Set 1: Knicks Fans Are Better Coaches Than Mike Brown (w/ Shawne Merriman)

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I found it funny.

I'm not certain your thoughts on this, but I did find it funny that Luca,

when asked about in a post game press conference asked about the MVP,

he said, I don't think about those things.

I'm not thinking about it.

It sure seems like Luca thinks about it and awful lot is he.

I have to be honest with you.

Yeah, because he petitioned to guess, you know, some sort of override on the 65 game rule

and it worked for him and for who's the other person to work for?

They'd cutting him.

They'd cutting him, that's right.

And so, you know, it could be him doing that.

It could be his people doing that, but I think it makes a lot of sense for that to happen.

Now, he wasn't going to win the MVP because he didn't play, right?

It wasn't if he played 65 games, was he going to win the MVP?

The trick was if he had gotten to like 69-70 games and played the rest of the season,

you know, had a bunch of big scoring outputs and then probably would have been considered.

And as it is, he's going to get fourth place votes.

But what's going to happen there is he's going to make all NBA team.

And as the scoring champion, to not make one of the all NBA teams just crazy.

Like, I don't think it's ever happened.

And so, that is all is right with the NBA statistical world.

And, you know, because what people were concerned about to do is, you know, 20 years from now,

we look back and it's like, wait a second, did Luca play?

He seemed to lead the league at scoring.

Why wasn't he all in all these all NBA teams?

It doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't represent that season properly.

And so now we can at least represent the season properly except for one guy.

Anthony Edwards.

He did not win as a field.

And he did not get to the 65 game threshold.

So he won't be on any of those teams, which is crazy because I don't know about you, Stu.

But like, Anthony Edwards is the one sort of lurker at all times.

That I feel like can win or lead a team past in any playoff series to a win.

Like, he's just, he's that good, but he's also that surprising when he decides to turn it on.

And when he does, it's just like, he can do it with threes, he can do it with drives, he can do it with defense.

And he seems to motivate his guys to play super hard around him when he is turning it on like that.

So, I mean, I don't know what the exact detail was.

It's why his circumstance wasn't special enough to get that sort of waiver, if you will, into the 65 game group.

But it's pretty silly for him to not be included on one of those teams.

Who is the player that has the most amount of pressure on him in this postseason?

Because I would say it's Jalen Brunson.

Is that fair?

Yeah.

Wow.

I mean, the next column, he's exceeded expectations.

They got to the Eastern Conference finals a year ago.

But eventually he's got to be a guy that can get his team to the NBA finals.

He has to be.

Well, I think the narrative around the mix was Brunson's doing enough.

He needs the guys around him to pick it up.

He needs Carl Anthony Towns to be better.

He needs perhaps, I would say maybe his defense could be better in Jalen Brunson.

But I don't think there are people saying, Brunson, you got to get us to the finals.

I think it's the folks around him got to get them to the finals.

I think it's Mike Brown has to figure out a way, you know, the right rotations and things like that.

Who has the most pressure?

Man, that's a great question because you know who seems to be putting more and more pressure

on himself is Victor and Benyama.

Right.

But that's it.

Is he just back to it?

Just back to Brunson.

Sorry to cut you off.

No, Brunson for a second.

That's a convenient spot for Brunson to be in, where if you get there, you get all the glory.

And if you don't, it's somebody else's fault.

No, you're the best player on the New York Knicks.

Get that team to the NBA finals.

The fans have been starving for it forever.

Brunson has reached almost untouchable status in New York because the team, I'm going to change that.

Yeah.

The team was irrelevant for so long.

And then he comes here and their expectations change.

And to Izzie's point, I think there is more pressure on Carl Anthony Towns to kind of fit into this Knicks puzzle.

This postseason, then there is on Jalen Brunson, who Knicks fans have kind of come to expect that they're going to get whatever production they get from Jalen Brunson.

And everybody else kind of has to raise their performance.

Like I think Michele Bridges has more pressure on him this postseason than somebody like Jalen Brunson.

So that's funny.

Izzie, that all comes with expectations, right?

The Knicks fans were not expecting this from Jalen Brunson.

They were expecting more from Carl Anthony Towns.

So maybe that factors into it a little bit.

