Survivor 50 Episode 3 Predictions and Power Rankings w/ Sophi

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The survivor specialists are back and today we have our episode three predictions and

power rankings for survivors season 50.

I am joined by Sophie Valerity from survivor 49, one of the members of Trace Latches.

This is a curse.

I just have to say this right of the bat.

Last week, I had Mitch on and Kyle had gone right before that.

This week, I have you on and Savannah goes right before this.

Next week, I have Kelly Wentworth on.

I guess Aubrey is who we should be ranking really, really low in our rankings.

Oh, no.

Oh, God.

I hope that's not a pattern because I love Aubrey.

How are you liking things?

Welcome to the show.

It's great to have you on here.

How are you liking the season so far, side from the fact that you had a watch.

Your beloved Savannah go out so early.

I know.

Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me because I am a long time fan of the

specialist as well.

And so is Riz God, who's in this chat shout out Riz God.

And survivor intro said that he ruined the vibe, but I don't think so.

I welcome Riz God in our chat.

Yeah, I'm loving the season so far.

I think it's meeting the hype that came before the season.

And even though Sav went, I can't escape the superfan and me still watching.

People like Ozzy, Surrey, Aubrey, everyone on my screen that I've grown up watching.

So I'm having such a good time.

And it's been so entertaining.

Usually, pre-merge is not that entertaining, especially on a season like 49 that I was on.

It wasn't as entertaining as this, so I just, it's only going to get better from here.

Yeah.

And you had said, I guess when Dalton Ross had put out that poll where it was like 93% of

people prefer the old school instead of the new era.

I think you had commented on that right and said they actually get to burn, but we mostly

agree.

Yeah.

Because people say stuff to all of us, all new era people will be like, old era so much

better than new era.

And we're like, we agree with you.

We agree with you.

We love to play the old school era and like play with a lot of those people in like a 39

day game.

Like, if I was old enough, like I started applying when it was still 39 day game, you know?

So it was because of COVID that it changed like don't get mad at us.

Like I wish it was the same.

I wish we got rights.

Like there's a lot of things that I wish were the same.

But this is giving old school era.

I don't know if it's because there's old school players, but I don't think so.

Like it's, it's, it's just a by an energy that's different about the season already.

Like I think it's just that everybody came to play.

And sometimes that's not true on a new season, like with new players.

So are you finding yourself?

Obviously you have the connection with Rizzo, Savannah, you indeed both being down in Miami.

Are you finding yourself pulling for some of the old school players though?

Like where is your allegiance when you're watching the tribes and the people actually compete?

So so yeah, I mean, I heard about season 50 before I even went out to play before I even

met Rizzo before I even met Saps.

So obviously I'm pulling for them.

Like if I had to say who I want to win the most, I would say it's probably Rizzo.

I would say Saper D, but they already won and Saps out now.

So I would say Rizzo, but I did tell him the other day, I'm like, I kind of want Seree still

to win.

But love that love for Seree like started when I was a kid and it just doesn't go away.

Like I still like and she still has that charm.

She's still good at the game.

Like you can't help but root for her and and there's just a lot of people that are really

likeable and and catching my attention to season.

So I'm going to say Rizzo at the top, but there's very people, there's very close seconds

that I'm rooting for on season 50.

Yeah, I mean, I appreciate that mentality because Rizzo has been listening to this podcast

since he was like 12.

I don't actually know how old he was, but I know he's been listening to this since we pretty

much started.

Yeah, and you know, when he's talking to Colby and Colby's like Rizzo's annoying, I'm

like, oh, yeah, he is.

Go Colby.

You're right, Colby.

Everything you say is perfect.

Even though in my heart, like if Rizzo were to win, I'm happy because he's been a fan

of us, like good for Rizzo, but when you're going up against Colby, it's like nine year

old Phil is popping out saying, yeah, Rizzo stinks.

Of course, we don't like, we never liked Rizzo.

We're always Colby stands.

