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I knew Missouri and Miami basketball were similar, but on further inspection, they are shockingly
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similar, plus why Mark Mitchell and Malik Renaud will be the matchup that decides it all.
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Hey, all you true sons and daughters, I'm John Miller, your Mizzou Mofio, so in the central
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number one sports podcast network.
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And on today's program, I'm going to talk some football too.
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Tigers got a couple of big time in-state commitments on the football field as well.
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course, all of you have seen the pointing Spider-Man meme by now where there are two Spider-Man
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pointing at each other accusatorily?
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Well, that is basically Miami versus Missouri basketball as far as I can tell.
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I had seen some other people write this, so I decided to look for myself and watch Miami
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play some basketball today, some very recent basketball.
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And I have to say I was truly stunned by how similar these teams are.
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And if you look at Mark Mitchell against Malik Renaud, a guy who, well, my guest yesterday,
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Lee Sterling, who is a very close watcher of the Miami Hurricanes along with being the
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host of Locked On Bats, well, he says that Renaud is the Hurricanes best player.
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I think it's pretty obvious, Mark Mitchell is Missouri's best player too.
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And when you know it, they're basically the exact same size.
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Supposedly Renaud is eight pounds heavier, but both are listed at six feet nine.
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I will say that I think Mitchell is a tiny bit more athletic and maybe even a little bit
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more physically strong and just physical, but I will say extremely similar games between
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An interesting thing about it is you see this a lot to guys who are great players who play
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the same position, especially if they play a ton of minutes like both of these guys don't
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necessarily guard each other throughout the game.
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Well, because of how this, again, the similarities of these teams, the way these two teams match
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up, I think Mitchell and Renaud almost have to guard each other really because you've got
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you day on the other side who's a center very much in the in the in the realm of Sean
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Phillips, a guy who does his damage close to the basket.
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That means the matchups are pretty obvious here and I have to say after watching this
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game, I like the matchup a little bit more from from Missouri's perspective than I thought
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And again, back to you day, the Miami center, he shot the ball in the most recent game
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I saw Miami play against Louisville in the in the ACC tournament, you day, they said
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on the broadcast, he shot the ball from an average of 2.8 feet away from the rim, which
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is the shortest distance in the ACC.
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So he's a guy who knows exactly what he is offensively, which is a guy who's going
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to dunk and make putbacks.
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That's basically it.
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So if you're Sean Phillips, if you're Trent Burns, you're not going to have to worry
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about getting taken outside.
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That's why that's one reason why I like this matchup.
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But again, because Renault and Mitchell are very similar, both guys at the four spot,
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at the power forward spot, like to play a lot of bully ball.
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They both like to draw fouls.
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I think they're extremely similar players.
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I will say while I think while both guys like to play bully ball, Renault is clearly
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the better free throw shooter.
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So there is that the whistle is going to matter here.
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There's no doubt about that.
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And it always matters in any Mark Mitchell game, honestly.
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But for the millions of time, because they're similar players, it's going to matter for
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But Renault clearly the better free throw shooter, even though I said, I think Mitchell does have
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a little bit of an athleticism and just a strength advantage overall.
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Even in some ways, the way these two rosters were put together are similar because you
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look at Renault, who is from the Miami area, sort of a homecoming for him, same deal with
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Tray Donaldson, who transferred to Miami.
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He's from the Tallahassee area, played at the same high school as Anthony Robinson, by
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So those two are very familiar with each other and had some highly competitive moments from
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the reporting that I've read.
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And just again, like Renault, a bunch of transfers, sort of coming back home, not unlike
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Mark Mitchell, who, while from Kansas City, Kansas, sort of like East St. Louis, Illinois,
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to me, close enough to Missouri for government work, as I like to say.
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So I think a lot of similarities in the roster positioning here.
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And also just the roster construction, really, I should say, also I think kind of similar
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to 2000 and 23 for Missouri, where the coach, Jay Lucas, in his first year in Miami has
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had one of the most incredible turnarounds you could possibly see.
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And by the way, it's not Jay Lucas, even though it's spelled J.A.I.
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A young man had just turned 37 years old.
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You may remember him as a formal McDonald's All-American, a Florida Gator, a Texas longhorn.
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By the way, son, a former NBA player, John Lucas, the second as well, who had a long NBA
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career, was a head coach in the league as well.
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His son, his other son, John Lucas, the third as older brother played.
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I believe for Oklahoma State, as well, correct me if I'm wrong there, but another, another
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basketball player in a basketball heavy family.
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But as back to Jay Lucas, the use head coach, well, even though this is his first, not only
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his first major job as a head coach, it's his first head coaching job period, we had
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about as good of mentors as you could possibly have, being an assistant coach under Rick
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Barnes, Shaka Smart, John Calapari, and coach Shosheski as well, and even John Shire
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for a little bit as the top assistant at Duke following Shosheski as well.
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And obviously so far, so good, a stunning turnaround.