Yeah. And look, I don't think he is free of pressure.

I don't want to say that, you know, he's playing with house money and can can bomb in the playoffs.

And nobody would blame him.

But so far, if you look at what he did during the regular season, Bernie wants the exact same season as last year.

And point wise to a T26 points per game.

And so if he now does the same that he did in the playoffs last year, which is raise his game.

The average almost 30 last year.

And, you know, shot even better from the field.

And so for him, if he falls off of that pace, yes.

You can absolutely blame him. Hey, you didn't do at least do what you did last year.

How do you expect us to go further?

But to say that he has another gear in him that he needs to average.

I don't know something like 35 points a game in order to carry that team.

I think that's probably a little bit too much pressure on him.

Izzie, over the past like two weeks, if you look at some of the Knicks usage ratings,

the Jalen Brunson, Carl Anthony Towns, pick and roll has gone way up.

And there's two sides of that conversation where it's like,

did Mike Brown just not realize that it's one of the most effective things that this Knicks team has.

Or the Knicks were just saving it for the playoffs and going to unveil like this high usage rate for the playoffs.

And they were just kind of fine tuning it the last two weeks.

Neither of those two sides really makes too much sense to me.

I don't think either of those are the case. I don't think he was holding back.

I do remember them talking about the two-man game between those two and how simple it's been and how simply effective it's been.

And it feels like a late season discovery.

It feels like something where had they been doing it all season long,

maybe teams would have warmed up to it and figured it out.

I don't think that they were holding back from it.

I just think they sort of discovered, hey, why don't we do this again?

It just seems pretty simple.

And if you think about Jalen Brunson, he does great work.

In the ISO, he does great work.

Once he's in the paint with some footwork and everything else and getting his shots off,

the simple two-man game, I don't think is something that has really been explored that thoroughly with those two.

And in part, like Carl Anthony Townsend doesn't seem like that classic roller.

He's more of a fate to the corner type of guy.

But if he mixes it up and Jalen finds them in the right spots,

it seems like it's an impossible thing to defend.

It's pretty simple.

So they just stumbled into something that worked.

I mean, is that really right?

I'm feeling worse about this next playoff run as we're getting into the playoffs

because if they just happen to stumble into something that worked,

is he the guys in 312 on the Chase Bridge at Madison Square Garden?

All season have been saying, hey, Jalen Brunson, Carl Anthony Townsend,

let's get them involved in the pick and roll.

That's two weeks of the season.

The coaches are like, hey, we might have something that works here.

What the fans have been screaming this entire season?

They're paying my brunt all this money in the meantime.

Some fan from fucking section 312 could have figured this out.

I mean, what are you doing?

Sometimes you're right.

Sometimes you overthink some stuff.

And when you've got, you know, you're brought into this mix situation

to its finals or bust as a head coach, maybe you overthink things, right?

Like, yeah, look at what the Miami Heat did this year.

It's an completely different offense that they're what they used to have.

It was like a barely sent any screens.

I was saying my whole time, if these guys make the playoffs,

go back to the old offense, shock the hell out of the other team,

set screens everywhere.

Sometimes you just trip upon something where you're just like,

you know what?

We've ignored this for too long.

We've been overthinking it.

Let's just go with what works.

That could be the case here.

Or they could have been super slick.

I've been holding back all season long.

That I don't believe.

No, no, no, they're not saving it for the post season.

The old pick and roll.

No, it's not as big.

It's not as big.

And then roll.

Ah, we've got a great idea here.

Oh my God, they're pulling out the pick and roll.

Is he in terms of expectations?

And this one's tougher because they're in the playing game tonight.

Where are NBA fans and the NBA media at with Devon Booker right now?

Because he seems like for what people thought he would be

and what it looked like he was going to be at one point in his career.

We're pretty far off that.

And I don't want to say disappointment.

But since they had that finals appearance,

he really hasn't done much in Phoenix.

That's a great...

So that's what you think.

You think as just a fan that from a distance,

it feels like he has been largely disappointing since basically

that 21 finals run.

It felt like he was going to have his moment

as one of the faces of this next generation of the NBA.

And, you know, Wembenyama, Anthony Edwards,

everybody is seemingly passing book where book was at.

