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He was bow

Wow that prime time maybe not a crash on Betty Rubble. I honestly it's all after the segment

I did and we went to commercial break had no idea that Jonathan coachman was black he caught them the game last night

Although they won the game

You're listening to stucatsu company. I love this man. He's one of the best broadcasters we have

He is the voice of the final four and look what happens to i and eagle

The rare sweet 16 before the final four on his lap

Yes

This is the greatest regional I've ever seen i and this is insane what you're about to call yeah

It does feel like that stucatsu and obviously you've been following this thing forever

I've been doing the tournament for 29 years. We've had great regionals

Certainly we've had tremendous storylines. We've had incredible games

But prior to this one. I don't know if I've ever felt the build up

Quite like this this easily could have been the final four. Yes, and nobody would have even batten and eyelash

Right

So that's a pretty clear indicator that there are behemoths at play here. Yes

That's a great point. It's just about any year if this was the final four yeah

Everyone would be thrilled with this being the final four right it's crazy

Yeah, I think the St. John's part of it is the one that right spin a while

It's been a while

But for for those of a certain age

There is a romanticism

Regarding this because of depending about where you grew up depending upon you who you were a fan of depending upon if you were

Just a big east basketball head and it's ingrained in you that

That you have good thoughts when you think of St. John's it's been a long time. It's been

27 years for for this program to be on this stage, but

It just feels right with Rick Patino at the helm that this is the time for it to happen

Did the committee do St. John's wrong and and what I mean by that is just to get to the final four

Patino will have beaten bill self and Kansas will have to beat Duke and then if he gets past Duke

We'll have to face the winner of Michigan State and you cut. Yeah, you can make the case certainly that they were

They were better than what their seating was. I don't

I don't know if there were opinions already made and formed before the big east

Tournament where they just plowed through

They did not trail at all in the big east tournament. They were clearly better than every other team at this point in time in the big east now

We might end up seeing St. John's Yukon again and they'll be able to settle it on the court

But I thought there were going to be a foreseed. I did in the grand scheme

It's not even just the seed you are

It's where you're placed and the east region

Is completely stacked and we knew that prior and we still feel the same way even after two rounds

I and do you like today's college basketball?

I like what the byproduct has been for the NCAA tournament. I believe that we're getting high level games

I believe we're getting

Incredibly competitive action and while I know that we don't have the traditional Cinderella that we always

dreamed of

We have maybe some ancillary Cinderella that Nebraska and Iowa two teams that

Nobody leading up to the season would have predicted would be a part of this thing

Based on where they were in Nebraska's never won an NCAA tournament game before this year and Iowa had a guy that was coaching division

Two as recently as two years ago and has had this meteoric rise been McCollum as a head coach in in a major conference

So I think you get a little taste of it, but it's not the George Mason

It's not the Loyola Chicago. It's not the VCU

It's it's not Florida Atlantic

But I do think the games have been better. Yeah, and I felt that last year that the final four we got last year

Four number one seeds, right, which is not common as we know and

tremendous games

Those games were drag them out

Fight to the finish games all three of them. I thought

Duke and Houston was a serious battle. I thought Florida Auburn was fantastic

And then the national championship game came down to one final possession where Houston doesn't even get a shot off

Which is odd in it of itself. I remember

A national championship game down to one possession where the team doesn't even get a feel goal attempt off

So I just think that maybe we have to retrain our brain a little bit and for now this is the new normal

It's hard and I asked that question because we live in a world where Indiana dominates college football and Nebraska

Maybe the team that dominates college basketball. It's crazy

That that seems very backward-ass

I want to agree that is I can't get used to it. I know you're telling me to reach brain my brain

But I don't want to yeah, not not something in my lifetime

I thought that we would be talking about but it it does go to show you two things to me more than anything else

Obviously money talks we knew that yeah, that's that's never been a debate

But your leadership and the type of culture that that you set forth what we've seen with Nebraska and Fred Hoyberg

It's taken form. It's taken hold. He had this visual and it's been building. It's been building remember two years ago

They went on a run in the Big Ten tournament

They they opened some eyes around the country that maybe they could be a factor and then took a step back last year

Well, they're back with the vengeance and it just shows that a really solid leader and

Building a team and a culture can work hurt sitting that he enough said

I mean this guy came in with confidence. He's not the first to have bravado

But he's among the first to really back it up in short order

And of the of the three one-seeds left Michigan, Arizona, and Duke it feels like Duke with crazy enough

As the one being overlooked the most

What is Patrick Gumbah due to Duke's ceiling now that he's back?

