Short Stuff: The S7VEN Deadly Sins

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Hey, and welcome to the short stuff I'm Josh Jerry's here for Dave, and we're talking

today about the Seven Deadly Zins.

Seven Deadly Zins?

Did I say Zins?

That's a wine brand.

It is.

I was thinking it's pretty bold to label your wine as deadly.

Uh, yeah, good point.

Never thought about that.

But I think what they're, I think they're able to because the Seven Deadly Zins are so

widely known that people don't normally stop and think it says deadly on this wine label

because they know that they're talking about something else.

That's right.

It's a pretty widespread thing if you've seen the movie Seven, obviously, very prominent

in that.

It's just a big thing in pop culture.

It was even a sort of interpretation of Gilligan's Island, which I had never really been

too acquainted with.

Oh, you haven't?

It's a, it's a, it's a fan theory.

Yeah.

Apparently, Sherwood Schwartz is kind of backed up in some ways, but that the professor is

pride.

And of course, we're also going over the list of the Zins with this list.

Professor is pride.

The skipper is anger or wrath.

Ginger, obviously, lust.

Mr. Howell obviously greed misses how gluttony and partially sloth is what this says.

Marianne is in being then, of course, Gilligan is sloth, and he's the one that is keeping

them trapped on the island through his sloth.

Yeah.

There are some really great fan theories around Gilligan's Island.

Not just that one.

Yeah.

I love that stuff.

It's fun.

I do too.

But yeah, that's the Seven Deadly Sins, the skipper and the rest.

They haven't always been called the Seven Deadly Sins, and as a matter of fact, Seven is

a trimmed down version of the original eight.

They've been called everything from the Capitol Vices, Cardinal Sins, Capitol Sins.

Yeah.

Vice Sins, I think, if you want to combine everything together, and the Roman Catholics

are nuts for this kind of stuff.

And over the centuries, as the church has evolved, the whole thing has just kind of been

whittled down or changed.

There've been different names.

I think pride used to be called vangloriousness or vanglory.

Instead of sloth, they had melancholy, like basically don't be sad.

Regardless of how totally associated it is with Catholicism and Christianity in general,

it actually doesn't appear in the Bible.

Yeah, that's right.

By the way, I think vanglory is probably already a band name, but that would be a pretty good

band name.

Metal.

For sure.

Oh, yeah.

Absolutely.

Or unless it's, yeah, yeah.

Or I was going to say probably like a nickel-back type of thing, maybe.

No.

Whatever that is.

Whatever kind of music that is.

I don't even know what category that is.

I don't either.

I put nickel-back, but I think they're one of like the richest bands on the planet.

Oh, I'm sure.

Anyway, vanglory coming to a theater near you, or a concert venue near you.

Okay.

But you could also call it theater.

I'm getting sidetracked.

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And back to the Seven Deadly Sins, I believe you said, if you look in the Bible, you're

not going to find them.

And that's because they're not really in the Bible.

The original sin, when Old Adam and Eve there in the Garden of Eden, in that book, were

described as disobeying God and establishing the sinful nature of humanity.

But there's not a list of, like the 10 commandments are in there, but the Seven Deadly Sins are

not in there.

The Seven Deadly Sins came to be because of a particular writer who was a monk in

345 CE named Evagrius Ponticus, which means Evan the Pontiac in English.

No.

Okay.

According to me, at least.

That's right.

But he was the guy that gets credit, basically, as the first person to kind of write these

things out and get it out on mass.

Yeah.

But he had eight of them, the eight evil thoughts, right?

Yeah.

He was a theologian of monk who really put his money where his mouth is.

The last several years of his life, he went out and wandered around the desert in Egypt

and lived on herbs and barley, essentially.

He prayed.

He fasted.

He meditated.

He did his best to not think any unholy thoughts, but that was more difficult than you'd

think.

And he wrote a bunch of this stuff down in the antireticus, which is his celebrated master

work.

And this is where the eight evil thoughts first appear.

That's right.

Gluttony lust.

And of course, we're not talking just sexual lust here.

It's kind of lusty desires for worldly things, greed, which was averse at the time.

Anger, sloth, sadness, vain glory and pride are all in there.

Yeah.

