Session 301: Hypnosis and the Words We Use

Hypnosis is everywhere, and neuroscience is finally catching up.

And stay tuned so you can use all of this to become an active superpower in your life.

You just need to know how it works.

Welcome to the vortex of the hypnotic world epicenter Toronto, Canada.

I'm Chris Thompson, and you are watching or maybe listening to the Brain Software Podcast

this is episode 301.

Stay Mike, aka Jeff, Mandel, and I are going to give you the how and the why Hypnosis

changes people's lives for the better, so stay with us.

Brian, Brian, Andy's here, he's come half a thousand miles, we'll see you.

You knew he'd be coming back, didn't you?

Now, but what the off ever happened to that boring old tranquillity that put everybody

to sleep?

Haha, bite me crank mighty, so boys, girls, and sailors.

Let's welcome to the left bank, our own 5,000 year old wizard, the boy with the brain

who can mess with your mind, because he's the Keith Richards of Hypnosis, ladies, and

gentlemen, I bring you Mike Mandel, sorry for a long time, I'm going to cut it for you.

Haha.

Oh man.

Fantastic.

It is 2026, so if you're not keeping up, if you're new to the podcast, we're batching

these in advance of me going to Florida so that we don't have to give you a crappy Zoom

experience podcast, we're doing them studio quality, so we're recording this like literally

the first time we've gotten together in the studio January.

Yeah, I haven't seen you this year, I believe this gets published in March.

Yeah, man.

So it's episode 301, which is crazy, which means, you know, unlike the every hundredth episode

where we have a strong bow cider, no boost today, no boost today, we're going to talk

about hypnosis and science, we're going to, well, you've planned the entire episode,

so I get to just make clever remarks before we do though, what's happening?

Well, it's March.

So that means we're coming up on in two months, the architecture of hypnosis in Toronto,

it will no doubt be freaking close to being sold out if it isn't already.

So if you want to hang out and learn hypnosis, have an amazing experience, it's affordable

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Mike Mandel, hypnosis.com forward slash events, and you'll be able to find it on the events

page.

And it's a great experience.

Other than that, we're just kicking ass into the answer, all right?

I want to ask you a question, though.

It's very interesting.

All right.

Notice how I do not interrupt you giving the URL in English.

Yes.

How long we'd been doing these podcasts?

Twelve years?

No more.

I think we started, we started a podcast.

By the way, my daughter, I mean, it's awesome.

Yeah, it was awesome.

Brandish.

Coffee.

Mixed awesome and coffee.

This awesome coffee mug, it's a Yeti.

So I love it.

I used it every day.

So thank you.

Thank you to my daughter for this, it's fantastic.

We've been doing this podcast since, if you remember, I left my corporate job in 2011

and then went to France, went to France for 10 weeks as you made a retirement inspired

by Tim Ferriss.

Come back and then in 2012, we started the podcast because I thought, oh, it'll be great.

It'll help the Mike Mandel hypnosis brand.

It'll also help you fill your hypnosis classes that you were doing separately, still with

NLP Canada at the time, because they couldn't fill seats with crap.

And that was fine until then we just decided to do it on our own.

So we started this podcast 2012, I'm pretty sure.

So this is going to be 14th year, 14th year, and how many of those years did it take for

me to stop talking when you were doing the 13 and a half.

It wasn't that much, but I don't do it anymore.

I'm finally really.

I think I've been telling you my old wizard, 13 and a half years, yeah, also, say that

I'm looking forward to doing 13 and a half more because I'm feeling, you know, I'm feeling

so frickin' fit and healthy.

It's insane.

Yeah, let's talk about that real quick and then we'll get on to science.

So a few years back, you and I started talking, we were talking about what is the ideal body

composition.

I think I said to you something like, hey, Mike, when you were in your 30s, how much did

you weigh then?

And you told me a number.

Yeah.

And I thought, well, the only difference between then and now is that you've put on more,

well, theoretically, you don't want to be putting on body fat, but what should happen

that you want to have happen is you put on muscle mass, take quite a while to gain muscle

on number.

Dr. Ted Nyman, he would say like, you know, here's me at 50, here's me at 40, I weigh

like, I have three pounds more muscle mass or something and he's been working out every

day for a decade to put on three pounds because it is a struggle unless you're taking drugs

or something.

Creatine.

So yeah, creatine will help, I suppose.

That's natural.

That's fine.

So it's like, okay, well, whatever you weighed in your 30s, add max 10 pounds.

It's unlikely you've put on more than 10 pounds of muscle in that time.

And that's what you should weigh.

And that reframed it for us.

I did the same thing.

I was like, I can't remember what I weighed back then, but I only put on, you know, some

muscle.

Yeah.

Maybe yourself an excuse that says, well, I'm older now and that's why.

No, no, no.

No, no, no, no.

Yeah.

Kick the old guy out of your head.

That's very interesting because just subsequent to that, I was 135 when I was in my 30s,

I was really skinny.

Yeah.

