"Shivery Delicious" (w/ Nicole Kidman)

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Look, man.

Oh, I see him.

Oh, my.

Oh, look over there.

Wow.

Is that culture?

Yes.

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Here we are.

Bowen Yang, it's a very special episode.

Why is that?

Because 10 years ago this week, we started this podcast.

That's crazy.

Feel silly to me.

10 years.

Well, I mean, we're not helping with this whole like 2016 nostalgia thing going on right

now.

There's a lot of that.

I mean, I was going to ask, like, where were you 10 years ago, but now we literally

can't say we were in our friends Alex Ramsey's apartment with the mattress in the window

to keep out the sound.

That was our sound proofing at the time.

And we are now 10 years later sitting here with our guests.

Look at that.

Look at God.

And I got to say, look at God because she's with us in the room.

She's here.

I don't know that we could have booked a better guest for our 10 year anniversary, a podcast

about pop culture.

Right.

You think that the 10 years going to happen.

We probably should get a full blow in pop culture icon in here.

Yeah.

I did my thing.

I'm going to watch a project.

I'm going to go back and revisit the classics.

It's the sort of decision paralysis thing that happens with I think our guests where I'm

sure she's used to this by now where everyone's like, I loved you and then like they must

like sort of short circuit and then like, what did you pick?

So I picked, I was very happy with to die for and the others, which I, and then I watched

the criterion collection feature ret where there's something I want to ask, she mentioned

something that I want to ask her about, which is that she almost quit because she was like,

I can't do this.

This is a woman who is awful to her children, not a spoiler alert, but you know what I mean?

Well, it's the others.

If you've seen the others, if you know, you know, I went for something old, something

new.

I went for final two episodes of Big Little Eyes, perfect.

She's a one.

Perfect.

And I went for eyes wide shut, which I had never seen.

Uh-huh.

And boy, are there questions as a result of this list of projects, but there are approximately

a million roles that our guest has been incredible in, not just as an actress, as a producer.

I mean, fashion, icon, et cetera, arguably best performance is the Chanel number five

commercial.

Oh, which, yes, this is a podcast that's going to bring it up.

Absolutely.

Our 10 year anniversary special and our guest is the one that only Nicole Kirman was so

hard to stay quiet through that.

You stayed very still.

You were very good.

You see me.

You take direction.

I was like, yeah, you told me to shut up.

And when we said Chanel number five commercial, you did, you did jump up.

Oh, bads just texted me.

Did he literally?

So you must have been telepathically picking something up.

We're just talking about it.

We're just talking because my badsy, my badsy, we love badsy, wonderful, what's his name

for me is dear one, dear one, isn't that a lovely name?

That is, has that been for the beginning, dear one, dear one, so elegant.

Same number of syllables as Nicole.

But some had dear one is nicer, dear one.

I can say he has a nickname for me because I met him at an event and his nickname for

me is, I kid you not, you bitch, bitch, because it's how he thinks he's going to book

the podcast.

He wants to come on the podcast.

We got to have him.

Of course we do.

We do.

We're just nagging him.

He is, um, he's a bell because he, he, he sent me the loveliest email after Ariana

and Grande and I did this, um, Mulan Rouge sketch and you guy and no, no, but it was,

I, it was kind of the best thing.

Best outcome possible was to like be able to like be in conversation with him.

Anyway.

He's, he's with it.

I mean, all you want to do is be the center of his universe.

So when you drop from that spot, it's very painful.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, when you're in his orbit, it's something else.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I have to say, I think Mulan Rouge was like, we asked that question a lot.

Like, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you and Mulan Rouge came

out in 2000.

So it was just around the time when we were starting to like be like, I'm going to watch

a movie that my parents don't know I'm going to watch and my mother would see the trailer

for Mulan Rouge and she would say, that looks racy.

That looks very racy and I was like, I went into fifth grade.

I told my teacher, my mom says Mulan Rouge looks racy and she was like, well, you know,

it might be a little racy.

Well, it's sort of about what it's about.

But then you watch it.

What is it about?

Yeah.

It's about a quarter zone.

Yeah.

It's about a quarter zone.

A quarter zone and consumption.

That's right.

And that consumption.

Racy topics.

The greatest consumption death put on.

Sell your lawyer.

I think.

Oh, what man.

I always talk about it.

I was just speechless.

Okay.

And even people on the team are like, like, just the consumption of it all.

And then I get carried, though, in feathers, pink feathers, come on.

Yes.

I get to fly on a trapeze in sequence with men underneath me with 12 hats.

Pretty good.

Bad ass.

Bad ass.

And then I get to die and be held by you and McGregor singing to me.

And then, but I also get to get carried in pink feathers, right?

Pink feathers seem to be.

Oh, that's really lovely.

A lot of people felt that there.

Yeah.

It was just so exquisite.

And also, like, the soundtrack that was birthed from, I think that that doesn't get enough

respect to put on its name because all bangers on that soundtrack.

Yeah.

Well, he's, he's just a music whiz.

Yeah.

And so, I mean, Baz is classically built in terms of all his knowledge and the way in

which he's been trained.

And then he talk about culture and pop culture.

Then he's able to enter the zeitgeist, though.

And he's got all his education and classical training, kind of the best of the best, right?

I don't.

He's a found man.

Well, do we want to talk about that?

I never thought about that.

You, mostly.

It's going to be you.

I'm going to type out to you because they throw someone at me and I'll answer you.

And a call kidman.

How about that?

Because I feel like you're not me.

I'm boring.

Yeah.

Come on.

The reason why, I think the reason why you've had this incredibly illustrious career is because

it's a random career.

It's all so random.

But random in the best way, like I love that we never know where we're going to get from

you.

It is random.

Scarpetta March 11th on prime today, today.

I think it's all a binge.

I know you're not meant to binge things, but binge.

Yeah.

I think it's a binger.

I think this is a binger if you like binging love.

I like binging.

Me too.

It comes, you know, it's not healthy, but I love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just watch it.

Okay.

Watch it and watch it.

And watch it and watch it and watch it and done.

Perfect couple.

Netflix made that easy.

Right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, hopefully this makes it easier.

Jamie Lee and I.

Jamie Lee.

Our Yon.

Bobby.

Kind of.

Oh, yeah.

And he just.

He is.

Crème de la Crème.

And then Simon Baker.

Yeah.

You and everyone else.

Well, he was famously.

He holds a place in gay culture because he was Will's boyfriend.

I'm going to grace.

Yes.

Yes.

He was like the tough talkie.

No, I think he was a firefighter.

Right?

Or was he a cop?

He was.

He was.

He was boy job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's not aged at all.

No.

Right.

Look.

Some people.