I thought he changed everything from round one to round two all of the confidence that

Siena built in the first round getting towards the ram not feeling like there was a real

hurdle for them on the defensive end Duke is known as a great defensive team

I didn't feel that in the first half against Siena that team just gained confidence

And I thought a lot of it was based on the fact that you didn't have the presence of Gumbah a true shop blocker

And a true presence to throw them off their game second half Duke

Obviously they they found something and they regained their confidence. They looked

Shell shopped. I mean, I'm telling you from the court side of you

Looking into their eyes in that first half

It was truly a moment where I thought personally as we had halftime they could get clipped

Like they just didn't have the look of a number one overall seed of a champion

And then they rally in in the second half second round completely different story Gumbah was a plus

20 in

13 minutes of action. Yeah, that's the kind of impact that he had. I thought

What I noticed was TCU all of those shots that were going down in the first round against Ohio state

What punch was doing around the rim? He couldn't do any of it any of it

So I just think he's a he's a huge factor the foster injury though in a game like this again St. John's

could be

very serious because

I just think St. John's is going to

They're gonna sick the dogs on them. They're gonna pick up full court. They're gonna harass them

They're gonna challenge Duke to just get the ball across the line to get into their offense and

I know this is hard to say

But I think they might actually need more right now from

From Cameron Booser than they got in the first two rounds, which was a lot

But in this game in particular he's gonna have to handle the ball quite a bit

That's an additional responsibility that I'm not sure they expected at this stage of the tournament

It's fairly amazing that Rick Patino at least for me growing up one of the most polarizing figures anywhere in sports

And now he's beloved every

Taylor loves them every team would want rip it through to be their head coach

It's crazy what happened there the rules change I guess yeah, you know what I think

Obviously different people handle things at different stages of their life in different ways

I just think there's a real

Joy that's coming through

How he's conducting himself and that's not to say he didn't enjoy winning prior, but he did it with a more serious tone

His press conferences were were often pretty direct and now you're seeing the human being behind the coach

And that could be AIDS that could be experienced that could be just based on

Where he is in his life and this particular team, but I've just noticed his

His comportment is different. He's enjoying the hell out of this. Yes. That goes a long way. Yeah, it really does

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You

As someone who graduated from syracuse university and we'll get to that

In just a second because we did some blind rankings

With Danny Parkins and well, well, we'll give you the results here

Adjusted made it but are you a fan of the hire of Jerry McNamara as your new head coach?

Yeah, I thought syracuse was going to deputize me at halftime of that

Sianna Duke game and just said hey just go up to Jerry and tell him the gig is his

On behalf of orange nation. Yeah, just represent all of us and get the deal done

I said well actually I have to urinate can I do that first because that's what I do at halftime

No, I think it's a it's a home run hire. It's what they need right now

Look, they also need the resources and the support and as we know currently in college basketball. It's a money game

but

It's not just how much money you have as we've seen there are a lot of programs that had

Big year spending and didn't have the success that they were hoping for

It is chemistry. It is connectivity with your your guys and I do think

He provides a very strong voice for anyone that's never talked to Jerry McNamara or spend any time with him

He's got a lot of confidence see at confidence as a player. He's got confidence as a coach

I think he believes in how he messages and at this juncture

this

Fanbase needed something like this to get behind would they have been fine with someone outside the family

I think they probably would have if it meant winning

Yeah, but I think this is an added bonus that he is a true blue Syracuse guy with a national championship

And a highlight reel as a player that you can put on a loop

And he's already shown that he's he's got the makings of a outstanding head coach

Were you surprised that Carolina got rid of you for Davis? I was I was obviously we did that game in greenville and

I thought to myself man

How different would this look with Caleb Wilson in the lineup one of the best players in the country

Probably a top three pick may even be the number one pick depending upon who's making that selection

I think if you take the best player off of every roster in college basketball

It's obviously very challenging to win and win consistently

If they win that game I always find this interesting in the the sliding doors world that we live in

If they win that game if they don't go to OT if they handle their business and

Hold off VCU and then lose in the second round and a tight one against Illinois right

Is there a change or no probably not I will tell you this if he gets to the sweet 16 with Caleb Wilson

There is no change at all. He's no no doubt right no doubt on my mind

If they advance through this tournament with Caleb Wilson now that's not a guarantee Illinois tough

They're big their physical right to me. They they had one of the the best opening weekends of this tournament

How they looked it's based on a number of factors their first round match up was with Penn

They just over match them and then the second round

They got this team that was an upstart squad that didn't see themselves as a Cinderella

But certainly pulled off something in that first round a 19 point comeback against UNC

I

Think that there was something simmering clearly at UNC previously that just percolated to the point where

They they couldn't dismiss it and they ended up dismissing Hubert in the process

It's always weird when a player who was great at a school ends up becoming a head coach of that school and then

Has to move on and now what's the relationship Patrick Ewing Georgetown and

Chris Mullen St. John's there there are a bunch of these examples where red lottery Syracuse

You don't know now what that dynamic is going to be for the next five 10 15 20 years

Does Hubert ever walk on that campus again?

