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Being as this is, I was going through my victory sort of run.
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No, you were going away.
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I have two options here.
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I'm actually going to let you to do it out and decide what question I asked you.
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We're going to look at question one is about Tor Pros putting from 30 feet.
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Question two is about five index players and how close they need to hit it to break
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I think Greg should vote, dude, because he's struggling a bit at the minute.
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I'm trying long, and I feel he should choose.
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Let's get away from the two of pros.
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Let's go to the five index.
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Let's talk to some people.
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We're going to do five index players.
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What we want to know is we want to know they're in the fairway, and they're going to be
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at three different distances.
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They're going to be at 40 yards, 100 yards, and 180 yards.
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They hit their approach shot, and it hits the green.
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How close does that ball need to be for them to break even on Stokescane?
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So what's the tipping point when they're actually getting an advantage?
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What's the tipping point where they break even?
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They get to 0.00 Stokescane on that shot.
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Five index from the fairway.
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The ball hits the green, so the ball's on the green.
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How close does that ball need to be?
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So what's the proximity of that shot in feet from when they are 40 yards in the fairway,
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100 yards in the fairway, and 180 yards in the fairway?
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Where do they break even on Stokescane?
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This will be a good one.
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I'm excited to see this one.
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Really good amateur player, top 10% kind of player.
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I think I'm crossing out going on, but I've got one in the end.
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And this will be because there are three separate questions in here.
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We'll be the best of three.
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And tiebreaker apparently I need to disclose that.
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Now tiebreaker is a set is a separate question.
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It's not told this question, not whoever did the best guess.
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Yeah, it's a random question.
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Good clarification, Lou.
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Mark, you need to go first.
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So how close do five index players need to hit it from 40 yards in the fairway to break
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even on Stokescane on that approach up?
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Dude, I wasn't even.
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No, we're near that.
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Gregie, how close do they need to be in feet when they're 100 yards?
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And then Mark, the last one, 180 yards.
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So apart from the first guess, we're right next to each other there pretty much.
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We're right next to each other.
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We're going to start from 40 yards.
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We have good guesses.
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There's some good guesses.
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And there's some guesses that are not good.
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Because I don't like it when he compliments our guesses.
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I mean, it feels like we're eating inside.
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And when he doesn't say anything, this goes in the arms.
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So why don't I do my own work in this week?
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Well, some guesses are great.
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Some guesses not so great.
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But these are hard questions.
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They're challenging questions.
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And the answer is 14 feet.
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Greg, you locked in on that one.
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The answer is 37 feet.
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I'm nervous for the last one here.
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And the answer is 90 feet.
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Greg with the win, though.
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Can I borrow your horse, please, Mark?
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The trotting is over.
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There's just not many greens in situations set up where you can even have a 90 foot pot.
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It's really hard for that to happen.
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The pin has to be tucked somewhere.
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Has to be a bigger green, typically.
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Like, so, you know, 180 yards out.
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If a five index hits the green at all.
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Like, you've had a wonderful shot from 180 yards.
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Which is unbelievable, isn't it?
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A five index is hitting.
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Like there will be five indexes actually hitting seven ions from that distance.
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Like they will be hitting a seven.
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And I can't agree with it.
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I'd love to interview the five index and ask them what,
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because my experience playing with people like that is the expectation from that yardage is dialed in.
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You know, like in reality they get it on the green.
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Yeah, I can tell you from the weekly newsletter that I send out,
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where I typically I have a quiz in the newsletter like this.
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I ask questions each week and I give them options multiple choice.
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Yeah, that's why you were winning all the time.
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And now he's the, now the truth.
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Nobody sits by their inbox just waiting for that more than me.
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But the answers are always, I oftentimes make the answers, you know,
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I want to say relatively obvious.
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And in some people have picked up on the pattern where a lot of the times it's just, you know,
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it's the least obvious answer.
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And that's the correct answer.
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And people will email me and say, you got to stop this.
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Because it's obvious to me what you're doing here.
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And I just pick the, you know, the worst answer of the bunch.
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And that's usually the right one.
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But the percent of people that still get it wrong is astounding.
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Like they still get it wrong because the, you know, the, the myth out there
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of what you should do and how you should perform.
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And the expectations of people have are just, just completely not realistic.
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Well, I think a thing is that aside from like your own egos when you play golf
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and your expectations based on that one time that you did something really well.
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And therefore now you do it, you think you do it like that.
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We've been told for years just at the professional level when you listen to golf and watch golf.
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These guys are going to hit this into 10 feet.
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You'll be disappointed if he doesn't do this.
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Like the commentary has built around the 0.0 percent of whatever that gets something done.
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You know what I mean? Like it's, it's incredible.
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And I think people extrapolate that potentially to their own games.
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Aside from, you know, an honest assessment sometimes of just your own performance is not fun for a lot of people.
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And I think the stats show that when some people do stats are one of their first comments to me is,
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I can't, this isn't right.
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This isn't what I like.
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They don't see the positive.
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Sometimes they think I don't want to see that anymore.
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Well, they don't even want to enter the bad ones and stuff like that.
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Don't enter the bad rounds.
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Don't want to enter the bad rounds.
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That's really cold.
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It is so, it is very common.
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Like I deal with that with some of the elite players that I work with where they do not want to,
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like I look in their stats because we're going to talk about them in review.
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And they're, they're missing some rounds.
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And I would, what, and they don't like to enter their bad rounds.
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They only like to enter their good rounds and look at the good numbers.
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When in reality, the bad ones are ones we would potentially learn the most.
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We want, we want all of them in there so we can understand everything.
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And there's a lot of people that don't want to do that.
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They just want to, they only want to focus on the good.
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We were way off there, Greg.
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You had a good one.
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But that would have been taken some serious, like, gumption to be able to say,
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oh, 89 feet, you know, as a guest.
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I do remember looking at that.
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I mean, I say, I remember looking at these numbers and being blown away at how far away some
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of them were when you got me at the top end, even from, you know, five indexes.
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Five indexes is a good player.
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Like if you say you're five, you're going to be lower than most people.
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You speak about golf too in the street or at a party or something.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that 45 feet, if that was tall.
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Some, yeah, like Torpro.
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I reckon that probably isn't far off.
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I don't have it in front of me, but that's pretty close.
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No, I think Greg one day.
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I don't think anyone really.
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No one would ever class that as a win today.
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No, I'm not sure anyone would do that today with those.
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I'm on my horse now.
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Well, Greg, I guess for being three better than me, but millions off on the last dance.
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That's what it's coming down to.
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I can feel that I can feel the energy you're bringing here.
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I can't end the portal to the energy.
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If I end the pot, I am then the loser for next week.
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I'm still the rating champion until the pot ends.
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This might be a 20 year pot.
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I might just keep which is dead silence.
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So did we just log off me trying in the corner.
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Thanks a listen to everybody.