I thought this too for a little bit, right?

And then I just go back and I sort of watch him play a little bit

and then go back and look at his stats.

And he has not fallen off.

Like, his percentages have fallen off a little bit the last couple of years

when there's more required of him.

But the thing that I realized about Devon Booker during the Olympics

was that he doesn't need to be the look at me superstar.

He doesn't need to be the,

I want to lead the league in scoring superstar.

Like, he just wants to win.

He had been, you know, miserable early on in his career

where he was pretty much irrelevant and not winning.

Then you get Chris Paul in there winning.

And, you know, he has the Olympic experience

and he plays that sort of key,

hog role, utility knife role.

And now he's, you know, he did the Kevin Durant thing

and it didn't work out.

And he's just kind of plugging along.

Like, I think he's just sort of waiting for the next

rebuild and Phoenix to happen and show that he's still in good form

because, yeah, I think he's, he's just been doing exactly that.

He's been plugging along, doing his job and not really, you know,

causing any fires.

And so I think that from a distance makes it seem like he's not performing.

But look at his numbers.

He's been doing fine.

Is he, when I originally asked you that question,

the player with the most amount of pressure headed into the postseason,

you, I cut you off.

You were headed down a web in Yama path.

Where were you headed there?

Well, because the more you listen to analysts discuss

who they think is going to win, the more people you have,

saying the spurs are the favorite.

And that's a scary proposition if you're this team where you have this experience.

Right?

Yeah.

It takes one rolled ankle for Victor Wimbanyama.

And now the sudden your entire prospects are different.

And so not only does he have to perform, he's got to remain healthy.

He's got to fight through, you know, fatigue.

He's got to fight through game plans that he's probably hasn't seen before

over a seven game series in the regular season.

And so, and he's also accepting any and all of that pressure.

And so he wants it.

Yeah.

Putting some of it on himself, 100%.

So I think that in itself when, when the world wants you to succeed

and you haven't done this yet, it's, it's a lot of pressure.

And he's, I mean, I wouldn't call him a favorite.

I would call OK.

See the favor.

I wouldn't call him obviously a favorite to get out of the West because OK.

See isn't the same conference, but seems to be a lot of pressure on him.

And then I would say second is probably Mike Brown.

Right.

Not Jalen Bronson because it runs in.

Yes.

But Mike.

Yeah, Mike Brown has pressure because his Taylor pointed out there's fans in section 312.

We could coach this team better.

I mean, how about that?

I think Josh Hart might have more pressure on him.

This, this playoffs than Jalen Bronson where Josh Hart's a 40% three point shooter this season.

And if you're looking at it, you're like, I don't really trust that you're going to be a 40% three point shooter

when it actually matters despite what your numbers say.

That's the thing about the nicks.

Like you go up and down that roster and it's like, OK, who has room to improve still?

Who has, you know, is not budding their head up against the ceiling of their potential.

I don't, it's basically Carl Anthony Towns, right?

Because I know again, how much more can you ask of Jalen Bronson?

How much more can you really ask of OGN and OB?

Michele Bridges maybe, but that's more based on what he was traded for and not really his NBA, you know, resume.

So and Josh Hart absolutely, I mean, he's been banging his head against his ceiling for years now.

He's not getting any better.

And so it just, it just makes you wonder how they're going to turn that on.

And it's got to be Carl Anthony Towns, give me more than 20 points again.

Is he you're not going to be surprised if the spurs do it this year, right?

You can't be surprised. He's that talented. He's that good that kid.

I wouldn't be shocked only because I keep looking back at the 15, 14, 15 warriors that just shocked the world and won that championship.

And nobody saw that coming except for maybe Ethan Strauss.

And I think it's possible when you have an overwhelming talent like Victor Wemman, Yama and a group that has been really tight like the spurs team.

It's a different type of formula, but it's a similar formula to that warrior's team.

So I think they can do it, but I think they've just got too many huge hurdles.

I think, okay, Ceezy, huge one. I think Denver is a huge one.

And I just have a feeling he might make the Western Conference finals, but I don't think he'll make it all the way to the finals.

But he pulls in the French fan rather. He's giving me when the Knicks get eliminated.

I'll still be intrigued by the NBA playoffs.

