Should Aaron Boone Get Manager Of The Year Consideration? | 'The Bret Boone Podcast'

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1:24Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Day on the program, I sit down with the three-time gold glubber. Bradley, we're getting old. We forget about our time as players. Former manager of the Tigers and the Angels currently. He is the bench coach for New York Yankees. Ladies and gentlemen, Brad Osmos, Brad, I appreciate you coming on, man. You got it, Brad. Good to be here. Okay, I've got to set this up and you'll know where I'm going in a second. But those of you listening watching the Bret Boone podcast,

2:27Brad and myself played against each other for a lot of years. We live in a similar area in Southern California down in the Delmar area. Recently retired, there was a group of us. I got a call from Brad Osmos. Boone, what's up? Hey, how you doing? You want to play some hoops? And I said, I said, what are you talking about? You want to play hoops? I think it was early, I don't know, 2010, 11 right in there. I said, what are you talking about? He goes, well, we're getting the guys together. We're going to, you know, play in this wreck league down at the Bay Club, which is a club in our area. And my first thought was, is he crazy? But I'm thinking, no, it might be fun getting the guys together. It's going to be a 40-in-over league. I'll wear my knee pads. Because, you know, my knee's hurt. So we get it together. And if I correct me if I'm wrong, here's who I had. The Giles Brothers came who were like the Hansen Brothers from Slap Shot.

3:27Hey, hotte, kate, hoffi, yourself. I think Loretta, and who else, who am I missing? We had a couple guys that didn't, that were never players in the Major League. That's kind of an actor. Yeah, Ben Reed, who, yeah, he's an actor, still lives in San Diego area. I knew him because our daughters went to school together. And then there was a couple other guys that were from the Bay Club that I had met. But yeah, I think it was 2011. It was my first year out of, out of playing. And I'd always loved playing basketball on them thinking, I wouldn't get some former big leagueers, athletes. You know, they should be able to hold their own. And we got absolutely trucked him that league. You know what was great though, is we play against each other a long time. And it's one thing being on a baseball field and how we go at it. But I'm thinking, okay, we're retired. These guys are going to, you guys were, you guys were lunatic.

4:27I think Loretta, Mark Loretta was not crazy. He was kind of like me, like, give me off the court. You should have seen the look in your eyes. Hoffee, I had no clue. Hoffee wanted to win that bag. Cotsay wanted to win. And then Giles, they were just the Giles brothers. Like I expected them to be. But I remember everybody getting mad. And the funny thing about it was, was the other team that we, whoever the team we put. I remember one time walking into that gym. And I'm seeing this big like 610 guy. He's got a San Diego State jersey. It looked like he looked like he was still playing a San Diego state. And I mean, he's just, he's dunking in the lane. And we're just sitting out at the three point. Try, try and to make a shot. Did it, was that what I didn't expect that. I thought it was going to be the 40 and over. We're going to be fine. But you're right. We just got, we just got killed every time out. What are your thoughts looking back on that? Well, that was a, you know, I hadn't played basketball since high school.

5:32And really at the time in high school, basketball was kind of my first love. I was just better at baseball. And that flipped eventually. But I always said, I'm going to, I'm going to play basketball again when I get done with my baseball career. So that was the first year, the first year out that we did that team. And there's, there's no doubt. Because I played for about eight or nine more years in that league. And there's no doubt it's, there's former college players. San Diego State, there was a few players from there. Actually, at one point, and now I'm forgetting his name. He was a wide out with the Saints. God, I can't remember his name. Really good wide receiver in the NFL for a long time. He played and absolutely dominated the league. But I enjoyed it. Even though we got trough, that team kind of disbanded. The former Major League Baseball, now basketball team disbanded. And I just kind of joined up with some, some other guys that were in there. And I played, like I said, eight or nine years.

