Scam Altman's Crypto Currency

Hey, by the way, Casey, can I show you something?

Yes.

Long as it's not something under the desk.

I don't want to see the knob under the desk.

Show me.

This is what I was programming all day today.

So tell me how excited I need to be.

I'm assuming this is not...

It's not a real Commer 64, is it?

It is. It's by the company Commer 64.

They remade it.

It's the Commer 64 Altimastered version.

Is it a real like...

So it has some USB...

It has some USB A's on the back.

Okay.

It still has the cassette.

It still has the same audio out.

You still got the VGA's right here if you need them.

It comes with the cassette that had a USB like a flipper.

It's like a cassette, but then it actually flips out as a USB.

But then I immediately plugged it in and it broke.

So I had to take it apart.

And now I just have...

I just have floating USB.

Like, I'm the Terminator.

If I drop this at all...

It broke a lot, like physically broke a lot.

Anyways, that was fine.

How much is that way?

This thing?

Honestly.

Trash, you could lift it.

We saw your muscles last week.

I mean, that's pretty much all I was getting at.

You know?

On ironically, Trash, these two together,

because this is steel on the bottom,

is like pretty much the same way.

But what is in that C64 show, though?

Like, is it an FPGA that has the files?

The files are...

The files are in the concept.

How is it made?

Like, what is it?

Is it an FPGA that apparently...

Yeah.

Okay.

So it's not an FPGA that actually just has the original chipset.

Yeah, that's an FPGA that's apparently...

Oh, it is an FPGA.

And apparently there's 16 megabytes of RAM,

but I only saw a 38...

I only have like 38,000.

But I was sitting there thinking 38,000 bytes.

But I was thinking that the input interface is really inconvenient.

And you can technically do syntax highlighting.

There's a non-zero chance you could create VIM.

Or at least VI on the Commodore.

I don't see any reason why you couldn't.

Yeah, why not?

I was assuming there was a version of VIM that ran in less than 64K.

Yeah, I would assume you could make it run in there.

It was really little amount of time.

Really old.

Yeah.

VIM, I shouldn't have said VIM.

VI.

Yeah, VI.

My big problem, honestly,

is I don't know how to save a file or create a file.

So that's like, that's really hampering my progress.

It's not really that necessary for you.

I know that you're getting passed anywhere that needs it.

I think what you should do is find the two things.

You should try to get cross code to write C64 for you, right?

Well, it's like open code.

How do I save a file on my Commodore 64?

I didn't want to do that, so today.

I actually, the reason why I never once whipped out the AI for today,

because I just was going to read the friendly manual the whole time.

Nice.

Yeah.

We actually got pretty far from the manual too.

Didn't I?

Yeah.

That's a great song.

I got a nice old.

It's the Commodore 64 manual.

Got it all right here.

Yeah.

It did tell me that if I want to go a little bit more advanced,

I do need the reference.

The 1982 handguide.

I didn't have that.

So if I have to go more, you know,

if I need to go deeper,

I'm going to have to find that 82 print.

You can probably just ask open code to generate for you.

Probably has it all in its memory.

Read me back.

And I did it.

Usually the way that people have developed for the C60.

Well, it depends on who you were.

But a lot of people developed for the C64 using an expansion cartridge,

so that they could kind of have the like extra memory that they could use

for like their development while the actual memory of the C64,

you know, remained for develop, you know,

running the game and that sort of thing.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Also, here's a little tidbit for you that's pretty crazy.

Uh, one of the reasons I've often said that Ron Gilbert's kind of a badass.

Uh, he is the guy who basically made, you know,

the first version of scum, the thing that ran.

Miniac mansion and secret among the island and all that stuff.

Sorry, what?

I said the agile thing.

No.

Not scrum.

Scum.

I know.

Back when acronyms were cool.

Instead of playing, that's pretty good.

Thank you.

I tried to figure out how to make it work,

but as it's like, oh, it's, it's not going to work.

But if I turns out, if you just went forward, it actually does work.

You just got to look really dumb at the camera and chat will believe anything.

Anyway, they actually, one of the really cool things about their dev environment

is they actually developed on a mainframe that could like sort of act

as almost like a, like a control plane for the Commodore 64.

And it could like save this and restore the state and all this stuff.

Like they had insane dev tools back in the time.

I like listen to, to Ron describe them one time.

And I was like, oh, my God, like that is so incredibly cool.

They, they basically had like way more advanced dev than, you know,

pretty much anyone else at the time was using for something like a C64,

which was super cool.

Do you think it's possible that I could, um,

I could write a TypeScript to basic compiler for my Commodore.

And that way I can write TypeScript like a web dev and sit on Phil's lattes

and then, but also at the exact same time be a happy man.

Yes, you shouldn't.

Yes, because you should be able to go right to 6502 assembly.

You shouldn't need the basic because you can just,

you can just, you should be able to go right to 6502 in there, right?

I think that's what that was.

6502.

It's true.

She should be able to just go right to 6502 assembly

and just be like super hard.

It's like, yeah, I go TypeScript to 6502.

Tell me, what do you do?

What do you compile it to?

What do you compile it to?

What do you compile it to?

To JavaScript?

That doesn't make sense.

That's not even anything that can get run by.

I mean, I'm, it's 6510 is what they're trying to tell me.

Okay.

So it's a more modern.

Other people are saying 6502.

I don't know.

Don't listen to chat.

I have no idea, although I did have a conversation for back in the day.

I was too young and dumb to have any idea what even a chip was.

So that didn't matter.

But I was going to say is I would be shocked if you couldn't find like LLVM like 6502 back end.

Like that almost certainly is a thing, right?

Right.

It probably is.

The problem is that TypeScript probably by default,

if you do a compilation without really like setting things up exactly,

it probably outputs a binary that is like so like a hundred times larger

than the C64's memory space.

So that's going to be a problem.

But if you could figure out how to get TypeScript to just compile like just itself,

you might be with bonds.

Yeah.

Right.

No.

It does not seem like he believes.

Yeah.

64K is very small, guys.

It's not 64K.

I think for $64,000, we probably could find a computer that could do a case.

Yeah, Casey.

It's like, yeah, I mean, I can just do it on my regular computer.

But I don't even need that much, that much case.

Oh, man.

And plus, by the way, kids call it 64 bands these days.

They don't call it 64 bands.

I'm just saying they call it 67K.

But sure.

Casey, I already made, I made prime a song today and in the song,

it talked about how the song would make him very sad.

And how his hands were moving up and down on the keyboard.

And then it was like Commodore 64, more like Commodore 67.

Okay.

So it also made the same joke.

Yeah.

The AIs are working overtime.

I wrote those lyrics on first.

Oh.

Oh, sorry to apologize.

They were so good.

They were so good lyrics.

But they were there.

I did predict the future.

I said it was going to make prime frown and it did.

So that was flawless execution.

Is that terminal shirt?

T-shirt?

T-shirt?

T-shirt?

T-shirt.

T-shirt, you like that?

Is that what it is?

I just saw what it is.

I just zoomed in.

I just zoomed in.

I was like, oh, it's cursed.

I was like, wait a minute.

That's pretty sad.

Yes.

T-shirt.

It needs to be more, the cursing needs to be longer rectangularly.

No?

I don't know.

I was thinking about that.

But then I thought it would look really goofy.

Yeah, if it got much longer, it would look very goofy.

Yeah.

Practically.

It's right now.

Like if you know, you know trash. That's kind of like it, you know, I know apparently I know so no did you guys ever release the like

Video of you guys like on the boat in Miami. Oh, that's coming out soon actually. It's funny

You say that every time I ask is it wait is it really come out? I've been saying I don't know what we're gonna do with it

I mean, there's a bit of what we're gonna do with it. Oh, and now we actually know where it hasn't even been one trash

Oh my god, I feel like it was like four years ago

Trash that last track been a full year. Oh, I think it's cuz like I wasn't at the last react Miami

So I just assumed it was like the last

It's coming out soon. All right

Cuz we're gonna go do some stuff at react Miami most likely. This is a spoiler alert for some people

So we're gonna use it as some promo for the already tweeted it that you guys are gonna be there. Yeah, that's a great point

Trash. People already know we're coming. That's that's not a problem. All right, all right, so hey, can you should we get started?