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Once again, if you listen to my show with Lee Sterling yesterday, he didn't see it coming
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and like Missouri coming into Dennis Gates first year, coming off, I believe what was
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a last place finish in the SEC that season, a similar major, major turnaround for Miami
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this season going three, going, excuse me, 13 and five in the ACC after going three and
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15 in the ACC in Jim Alaronega's last season.
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Now I do have more on the Miami Hurricanes and Missouri's game of course with the Hurricanes
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msu dot super cast dot com and of course well high school recruiting in football isn't
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what it used to be I got to say these days I'm much more interested in high school basketball
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recruiting and by the way some significant news on the basketball court and high school
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recruiting and I need to catch you all up on a little bit later as well but let's start
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on the football field where to me these are some significant additions here don't be
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fooled by the three star ratings that these two players are getting at least that's
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what I saw over 24 seven sports of course depending on where you look you know these
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things can vary but here's the point with Chris Harris Jr. for example Lee summit west six
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foot tall 175 pound wide receiver here's all I really need to know he had an official
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visit with Alabama lined up for this summer before committing to Missouri if Alabama likes
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him well especially Kaelin de Bohr is pretty is a pretty good offensive mind I think him
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his staff have a good eye for talent at the receiver position if they like him I like
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him too and Jacob Piller by the way the Missouri wide receivers coach has a good eye for talent
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that position as well and as usual by the way Kansas State was involved with the Lee summit
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crowd to as well also Oklahoma State reportedly had a visit with this young man too although
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surprisingly haven't heard anything about Oklahoma who is often involved in the Lee summit high
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school football scene as well but also speaking of pass catcher speaking of the state of Missouri
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one more about a fifth guy in the class here of 2027 Jack Brown a tight end from Francis
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how central St Charles Missouri six five to fifteen and once again you might go a three
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star tight and well you know what look at the offer list look at who his at least his
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public top six occasionally going to wonder about these high school guys and the offer list
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that they put out there but in this case I'm choosing to believe Jack Brown because it's
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convenient for my argument and if he's in there it begins he puts out on his top six before
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that included Missouri before he made this decision Tigers in there with Notre Dame Michigan
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Texas A&M Illinois and Arizona State now obviously those are some big time programs
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there but to me even more importantly some good tight end schools as well Michigan and Notre
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Dame in particular A&M's had some good ones over the years well but I'll even include
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Illinois maybe even higher on the list there than A&M simply because Brett Belima is there
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and he knows how to produce a pro a pro style tight end as well so again five total commitments
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now for 2027 notably Braille and Warren a quarterback from Omaha the first one of the class
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also Jabari Lofton another not in state guy but close enough sort of like Mark Mitchell another
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East St. Louis guy who committed at safety earlier in the cycle and back to the Missouri Miami
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game and back to the idea of the spider man pointing at each other meme well Tray Donaldson who
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is a six foot three point guard from Tallahassee Missouri has a six foot three point guard from Tallahassee
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named Anthony Robinson and indeed they did play each other in high school and indeed a physical player
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but Tray Donaldson a physical player much much like Anthony Robinson a guy who who will draw some
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fouls who will pick up some fouls and again like to bear it another another similar player in some
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ways to Robinson and Tray Donaldson the deal is though I just think Donaldson is much more of the
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steady player so while Missouri I think may have a slight advantage at the four spot with Mark Mitchell
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well I have to give I have to give the hurricanes the advantage at the point guard spot right now both
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Robinson and Tio Barrett have shown really high upside over the seasons they've also shown a pretty
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low floor at times as well it just seems like Donaldson to me is the much more steady player and to
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that point back to you day and I keep saying you day what what is his first name excuse me let me
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check this really quick I should know this earnest you day there we go so earnest you day if you
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look at his statistical profile is a very similar player the two Sean Phillips in a lot of ways a
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really good rebounder shot blocker plays around the rim for the most part but I'll say this Sean
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Phillips is by far and away the superior athlete he's just simply a much more explosive player
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than you day and probably slightly taller as well but here's the thing Phillips for his
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incredible athleticism his credible explosive athleticism at seven feet tall well he has an
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occasion rebounding wise to sort of use let that let that be a crutch if you will it's a nice crutch
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to have but occasionally it can be a crutch and what I mean is he relies on just jumping the jumping
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up and getting the ball instead of necessarily anticipating and most importantly getting position
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and that's something that earnest you day I promise you he's going to be a problem there if Phillips
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is not and and burns and whoever happens to be near earnest you day at any point if you're not
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having an attention to detail if you're not putting a body on him no matter where he is on the court
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he's going to be a problem for you again his if you look at his offensive rating right now for
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example he's 11th in the entire country if you look at his e field goal percentage he's first
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in the entire country now does that mean he's Kevin Durant in 2007 no quite the opposite just
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means he knows exactly who he is as a player he's taking nothing again almost literally taking
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nothing outside of three feet his average per shot is 2.8 feet the closest than the entire
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Atlantic coast conference so while my my guest on the previous show from locked on bets definitely