Why are you eliminating the Knicks?

I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that if the Knicks get eliminated, I'll still be intrigued and interested in the NBA playoffs as long as Wembee is still involved in the NBA playoffs.

He's giving me reasons to watch past my best team. Does that make sense?

It does. And frankly, I don't think we've hit the high point in terms of Victor Wemman, Yama, like advertisements.

Getting in your face, like there's still a level of fan or level of consumer that he hasn't even reached.

And it's going to be wildly intriguing, intriguing when they do the remind everybody how big he is.

Remind everybody, wow, this giant of a man is going to come in and dominate the NBA.

Like some of that stuff is still yet to reach people.

They're just like, I'll watch an alien play in the NBA. Sure. Why not?

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I eliminated the Knicks because a fan in section three fucking 12 realized that the pick and roll was a better option before Mike Brown did.

I mean, Jesus Christ, Taylor.

You see how the fat. Whoa. Why are you eliminating the Knicks because their coach stinks.

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Hey what's up man how you doing I'm doing well buddy so we're a week away from the NFL draft that I'm wondering if you remember what it is you were doing a week out of your NFL draft the draft that you were taken in what was it like the week out and then the week leading up to the NFL draft.

You know like when the draft comes around it's probably the best time because all the work is done right I mean as soon as you soon you leave college you jump right into your workouts getting ready for a combine getting ready for your interview is finding the agent I mean just.

It's nonstop and then the week or two before the draft you like I'm chilling right all my work is done now my name just got to get called and we're all good so it's it's bit of like just a celebration for the last week or two before the draft for the players.

What was the first thing that Sean Merriman purchased once he was drafted to the NFL.

A two wagon a G 500 and I sent it off to west coast remember west coast customs back when it was big there yeah yeah man I got that thing all lights out out man TVs and everything else so that was it that was it west coast customs that was the MTV show right.

I was it yeah yeah yeah okay you're in or no you're good with it.

No it was the best I mean you know I'm like I want to preach the capricious County Maryland man like you know you start seeing shows on TV like okay the first thing I'm going to do when I get some money I'm doing whatever's on this show right.

I didn't give it I didn't give a damn what that thing looks like I was like I'm getting my card done by west coast customs turns out man they they did a really good job.

Sean real quick I don't think you were ever on any really bad teams were you.

No not not right man they kind of struggle you know when I got the buffalo my last couple years I got I basically got waves you know I get people I straight it right on and they wasn't playing that well but I wasn't on a team and then the following year we actually start like five and all and then we all got hurt and did everything with one of the bridge.

Okay so the reason I said because I'm that we're down here in South Florida and the dolphins are going through some transitions but they've got the Von H and there and the GM has says that he's off the table he's not available for trades but.

If I'm H and I'm playing for a team with no expectations and I know they're going to work me like crazy am I excited about that because I might get you know stats and get my money down the road or is it just feel like a wasted year where they're just kind of work overworking you.

It's hard man and one of the hardest things you're doing is to show up to work every day with a good attitude when you got suck right yeah it is it's tough because.

The the losing attitudes and negativity in the locker room you know the coaches don't know if they're going to get fired week to week or year to year it's just it's like a dark cloud and so to ask somebody that football football is emotional game is passionate you got to have like.

A good attitude to go out there and run your body into another human being full speed and so when you walk into a negative situation you're like okay how do I do this how do I go put my body in the line knowing that we're not going.

Sean you played with Philip Rivers and I'm wondering when he announced that he was coming back to start a couple of games this year what was your reaction to that.

To be honest man I wasn't shocked because I was with feel I was with feel doing Antonio Gates is all the same induction I can.

So me him drew breeze L.T. you know Gates we're all kind of circled up and talking and you know Phil was talking to the president.

Right like a lot of us you know we're retired like okay remember this what is happening this play in this game feel it just the same animation the same passion energy he talks with.

It just seemed like he was ready to go out in place so I didn't pick up on the conversation until it was announced didn't made up didn't make sense.

Sean it feels like there's a lack of hype around this draft and I think it's because of the lack of quarterbacks or the lack of high level quarterbacks in the draft how are you looking at this draft as a former defensive guy.