Oh, I'm so ready. I want to give you the intro and then you guys go. Yeah

Yes

All right, everybody to do the most special intro of all time, which is teach is gonna give the intro

TJ give the intro you guys have heard of looped

Probably not actually, but that was scam altman's first rug pull

Then he'd had open a high and now he has world coin. So we're gonna talk about that today

In case you don't know you can look up the looped fiasco. It's actually scammed to by the way actual scam altcoin. So okay

This this presentation is because a few weeks ago

I referenced the fact that a such a thing called world coin exists

Number one you'd say that's the dumbest name you could give to anything that sounds for sure like you're gonna steal things from people

destroy their lives

But that's okay. So then Casey and Trash both had heard of it before so I was like, okay

We got to bring this to the slides. I got to bring some facts and logic to this

discussion here with some historical data and I got even

More weirded out by it after I did some real reading. So that's always fun for presentation. So

World coin

This is a real thing

Like Sam Altman says are you human? Sam Altman wants to find out like times publishing it. This is from

hilariously from

World coins account which it feels insane to post this picture

Wow, it's like does that picture not seem ominous and bad they posted it though

It's like my bidet. It looks like no. It looks like the the robots from Oblivion with Tom Cruise that go around and murder all the humans

Yeah, Trash. Uh, there's a camera here. So this you definitely do not want this to be a bidet

Let me just throw that house you'd be having a bad day if you had that

Yeah, sorry, that's sick. Well, that's so good

Well, this is your fecal analysis AI fecal analysis, which I think it's something it could really excel at

I mean already people are squeezing out a lot of

Things that could you speak on

Okay, so what actually is going on here first off

I need to meet a quick legal disclaimer everything. I've learned about world coin. I learned from chat GPT

So if anything is wrong in this presentation

You can sue yourself Sammy boy. Okay, Chuck may AI

That's the first thing. I just need to get that legal disclaimer out of the way

Because I don't want to get sued by the super mega corpse. Okay, great. That's that's where we start

That's actually our first legal disclaimer of the standup. This is really good. We made it a year without it

And I bring the slides. I know that I need to do this. Hey, is that HTTP get that out of here

That's that how we order coffee we order coffee by a SSH terminal dot shop. Yeah, you want a real experience

You want real coffee you want awesome subscription so you never have to remember again

Oh, you want exclusive blends with exclusive coffee and exclusive content then check out cron you don't know what SSH is

Well, maybe the coffee's not for you

And

Here's my favorite here's my favorite quote from chat GPT about this world coin represents a collision of trends crypto

biometrics AI and global inequality

Escalating real fast has been a magnet for debate. So technically

Sam Altman himself said that. I think that's how that works

So that's that was my favorite quote that chat GPT generated well doing some research on this. So that's great

I guess that's really quick question. Yeah, what meant is that meant to be like

It is going to help cure global inequality or is it going to help cause

The permanent underclass get your stuff together. We got three months

Yes, great. Well, what's kind of interesting about it is it doesn't

Really say anything about what it's going to do. It's merely saying that it represents trends that already existed

Like it's like these are four things that already were in the world and I named it world coin

They're by representing them

I guess and we're about to find out perhaps what special features of world coin make it uniquely representative of these trends

It's got a unique real trends

Better than going on here. So all right

This I'm pretty sure this is a reenactment of how the company started. So

Sam hey guys AI is going to be so good you won't be able to tell who's a human

Okay, weirdly enough. I also have a product to fix this problem

Which is not a conflict of interest by the way

So we need proof of human right that's that's where Sam starts

Casey of course drops in with a quick. We still need proof that you are human

Um, true

I was literally just going to say that

Did you do the exact same pose too? We like wait a minute

I pre-watched my own presentation chat. I knew what Casey was going to say and I had literally I was going to be like

Is this just the way that Sam is desperately trying to get on the human blockchain?

So he's like I'm really human guys. I promise. They're like we don't believe you no one believes you

Oh, yeah, we'll then check my world ID

Okay

So Sam says anyway, give me all your personal biometric data. I'm great with data

Oh true to which and reason or it says ha okay

Here's 25 million dollars call me later if you need some more. Okay. He's going to be a returning later

Also a quick read Hoffman investment at the beginning do that be sick

We never figured out how to tell if people were bots on my site. So this could be helpful

LinkedIn founder. Okay, because you cannot tell that those are not bots

All right, so they get 25 million dollars and they start a company called tools for humanity. All right

Uh, sounds like the company that makes cards against humanity. Yes, it's a better name for this

But unfortunately, that's the real name

From a recent

Uh, I didn't know what you'd call YouTube video you could say

Uh, they announced what their simple plan is to build a human network number one

Before we get to number one actually the phrase human network has to be

Terrifying when you hear a big texio say that. So that's just take it for itself

It reminds me of human centipede a little bit

Yeah, you know what I mean like I'm thinking like oh, we plug the humans together like mouth to butt

Kind of a thing. Yes. Exactly. So

Basically, they need an anonymous way to get proof of human then they're going to

distribute ownership of the network

Then they're going to scale and decentralize continuously

Then they're going to use it to make the benefits of AI accessible to everyone

You'd say how is that going to happen? Oh, there's a lot of hand waving after the first one. Okay

My favorite quote from this presentation though is when the co-founder of tools for humanity

Says that the thing Sam Altman really brings really his greatest contribution was just he kept telling us

We need more scale and a direct quote from Sam Altman is when in doubt scale it up

From this presentation. That's what he said. I say yes. I have a question. What? Yes. Who is this person?

Who is the person in that like that's not Sam Altman? It's not this is a Alex

I forgot his last name. He's the he's currently the one who's actually running the company apparently Sam

This is still exists. He's the fall. Oh Casey just wait. Just wait. Casey looks very serious for you that you won't

Okay, so

Tools for humanity emphasis my own so it's founded in 2019 right their first round of funding a

16z coastal ventures read Hoffman so they're saying right AI is gonna flood the internet with bots

We're not gonna be able to figure it out

So we need a way to actually show that the person you're interacting with is in fact a real human

And also you be I

I'm not joking you

They start the company for you be I because Sam is saying I'm gonna take all of your jobs because my AI is so good

I'm so good at AI. We're gonna take all of your jobs

You're gonna need money and the only way to do it is from my separate company that has a cryptocurrency

Okay, so how are they going to prove that people are people

World ID, so how do they do that? The orb the first picture that I showed at the beginning. Okay, no the day. No

Are you? It's also that you can this is not happening

And that's all I take this off guys stop naming everything ominous

Okay, why why would you call it the orb?

It's just I got a question. I had a question. Why they call it Palantir. There's like like

Palantir was actually a pretty good one because it allows you to see in distant lands and all that that's actually that was pretty

But it's evil. It's evil. That's the point. Maybe evil, but at least it's more clever because most people don't know Palantir

That's a very great great reference, but all right

Second my mom doesn't know what that is

But second, I do have one problem with this entire hypothesis

Which is that the problems of AI

Truly can only be solved with more AI like that's what I've been led to believe so this this whole like strategies blown my mind right now

That's a good point. I'm getting to that part though. I'm sure we're getting to the AI part prime. There's there to be some AI in your summer

Yes, this is like your first start a company. This is what I would do

And

And that's a dis on myself. That's how bad this is

Okay, so what does the orb do you go to it and you get your eyeball scanned and they get a unique because your eyeball is unique like a fingerprint

Right your iris also like an anus print also unique

Whoa, yes, think fingers scanning. Yeah, sorry. Can you back it up a bit there? No prime can save that for his own slides

I don't want that as part of my presentation

So are you saying the three things we can scan of a human?

