Stewart Copeland: Sting Would Suck At Standup & Dad’s CIA Job

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1:05Adam's guest today, legendary drummer, Stuart Copeland. Plus the news with Andrew Hobbson and now Adam Corolla. Get on. All right, I'm on location. You can probably hear that already just by the sonics of what we're doing here. I'm in a huge convention center. I'm doing this big trumpet on thing out here. It's a long story, I'll fill you in later. But Stuart Copeland is joining me and Stuart has a spoken word tour. And I don't have the bio in front of me because of all the craziness. And we try to get it printed out the hotel and you know how it goes. But we'll fill you in all the details. But of course, you know, Stuart from the police and many other endeavors as well as soundtracks for movies and everything else. Good see you, Stuart. Hey, great to see you Adam. Long time, I think we go back to when you had the man shot. When we were men. You know, I mean, I look at the, and sorry for any ambiance sound you may hear here.

2:10We were told no one was coming into this facility before this, but now the place is back and they're doing a whole bunch of stage announcements and everything. So we'll muddle through this. But yeah, the police were a revolutionary band in my world. They were sort of new wave before, before everyone else got there. I mean, I could remember hearing Roxanne early when I was like in the ninth grade or something and thinking that is a different song than any other song I've ever heard before. Did you guys know you were on to something different and was the plan to do something different? No, the plan was to completely do something the same. Our brief was to be a punk band because that's the only work available in those days. It was the end of the the Prague Rock era and I was in a big Prague Rock band called Curved Air. But we could just see that the whole scene was losing altitude and the only thing going on

3:10was this new punk scene in London. And so we were a fake punk band when we started until Andy joined and things started writing actual songs and then we kind of morphed into a not punk band. And I guess Roxanne was a step away from our origins. Yeah, but you know, one of my favorite police songs so lonely is kind of a punk song. Yeah, well, the loud choruses and quiet verses. I don't think we invented that format. I think we just picked it up and had been forgotten for a while. In a way, I guess you are sort of like the pretenders in that you're not from England. But it's an English band, you know, Chrissy Hines from, I don't know, Ohio. But she's in England. Yes, she's in English band, you know. Is that kind of like you? Yeah, I would also include in that club, I would include Jimmy Hendrix, who busted out in England. That's where he came from, although he was from Seattle, I think,

4:14fully American, but a lot of Americans bust out in England. Yeah, I guess you had to back then. And I don't know, maybe I'm nostalgic, but to me, those days with the early Elvis Costello and Grand Parker and Joe Jackson, you know, look sharp and I'm the man. Right. Those early late 70s, early 80s albums, I don't know. There was something different, little magical about those. I mean, I would include the pretenders and police in that group as well. Well, you know, people when they hear me speak nowadays, this, I can see that first, that little look of disappointment in their eyes, it's sort of like they meet Ringo Starr and he's got a, you know, a Brooklyn accent. I'm not supposed to be American, but I am God damn it. And living in England for 20 years, I had to hold on to my America. Yeah, but you were born abroad. Your dad had a crazy kind of, you know, actually know what you were about to say is probably true.

5:16But no, I was actually born in Alexandria, Virginia and went to Cairo, India, Egypt when I was two months old. But actually, I was born in the United States of America. And dad's job was what? Oh, skullduggery in the Middle East. Imposing dictators. Actually, imposing dictators, despots and dickheads. There was all about keeping the oil flowing from the Middle East to our factories, rather than north of the evil empire of the Soviet Union. And so they had to sustain the system of stability, even though we might not have liked these characters that they were propping up. But he has used to say, they may be sons of bitches, but they're our sons of bitches. Well, I guess as you travel through this world, you really realize everything is a kind of a lesser of two evils or a little bit of a devil you know. I mean, no one, no, no, no, no, I'm a little more optimistic than you had them. I would say that we choose between the blessings.

6:17Well, then the blessings you know. But did you, were you rebelling against your dad with music and punk and any of that? Stuff in his life, you think? No, no, he would have loved it. Well, he did love it. I mean, he was a rebel himself. He was not missed, even though he was a CIA man, he was not Mr. Conservative at all. And so, and he was also a jazz musician before he joined the Army and that intelligence, etc. His only disappointment was not that I was, you know, punked out, it was that I wasn't playing jazz. And the reason I don't play jazz is probably because jazz, to me, represents a nice, safe Sunday afternoon with the family. It's the opposite of rebellion to me. It was your dad around to see all your success. That's great. Yeah. And he did, he did, he, I'm always curious about, because there's a lot of different levels of parents and their kids success.

7:18Some really drink it in, some really joy it, some, you know, put the jersey on and go to the game and sit for it, bro. And others don't seem to acknowledge it. And it's, and I always feel bad for those who don't seem like, I remember talking to Norman Lear. I interviewed Norman Lear several years ago. And it's like, his mom just never, never acknowledged his fame, never acknowledged his success and never got on board. And I, I feel bad for her, you know, like she didn't get to bathe their son. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was tragic. It was tragic. It was tragic. Going down her son, like really drinking it in. He was a bit old for the concerts by the time I was playing concerts. He was kind, but he didn't come to one or two. And I got a chance to drink it up. I took him to see Buddy Rich one time. And he was, this is where I got my father, you know, this is every kid's dream, you know, the Impressor dad. You know, he raised me on what's my buddy Stanley Clark would call wrong jazz.

8:22That's to say white big band jazz. That's what I was raised on. Stan Kenton and so on. And Buddy Rich. And I took my dad to see Buddy Rich at Ronnie Scott's in London. And the real moment where I broke through every kid would dream of is I'm there in backstage. And all of Buddy's bands are lining up for autographs and pictures with my father's son, me. While him and Buddy are off in the corner talking old band leaders and stuff. But for Buddy's band to be, you know, getting my autograph, that was a big moment for my dad. Yeah, yeah, by the way, by the way, since you asked, actually, you didn't ask, I'm going to tell you anyway, I gave Buddy Rich my autograph. I'll just let that sink in for a minute. Interesting how your dad's always going to be your dad and your brother. So it's going to be your brother and your mom's always going to be your mom. But sometimes you need an outsider to confirm who you are outside of the family. Because you're always who you are inside of the family.

9:24But outside of the family, you can get confirmed. And if a guy like Buddy Rich does it, that's an amazing experience in story. And I'm always grateful that that's all too true. That's so true. You know, being famous is great, except for it never works in front of my mother-in-law. The guy comes up and says, oh, Mr. Copeland, I love your work. I love your work. Just turning away and doing something. And as she turns back, however it is, is gone. You know, this is one of the frustrations. Yes, I've had that with my kids many times in a home depot. Well, the kids are the hardest to impress of all. Yeah, well, the only thing that impresses the kids and especially the daughters is if their friends, dads, are fans. So it's kind of interesting, the wiring between men and women. My daughter didn't care, but if one of her friends, dads cared about me, then she did care, which is a very feminine trait.