Now, if you put 10 pounds of muscle on that, that'll be like 145, would be 145, wouldn't

be like 145.

Right now I'm 152.4.

Yeah, that's pretty nice.

And I see there you go.

A little under, you know, it's not subcutaneous fat now, you can't pinch it, but just some

of the visceral fat still wants to go.

One better shave than most men in the 30s.

I am.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

And they can all bite my one.

There we go.

All right.

So let's get on to science and hypnosis.

Where do you want to start here?

Well, we've said many times that hypnosis is everywhere and we'll be looking in the next

podcast at how people get stuck on terminology for trans and all these things.

It's quite an interesting discussion, but leading into it, let's say we say hypnosis

is everywhere.

Why?

Because we're not saying that you have to put someone into hypnosis, but you're getting

sleep, you're getting time conversations are hypnotic, television is hypnotic.

We're always experiencing trans to some degree, whether it's the trans we want or not is

the real question.

Yeah.

In fact, the trans as people live, that's one we talked about this in a phenomenal podcast

a while ago that, yeah, Stephen Valinsky wrote, trans as people live.

And the idea is that we're always in some sort of, well, well, we're exhibiting trans

phenomena on and off throughout the day.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're supposed to only get in some nambulous things right like a simple example.

Let's say you have a, oh, I don't know.

Let's say you have a fight with your spouse, some stupid argument, and you now get deeply

ingrained into this argumentative, I'm right, and whatever, whatever the typical man behavior

is in that situation.

Yeah.

And that's the trans phenomena.

You're you are filtering everything, you're intensely focused on a thing, sure.

And you have absolutely have selective attention going on as Alman would say.

So for sure, so it's everywhere.

And then now I don't know how this factors too much into this podcast, it might factor

more into the next one we're going to do.

But there is always this argument of like the definitions of it.

And we'll save it for now.

Yeah.

But you know, you're right.

And as Valinsky points out, I didn't realize what an excellent book that was, it's not

my shelf for a while.

It's really good.

I started reading going, okay, this is frickin phenomenal.

I nearly said something else, but the idea, the concept that you are, we are going

in and out of deep trans is all the time based on the fact that we're exhibiting deep

trans phenomena.

Like when we get amnesia for something we've just done, that is a trans phenomena.

When our hand is hovering in the air, we're forgotten it's there.

Like when I was talking to Dr. Stein, and he had his hands in front, it's like, how

leptin?

What are you doing?

I don't know.

Oh, but there's even other things like classic deep trans phenomena, time distortion

in them as well as amnesia, which is amnesia, but time distortion.

I've said, how many times Chris, you're staying in a bank line up?

Well, you don't have to do that because the banker comes to your house.

Oh, no.

No, no, no, you electronically bank.

Well, yeah.

But if you are in any kind of line, you buy tickets or whatever, gross, he's doing some

gas station.

Oh, wait.

Don't do that anymore.

Shut up.

Yeah.

But the thing is, 20 minutes can feel like a frickin eternity.

Oh, yeah.

And then the other side, you know, the whole point of going out with your best friends.

When you, when September man came to Toronto, Michael C. Anthony came to Toronto.

You were limping because you had sprained your knee and you're walking around like a

stick.

Yes.

And we went, it was your cane.

Yeah.

We went for the library bar.

That evening went to blank.

It did.

Fricking blank.

That's time distortion.

It's, yeah.

You know what?

These days, these days, things that seem to take forever, it could be, it could be a workout

that I know I just don't feel like doing, but I'm, I'm forcing myself to do it.

Right.

Usually it won't be a workout that I'm really enjoying and it's rare that I don't enjoy

the workout, but it could be something like that.

Or some task that I know I have to wait 20 minutes until I can, whatever it is that

I have to do.

And the 20 minutes seems to take, fricking forever.

Right.

So we're having a blast.

Yeah.

So natural time distortion, we need to make sure we do talk about, of course.

No, that's interesting because the whole idea too about negative hallucinations.

And as you know, I, you and I believe that negative and positive hallucinations are

the same thing.

The same thing.

Yeah.

In order to negatively hallucinate something, you have to positively, positively hallucinate

something in place.

And vice versa.

In order to positively, you know, hallucinate your dog, Ollie, the wonder dog sitting

on this desk, I have to negatively hallucinate what is there now.

Yeah.

It's always identical.

But here's the thing.

I remember my dad, I told you he couldn't find his fricking keys.

And I, this before was doing hypnosis, I was baffled by what I saw.

He had his keys in his fricking hand.

And he was going, where are those blood?

Yeah.

And he's holding them.

No, worse.

He was switching the hands to look in his different pockets.

So he's giving himself the instruction that he can't find them, can't see them, whatever.

That's a chance.

And in an argument with your spouse or significant other, because they've looked at you

a certain way, well, insky would say that's posting him hypnotic suggestion and anchor

his post.

Yeah.

And volinsky would say that when a client came in with a problem, he would start with the

trans they already had and then segue them to the one that he wanted to create.

Right.

Very eric.

And he has his own definitions.