Is there a finger their eye and their ass is that is that do we quick question on each of those

Do identical twins have the same ones for all of all three of the above?

There's only one way to find out my question is where can we stick this orb so can this can you put your finger on this orb?

Then put your eye on this orb then put your ass on this orb. Hopefully in that order to avoid

Verification. Yeah, just don't be second. Yeah, yeah, we don't worry. We play it off with it with an alcohol

With the chords or he's just like put this in your mouth

Yeah, put this in your oh wait put this in your mouth. Put this in your butt. Yeah, I volunteer for beta testing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thanks trash

Just have a rumble pack

Is that from the 1064 different big see big tech product. Okay, so yeah

So you have this orb it scans your iris it gives you a unique identifier that unique identifier is your world ID

Okay, then

What can you do with your world ID? We're gonna get to that but quickly Casey if you want right now

You can sign up to become a community operator of the orbs and you can get one sent to yourself

Today, please tell me crime has done this and we'll have a stream where he scans with those eyes

Trying to do this, but I'm too scared to touch one. Okay, exist in the same room as one. How much are you can sign? Do you need to have that that oh?

That's the best part. Let's get to the next section to world point. It's a cryptocurrency

How do you get it? Let it get it

There's a few ways you can get world coin number one

You can get world coin by scanning your iris that will give you

free world coin

So you can get that deposited into your world ID or associated with your world ID in your world wallet

Okay, another way that you can get world coin is by scanning other people. So

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm gonna go to the next one.

Just start scanning everybody.

This is illegal, right?

No, no, no, no, see, so let me just draw this out.

Oh, it's an affiliate code.

Right, so it's kind of like at the top of this, right?

We put Sam at the top up here, right?

Okay, and then he sends you in orb.

So see how orbs they're round?

They're not triangular.

So that's what makes it not a pyramid.

Orbs game that.

And you sign up people and you get coins and they get coins.

Thus completing each of these and it kind of goes out like this

but there's circles in the middle.

So it's not, it's not a pyramid scheme, okay?

That's how you know, because there's orbs

and orbs are not triangles.

Is there such a thing as ponds AI?

Ponds AI?

That's, I think that's the alt ticker.

Ponds AI?

Yes.

Ponds I tree, they're growing it big time.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Yes, and pruning as well.

Okay, so do you actually do wherever it's legal?

Cause some places not legal to do this, believe it or not.

Get cryptocurrency whenever you do this action.

Obviously, some places that's illegal.

You can't just give people this and have it

go out of the system and blah, blah, blah.

We'll get to that.

There's some stuff going on there.

Obviously all of this happening on the world chain.

They've got their own blockchain built on Ethereum L2.

Also, they call it the super chain system.

Once again, I just have to say, why does everything

have to sound so obviously like a rug pull?

Do they have no one on their team

that thinks of better names than the super chain system?

I don't know.

Have you seen many open AI presentations?

I can guarantee you that if it's the same group of people,

no, they don't.

Good point, good point.

The people who named their models,

the most confusing things ever known to man,

no one knows why different models have the different names.

Okay.

So then what do we have here?

Right?

They have a lot of people.

We actually have some questions from the crowd.

Yes.

Multiple people have expressed a doubt

that this is just like a fake story.

Is this real PJ?

I have fixtures.

I approve coming up as far as I know.

I mean, I saw I watched them do a demo

where they have the orb at like Samultman comes out

on stage and they're demoing orb V3

within the last year.

Cause they built a new one.

What if I just pull the orb out from like

to the side with my camera?

I just like at this three.

Yeah, just like, oh, I'm not.

I will sacrifice myself and get an orb.

We'll see what happens.

Okay.

So then they have an app, right?

The app is how you deal, you get your world ID

so you can verify who you are.

But the app also has a bunch of other stuff on it.

You can, of course, send world coin to other people

and transact with the crypto.

You can, they have these, they're called mini apps.

So their apps inside of their world,

they have a marketplace for apps.

As far as I can tell, every single one is a scam.

When I looked at them, they were all,

they were all win free world, win free world coin.

I'm like, that's, okay, that's crazy, whatever.

Or what are you going to do with it?

Well, you're going to get more world coin.

That's it.

I also do prediction markets on it.

I'm pretty sure which like same thing.

So, okay.

And now they have texting.

So it's very advanced.

You can text each other.

Okay.

I know it's the other person

cause it's a world ID.

Is all crazily or not?

All messages stored forever on the blockchain?

I don't, that's a great question.

I did not, I did not figure out exactly how that part works.

Crazily enough within the past year,

they added the ability to receive your paycheck

within this situation.

Denominated in USDC, right?

Which is the stablecoin associated with US dollars.

Okay.

So that's a common way that crypto bros

interface with what we like to call reality.

Are other companies that are actually doing that?

Like giving paycheck, sir?

Great question trash, no idea.

Probably scammers.

People who can't pay you in real money.

Yes.

Okay.

Can we put paychecks and quotes on this?

Probably should have had to go back and up with that.

Okay.

So then you can also have prediction markets on it.

Very cool.

That's what everybody's doing these days.

Betting with my iris UBI,

PogChamp, the future everyone wanted.

I have my UBI that I had to sell my personal data for.

I'm gonna bet that money.

Okay.

Believe it or not, this is real.

This is real.

What is it?

Group, the people that own Tinder and hinge

and all these other ones.

You can verify yourself with your world ID

to prove that you're a real human

and not a cat-fishing bot that's AI.

Okay.

So that's here right now.

Apparently announced, I don't know.

I've never opened Tinder or hinge.

Fortunately got married before those apps existed,

which is very nice, very happy about that.

But yeah, so they're just like inside of Tinder

and other stuff now.

You can verify that you're a person here.

Okay.

So this is kind of the pitch, right,

is that they're doing this.

Is there a way to click a button that says anyone

who stuck their anus into Sam Altman's orb?

I do not want to see their dating profile,

because I would click that.

I know.

If you fell for World Coin,

I do not want to date you.

It would be the very first button I would push

on this app if it existed.

It's like a self-selecting exclusion policy.

As far as I know, that's not,

but that does seem like a kind of P1 feature

that they should be prioritizing.

Or the other way around would be good too,

like if you want to find a very gullible date

who you can basically just tell whatever you want to

and they'll believe you,

it could be like,

hey, give me one of those World Coin people,

because I got, I want to tell them

about how I graduated from Harvard University

and I'm a Fortune 500 CEO

and I want them to just believe it

without actually looking at any information.

I'm best friends with Sam.

Yeah.

So this is obviously,

that's what they're shooting for,

with world ideas you can go and verify,

like, hey, I have this world app on my phone

and I can verify that I'm at least a person

or something like that and do that.

Okay, obviously,

this is controversial, duh.

Okay, because you're scanning your eyeballs

and giving your data to the guy

who is the craziest data hoarder of all time

and lied to a lot of people before

about he's in it for the love of the game, et cetera.

So it's controversial.

There's some other controversies

that we're gonna get to as we go a little further.

Supposedly, I'm just trying to be fair

in the interest of fairness.

They don't save any of your raw biometric data.

So supposedly after the machines, hash it,

they delete everything and it gets deleted

from the orb itself.

Question there.

Yeah, go ahead.

Of course.

Just a quick one.

This is a very quick one.

One of the big problems with cryptos,

obviously, losing your private key.

What happened if you lose your eyeballs?

Whoa.

Then you have different problems at that point.

Yeah, great.

We also lose your crypto key.

So after prime after you scan your eyeball,

you don't have to go back to the orb every time.

You have it like saved to your phone inside of world app

as like the private key.

But how would you regain it again

if you were lost your eyeballs in the middle and your phone?

I guess you'd be locked out of the world coin.

Better question on the accessibility front.

What about someone who doesn't have eyes?

They aren't people according to Sam Altman.

It's kind of sounds like that way a little bit.

Oh, wait, no, sorry.

Then that's where the anal scan is.

The sphincter.

That's how the sphincter is.

That's why we have developed sphincter scan technology.

Yeah.

