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Marc Hochman joins the show and gives his thoughts on Tua heading to Atlanta and whether he believes the quarterback’s career is still salvageable. Hoch also weighs in on Bam Adebayo’s shocking 83-point performance and whether it deserves the hype it’s getting. Then Stugotz and Hoch get into the strange habit of keeping phone numbers for celebrities who have passed away, and why neither of them can bring themselves to delete those contacts. Finally, Taylor debuts a new segment called Think About It Thursday where he asks a question that reveals just how badly Hoch and Stu actually want Team USA to win the World Baseball Classic.
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I am a currently.
Why do you point like that?
Give you a little point.
So someone says your name and you just have to point it on back.
So on Instagram a couple days ago, I posted a video of you, me, Dan, and Jason Jackson.
We were all guests.
It was 15 years ago to the day that I had posted it.
We were all on the Fox, it was Fox Sports Sun back then.
It was Jason Jackson, you know, we'll do the heat, pregame, post game studio show.
And he used to do a segment, I believe, called Hot Sex with Jacks, it sounds like something
he would do.
Hot seconds, excuse me, hot seconds with Jacks.
But if it was Hot Sex, I would not be surprised, I mean.
And so I posted the video of it just as a throwback.
And when he introduces me, you remember it, Dan's in the studio with him.
The studio was at the arena, Dan's in the studio with Jacks.
You and I are both situated on the court and in different locations.
And so when he introduces me, I give the finger point.
And he's like, there it is.
The Fred Carter finger point.
No one knows why.
And then he introduces you and you give him the finger point.
I was just following your lead, my friends, I gave you by the way, your point back.
I'm certain we both learned it from Jason Jackson.
Who doesn't love a finger point?
Jay Jacks lost it more than anyone, I think.
Everybody loves a finger point.
I am very close to where it is that you grew up.
That's what I started to say before you pointed your finger at me, a stone throw away.
One might say from where you are, I'm in Evans did right now, huh?
Yeah.
So your daughter's both go to Northwestern?
Just one of them does, but Northwestern plays Syracuse tonight.
And so my other daughter attends Syracuse and she is coming in for the game.
Oh, that's kind of exciting.
Yes.
So Evanston, I grew up on the North Shore of Chicago and Highland Park.
Yes.
She's 20 minute ride there to Evanston, right up Lake Shore, not the Lakeshore Drive,
right up Sheridan.
How's the body game tonight?
I don't know.
You're going to have to wear the Jersey one half Syracuse and one half Northwestern.
No, no, no, no.
I told them you better wear Northwestern gear, okay?
But she goes to Syracuse.
I don't care.
It's her sister.
I mean, Syracuse thinks they're all a matter.
Oh, God.
Ah, ah, ah, ah, we have some sound to play here, but there are some South Florida stories
that I wanted to discuss with you.
One of them being two up being released by the dolphins, signing with the Atlanta Falcons.
And so it's just so funny because it's the worst signing in the history of the fucking
NFL.
But that terrible signing becomes a good deal and a bargain price for the Atlanta Falcons,
right?
Amazing.
How one man's trash can be another man's treasure.
I knew it was coming.
The contract was terrible.
It was an albatross for the dolphins, but it really does give the Falcons a really,
in my opinion, a real quality backup and a guy probably who competes with Michael
Panics for the starting job, whether it's before the season or during the season, there
will be rumblings, I think, to go to Tua because I'm not certain that I'm that sold on
Panics.
He's injury prone anyway.
Right.
I'm a Tua guy.
I like Tua.
I'm a fan of Tua.
His play dropped off precipitously last season.
Yes.
But up until then, it wasn't that bad a quarterback.
I know people, you know, you know, even on our show, you can simplify it.
Did he get a playoff win?
No.
Well, neither did and you can go down the list over the last 25 years.
He just falls into the heap of quarterbacks from Ryan Tanhill to Ryan Fitzpatrick that
Josh Rosen, all these quarterbacks that the dolphins have started over the course of
a game or two in the last 25 years that have never been able to deliver a single playoff
win.
He ends up falling into that category after getting a $250 million contract.
I get it.
Bad contract.
But there were a couple seasons where he was the best dolphins quarterback that you had
ever seen since Dan Marino.
Yeah.
It ended the story.
2023 for sure.
The season right before he signed the big contract.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where he left the NFL and passing.
He went to Atlanta last year as bad as he was in Atlanta.