Some people have it.

Rose Brenn is very lucky.

She's the best.

We were watching clips of her and Kristen Wigg going back and forth in an outtake real in

Bridesmaids right before you walked in.

I was just talking about that.

That is my daughter and I.

We watch Bridesmaids when we're feeling down.

Whenever we need a lift.

Yeah.

We watch it.

We recite it.

We act it out and we do that in the kitchen and that is our go to saving.

That's how save your film.

It's the best.

That's how save your film.

Yeah.

To pull us out of a funk.

Of course.

100%.

Of course.

There's an under-appreciated, it's a new vocal stem for me, which is a Rose Brenn line

in that, which is after like the Toast off.

Rose Bren goes, desert white is out.

Do you know what I'm talking about?

That's such a funny little leg.

That's why it is evening.

There's also, we were blown by like the patronizing way she looks at Kristen Wig whenever she's

trying to say like an accomplishment of hers.

Just like the white open like.

Wow.

You're a train wreck.

Get the hook.

Get the hook.

Exactly.

Perfect.

Oh, but I just, okay.

Yeah.

I was going to, I was going to, I was going to pay you the compliment and then I was going

to transition into you.

I'll take it back.

No.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I know that you don't, do you receive a compliment while I'm trying to, it's not an

Australian attribute like we always have to, yeah, humility is very important, but also

it's just hard to take compliments because the last thing you want is to be seen as

becoded, right?

Right.

Right.

Of course.

You have to always come in under.

So I, but I'm learning to take the strokes.

Yeah.

Because it feels good.

And then you worked hard.

And then you worked hard.

And then you worked hard.

You worked hard.

You worked hard.

We do this too much, some might say, is that we've gone too much, which we'll keep

to a minimum.

But I, I think the reason why, because you're talking about bads being so plugged into

the culture, I feel like you have that same sense too of just knowing when something is

a worthwhile, not even worthwhile, it's just a risk period, right?

I feel like this randomness that you're talking about is just risk.

And you, it's curiosity, it's desire.

And it's always just being willing to try things and jump off the cliff.

That would be the, the, the way in which I approach things.

But I'm, I want to have fun.

Yeah.

I grew up in a family that had a slight bohemian quality to it, so, but it was very intellectual

family.

So there was, I was taken to see all sorts of theatre and opera and art.

I was raised on, on culture.

And my mother loved fashion.

My grandmother could sew and knit and embroider, so, and they play piano and spoke French and

all those things that you go, oh, okay, teach me.

But they were socially conscious and sort of just an interesting group of people to have

been born into.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And to be launched into the world by.

So things that were fascinating were around you.

There weren't boundaries.

Yeah.

Right.

In terms of sometimes my mother would have a strict moral code and then at other times

a billion.

Yeah.

But there was a huge, there wasn't a lot of judgment.

The barriers were taken away and you could express all sorts of thoughts and ideas.

In terms of philosophy or secrets or, and some of my greatest moments were called up

in my mom's bed, sort of us both sharing human, just humanness and ideas.

And I nursed her through cancer and so I saw all of that.

I saw her losing her hair.

I saw a 50 year marriage in the way that unfurled, is it went along with truth and honesty?

Kind of interesting, right?

Yeah.

And she gave me insight into what it was to be, just to be alive.

And that, and I could ask her anything and my dad as well.

Oh.

That's a really good basis to start life from, right?

100%.

I'm sorry to get serious.

No, no.

Thank you.

What?

It is.

It is funny.

No, but literally, like sometimes I watch your movies and I think when she got the script

for this, like there's no way to really see it, like Mulan Rouge, for example, like the

whole first half hour of Mulan Rouge, it moves so fast and it is so crazy.

Like the scene where you're changing under the, in the tent with Jim Broadbent and you're

sort of like trying on your different personas, it's stuff.

It's got to be impossible to see.

But I guess then for you, that's just like thinking and trusting of the director, because

I feel like that drives you a lot, right, director.

And because he and Catherine Martin, CM, the two of them, they had a beautiful big house

that they would create in and that's where we would rehearse.

And there was very much about him and quality to the way they, they create their art.

And so when you're brought into that, you spend six weeks, workshopping.

But prior to that, I'd done a photoshoot for Vogue with them and I'd seen their work

growing up in Australia and watched them morph into who they were.

And they were just like these crazy talented, I mean, Baz was an actor and a really good

actor.

Yeah, I bet.

And he's in a film called Winter, Winter of our Dreams with Judy Davis and he's fantastic

in it.

He plays a junkie.

Oh, wow.

Yeah.

So there's a tip for you.

Yeah.

Go find that.

I will find that.

Winter, what is it?

Winter of our dreams.

Winter of our dreams.

With Judy Davis, one of the greatest.

The one with the best.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

So yeah.

And then CM and Baz went to NIDA, which is our National Institute of Dramatic Arts.

Yes.

So.

This Bohemian sort of.

No, no, no, there's a Bohemian element here to the way that you were raised.

And I think also I'm just going to pick up on the opera piece.

Opera.

Because I think that I'm going to like have those two heelies come together in terms of

like it describing like the Nicole Kidman of, which is like it's operatic, but it is

also so like artfully diverse for lack of a better term, right?

Because it's like, I think in you talking about the others, it's like you were like,

this is Medea.

This is.

Yeah.

Yeah.

This is classic, Greek, Euripides, but it's also it's this operatic kind of thing.

But I think that applies to a lot of your roles.

Yeah.

Would you agree?

I think what opera gives you is it gives you pathos and it gives you big emotion.

And because I was taken to the opera all the time, and I would sit there with my dad

and my mom.

And we would cry.

I mean, my mother would explain because she could speak Italian, she could speak French.

So she would explain the stories and the stories that, I mean, they're fantastic.

In the same way that Shakespeare, the Greeks, and I grew up reading Russian literature, I

was obsessed with the Russians.

Really?

Yes.

How did you come to me obsessed with that just because I had one of those lists of the

100 books you're meant to read, but I started on Dostoevsky, and then I went, oh, hold

on.

And then I just kept going on Dostoevsky, and then I moved over to Tolstoy.

And then before you know it, I'm obsessed with the Russians.

Yeah.

And I went to St. Petersburg, actually, and saw all of the places that Tolstoy had built

Warren Peace around and people pointed out with, you know, Prince Andre, all of it.

And I was like, what?

Yeah.

That was kind of the beginning of my artistic basis, the Russians.

And then I moved over into the Brontes, of course, which give you the yearning.

Yes.

This certainly does.

I'm on a more.

Yeah.

I'm living on the more isn't it?

Have you seen it?

Yes.

And I loved it.

I loved it.

I loved it.

