. And that's what I like the best about all of this. Sheer and the wealth of knowledge, information and health is, is a perfect thing. And you know, if we're only going to do anything for us, for anything, we have to do things for ourselves. Our health, and I say this to my wife all the time, our health and our wellness should not be secondary to other things. You should not put off things that are important to that central point. Like my wife would, I'm, again, everybody is different. I take my wife's things out every morning because she wouldn't, she wouldn't do it. She just doesn't go to that extra mile to do it. And of course, I give her hail every morning for not every morning, but now in that every blue moon. Actually, I don't do that at all anymore. I'm just used to doing it now. And it's actually my gift to her, actually, but I take it all out and I make her drink up in the morning, all that and give that to her, you know, and of course, she's in the bathroom. I bring it into the bathroom before I go out and walk and stop and make sure she's good to go, you know, how that goes.

40:45She's getting ready, you know, for the day. And that's what things we do, right, Dr. Thore? That's right. Malcolm. All right. You do it for Maggie. I bet you hope. Absolutely. So if not, she'll call me and tell me. All right. So here we go here. Back with Dr. Jim Thornton, chapter two of the conversation here. All right. I want to just finish that that tweet you put up on August 22nd when you said, I do not. You asked the question, do you really trust them to monitor the safety of a global blood supply? And you said, it's soon to be 32 billion year industry. Do you really trust them? I do not. In capital letters. And that is pretty clear here. You said that if the stakeholders have the audacity to hide safety signals after the COVID vaccines, give it 80% of Americans, the very easily it could and would hide ignore safety signals after blood transfusions, given to only one and a half percent of Americans per annum. And you mentioned that already. That's a key point to bring out here. And they are violating published ethical principles of patient autonomy and non malfeasance by denying patients

41:51the option of getting donor designated blood from non-vaxed donors. Okay. Concernally, our study showed that it's possible that the vaccine may be more risk in the unvaccinated. This is not a vast versus unvaccinated issue. Hello. And you have to almost say that today because that's what they do. They make it into like black and white Democrat Republican vaccine. It's just life. They just love the division. They use race. They use everything. It's just sick. Really is. So that's the deal there. And that got me thinking that message, which is why when I seen it, and then you texted me, I said, we got to talk about this here. All right. The I want to get to the solutions here a moment here. One of the things that I and I don't know where this is going to go yet. You don't know where this is all going to go yet. This is still in the stages of trying to bring awareness to this thing. And you're on the path and on the road right now to open up eyes, which will hopefully open up hearts and minds to do some of the right things.

42:58And we are looking for some accountability at some point on some of this very much, but trying to remedy what's wrong. What are some of the things you can do when you're in these situations? And some of it you're okay. Some of it's planned and you know in advance, but some of it's not planned. You don't know in advance when you're in that life, threat, and a situation. If you don't do certain preparations, you may not have a choice. How do we tackle this? Let's take a few moments and tell folks, please. Yes, I think you're absolutely right. If you get in a car accident on the way home tonight and you need six units of blood, you're not going to have the opportunity to even request donor designated blood from donors that are not COVID-19 vaccinated. You don't have that. It's a life and death decision. And I think that in that situation, obviously you need to roll the

43:58dice and take the blood. And you know, the same thing for this rogam issue, I just had a fellow contributor to your platform. I actually, I'll mention it at the column. He's a great guy. You love him. I love him. Dr. Stewart tankerfully. Right. And he called me up with not a family member, but a patient, a young married woman, first pregnancy, 28 weeks. She's our each negative. And he's really concerned about her taking the rogam shot. And so I went through that with him. And you know, in that situation, when I weigh risks and benefits, you know, I said the usual stuff, you know, make sure you do the genetic test to make sure that the baby inside her womb is our each positive. And if it's our each positive, then I think you just need to take the rogam shot. Otherwise, we're risking our each disease and all the pregnancies for the rest of

45:00her life. So yeah, there are certain circumstances that you can't mitigate. You just have to do the best you can with what's available. But you also can talk and you also can lobby many of you have contacted me and Malcolm from the very onset of starting the vaccine saying, what about the blood? What about the blood? I know that because I was posting back then. And I was really impressed with the number of Americans that knew in their own heart that this was going to be a problem with the blood. Yeah, it really was I open in when the questions started coming in. And the way they were looking at this and suspecting that this could and would be a problem down the road. And they were right on it. And that's why I was really amazed and thrilled actually that you took this on. And when you told me, remember, we were talking on the call on a call. And I wrote a made a note. And I

46:04said, this is great. Jim. I said, we got to cover this. We got to get on this and so on and so far to get the word out of there out there. So, all right. So what about, you know, so, you know, again, accidents, things happen. Life, you're very surgeries, things, you know, and you need the you need the blood, you know, and certainly pregnant women, as you say as well. But so what about the take a moment in the preparation and advance for procedure or something where you get what are some of the things in other words, so you don't find yourself at a moment risk or that tricky moment. There are things you can do before then to get tested blood that you're comfortable with. Am I speaking correctly here that you would have available for yourself? Is that correct? Yes, there's basically two options available. Number one, you can do what we call self-blood donation, well in advance, we use a big word for that, autologist, meaning one self, donate your own blood

47:07for yourself. And it can be frozen and stored for quite some time and then thought out at the time of your surgery. That's a really, really good strategy. And hey, if it doesn't go to good use or you have somebody that's donated blood, there are two organizations right now. They're not blood banks, but are Clinton Olers, Dr. Clinton Olers, and I'm sure he would love to be on your platform. He's a truth or and he is the he is a president of this organization in the United States of America called safeblood.org.com, safeblood.org is in Europe, safeblood.com is in the United States of America. And what they do as they actually match people up, so when I was doing my contract, high risk obstetrics work and when I do it, I was in the Midwest and I had two patients that were extremely