He had four touchdowns and know what your assumptions.
Maybe the Falcon saw something.
I don't know.
Don't you want, man?
Put them in a dome.
First of all, does good and weather controlled situations.
I mean, I think, you know, I've asked this question on the show.
Who do you think has a chance for a second act, a successful second act in the NFL?
Who has a better chance?
Kyler Murray or Tua Tonga Vailoa?
I would say Tua easily.
Easy.
I've seen Tua do it.
I haven't seen Kyler Murray do it.
Tua did it for a season with Mike McDaniel.
I would say to add Tua chose the right team, I think.
We'll see where Kyler Murray ends up, but I think Tua chose wisely by choosing Atlanta.
You have Bijan Robinson, maybe the best running back in the league.
You have Drake London, a very good wide receiver, a good tight end.
Like I think Tua has a chance here for a resurgence in Atlanta.
And I think that's why he chose to go to the Atlanta Falcons.
Like what kind of act to are we talking Sam Darnold where you go, wow, that guy's a
Super Bowl quarterback, or are we talking maybe like a Baker Mayfield where you go, hey,
that's the kind of guy that we thought he was going to be coming out of college.
You of course, man, act to a act to a damn whipping on an easy pass ball, easy pass ball
right down the middle.
And I let it go.
Wait, so hot, this is interesting because you like Tua, but you're not as big a dolphin
fan as most, you're wearing a bear sweatshirt right now.
I don't know why I had bears, I can't see, I just saw colors.
You're in Evanston and when in Rome, when in Rome, everything you see, no, there's a
university of Tampa sweatshirt.
Wait, so do you think dolphin fans will be, he was, Tua was kind of polarizing.
I'm wondering if dolphin fans will be rooting for two.
It's like the worst kind of scenario and Lord knows I live this being a jet fit.
It's, do you want the guy?
It's like Geno Smith.
I like Geno Smith when he was a jet quarterback and well, he is again.
Well, I know.
Well, I liked him the first time around when he was young and I thought he could be good,
but I was not rooting for Geno Smith to have success elsewhere.
I was not rooting for Sam Darnal to have success.
So the dolphin fans are in the worst kind of predicament where you have to root for
your team and Malik will us the new quarterback and keep an eye on Tua and hope that Tua
doesn't explode with the Atlanta Falcons.
So I probably am in the minority on this.
I'm rooting for him because I think he's a decent dude.
The weird thing about Tua is this.
I thought, I mean, if you really go back, Brian Flores diminished him.
Most guys come in.
They're the fifth overall pick in the draft and their quarterback.
They're the team leader and the coach leans on them to be a team leader.
And Brian Flores didn't do that in my opinion.
He kind of diminished him.
So I think Tua's narrative at the beginning of his career was crafted by flow.
And so it took him a while to get into this role, especially when Mike McDaniel got there
and said, Hey, this is your team.
Do your thing.
This is your team now.
Tua had to kind of expand his aura a little bit last season.
He had some missteps.
First of all, there are plenty of dolphins fans who don't like the fact that when he got
that big contract, he came out and started shouting, show me the money.
He's all right.
They liked it at that moment.
Right.
They didn't like it when he was getting shown the money and he was just showing us
interceptions and under thrown balls.
But I think a lot of people started to sower on him last season.
He had like three or four either post game or midweek press conference moments that just
kind of rubbed people the wrong way.
Looked like he was throwing people under the bus looked like he wasn't in concert with
his teammates and his coach.
Players were away for meetings.
That's the point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And he was kind of calling them out publicly.
I feel like dolphins fans in general are not rooting for Tua to do well.
Right.
I'm not rooting for the Falcons because I don't care.
I don't have any love for the Falcons.
But I wouldn't mind seeing Tua have a successful Actua as you said, like I wouldn't mind it.
I don't think he's a bad guy.
Right.
And plus he's playing in a conference in a division where if he has to say, it's not
like he's going to come back to haunt the dolphins and let's play each other in the Super Bowl,
you know.
Right.
And if that dude that motherfucker gets this gets to a Super Bowl with the Falcons, all
bets are off.
Well, that's where it starts.
That's what I'm saying.
You'll root for him right up until he makes it to the Super Bowl.
Like I did with Sam Darnold.
There was a nice story until he was actually holding up the fucking Lombardi trophy, you
know.
Tana Hill and Tennessee and all of a sudden, it's like AFC conference championship came
and you're like, huh?