We're not going to speak about definitions at all, other than to say, I think we're

going to get to the next episode.

And it is kind of interesting because these people will have these insane arguments about

what is trans, what is hypnosis?

I was like, who freaking cares?

What matters is the results that you get.

And the model that we're applying here is that trans is a natural thing happening all

the time.

The only time that I might differentiate is go, well, I'll call it hypnosis if we're doing

it on purpose to create a trans, modify the trans.

And since this is just the natural way the brain works, if we understand it, we can leverage

it.

And we can help you.

Yes.

It immediately clears all the dross and flots and jets and stupidities, psychological

arguments.

Let's just what?

I just love the words he used.

It's called the English language.

So yeah, I really like my response.

Yeah, really clever.

I'm quite pleased with that.

We won't edit it out.

So anyway, yeah, utilizing this stuff, anyway, recognizing that transes are happening.

And when Linsky says, and here's kind of key to it, when you see that you're exhibiting

these trans.

Did you just call them Linsky?

No, well, Linsky says.

Oh, no.

Okay.

I was saying it's negative hallucination here.

So we're back to the whole thing of boy-looking.

Right.

All right.

It was.

Oh, it's kind of hilarious.

It's kind of hilarious.

It's kind of hilarious.

A therapist.

I think she's moved to Mexico or something.

Lovely woman.

She and I did the hinge.

He said, she said episode on.

I think she moved to San Diego, if I remember correctly, but you're not Toronto and lovely

woman.

Great therapist.

And I was talking about the thing.

I said, I can't find things in the fridge.

She said, you're not looking your boy-looking boy-looking, which could be sexist, but I find

it funny.

I say to my wife, there's no mustard.

Of course there is.

We've got Dijon's right there.

No, there isn't.

I'm looking right now.

It's there.

No, look.

There is no mustard.

You're going to be saying you're actually coming.

You're a boy-looking boy.

You filtered it.

Did you do that?

Yeah.

Usually.

And if I break it down, okay, usually it's because let's say I'm looking for the mustard.

Mustard's a bad example because usually I have a French mustard and it's bright yellow.

Yeah.

Can't frickin' miss it.

And you know what it looks like.

Yellow, die number six.

Let's say I'm looking for a, I don't know, some sort of salad dressing.

And in my mind, the lid is green.

Yeah.

So, good point.

Setting expectation.

I've already started for green now.

Yeah.

I'm not even thinking about it consciously, but I know after the fact when I evaluate it,

what was going wrong, I was thinking green lid.

Yeah.

Oh, and it's not there.

It's not there.

And then of course, you know, I say to my wife something like, where's the frickin' salad

dressing?

Yeah.

Or something stronger.

You know, you idiot.

It's right here.

It could be any version of that.

And that's usually what happens.

Well, yeah.

And again, what's happening?

That's hypnotic.

We are setting our perceptual filters in advance and we are filtering out stuff that

doesn't fit it.

That is frickin' hypnotic again.

And the same, so in the same context, okay.

Let's say now you're in a psychodynamic loop with another person.

You're in a discussion and they're telling you a thing.

You can essentially negatively hallucinate the thing they just said.

I mean, I'm using hallucinate in an auditory set.

Gotcha.

But we've never really actually talked about this.

Have we?

The idea that you can hallucinate what someone said because you just, you already had this

filter of what they're thinking.

They save a thing.

They don't hear you at all because they're just hearing what they think you probably would

have said if their filter was correct.

Yeah.

And they start, you know, yeah.

Oh, there we go.

Oh, this is really good.

And because the language aspect of hypnosis and trance is, is really crucial to understand.

We did a Sunday newsletter on this.

I've drawn some of this from that.

But the whole concept, Chris, is much of hearing.

And my hearing is going as you know, I got my ENT appointment online today.

But my hearing is going.

And interestingly, I've started liberating a lot more than I realized I was because if something

sounds a certain shot of her bastard, I say, shut up, it's liberating, pretending

to talk.

The whole point is this anticipation, what you think they're answering, you'll actually

hear it that way.

Classic example from years ago, the bag of pick those.

Yes.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

And that turned into an actual company name, which is hilarious because you, I said something

else that we will not repeat.

Yeah.

It was, I was speaking, but people can hear it the wrong way.

Well, it was, no, it wasn't, it was just one of these, like, meaningless statements that,

yeah, I mean, people would interpret it and go, oh, that's cool, we've answered it.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

It's a bunch of made up descriptions.

Yeah.

I basically said, I won't say what I said, but I basically just said something to indicate

how stupid a person was in terms of their response.

Somebody who clearly didn't read, couldn't follow instructions, just the usual BS that we

see all the time.

We run into all the freaking times.

People just, like, the capacity of human stupidity really does seem to be definite.

It's more onicity fascinates me.

It's amazing.

It really does.

So I mentioned to you on Voxer, oh, this person must have been, beep, beep, beep, beep,

whatever I said.

And I heard you heard it as sipping, sipping from the back of pic though, from the bag of

pictures.