We have other options apparently.

Okay.

So, oh my God, trash.

Is this why you're so into B-days?

Because you have to like use the orb won't scan properly.

Like they're going to take a picture, right?

Yeah.

I meant to clean buttholes.

That's what I'll have to do.

Okay.

My own, I agree.

Not anyone else's.

Okay, so just quick.

This is my turn where I'll voice some of my own opinions.

That's why we have the tinfoil hat

just a few of my own quick privacy concerns.

Unlike passwords, you can't change your iris.

So if something ever happens and like,

hey, you get hacked or someone gets a hold of your phone

or other things, I don't understand

what you're supposed to do next, right?

Like it's not like when you leak a password,

you're only password.

At least you could make a new only password, right?

In this scenario, I don't understand how that goes.

The hash is like forever.

So what happens there?

This is one of the big problems.

We're going to get into this a little bit.

Worldworld.org, Tools for Humanity,

just went around to a bunch of places

and basically scanned Casey, get ready for this.

Millions of people, we're going to get

to the exact numbers soon.

And it just seems unlikely to me

that they properly informed everyone

about what they were doing

and what the people were offering in trade

for the 25 to 50 USD

that they were getting in world coin.

That just strikes me as not that likely, okay?

And also, you cannot buy world.org and not be evil.

It's, it has to happen that way.

It's just called nominative determinism.

You can't do anything about it.

It's very orbwellian.

Nice.

And they literally made their last video,

the video where Sam and Alex together are talking

called a new world.

Okay, I have rest my case.

All right, so there we go.

We'll take that off.

We'll continue on.

We'll get a few more facts here.

How can we not subscribe?

Yeah, man.

Guys, I didn't even smash one.

You didn't even like and subscribe to world coin.

But they didn't ask.

Prime, they didn't ask.

They asked.

Rookie mistake.

Rookie mistake, yep.

Speaking of all, anyone out there

who isn't currently subscribed

to this channel, I would highly encourage you

to like and subscribe to the primogen

for all of the latest computing news and commentary

from folks such as us.

And of course, the primogen,

who isn't giving this presentation,

but has been commenting on it.

Continue.

He has been, that's true.

That was a good ad right there.

Yeah, I love that.

Watch this be our most,

we'll go to the analytics

and I'm gonna check how many people subscribed

on each of the videos.

This one will be our highest.

Through the roof, baby.

Through the roof.

To the moon.

That's what we say in the crypto world.

That's crypto.

To the moon.

So people are gonna be rubbing their orbs together

and telling them off of this channel.

Hottle that world coin, okay?

Get an eye tinder.

In the midst of all of this,

tools for humanity has been saying,

and this is Sam Altman's,

like original involvement,

my understanding here is basically,

hey, they do a lot of hand waving here.

They say,

AI's gonna be so productive.

We're gonna have so much money

and everyone's gonna be pouring without jobs.

And world coin will let us do UBI.

I cannot find any particular details

about where the money will come from.

Like his open AI sending them a monthly check

to distribute our governments funding this.

I don't know, they just say,

with world coin,

we'll be able to solve global inequality

and give everybody money.

And so I don't know how world coin anticipates

getting this money or tools for humanity,

getting this money,

but it has been a core thing of what they've been talking

about they will do since the beginning of the orbs

from before they even went public.

So I don't really understand that.

Maybe someone from world.org can talk to trash.

I'm too scared to talk to you.

The trash study, take one for the team.

So I trust trash to get that info out of them.

Okay, what else?

All right, let's go a little history of the company

just so we can start getting a little sense

of the scale of what the company's doing

and what it's been up to lately.

So as I said, series A,

they were like, we need to build an orb.

Yeah, right?

Which does sound a little cool.

They're making proof of personhood

and they're gonna make a coin.

And they made this coin and it's basically like 60%

of the coins are for users,

15% for investors,

10% for the team,

10% for the ecosystem,

something like this.

That doesn't really add up to 100.

So I don't know where the other coins went,

but that's what they said.

UBI.

Yeah, UBI.

Well, they may have asked AI to generate this list.

And at that time, that was about as good as it did

for something to 100, if I remember correctly.

Right, how many ours in Strawberry?

They probably had GPT-3 work on this part.

What does 10% for ecosystem in ops mean in practice?

Like meaning, I think that's funding new orbs,

sending them to people and then giving it

to the people operating orbs.

As they scan new people.

Okay, so it's basically like the 10% of those bonus tokens

are being spent on ecosystem in ops.

Not, we have a 10% pool of tokens

that are used shuffled around as part of the infrastructure.

Right, that's my understanding.

Yes, it's possible.

Do crypto stuff.

So I just want to make sure I understood

what was going on there.

Yeah, that's totally fine.

Understood, yeah.

Very light quotes.

And so before 2023, they were not public,

so they were not trading coins.

Everyone just had to huddle onto their world coins.

You couldn't do any transactions on the chain.

So early rollout, literally their pitches, bro,

bro, it's free crypto, bro, it's free.

You want it, I know you want it.

Bro, bro, bro, you definitely do.

There's nothing sus about this.

You want the crypto.

So like they go to a bunch of lower income areas

across the world and offer them very low dollar amounts

to harvest biometric data that normally they would have to pay.

Way, way, way, way, way, way more for, right?

So then basically like they're just going all over the place.

I loved this quote, you probably can't read this,

but World Coin claims a system could pave the way

for an AI-funded universal basic income,

but it's not clear how.

Even the journalists are like, bro, how are we getting

to UBI from here?

Giving people $50 of coin one time is not UBI.

I'm sorry, can you tell me what the, are these pictures real?

They don't look real.

Casey, these are, so I didn't take the pictures,

but I found real news articles on real news sites.

And I do have some of the links I can send

some of them out later or something.

These are these pictures ran in an actual news story

about your coin.

So using poor, bad conversion rates effectively,

or good conversion rates,

depending on which side of the conversion rate you're on.

Good conversion rates, and they're just using that

as a way to manipulate people who are more in need of money,

to harvest their biometrics,

to prove to people that they have a lot of users,

to thus give the people who invested the 15% I think it was,

to be able to have the investors have coin go up.

Well, to thus ultimately rug at the very end.

So prime, that's also different

because this is the token.

There's the tools for humanity company,

which is a separate thing from the coin.

So they're also own part of the original company, right?

Which is doing its own thing,

it's making apps and could collect fees

or other things like that.

Separately, there's this cryptocurrency, right?

Which they sort of like own and manage and run,

but they have a whole company that the people bought into.

We'll talk a little bit more about later

as we progress through history.

But to be fair, prime, I would interject there

that this is still better treatment

than open AI gave to artists and authors

who got nothing.

They just stole the work directly

and gave them nothing in return.

And literally in their actual USPTO position paper,

which I assume is not part of this particular presentation

because it's open AI in that world coin.

It literally just says like, I don't know,

maybe the government should give them UBI.

At least here they're taking some responsibility

for the UBI.

Open AI was just like, you know what?

I think we should steal everything

and someone else should pay for it as our business model.

Literally just put that in print.

That is what it says in the paper.

Like there is no defense.

There's no defense.

It's just like that's what we think should happen.

And you're like, well, you know, maybe,

maybe, yeah, well, we'll save my comments

on that for later date.

I have a question.

Can I take a picture?

Can I take a picture off the internet of someone

and scan their eyeballs into my work?

No, only if you had your own work.

I had no quality.

Yeah, you had to be able to trick the orbs.

So if you could AI generate in high quality enough eyeball,

theoretically, you could have a high quality AI generation

of an eyeball, tricking people to say you're a human.

It probably wouldn't even have to be a high quality picture

of an eyeball.

It could probably be whatever you,

if you had your own orb and could test it,

you could probably determine how to generate patterns.

It thinks our eyeballs close enough to generate a hash and be done.

Oh, I love it.

I don't know.

I think it does more than take a static picture.

I'm sure it does a bunch of stuff

that is actually technically impressive

because they probably have like a legit thing

that like flashes lights and does other stuff

and your eyes supposed to respond and do things.