Right.
Yeah.
It's kind of rooting for this guy.
But yeah, fuck this.
All right.
So was she involved in all that?
I sat through.
Yeah.
For example, when I had to cut off his penis, I mean, I stayed in high stakes, the highest
of stakes, I would say.
Is that the highest of stakes cutting off one's own penis?
It's a great question.
Taylor, put it on the pole or those the highest of stakes cutting off one's penis.
I think he's right.
I mean, how could the rehire stakes than that?
I mean, you know, you could get into other appendages, you, I don't know, but it's certainly,
it's in the conversation.
It's not as if either of us are using it very much anymore, really low stakes for me.
Go ahead, take it.
I don't use this thing.
Anyway, we'll get to the sad that the second Taylor, Taylor had an embarrassing moment on
air.
We've all been there.
What are your thoughts here on bam because I am tired of talking to Israel fucking good
ears about this.
I mean, here's my thought.
We over contextualize things in the social media sphere all the time and on our talk shows
and all the different media outlets.
The NBA, for those who believe that the Miami Heat diminished the product by playing
the way that they played in the fourth quarter, the NBA has already diminished the product.
And so to take some holier than thou stance on that particular fourth quarter, over all
the other bullshit that we sit through with the NBA on a night in night out basis, do
you know the team that Washington was fielding against the heat Tuesday night?
Yeah, it was bad.
That's a disgrace to the NBA.
Yes.
Not not what bam and the heat did.
So I kind of feel like this half, half the time we complain about players not playing
enough load management and teams actively trying to tank and players who should be out there
and probably could be out there aren't out there, right now after Tuesday night, we're
going to complain that someone was out there, but he shouldn't have been out there.
The stars, right, we complain, yeah, you take your son out to a game.
You want to see the stars play and here's a star who played, but now he's played too
much.
Right.
He should be on the bench.
No, I know tomorrow I'll go back to complaining.
Everyone's on the bench too much, but right now, bam should be on the bench and he should
not be going for the record.
And here's what I really like because we sat through Mike McDaniel with the dolphins.
They put up 70 points against Denver.
And when they had a chance to go for 73, a chip shot field goal to tie the NFL record,
he chose not to.
And I thought it was tone deaf by Mike McDaniel.
This fan base dolphins nation needed that.
We needed something special and he decided I'm going to play by the unwritten rules here.
I'm not going to add any more points to the total.
I'm just going to run some clock and Eric Spostra and the Miami Heat, who I believe are
stalwarts of NBA unwritten rules and and taking the seriousness of the game, the way that
it should be and and taking into account all the legacy players who have come before.
Eric Spostra allowed the moment to dictate a decision for him that's really against the
norm.
Yes.
Right.
So in most situations, Eric Spostra is going to sit his starters in the fourth quarter.
In most situations, Eric Spostra is going to be content to allow the other team to run
out the clock or him to run out the clock and just kind of get the game over with and
Spowe read the room.
It was a random Tuesday night.
Heat nation needed this.
It's been kind of a middling feeling being a heat fan.
And you had an opportunity here.
You saw it after the first quarter and 31 points.
You had an opportunity here to do something memorable for heat fans and for bam, bam
deserved it and for the heat.
And by the way, there's 15, 16 games left in the season and the heat are still playing
for something.
That's a catalyst in my opinion.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a moment it became wrestling Tuesday night.
Eric Spostra is demonstratively calling for a replay with three minutes left in a game
you're up by 30.
The game is already decided.
And by the way, he's calling for a replay on an offensive foul where bam, not only obviously
committed an offensive foul, he committed it on two people, two people standing in the
lane, taking his charge and spoke.
It was like wrestling.
He became kept in Luel Bano, getting the crowd involved like Spowe read the room correctly.
And bam's teammates read the room correctly, bam read the room correctly and heat nation
and the team and bam, everyone got something to celebrate on a random Tuesday night against
the wizards that should have been a game that was forgotten and never thought about again
becomes one of the more memorable sporting moments in South Florida history.
Yeah.
So I loved it.
I thought it was great.
And for those who want to complain and pick it apart, I mean, it's fine.
It's what people do, but I would say it gave the NBA something that was exciting rather
than the conversation, always being about why aren't guys out there?
Why aren't teams trying to win?
And this was the opposite of that.
That's a great take right there.
I mean, Taylor, that was, that's a good, I mean, nuanced, great, relaxed, calm days.