So I get where you're, I get where the conflict comes from there.

And I think it's been, I think this part of what's been the fun is you are watching these

people interact with each other and for so long, it has been what would be better.

Old school or new era, who would be better at this version of the game?

Is this version of the game easier?

Who knows what's going on?

Now we're actually seeing it come into action.

We're seeing, I mean, Savannah, who a lot of people were like, why does she get to be

on season 50?

She just came out and in her two episodes was a massive character in a way that a lot

of these other new era players aren't even close.

And even I think Savannah, through her two episodes, has more confessionals than even

Surrey.

So it's like Savannah earned her keep being on the season.

And I think that's also fun to see kind of like which new era people can become the new

era stars that we haven't been able to, you know, really adapt yet or adopt yet because

we haven't had anybody come back and play a second time.

For sure.

And I think it's cool.

Another thing that we love as a, like I love as a fan is that even seeing one of my

good friends get voted out, I can't even be that mad because it was at the hands of Surrey

field.

There's, there's something about that that even Sav takes like as a compliment.

So she's not even that sad that she got out so early because she's like, hey, like I got

got by, by a gamer and I just won.

So, um, so yeah, that made it a little easier to to watch.

Yeah.

Travel her out here with the super chat.

Sophie for fans versus favorites.

Three would love to be cast in that season.

And then Mike here saying you have to be on 52.

So there you go.

You got your fans in the chat popping up.

Even survivor intros who's super anti-Riz God saying Sophie queen of the new era.

So, you know, you got to decide if my interests are not.

Yeah, you're all in.

All right.

So you obviously have done a lot for the season so far.

I mean, you got to go.

You were, you were the red carpet person.

You got to, you got to participate in the hand on a hard idol.

You've gotten to do all that stuff.

How has it been for you watching since playing?

Now, you, you kind of know behind the scenes.

You know how the sausage is made?

Like, how has it been for you sitting down and watching the season now?

Dude, it's been so cool.

I feel like there's, it's funny because you apply to survivor and you have this sort of

personality where you think you don't care what people think about you.

But then you go on survivor and you, and you read comments and you're getting this,

like, crazy amount of feedback of like who you are, people who people think you are.

And it is a lot harder than, than, like, it may look to people.

Even if you have thick skin, which I feel like I have and Rizzo has and stuff,

but it can be hard sometimes like being an actual player in the season.

And now that I'm out of it, I feel like I'm having a more fun time,

just like being able to just watch it with everybody else and not be in it

because I'm not getting that feedback.

So I can kind of be part of the feedback, which I, I bowed to be nice about

because now I know how it feels to be on the other end of it.

And like, have people critique every single move that you make.

But I don't know, it's so much fun.

And like, I was really lucky that CBS, I don't know, invited me.

And they thought that I was worthy of being on the season 50 red carpet.

I was like, looking around like, what am I doing here?

I got a compliment from Colby Donaldson,

who was literally my frickin' crush growing up.

I was like, I forgot about my fiance for a second.

I was like, Colby, you aged like fine, frickin' wine over here.

And he was giving me compliments.

I was like, what is my life right now?

And I think there's probably every survivor alum feels like,

what is your life right now?

Cool things are happening.

And you're able to be part of the community more.

And it's just fun.

And I get to live out a dream of being on the specialists.

Like a podcast I've been listening to for years as well.

So it's just cool.

Like only positives here.

And connecting with the fans in a different way is also and so.

So only I'm gonna be happy right now.

I'm glad you brought up the main dream there

because you've been making your podcast rounds right now.

So you've done RHAP and you've done Tyson.

And now you're finally hitting the big leagues.

You did the warm ups.

And now you're over here at the podcast

that everybody cares about.

The big one.

That's true.

Here you are.

That's the boss.

It's like, this is the final box.

And now I'm like, I can live my life and I'm happy now.

Yes, you got it all out of the way

in the first two, three weeks of the season.

We're not gonna hear from so people there

until the finale now, everybody.