6:34I think COVID, when COVID hit, that was the last time I played. Because, and the thing about it was, is we were freshly retired. So we kind of, you know, people knew who we were. So I mean, that other team would come gunning for us. Like, oh, these old men, ex-players, they don't have a chance. Remember, I got to call, I think it was from you. And you go, oh, we got the playoffs coming up. I said, how the hell were we in the playoffs? Everybody makes the playoffs. And I remember a playoff game. I think we went into halftime. And it was something ridiculous, like 53 to 7. And I think the other team kind of looked at us. And we were looking at it around like, hey, should we just wave? And I think we just called it off. And we were done. And that's the last time I stepped foot in the gym. It was, it was amazing though. But it was fun watching. I remember you used to get mad. Katsay would get pissed when he'd get fouled. And then he could he go back at the other end. And I remember he made a, he made a layup on a fast break, got fouled and kind of

7:35threw the guy into the boards and then and won. And I kind of looked around like, what are we doing here? But it was, it was, it was fun. I had a good time with it. Yeah, I definitely brought out the competitive streak in me. That over that eight or nine years of playing, it kind of mellowed as, as I got to know the guys a little bit more and just old age kind of taking hold. Like I just, it's not that important that we win this game. It's just for fun. Yeah, because I think I'm pretty competitive when it comes to, you're, you're, you're, you're partner over there, Aaron, my brother. He's as competitive as, as anyone I've ever seen with anything. And he was like that growing up. Now, as we got, as we played, you know, as we got older and, and played against each other in the big leagues, we were competitive from a team standpoint. I mean, when, when my team was playing his team, even last year, when, when we came to New York and I was with Texas, man, I wanted to beat you guys so bad. And I'm sure vice versa on Aaron side,

8:37but from, from a, from a player to player perspective, we never had that. Once we, once we were adults, we never really had that competitive. We were always more like supporters of one another versus, I'm going to get four hits that, and I hope you get none. It was never like that with us, but from a team aspect, and still is, he always, he wants to win. And I want to win. Who are some of the guys, you know, I just have some guys that come to mind for me, like a John Smolts. I remember playing with him and he was like that. Not only pitching, but off the field. And it was like if we're chipping in the, you know, in the backyard, he's got to win. If we're playing golf, we're playing hoops. He was always like that. Guys, guys that you play with, who are some, who are, give me two of the most competitive guys. In your career, you've been around. You know, truthfully that I think two of the most competitive guys I've been around have been post-playing career. Now part of that maybe I just off the top of my head, I can't come up with a teammate that I play with.

9:40But Mike Trout, when I was in Anaheim and Jose Caviero, who's here with us in New York right now, they're two of the most competitive guys that have been around, like whether it's batting practice or ping pong or they just want a beachia. And it's almost borderline at all cost beachia, but they just take a lot of pride of winning and don't like the losing side of it. But they might be two of the more competitive. And it's probably why they're big league players, you know, Trout is one of the best players in the game. And maybe that's part of it is the drive he has to be successful to not lose. As far as in the dugout now, you've been, is this your third year, third year in the dugout as a bench coach in New York? Well, I, in New York, yes, I was one year with Jose and, and Oakland, in Oakland, right. When I, when I watch you from afar, you always have that demeanor. You're kind

10:42of the calming presence. It seems like, it seems like that's what I want to know. Being in the dugout with Aaron. And I've had Mendoza, who was the, who was the bench coach before you, you took over in New York. What's that, what's the dynamic like for you? Is it, are you the guy that's got to kind of keep it calm and cool when Aaron? Well, it's nice now with the new rules Aaron can't get thrown out as much. But are you the calming presence over there? And with the vast, you know, you got a lot of experience. You've done this, you've been the skipper in Detroit and the skipper in Anaheim. So you've been in that number one seat now sitting at, in that two seat. How, how has that benefited you and, and what is you, how do you try to go about your role in that Yankee dugout? The thing I like most actually about the role is because you're not the manager, you can kind of have that dynamic with the players. You know, when you're the lead dog, when you're the authority,

11:44you can have good relationships with players. But when you're not the lead dog, you're the, you're kind of second in command. The relationships with players come a lot easier. And I've really enjoyed that. As far as presence in the dugout, I think that goes back to my days as a catcher. The way you have to act with pictures is kind of a calming presence. You got to be steady. You can't have big emotional swings. And I kind of do the same thing and feel like that's appropriate as a bench coach. You know, Aaron will have his, his occasion will blow up with the umpires, although that's, that's kind of trended down since I've been here. So he's, he's relatively calm as well. But, yeah, I, I, I'm trying to make sure the players are prepared for something that might become in front of them. I'm a sounding board, sometimes proactively with your brother. But you, you won't see a ton of emotion out of me. I feel like I'll let Aaron be the emotional aspect when he thinks it's