I loved it.

I loved it.

But I've read Weathering Heights six times.

Right.

Yeah.

And I loved Heathcliff.

Yeah.

So I just, you know, and that state of yearning that the Brontes existed in.

Yeah.

That probably was my state as a teenager and probably continues on now.

It's one of the most, it's the one of the most underrated states of being yearning.

I would agree.

I agree.

Because it is so, it's so painful like when you're in it, but then you can only be in

it for a, tell me if you think this is true.

Like I'll never yearn like I did when I was like 15 to 25 like and you don't realize

that you're not going to feel that feeling as intensely anymore.

Oh, I feel it.

Really?

Yeah.

You still do.

Yeah.

I'm going to study yearning now.

You are?

And it can be towards anything or anyone.

Mm-hmm.

Okay.

But it keeps you alive.

Mm-hmm.

It keeps you moving forward.

Okay.

I got a yearning again.

Come on.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's bring back the yearning.

I know.

Thinking about it in terms of like, like, romantic desire, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

Especially being closet.

It's like all you do is here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The tingles.

I know.

Come on.

Bring on the tingles.

Shivering delicious.

I had a line once in this film called Floating where I play a small role, but I just remember

the description of being shivering delicious.

Shivering delicious.

Oh, yeah.

That's really good.

Good.

Shivering delicious is title of that.

Title of that.

That's actually the title of this episode.

Shivering delicious.

It's become.

And I couldn't think of anything better.

Truly.

Do you have like a favorite line of dialogue you've said?

Oh, I have, I mean, I've worked with the greatest writers.

You truly have.

I think the hours gave me, yeah, when your David Hare wrote, um, just, just exquisite dialogue.

Um, inspired by Virginia Woolf from Michael Cunningham and then directed by Stephen

Doldry.

But that, that, that screenplay was, was just beautiful.

And to be able to do it justice.

Yeah.

That monologue in the hours, that was like to, and we rigorously worked that.

And I have to call out the prices of Stephen Delane in that because that's so much what

acting is.

There's two of you in that scene.

Yeah.

He loves her.

Does he, he wants to take her and, and save her in a way from herself.

But she says, no, it's the right of every human being to, to choose.

I get to choose my destiny.

I get to choose.

And I really believe in that.

Will you direct?

Because she is, because you, you speak like a director.

I do.

Yeah.

I'm really working in like the, obviously, this is a genius actress, but like, but what

I'm saying is like you, I think, would be an actor's dream as a director, because no

one understands it better than you.

Well, I, I've always, I mean, you never say never to anything, because whenever I do that,

that's, that's a disaster and then you go, oh, okay, well, I changed my mind.

Yeah.

Try not to do it.

My prerogative.

Um, but I love being an actor.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

That's very difficult.

Yeah.

That's decision-making.

That is, um, unfaltering in your, um, vision, whereas I see all, always, so I need, okay,

this is what we're doing.

This is where we're going.

Probably.

You want to be amenable to all kinds of outcomes.

I'm interested.

Yeah.

I'm just interested.

That's beautiful.

Yeah.

And so I hope I always say interested.

I love asking questions more than having questions asked.

Yeah.

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So I have a question then, just because I have to tell you again, just looping back to

those things that you remember from Pivotal Momas in your life, I think that every, every

queer person, our age, probably remembers walking into a blockbuster and which was the

video rental store where you can spend rent VHS's and walking over to the Batman Isle

and seeing Dr. Chase Meridian on the cover of the Batman Forever VHS and I was like, I

need to know everything and I rented it again and again and again and I watched it and

that movie I have to say, and Batman and Robin, underrated camp classics, masterpieces,

absolutely.

Yeah, Joe Schumacher.

Yeah, Joe Schumacher.

Yeah, we created her together, that hair, everything and he was like, here she is, his

Dr. Chase.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And he probably felt the same way we did walking into a blockbuster when you were telling

like, it's my job.

My whole thing was I'm not pretty enough to come on, so I really felt when I was doing

that that I was not pretty enough.

What was the idea?

What were you trying to, what were you trying to do?

You were on a collage.

Yeah, I guess.

That's the thing.

That's the thing.

Also, just that sort of the dream, the dream blonde, right?

And I did not feel like that, I've never felt like that.

But that's the beauty of acting is you can pretend, create, become.

Right?

Yeah.

Which is what we love.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You can put on a wig.

You can suddenly put on red lipstick and you can dress differently and put heels on

and suddenly you are kind of when you would love to be.

And then it all comes off again and you're back, but it's so great being able to step

into that.

I mean, the same was so many different characters, but a lot of people also cite the Chanel number

five commercials.

Always.

So they always say to me, it was, it's so, I'll never, when did I win?

I must have been the only person in the world who didn't know who she was.

I, I, I, I, I, tell you what you're doing.

Are you kidding?

No, it was on repeat.

It's my favorite movie.

The Chanel number five commercial was starring you and Roger you're going to send

Dorrow directed by Beth Lervin.

He is my favorite film.

And that pink dress.

Oh, everything about it.

Running down the street with us fast.

Yeah.

And that's CM too.

And they can just create that.

That's why the pink feathers, the pink dress.

I'm a dancer.

I love to fight.

I love to fight.

Oh, okay.

Oh, okay.

It's too much for you.

It is the best.

And it was.

It's like, I am.

You look at me.

No, I am a dancer.

You look at me.

But no one had ever done that sort of film.

I remember Collaga felt being like, I love this.

He gave the thumbs up to it, which was a huge thing for Coll

who was just like, she'd personified, right?

Of course.

Of course.

And it was like, okay, but they spent an enormous amount of money on that.

Yeah.

You can't have been cheap.

They didn't go cheap, but why go cheap when you don't have to and you can create something

iconic like that?

We remember it.

Some clothes.

I'm so glad they didn't skimp.

No.

I love like a big-ass commercial that at the last second you find out was about something

that had nothing to do with it.

I can't do it.

This story.

I loved it.

It's perfect.

You don't like, it's how it should be.

Because at that point, you're not being duped into buying something, you're just in the

world.

You've already bought it.

You've already bought it because you're in the world of the thing.

Yeah.

But can I ask on the acting, no, on this love of acting, I was watching this feature,

this feature on the others for the criterion collection, which was it entered that a couple

of years ago.

But you were saying that you almost said no.

No, I said yes, and then I said no.

But that you also said that this is your usual process.

You kind of said that this is something that happens, not a lot, but it's...

I try not to do it now because it's incredibly frustrating and irritating for people.

But for the line producer.

For everybody.

For everybody.

For like, what?

But forget other people.

It's like, because I think you were acknowledging it as part of your process, right?