Or does he get over at some point and have success somewhere else and and just say all right this happened for a reason

It's tricky because you know they wanted to celebrate Hubert Davis's career and Hubert's like no

I'm not done coaching. I still want to be the coach at North Carolina

Yep, I don't want to celebrate my career

So I don't know if he walks back on the campus again

It's uh, it's gonna be interesting

But it's also another sign of how much the times have changed where you have potentially the Kansas job opening up

The Carolina job is open and Syracuse just filled their job like those three jobs used to never come open

I and it's crazy. Yeah, really. Yeah, don't know they they had lifers those were lifers at the Jim Bayheim was there forever

As we know

Prior that with Kansas Roy Williams had the long stint followed by Bill self and then

UNC had to tap dance a little bit in the post Dean Smith era with Guthriege and

With Dirty Roy Williams obviously in there as well. I just I think

Things are changing in the college basketball landscape and

You know, it's funny

Stugots when you broke into the industry sports radio was playing

Such a role in a lot of these decisions because it was the first time

That decision-makers could put an outlet on

And literally here from their fan base. It was just a small

portion of their fan base

But you get in a car and you turn on sports radio you would hear a talk show host in New York

Of course Mike in the mad dog

but callers checking in and giving their opinion and

I do think it affected decision-makers opinions on certain things now

Let's just move on to modern day

with Twitter with

Individual podcasts with reddit with message boards

You now have outlets that you could go to as an ed or as a gm

And you can get a sense of where the wind is blowing again fair unfair. Right. It's a whole different argument

But it's real yes, and it's happening. Yeah, Mike and the mad dog got piazza to the meds, didn't they?

Yes, if yes, my believe that

Yeah, it's you know, it's so funny

It's like one of those where were you moments and we do this all of us as sports fans. I think

Sometimes people that aren't sports fans don't understand

How someone could have ridiculous recall of dates and moments and what was happening in their life at the time

I think at sports fans we tend to naturally catalog

Moments in our brain of what you were doing

What was happening

How did it affect other aspects of your life? So the Mike piazza thing

I was on vacation with my family right at Disney. Yes

And walking around Disney like dealing with the lines the heat

You know, I could only do this in the summer because of my schedule

So I only took my kids to to Disney when it was a hundred seven degrees

Right, this was tortured yourself

Complete and utter tore we did it four times and on the fourth one my wife and I looked at each other and we said

Never again. I guess we we were defeated as human beings. Yeah, so

That particular day my son was a met's fan and

was young

And I remember getting the news at Disney and he was sweating his balls off as a little kid

wearing a tank top or an NBA jersey and I said the met's got Mike piazza

No way it affected his life. I guarantee you if you ask Noah right now

Where were you when the met's got Mike piazza? He would remember and you're right

Mike Mike on the med dog

very much

Went with the narrative that they made it happen and maybe they did yes

I mean listen

I remember where I was when late or hit the shot against me. Oh, yeah

I'm a piazza

Get Noah on the show, please because I want to

When this happens, I'm glad you brought him up because I'm wondering can you explain the difference for you emotionally

You calling a game as opposed to listening to your son

Call the game because I I'm guessing it feels better listening to your son do it

Yeah, you're you're right. Yeah, it's funny when

I I have people come up to me and and they're saying something really nice

And I take it as such but they say hey, I heard your son

And man

He might end up being better than you so it's like this weird back-handed compliment right

But it's a full-on compliment

I want him to be better of course we want our children to do better than us so

Yeah, a lot of pride and you know my wife and I

There are moments watching a game where we want a hundred percent look at one another and and just think

How did this happen?

