Self-Care for Leaders Who Never Stop

In this episode, Josh and Bob take a reflective detour from their usual leadership banter. They challenge each other with spontaneous “When was the last time…” questions—raw, unscripted, and deeply human.

From vulnerability and ethical courage to the power of self-care and connection, this episode models what it looks like when two seasoned leaders drop the masks and just talk. You’ll hear stories about asking for help, putting your foot in your mouth, saving “baby trees,” and rediscovering what really matters: relationships, rest, and self-awareness.

This is leadership stripped of theater—leaders practicing reflection, not performance.

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