Like, oh, for anything that is kind of maybe scaring you a little bit, like that is part

of how you approach it.

You're saying you don't do it anymore now, but what was it?

No, I still do it.

OK, great.

I just do it less.

You don't wait for it.

Great, great.

You don't wait for it.

Great, great, great.

You don't need to wait for it.

You don't have to wait for it.

You don't have to wait.

You don't have to wait.

Yeah.

I'm on the road.

You're on the road.

Can you tell the...

Like, do you understand that now as a thing of this is just something about going through

it?

Well, that particularly was I was making Moulon Rouge when I agreed to do it.

So I was Satine when I read Grace.

which is, you know, the others, the character and the others.

So I had not delved psychologically into her

because I'd accepted in a different state of being.

That being said, I then arrive over there

and I'm like, oh my God, I've got to now start prepping this woman

who kills her children.

No, I don't want to do this.

Right, right.

I'm like, I don't want to do this.

I do not want to kill the children.

So then you go back to, is it killing the children or is it saving the children?

So as soon as I could shift into, oh, I'm saving the children,

even though that is so insane and crazy,

it was choosing to save them from terrible pain,

then I could motivate into the role.

Right.

Does that make sense?

And was that something you found with Alejandro?

Or is that something that you...

And with the acting coach I work with

and the way in which my whole, just my nervous system

and the way in which I approach something,

I have to feel it.

If I don't feel it, I'm going to be faking it and then I'm no good.

So I have to somehow find this weird state of being

that keeps it real even though I'm still existing in life

with my feet on the ground.

But I've got to get...

Yeah, because it comes from in here.

It comes from like...

Don't body work.

Yeah, yeah.

You have emotions in your body.

So where do you find them?

Yeah.

That's really...

I guess that's a really good thing to remember, too,

is if your body is telling your brain something,

that probably means more than you do.

Well, you know, it's a lot of times you'll go,

especially with trauma or whatever,

where do you feel it in your body?

And so it's a really great way to approach a character.

Where do you feel them in your body?

them in your body.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Yeah.

Is it here?

Is it in the chest?

What happens?

Is it in the gut?

Is it in the groin?

Is it in where is it?

Yeah.

And let's start from there.

I sound kind of crazy.

No.

No, but you don't at all, like, I feel like that, that is sort of an answer to my question

of like, what would compel you to say yes to certain scripts because, for example,

something like destroyer, or like the paper boy, it's like, you'd read these things

and be like, huh?

But then the, the, the, huh of it sort of is a guttural instinct.

And so it's not, oh, I don't feel comfortable with that.

So I'm going to say no to it.

It's, I feel uncomfortable with that.

Let me listen to that.

And shall it, bless, say, in the paper boy?

Yeah.

I mean, that was just, she's all like, she's sex.

She's wild.

Yeah.

She's all body.

She's all like, she's, you know, and I wanted to go, and we were shooting down the

end there in, um, in Louisiana and in the heat, and it's swamping while.

And that's kind of great to go and do something with Lee Daniels, do swamping while.

And Zach F.

Ron not bad.

Dancing in the rain.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sitting out in front of the prism with my feet up on the dashboard.

And it's just kind of like, yeah, she's, she's, she's a cat.

She's wild.

And then you get to be wild.

Wild.

Yeah.

People always say live a normal life and then in your imaginary life, you can do whatever

you want.

Yeah.

That's the coolest.

That's the coolest thing.

Part of your normal.

So I'm very normal.

Yes.

Well, part of your normal life was going to Antarctica.

Yeah.

There's a knot.

Connected here.

We're connected.

We're connected.

We just missed each other.

We just missed each other.

We were on the same, so everyone Nicole and I were on the same vessel, but at different

times.

Mm-hmm.

I went before you.

You went before me and people on the ship, people, the, first of all, can we just shout

out the loveliest crew on the still on silver, my gosh, right?

The loveliest, loveliest people.

Yeah.

And it just felt like this wonderful, like our boat was, tell me your story.

Okay.

Had you end up in Antarctica, who were you with and why did you go?

Okay.

And then, and then would love to, to hear your version as well, of course.

Obviously.

I just got back yesterday.

Yes, yesterday.

Yesterday, because it was all so present.

I woke up this morning still feeling this way of drake passage, like my brain is still

used to like being rocked by the, by the, by the current.

So, by the big current.

By the big current.

Yeah, by the big current.

So my, it's my mom and the smell of penguins.

And the smell of penguin shit.

Yeesh.

That, that's not the most eluring smell I would have.

Don't break the majesty of the penguins.

The penguins are divine.

Gentoo penguins from the moon.

Gentoo, chinstrap.

Ooh.

We love them.

We love them.

Just not their, their, their, their excretion.

God.

You hate it.

And, and what makes you so confident in the diary?

Did you get a hockey on Diarrhea Island?

Could I called it?

And what a question.

And Diarrhea Island.

That was Diarrhea Island.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm going to just stay down here.

I don't need to see those chicks, those penguins.

I was calling it Diarrhea Island.

Nicole Bar.

And our whole family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cause it was Diarrhea Island.

I saw no ice.

Yeah.

Just Diarrhea Island.

I have to say.

Oh, you missed that.

That stomachs must not have been upset.

No, no, they were upset.

He didn't bring this up.

We'll know.

No, but this is, this is just a sidebar.

Antarctica is gorgeous.

We don't have to know.

We don't have to make it.

Let's make it.

The main bar.

This is Diarrhea Island is the, the topic of the rest of the episode.

I never, never going to hook a diarrhea Island.

I already was never going to go to Antarctica.

It's, I don't think it's for me.

It, this is a small little section where there was a few penguins that had ups its

stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

But beyond that.

Those are the guys.

Huh?

They're molting.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's, there's, there's, there's, there's just in a moment of just like a letting it

all go.

That I said it.

I'm hooked on it.

I just, just, just to hear, just to be asked by you, how did you go hiking on Diarrhea

Island?

Yeah.

Diarrhea Island.

But back to, the glorious, glorious, the topic of, and the sea lions and the kayaks,

King and the sea lions.

We kayaks.

Oh, yeah.

Is that not the greatest thing in the world?

It was, I was the silence.

The silence.

Oh, that's interesting.

Yeah.

It must be the most, no, it is spectacular there truly untouched.

Wow.

And the silence is unrivaled.

I mean, there is, you hear nothing.

Yeah.

And the most piece that you, I mean, it truly is, and I'm meditated on the kayak for

like five minutes and just went, I think this is the happiest I've ever been.

Now is that because of the quiet?

I think it's just everything that surrounds you there and there, it's timeless.

Yeah.

And then you're aware of the fragility of everything.

Yeah.