And created an entire back story, a legend of pic thos and menalayas and creating the

substance that made people, you know, stupid, stills, like, lavender, lavender infused bag

that you drank from it, you would become hopelessly permanently stupid and most people have

been sent back.

And then we started using layers of dissociation, like, have you been dining with menalayas

time?

Oh, that was incredible.

Yeah.

You smell the scent of lavender.

I know.

The air seems redulent with lavender.

Yes.

Stuff like that would become, anyway, we got a lot of really interesting emails of people

using that intervention because it's, as well as, it becomes an intervention because

it's context free.

Nobody knows what the heck you're talking about.

So you say, have you been growing lavender in your backyard by any chance?

And they wonder why you're asking that.

And you think it's hilarious.

Now, let's get on with the language aspect because we process language in our brain.

It goes through a series of transforms.

And this is so hypnotic when you think about it.

The power of words, people don't realize that words aren't as tabney you and Dr.

Dabney you and said, our pharma copia is hypnotist, it's a dictionary, a thosaurus.

Those are the drugs we use because when we deliver hypnotic suggestions, hypnotic commands

that go into the unconscious mind, you're going to create a response in the ways that

we're going to mention here.

And the brain fires neurotransmitters in response.

And that's what's intriguing.

I'm having one of these moments where I'm saying to myself, why didn't I get this?

It's like really get this when you first said it to me because it is so profound and

it's not here.

It's tabney you and I suppose.

Well, the whole part about words are, saying words are drugs is actually such a simple

three word phrase that's so profound to me now from stone since you said that.

Words are drugs.

Just kidding.

If you take a drug, it has a physiological effect, obviously, on the body, which then

will create, of course, emotional effects and other things or could have a neurological

effect.

It's a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

So words, they're just chemical free, but they can have neurological effects, of course,

which, well, mostly neurological, right?

It's all going to get processed that way through for the brain, like that.

Yes.

Like that.

So do you want to read, do you want to like do a super quick recap of what you mentioned

in that sun?

Well, I'm just trying to get to it.

Yeah.

Talk about talking about it.

I'll let you continue.

Talk about it.

I'll continue.

So when we listen to somebody speak, something he and I still have to look up and when I say

he and I mean him, there's a cascade of chemicals and neurological events start happening

in the brain.

Now realize your brain is a self organizing system.

It is the according to Tony Buzan, who was head of Brent Mensa, UK.

It is the most complex structure in the known universe, the human brain.

Yeah.

Think about that.

Your brain is reorganizing itself all the time based on external input and also based

on internal shifts.

And as apparently accessing something like a million neurons per second and creating

new neuronal connections.

Yeah.

And it knows how many it actually is, but it's a metric bot ton.

It's a what?

A metric.

I don't know.

I just made it a metric bot ton.

It's a bot load.

Yeah.

It's a metric button.

So what happens?

Yeah.

A button up your fly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

So here we go.

A lot.

A button up.

So you zip up.

So neurological events start.

This cascade and the brain produces chemicals.

As Richard Bandler said, more powerful than anything you can buy in a drug store.

Yeah.

Legal or otherwise.

So these are micro doses that have profound effects.

Now this is happening faster than conscious thought.

Your conscious mind is lagging behind all these internal shifts that are happening.

So the sound enters your ear, someone speaks, and the auditory nerves create an electrical

current that goes into the, you know, what, so it's a Cousteau electric coupler, basically.

Yeah, basically.

Now the electrochemical response starts.

It's not just electrical, but when the synapses are English pronunciation, the correct one

not synapses, there's the gap.

So you have neurotransmitters in between and some of them are ion pumps or whatever.

So thank this fires now and sends an electrical impulse here.

Yeah.

Chemical cascade that's causing electrical events.

So it's not at the speed of electricity, which, it's not the speed of light either,

but yeah.

Chemical aspect.

Well, basically it is the speed of electricity while it's electrical, but with little brief

chemical pause points, yes, as things progress, yeah, little, little, um, stop transmitter

state.

Yeah, you can think like, think like an IP packet going across the internet.

It's electrical or optical until it hits the next, till it is processor.

Or something has to happen, which is also electrical in nature.

And you get these little, you know, millisecond delays or whatever, but between A to B, it's

speed of light.

And then it's something happens, but does electricity move the speed of light?

No, it doesn't.

Well, yeah, I guess that's good point.

I mean, you want your lightning bolt come down.

Yeah.

Speed of light.

Yeah, yeah.

Depends on what it's running through.

That's right.

Now, but so now, think about what he's just said.

So it's this electrochemical response in the brain.

And as a, a connected aside, there's people who believe that that's what deja vu is.

It's not that you experienced it before you have parallel passageways that are supposed

to fire in you.

And one has maybe a millisecond lag and you experience the same message twice.

Yeah, it's interesting.

There isn't it.

So we got this now.

Now this is routed through the brain or rooted if you're British, which in this case

is incorrect.

Routed sounds better.

So this is routed through the root and you're rooting in the root or rocking in the

root.