10:26So you're doing a spoken word tour. And I know I think you're coming up with a re-alto and Tucson, or I was just at the re-alto and tooth on, a beautiful theater. You're going to enjoy it. Cool. And spoken word is kind of interesting, because, you know, I think back on Henry Rollins back in the day and others who have done it. But I haven't heard about the format in a while of spoken words. So tell us sort of about how you structured your show. It turns out I never expected this, never thought in a million years that I'd be doing this, but it turns out that it's like stand-up comedy with one big difference. I'm sitting down in an armchair and I discovered, I never knew this, that you could go out there. I don't need no bass player, no guitarist, no amps, no crew, no songs, no nothing. Just give me a chair and a light bulb on all the whole room for two hours. Well, and that introduced me to this art form that I have a lot of appreciation for,

11:29which stand-up comedy, I've always admired those guys who can walk out on stage with nothing but a microphone. Naked. And I've admired that, and I aspire to that level, where I don't even need an armchair. Well, you know, take this in the spirit which is intended. You are a great talker for a drummer. Drummering is not normal. You know, you're in the back making your noise with your hands, you know, not your mouth normally. And life is sort of self-selectic, you know, I've noticed. Like when I go to the vintage car races, I can always tell a guy's personality by which car he chooses to drive. Certain cars attract certain personnel. What do you know? And so if you're attracted to being a drummer, you're usually sort of in the back and you'll let your hands do your talking. But you are an exceptional order for somebody who's

12:29in the back behind the drum kit. Have you always been that way? Well, yeah. I know I was a shy, diminutive kid, which is probably why as soon as I started banging on drums, I became a very loud kid, instant chest hair, as soon as you start banging on those drums. No, I've always been a little talkative. I mean, back in the band days, my two buddies would shut me up because I talk too much. But the entertaining and audience with it, looking for, it's all about the gags. It's all about the laughs. I've become a horror for gags and laughter. It is a drug. You know, when you're playing a song, you've got to wait three whole minutes before you get your applause. But if you're doing the kind of a show like this, the talking show, it's just rolling one gag on top of another and you can keep the room lit. It's a great feeling. I really enjoy doing it. It's like also the other thing is that the physicality

13:34isn't the problem. I can go run a marathon that day. I don't have to conserve calories because I know I need them on stage to bang drums. I don't need to worry about what I eat or any damn thing. Just pull back the curtain. I'll walk out there and have some fun with the room. Yeah, I got a project. I sure they ambient. The ambient sound. I could hear everything is said, by the way. But they're kidding. See, I was told we're going to have a room to set up in here and we're out on the floor of this place. Hopefully this will work. I'm going to look behind me as he was going on. It looks good. I'm going to leak a little later tonight. So I got to get my shit together. Hey, look, Adam, give me a hat. I'll catch you a mega hat. So it's kind of interesting. Most, most everything turns into stand up. If you're on stage long enough holding a microphone long

14:36it up. It's just a human condition. So even doing a eulogy, someone will tell a joke or funny story about the disease and they'll get a reaction and it kind of turns into it. And what I've noticed is a lot of spoken words sort of turns into a version of stand up. It's a sort of sit down. Hopefully. Yeah, but the good, here's the good news. If you go up as a stand up, you go, I am a stand up, then there's a certain expectation level and there's a certain rhythm on certain cadence. If you go up there and you go, it's an evening with Stuart Copeland. Every joke is gratis. It's all free. It's all it's all found. It's all it's all a plus because because if you go up and you go stand up comedy with Stuart Copeland, then people will stand there and go where are all the jokes? They'll come on. Make me laugh. Make me laugh. And if they want to hear your more stories,

15:38but they happen to have a bunch line. Yes, you will find new punch lines every show. And by the end of the tour, you'll have many more punch lines in there than you started with the beginning of the show. That's my experience. That is absolutely true. In fact, my show is, it's supposed to be two 45 minute sets, but I never come off stage in shorter than an hour. And I keep cutting material and I come off stage the next night. I've been cut whole, I cut the whole polo story out. I played polo with, you know, Prince Charles, take out that and what I come off stage and it's still just over an hour. I don't know how it feels like you say, you come up with new gags and then I've got a little break now. Going back out in October and November, I'm going to have to look at the tape to remember all those dad that I'm so proud of having having, well, also when you get laughs, it adds a lot of time to the show. If you're getting

16:41a laugh every 90 seconds or two minutes, it really takes a 45 minutes and stretches without to an hour. Well, what is the story? Yes. Also, I do like to play with the audience as well. I encourage cat calls, verbal abuse, any damn thing, I like to play with it because I'm telling more or less the same stories. So it's great to have folks shout stuff out and break it up a little bit and I love, you know, you don't need to be intimidated by a member of the audience shouting stuff because you've got a six zillion watt PA that gives you kind of an advantage. So I actually enjoy back and forth with the audience. I don't know, I don't really know Andy Summers' personality or Sting's personality. I don't feel like I know who they are as sort of dudes. How is everyone get along these days and like how would you describe them as just individuals?

17:44Well, Sting would suck at this. He's not like a storyteller until he goes into the quiet of his room and puts it a very complex idea into seven words that rhyme. That's what he's real good at. Quick conversation, Rep. Artie, not his thing. Andy would be a blast. He's real good at storytelling. It was pretty good comedian. Andy would be a blast. And is everyone on good terms these days? Oh yeah, I, yeah, yeah, I mean as long as you don't have to play together, we get along great. Is it tough to play together because everyone's sort of a perfectionist or you hear in the middle of the song what someone did wrong or whatever it is and it gets under your skin or how's that work? It's actually pretty simple. We realized after having been through, you know, as all your listeners are probably aware, we were very loving blissful band environment, not. But the problem was

18:45not what everyone thought it was. It's not what we thought it was. We didn't realize until the towards the end of our big reunion tour, we make music for different reasons. We're on different missions. I'm out there to bang shit. I like it's a physical exercise. I want to be Mitch Mitchell with Jimmy Hendrix playing, bangin' on my drums. That's what I'm here for. Somebody else who wrote a song might conceive of, have the notion that we're all there to serve his song. And indeed the song is the very valuable thing and we get nowhere without great songs. But for me, the song is there to serve the band and the rather than the other way around. And that is a conflict within the band right there. I'm there to play drums and burn down the house. Somebody else in the band wants to tell a story or express a deep political concept or whatever. I don't care. I'm bangin' shit here. And so I will gladly serve the music because I'm totally honed in on the music. But whatever

19:50the subject of the song is, not my problem. I'm at the back of the stage bangin' stuff. So it's not that we're trying to smother each other or jealous of each other or anything like that or no, certainly nobody fucks up in the police. That's for sure. We don't let that happen. It's just that we're on different and clashing missions. And when we were young and codependent, that was great contrast. And that's how we made all those cool records. In spite of being on different missions, that contrast was great when we were young. But now we're grown up. We enjoy our lives. We don't have to put up with that anymore. Yeah, I never really thought about everyone being in the same band, but sort of coming at it from different positions. But you know, there's a version of that with comedy as well. And I guess in every art, I suppose in every art, there's a version of coming at it from a different perspective, design, architecture, comedy, drama, like whatever that is. So there will be,

20:58is there any chance there's ever another police show for us ever? I don't think so. I mean, we really nailed it on the reunion tour. By the end of we were counting down the hours that we would have to spend on the stage as we were hugging and laughing and loving. You know, we get along so great. Nobody wants to go back to that place where we have to, you know, where Old Stingo has to put up with World War III over his left shoulder while he's trying to say something important. And I don't have my bass player turning around and glowering at me because I hit a drum. We don't need that. By the way, I'm still enjoying playing those songs. When I finish doing this talking stuff, I'm going back out with orchestras across the land, playing Roxanne, Message, and Abaddon, can't stand losing you. And so, but the big orchestral arrangements. So I'm not done with those songs. I think question, are you doing much scoring these days? I know you scored quite a few films and productions in your life. Not anymore. No, I retired. I retired. I escaped from Hollywood,