12:48needed. And I'm just trying to be steady like I was as a catcher. Yeah, you were as playing against you for years. You were very quiet, calm, cool, collected, uh, new shoes, new clothes, brand new grade, switched a Verizon to make sure their tech keeps up. This back to school season buy or bring any Android phone and get a Samsung Galaxy tablet on us. Get your kids ready for the school year without breaking the bank. Visit Verizon.com or your local store today. Bring an Android phone or purchase a new phone with device payment on post-paid service plan required. 329.99 tablet device payment purchase with new mine on $20 per month tablet plans for 36 months required. Less $330 tablet per month credit applied over 36 months additional taxes fees in terms of if you're the type of person who wants data, not assumptions. Pre-new Vogue's whole body scan gives you a deep understanding of your health. Screen for over 500 conditions, including many cancers, autoimmune disorders, neurodegenerative diseases and more. Add blood panels to test over 80 biomarkers. And you've got information about your body you may never have had before.

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14:57you get your podcasts. Being back on the field and I learned a lot last year and we got a chance to catch up. I haven't told the audience that we got a chance to catch up the other day when you guys were in San Diego. And I learned a lot of being on the coaching side, especially in 2026 versus when we were playing. But I think as much as things change and they've changed a lot, I think you're right when it comes to the bench coach. I remember as a player, you know, I had a lot of skippers. I got that was fortunate enough to play for that. I really enjoyed. But they had to kind of keep an arm's distance from the players. And I think that's important. At least the really good managers, there's nothing wrong with having a relationship with the players. But getting too close, I kind of felt was being the head guy. You know, you've got to release guys. You've got to tell guys they're traded. You've got to bench guys. You've got to discipline guys. And it's tough to be buddy buddies. And I always felt like the best bench coaches I had through my career were like you were acting. Like you were making reference to is you have that kind

16:03of little more of a relationship with the players. They can kind of vent to you. You can kind of get a feel what's going on in that in that clubhouse. I remember John McClairen was a guy for me. He was the bench coach under Lou. And that was his job. He kind of would go out take the temperature. He could mess around with the guys. Guys could give him, you know, back and forth. But I thought it was very healthy. And then Lou was that guy. He'd come out. And we were friendly with him. But it was that at an arm's length where we couldn't, you know, we were close with him. But you couldn't get too close. I thought that was the healthiest way to go about it. Yeah, I do. And that's what you're describing is kind of exactly what my relationship is with the players. I think the other side when you're a manager is you you want to obviously have a great relationship with the players, but you don't want that relationship to impact your decision making because you still have to make decisions that are best for the club and may not be best for the player. So I think that's part of the arm's length as well. Yeah, that makes perfect sense because you don't want to make an

17:06emotional decision when you have to make a sound decision. Like I really like this guy. So instead of normally this is what I would do. He's my boy. So I got it. Yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying. We're in the stretch. We got three weeks left in the season. And I really look at, you know, I'm in contact with with Aaron. We talked throughout the season probably once a week. And I remember before I went back on the field and I shared this with you the other day and San Diego was I was always kind of the big brother calming him down like listen, you can't do this. This you're getting too worked up as out of your control. Once the game starts, you know, it is how it is the player now. You step into a role and you understand what you guys are going through on the daily basis when as a player, we come to the ballpark, we pack our lunch, win, lose, or draw. Some days you get three hits, some days you get none. You go home, especially as you get a little

18:09experience in the game, you go home at night, you go to sleep, that game's done. You wake up and you do it again. And it's kind of that's the player mentality. And I felt like coaching or managing. We live and die so much with the wins and the losses. So because we never get three hits ever again. Or we never going to have a great game. It's a great game for us is a double you like. All right. We survived another day. We didn't lose. How can I help tomorrow give us a chance to win again? It's a completely different perspective that until you're in that position, you can't really relate to on the outside. I thought I could and then all of a sudden it's like, no, this is nothing. I didn't think I'd care this much. I didn't think I'd be this into it, this passionate about it. But you do you get swept up and you start caring for these, these guys on the roster a much more than you think you then you think you would now. This happened to you years ago because you've been in that on that side of the ledger for a while, but explain it explain it from your perspective of your your experience through the years and how how you really do get get invested in it.