Popping in the beater.

Let's stop.

All right.

The signals routed through the brain.

And what happens is your brain is looking for meaning.

Yes.

The signal now is context-driven.

What is the context that you're hearing these words, these sounds that are coming in?

And the first stop is Varnicky's area, which is around here on the left side.

Now, when this happens, this has only one purpose.

It doesn't judge what's being said.

There's no, no emotional charge because it just assigns meaning.

It assigns meaning, which is what the heck does this mean that I'm hearing.

Yeah.

Somebody's trying to chase me or whatever or words, like, you know, the tossing, the

test.

Whatever.

You just touch my hand.

Yeah.

We were back at the hand start to touch the thing.

And I was like, that's OK.

Now, language becomes internal comprehension.

Yeah.

So Varnicky's area turns into comprehension.

I know what this means.

Now it fires further forward to Broca's area, front left, Broca's area now engages a

response to the language.

So what should I say in response?

How should I say it?

What do I use?

Or do I even bother saying it at all?

Yeah.

And Broca's area is also involved in your inner voice is being generated there.

So the stuff you're saying to yourself, all that's going into Broca's area.

Yes.

And it's assigning or it's being generated there at least if it's internal.

It's assigning the purpose to the words.

And so if you're giving yourself hypnotic commands, if nothing works out for me, I will

fail at this.

I'm hypnotic statements that are negative.

The more they're running through Broca's area, the more your brain will pay attention

to them.

And a bunch of us mind will listen to them because repetition is the mother of skill.

And even if it's your internal voice, it will have the identical effect that an external

voice coming in.

So in a sense, the more you practice having a crappy life, the easier it gets, the better

crappy life you're going to have.

Oh, we're at our docks, so when we speak about hypnosis happening all the time, this

is essentially what we mean is that whatever messages you are hearing or giving to yourself

repeating or manifesting in your own freaking life, you're just, you're training yourself

to make it really easy.

You're greasing the shoot, you're greasing the shoot, the actor said to the vision, look,

so the limbic system now activates.

So we've gone varnicus area, they come in through the ear, it's now going through transforms,

goes to varnicus area, now goes to Broca's area to determine the response.

And based on that, it now activates the limbic system, the more primitive part of the brain.

And the limbic system, especially the amygdala, not the amygdala.

Amygdala as we want.

No, no.

We just said it's a heat now.

Okay.

Population, how?

Oh, my goodness.

Yeah.

Anyway, especially the amygdala, your amygdala gets this information and it has only one

question.

Are things safe or dangerous?

That's it.

It's just a check.

Yes.

Is it safe or dangerous?

Or dangerous?

Right.

So this is all, listen my friends.

Listen my friends.

What did I say about that?

This is all about how your brain is assigning meaning, getting an emotional response and

realizing that words carry emotional weight.

So you're engaging powerful emotions with your words a lot of the time.

And it can be emotions like a feeling of threat or a sense that, oh, I'd be long in

this group or I'm feeling rejected.

It could be feelings of love or shame or approval.

But the amygdala activates these instantly because it has to be quick in case there's

a threat.

How is it going to respond?

This is okay.

Let me ask you this.

Now, we can think back to when the civilization wasn't nearly as evolved and, you know, hungry

lion.

Okay.

What does it mean?

Danger.

I'm going to get eaten.

It could be an answer.

It could be as something as simple as you're talking in a social situation and somebody

snickers.

Right.

And so, you know what I mean, and you go, oh, you're, could you're amygdala in that situation

which is clearly not actually physically harmful.

Right.

So I'm trying to differentiate here trying.

I like it.

I like it.

That's between emotional, you know, somebody getting, so you know how people say, oh,

he was triggered.

She was triggered by this or rage baiting people or whatever.

That triggers me.

So if somebody, you know, snickers in a sort of role, isn't that going to trigger the

amygdala in the same way?

Well, I wonder, is it determining danger?

Is it determining irritation?

Because it really appears to be digital.

It's okay.

Is this dangerous or not?

Good.

But the anger that comes out is certainly going to be firing amygdala.

You know, like it's, yeah, it's a great question.

I don't know the answer to that.

Okay.

Yeah, we should.

Yeah.

That would be a fun thing to discuss.

Now, we're on this.

The bottom line with everything we set up to this point is this language creates emotional

response.

Not always.

Some things are just data.

They're deadpan.

If I say it's to 62 days until whatever, there's nothing in that to create a more sidewalk

is six meters long.

Yeah.

Who cares?

Yeah.

No motion there.

Freaking care.

Six meters.

Yeah.

Six or post.

Yeah.

You know, so now let's go back to our friend Freddie Jacqueline.

One of the things he says, and we totally agree, is creating a motion.

Give us a suggestion.

Now, this, he's agreed, absolutely.

His vites on offer wrote about this in the 1950, 1959, I believe, 57, I think 57, 59

doesn't matter.

And Esther Brooks wrote about this in the mid 1940s during World War II.