Wow.

I'm aware of it because you're looking out and it's like, this is untouched, un-uncorrupted

by man.

And you realize how much of our surroundings and how much of our interactions and how much

of our psychic being is ruined by man.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

It's like, it feels like you're the most in touch with nature as you ever have been.

Yeah.

Exactly.

In kayaking, the seals were abundant.

We saw a glacier sort of crumble before our eyes and people were like, oh, I mean, no,

I think that's normal.

Yeah.

I think that's normal.

It's down the first.

It's a thunderous sound.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

No, but we, so we had to go to Punta, arenas.

Yes.

Been there.

And we were held for three days.

They were about to call.

Because of the weather.

Because of the weather.

So they had to, we were like, so if they, if they pushed your trip back by three days,

they canceled the entire cruise.

So we were on day three, it was just, it was like Groundhog's Day and like, Printer

Uranus, this lovely Chilean town.

So nice.

So nice.

Yeah.

So warm.

So friendly.

So friendly.

Great food.

Great food.

Great coffee.

Great sea bass.

Anyway.

And now I'm coming around.

And we're coming around.

Did you not want to go?

I really didn't.

It was going to be.

I don't think so.

You got to go.

You got to go.

With people that are very, very, like the cruise we went on surfaces, you have to clean

everything.

I mean, they are so ecologically minded.

You have to be so careful.

Yes.

Because you can't take any of our viruses or bacteria or anything into that continent.

Yes.

You can't even, you can't even, you can't even let you kneel.

Like they won't let you crouch down.

Like they have to want.

Like everything.

Oh, yeah.

It's very regimented.

Yes.

Very, very sterile and clean.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What is the percentage?

I think it's very low.

My mom was saying it's like one percent, which is not, which gives it a bad rap.

It's like, it's not one percenters.

It's insurers who do that.

Yeah.

And you're an adventurer.

Well, it was his parents dream.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, the parents dream to go with his mother's dream to go.

Oh, you and your parents.

Yes.

I was with my parents.

Oh, and it was like a good son.

Yeah.

I love it.

Good son.

No, it was great.

Yes.

You didn't want to go, but you went.

No.

You didn't want to.

I was genuinely excited.

Just say yes.

I'm a good son.

I'm a good son.

You have six continents now, right?

Yes.

I'm on six.

You didn't do.

You haven't done seven.

I haven't done seven.

So I was stolen by what I held up.

Which continent have you not done?

I am dying to go to Africa.

Right.

And he's still having gone.

I need Africa and Antarctica.

Yes.

And in Antarctica was, well, but this is just to say that like we, so then we're like,

oh, we lost your days, but we're on the ship.

This is great.

And then I had to fly back in time to do the actor awards.

But then they kept pushing the dates out of King because did you fly in or did you cross

strike passage?

We flew in.

So we can do that.

So we can do that.

Yeah.

We heard about this.

King George Island.

Crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So then we got the other, the flip side of it on the way back, which is we're sailing

break passage, which is where the Atlantic and the Pacific meet, the hardest waters.

Oh, what happens if you don't, if you can't fly out, you, you do have to cross it.

You do have to cross the path.

I did not know that.

I didn't do my full research.

No.

And so when they broke the news to us, the room erupted and equal cheers and groans of agony.

Yeah.

We were about this.

We had it.

We were held for an extra day.

Yes.

And there was tears of joy and tears of, I've got to get back.

I've got a job to do.

I'm going to lose my job.

We got to get off this boat.

So how did you and the daughters, how did you guys react to that to being held in that

place?

I was happy.

Okay.

And now you're a cruise person.

You said on that.

And then I was like, but I got to get off.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There comes a point.

I can do one day, maybe two days, but not.

I've got to get back.

So I think you and I are the same, but I'm a cruise person now.

Are you really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

You have two more planned.

Oh, yeah.

With silver sea.

No.

Okay.

One with silver sea.

Great.

They're lovely.

And one with rich cotton.

Oh, fine.

And the amount of tears.

I'm trying more.

Yeah.

I'm ready.

I'm ready.

But my daughters, because there's only two of them, they're like, we want our family.

So my sister has six kids.

They have partners.

They all.

So I bring everyone.

And then my best friend since I was four, all her children and their partner, it's just

we have a big tribe that we travel with.

And we're all like with, and then Katie, who's here, is like my sister.

So we have like this huge tribe of people.

Yeah.

And there's two women that work with me, who've worked with me for years, who are also

like my sister.

So it's like, come on.

We go.

Let's go.

Yeah.

No, there's no better way to bring people.

No, there's no better way to bring people.

No, there's no better way to bring people.

No, there's no better way to bring people.

I grew up in a family where we travel in big groups.

Yeah.

And we would do things in big groups.

So it's very comforting to me.

Yeah.

So if I'm in the position to be able to share and do it, of course, I'm doing it.

I will work so hard so I can play hard.

Yeah.

And also it's like we were talking before the episode started about like why you'd really

watch something you've already seen or do something for me.

It's often like I want to watch other people experience this thing.

You know what I mean?

Like sometimes I don't know what that is, but it's like, maybe there's something to

it for you and wanting everyone to be together.

It's like we're going to have an experience together.

And I really do enjoy the, I don't know what that would be called, but that's sort of like

transference that happens when someone else is having a moment of awe and wonder or whatever

the emotion is.

Yeah.

You might be able to anticipate it yourself, but that's like, that's that's a thing.

It's a thing.

It's a thing.

It's why I love throwing parties and giving gifts.

Yeah.

I love doing that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm a party girl.

Yeah.

What did I say?

I said once to somebody and my kids were making fun of me.

Oh, I love small dinner parties, but I also love a rave.

Yeah.

And I like does not go together, Mom.

And I'm like, for me.

It does.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You, how do you feel?

Do people still come up to you and bring up basement as sort of a cultural, like touch

to now in a post baby girl society?

Yeah.

Baby girl hit.

We thought it was going to be speak to older women primarily.

Uh-huh.

It hit a younger generation and gay men in a way that I had no idea what would happen.

Oh, the milk was huge.

Milk is back now because of it.

I had a glass of milk at dinner the other day.

Good.

Yeah.

I just locked out of my waiter.

No, I literally did.

But it was fascinating.

Uh-huh.

What people related to in that film.

We thought it was a very, very, very niche thing.

Yeah.

And it actually kind of, it moved, it, it had tentacles that spread wide.

And then in the same way that big little lies reached sort of a particular group of people,

baby girl did.

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah.

Because it's unexpected to me.

Yeah.

Of course.

Yeah.

But I loved dancing in baby girl down there in that basement.

Oh, so good.

And we started and I came out of that with COVID and the flu.