And although we now think of the seven deadly sins as applying to everybody, that's not

at all what Evan was doing at first.

So he basically was creating this list of what to avoid if you're a monk, essentially.

That's who it applied to initially.

Yeah.

Like, if you really want to walk the walk like me, these are the things you need to avoid.

And I promise I'm not thinking of them.

I'm just writing about them.

That's right.

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Yeah.

Okay.

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All right, Chuck.

So Evagrius Ponticus basically created these seven deadly sins or eight deadly sins as

a road map for monks.

And then some other people came along a couple centuries later and like, this is great.

How can we upscale this and really get the most out of it in our corporate world?

And one of the first people to do this was St. Gregory.

The great who later became, or no, I guess probably first was Pope Gregory.

The first.

Yeah.

Oh, and he became St.

Later.

Has to be.

I don't think anybody has ever been St.

Yeah, you can't be St.

And while you're alive, because you have to perform at least two miracles after your

death.

Yeah.

That's right.

Well, boy, you really remember that stuff.

I do.

I do remember some of it.

Yeah.

Nice work.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So Pope Gregory I, before he was a pope, wrote his masterwork.

And it was basically sort of a real dissection of the book of Job called Moralia in Job.

And it was a very influential book.

And this is where his seven principal vices were laid out.

And we're not going to read all the sort of gobbity book, but it was, you know, Vanglory,

envy, anger, melancholy, avers, gluttony, and lust, and then sort of deeper definitions

of what all those meant back then.

Yeah.

And like all the terrible behaviors that come out of it, right?

So like, like, like, reveling in your neighbor's misfortune kind of thing.

Like, like, these are the, these are what you want to avoid, right?

And a few centuries after that in the medieval era, other Christian writers that come, like

Thomas Aquinas, really latched on to this.

And you're like, this is great.

Like why didn't we think of this stuff earlier?

And one of the things that, that kind of became popular to get this across as a conception

is called the Tree of Vices.

It's an icon with pride as the root of this tree.

And then the rest of the deadly sins kind of coming off as branches.

And it became very familiar because you would paint this on the wall of your church somewhere.

Yeah.

And then you're painting it on the wall of the church is because you had to confess

these particular kind of sins at least once a year and then do whatever pendants the local

priest told you to do for them.

Or if you didn't do that, they're deadly because they were deadly for your mortal soul.

And after that, you would, after you die, you would go to hell.

That's why they're called deadly sins.

It's not like they kill you here on earth.

They kill you spiritually after you die.

So to confess those sins, though, you had to know what they were and that's why they

would paint the tree of vices on the church wall.

Yeah.

That for some reason struck me as funny.

It was the fourth Lateran Council in 1214 where you got to confess two times a year.

That's where that came from.

And I just love the idea of people are like, well, all right, what are the sins?

And I'll let you know if I did any of them.

That's right.

Yeah.

You just go up and like trace your finger and be like, oh, I guess I did that.

I did revel in my neighbor's mixture that time you stepped into a bear trap.

Oh my God.

I thought that was hilarious.

That's right.

The Germans would have a name for that one day.

So people were pretty obsessed, you know, during the black death of what happened after

you died.

I mean, people were already having to hell.

What's in a brand new thing?

But that's when it was like people are dying all over the place and like, where are we

going?

Like, we're really kind of worried about this.

So it became very ubiquitous talking about sins, talking about life after death.

Those became obsessed with it.

It was in the Canterbury tales in the form of the Parsons tale.

And so it was just kind of really latched on the seven deadly sins in particular as kind

of the hot thing in Catholicism.

Yeah.

And it's still around in Catholicism, apparently in 2008, the Catholic church, we're like,

hey, we've updated some more seven deadly sins for the odds.

I guess it's probably how they put it.

Modification is one, carrying out experiments on humans, polluting the environment, causing

social injustice, sure, causing poverty, becoming obscenely wealthy, and then of course, taking

drugs.

Yeah.

It doesn't seem like a deadly sin.

Yeah.

Well, you know, they were on a roll.

So those are the seven modern deadly sins.

Is that how they're framing it?

That's what they tell me at the very end.

Fantastic.

Well, I guess that's about it.

Go forth and look out for the seven deadly sins, I guess.

Yeah, don't do this.

Yeah.

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