But I don't really know.

I did not do a deep dive on exactly how the hardware works.

The virus scans, blah, blah, blah.

But anyways, that's fine.

OK, so just to be clear, from my research,

when I was doing this, this is from real articles

where they actually said this is from real-world coin

things around the world.

This is not AI generated or something else, so.

OK.

So early, early on, they're not doing public roll out yet.

It's roughly 20 countries.

They deploy like 500 orbs and they get almost half a million

people scanned by 2022.

OK, now 2022, you might say that's a while ago.

Oh, yeah, they've been cooking for a while now.

OK, see, and they're still cooking today.

What happens next?

They launch in 2023 with nearly 2 million people scanned.

And this is a direct quote from a news article announcement

about that at the time of 2 million users

in their testing phase.

They've scanned those people.

They have their iris data.

They are world-id out of their mind.

By the end of 2023, 3 million and middle 2024,

almost 7 million people.

OK, 7 million people scanned.

Wait, is this still happening?

Because I knew, Casey, this would be your question.

Sure enough, that's in San Francisco,

the United States of America, San Francisco.

Is that a nose ring?

Wait, is that a real head?

Great point.

I don't know.

Jan 2025, 10 million, 12 million, nearly 18 million people,

just a few weeks ago.

Casey, just a month ago, OK?

And apparently, you can also still

get the app without getting verified.

They have passport ways that you can do your passport

with NFC and some other stuff and still get a world ID

without scanning.

I don't know.

That seems weird to me, too, to give them your passport,

but whatever.

So they have 2 billion opens.

So they track every time you open the app, of course,

because they got to know everything about you.

But that's 17 and a half million is people who did the orb.

They went and got their eyeball scanned for real

and got a world ID across multiple different news reports here.

OK.

How many orbs is that?

Now, how many orbs?

That's a good question.

I don't know how many orbs they have out there.

So this is from the recent orb that just went out and Casey,

as you predicted, there is some AI going on in the system.

I don't know why, but they got the Nvidia Jets

and in that bad boy now, 5x the AI performance and the orbs.

Half to have AI.

They're building it in Texas.

And they're like, I mean, we could go look up.

We could do a deep dive on the hardware, supposedly.

What's out there is open source and they're doing everything there.

But there you go.

So they are making them right now.

Like, as we speak, they're making them Casey.

OK.

Let's go over their money situation throughout that time.

Like I said, 25 million at the beginning, 2022,

a year before they go public, they raised 100 million,

just a casual 100 million.

That was for growth.

So they could go over.

And that's how they're starting to scan millions of people

across the world.

They raise again in 2023 around their public launch

another $115 million, primarily for R&D

and making more orbs.

They got to make more orbs.

Moorbs.

Moorbs.

It's morbid time.

That's all I see.

That's a little bit morbid.

Morbid.

How is their slogan not?

It's urban time.

It's orbit time.

We actually have a company that is almost their thing.

We're going to get to that case, you too, because it gets better.

Of course, it gets better.

OK.

So then in 2025, it wasn't a raise,

but they put world public to be able to sold

to institutional backers.

So a bunch of big institutional people

bought a ton of world coin so that basically

like a lot of these big institutions

own a significant amount of world coin in their wallets.

So that is not equity in tools for humanity.

That's a separate thing.

But they do have a significant stake now in world coin,

which is basically like, I didn't know,

it was almost like a derivative of the company in a way,

because world coins useless if like tools for humanity

doesn't do anything, right?

Go ahead, Brian.

Yep.

So that must mean that they believe

that there will minimally be a pump cycle in the coin.

Because why would anyone buy the coin

and versus like being able to invest into the company?

Exactly, right.

Yes.

So they spend a lot of money on this too.

So like, I mean, on this page, right,

at least basically a quarter of a billion dollars

for equity and then another 130 million dollars

for coin purchases from institutional locations.

Okay?

So that's, they did a lot of money.

A lot of money for the company.

And you can tell the money's still happening.

That's within the last year,

they sold 135 million world coin to people.

Okay?

So today, all right.

I just looked this up today.

Took a screenshot, a million transactions

on the world coin chain, world chain right now.

They got 130K different wallets opening up apparently.

And Casey, you're going to love this.

Razor.

Everybody's favorite place to log in.

I get my mouse plugged into my computer.

And it says, bro, you can't use that.

You got to log in.

So they said, sick.

What would be worse than log in to my razor account?

Get your eyeball scanned by scam open.

You know that Razor is going to be like the first people

to ship off of the open source orb spec.

They're going to have some like, it's going to be all black

with like a green glow.

RGB.

Right.

And you're going to like hold it up to your eye

and it's going to like, you know, be all,

it's going to be all have all it chromed out and stuff.

Yes.

It's literally drink your verification can.

Like a mountain do is what they're asking you to do.

Like, hey, prove that you're a person.

Anyway, so that's real.

Also, if you want to go get scanned Casey, here's one

in San Francisco flag.

Nice.

And also, I just love that these were right next to each other.

A razor store in Orlando.

You can go get your world coin.

Coast to coast.

He's scan.

That's all the way across America right there.

Yep, coast to coast, baby.

There's 32 locations in the US where you can go get your eyeball

scanned.

Fantastic.

I'm sure one of them's in debt.

Or yesterday, I think I got that info.

I screened out of that one yesterday.

Like I said, this is sort of just I mentioned, you can get world ID

credentials somehow with like these NFC enabled, enabled passwords,

not NFT, although that would be sick too, since we're already in the scam world.

But yeah, like apparently your US one, you can do that too.

Are these technically NFTs?

These are non-fungible tokens that is your ID.

That's a great point.

Yeah.

Okay.

So, I just wanted to show this graph.

This is a very funny story of a company associated with this.

This is a company called, oh no, I've literally lost the name here.

Eight co, eight co, it's called eight co.

And it was a packaging e-commerce company that was literally dying.

You can see it right here.

And somehow in September 2025, they announced, yeah, we got $250 million.

They were, the revenue before, this was like, I don't know, $4 million or something like

that.

So, I don't know how they did this pivot, legendary pivot.

They bought an insane amount of world coin.

What?

They, this is, this is their ticker for the last year.

Like this is, this is their actual ticker.

Look at that.

They changed their name to Orbs.

Their ticker is now Orbs.

I'm not joking you.

That's why it's so crazy.

They should say it's Orbentime.

They did it.

They changed their name to Orbs.

And they bought an insane amount of Orb coin.

And then I don't know why.

I don't know how anyone thought this was good.

They don't own any of the company.

They just bought an insane amount of World coin.

I don't know.

I don't know how they got the $250 million or what happened.

But there you go.

So there's that.

In future plans, I'm pretty sure.

Wait a second.

I'm not supposed to show this slide.

I don't think Sam wanted this one public.

One, in case you, Mark of the Beast joke, sorry.

Is it?

You have to at least make one Mark of the Beast joke, right?

You have to make one Mark of the Beast joke.

Also did you like the slide?

I was really proud of the slide.

Anyways.

Okay.

World coin.

This is just for the crypto bros out there.

World coin can never be mainstream because it's an alt coin.

Altman made it.

Anyways.

There you go.

That's the presentation about World coin.

In case you have any questions about it, I don't know that I do have any questions about

it.

It.

In a way, it does sound like exactly if you were like, take everything you know about open

AI.

Yeah.

And they're going the same people are going to be like involved in a cryptocurrency.

What would it look like?

It pretty much is that just from start to finish, right?

Like every last thing was like, yep, that sounds about like what they would do, right?

And it even has the same sort of thing to it, which is like open AI's like starts with

this sort of suggestion that it's going to be like AI that will be open sourced and like

to allow people to have access to it so that it doesn't become controlled by big corporations

and all stuff.

It ends up as like a complete money grubbing like scam based like we're just taking tons

of investment money.

And as we like lose more and more market share to other AI companies, we just kind of like

we'll say whatever and do whatever and put ads in it and you know, who knows, right?