This little kid that that now

has

The ability to go on the air and show no signs of nervousness or anxiety and just do is

Thing and do it with a sense of passion and a sense of purpose

So it it's been this whole other chapter that has been unexpected

Completely, but I do feel for my wife who really was not a huge sports fan before all of this started

Yeah, she went through 30 years of having to watch my games. I didn't make her but you know she did

Just just a few of a part of it. Yes, and now this whole other

Avenue in which she has to watch games or listen to games involving my son, right? I think she consumes more NBA

Than any person in her friend group

I could safely tell you 20 years doing the show with love it's hard my wife never listened

Not

No, she didn't want to she was

Yeah, yeah, she's probably better still gots. Yeah, you'll be honest with you. Yeah, the stew gots in her is not strong

No, no, it's not

Um, so it's interesting so you take a great deal of pride because yes, it's great watching you want your kids to be a better version of yourself

Um, do you find it hard not to give them pointers from time to time and does he do does he receive them well?

No, no, I don't find it hard at all my my pointers are usually mixed in

With something else. It's never a text after a game. Hey, here's 11 things that I really think you need to improve

I'm not a douchebag person for me

And then second I just don't parent that way. I never parented that way

It's usually in the form of some other conversation and if something strikes me in the moment

That I think could help him

I absolutely will share with him

But I also have to let him do his own thing and do it his way

But I think he would tell you that our relationship

Has obviously had this new spin to it because we do the same job

But at the core it's still

What it always was and and the broadcasting part has just been and add on it's not replaced something else

Has he gained enough confidence here where perhaps from time to time he'll reach out to dad and give dad some pointers

No, that would not be well accepted by any stretch. No, you got to know your place in life. Yes

You'll ground them even at this age you'll ground them. I can ground them. That's that's not a problem

I still have authority. That's not an issue. No, if he if he ever noticed something

I would want him to tell me so

It is a two-way street and that's how it should be

Is Bill Raftry because for me he is I don't want to say he's underrated

He just kind of flies under the radar just a little bit

But I feel like he's the best sports analyst we have going you agree?

I think he might be the best of all time

Charlie I'm joking. He's so good in terms of the mix that you're looking for as a viewer

Of course you want analysis you want to hear someone's knowledge and preparation

And I think Bill probably hasn't gotten enough credit for that part of it his prowess as an analyst is legit

He coached in the Big East. He was a headman for Seaton all he's been around basketball his whole life

He was a highly accomplished player which he downplays

But he was at one point he was the all-time leading scorer in the state of New Jersey

As a high school player for many years

It only recently went down

Went to LaSalle was a tremendous player at LaSalle and only because at the time the NBA

Didn't have a lot of teams

He ended up getting cut by the New York Knicks, but in any kind of expanded format

He's an NBA player and would have played in the league. So that changes your persona a bit

I think he leaned into the other side which was

Very comfortable for him self-deprecation yes and using that to his advantage because sometimes people will underestimate you

When you approach life that way the part that that sets him

To a category by himself is

His feel for the moment and when it's time to really

Punch with something that is memorable and grabs your attention and fits

The the event yes the moment he knows how to caption and I can tell you I've worked for them

You know we're talking about the better part of 30 years

Which is hard for me to wrap my brain around right? It really is off the cuff

This is not a guy that's got a yellow legal pad with a bunch of

Sayings on it. He just can intuitively

Hit the right moment with the right words and

It's incredibly memorable and it's also

It's highly

It's highly relatable. Yes, it really feels like someone you'd be sitting on the couch with watching the game

Right that would that would say that and would crack you up and for you calling the game

It has to be such a comfort to know he's always got it whenever you need he always has it for you

You know he does. Yes, and I've said this before but it's worth reiterating

You know amidst all of these

Things that I've been incredibly fortunate to be a part of in my broadcasting career

The one thing that I know

If not for this

None of it would would have happened and that was getting paired with him. Yes in

1995

On New Jersey Nets broadcast because just being around him

taught me

Things that I never would have known in how to do the job how to approach the job

how to

Blur the line between your personality and the persona that you're putting on the air how to do it with a sense of fun

And levity but also the preparedness and not taking any broadcast for granted

We did some bad

Nets teams. Yes, really bad Nets teams. Yes, and I can tell you even though we may have not had many viewers

Bill and I still treated it like it was going

Across the globe, right? We we always felt like it mattered and I think that was something that was 100% planted in my head

Because of him and because of his approach

Uh, we'll get you out here in just a second and we appreciate you do with this

I did want to thank you. I've been meaning to thank you for some time now

I've been railing against this forever when you come back into a game like a game in Miami for example

They come back the games being played in Miami, get orders yet. They pan in through the Cleveland. They're on South Beach

Which is 45 minutes away from really actual game and I was watching you

I think it was a jet game. Yes, it was yes, it took us through the shithole that is New Jersey

Because you two are upset. Hey, don't put us in New York City

We're in New Jersey and you took us through New Jersey and I wanted to thank you for doing that

Yeah, no, that means a lot's to got that

That one I think resonated I think there's a certain kind of audience

That that thinks so who cares? Whatever show me anything. I want to see the game

Yeah, but then there's another faction and I would be included in that thank you where

I am not happy if you're showing something from a different area but claiming

It's within that area

You're misleading me. Yes. How can I trust you?