That's always the case right and but with the NFL this and and I wouldn't even say just with the NFL but fans the general quarterback like that big name that keystone quarterback drives everything it drives fans it drives jerseys it drives TV revenue it all starts with the quarterback so whenever it's not there right whenever it's not there then everything starts to kind of dwindle down that I mean that's the same reason why the Super Bowl wasn't talked about as much.

Right because they didn't have a passion at home they didn't have a Joe burrow they have a Josh Allen and so everything is driven by the quarterback position but.

There's some damn good players coming out in this draft man and and by the way these some of these guys are going to be all future hall of famers one day I think I mean it's it's just given but.

Man I think there's a turn there's a tied happening right now where.

They got to start highlight some of these other guys everything can be revolved around the quarterback position.

Sean speaking of the chargers they got X Miami head coach Mike McDaniel down there as the offensive coordinator I'm a little or over there I shouldn't say down there I'm kind of excited to see it because I really like McDaniel and I like.

The idea of what he can do with Justin Herbert there how much do you think Justin Herbert still has in terms of before he hits his ceiling to improve and how much do you think McDaniel can help him out with that.

So many and then let me tell you Mike McDaniel is a very smart to do this and you know you look around and he has an opportunity some meetings I think he would decline the meeting or two to go when he had an opportunity for a head coach and job.

You don't want to take a head coach and job there's going to get you fired in a year or two anyway right like you just don't want to and you got an opportunity to go and coach a quarterback put yourself put your put your name back in the hat after this next season or two.

And go to a team and a position that you want this time right now that you have to take because you because the opportunities there so I just think he was smart in a way did it and also like kudos to to to Jim Hobbock right because you're letting the big personality coming there.

And kind of drive things and Jim Hobbock's a really big personality to man so I just think that they put winning first between the two and and set themselves out for the future.

But just at Herbert has to win now right Sean like he's run out of excuses you have the head coach you have the offensive genius you have to start winning playoff games right.

Yeah well of course that dark cloud is always going to be over until he gets deep in a playoffs there men of them not just saying win the ring he I'm talking about like at least in the FC championship game.

But you also got to remember the two best tackles and football went down last year for the season.

That that interior that that they didn't have anybody at the center position your start and run it back and your number your first round traffic all went down one for the season the other one for half the season.

And so if you start looking at that I'm again because we all and I'm and I'm guilty this too because I played against one of the best quarterbacks ever.

We got to start taking a little bit out of the quarterbacks hands because if you just if you want to sit back and say you know what this team didn't play well because Justin Herbert well man you lost three pro bowlers.

Right you lost three or four pro bowlers on one offense in one year I mean that just doesn't happen so what do you do right what do you do as a quarterback.

I mean he got tax just Herbert literary got tax last year because they couldn't block form so but yeah I agree he has a dark cloud until he gets deep in the playoffs.

There's another quarterbackers a whole locker room that has his weird dark cloud over and that's in Philadelphia you've got the AJ Brown situation which you know they're GM saying he's a part of the Eagles but everybody seems to be expecting him to be moved.

What do you make of that because it doesn't seem like they're very often his teams with this much dysfunction that still have success.

That is one they should have won two super balls the last five years I mean.

Yeah but again and while we you know how the dampers really on them we talk about this dark cloud is but really because Jalen hurts.

You know that that's that's where it starts now I'm not saying you don't put fingers point fingers at AJ Brown you don't point fingers that.

You know other other positions or even coordinators but the dark cloud is really around Jalen hurts and whether he's an elite quarterback or not.

Right that's where it starts at now you can kind of trickle down okay let's look at AJ Brown situation is he is he a problem in locker room where he's just.

You know there's animosity between him and Jalen hurts can we keep him here and risk.

Running to the same problems again next year you can start looking at other things but the real question mark is on Jalen hurts and is he in the lead quarterback or not.

What do you think.

I think he's above average I think I don't think he's elite I think he's above average but again you know you give.

An elite quarterback that roster.

They gonna do right they're gonna went to a three super balls because if you look at both sides of ball and who they have and what they have for the interior delaminate pass rushers to D.B.

To a running back I mean you give an elite quarterback that roster and you got you two or three super balls within the five year period that that you know you get.

Passion homes you get Joe barrel you give.