22:05but I do something even worse. I write off. Really? How do you write it? Okay, that's, that's a conversation stopper right there. But I've written seven operas now. I'm writing another one right now. It's the most fun a composer can have with your close-up. Yeah, tell us how that would work. And then, obviously, there's operas and then there's like rock operas, you know, quadriffinia and Tommy and all that kind of stuff we've heard about. Well, the same thing with, same thing, different instruments. Telling a story and and and cranking up the emotional impact of a story like in Tommy with music or in in Puccini or Verde or Wagner, it's a way of telling a story with the music. Because the music has as I learned this 20 years before the Mass as a hired gun, flinty-eyed, four hire film composer, I learned that music tells a story. Music can negate what you see on the screen. It can amplify

23:07things that you didn't notice. Music is a really powerful story teller. In fact, on the screen, you see something that's beautiful. Everything, all the information you're getting is beautiful, but the music, I put a shit-court on it and you know that it's all bad. You believe my music rather than your lying eyes. Yeah. So that's why I'm in opera because I don't have to deal with, you know, the rat kingdom. That's Disney to you. And I can do music storytelling without Hollywood. The pay sucks, of course, but it's much more fun. What is the practical outlet for a modern day opera? And where would you say practical? Are you not so much? No, people do opera because it's cool and fun. Nobody gets rich. But that's not my mission right now. The mission right now is to do things that are fun and cool and interesting. We'll put it up on its feet. Where does it end up? Like it's ultimately. Where would we perform it? Where could we see it?

24:08Oh, okay. My last, well, I've played with the Royal Opera in London, ended up at Covent Garden. I've played with the Deutsche National Theatre ending up in, in Vymar in the premier opera house in the land. My last opera went up in Italy, which is Italy is like the Nashville of opera composing as of opera because every man, woman, and child in Italy knows from opera. So to get a hit opera in Italy is a very big deal, which I did. Actually, you mentioned Chrissy Hines. She wrote a couple songs for that one. It's called The Witches See. She herself hates opera and she, she's, I'll tell you a little short story. This opera was commissioned by an Italian opera company. They wanted it's up in the Italian Alps in northern Italy. And they wanted me to commemorate the dark time of the witches, the witch hunts. And they had these women tell their story and how they were falsely accused and any excuse for the guys to get their stuff. They call them a witch burn them at the stake and take their stuff. And I figured, well, it's a woman's story.

25:12Maybe I ought to go talk to a woman. So I called up Chrissy and she says, which is fantastic. I love which is this is going to be great. We can have flames coming out of their tits. It's going to be great. And I had to go Chrissy, Chrissy, if they have flames coming out of their tits, it would rather suggest that their guilty is charged. And then I'm thinking, why is that a problem? This is a much better, I said, right there, just right there she improved the opera 500%. And then, okay, she starts sending me pages and pages of lyrics and some of which involve the witches are now milking the farm boys. I guess I better go talk to the Italians. Anyhow, I talked them into it and it was a big hit. It played in different cities, you know, played up in the mountains and it played a million. And to have a hit opera in Italy is a very big hit. I don't know a lot about opera, although I do know most people don't.

26:12You know, yellow has a song about opera, a pop song that you should probably listen to. Jeff Lin, probably late 70s. I'm trying to, I'll think of an event for a second. I'll ask him about that. He's a chocolate buddy over here. Jeff Lin, I like to think of his a genius. Sonic sort of genius. I had a really good interview with him once and I found it very interesting. But Rockarya, Rockarya is the name of the song. It's a fun song. It's very yellow. It has an opera singer in it and it's about a woman who loves opera. But it's very, it's very, it's very pop progressive, whatever. Italy is interesting for me because I watch all these car shows and I see these Lamborghinis and these

27:14Ferraris and Pinaferina design cars and Bitsarini cars. It's happened. I realize they all come from Italy. All the most beautiful automobile examples come from Italy like mid 60s, late 60s. Italy is cool. So Italy is way more cool. You know, it's different. They're Italians. That's it. They got a lot, must be the olive oil. I don't know, but I love Italy. I try and go back there every summer. But you know what? I used to drive a Cherokee. I'm not a car guy. But I was a Cherokee guy forever. And then when Fiat bought Cherokee, I was able to brag. My Jeep is now an Italian sports car. Oh, they brought Chrysler. But then, okay. But recently, I got an electric car, electric Porsche. And that's all electric. And man, what they don't, you know, I always thought electric car was for like, you know, prissy kind of like tree huggers or something like that. You can't be a man in electric vehicle.

28:18But man, you step on the gas. I will leave your Lamborghini in my dust. The torque on those things. I never had any idea. I thought I was being environmentally friendly. I don't know why. It's cool car. But what I didn't expect you step on the gas and that electric thing, I can't go back to it. My wife's still in the Mercedes. It sounds like an old Sherman tank. Now, you're right. You get hooked on instant torque and electric cars are instant torque. And there is like a little bit of a problem, which is I'll see a guy behind me in a Tesla on the freeway. And at some point, he makes a move because he has the instant torque. Like he literally tries to squeeze into a spot and make a move that you wouldn't do with an old school car because an old school car, there's lag. It goes, uh, it's got a drop of gear. Do you really want me to go faster now? Yes. You know, it's sort of like

29:20you hit the gas and the rest of the freeway was standing still. There is one drawback. One drawback, which is that this was feels you step on the gas and that's a muscle car, right? Only thing is, it sounds like a golf car. This is the most testosterone packed golf car I've ever seen. There's going to be a phenomenon between electric cars and everyone walking with earbuds where we're going to get a lot more people run over because you cannot hear those electric cars. And even if you could hear them, you got your earbuds in and you're walking the dog. And I sometimes turn around and the guy's just right behind me on the side street in his Tesla. I just got a Tesla as well. And I agree, uh, electric car, it's actually more, more of a muscle car than a muscle car because of how much quicker it is, especially like zero to 60 instant torque. I'm with the 100 percent and you're talking

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32:32are landing all summer long. Catch anchor man, the legend of Ron Burgundy. Fantastic. The matrix trilogy. Welcome to the real world. Mean girls. Side up. I'm the key in the world. And so much more for showtime. Press nothing. They're free 24 seven. That is so effective. On Pluto TV stream now. Pay never. So are you living in LA or staying in LA? Yeah, I live here now. I'm from California now. I grew up all over the world but I've settled here now and now I'm from California. What what was the Middle East like back when you're with your dad doing doing what he was doing versus now? Is there a big difference? Yeah, it was great. It was really great. Bay root was described as the Paris of the Middle East. Then it was described as the Sarajevo of the Middle East. Now it's just war-torn Bay root. But the Lebanese are amazingly resilient people. You know and you know after their civil war I

33:36visited and you would see a whole street of blown up stores and one store has glass in the window and behind that glass the latest deorifics. Yeah, really. The Lebanese got class. Wow. And so you've lived all over the world. What got you to London early in the music scene? What brought you there? Well my dad's best buddy turned out to be a Soviet double agent. Name a Kim Fildy famous British MI5 guy and the Copeland's in the Filbys were two parallel families with matching kids and we used to go and you know play you know in the Crusader castles and one day his best chuckel buddy disappears and ends up in Moscow and was a double agent. Well that fucked everything up and so he had to get his family out of Dodge which by that time was just me because Miles had gone off to college in Birmingham. Linny had gone off to Vassar, Ian had run away to Vietnam leaving me and I was shipped over to London. It was about 1968 kind of