So I'm gonna get it.

No, but I hear where you're coming from with that.

We haven't had a returning player season in so long.

So I think the last time it was was during season 39.

And I remember a lot of the 39 people I became close with

and we'd have them on for podcasts like this

who'd be like, how is it watching the show now?

And it is a totally different experience

to when you're watching a returning player season

right after yours than when you're watching

another new V season because you're watching these legends

rather than people kind of coming

and like taking your spot right away.

It's like, you don't have these next people

who are coming in saying, oh, who's the new soap polarity?

Who's the new this?

It's like, it's a totally different thing.

You get a little bit more time as the all new V season.

I didn't even think about that

like because I think the excitement for 50 as a fan

was just there anyways.

But that is true.

You know, there's no new newbies on the block

that are gonna outshine us.

Even though when I look back at 48 and 47,

like I don't think Eva outshines someone like Sam Falen

like I think they all get their flowers

which is really cool about the survivor community.

Like nobody really gets forgotten,

but I totally get what you're saying.

Like it is like this, this different sweetness

that you get just like coming off of your season

and then watching this like crazy new

like monumental season being aired.

So yeah.

Well, so you're coming in on the hardest week.

When we originally said it,

it's like, okay, you're coming in for the second prediction

and powering his episode normally.

You're just going through the motions of pre-emerge,

but because it's 50, they're doing a swap right off the bat.

Yeah.

So here comes Sophie trying to, you know,

decipher having to be the one who figures out

who's going to go home from these tribes as seven

and we're going to get brand new tribes

and obviously we have the dynamics of people

before they got on the show.

We have the dynamics of people who have been on the show.

Let's kind of go through these tribes

because I'm curious to hear what you think about them

and how it broke out for Rizzo.

How it broke out for Colby who you have now said

like you forgot about your fiance for a second.

So how it worked out for Colby

and how it worked out for some of these other people

on the show.

So if you're listening to the podcast, everybody

and you don't want to know the tribes,

I don't know why you're here at the specialist

for prediction power rankings.

You know, we always go through it as soon as it's announced.

So Mike Bloom put these out and let's start with Rizzo

because this is the new sealer tribe, the new orange tribe.

Yeah.

Charlie D. Jonathan Camilla,

Surrey Devins and the only person

from the original purple tribe,

R.I.Z.G.O.D. Rizgod, baby.

How are you feeling about that tribe?

So I'm, I mean, looking at it,

there's four people from the Cala tribe, the blue tribe.

So that is a crazy voting block right there

in a tribe of seven that could easily take over

any tribal council if they wanted to.

Even though Jonathan has said that D,

he wanted to get her out,

but I don't think when it comes down to numbers,

he wants to do that.

Then we have Riz Devins and Surrey

who just voted together to get Savannah out.

So they could be going into this swap,

also wanting to work together.

And then we have poor old Rizzo,

who's the only one who's alone.

And none of these people know how he played

his original game.

And he's actually like,

it's taking him some time to build trust

with some people in his alliance.

I think a lot of it also has to do

with Kyle leaving like circumstantial.

So like, he's been able to have that time to build that.

I don't know if in a swap,

you're gonna have that.

If you go to tribal council on the first day

of his swap or the second day,

it's really easy to be like,

okay, let's get out Rizzo

because we don't know anything about him

and he's alone wolf.

We're not gonna piss anybody off.

So I'm a little worried about Rizzo,

but I also have played with Rizzo

and I think he's really good at getting him with people.

And like, I know he's a huge fantasy.

I know he's a big fan of Dee and Charlie.

Like Rizzo's girlfriend loves Charlie.

Like he could get in with these people

just like feeding their egos and telling them

how much he loves them.

And there's a world where he's fine, but I do worry.

I do worry.

Yeah, it's a very interesting breakout

because what we heard about Rizzo last episode

and you might be able to attest to this

or maybe you'd say actually,

he was the hardest working person ever

which would speak a lot about 49,

but we heard he's lazy, he doesn't move,

he doesn't want to do anything,

he just sits there and he talks.