So what's happening is we have two noted psychologists saying, yeah, this emotions are causing

a response that is in and of itself hypnotic.

Now what we're hearing sure is the opposite side.

We're creating the emotions with our words, right now opens the person up to hypnotic

gestures and ready to probably happening that way all the time, just not on purpose,

right?

Right.

People are having an emotional reaction and then, well, maybe giving themselves a suggestion,

hearing it from somebody and they're reacting in a certain way, but we can do this on purpose.

We can actually use it to defuse situations to help solve people's problems, make their

lives better.

Absolutely.

And that's what it's really all about, guys, because externally heard words and internally

created words, go back to what I just said, are treated the same.

So if you habituate negative self-talk, I'm getting ready to sneeze like Jack, the

sneeze.

I'm going to try that thing.

Let me try that.

Okay.

Oh, yeah.

You touch just gently where you can feel the people.

Oh, here's what you do.

You just say to the other person, I chew.

Oh, you wrecked my sneeze.

That doesn't wreck it for me.

I'll sneeze on you.

All right.

Look, habituated negative self-talk can ruin your life.

It can ruin your life because words program us based on everything you're saying.

If you're saying I'm a failure, it's practicing having a crap life and making it so easy

that you actually do.

Oh, man.

That is more profound than one might originally or initially real.

It's also, you can almost say it's oversimplifying, but it isn't.

It's like when people say, well, everyone in our family is always fat.

They're just saying that there's a, you know, a genetic predisposition to being fat

that cannot be overcome.

They're always fat.

And that's crazy.

Hey, you're making it so easy to actually have that outcome for yourself.

Absolutely.

Even though during times of rationing, like in major wars, obesity does not exist.

It never does.

More about that later.

Yeah.

All right.

Now, brain, listen to this.

The brain, your brain in mind, believes the story it hears most often.

Oh, do you think that might be the case in mainstream media then?

Yeah.

I wonder, Chris, the more whatever the situation is, whether it be something political,

whether it be something about science, let's say, you know, fat is bad for you, cholesterol

as the enemy in those kinds of things or smoking will kill you.

Alcohol, you should have two glasses of wine a day because it's good for your heart,

whatever the message is.

Yeah.

You hear it.

You hear it.

You just tend to believe it without question.

And that's why so many political slogans are very short and punchy.

You just hear it over and over and over.

Oh, you know, how I know this because I follow the science.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, I hear it all the time.

We get fairly often, we'll get a response on, let's say, a Facebook or Instagram ad

that we're running for.

Like right now, we're running an ad for the journey to the castle, which is just a free

download.

Yeah.

So it gets people on our email list.

If you want to check it out, go to micmandelhypnosis.com forward slash castle.

And really simple, right?

If you can spell Mike and Mandel and hypnosis and castle, you can have this.

It's really complicated.

Anyway, it's amazing self hypnosis audio.

I say self hypnosis because all hypnosis is self hypnosis.

It's actually Mike guiding you through one of the most incredible hypnotic journeys.

That people have ever experienced.

It's a production.

It's freaking amazing.

Going with the attitude of setting an expectation and then just listen.

The expectation could be to have a great life, to sleep better, to overcome a difficult

situation, to form a new habit, whatever, I don't care.

But going with that expectation, then listen to the track, right?

Yeah.

Point being, we offer it and it's free.

And people will respond.

It could be that or our dollar trial for the academy, for example, the hypnosis academy.

And people will say something like, well, you know, not all people can be hypnotized.

Or they'll say, I can't be hypnotized.

And sometimes if I'll see that, I'll just write, well, how did you come to believe

that?

Most of the time people will reply.

And the reply will be something like, well, you know, I went to hypnotist before and

he said I was resistant and I just can't be hypnotized.

Like, okay.

So I'm a thorory figure basically convinced you, yeah, authority who couldn't do their

job.

Right.

So you, that you now are the limitation and people will hear this over and over.

They'll go to like one person and not have great experience.

And then they might, might try a YouTube video or something and go, well, that didn't

work.

So they, they repeat the message that they, so this is actually interesting.

I didn't know it was going to go.

It is interesting.

But one person might say a thing.

And if that person in your mind is somebody prestigious or an authority figure that has

greater power, right?

And next time you can say their message like an introject, right?

Yeah.

In your head, over and over and over and that becomes the repetition.

The authority says it wants.

You repeat it over and over.

Totally.

Now that's interesting because you also mentioned, first of all, go to a different hypnotist.

A different hypnotist.

A different hypnotist might be a crap hypnotist as well.

But the thing is, you're going to run into the something person, well, this isn't working

let's try different induction.

This isn't working.

Talk about hard wiring it in for the person.

And when someone says, well, I can't be hypnotized.

My answer is who hypnotized you to believe that?

Exactly.

Yeah.

Actually, you didn't say it.

I did.

Yeah.

Right now, I mean.

Yeah, it's right now.

There you go.

Who hypnotized you to believe that?

Of course.

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Thanks once again.

So I am telling you the super hypnotic story, a man called Deuter.