34:43thing and actually coming from what was called the third world to London. First thing I had to do was figure out well you can't take a piss on the streets anywhere in London. What's the matter with these people? So uptight. What is that? Did you start you know music? Drummers are visceral and it probably shows up early. Mike this part yeah yeah I need I need I'm doing a time thing here. That's what I'm doing. How long do I need to know what time it is? Sorry. So musicians like like drummers you know like when I interviewed Tommy Lee once and he said when he was sick he was just banging on pots and pans you know that's right. Is that worth started with you? So tell me tell me about like was it just in you? Did anyone expose you to it or was it always just kind

35:48of there? It's kind of there and there's nothing much you can do about it. If you have that gene you got a bang stuff. I was that kid in class banging on his knees tapping my feet probably like Tommy and I picked up all the other instruments too guitar bass and drums. But drums was really the one I was a diminutive kid. Last of four kids the youngest late bloomer and but as soon as I started banging on those drums I became an 800 pound silver back mother fucker swinging through the trees and besides that Janet McRoberts was impressed. Okay this is what I'm gonna do for a living. And did did your name Janet McRoberts? I was 12 and Janet McRoberts was just a deal. Oh my god that was such a deal back then. God it was your dad and mom or family where they support him of it. Oh yeah my mother you know she actually my dad raised me on white big band jazz which is why I don't

36:51do it. Actually I have to clarify. I'd like to take the piss out of jazz but one thing I have to be clear about is I love jazz fans. Jazz listeners are the best audience because they pay good money to hear you play your cool stuff you know and my favorite kind of jazz the fact the only kind of jazz I really like is when I'm playing it or Stanley Clark but you know so my father raised me on jazz but meanwhile my mother was listening to Stravinsky WC Revelle which is 20th century classical music that's stuck that you know that's why I do orchestral music now is pretty much my mother's influence and she never said a word about it she just played it and I heard it. So your dad even though it seems like his background was a little different than you know traditional your dad had a very untraditional background but he also had that jazz background and are the love of jazz and so was it clear that this was going to work at a fairly young age for you like 1618? No.

38:00I never thought I'd actually do it for a living you know and when I was in college I started a magazine my brother my brother my brother started a music empire and I wrote it for bands and I did everything in the business and then one day it just the music part just kept calling me back one day I found myself actually in the band instead of tour managing the band and I wrote it you know I wrote it for Wishbone. Wow he better out. Oh yeah oh yeah I got them Grammys and other bullshit man but hey I wrote it for Wishbone. Well I don't want to brag but I did set up all those candles when you guys shot that video and A&M records on the sound stage. Get out of here. Get things up and I remember and that son of a bitch knocked them all down. Sting knocked them all down it was a fire hazard it was literally I remember very well I was working for A&M records painting I wasn't doing anything there other than painting their cycle

39:06arama and by the way for your listeners for your listeners this is happening in the Charlie Chaplin studio at A&M records and I showed up one day to paint because I just painted that big cycle arama and I was told oh they're going to do I think it was wrapped around your finger um so I was told uh we're doing that we're doing a police video and instead of painting we have a bunch of six foot long dowels and we're going to put them in Christmas tree stands those kind of little kits where you would screw thumb screw for Christmas tree we'll put them all the Christmas tree stand and we'll paint them flat black and we'll put these candles on top of them and so today you're just going to be putting together together these Christmas tree stands and spray painting these dowels black and then you're going to put it on there and then we're going to put a candle on it and then Sting is going to walk through it looking very serious and knock them over

40:10and that's that's what I did so that that's kind of insane that I was there setting up that shoot probably one of the police's most I don't know popular videos probably are yeah well that's probably our second most popular every breath you take was the big one uh but that was pretty big too not my favorite song by the way but um I had to do my shoot first because I had a flight to catch and so I missed the part where Sting did his part and he knocked all the candles down um but I saw the result it was a pretty good video you know he's pretty pretty good at that stuff well I mean Sting looks the part he sounds the part yeah man I mean see that big see that big house I live in that's how good he looks the part yeah you know so it's kind of it's kind of weird to sort of go well this guy's head strong he does it his way he's he's got ideas we don't have the same ideas

41:10but in another hand all those ideas are making me rich so you know it's an interesting place to be in as a young person right yeah yeah I didn't really see it that is absolutely true but I didn't see it that way when I was a young hothead I see it now um at the time it was just great music he'd come in with a great song we'd play that let's play that you know because it started out with all my songs my crap fake punk songs which are basically just bass lines with yelling and when he went Andy joined that's when the lid opened uh and out came the monster how did something like Roxanne begin how does how does how does the process work for a song like that well a particular song began in a in the red light district in Paris when he was beguiled by some hooker he saw on the street and thought well there's probably a real person in there and so he wrote that song about such a person

42:14that was when we were hunking out in Paris we were hanging out with Gen X which was Billy Ida's band and the rest of us all were carousing around Paris whilst thingo was walking lonely as a cloud and uh I guess had this dalliance with a with a prostitute there or didn't who knows any out great song came out of it and he wrote it as a bossan nova uh brings it into the police band room where we fucked it all up how complete was it like it's got so many kind of layers how is complete well well the song as distinct from the arrangement and the recording and the performance was complete the melody the lyric the chords were done how they shall be done I mean it was bum and we turned it into the Roxanne that you're familiar with that's that's what bands do two songs and and those early days when it was all we were all mutually co-dependent we could do that

43:17And then in later years when a proven track record made the material a little bit less malleable that's when it started to feel like we're playing sessions here and it became more difficult. Yeah so I've kind of experienced that as well because I had a partner at Jimmy Kimmel who became very successful was very successful guy and you know as people get more successful they get a little less malleable in terms of like well there's your opinion there's my opinion they get a little they get a little more set in their ways and it's based on success you know well I'm sure you I'm sure I can put money on the fact that you've heard like hey look I know funny well you know it's I'm telling you because I'm an expert I know what's funny it's kind of it's kind of interesting in that Jimmy knows he would always say I'm the funny guy he knows so it wasn't

44:22a like I I know funny more than you know funny it wasn't it wasn't that it was just we're having a lot of success I'm having a lot of success whatever the stuff I do works and I'm no you know we're no longer gonna turn this into a vote it's it's it's not a democracy it's a theocracy now like I'm just gonna do what I'm gonna do I'm not gonna prevent you from doing what you want to do but you know it's it always starts off as you know you got three people and it's 33% 33% 33% and then at some point the percentages start to shift over to the person who's bringing in the hit songs or coming up with a hit TV shows or whatever and it's no longer everyone has a vote someone has two votes and you have one vote and then it turns into something different then it's started well I had one big advantage saved me from that fate because of

45:28course as thingo had his his his musicality confirmed by writing hit after hit and the guy doesn't know how to write a hit and not only that he knows that arrange it too but what saved me was a combination of my laziness and his impatience we would do you know the the last three albums the drums were recorded about 20 minutes after I heard the song for the first time wow because he would only reveal it he would reveal his songs on an as-needed basis so as long as it takes for Andy to learn the chords that's how long I got to figure out what rhythm I'm gonna do and okay Andy you got it okay let's do a take and I'd go and we'd we'd do one take or then maybe another take and they'd say great great that's fine sir that's great great great sure because they're all in a hurry because they want to do their overdops that's the fun part for the guitars and everything else they want to do their overdops get we in an old in times you need to do the drums first so get the drums I'll get spot store it's