That's screaming like his real goodie, he has just given you a good take right, I like
it.
Brack me.
If you want to blame someone, blame the wizards for being fucking lousy, seriously, I mean,
come on.
But Hawk, you know, it's, so it's a non-traditional score or breaking what many people perceive
to be the greatest score in the history of the NBA in Kobe Bryant, and they don't like
it.
But for Tyler Hiro, break Kobe Bryant's record, not bad, you know, totally understand
that.
It's out of character for BAM.
So most NBA fans are looking around, you know, you see Kobe do it and you go, okay,
that makes sense.
Yeah.
That guy's always trying to score as many as possible.
So I get it.
It was out of character for BAM.
So then you kind of immediately default to, oh, what kind of chicaneery went on for him
to get this when he wouldn't score 83 points in four games.
But whatever.
Like that's what makes sports fun, right?
Yes.
I'm with you.
Taylor, do you know who Captain Lou Albano is?
No.
It's unbelievable.
It's unbelievable, this Taylor.
These kids, I mean, who's on, who's your, who's the best wrestling manager in your opinion,
Taylor?
What?
The question.
It's a manager.
Oh, man.
Some guys have done both.
Some guys have wrestled and they've been a manager.
Right.
Classy, Freddie, blessy.
Yeah.
Bobby, the brain, Heenan.
Hmm.
Well, bearer would probably be my number one.
Paul bearer.
Yeah.
That's wrestling managers, Mr. Fuji, of course, eyes at all times.
Great.
Yeah.
Captain Lou Albano.
I don't think anyone is.
I think if you, if you were to look up a list of best wrestling corner man managers,
I think it would be Captain Lou.
I did.
On any list, I think he is the most famous of them, you know, see what Google has to say.
Paul Heyman, best wrestling manager of all time.
Let's see.
He's talking to Google.
Hold on.
I don't even know who Paul Heyman is.
Hmm.
It's like probably the brain Heenan widely considered to be the greatest wrestling manager
of all time.
Right.
Oh, other top contenders.
Paul Heyman.
Yes.
Who?
Oh, Jimmy Hart.
Wow.
Wow.
The mouth of the set.
You got pictures with them.
The megaphone.
Yeah.
Classy Freddie Blasey is up there.
Well, how the fuck is Lou Albano not on this list?
And who is this Heyman guy?
I'm going to Bing from now on.
Google doesn't know.
Shit.
Maybe you believe the Sharpie in your mouth.
I don't know.
I believe that I have Bobby Heenan's phone number in my contacts because he used to come
out with us.
I'm certain that you probably do.
I think I have Captain Lou Albano's.
He's dead.
Correct?
Yes.
Yeah.
You want it?
Which dead people do you still have in your contacts that you can't get rid of?
And I'm not talking about like family members, which is touching like which dead people you
just can't get out of your contacts.
I have O.J.
Simpson.
Yeah.
And you just can't get rid of it.
Why would I?
Right.
Right.
You're showing it off.
Right.
Oh, I have Carl Weather.
I'm just looking at my contacts.
Carl Weathers.
He's passed away.
Has me.
I believe he has.
Yes.
I have Bob Sagittan here.
I just can't get rid of him.
Get Alan Thick as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For obvious reasons.
Oh.
I looked up to see if I have Sagitt.
I have Craig Sager.
Can't get rid of.
Yeah.
I'm looking up dead people.
Let me see.
Hmm.
Anybody got Hulk Hogan?
I do.
I do not.
I do have Hulk Hogan's.
Yes.
That's something that that we need to revisit on the with Stugots and Hockman podcast
at some point the the first ever interview with Dan and Hulk Hogan.
Yeah.
I still have Hank Goldberg's of that.
Oh, I probably have Hank.
Yeah.
And I still have Jim Manditch's.
I did.
I have all their numbers.
Yeah.
I have Hank Goldberg.
Yeah.
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I want to play some sound of Taylor on the radio show messing up the dolphins, new head
coach.
It's a terrible spot here, Hawk.
I forced him to ask a one, one more question that didn't need to be asked and I put him
on the spot.
Let's play the sound and just get Hawk's reaction to Taylor goofing up the dolphins at
coach.
And just a little more context.
I got the dolphins of it.
I got the Packers of the South from listening to Hawkman on Hawkman Crowder in Salana.
Right.
So that's where the confidence started to come from.
And you're just regurgitating one of my radio takes.
Yes.
Exactly.