So a lot of time, there was a stupid moron called Deuter and he was also a dick.

And not just a common garden variety of deck, but the kind that can really mess up things

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If you let him have any access to your life.

For example, he moved in with another moron called editor for a couple of days and he's

still living on his couch three years later.

But Deuter wanted to be a good kind of guy.

He knows low-level criminal family DNA created a few problems for him.

So he decided to do some charity work and showed up outside Tim Horton's with a coffee

can to collect money to build a library.

So literacy would increase in meford and shallow lake and that.

Well, I'm not going to be the one to rip a strip off Deuter because I know that despite

his moronic narcissistic zero common sense, dickishness, he's not all bad.

At least when he remembers the shower more than once a week.

So Deuter standing outside Tim Horton's donuts with his rusty old coffee can, couple

of guys asking what he's doing and he mutters and scratches himself and basically just

asked him to give him some cash for literacy.

But here's a catch.

They ask him what he means.

Of course he can't explain because he's a literate and it goes off the rails faster

than wine and whiskey party at the meford Baptist Church.

And then the cops show up because a bunch of guys standing around shouting and yelling

in that.

And anyway, it's not going to be a library after all.

Well, thanks once again, and good night, the end.

All right, we're back.

So we've got a few more things we want to cover and then we'll wrap up.

Well, University of Maryland, Professor at Lohana Colaca, did work on the whole idea of

words healing or harming and encapsulating it.

I'm not doing justice to her research, which is really, really interesting.

But she talks about how when we're under stress or at least under certain circumstances,

we will accept a noceeble more readily than a pluseble, that the negative emotions

will get in easier than the positive.

And if you have an opportunity to determine if something is a positive message or a negative

one, if you're under stress, you will tend to default to the negative.

That's very interesting.

In much the same way, people will do more to prevent, let's say theft or loss.

Right.

We'll to seek the gain that will, they will do more to prevent someone from ripping them

off 100 bucks.

Then to earning $100 and I wonder if that's the same thing as like we were predisposed

or wired for the negative and to be defensive and to protect and all that kind of stuff

rather than the seek gain.

I think you're right.

And I suppose if you're under stress and a negative message is almost like it's not

my fault.

It's an excuse to just go, oh well, there's a reason this negative thing is happening.

And you have to accept the negative thing in order for it to be real.

And therefore you get the bad.

I'm going to say the same thing again, that is much more profound than many of us have

even realized.

Well, Chris, here's another aspect to this though, encouragement actually improves performance.

Isn't that intriguing?

Yeah.

It actually improves performance.

That's why a parent and career was just saying about that.

It's fantastic when I first started one stage or before I had and my dad was a brilliant

electrical electrical engineer and he would have loved me to be an engineer, but I had

no ability in it, good general science, but none of the skills to be an engineer, the

math skills and so on.

And he said to me, and I'm always remembering him for this, he said, I don't care if you

want to be a garbage collector, son, he said, if you're happy, I'm happy.

Yeah.

And that was such a blanket encourage me to go do whatever I wanted to do.

Yeah, he encouraged you to not pigeonhole yourself into this.

Oh, I must go do some right particular, let's say whatever degree or career that is

as seemed as, you know, professional, yeah, well, yeah, sort of, I suppose, yeah, yeah.

Now, another point.

So encouragement improves performance, realize that, help people, be an encourager.

Mike, you're working hypnotically.

He's going to say something dickish.

No, no, no, no, it's not dickish at all.

Even my dog, Ollie, will respond to encouragement.

He could be sitting at the foot of the couch and I could see the way he's looking, he's thinking

of jumping up on it.

And I say, come on up.

And I'm reading the room.

Yeah.

Right?

No, but he does.

Yeah, that's brilliant.

Yeah, Ollie is a wonder dog.

And to this, I add the point, speak with precision to people, precision is my word this

year because if you talk in fluff, you're giving people a wide variety of things to hang

on to.

That's very hypnotic, but it can be just sort of freeform.

When you speak precisely, you're drilling the message into their mind much, much better.

A lot of conversations go off the rails because people do not speak with precision.

Okay.

I'm going to say some.

And anyone too much, but I can tell when someone's going to become a good hypnotist or,

oh, not necessarily that they're definitely going to become a good hypnotist.

They have to put in the way.

But I can tell when they're already limiting themselves because of the way that they communicate

on email.

If they can't even construct a coherent sentence, and it just seems like garbled, goopy nonsense.

Right.

I really wonder if you need to learn the basic structure of language.

And I'm not, I'm not speaking to people who are like English as a sect language.

No, no, no.

I mean, people who, let's say are native English swankers, English is their only language.

And the way that they email is just so polite, you read them to me and go, okay, you need

to fix your basic understanding of how to structure thoughts in words before you learn hypnosis,

for sure.

And if you jump to hypnosis, it feels like what's the word that we were, let's say paving

a road on top of a sandy beach, you know, you're just going to crumble underneath.

That's very good.

And of course, because in English, the sequencing matters to a great degree.