48:08high risk for requiring blood transfusion at the time of their delivery. So I set them up with safeblood.com. And you know, this Dr. Olers called my patients up and held their hands through the process and got them what they do is they match local wherever you live, whether it's, you know, Zulu, Mississippi or Alaska, they have COVID-19 negative blood donors, people that are willing to donate their blood to safeblood or match, match. So that safeblood will then contact that individual and say, Hey, Mrs. Smith needs a couple of units of blood. Would you be up for donating it at the local blood center with her name on it? And then the doctors in the office and the hospital can take it from there. So that's what it's blood. And there's another organization called Unvaccinated Corps that does the same thing. Okay. Yeah. That's, this is great to hear. Give me his name again from safeblood. Dr. Speller for me, please. It's our period just initial our Clinton C L I N T O N

49:17Olers O H L E R S O E S L E R H L E R S P H D a wonderful man, a strong conservative, well-spoken follower of Jesus. And you know, I've been on his tail for the last several years, you know, getting him to co-author this manuscript with me. And he did? He did. He's a co-author on both of these publications. Okay. Good to know. I was looking at some of the folks in there and stuff. Yeah. I don't remember. Yeah. So all right. That is good. This is really great news with safeblood.com. And we kind of suspected that some of this was going to happen. And where they would start testing and they would be like a bank of where they would hold the blood and have it available for you and stuff. And that's what they're doing. These guys, right? I mean, no, no, they're not

50:21doing that. It's a step removed from that. Nobody can be allowed to blank, but bank blood except the government, right? So it's a cartel. But what they do do is match up okay. Patients that are not vaccinated, okay. They're willing to donate their blood in your city in your township. However, remote it is. But but but people still can do it themselves. You said right. And their own blood, if you done it, you do it in advance. And where does that blood go? You go to the hospital, the facility of the doctor or something or that that can be obtained through your doctor's office, through the local blood bank tagged with your name on it. Okay. So the church surgeon knows it's there and it will go through the usual channels. And guess what, if you don't use it, it goes back into the general blood supply. It's not wasted. How long would they hold that for? Any idea? Dr. Thone? Well, you know, generally a red blood cell, lifespan is is we're looking at only 12 weeks, but donor blood is really starts to lose its

51:28its safety and advocacy, you know, after six or eight weeks on the shelf. Okay. All right. So there's a period of time there, obviously, where you have to do it. And but you give it to the blood bank. And that's a that's a great concept then. But you say that's kind of the reason that's a green light. I think you're saying to me is because that's run by the government. Right. Safeblood.com is not run by the government. Exactly. And the government raises their eyebrow at it because they want the American people to believe that all the blood is safe. And in fact, they've refused. They've refused. We've documented the paper in several states of refused to even allow patients to do don't don't designated blood. So they've had to travel across state lines in order to do to get their surgery Malcolm. Yeah. I believe it. And that's good to know as well what you say right there. And but that should tell you everything about this thing when you know, like said, the government they play by a different set of rules. Don't they know?

52:30Yes, they do. Right. I mean, and you're kind of at their mercy as well. Pretty much. How long do you think this will take with the peer review and all the process? What's the time factor? What's your guess? It's a that's a great question. I don't know. It's being reviewed right now is. Okay. But if it could take up to six weeks or longer if they start playing games with us, like they've done with other manuscripts that that they are not willing to publish due to pole potential political consequences. Yeah. Kind of like the the article that we at the wellness company submitted and got published in the anti research anti cancer research general. They tried to pull that off when when the the oncology the cancer folks organizations around the world. They're had exploded when they saw that paper and they put a lot of pressure on the

53:31journal to do remove it. Yeah. So yeah, it's so there's so many shenanigans they're playing. It's it's ridiculous. And again, the entire health field has been turned upside down backwards. All of these medical publications have I mean, they've all been just just terrible what's going on. They've lost their reputations. Yes. They've done some very bad things and it's sad. But you know, the one thing I will leave you with this note here, if there's a silver lining and it's hard to say there's any silver lining in this massacre of what it was is that this stuff has been going on for a long time. Maybe we didn't know it. Obviously, we didn't know it, but it's now being exposed. And we knew that the further we get away from the epicenter of COVID-19, the more exposure it's going to get as things happen as you further where you get there's going to be more exposure. And the accountability is going to be the key. Where's the accountability? And that's something I don't have the total answer on obviously, but we pray and hope there is some accountability here.

54:36So anyways, Dr. Jim, thought you are terrific. You're amazing. And thank you for doing this. First of all, with the blood supply and it makes sense that you're at the front of this and really appreciate you joining me, brother. Thank you. Malcolm, thank you very much for having me on your platform. For hosting Maggie, my wife and I on your illustrious America outlawed platform. And for those of you out there listening, please support Malcolm, go to his store, support his channel. He's a beacon of truth in a very dark world. Amen to that. Thank you so much, brother here. It is a blessing of a lifetime for me. It is this network and to work with such incredible people has been. There's no doubt I'd say it all the time. It's the blessing of a lifetime without a doubt. It's just been a gift. And we've worked hard with 10 years old. We just celebrated our 10 year anniversary. And as the country celebrates 250, we celebrate our 10. So anyways, it's been a remarkable time here.

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