19:15Yeah. When you're when you're playing, there are different things over the course of the game that you can you can hang your hat on. Obviously you want to win the game, but you know, maybe you got a hit or you drove in a run or as a catcher, maybe you threw someone out stealing. Whatever it may be, even if you lost like, well, crap, I'd rather I wish we had won the game, but you know, least I got a hit or at least I helped contribute or at least I helped the pitcher get through the game, whatever it may be for me as a catcher. And I've said this since I've been a manager, there's and you've described it with all the stats, the data and information and baseball, there is only one stat that matters to a manager in a coaching staff. Winds and losses. That's it. I guess that's two stats tactically. Winds and losses, but that's all that matters. And you know, if your team scores 11 runs and you lose 12 11, well, you can't hang your hat on the fact that you had a good off on sub night because you'll loss the game.

20:17Right. And that's what what keeps can keep managers up at night. That being said, what you described is really investing in the players, caring about the players. That's a huge part of it because you're relying on them. You're relying on them to perform and you're trying to do everything you can to put them in a position or prepare them to perform better than the other team. Is it always going to happen on a daily basis? Of course not. It's baseball. But that's where your energy goes. Your energy goes to the next game every single night, regardless of the outcome. But you can only lean on the outcome of that night's game. So it's it's it's it's kind of at all or nothing business when you're a when you're a staff member. Yeah, it really is. It's those W is it. It's just like it gives you relief for another day to wake up the next morning. You can start grinding. All right. How we get to get another W last three weeks.

21:18Since since since they changed the playoff format, which by the way, as just as a guy that watches from the outside from the media side, I really like the new format. I think it's I think it's been great for the game getting 12 teams in now as a player when we go back to our days, it kind of cheapens the numbers like, Oh, yeah, nowadays anybody can get to the postseason. But I think for the for the good of the game, for the fans perspective, I think it's great. I think I think it's great having so many teams involved so much later into the season where they still got a chance we're in the past. A lot of these cities would have moved on to football by now, but because of this new playoff format, I think it's great. It keeps everybody engaged a lot longer. I think it's good for the game. I've been pleasantly surprised with since since I've been back on this side watching these post seasons. They're really exciting. I like I really enjoy watching playoff baseball. The World Series last year might be the best World Series since I was a little

22:22kid that I've ever seen that Dodger Toronto series. So I think it's great. Long story trying to get to my question of as players when we were playing, man, we wanted to win that division. Yeah, at last resort, okay, we'll take the wild card. But man, we had to win that division. It was so important. Home field advantage, et cetera, et cetera. The way things are playing out now and what I've watched in this modern day, I don't know if that's the most important. It's to me, it's getting a seat at the table and that's all that matters to get to the postseason. We've seen it a few years ago with the Arizona's who almost won the World Series. A lot of wild card teams are getting advanced. Not the last two years. Best team in baseball has been the Dodgers and they won two World Series in a row. But I think overall it's getting a seat at the table. That's my perspective. Of course you want to win the division. Of course you do. But getting

23:22a seat at the table, I think, is more important than it's ever been your perspective. I think going into a wild card three game series is tough. You could have the second best record in the league, be second in your division, and be forced to play a three game series against another team. You could easily be out. Now, that being said, I don't know that it has to change. The three game series probably gives opportunity to teams that may not have opportunity if it was five or seven game series. I don't know that's necessarily a bad thing for baseball. But if I go back to 2024 when we won the division and we had a buy in the first round, I'll take that over playing the wild card three game series any day of the week. That's just my perspective. I think most of you will probably take that. But I do agree with

24:25you 100%. I love the format. I think more people are engaged, more cities are engaged, more teams are engaged with trading deadline. I think it's great for baseball, having more teams involved. So I'm not complaining by any stretch. I'm just saying, I'll take the buy over the three game series any day of the week. Yeah. And I think, I mean, all right, the purest part of me thinks like this. It's like, I want the best team to make it. Okay. So the best team for me is not somebody that could win a three game series. And by the way, the three game series a lot better than it used to be that one and done. I thought that was ridiculous. That's ridiculous. I have two games and you're one and done. But if I had it my way and I'm taking not good for the game fans, I could care less. If I'm taking that outlook on it, I would say less teams get in 162 games as the barometer because that truly shows me who the best team is over that long haul. Not a short series