And that's why German is interesting for non-German speakers when we start learning it

because everything is in different order.

You know what I mean?

I've been joking about.

I also am from a Lincolnshire always being born, you know, eating high-much chips and fish

and riding bikinily lined up chap.

Now, in Japanese, the sequencing doesn't matter.

Isn't that interesting?

It doesn't matter at all.

Does that mean in Japanese, you can essentially say it in an infinite number of, almost

an infinite number.

You can say it in many different ways and it'll still be correct.

Pretty much.

Okay, I'm going to have to check my sister-in-law's Japanese or ask her this.

Yeah, say to her, we'll touch you on the hunger gussets.

I don't know how to say that.

But that's it.

Very interesting.

Yeah.

Now, let's just say this.

Let's add a couple of points here.

Remember, your beliefs are hypnotic because your beliefs are creating what we call reality

tunnels.

This is, and Robert Anton Wilson.

You're creating a reality tunnel based on a lot of permissions and, I'm going to say

shout outs, permissions and non-promissions that you allow to happen.

You're permitting certain information to get in, but you're filtering other information

out because of your beliefs.

When you stack a bunch of these beliefs together, you get a reality tunnel, which is profound.

So you will delete, throw out completely stuff that does not fit.

The number of times I've said to one particular person, read what I actually wrote, read the

actual words.

You haven't answered that direct question because the person will spill off, spin off in

the different directions.

Yeah.

You have to be very, very precise because the reality tunnels will block it if it doesn't

do.

This is why.

You know, and things like eye message or whatever the Android equivalent these days is,

if you ask somebody a question and a text message and they don't answer it and instead

go off in a nonsense line, you can go back to your original message, long press it and

hit reply and like reply to yourself and send them a, can you please answer this now?

You know, you do that with me all the time.

No, not to you.

Well, maybe it's great, but it's an easy way because there's like a paper trail now,

metaphorically of, hey, I actually wrote this.

You did not address it.

You are a trying and failing to change the topic.

That's nice.

Very good.

I can't stand just random topic.

I say topic change detected.

Yeah.

It's that thing, the politician thing, never answer the question they ask you.

Answer the question you wish they had asked you.

Yeah.

You know what I would say to that politician?

Thanks, Troy Johnson, and then repeat the question.

Hey, what did I say?

Bite my one.

Bite my freaking one.

Well, let me give you a summary of a couple of sentences here and we're going to

shut her down.

We're going to shut her down.

So we are rewriting our internal history every time we access a memory.

We're rewriting our emotions every time words come in.

This change is going on internally.

And as Walensky says, when we step back from it and see ourself, the trans breaks even

temporarily.

We have to see ourselves without our transes and dissociating from it.

Well, let me give you a follow up.

I know you can jump in with your face.

Yeah, I will.

I'll wait.

I calibrate.

Hypnosis lets us make shifts internally, intentionally, when we understand it.

Because we're always causing an internal cascade of hormones, neurons firing, new connections

being created all the time.

It's all hypnosis.

It's how our brains work.

Okay.

So in episode 302, is it fair to say that we're going to actually speak more to the problem

of the definition of hypnosis and trans and argument, stupid arguments that people get

into versus using models and using the idea that the test of a model is it's useless.

Usefulness.

And so if you listened to this and you kind of thought, well, I thought you guys were

going to talk more about hypnosis and I actually use hypnosis to help people and tie

it to neuroscience and all that stuff.

Well, we've given you quite a bit of the basic neuroscience stuff that Mike explained

in terms of how signals go through the ear and into the brain, et cetera.

But once you, I think once you listen to 302 and we put together this conversation around

definitions and models, I think it's all going to come to make sense.

Make sense?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I had to help you there.

Thank you.

No, but that's fantastic.

I was going to say something that I knew you would just make a crass joke about.

No, I'm not crass.

I'm not crass.

And next week, let's just add, next podcast, not next week, 302, here's a pre-frame.

Be a communicator.

Not a fact collector.

Oh, yeah.

That's a great.

Brilliant.

All right.

So thanks, everybody.

This has been episode 301 of the Brain Software Podcast coming at you from Toronto, Canada,

or close to Toronto.

Don't give it.

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Very good.

Well put.

I just want to clarify because there is ambiguity there.

Yes, you get seven day access to our full certification course.

You don't get certified in seven days.

No, you don't.

That's not us.

It's the same course, the certification opens after 30 days if you're on the monthly

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But you get emails.

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It's all clearly explained on the page anyway.

So you, you know, if you say you said, I'm going to, did you read the page?

Like read your all adults, you have the final closing remark, act like adults, solve your

own problems.

I can't tell you how many people will say, oh, we're doing an event at this time.

What's that my time zone?

Learn how to use Google or chat GBT or any of the other tools out there that can help

you solve your problems.

If you need it spoon fed to you at that level, you're not yet a real adult.

That's what I'm going to tell you.

Wow.

Harsh.

All right.

Harsh but true.

All right.

Thanks once again.

And good night.