A double whammy.

That's where it goes down.

That's where it went down.

And how did it come back that you just ran all the tests?

I got so sick and they, and I knew going in.

I was like, oh, yeah, I'm, I'm going down here.

I can just feel it.

It's the middle of winter and it's running rampant right now.

So oh, well, baby girl, baby girl went down.

Baby girl dropped.

Baby girl dropped down to hurt on all fours.

She fell on all fours.

Yeah.

Not even on all fours flat on my back.

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Now we have to ask you the question, which is the central question of our podcast,

Nicole Kidman.

Yes.

What was the culture that made you say culture was for you?

This can be a film you saw, a musical artist, something atmospheric.

No, I'm going to tell you, couture.

Couture.

Couture.

Thank you.

Yeah.

It actually was because all my dreams were based on it.

Yeah.

Like the clothes and fashion and my mom would say, look at that and look how it's made

and look.

So from Audrey Hepburn to Grace Kelly to all the different houses, Javon, share all

of them.

I, that's what culturally for me made me dream.

Wow, fashion.

Oh, I grew up loving it.

Yeah.

I somehow stumbled into being exposed to it, standing there with Galeano

fitting dresses on me and Lagerfeld fitting dresses on me and being on the cover of

Vogue and, and having access to the most beautiful things to wear on your body.

When did that start?

It was little because I was, I would stand on a table and my grandmother would make all

my clothes, but not kind of just have hazard put them together like hours and hours and

hours.

Couture.

So call us on and little fur and a little trim and some ribbons.

Everything was, yeah, couture.

So I was baby couture.

I was like, yeah, and I would stand there for hours because I wanted to wear the clothes.

Do you remember the first?

And then I addressed my Bobby in couture clothes because my grandmother would make my

Bobby clothes.

Oh, yeah.

So I had clothes for my Bobby that nobody had.

Of course.

The Barbie.

And even my Kindle had some clothes for me.

Yeah.

This is before Shalame.

So when do you, do you remember the first designer or like artist in the fashion world

that you worked with directly and you felt like, oh, this is a moment for me in terms

of an entry into the fashion world?

I mean, the first one was John Galliano.

And I was shooting eyes wide shot.

And so I was able to go over to Paris regularly and I would stand there for them and they would

try things on me and try different fabrics and then I would go in and try on the hats

and then I would go to Carl's house.

Then it sort of just was, you know, it was just a bridge and from that point on, I was

and you have really, they don't come to you.

You have to go to them and you have to be willing to be a mannequin, like a model and

just stand there and and let them, let them design to you.

And because I'd been so tall and skinny my whole life, suddenly there was a reason to

be tall and skinny.

I want it always to be short and curvy.

And so suddenly it was like, oh, I can be tall and skinny and somebody doesn't mind that.

And there's a purpose.

I mean, what are you anticipating?

Like, can you utilize it?

Of course.

Of course.

Are you anticipating anything in particular with my Gala this year as being part of the

host committee?

Like, because I feel like it's such a pivotal year for the Gala.

I just get to be there with Beyonce.

Oh, perfect.

That's all that matters.

That's it.

That's it.

Yeah.

I'm done.

Here we go.

So Julie, is it a thing where you guys, do you discuss, do you get, like, as being part

of the host committee?

Yeah.

We work with Anna, and who is iconic, because we're the last year.

And a genius.

No, she's staying on.

Yeah.

To always chair the Gala.

The Gala.

Okay.

Yeah.

We need Anna.

We do.

Yeah.

We need Anna.

Anna has created so many people's careers.

She's a massive supporter of art and fashion and women.

I mean, she's extraordinary.

And so therefore, to be able to, and it's, this is, I think it's the third.

Third time I've coached had.

I think.

Yeah.

So, but to do it now, I'm so, so happy.

And my daughter, Sunday, will be coming.

Oh, amazing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's so fun.

Uh-huh.

That's another thing you get to do with your daughter.

That's incredible.

Yeah.

And she loves fashion.

She's actually just walked the Dior show.

Mm-hmm.

She's just, yeah.

She's flying back from Paris now.

Oh, my God.

That's the first.

I know.

Which I don't need to do with.

It's her.

And her relationship and she and Jonathan Anderson and, yeah, it's incredible.

I was thinking as you were talking, like, you mentioned Grace Kelly who you got to portray.

You mentioned Audrey Hepburn, who obviously invigilized you guys all get to do with

Audrey Hepburn.

And I did re-figure.

And then as Marilyn, who, of course, I'll always be in love with Mary.

I mean, yes.

And also, I wanted to ask about Lucille Ball, because I think that that's one of my favorite

performances you've ever done.

You really did capture just, like, her, like, relentless commitment to getting it right.

Yeah.

And I wonder if that's something that you connected with that was it, like, she, she's

a hard worker than me.

She knew what she wanted.

Yeah.

She had to be.

She came in an era when she had to be such a trial blazer.

She had to, she was so brilliant that her and comedy is detail.

So as she would say, comedy is detail, you can't be generalized, you can't be haphazard.

Sometimes you'll stumble on a joke, but if you're really doing comedy and comedy every

week that has to deliver time and time again, then that is arduous, hard, technical, skilled

work.

Yeah.

It's not just fly by night, give it a, give it a whirl, you know?

And that's what, that's what I learned from playing her.

She was also an amazing businesswoman at a time when they were not women at the helm.

And she had a very, you know, complicated love relationship and she loved him.

And, and she was this, you know, just extraordinary being.

So to be able to play her, whether I looked like her or not, I was able to capture her voice

at least and her mannerisms.

And then it was like I couldn't get rid of her and she was in me.

But it was so fun and half the stuff that we prepared and everything was not in the

film.

So really?

Yeah, yeah.

Maybe that's the staging of the comedy scenes.

That's really cool.

Yeah.

So I could do every movement, every single movement, like by I studied and studied and

studied and with a movement, like we did so much prep and then a tiny bit of it is in

there.

But that's, that's performance you have to do.

An enormous amount of work and maybe it makes the cut or maybe it doesn't.

It can't be attached to it.

Kind of complicated theater that was doing sitcom at the time that I guess you have experience

doing.

But like, gosh, and we're talking about it because I completely agree and I was, it's

funny.

I was even watching being the Ricardo's when I had Omicron and I had to miss my only

SNL, which was that, which was that episode in December 2021, but it was watching you

and it did just give me this, it just, just downloaded me with this notion that like,

you have to, comedy is logistics.

It's more, do you say earlier comedy is detail?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's all in the details.

It's all in the details.

And then where's the laugh?

Where's the laugh?

Okay.

There it is.

No.

And they, we're lucky because they have the live studio audience.