46:30fine it's fine go hit the pool we now we can do our thing and so that impatience and I was you know about the second or third take so all those police records the drums you hear on them are a hundred percent spontaneous that's what came up with in those particular three minutes of all eternity in fact the next take in the previous take were completely different and so I think you know eventually we would rehearse and go out on tour and play these songs night after night and I would figure out exactly how to get from the chorus back down to the verse you know whereas when we made the record I was just you know improvising and I think well I wish we could record that again now that I know but you know what the records kind of didn't suck and so I think that spontaneity that feeling of exploration a couple things first of all it gives it an X factor second of all it got the band off my back yeah I think kind of the phenomenon you're talking about is and I think and you would experience

47:34this when you're doing spoken word as well so it's as if they one out and recorded your first night of spoken word they said we're gonna make an out of this and we're gonna record the first night just like if they recorded a first night of doing stand up by the time you get to the end of the tour you've added so much found so much done so much nuance and you go oh it's better now then they go we're going with the tape we took on the first night and you go don't use that yeah yeah use all the new things I found and how much better it is so but you know what Adam I suspect I haven't heard your version of that but I know exactly what you're talking about but I'll bet you that first tape from the first night or two has an X factor all of its own yeah no I that is that is equal to the finally honed versions that you ended up with at the end of the tour I mean you take a listen to a song like so lonely in the drumming is so visceral and it you know like it almost feels like a reaction to

48:41something it feels like you don't want I don't want to hear the hundredth version of that drumming I want to hear the instinctual sort of early first version of it because it sounds so visceral for lack of a better term well that was actually a different environment that was like I think our first album and our first album we had played the song we knew the songs and we've been playing them all over and then we went at the studio and recorded record them knowing how the song goes but that time the constraint was not ignorance the constraint was money we only had like we got to record three songs today and Ramalama Blama slamma and that's where the energy of those first couple albums comes from and then when we started to get rich and famous and like our third albums in yada the record company is literally in the studio with us saying hmm this is the hit that's the hit I don't know about you know they're arguing about what's the hit while we're trying to make a record here and

49:42that's when it went from being a hungry fake punk band into a genuine pop sensation do you guys who did you guys tour with early on I always ask this question because it's always interesting to hear about bands who you're toured with coming out and sometimes they're going on the way down yeah well XTC the beat the specials you be 40 on go boingo I think my you know John jet did a bunch of one tour but my favorite band on tour by far the best opening act on the planet was the go because they were just having their first hit and we're playing I think I think we're still in arenas in those days and and they five women come out there with just and we we were old campaigners by

50:44now we're all salty dogs but them having a them on tour experiencing that thrill of the rollercoaster ride it just it was infectious we enjoyed having them around the go goes is where the party was yeah because they were young and fresh and just live in the dream and you know if I carelessly woke us back up but they affect on the audience was the big deal they came out there okay they weren't you know exactly blood sweat and tears in terms of proficiency they weren't stealing then but they just got out there in their energy and their songs they lit the room up so the by the time we get out there the joints already rocking and that was I would give them my vote for best support active all time and by the way at the end of that tour the day after the tour finished their album knocked our album off the number one spot in the charts thank god yeah and and they went on in their next tour they were headlining the same shows XDC's a band I love I feel like they're not they don't get their

51:47do I don't know people even kind of remember them to a certain degree really interesting layered songs I don't know if you could pull any of that off live yeah well they they had a big problem which was Andy who was a big central factor of the band he had horrible insurmountable stage a Gauraphobic and yeah and so my brother Ian was their agent and he finally had them booked in the big places this is a breakout tour in America they were they were gonna finally you know seal the deal and Andy calls up day before the tour says I can't do it I can't do it I can't do it and that was it for XDC XDC had some really interesting smart like really I don't know that everyone even remembers them I don't know if you can hear me or not oh god how do we how do we end up here Mike I by the way Adam Adam you sound great to me I can't hear

52:53really good great sound maybe it's the earpiece it's good you're good they are just there it sounds like when you're operas I thought we're getting a room I know you got a big bad room there you got a biggest room in Dallas XDC Jesus Christ hold on let me look for a second oh my god all right it never it never fails XDC had really smart songs interesting songs like melodic songs and like well produced songs and they're just a sort of forgotten band I would say but people should go back and acquaint themselves with XDC absolutely I endorse them yeah I agree and it's it's kind of sad that he was a Gora phobic and just wouldn't go out and produce a song all right I'm not sure what to do because of the because of the music here I'm but we're

54:01almost at the end of our time anyway so I want to give you a plug Stewart and I want to thank you for being a good sport because I thought we're gonna get a room to do this and I didn't know we're gonna be in the middle of an arena with music flaring you know and hear any of it I can do it so it's kind of you know where it part is is I I hear it so loud in my head but I'm gonna continue on because I'm a professional Stewart I'm gonna continue on hard hard so what do you look do you look what do you look forward most to doing do you like doing spoken word do you like doing opera do you like doing a book I mean is it just the variety of it for you is that the real pleasure like not having to go the same place and that's the same thing every day nailed it you know the

55:05banging drums I love doing that I love doing that in front of an audience but it's almost unrelated to composing for a big orchestra concerto for an or opera that's a different brain a different guy and those two aspects refresh each other and then the the spoken word tour let's call it sit down comedy that is a I never saw that coming I never dreamed in a million years that would I would enjoy that so much I just got back from five weeks out there and give me more I love it but there are three really unrelated missions and I guess the variety is what keeps all three of them fresh yeah no I agree I was talking to someone today I read somewhere that Jimmy Kimmel's gonna do one more year on his late night show and then he's gonna hang it up in the late night department and I said yeah because you're in show business but you're having to go to the same place every single day and kind of do the same thing and even

56:09though it's a great job and you're in show business and it's creative it's you're still showing up to the same place every day you know and to me the variety part is the best part at best part of any job but it's like people say like what what food do you like well I like Thai food but I like Mexican food but I like a steak joint and a martini the answer is is whatever one I had last night I want something different this night and whatever I said my favorite after three nights of it I'd be I'd be full of it so it's a variety well you're kind of popping a bubble here you know because to me you know I was in Vegas one time and I'm in a big fancy hotel and that's the size waiting for the elevator the big double doors to the presidential suite open and it was oh I forget some huge Vegas star and I thought fuck cool and then I thought fuck that's a great gig you just like roll down stairs get in the elevator go to go to work by elevator wow and then one day Andy Summers took a job with the Arsenio show

57:16was it or said no it wasn't it was some another comedian that he that had a nightly show and Andy was the musician MD kind of guy and thought wow what a great gig every day a limo picks him up at two o'clock in the afternoon whatever he's got to workout some razors to a song about night big live everybody because the sea he lasted about two weeks before I started to drive in next I agree now they're singing oh beautiful speaking of hotel rooms I had something happening my hotel room which is I took a nap and water started pouring down from the ceiling of the suite I was in and my suite started to flood and I had to move yeah I know nothing's ever happened so I've actually have had that I have had that we're suddenly yeah I burst somewhere and you get you like what's going on here and they can't like fix it no you got to move here this song behind me now no I can't hear anything noise you are absolutely clang-calling