This kind of feels similarly, right?

It's like we started out with this thing of this idea like let's prove that humans are

humans and allow them to have basic universal income or universal basic income at a second

point, right?

And all that stuff.

And then like what's it going to end up as like another cryptocurrency scam, right?

Like it follows the exact same arc of like, oh, it turns out we don't know like it turns

out that just writing stuff down on a piece of paper about what you want to do in the world

so that you feel like a good person is meaningless.

Like you have to actually make something that makes the world better to make the world

better.

You can't just say that that's what you're doing and then feel good about yourself or

you shouldn't.

And like there's a reason that people don't like Sam Altman and open AI.

And it's because what you do, how you present things, the effect that you create on the

actual world is perceived by humans who are actually looking at it.

And they sense what it really is and not what you said it was.

And it's very hard to talk your way out of that, especially if you're like only semi-human

like when you talk, right?

Yeah.

How did you know that they're humans though without a world ID?

That's a very good question.

Good question.

So I feel like this feels a lot like that where you're just like, okay, guys, you did

it twice.

Like this is the same thing again.

And it's probably going to go exactly the same way.

But I guess it remains to be seen.

Like we'll see what happens with World Coin in the coming years.

Can't wait.

Can't wait.

I feel like I haven't heard anything about it.

Really?

I've heard like whispers about it.

I haven't.

The tinder when I saw just a couple of weeks ago, because I knew that was like a, that

was kind of a shocking thing.

But I have, here's my problem is that when the loop, when Sam Altman did looped, he blatantly

lied to people.

I don't know how it didn't.

I don't, I haven't, I literally have no idea how he did not end up in prison for that

one.

Like I, this is, it's like Elizabeth Holmes.

If you lied, but you didn't hurt individuals, instead, you just screwed a company.

So I guess that's okay.

Don't give too many spoilers.

You should do a loop presentation.

I should.

I'm not looping the loop on this.

If you're out of the loop on this one, it's like when you see you go, oh my gosh, he's

just a boy.

Like you literally as a runner.

That's your next presentation.

Okay.

We could do that.

And then so then he goes from that.

Goes into open AI, which is just like very obviously breaking intellectual property.

Even if you don't believe intellectual property is good, you can a minimally safe

way that if someone writes Harry Potter, someone else shouldn't just be able to sell it on

behalf of them.

Be like, I copied and pasted it.

It's mine now.

Right?

Like you shouldn't do that.

That should not exist in some sort of form.

And so we can take the morale out of it and just say it's the law anyway.

It is the law.

It's just illegal.

If you want it to be a different way than change the law, but it is currently seems to

be kind of illegal.

If I were to do that, I would face probably finds if not jail time, like I'm thinking of

that guy.

I forget where he was at that with Nintendo.

He did some sort of what's called emulator slash some sort of like a I forget boot some

sort of some sort of override, whether it was with physical hardware or just an emulator.

And he got like sentenced to prison for stealing.

And so because he was stealing all these things, and so when I look at this, then it's like

open AI.

The next thing it's found on is lies about whether it's being open or not.

And then followed up with just actual sheer like unprecedented amount of ceiling, probably

the purse, he is the biggest stealer of all time.

I'm not sure like I think you could probably say that him or Dario or one of these, one

of these AI people, they have stolen more than anyone else has ever stolen in the universe.

Like they are the number one stealer.

So then to be like, okay, now just, just let me have control of all of your ideas.

It's just like, bro, this is, you have a history of just like the most skamiest things

in the universe.

And then you're going to do this.

This feels, it feels very upsetting.

You know, I was having, I have the discussion like this with someone just recently actually.

And it was prompted by the fact that you've got like a bunch of things now where like

Jensen Huang and Sachin Adela and people like that have come out and sort of like expressed

like dismay or surprise that the public has anti AI sentiment.

What's really interesting about that is it's like, I'm not sure how you behave this way

and then expect otherwise, right?

Like people know they remember that like people were going to like get prosecuted by

the NPA for like sharing songs on the internet.

Yes.

People went to jail, like all last jail for years.

Some people in the tech community remember that Aaron Schwartz, they're being prosecuted

for downloading and making available a scientific publications library.

Okay.

That's a real thing that happened in the world.

And yet somehow, right, we have now all seen that if you are just in control of enough

money and have enough connections, that Reaper never comes knocking at your door.

And that is not really like people are right to feel upset about that and think that that's

something very wrong with structure.

If everyone was just always allowed to do all these things, then maybe it wouldn't feel

like that.

But we know that this is a like very two tiered system and that's really upsetting.

And it should be like they should, if anything, corporations should be held to higher standards

of conduct than individuals because they are larger and more powerful generally.

So when an individual steals something, that's bad.

When a corporation steals something, it's very, very bad, right?

Because they have institutional controls for it.

They have control of a lot of money like of the people who should never be stealing things.

Corporations are number one.

Right.

And everyone else takes more than one person.

It takes collusion.

It takes like it means that there is an entity with a tremendous amount of connections

and power who's doing it, not some random kid who like logged on to Pirate Bay, right?

And so when you look at that, you know, just ethically and morally and you just ask the

question, like, how are people going to feel when they see these behaviors?

It's pretty clear, right?

And so for these people to kind of get up and I don't even think they're pretending.

Like I think somehow they really don't understand that it's shocking to me that they are shocked.

Like I'm like, how do you have so little understanding of humanity and maybe like so little

humanity yourself that you don't understand why people are very upset about that, especially

because a lot of the work you were stealing was made by exactly the kind of people who couldn't

have gotten away with what you did.

The average random artist out there is barely making a living.

And if they did this kind of widespread theft, they would be prosecuted, right?

If they went and stole all the designs for Nvidia's hardware and fabbed them themselves

and said, well, it's better for humanity because I'm making cheaper chips or something,

no one would believe these stories.

And yet, when these companies do it, we're just expected to sit here and go, oh, that's

fine.

It doesn't work that way.

And like I'm really glad that people are upset and I hope they continue to be upset.

That's why I've said many times because this is really not good.

And it's weird to me that like, it's weird to me that they don't understand that, right?

I can speak a little bit to that.

You know, you should be able to understand this.

You're in Seattle or outside of Seattle.

You're a Seattle area.

When you surround yourself with like a homogenous group think, people are always shocked

that there's like some other viewport of life.

Like I remember at Netflix, we had this huge problem with performance.

TV was always really crappy.

And so we forced people like, hey, you got to like use Roku Sugarland, I think was the

name of it.

It was like code name or something.

It was like a low power device.

And people used it.

Like the next day they're like, I will never use that again.

That was the worst experience in the universe.

It's just like, yeah, that's what a lot of people experience.

Like, yeah, let's take a step back and realize that like there's DVD players and all that.

Like, they could not comprehend of a world where you're like, no, you just buy a new TV.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Why don't they just have the newest TV?

I mean, you just go.

It's at the store.

Just buy a new.

They could not get to the store.

Like was there a problem in the store?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, it's very strange, right?

It's like, I just, I don't, I don't know.

I wish I understood it better because I, I don't travel in elite enough circles to like,

go talk to someone like Jensen Huang personally, right?

But I would love to be able to do that.

Like I love to be able to sit down and just go like, say what I just said and say like,

can you explain to me why you don't understand the reaction?

Like, it's one thing also to, to say that you understand the reaction and you're trying

to like explain it away, right?

But they literally, they literally appear like they don't understand why this would be

the case, which is, which is super bizarre, right?

It's also like a different direction.

Yeah.

Well, the rhetoric is also like, guys, yeah, I was going to take your job.

Yes.

You guys don't like this?

And now sit too.

They're like, they're like, we just laid up like Amazon's like, we're laying off these

people.

And even if it had nothing to do with AI, that's often mentioned.

And I assume it's mentioned because they want to convince other people to use AI so

they're trying to say like, we just won't need as many people because we have AI, right?

And you're like, what is wrong with you?