Your credibility is shot. We had a thing and I'll do this sometimes in a passive aggressive way right

With our crew what we have a tremendous crew and and everybody that that works on the show

I I truly have the ultimate respect for in every single role they care it matters

They take it seriously, but they do it with a smile and the right attitude

But we were in Chicago doing the big 10 championship right and the the final on Sunday

The weather was brutal

brutal

It was heavy rain wind there was the chance of snow and

We're coming back from break and they're going to show me the shot that they're using that I'll do the next set of billboards over right and I said to them

I go

Is that a live shot they go no, no, no, I go

It's really nice out right now. Is that what you're telling me like no, it is and we'll get you another shot

Like don't mislead the public. Yes. Yes. Don't show me a picture from Chicago eight years ago

Right try to sell it as

This is what's happening right now in yes in the windy city. I don't buy it

You're not alone McDonough's with us by the way because when he was doing the hockey and it was in sunrise Florida

They would pan in through south beach and for Florida. They'll beach and shones like hey. We're out by a mall

Like we're not yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever been to Jacksonville? Yeah, it's ever been a Jacksonville horse. Yes

So when I got the the NFL on CBS job in in 1998 I had never been to Jacksonville before

So I go to Jacksonville and I'm curious. I said well, you know, where do you hang with like? Oh, I gotta go to the landing

All right really

So you go to the landing and it's you know basically a circle cement with some restaurants and some shops

And that's it

Nothing beyond that now. It's on the water. So that part was nice. Right. It's a place to drink right place to drink

Basically, I think there was like a fake hooters there. Yeah, so

Ha ha ha ha

At some point about I don't know four years ago

They got rid of the landing. It just went away. Yes, the shops went away the restaurants went away

I don't know what they're doing at the landing, but it doesn't exist right and I'm watching a game two years ago

And they have a shot of the landing in Jacksonville

I

Ha ha ha ha it doesn't fucking exist close down it's closed

What are we doing?

I'm glad I'm not alone. Thank you

All right, we'll get you out of here Danny Parkings was on with us yesterday

We did blind rankings of uh

Syracuse alum what do we do Mikey keep three cut five keep three cut five of Syracuse broadcasters all time

So oh, no, well Mikey's just gonna recap it for you. Yeah, I want to hear it. Yeah, go. Okay

So they cut and I say they because I was just now you're looking here

No, you know, he was he was the game show host. Yes. They cut Sean McDonough

They cut Scott Hanson. They cut Marv Albert

They cut Bob Costas

Oh, and they cut Iron Eagle. I did it Danny did and Taylor. That's it. I did not they kept Toreco

They kept Nick Wright and they kept Jeff passing right now. I didn't keep Nick Wright. Okay, Danny and Taylor

I still I still got love

Danny I

Understand I just realized it's bread is buttered. I get that. Yes

It's a spa because you know, they're writing these things not knowing what the next name is gonna be

Why is this is gonna be pissed? Well, that's what Danny was worried about. Yeah. Yes, but we did it Danny on purpose

Yeah, no, he's Danny. You're out of the family

He was worried that Matthew Barry was gonna be the last name

You guys that's why that's why he'll put a hit out on him. That'll be the end of it

But can you believe Taylor keeping you off that list, huh? I mean, it's all right. Yeah

I was the just yeah, I was the deciding vote and I felt I felt bad instantly. Yep

Could you knew I was coming up the next day or later later. This is hours ago

I got blinded trying to hold out for Craig Carton. Yes

And I was hoping Carton would never be mentioned

It's tremendous. Oh, it's so good. You got a deep roster there at Syracuse my man. It is not bad

Not so much better than Northwesterns, right where my daughter goes. Yes. I saw that on social media. Congratulations

Yes, I'm in a chat. I'm in Chapel Hill right now. I want to say boots on the ground for the for the uber Davis story

But I'd be lying. I'm here for Northwestern North Carolina game

I

Look forward to the games this weekend. I'm up forward to your call of the games along with Bill and Grant

You guys are fantastic. Thanks. Thank you so much for doing this man. You are great. My pleasure great to be on with you guys

All right, I'm booking you next week for the just before the final four

Oh, yeah, I roll I and right to reach out to you right before you call your biggest sporting events

Yes, I would have done it until the blind rankings and then I kept you in that ended it

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