58:22earbuds you're living we're talking you know I'm talking to a guy who's living in a cacophony while I'm calmly hearing all of your words I literally have the marine orchestra behind me and an opera singer singing of America the beautiful behind me and it's as loud oh the Dennis Miller show yeah now I agree having to go the least rock and roll and the least artistic thing you can do is go to the same place every single day and do the same thing even if you're a star and getting millions of dollars and I totally agree with that but maybe I'm just being convenient yeah I don't care about the rock and roll part I'm 74 years old father of mini I have rock I have rolled so I'm just looking for kicks I don't care if it's rock and roll so let me give you a plug and

59:24hopefully the next time we speak we'll be in the friendly confines of my studio yeah where is your studio where you live I'm in Burbank California all right yeah California California I'm in Brentwood California we can work this out all right and probably neither of us serve are we know real Californians no I know all right the spoken word tour and because like I said I don't have the buy on front of me because the hotel didn't print it out whatever it is where where can we find your tour and the next place you're gonna be Stewart Copeland well you can go to my Instagram I think it's Stewart Copeland music whatever my Instagram thing is and you will see calendar right there all right Stewart always great catch it up with you and like I said next time we'll do it in person the studio and we'll have the acoustics necessary great talk

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1:02:31massive audience it's time to go pro and turn your passion into profit visit podcast one pro dot com to get started today podcast one pro the power behind the podcast all right well hopping around the globe Andrew and I are back in Maui again lots of work lots of travel we don't want to leave you guys hindrider news so we're always trying to offer something thanks to Andrew's technical expertise we're able to do this so we have the news queued up and ready to go so does so says Andrew on a personal note if you want to know I'm a really good mood because in achievement I just had which is I made the rest of the horrible doctor pepper sausage for Mike now if people want to know who I am or how I

1:03:32work this is how I work that was the worst sausage I've ever tasted my life and I think it was the worst thing I've ever eaten in my life you know I'm you know bar stuff that it spoiled there's something are going south it's just the worst thing I've ever eaten that was made commercially and prepared safely yeah I will say that but if you want to have wired there's two full sausages were left from the other day and I hate the idea throwing the way meat and the reason I hate the idea throwing the way meat is I feel like that thing was a pig it gave its life it didn't ask for doctor pepper you know what I mean like it thought maybe it was gonna be a breakfast patty which is the best sausage or possibly a link or maybe some kabasa it had no idea that it was gonna get doused in synthetic doctor pepper ruined and I mean and it's like I look at it

1:04:33this way well let's just say Andrew you me and Mike were just stranded after typhoon and the power gone out and we really got pretty desperate and we needed to eat one of us you know what I mean and obviously that would be you so then let's just say Mike and I killed you and you're like well at least you two will make it and then at some point after we killed you I was like I don't feel like eating and we just tried you out to the curb to rot yeah be no good right but what before you tried some like Mountain Dew infused recipe and it tastes like shit and you're like it's yeah yeah yeah we yeah we we infused you with Mountain Dew and I was like experiment gone wrong dump them in the ocean yeah and and I would feel bad because that was like you're you're one of God's creatures thank you and now not his favorite but one of them and now you're gone and I feel that way about the pig it didn't make the choice to be infused with doctor pepper so I and I just don't like throwing away food so and and those of you who think it's a

1:05:37money thing a pox upon you I have I had cared nothing about the money as a matter of fact if you said to me you already spent eight bucks on the sausage you're gonna throw it away I'll go I'll give you another eight bucks if someone will eat the sausage yeah so now the good news is is we're traveling with the stone pelican and Michael eat anything so I had two full sausages which is a lot they're big yesterday I cut up three and we split three this time there's two left I said Mike I'm gonna make you scramble he said go ahead I said I cut up the two more sausages I cooked them up and I gotta say standing over the pan I was getting nauseated like it's smell it's I think it it smells like someone lit a clown on fire that was the smell that was coming up and I don't even know what a clown smells like but if you could just close your eyes and go imagine if a clown was lit on fire the smell that would come off of that fire that's what it smelled

1:06:42like I was I was literally gagging yeah I smelled it was quite smell the me yesterday in the actual receptacle and it smelled like smell it reminded me of a pledge of fraternity and you had to clean up the floor after a party yeah and there was this all these just a mix of chemicals I mean your bodies with RFK junior how would he feel about well he likes protein but he doesn't like Dr. Pepper so yeah so anyway I said Mike I'm making your scramble made him four eggs two sausages salsa I don't know what to do with salsa and Dr. Pepper and half an avocado and a lot of cheese and I mix it all up and I just hand it to him and he said thank you man this is a lot I said go at it he devoured the whole thing and he loved every second so he liked it he smuggled it I smuggled my sausage into my there you go oh there's our house cat oh we got a house cat yeah all right so you got news yeah I got some news this is actually kind of

1:07:44keeping it this is a family affair so my cousin writes for the Wall Street Journal will and he kind of had a blockbuster article come out this week about John Federman the Pennsylvania Senator evidently there is some blowback internally over the the allegations that he's shown limited engagement with basic legislative and constituent responsibilities the investigation investigation notes is a Senate that the senator frequently prioritizes media appearances and advocacy over actual official duties as a senator which is I feel like that's everyone yeah I like that like that does feel like feels like a OC to or whoever everyone news news and doesn't even live in California as far as I can tell he just goes to like Alabama hugs black people well he's in the South right now funny you should say that he's in the South basically I

1:08:49mean don't get me wrong I'm kind of glad when he leaves California but I the notion that these people are in charge you know he says it all times like the fourth biggest economy in the world like I feel like if you're essentially in charge of the fourth biggest economy in the world you want to spend some time in your office right yeah well I mean here's the thing I kind of see I see it both ways because it feels like that's the ballgame now where it's like yeah you have to do your jobs but you also have to kind of keep up appearances because people need to know who you are to vote for you yeah I know no I'm just saying I would like a job to I think anyone would like a job where they just travel around and met people and then when you weren't like but you're still working for that roofing company back at North Hollywood right yeah yeah I'm keeping appearances yeah no I mean I still get a full salary like yeah but you're

1:09:52traveling everywhere just having lunch at diners with you know civil rights leaders yeah yeah for the company the roofing company yeah it's like okay Newsom did he was in the South last week because he is gonna run in 2028 it's going awesome that's it that'll be interesting but Federman has recently blast disgruntled ex-staffers and smears after after this report he is basically saying he's chalking this all up to kind of disgruntled staffers that have basically they will they've created an anonymous account on X where they're just publishing text messages and also talking about unflattering details about the senator with the expectation that there might be more to come well he's got target on his back right I mean in terms of where he stands in the Democratic Party and his takes on Israel and stuff I mean he's a

1:10:52marked man isn't he what's interesting he is somebody who ran as a Democrat but again it is just moved yeah he's just he's just being consistent yeah he's he's like I was gonna say Democrat you know we used to have to go back like yeah back when Clinton was president he was a you know he wanted a stout border and he wanted lower taxes and like we used to have to go back 30 years to find a Democrat now you just go back like nine months yeah it's not even you don't have to go back that far they just went nuts in the last 10 minutes and he's not going nuts yeah well you know it what's your cousins politics now he's he's pretty down the main he my cousin is a he's a great journalist but he's also very ready we're in he can use from sports journalism uh-huh that was his original beat when he wrote for the Washington Post so he's not going to fabricate