Like, how are you in, like Amazon?

How are you a vendor of AI technology who clearly therefore has a vested interest in

the public thinking that this is a good thing?

And you're saying that in your announcement, what is, like, you, it's so weird.

And like someone has to explain to me, at some point, how are these people this detached

from even understanding reality, not necessarily participating in it?

Like, I realize that they don't have to worry because they themselves can't be affected.

They already have the money.

And it's fine for them.

But...

Crash, what were you going to say?

I was going to say a lot of things, but the conversation keeps making different turns.

Go back to say it.

Go back to say it.

Go back to say it.

Say whatever you want to say.

Crash, let it out.

Let's just say initially, at least this is the classic case of where we create our own

problems.

And then we create tools that fix those problems.

So they kind of have like a infinite money glitch.

They have an infinite money glitch.

Exactly.

So it's like something we all experience ourselves.

So they're building a tool that fixes something that AI caused.

Now there's going to be another something that comes out after this world coin to fix

like, world coin, I don't know, validation or something.

And then it's just going to keep going and going and like to...

It'll fix you, be out.

Yeah.

Exactly.

But the case is point, this elite group, it's unfortunate, but in my eyes, I always see

them as untouchable.

And it's like very obvious if you look at America today, we have this group of people

that you just like, no matter what you do, you can just get away with it.

And it's just like very soul-sucking and disappointing.

And this is like a very much like...

Crash, I don't know what you're talking about.

I'm not a little secret.

What?

Not just America.

I know.

I know.

I'm just giving that.

Isn't that an example of this case?

But we do it bigger and better than other countries.

Number one.

America number one.

Number one.

Freedom units.

Oh my God.

I'm sorry.

I forgot what I was going to say now.

He threw me off.

Sorry.

Sorry.

No, but anyways, like with world coin, yeah, like can you even actually use that anywhere

today?

Like, I don't know.

I'm not saying I'm a crypto investor, but I have some coins and I've never been able

to use it anywhere.

Basically.

My Pokemon cards are way more valuable than crypto, but I'm just curious because we come

up...

And actually, I'm going to tangent here for a second.

I've been seeing on TechTwitter like all these like crypto things that people are

shilling in the tech community, is that what they're just a bad set?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The fact that it's popular right now.

And like this, so like the world coin is kind of like in the same realm and it just

puts like a really bad taste in my mouth and like, oh no, I just...

That's good, trash.

I just really dislike...

Just don't like the orbs.

You won't have a bad taste in your mouth.

I'll be honest, I am interested in the orbs to just like see it.

What?

Trash, when we go to asset...

I'm intrigued.

I'm intrigued to like play with your orbs.

We'll check it out in San Francisco.

Okay.

We'll go check it out.

I'm going to scan myself.

But hold on.

One thing.

So, Amazon had the Palm scanner that came out...

I don't even know.

Do you all know what I'm talking about?

Or you can just put your Palm on the scanner like Whole Foods and then that's how you

check it out.

Or go or whatever.

They're like, workerless one or what?

No, it's just like you have a, if you go to Whole Foods, they have a Palm scanner and

you just play with your...

Yeah.

Yeah.

So like, was there, I don't, I didn't follow it, but I imagine there was some sort of reaction

to that.

I don't know if you all were like aware of any of that.

No, I didn't know that.

You guys didn't know about that?

Because it's too inconvenient to have a credit card?

Yeah.

Because people just don't want to like touch their phones.

Yeah.

You can just walk up and just put your Palm in the walk away.

It's too hard to have a phone these days.

Like that?

I know.

Well, I've done locking.

I know the problem is I need to keep swiping my TikTok feed.

I can't put my phone down and have it do the little pop up for the Apple pay.

So it's like, I gotta keep scrolling.

Look into it.

Look into it.

I'm gonna look into it.

I'm actually curious like what the...

Yeah, it's probably the same.

Which of my close friends use it?

Yeah.

Which of my friends use it?

Yeah, but it seems way weirder when it's like, I mean, okay, whatever one company wants

me to scan my hand, I have an option, but it feels different when it's like, we're

trying to get the whole world registered on this bad boy.

It feels worse.

Yes.

If Amazon was like, hey, for you to be able to leave your house, you should just scan your

hand.

You'd be like, ah, I don't like it.

I don't like it.

To access the internet, you're gonna need to verify with world ID, you're like, oh, boy,

human 35464.

Yeah.

You are real.

Yeah, thank you.

You are real.

Okay, the other thing we didn't talk about it in this, but it is very confusing.

So there's this like, for me, a paradox in world coin, of they keep telling us we don't

save anything about you, so it's completely anonymous, but also we're gonna verify your

identity.

The only thing they can do is verify that some human scanned their eyeball at some point.

It doesn't even, like, it's not gonna tell them that, like, oh, I'm a 31 year old male

who lives in Michigan, like, supposedly they don't have that data, right?

So then how is it, like, actually, you guys understand what I'm saying?

It's like, you're saying, like, they're, they're, they're, are they claiming to be able

to verify more about you other than just you are a person who scanned your iris?

Well, right.

That's what I'm saying.

But it's like, okay.

So then they're saying, oh, this will prevent bot farms.

Oh, what?

So someone's not just gonna go around to some poorer country and scan 10,000 people and

then get by that off of them.

Oh, wait, that's literally world coin strategy.

Like they know that that hack exists.

That's how they got millions of people to sign up.

So how could someone else not just be like, well, I'm gonna get 10,000 people to scan

in.

And then I'll put, I'll take those phones and do run my bot farm off of those.

Maybe you're missing it.

You're missing it.

See, the problem is that you don't understand a very, a very simple idea, which is AI will

solve this.

Yeah.

It's just gonna solve it in like, in a couple of years, it will all be solved, not a big

deal.

Yeah.

Super simple.

Uh, I, I would say, uh, it also doesn't solve the Tinder problem at all because it's

like, you can just post, you can still post whatever picture you want.

That's what I'm saying.

Right.

There's no, it doesn't make it.

It's like it, it's not like it knows that it's actually, you know, me, I can put whatever

I want on there.

Right.

Tinder already has a better thing.

I'm pretty, like all these places, like the bank has stuff, like, I, like I can verify

in my bank.

It's like, take a picture of yourself from like down here, right?

And then it's like, well, that verifies that I'm a person way better than like I stole

someone's phone and I have the world app on, on the phone.

That doesn't make, like that part doesn't, what happens if your phone gets stolen?

I didn't even think about that.

I'd also like to know more about like, I since this is the first I've ever heard of

this.

I know nothing about, you know, what they're, I'm reticent

to use the word tech stack looks like, but I would be interested to know, yeah, how do

they deal with revocation and things like that?

Because when it gets stolen, because it will, when someone's world ID gets stolen, what

is the recovery process look like?

I'm assuming that they have thought about this and I'm assuming that your world ID is

basically some kind of a combination hash of like some kind of unique value plus the

actual retina scan data or something like this.

So that you could change sort of the salt, if you will, it's not really a salt in this

case.

It's sort of more of an initialization, like the IV, you could change the initialization

vector and produce a different world ID, but you have to have some database to know that

someone's prior IV, with a different IV, orbscan was revoked.

Do they have that?

How does that work?

Like, what's the deal with that?

I deal with that deep on that like part of the stack.

I was just trying to get across that like, this is a super hundred millions of dollars

thing that they're like going and literally scanning people.

Oh, I didn't put it in here in a few places around the world, like a few places in Africa

as well.

They banned world coin because people were just like causing chaos.

They were just like thousands of people in line to get it and like all this stuff.

And it was like rampant for all these people doing crazy.

So it was like wild.

It was like disrupting local economies by how you know what I mean.

Once again, I'm sure they were, I'm sure that they would be shocked now to learn that

people were anti-world coin for some reason, that you're like, what, we're just helping

humanity here.

Yeah.

I don't understand all the negative feelings that people have about this retinal anal scanning

device.

I have a question for all of you because most of you are too young, all of you are too

young to know anything about this.