Yeah.

So they had the feedback.

I think it must be so hard trying to do that without that because this is like, okay,

great.

We know that works.

We know that.

It's like when you do theater and you go, great.

That's working.

Right.

Or you're surprised at what works.

And then you go, jeez, I feel that wasn't going to work and that just landed.

I know.

We'll do that.

Save that.

Then we can lay at that now.

Now we can add and add and add.

There's also nothing more distracting than an artificial laugh track.

Like some of, some of the multi cams that they do now where you can tell there's an artificial

laugh track.

Yeah.

I don't think we, I mean, we probably didn't need it because it's just, you, we know from

years of growing up on that, like, right.

That's like watching an AI video.

It's like, I know the artifice here.

Yeah.

Yeah, a little off in terms of the, the volume of the reaction of the timing of the

reaction.

I mean, but you've never hosted SNL before, haven't you?

Back in the 90s, you did.

Oh, oh, oh.

Yeah.

I did.

Does this motivate you to do it?

Did any of that motivate you?

Or are you?

Yeah.

We'd love to do it again.

Oh, you sure?

It's just a lot of work.

Yeah.

It is.

It's a lot of work.

And it's about sort of, gosh, it's because I was going to say it's, it's about relinquishing

the control, but also being so, just so facetious with it, too.

I'm happy to relinquish control to people that know what they're doing.

So I would be happy to come back and do it and try stuff and just play because really

it is playing, right?

Yeah.

But, um, but it's also when you have two kids and you live in Nashville and you work and

you've got a whole other, it's, it's a lot to commit to, but it would, I mean, it's

an honor if you're ever asked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Bow down.

I would like, I would so love to.

I'm sort of ready now because I'm also at a place where I go, yeah, let's do it.

Give it a try.

Yeah.

Before flat on your face.

It's okay.

Get back up.

Right.

You guys got your diarrhea island.

Yeah.

You have no idea where I've been and what it's smell like or that smell is a particular smell.

Yeah.

I'm not reputable anymore.

I'm very, very smell sensitive.

I'll take care of you.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Get to this part of my personality.

You have a heightened smell.

Yeah.

Well, you did.

My response.

Yeah.

My response.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm either drawn to or drawn away based on a smell.

Thank God.

You're still here.

It's okay.

It's okay.

You made me laugh and I love you both and I love how you smell.

Check this out.

This is good.

Really good.

Really good.

Okay.

So I do, we have to ask you this other thing, which is so we've had Reese and Laura

here.

Yes.

My girls.

The best.

My girls.

The best time with both of them.

Reese came in and she didn't impression of you.

Oh, no.

Yeah, I've heard it.

And that's wrong.

Laura came in and didn't impression of Reese.

So we have to know if you have a lawyer in a way that you definitely do.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now.

Oh.

Let's talk about this.

Yes.

This is happening.

Yes.

Right.

I know.

Yes.

It's the warmest, most responsive and you go.

She gets me.

Oh.

She's resonating from her spirit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That is love.

Wow.

Right.

Yeah.

It is love.

Isn't it?

And then she said.

Corners.

Like it's a little bit at the elbows.

You know what I mean?

It's from here.

You're saying?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

But seeing those two together, watching them improv.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

Oh my God.

They should actually have their own improv show.

They are hilarious.

We were laughing.

Yeah.

But you haven't seen them take gather.

No.

When they throw it back.

I mean, they're both brilliant comedians.

Yes.

Brilliant.

And then I just worked with one of the other brilliant comedians of my generation and Sandy

Bullock.

Oh.

I'm going on.

Come on to magic too.

Yeah.

I have to say.

I mean, those women on it.

Of course.

Diode.

Come on.

Yeah.

And Julia.

Julia Roberts.

Oh, of course.

The great comedians of their generation.

Can we not sleep on your performance and just go with it, please?

Okay.

Because there are people I know.

And I'm going to shout them out, Jared Frieder, who says that's Nicole's best.

Yes.

Just go with it.

You don't have, you have no idea how many.

And Matthews were on dancing on this.

And you've got to.

You want to do that, everyone.

You haven't done.

It's amazing.

It's really incredible.

Yeah.

I was in Hawaii with Adam Sandler and Jen.

I mean, just Jen.

Come on.

Can it get better than that?

Yeah.

And Dave Matthews.

We're going to get you on the morning show.

Yeah.

We're going to get you in there with recent Jen on the morning show.

In all my spare time.

I do have a question about how you do all of it.

Do you think you're calendaring?

Are you booked through December at this point?

I actually know.

You're not?

No.

I'm not.

Is that a purposeful choice for this year?

Yeah.

I'm open as of this summer.

Who?

I'm just like, I'm going, okay.

What's coming my way?

I do not know.

We have this for you.

We have this for you.

I'm not.

But I've got some holidays planned.

There we go.

Yeah.

All about the vacation.

Yes.

Right?

So I got a cruise planned.

Yes.

Where are you going?

Can you share?

I can't tell.

I'll tell you what.

I'll tell you what.

I'm going to Thailand for the first time.

Oh, lovely.

Oh, yeah.

I love Thailand.

Yeah.

Never been.

Been all over Thailand.

I do feel like for some reason.

I am.

I filmed in Thailand.

Oh, yeah.

It's very pretty.

Twice.

I did Bankelkilton when I was really, really young.

And then I did a film railway man.

Oh, yes.

Yes.

No, you don't know that.

I don't think I can tell.

No, yeah.

Oh, yes.

Yes.

Yes.

I called you on it.

Yes.

Yes.

I'm happy you did.

I can't.

You can't watch it all.

Who?

But no, I'm excited because I do feel like it's this weird random thing that keeps happening

where I end up going on a vacation to wherever the last white lotus was.

Wait a minute.

We were just sleeping.

Thank you, Mike White.

Thank you, Mike White.

Where's he going next?

Where did he say he's going?

Well, as you should get ahead of it.

He's going to get his hands.

He's going to get his hands.

It's, it's, it's can.

Oh, lovely.

Did you know that?

No.

That's the rumor.

Far out.

Yeah.

That's going to throw down, right?

Yeah.

Let's go.

What's going to happen?

What's going to happen?

Well, he says he's a genius.

Wow.

There was an interview he did the other day where he said the interview deals some with celebrity

and about people who are comfortable being seeking out a love that is more than just

with one other person.

They need a love of something larger and about answering that question of why and about

how people can feel when they're in a relationship with someone who needs more love than just

one person can provide.

Really interesting.

And I, I think that like, you know, obviously, there's going to be some ego and stuff.

Well, that comes back to that person is not satiated with themselves, right?

Yeah.

Of course.