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check out that that podcast you haven't by the way least sterling was saying oh we don't have a
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center earnest you day he basically he was kind of saying he's not any good or basically implying
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that or at least that's what I inferred from our conversation I'll just say I don't really see
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it that way I think you day could really be a problem for Missouri I just think him knowing exactly
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who he is being 611 266 while he's not the talent that Sean Phillips is or or even Trent Burns in
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a lot of ways I think he knows exactly who he is as a player so if you're Missouri you better be
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ready don't totally listen to Lee sterling the brilliant better that he is I somewhat disagree
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with his take that you day is just is just a big fat zero I don't think that's true I will point out
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something to Shelton Henderson for the Hurricanes had what look like initially a pretty ugly
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ankle turn in the ball game against Louisville their most recent game in the ACC tournament but
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he ends up staying in the game I wonder if that lingers at all he was certainly play but I have
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to say a fairly short rotation let's get more into that short rotation for both teams quite
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honestly another similarity for these teams and also thinking forward to next year just a little
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certainly not all bad for for Miami like I said Shelton Henderson looks like he should be just fine
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to play in the ball game for Miami but I will say a tough loss suffered by Miami they had a
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nine ten point lead for much of the second half against against Louisville and was actually up
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five with a minute to play ended up losing the game a real meltdown by the cane so you do wonder
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a little bit of their state of mind and well about that bench and the short bench that there is
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for Miami well obviously as I've said many times here lately Missouri is playing an eight man rotation
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at this point quite literally well Miami's playing seven guys so an even thinner bench I will say
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true Washington off the bench for Miami is basically a starter and he will probably be probably be
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on the floor to close out a close ball game for the canes and also by the way some some Missouri fans
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including myself have been curious about Marcus Allen status the former Missouri tiger who
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transferred along with C.Y. Young sort of back home to his hometown area of Miami and is now
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with the canes and played just a few ball games and collect just eight ball games before shutting it
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down he has non Hodgkin's Lynn Foma and seems to be doing okay based on my very limited social media
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scouting just was looking at Marcus's Instagram page that kind of thing and well just say first
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thing I noticed he's still got all his hair he's he's showing up and you know he's he's been with
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his teammates lately and that type of thing so just good to see that young man is doing relatively okay
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it would seem I will I am going to talk to Alex Dono tomorrow by the way of locked on locked on
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canes so he'll have a better he'll have a better pulse on what's happening with Marcus and of
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course the rest of that ball club and just looking forward a little bit of course we do look forward
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still on this show even with the NCAA tournament coming up but especially with the guy like Jason
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Crowe coming in and with T.O. Barrett's emergence here down the stretch with Anthony Robinson at
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least in my opinion I hope Ant is still on the roster next season with both of those guys on
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the roster and you're bringing in Jason Crowe a lot of people are saying hey you have a little bit
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of a log jam here at the point guard position at the lead guard position whatever way you want to
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look at it well I will say Jason Crowe a big time prospect obviously an NBA prospect a guy who
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scored 40 plus points a game in high school obviously he's used to having the basketball in his
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hands a lot but you know what there's always an adjustment period there I think with any kind of big
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time player like that who again is basically getting whatever shot he wants in high school that's
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not going to exactly be the same case in college and yet Crowe is such a such a unique talent I think
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he's going to have the ball a ton at Missouri as well so how does that work with T.O. Barrett and
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Anthony Robinson you know what I actually think it works better than most people might expect especially
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offensively and I think I think that's the main concern here that people are thinking about defensively
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that's another story I have to think about that one a little more Crowe is neither obviously
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Robinson and Barrett have solid size and or solid defensive players what to see with Jason Crowe
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as a true freshman they're usually not great defensively but offensively actually like the fit
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better than you might think because I think Crowe's ability to be the lead ball handler to take the
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offense on his own actually takes a lot of pressure off of T.O. Barrett and off of Anthony Robinson
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and Robinson has shown he can play off the ball this season can Barrett maybe be a little bit
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better of a shooter off the ball next season if he can that'd be a big deal for Missouri but also
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say going the other way if T.O. Barrett has it going as he did against Tennessee for example well
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Jason Crowe to me from the little I've seen of him in high school I can't see I've watched an entire
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game or anything like that but just seeing all of his highlights he can he can catch and shoot as
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well as shoot off the dribble that's one of the reasons why he's such a high level prospect because
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it's not because it's not because he's six foot nine is an incredible athlete no Crowe is much
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closer to Anthony Robinson and T.O. Barrett's size and much more normal size player and I'm sure
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he can dunk the basketball but he's not you know he's not Zion Williamson or you know whatever crazy
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athlete you might want to think of that's not why he's the high prospect he is he's that high
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of a prospect because he has an incredible skill set he's got everything in his bag from the off
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the dribble stuff to the off the ball stuff as well so I think the fit thing while I understand the
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concern I think Crowe's such a good player I think he's going to figure it out and hey again
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sorry for being a little bit late on today's program but thanks for figuring it out and finding
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