25:32have the shortest postseason like it used to be. In the old days, it was two teams from each league to two American, two national. You play, they go to the world series. Once you got there, it was probably the easiest. It's ever been to win a world series. But getting there was much tougher than than today. Now it's easy. It's easy as it's ever been in our game. But probably once you get to the postseason, it's arguably the toughest to win it all because you've got to go through so many series and so many landmines. True. And part of that's the nature of the game. I kind of would like I like having the extra teams in because it's like we were talking about it engages more cities, more fans are watching because they're still in the hunt. What I wouldn't mind seeing is okay. Just go once the postseason's here, seed them by record. We have a balance schedule now. We're kind of playing everyone. Seed them by record. So just go no matter what division you're in, go best record to

26:35worst record for the playoff eligible teams. Give those two the buy and then start from there. I'd kind of like to see that. I feel like that's a little more fair. I'll repeat. I really like the way the playoffs go now. When I wasn't in the game, I was watching these games on TV at home because I enjoyed watching them. And I'll go step farther. And this is really down a rabbit hole. I'd love to see a world series champion United States versus a Japan champion. That's what I'd love to see. And be some logistic issues because of the time difference. And I don't know if there's a neutral site capability somewhere maybe in Hawaii. But I think that would that would be a financial boom. But you know, not the next it would grow the game ridiculous. I think just the little things that I look at now the WBC.

27:38First I thought, man, could you imagine going to spring training and gotta be have your adrenaline at a playoff level from the get go. I thought that's really hard to do. But it's like, I don't know how much it affects you. It's like, okay, some guys are sharp. Some guys, you know, for years you go to spring training. Sometimes you have a great spring and your swings there from the beginning. I've been to spring trainings where that last week I find I've been to spring trainings where I'm going to know opening day lost. But I think if you're doing it for the good of the game and the collective, I think the WBC from a fans perspective is crazy. I think if you had Japan against the United States or the major league baseball, another version of that world series, I think it would be unbelievable as far as the economics and bringing more eyeballs to the game of baseball, which I think is a positive thing. They're talking about moving that WBC to the middle of the year where they have normally have the all-star game. And like you said, from a weather perspective from 162 games, they've talked to you for years and years about taking away

28:38from the right of their season. I don't think they're going to do that. And as it is right now, with so many playoff rounds, you're stretching it anyway to get, you know, to, for you're going into the beginning of October. So I think it's an interesting perspective and I think it would be great because at this stage, I have completely, I don't know about you, but I have completely different perspective on a lot of things than I did as a player. I remember that, you know, the player when they, they'd mic us up for a game. This was just coming in when we were playing. It's like, we want to mic you, we want to mic you up for the game, Brett. What are you talking about? I play baseball. This is what I do. I don't do these interviews. Now, looking back, it's like, you're not doing it for you. You're doing it for the good, if that's what the fans want to see, that's what the fans want to see. We've seen the salaries escalate to ridiculous levels. And I think that's, that's a positive thing for players. And I think that's because the money's there, and the money's there because they promote the game better than they used to. And there's more

29:40eyeballs. So I think it's a win-win. So as a player, now my look is, do whatever it takes to make those fans happy and to not only keep the fans you have, but add to the fan base. I think the WBC is a perfect example because when that started, and I couldn't, I'm not even sure what year it started, but I think there was a lot of skepticism, especially among the players. And over the last two WBCs, both of which I was a part of, I think it's exploded. I think the players love it. I think the fans love it. I know the players love representing their countries. The enthusiasm, the energy, watch these games. And I was in Miami the last two WBC the regionals, whatever they call them. And you know, playing the Dominican, you're playing Puerto Rico, the fans are unbelievable. It's just constant buzz. It's the stadiums build.