1:11:52anything he will call balls and strikes he is one of the most level-headed guys have ever met so he's not going to yeah he he's right down the middle right down the pike and we'll also is the kind of guy who he wouldn't even disclose that and I don't think you could tell his politics from reading it because he he's a guy who you know he is a journalist through and through and he does care about the ethics and the responsibilities of all right quit sucking up I'll suck out while yeah listen buddy I'll suck my cousin all right what else we got well you know what was funny you were talking about the doctor pepper infused sausages because AI I don't remember touching on that but I'll think you weren't yeah we did AI me soon it's still smelling here holy shit by the way Mike leveled that plate he had four eggs two huge sausages ton of cheese avocado and there he just fucking mode through that it's

1:12:55all gone we need to get off at a huge walk this morning man yeah it's cruising the island dude looking for the action well speaking of a film bet for that pig AI AI may soon allow humans to talk with animals hmm but some say it could violate the animals right to privacy very ethical well listen women have been talking animals for over a hundred years but animals haven't been answering you know what I mean women turned to talk to animals and then they answer for the animal they go do you love your mummy do you love you yes you do yes you see they've been providing both sides of the argument you're both you're going to be so disappointed with me if you were to actually see me I know those little fucking dogs should be putting that t-shirt cannon and fired this direction of a family take care of them oh I love those guys oh big little I

1:14:00don't know my my my nanny had a chihuahua which is it's it's the worst it's probably like the worst creature like earwigs are better than chihuahua I love them a pet might I love much I never pet dust might a pet a pet pubic crab a pet earwig than a pet chihuahua you're missing out that's all right machine learning models are paving the way to catalog and even mimic the sounds animal make animals make to communicate with each other with researchers touting the technology as a way to better understand the the world of animals I mean this is just this is just the future though with AI when you're gonna have you know data centers filled with essentially 200 plus IQs working around the clock seamlessly with each other I mean also this is kind of this is really gonna

1:15:03interrupt masturbation for dudes with girlfriends and dogs you know what I mean like they're close to the door we can't do it in there you're only sat a town you know hey guess what Phil is up there yeah oh yeah oh yeah he was he was looking at stuff on his phone and wasn't you that all right well this is but basically the build to speak with animals because also post-angers to the natural world experts said the controversy involves a technique known as playback which is the practice of broadcasting recorded animal calls in the wild yeah I don't know you know find out birds have well you be able to talk to crow's man you don't need to talk to crows I know what what you're doing I thought you'd be excited for this now I I don't need you don't need to talk to crows or dogs they just need to understand what they're supposed to do like

1:16:05when you talk to those seal guys and they're talking about their dogs going on raids and stuff then a dog doesn't mean if they're telling what to do they can just smell the terrorists and they just I don't know they don't have to point out they smell them can you imagine how dialed in your attack crows will be well my so the thing about my cat grows is you know dogs who sniff out drugs they're not sniffing out drugs they're they're trying to get their toy you know I know how that works yeah they think they're they're looking for their toy and when they smell cocaine it needs their toys like in that suitcase which got a suck for Pablo Escobar and whoever is carrying the drugs you know what I mean but they think they're getting their toy and my cat grows they're they're gonna they all they want is reward all they want is a couple kernels of corn they don't really care about in T5 they don't care about these dumb ice you know protesters yeah they don't care about school

1:17:09shooters they don't care about any any or the crazy Mexican lady with two knives middle of Manhattan all they want is their corn you understand and the way to get their corn is to knock that bitch down with their two knives in the middle Manhattan and go after the fucking ice protest by the way the internet would explode if there was footage of a murder of crows dive bombing these fat white dumb lefty bitches are down there protesting ice and they're just getting hit in the head by by crows the internet would explode and everyone would love it and by the way there wouldn't you know less than lethal I mean no we're good shot it'd be awesome yeah well the billionaire that's funding this project he says that they will most likely reach their goal through AI by 2030 so that is their their moonshot for the decade is open communication with

1:18:15animals which could get interesting I had a sad realization today I spent my whole life thinking about flying cars there's at the promise of the flying car oh yeah my whole life the flying car and I figure and there's two threats there was the flying car and your robot is gonna turn on you and kill you like technology is gonna kill those are the two things as if you're of a certain age your whole life it was like you're getting a flying car one day oh yeah but technology AI and big computers and robots and how or whatever they're gonna kill you and it looks to me from the way things are kind of shaping up I feel like I'm gonna be on my way to the flying car dealership when I'm killed by my robot like I feel like they're they're both happening and I don't

1:19:16think I'm gonna get into that flying car but I do think I'm gonna be killed by AI but right before I get that flying car yeah that's so I guess flying car for you that would be a Jetson thing whereas for me it was more of a back to the future part two thing it's it's it's both it's like yeah it's Jetsons it's like you can go back and look at popular science right yeah and popular science on 1959 it'll be a flying car well it's a Volkswagen Beetle with a Cessna tail and a Cessna engine in front and like clip on wings and it's not a flying car it's a Volkswagen with wings on yeah it's a mini helicopter now it's not it's not not even really that it's just like literally just like wings in a tail and a Volkswagen a prop like it's just stupid it's not a flying car it's a shitty car and a shitty plant yeah but they're now like doing like a flying car

1:20:16like they're doing electric flying cars now but it's not quite yet it's not totally accessible in blah blah blah but again I'm gonna be killed by a robot just before I least that flying car I'm looking at flying cars online right now they're getting there they're getting there there's all and you know they're quite have all the range and you gotta watch yeah let's see what you're looking at is it's an airplane sitting on top of a fucking UGO you know that's bullshit but they're the flying cars are getting there and I think it's because of the battery technology battery technology and also automated they're electric oh yeah yeah they're I mean computers but the batteries are light enough and last long enough to get you know 150 miles range we'll get there we'll get there you'll see it no I have we will but I'll be killed by my robot that the day I go to pick the car that's all I'm saying all right well speaking of flight oh man this the story is kind of wild so an airline passenger had to be duct taped to

1:21:25his seat and we will slug this photo in after a a basically like an an N word anti-gay slur meltdown and he was later ID'd as an Arizona realtor look at this guy yeah that's funny oh man yeah anyway what can't duct tape do yeah he's in there it's it's amazing and you can almost like he's sitting in first class it's got the bulkhead behind him right yeah so if you got a bulkhead behind you in a wide seat with a wide arm birth next to you you're either in the back of the plane or you're in the front of plane but if the bulkhead's behind you you're in the back of the front but he's in the front he's in first class this guy got a first class ticket this guy is no joke and then and then the duct tape him to the seat but was he being violent or is he just being racist I think he was being racist and homophobic he kept he kept using slurs and they

1:22:28had to was from Dallas to Newark they had the whole Dallas to Newark and they had to land in Baltimore that's how bad it was dad okay Dallas and Newark is about three and a half three three three three I don't bother looking it's three it's about three three and change how's that was about two and a half why does why does Baltimore I mean I I would be the worst person when someone freaked out on the plane because I just be like let's not land in Baltimore let's just go to Newark it's another 22 minutes like it's but I mean it's Baltimore that much closer than than Newark from from Dallas no that's I don't get it why do you have to land in Baltimore well I was being so disruptive I think I know well I'm saying let's go to Newark where we're supposed to go so you're saying just just ride it out like it's screaming look on your look on your phone look tell your computer Baltimore