True.

Woody Allen made a movie called Sleeper.

Are you familiar with this movie?

No.

Well, in this movie, there is an orb that looks much like that orb that you showed in

the picture.

And it does a very different thing.

I'll put it to you that way.

And I'll leave it as an exercise to all of you out there to go watch some clips of Woody

Allen's movie Sleeper to find out what the orb is for.

Nice.

I would.

And I guess what I would say is one hint is the orb in Sleeper is kind of the same purpose

as what the orb is for to Sam Altman.

I'll put it to you that way.

Whoa.

Oh.

I have no idea.

Like I thought I was following.

Cheating, bro.

You got to watch the movie.

It's like demolition, man.

You don't have to watch the movie.

Don't the only appears in about like five minutes of the movie.

So I love demolition, man.

I just want to let you know that.

Yeah.

It's a good movie.

The franchise wars.

Yes.

Every part of it.

It's the best movie ever.

Stallone hit firing a pistol while coming out of a helicopter hitting people.

It's like my, it's, it's literally my favorite movie of all time.

Okay.

Pretty dope.

All right.

All right.

Well, now that we hit this.

This was fantastic.

TJ, thank you for the presentation.

Beautiful presentation.

Beautiful.

Thank you.

Oh, I didn't even show it.

What?

Casey.

What?

We have a website.

Oh, yes.

You didn't even show me when I saw you.

Yes.

Casey.

We have a website.

Look at this.

Do.

I know.

Just look at this website for a second.

StandupPod.com.

Check this out.

I'm going there right now.

Also, Casey.

Check out the filtering.

Right now.

AWS.

Look at that.

Do you like it?

Oh, my God.

Yes.

I tried to make it very fast.

Wait.

What's your?

The standup pod.com.

Oh, my God.

This is so good.

I'm so excited.

I'm so excited.

It has direct links to each episode as well.

So you can go to like an inside of each of the episodes.

There's a little arrow on the side.

You can click it.

You can go to go to each of the pages.

If you want, you can listen to Spotify there.

You can download the MP3 directly.

If you're like, I hate Spotify.

That's fine.

Okay.

There's the MP3.

If you guys want it, you can just download it.

If you play it from the site,

does that count for like a Spotify or thing?

If you play through this one.

Yeah.

This is a Spotify embed.

So it should work.

Hypothetic.

I'm so excited.

I cannot tell you how excited I am.

This is fantastic work.

Do you want to know the tech stack for this?

Sure.

But I mean, I'm just happy.

I'm just happy about it.

I'm just happy.

Well, does it feel faster and responsive?

That's what I need to know.

Okay.

I haven't used it.

Oh, Casey.

I forgot.

I left a few Easter eggs for you.

I'm going to spoil these to chat just because I think they're funny.

Number one, you can maximize it.

So that's cool.

You can maximize it.

You can minimize it.

Of course, right?

For no reason.

This is the best one though.

If you close it.

If you close it.

Uh oh.

Nice, dude.

You can get back either.

It's gone.

It's gone.

You have to refresh the page.

Yeah, well, I mean, yeah.

I mean, how could that's it?

You closed it.

If you wanted it, you shouldn't have closed it.

Yeah.

Right?

When I showed this.

Resolve won't fix.

Yeah.

When I showed it to Kaylene, the first thing she did was click the red button.

The top left and I was so happy.

I was like, oh my goodness.

Someone actually discovered my Easter egg in the wild.

I love it.

I love it.

So Casey, the tech stack.

HTML.

HTML.

And CSS.

Nice.

Yeah.

Nice, dude.

Because I take, here's what I do.

I get the RSS feed.

I run a little thing.

I just generate a bunch of static HTML and CSS from that.

And then it goes on Cloudflare for CDN caching to be fast across the whole world for you.

There you go.

That's.

So there you go.

Even this filtering.

This is all just.

This is just in the client.

That's why it's fast.

Small.

It can be cool.

You know who's going to love this?

If others are looking at you like this?

Stephen Wendler, animation grows.

Carson grows.

Carlson grows, will be so happy about this.

That's true.

I mean you didn't use HTML, but.

But I would like to do it.

I did me to make the website fast and 2026.

It's impossible to make a website.

You couldn't say.

Doesn't hit the back end?

So it doesn't need to be HTML.

So there you go.

People are already accept that there's no favicon, classic five 414 four.

Here's a quick question coming.

Yeah.

when it's not a Favicon, I don't know what.

World coin?

Oh no.

It's a world.

Coin.

Is that what you get?

Sam Altman.

Sam Altman, this one, this is so, I'm collecting

world coin every time someone does it

because it loads the world Favicon.

Nice.

Nice.

That's pretty good.

That's pretty good.

That's pretty good.

That's pretty good.

I did not see that one coming.

It's broken on mobile.

Don't go to it on your phone.

You can't afford a computer.

That's weird.

Stick it.

Yeah, we don't want you listening.

If you can't afford a computer, you're not right for it.

Look, our advertisers have standards.

They are not going to advertise some random phone user.

If you're on Android, forget it, dude.

You don't have the kind of money we need for our sponsors.

All right?

Forget it.

This is not for you.

The Apple strap.

We don't want you in our audience.

That's right.

No, dude.

It works just fine.

What are you talking about?

I'm using it right now.

Right now, on my phone.

And look at this.

I checked.

He's on a sidekick.

He's on a sidekick.

Yeah.

You can even play it from right here.

I just played it.

I just played it.

No.

It does work, I think.

I don't know.

I'm pretty sure we're working on the phone,

but I thought it'd be funnier to just say that.

Not to use it.

So there you go, Casey.

I did build that.

I love it, dude.

I want you to know, though.

It's 100% vibe-coded.

Awesome.

Which tool did you use?

5.2 Codex, mostly, with a little bit of composer

for the front end.

So it was inside cursor.

What's composer?

I don't know.

Composer is model.

Composer is model.

It goes zoom-zoo very fast.

Wait, so they have released, they're kind of doing

their own training?

Yeah.

This was Prime's prediction for 2026

is that they'll release a model.

Oh, my God.

Right, but they already had in 2025.

I was saying like a real model.

I didn't realize it's a little fast-quick.

You come on, get out of here.

Oh, that's composer is really good.

Composer is not real.

It's not like 5.2.

That's pretty good.

It's pretty good.

Composer is really good.

It just has a different trade-off,

just like everything in life.

It has trade-offs.

DJ, stop with that trade-off.

OK, let me do an outro.

And then we should probably, I don't know how to do it.

But I just wanted to show Casey.

I have a site for us with permalinks to every episode now, too.

Standuppod.com slash episode slash number.

All right, good job in the links.

All right.

Thank you for watching the standup.

If you want to be able to go and search up any episode,

who's in whatever episode go to the standuppod.com

for being able to fastest, most creamy

experience of a podcast website you've ever had.

Thank you for joining us.

And if you do like this idea of presentations,

it's something we're kind of leaning into.

If you're enjoying it, say yes.

And we will make trash do a presentation.

Trash was also our first presentation,

which was TypeScript to WTF.

And we're going to want him to go again.

Which trash that episode is still crushing it.

That episode is great.

Hot.

Yeah, still to this day.

Trash, get that hoodie off and flex on him.

Yeah, yeah, it's trash.

No, no, no, no, it's a cure.

I only need to see how it's affecting you.

Only for an acceptance.

Only for a person.

There's a lot of kind of just yapping we do

that's just not good for YouTube videos.

If you want the entire experience, it's currently up on Spotify.

We're going to figure out something else.

So check out the link in the description

where we talk and make fun of Trash

for his snack eating habits or something with TJ

or Casey just being super smart and cool.

The RSS.

Well, that you'll have to search for it hard for that one.

But if you find one, let me know.

Yeah, and that's about it.

So hey, thanks for joining us.

The name is Casey Trash Teige Agen.

World coin out.

World coin out.

Loot up the day by coping errors on my screen.

Turn me in a car and live in the dream.