30:48And it's a lot, a lot of fun. It's, it's playoff atmosphere baseball for two weeks in the middle, right now in the middle of February, well, middle March. Um, maybe they move it to the middle of the summer, but it's, I haven't met a player walk away from it other than maybe someone who had an injury. I haven't seen a player walk away and go, that's stunk. Heading back to campus, timed web grade your entire text setup, switched to Verizon, buy or bring a qualifying smartphone and get a smart watch and a tablet on us. That's all your essential gear for zero extra dollars. ace your classes, track your fitness, and stream your favorite shows. Visit Verizon.com or your local store today. Bring an eligible phone or purchase a new phone with device payment on post-paid service plan required up to $649.99 watching tablet device payment purchase with new line on $20 per month, tablet plan and $15 per month watch plan for 36 months required, less up to $650 per month credit applied over 36 months per device additional tax fees in terms of apply. Here's something you may not know. Only 14% of cancers in the US are caught through routine screenings. Pre-new Vows whole body MRI may help close that gap. Screening for over 500

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32:55you get your podcasts. Yeah, it's it's I mean it's just more high level you know and not real games from players perspective and in the back of their bubble gum card. But real games as far as everybody's watching every country's wide probably more eyes on the WBC than probably on a World Series game because so many of the countries are involved. So I think yeah anything you can do to further the game and I think the WBC is is just another example of that and it's really good for the game of baseball. Managed in Detroit, Managed in Anaheim. Benchcoach for the A's for Kata. How is New York different than all your other experiences? Well, there's no question it's different. It's just it's a grander stage. It's brighter lights and almost to play off atmosphere every single night. Like I describe it as when we go into the season

33:59our fans want us to go 162 and 0 and you feel it like you feel the fans push you here. Some people can handle it. Some people can't but I think it's a plus because it it picks up your focus and every game becomes uber meaningful. It's it's it's a lot of fun and I had never experienced it obviously until I got here in 24 and we went to the World Series that year which made it even more fun but there's an expectation here that you don't find in many places in many sports and it makes it a lot of fun. I agree with you and I think I mean to be honest the fans are delusional. They're delusional on the East Coast that the sports the sports takes and they're all delusional because it's it's always World Series or or it was it was a failure of a season. Well that's nonsense and it's like you were kind of spoiled back in the late 90s with those unbelievable

35:00teams that won four in a row or four in like a five or six year period under joutori but people don't realize that's like a something that does that's a once in a lifetime thing that's not normal and especially today with the way the game is today. It's it's not 1956 where the the Yankees win six titles in a row. It's not I I liking it to when I went to USC and Rod Dato has like 20 college world series championships. It's like it's a little different today. The SEC is a lot tougher than the pack. You know when the pack used to be the whole thing. Everything used to be SC. Everything used to be Notre Dame in college football. So it's a little different world yet the New York fan expects you better win the World Series or you guys suck and I laugh and you say you love I love it too. I loved it as a player. I think when we were players coming into New York as opponents just listening to the fans on the street was entertainment. I loved it and they

36:02hated you. They hated you respectfully especially the Yankee fans. I thought but I just loved coming into that atmosphere where these people really think their team should win every single night of the week no matter what no matter the year no matter who's playing no matter who's not playing who's on the injured list doesn't matter. You're the Yankee you should win. It's delusional but I think it's a cool atmosphere to go to go to work every day. It really is and it's and I've been with a number of organizations now and you know I have not been in Boston or Chicago but I played in LA although LA has changed a little bit now with the expectation but it's it's like no other environment than I've been around. Yeah and I think you guys I mean I watch you guys and I've you know I've got a mother that's pretty interested in your guys as games and I have to calm her down and I said mom they're doing really well. I said think of the injuries they've had this year. The best player in the world hasn't played in the last three months. He's just getting back on the field when I say

37:03that I mean Aaron Judge. I said they've been they've been banged up all year. The pitching's been in and out. You've had a couple guys that have been constant. I said but they put together a pretty darn good run. One of the best records in baseball and they're kind of doing it you know with a lot of injuries. So I think I think you guys have done another great job managing your your personnel. When I don't think all the time you guys get that much credit for it because it's so expected. We don't care who's hurt. We don't care who's on the field. Nobody takes that in consideration when they're evaluating the Yankees I think at least I'm sure some people do but I think consistently the narrative is you're the Yankees you should win no matter what. But you know it's funny I said this to your brother and now you know I'm on Brett Boone's podcast and your brother is the manager of my boss but you know I've been around the game long enough and around Aaron long enough and I told me all day and I firmly believe this. You know it's going to