1:23:29Dallas to Baltimore miles not not flight time or whatever and then Dallas to New York miles I don't I don't get the Baltimore part maybe that's maybe I don't know that area as well Dallas and Baltimore 1360 1366 miles all right Dallas to Newark 1500 38 that's that's that's what I'm saying okay okay it's another you would be in first class 170 miles I'm gonna be staying the fucking plane for another 15 minutes and we'll go to where my fucking wife picking us up yeah you would tell the pilot he's in there look he's locked in he's not going anywhere again this photo I can't believe the flight is the flight from the flight time flight time from Dallas to Newark and flight time from Dallas to Baltimore it's it I said 22 minutes as another 19 minutes yeah that would be yeah that's like a half

1:24:33hour look it up look it up again I'm saying why not once you're in flight and you're you're going 575 miles an hour I don't think I don't think it's in that it's a half hour even let's say less the the point is this everyone here is going to Newark we got shit to do people are picking us up from the airport why don't we just stay on this plane for another 19 minutes and we'll get the fucking Newark I hate when they divert all right time one hour in the air one hour more in air 38 to 50 minutes so just give me flight flight time that's like that yeah no flight time from Dallas to Baltimore that's what I need I know I think you're gonna end up at the same number I don't think you're gonna fly time from Dallas to Baltimore yeah here we go yeah I mode here we go this is

1:25:39good but I'm angry though two hours 40 minutes to three hours that's Dallas to Baltimore all right Dallas to Newark flight time three hours and 30 minutes all right so it's longer yeah it is longer not significantly and I would argue once you land in Baltimore you're gonna be on a fucking ground for two hours now wait I'll do this guys what does that yellow thing let me see what this is those look like I think those are zip ties oh that's a zip tie yeah but why not have for yourself get some big zip ties the zip tie you know you need ooh you need ratchet straps not duct tape yeah you need tie down like we're putting motorcycles in the back I think up trucks that guy looked like he had some his muscle on him yeah to go look at that so he just was drinking he

1:26:40was let's see was he was he drunk or was he just having a full on mental by the way when you have a mental breakdown in your 55 year old dude the the 67 look 60 or seven year old dude the right the the racial and the homophobic slurs just come out you don't even have to be homophobic or racist you know what I'm saying like when guys get really drunk yeah like when guys get drunk so was this but I don't know was this like a cramer moment where he just laws control himself what's going on oh man look at the tape his his his he his profile was scrubbed from the realty company that he was a vice president of so yeah it's probably gonna have to retire early I work with that guy I just gonna like look what is what's what's the average guy get a like a 4% commission or you split 5% 2

1:27:43and a half 2 and a half or whatever it's like I give you 1% so you're gonna parlay this yes yes he's obviously good at realtor and your thing is not a bad realtor he's vice president of a big company in Arizona he knows how to move real estate is 67 he's been in the game for 40 years now this guy's a season veteran and now you can get him for pennies on the tower because he's been displaced someone who loves local commercials I mean this guy to be like you're gonna need a lot of duct tape to stop me from getting you the best deal you know you mean in doing got to lean into it you just gotta say like I will zip tie like we will we will not be diverting we're gonna go we're gonna land this plane in your future home yeah yeah yeah and we pick up sponsorships like gorilla glues probably coming out of their own duct tape and we get this guy in on it smart you're right all right what else we got oh man all right so this

1:28:44is a you've been watching any of the US open right now I'm not gay oh man it's it's a fine sport oh really give it a whirl college football sound there college football or watching guys play tennis hmm that's gonna be a tough one all right well this is a story you can kind of sink your teeth into entitled influencers treating the US open like their personal movie sets are ruining the action for actual fans so there's a lot of people at the US opens now that and again everybody's just everybody has a brand and an image you know a lot like Federman where you have to just constantly yeah put out media but now you know at public events like this you have people putting together tic-tocs and it's annoying the gentry they don't like it yeah it's the feature of the society that you know and that's the interesting thing I started when I started making films in high school you know I felt I was so

1:29:48sheep is about bringing like a camera somewhere into a supermarket to steal a shot and now everyone it's just yeah it's just people just I like there's no self-awareness and the camera has not slowed things down I always said this I was like there's there's a guy imagine this guy Andrew you imagine this guy the guy who said we're gonna put a surveillance camera into every liquor store and every mini mall and like we're just gonna put some random cameras in every 7-11 and then no 7-11 will ever be robbed again and no black people ever fighting a 7-11 or Popeye chicken or anywhere because we'll have cameras everywhere then we'll know who they are and we'll be able to rest them and we'll humiliate them so as we put these cameras everywhere this activity she'll cease to happen there'll be no more of this behavior anymore because

1:30:53there's cameras everywhere and there are cameras everywhere and people have turned into fucking animals now it's like it's like putting up a camera in a fucking panda cage at the zoo and that panda's over there and he's like fucking a lawn chair you know like right in front of the camera and you go well he doesn't know who about the camera we're like at the point where we're pandas fucking furniture like I know there's a camera I'm still gonna be the shit out of this person and rob them and stab them in front of the camera and I'm not wearing a fucking mask or anything I don't care anymore and I'll feel everything off your porch you can ever ring doorbell camera you watch me walk up and fucking steal all your shit this same person must have must be very depressed now thinking we'll put a camera in every 7-11 and I'll stop them people from fighting and the other person we're talking about is the person who invented the flip cap from top of the ketchup and the mustard what well no more dried out

1:31:55scumb on top of the ketchup because I got a flip cap no no no no sir we can leave it open now we're gonna leave that shit open and we're gonna fight if the 7-11 in the Popeye's chicken you don't know who we are dear well I mean that maybe that's the that's the scariest part of the old well you know that we're in is that like everything is basically we've got flock cameras everywhere we got cameras everywhere we've acknowledged that and we've either forgotten it or choose to just ignore it and we're gonna revert but we I would argue that that used to be that used to be kind of the time is by the way I can't see it right here but I here's here's what I'm gonna argue New Paul I'm gonna argue that much like pests who grow immunity to poisons you know the future generations aren't affected by the farmers poison anymore they've genetically woven their way through it yeah I feel it's that

1:32:59way with like dumb young people and cameras like I don't seem to be bothered or even care that they're being filmed doing whatever they're doing like I see these videos on internet all the time fat chicks fighting one titties out the other ones like smack it on their head their pants are getting pulled down they don't seem to have any thought about this being on the internet now yet they must see it all the time on the internet I just think there used to be I grew up here's a I grew up they put a camera outside of the radio shack and they pointed outside the window and they put a TV monitor there and you know people just stand there and look at the camera like wave and then like try to look at the scene that see yourself on the TV from the camera is a huge novelty and no one took it for granted now no one would ever stop or even say anything or think about it no yeah there's a there in I remember I watched being there two

1:34:00weeks ago there was a scene where Peter Sellers sees himself on on camera and he's blown away by it yes all right I agree that's now in 1978 so the ketchup is dry and the cameras in full effect and nobody cares anymore and these influencers don't give a shit all right another fine job thanks you guys for listening and viewing as we take our show on the road we'll be back in studio very soon I got live shows all over the place then coming up Vegas this weekend over Kimmel's couple shows Friday couple shows Saturday gonna have a crawl that come for all the live shows until next time as Adam Prandt and Stewart Coatlet say it blah blah you can leave us a voicemail at 888-634-174-4 and get tickets to see the ace man Adam Purola dot com

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