Any one of these Josh Island you get any one of these guys that roster they got a couple super balls within five years so yeah I think he's above average I don't think he's elite.

Who's the quarterback that Sean Merrim and never sack never got to that he wishes he had sacked.

Man.

Did you actually miss it?

I think.

I know.

They all have one.

I got him all.

I got all the ones that lead that I wanted to get right.

So let me try this.

Let me try this way which quarterback gave you the most delight when you sacked it.

Oh Tom.

I mean.

You guys can't see me but I'm smiling right now.

Is it because they were so hell bent on protecting him at all costs because obviously didn't really move.

Yeah protecting him but also two man just the competitive nature of him and you knew how bad he how much he hated to lose how much he hated to get hit or to you know.

One of my years in Buffalo I mean we made him we beat him in Buffalo.

He threw four in the sections.

I mean that was so gratifying because he's so great.

So you know how much he killed him inside to not only lose that game but also throw four big.

I love it.

Sean we were around the water cooler earlier and my prediction was you were going to say Eli Manning just because he had that whole moment where he spurned San Diego on draft night.

Yeah.

No I didn't have a problem with it but I did San Diego a favor.

I definitely hooked the fans up.

I could tell you one thing after we played him I had a bunch of free drinks that night when I went out after the game.

All right so Sean we appreciate the time.

I'm going to ask you here.

I'm going to give you my Mount Rushmore of Maryland sports figures.

Okay.

University of Maryland where you played.

I want your Mount Rushmore and then we're going to ask AI Colin Cowherd.

Okay.

So I will start.

You want to go first?

You want to go ahead?

Yeah.

All right so I would go my Mount Rushmore of University of Maryland sports figures.

Len bias, Lefty Drezel, Scott Van Pelt and Dominique Dawes.

How about that?

Okay.

Pretty good.

Okay.

Who do you got?

That's good.

Yes.

I'll agree with you.

Len bias number one.

Yep.

I'll go I'll go Randy White.

I'll go um.

Let's go off.

It's either Steve France the one addiction on the basketball side.

Yeah.

So good.

It's Stevie franchise.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I will go there.

Man it's tough because I.

I'll go for me.

Scott Van Pelt.

You know.

Yeah.

That's a good one.

I like to represent the school pretty well.

Yes.

I can go there.

Yeah.

All right.

So on the Fox Sports app there is not Colin Coward, AI Colin Coward who's better at his job

than Colin.

It's remarkable.

It's unbelievable.

Colin's very good at his job.

But let's ask AI Colin and see who he agrees with.

Maryland's Mount Rushmore starts with Len bias.

He's the myth.

The talent.

The what could have been that still hangs over the whole place.

Then I'm putting one Dixon up there because he's the face of the modern golden era.

E J Henderson because he owned college football award season.

And Katie O'Donnell because that field hockey resume is basically video game numbers.

That's the four star power titles and legacy.

All right.

Quick gut check.

Are you building yours around basketball greatness or the all sports dominance Maryland's had across the board?

Wow.

No boomer sizing on there.

I noticed.

Boomer.

He's a totally fair call.

He's doing a football only Maryland Rushmore.

He's on it.

No debate.

The reason I left him off my floor is simple.

I went with the guys and gals who feel like the biggest campus legends.

Not just the best pro resume coming out of college park.

Boomers got the ACC title.

The records.

The national football league.

Most valuable player.

He's a monster turp.

If you're swapping him in.

Who are you kicking out?

E J Henderson or one Dixon?

I wrote about it.

Good.

I had shown I understand that you thought Taylor was asking you and he wasn't.

You didn't think that AI column can respond that quickly.

But he can.

And so I understand the confusion.

But the way he says E J Henderson is weird, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He emphasized it.

I was.

You know, I was thinking E J too.

I think I mean, you look.

You can make a case to swap out E J Henderson and Randy White.

I mean, E J is a blocker's winner.

Yeah.

Yeah, man.

I think.

Yeah.

He's one of those guys that does.

All right.

Sorry for being ridiculous with you.

But we enjoyed this very much.

Very much so.

And I'd like to do it again.

I'd like to have you around here more often if you're willing to.

So thank you for doing this, man.

You got to go.

Thank you for having me.

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