38:07be very difficult for a New York Yankee manager to ever win manager the year and Kevin Cash is going to run away with manager the year of the American League. But if there was a year where there should be real consideration for your brother to me it's this year with the injuries out of the gate where the starting pitching Cole came back later Rodan came back later we had Max Fried go down a couple times now. We've had weather's go down now Clark Schmidt's been out the whole year. We had a bullpen that we were kind of unsure of from beginning the season other than Bednar and the closing role. We've had Aaron judge go down Giancarlo Stanton go down we had Belinger go down we had Trent Grisham now has gone down for a second time but like every team has injuries but these were nuts and bolts injuries and your brother's done an outstanding job and keeping

39:08everyone on the same on the same course the team is really overall played very well do we want to be in first place absolutely are we done trying to get in the first place absolutely not but but Aaron's done an outstanding job I give him a lot of credit and that's I'm trying to be objective here but I give him a lot of credit. No I agree with you because it coming from a brother you know you know people are going to judge oh that's your brother your bias well I try to look at it through the clearest lens I possibly can yes he's my brother I want the best for him I want to see you guys win at the same time I have to be objective and and come from a place as well as I can do it of fairness but when I look at the job not only he's done but that whole staff's done in New York with this year I'll tell anybody that wants to listen I don't care that I'm his brother I'm just telling you they've done a hell of a job from from what they've had to deal with and all the all the adversity that been thrown at you guys once again I think it's it's a double-edged sword I think it's an awesome thing that people have expectations that high and think that highly

40:14of you guys in that organization but at the same time be a little realistic and look what we're working with here you know it's it's when I was the hit-and-coach last year you know when you're you're getting you know you're critiqued on a daily basis when we score 11 I'm the greatest in the world when we score none I stink and you want to point out well you know seeker and and simian and and why it lengthored haven't been in the lineup for three nobody cares nobody cares is just what have you done for me score runs and I'm taking that from a you know smaller sample size not being the skipper but when you're the hit-and-coach you're in charge of the hitter so what they do is a reflection of you whether it's whether it's fair it's not fair it doesn't matter the life isn't fair it's not about that but it's it's an interesting way to look about it and I agree with you Brad I think you've been you've been awesome I think for my brother being in that role I think Aaron's done a wonderful I think you guys have done a great job this year and and I just laugh when when I hear the New York critique I just have to laugh not as a brother but just as

41:15it as a baseball guy like two people look at it really with it with a clear lens sometimes they do sometimes they don't but at once again I think that is what makes the New York Yankees the New York Yankees what makes the city in New York New York I think it's just expectations through the roof and there's when you win there's no place like it I've been disappointed a lot of times at Yankee Stadium as an opposing player and I've watched them celebrate on that field and just go how cool would it be to be Yankee never got to do it in my career but I just thought is there anything better than than that when they were one in those World Series and celebrating on that field yeah and the thing I always remind myself like when when somebody's getting booed like what one of our players or or Aaron is getting booed the thing that I always say to myself internally is they just want a winner that's what they want like they're they're not booing because they dislike someone they maybe you did something in the field they're booing but they want a winner it's very simple and

42:16it's our job to try and give them that every single night for 162 nights and into the playoffs. Well Brad I appreciate coming on man I wish you I don't want to take too much more your time I wish you the best down the stretch I'll be checking out I don't know where I'll see you next maybe somewhere on the road in the post season if you I tell Aaron I said you got to get to at least game six of the World Series for me to show up but who knows maybe I'll be there maybe I won't I wish you the best yeah I hope I wish you guys the best I'll be pulling for you I appreciate you taking the time today for those of you watching the Bret Boone podcasts now on YouTube check it out those of you that listen to the Bret Boone podcast Odyssey app wherever you download your podcast till next time keep it here thanks Brad. All right thanks Brad see you. New Shoes new clothes brand new grade switched a Verizon to make sure their tech keeps up this back to school season buy or bring any Android phone and get a Samsung Galaxy tablet on us get your kids ready for the school year without breaking the bank visit Verizon.com or your local

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