Two of my Tannenbaum.
Yes.
And this is how it turned out.
Mike, where a South Florida show, what do you think about the dolphins becoming the Packers
of the South down here with John Erk Solven and Laflour and not Laflour, but Malik Willis
too.
Yeah, he met the head coach.
He forgot his name.
That's what happened there, Mike.
Yeah.
Almost sounds like you didn't know what either.
I didn't.
I didn't.
But all he had to do, I told him to ask about Malik Willis.
And that's it.
Just say, Mike, your thoughts on Malik Willis, he tried to do too much in that spot, huh?
It's nice though.
When you call him the Green Bay of the South, and then you fire off three names real quick.
Yeah.
To make your point, but they have to be the right three.
Nade.
Correct.
Guy Laflour from the Montreal, Canadian did not make the journey down.
Oh, you're talking about Matt Laflour.
You know, Guy Laflour Taylor, uh, geez.
Sounds like a hockey goalie.
I mean, he's one of the great goals scorers of all time.
Perhaps.
Uh, but, so I put, I said, Taylor, we're a South Florida show.
We have my tan and batman.
Someone needs to ask him about Malik Willis, the new dolphin starting quarterback.
And so, Taylor, you heard, you heard how he asked the question.
It was clocky that he hit under the desk, his tan and batman was giving me an answer.
So is that on me?
Because perhaps I should have asked it, Taylor needs to shorten that up though, right?
I mean, no.
Taylor has to know who the head coach is for the Miami Dolphin.
That's number one.
It can't, it can't, you, that's like, I'll give you the pass on not knowing John Eric Sullivan,
but you got to know the head coach, like, you got to know the quarterback and the head
coach before the general manager.
Listen, how quickly he, uh, he, he aborts on the entire thing on the head coach and just
a Malik Willis and then just imagine right after he says that that he ducks under the
nearest desk, Mike, where a South Florida show, what do you think about the dolphins becoming
the packers of the South down here with John Eric Sullivan and, uh, La Flore and, um,
not La Flore, uh, but Malik Willis too.
Yeah, he met the head coach.
He forgot his name.
That's what happened there, Mike.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That, but it hurts me to hear it each time because I've been there.
It's, it's like, it's a, it's a painful moment kind of happening to me.
You know, we had Jason Jackson on after the BAM out of Bionite and I was trying to tell
Jack's that on the night, BAM scored 83.
I had bet Myron Gardner over four made field goals, but I wasn't under the assent
assumption that no one was going to get field goal attempts other than BAM out of Bionite.
So the notion that Myron Gardner was going to hit the over was a little foolhardy, but
nobody had let me know.
But as I'm asking Jack's the question, I can't remember the name Myron Gardner, which I
think is understandable.
And I did a little heming and hawing and nobody figured it out, but I knew in my head,
I was like, I'm counting down to danger zone.
I'm like, I've got about four seconds left here of vamping.
I got to come up with a name at some point or this story, this question's going to fall
flat.
That's a, any bet I got to tell you though, I mean, I'm sorry you lost it, but at the time
it seemed like a good play.
Fucking $100 bonus bet.
I'm looking at the roster.
Heroes out, powles out, Wiggins out.
That means Myron Gardner's going to start and he's going to jack up some shots.
All of a sudden, I mean, literally lay ups, pass it out to BAM, rebound, pass it out
to BAM.
How am I going to win that bet?
What was the over?
What was the tunnel?
Four made field goals.
Okay.
Field goal attempts.
Yes.
He had two made, right?
Two, two made.
Yeah.
He did.
I mean, he played 26 minutes.
What is he?
How about a man?
Imagine chance, Myron.
Imagine betting BAM out of bio double double, which was like minus 200.
He ended with 83 and nine.
I did not hit a double double.
That's a bad beat, man.
Oh, that's a rough one.
This Myron Gardner.
If it Jesus.
Myron Gardner.
I thought that was going to be the Myron Gardner game.
Of course.
I did.
Everyone did a BAM stolen from him on sale or loves your talk about it Tuesdays.
We've discussed that in the past and now he has he has a new segment for you.
And I think he has imaging for the segment already.
Wow.
So, hot take a listen here.
This is the counter.
You're talk about it Tuesdays.
Okay.
You know, that segment talk about it Tuesday on Hawkman Crowder and Solero.
This is like that.
But bigger and better, better and 48 hours later.
This is think about it Thursday.