They're not in love with themselves.

Right.

So what are you feeling like that?

Probably.

Yeah.

They're not at peace.

So that's a pretty, you're, I mean, you're going to face.

You're going to have to face the, the reality of what this life is at some point.

So whether you're going to allow yourself to come to that place or whether you're just

going to get felt by it, right?

Totally.

It's a choice.

So you can do the work to actually try to, and it's never done, but you can always be

going, okay, what do I do here?

How do I, what, what is the next chapter, particularly when you get to a certain stage in life?

It's like, okay, where am I at now with who I am and am I okay being alone?

Because as soon as you're okay with, and when I say being alone, like really being

alone, it's not just being alone for a couple of days in your, in your apartment.

It's am I okay with being alone?

There will be nobody there when I die.

Is that going to be okay?

Are you, you know, you can't, you don't know.

Of course.

At one point, you've got to just face the facts.

It's a, which is about what?

You're a guy.

You got to be like, geez.

No.

It's about it.

We're right there.

True.

I think about a lot.

Because that's dark.

Yeah.

Three a.m. in the morning when you wake up and you are alone, well, that then is like,

okay, this is where I have to be at peace.

And being a piece is just about like assigning meaning to, if, if the meaning you're assigning

to your life is not like deleterious in some aspect to your vitality.

It's like, it's like this thing of like, if you were, if your love has to involve the

love of other people in this way that is a little grotesque or untenable or unsustainable,

it's like that is going to eat away at something.

You have to find, you've just switched gears and find a different reason to like be alive

and to give yourself meaning besides this thing that is not healthy for you.

You can't give you what you're needing from it.

Never will.

Never.

Never.

Mike White.

And you think me, do you ever watch any reality television because he's fully on survivor

right now?

You didn't know this.

Mike White is a survivor contestant.

He came in second.

Oh, I'm so happy to tell you this.

He came in second on a season of survivor years ago, post him being a well known Hollywood

writer way after, you know, school of rock and then lightened and all of that.

He went on survivor came in second place in a tough, like, do you have to eat something?

I'm sure it's important to do.

You got it.

You got to live.

You got to do the tribal council.

The votes all that came in second place, and now he's on the 50th season where they've

brought back all the icons of the show.

And I guess somehow he fit into his schedule going out there for nearly 30 days and competing

on survivor.

He's on it right now.

How's he doing?

Well, it's only one week, but so far, so good.

And his whole narrative in the first episode was he turned off and he had like this

ripped body.

And everyone was like, Mike White, but I was like, I mean, man, it's got a Hollywood

trainer.

There you go.

But that was the whole narrative on the first episode was, oh my god, he's ripped.

That's crazy.

I had no idea.

Yeah.

Wow.

Yeah.

But you watch everything about reality TV.

No, I sometimes watch reality TV.

I've watched it with my daughters and I've been like, oh, no, this is too much.

Turn it off.

What are they into?

Oh, I'm not allowed to talk about what they're into or anything.

Oh, yeah.

I'm too, what I get called millennial.

So, um, join the club where you're in the right place.

So, and that is not a compliment.

Right.

Not from a teenager, right?

But you do have reputation like, like for watching a lot, like Reese does the impression

of you being like, we have to get this to that.

But I watch films and I watch.

Yeah, I got to.

I'm, I'm like, I'm like, who is this, yeah, I'm like, who is this over here in Norway

right now?

What?

Over here.

Yeah, I'm like, I love to, that I've grown up doing that.

I would go and I would sit in a dark there and I would watch subtitle films since I was

little.

Yeah.

It was my access to the world.

And I also wanted to raise global children.

Right.

So, that's why my kids have been to seven continents.

That's amazing.

As of two weeks ago or three weeks ago.

Yeah.

Crazy, right?

But they hit seven at what ages?

She's 15, the youngest.

Oh, wow.

17.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

Because now they got to go round two.

We have to find a new continent.

We got to.

There is the moon.

There is the moon.

There is the moon.

The 8th continent, the moon.

It's actually rule of culture number 15.

The 8th continent.

The moon.

There is the moon.

The 8th continent.

The moon.

Well, I'm trying to think if they before we do, I don't think so honey, if there's anything

else I need to pick our guest.

Oh, no.

The next question I don't like, pick brain.

Pick brain.

Yeah.

You can pick my brain.

Pick my heart.

Pick your heart.

Oh.

Okay.

Wait.

You know that you have one of the most iconic Vogue 73 questions.

I do.

You do.

I did not know.

See?

My six cell packets.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's only four now.

There's only four.

Oh, I'm so sorry.

Are we going to get two new ones?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We got to keep it.

Six cell packets.

Oh yes.

We got to keep that.

We were both able to make that real.

As we said.

I said we did a lot of things.

We couldn't put my hands on hearing.

A lot of things were going to fix this day.

We did not stop clearly but we said it 10 minutes ago.

Our squad is ourselves doing a good job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But,

we had to let go.

Yeah.

We were

Since we start first.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Five.

Yeah yeah.

Four.

Byron.

It's a long day, but you kind of play and yeah, but you walked all through my country estate.

I love it. It was beautiful. It's different now. Okay. Yeah. I've redesigned it.

I really did it. You might need another 73 questions there. Yeah, we have to go back. We'll do it.

Nothing. There's more animal do it. Yeah, more animals. There you go. There we go.

There's a reason to return. Take care of it. Go to any questions. There's a minute to go. It's now.

Oh, perfect. Oh, to die for the first time. Two horses. Two horses. You didn't meet the horses.

No, we didn't get to see that many, many more. No, because he had never. Okay. So he had a blind spot,

which was my stuff out there. He had a blind spot, which is to die for, which was a lot.

I've seen to die. No, he's seen it now. I love to die for. I love Suzanne Stone.

Suzanne Stone, I feel like. Suzanne Stone is a killer. Yeah, but I love her for a pretty killer.

She was a gorgeous killer, but I have to say, like, there's just something again. Maybe it is just.

It's Buck Henry and Gus. I can't believe that. Yeah. Yeah. And Gus. Yeah. Buck Henry for everyone.

If you saw the graduate, he wrote the graduate. And he's one of the great, great writers. And then

Gus, Vincent, what can we say? I also shout out to obviously Joaquin, but Iliana Douglas.

Oh, amazing in that movie. And gets lost in the conversation of great performances from that

era. That's a great performance. Well, she already a skater when you guys saw she couldn't

get. She said she could skate. Hey, we're at it. I love it. Can you ice skate? Absolutely. Absolutely.

I can. And then she was on the ice. That's so good. That's so good. She made it look good.

Yeah. So good in the movie. She in a double. She in a double. But no, but she did. She got there.