He loves imaging Taylor and he loves that the imaging with the imaging voice on them.
Somebody for Fox Sports Radio.
Vito.
That's like a legit imaging voice for that.
Yeah.
That is fantastic.
So, let me be the first to welcome everybody to the first think about it Thursday.
The question we have for you guys today, would you rather the USA wins the World Baseball
Classic or you find $25 in your pocket the next time you put on pants?
Oh, wow.
Wow.
That's a great question.
USA advanced because who won?
Someone won.
I don't know.
Italy won.
They have no business being in this tournament.
You know, they're not taking it seriously.
And it's tough for me to answer this coming off the heels of the loss of Myron Gardner
over 40 goals made.
I really could use that $25.
I like to chip away at some of my losses.
It was a free play.
Yeah, but I needed the way that I got the $100 bonus bet was so stupid.
Right.
I needed that $100 back, Myron Gardner.
You're taking the 25.
How much enjoyment am I going to get if USA wins the World Baseball Classic?
That's the question, obviously.
Am I going to get $25 or more worth of enjoyment, right?
If Team USA wins the World Baseball Classic, right?
Right.
Now, Hawk, this is an unexpected like finding money in your pants pocket is one of the underrated
great feelings of all time, great feeling, yes.
So would the World Baseball Classic deliver more enjoyment than that feeling of finding
$25?
He's really thinking about it, Taylor.
Your pocket, right?
Because it's 25 is the perfect number because I think anything more than 25, you're taking
the dollar amount.
Right.
25 makes you think because what could you really do with $25?
$25, I can go downstairs, I can get an avocado toast, cappuccino, and leave a nice tip.
So now I have to really extrapolate this out.
Am I going to get more enjoyment on an avocado toast, cappuccino, and leaving a nice tip
for Maita for the first name basis?
Am I going to watch the entire final of the World Baseball Classic or am I just going
to watch the last inning, right?
And then let's say they win, yeah.
And Pete Crow Armstrong, see here's the thing, I do have a future play on Pete Crow Armstrong
MVP of the World Baseball Classic.
Nice.
And I think it's at like plus 2,000 or something.
And he doesn't get that unless they win, right?
He doesn't have a chance of getting it in less than one.
I'm going to go, I'm going to take the World Baseball Classic.
I'm going to try the World Baseball Classic win for Team USA.
Let me, let me try it this way and I think about it Thursday, okay?
Let me, let me try it this way.
10 years from now, if I asked you, hey, 10 years ago, who won the World Baseball Classic?
There's a good chance you're not remembering.
But if I say 10 years from now, hey, huh, you remember that time you found 25 bucks in
your pants pocket, you'll be able to narrow it down to the day and time.
I mean, it's a fair argument in that moment, though, right?
Right.
Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to go with Team USA winning the World Baseball Classic.
I'm going to say, yeah, if I extrapolate it out further, would you pay $25 out of your
pocket to ensure Team USA wins the World Baseball Classic?
Hmm, no, I mean, the Rosa doesn't deserve by $25.
I mean, no, the rules.
And I think Italy's becoming America's team.
They are.
Well, they're all born in America.
Would you pay, you're a Jets fan, Stugas, yeah, would you pay a thousand dollars out of
your pocket to ensure the Jets win the Super Bowl next season?
I mean, I would like these things to happen naturally without me having to pay money for
it.
But you're going to get more than $1,000 worth of enjoyment out of a Super Bowl season from
your football team.
Oh, hawk, I would easily pay a thousand, I pay more than $10,000.
Yes.
For the $25,000, $25,000, yeah, I would.
Really?
Yeah, $25,000, yes.
Don't ask me to go higher, because I'm not, I mean, this is like the, like the auction
for the, for the stone and uncut gems, I would give them $50,000.
You would go $25,000 to ensure the Jets win the Super Bowl.
You'd have to cut one check.
Yeah, I would.
I definitely would, yes, to ensure that I get to see my favorite football team, my favorite
sports team, win a Super Bowl, because otherwise they have no shot, like, if I'm not paying
for it, I'm never going to see it happen.
So yeah, I would do it, I guess.
Yes.
What about your penis?
Keep it or cut it off.
Right.
Would you pay $25,000 to see your penis?
I let someone cut it off for $25, okay?
My wife would take $5 for me to cut it off.
Oh my God.
My wife would drain all the accounts to get that thing off of me.
Peace to the planet, shall I mean to God here and listen?
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