And Rizzo leans into that.

He's like, it's not, it's out of play at last.

It's not outlift up firewood, I don't care.

But when you look at his tribe,

none of the people there are gonna care

that Rizzo is not doing it.

Like they're, I don't feel like they're going to.

Like you could argue D or Jonathan,

but they're new era players.

Like he got a new era breakout

and new era people know what the new era game is all about.

And like what Colby might find important

or Stephanie might find important.

I don't think these people are gonna care.

And then Devin's and Suri,

they're just gonna be trying to get whatever numbers they can

because they're coming into this

on the wrong side of the numbers

from a tribe standpoint, but also

they're outnumbered five to two by the new era.

Yeah, and I actually,

I didn't even think about that

because Q, Colby, Stephanie,

the people complaining about Rizzo being lazy

are not on this tribe.

It's actually De Camilla,

Rick Devin and Suri haven't even had supplies to be busy

because they've been losing everything.

And then De and Camilla have been complaining about

Chrissy being too bossy about moving things around

and doing things around camp.

And then Jonathan, I think that's the role he likes to play.

So if he's a provider,

he's not gonna need Rizzo to go catch fish

and do stuff.

So I think in terms of that, Rizzo is definitely fine.

It's just all about, it comes down to numbers

that scare me.

But if he can weasel his way through,

I've been in this situation

where I'm the only one for my original tribe

on a tribe of seven or six,

I don't remember what it was.

And the way that I pitched myself was like,

hey, I have nobody.

Like I'm playing this game.

Now Savannah's gone like by myself.

I'm not a physical threat.

And you guys can scoop me up.

I can be a number for you.

And maybe I'll see Rizzo's gonna do.

Yeah. And then Hirodi Garcia says,

I wonder how Rizzo's reaction this Wednesday

for Savannah's vote out.

What do you think he is?

Is he, like it's obviously Camilla

was very emotional over Kyle,

but that was a meta-back.

That's different.

Do you think he's gonna be emotional?

He seems like he cries about everything

and he jokes about that too.

But is he gonna be emotional here?

Or do you think he's gonna hold it in a little bit?

You know, I haven't asked him about that.

I do know that he did cry about it

but like privately in a confessional.

But I think they went into the game

trying to make people think that they were separate.

So I don't know if he's gonna like continue with that

because he doesn't wanna be like,

oh, I lied, we were actually super close.

So I could see him like playing cool when she goes

and then maybe we're gonna get a confessional

of him balling his out.

So that's my guess.

Yeah, I could see that.

Yeah, I don't feel like this isn't like losing

a loved one where it's like,

now it's gonna light the fire under Rizzo.

But I do feel like it's gonna have some sort of impact

on his game probably for a positive.

Now, my question to you is because you know,

you know what a huge fan he is.

Is he gonna be star struck by Surrey?

I don't think so.

I think he's gonna do exactly what I would do

is which tell him like, I watched you on Big Brother,

I watched you on traders,

think I lost Sophie.

Chat is it me or is it Sophie?

Sophie, I think I lost you briefly.

Oh gosh, oh gosh.

Yeah, I don't know if it was you or me,

I'm trying to get the chat to say.

Let me see here.

Oh, it's Sophie.

Okay, so it's okay, it's you,

but this is the beauty of doing this live.

Rizzo says, oh my God, Sophie down.

Sophie, you're here now, I can hear you.

Oh, there we go.

She's now, okay, so we're gonna figure it out, right?

Ryan Rondo says bear cut the Wi-Fi out.

So I guess that's the new dog that cut out Sophie's,

Sophie's Wi-Fi, we'll see what happens here.

I can hear you now, you're back.

I don't know.

Well, I'm sorry, I don't know what,

like of course this happens now over doing this

because it's never happened.

Are you good though?

You're good now, you're back.

Don't worry about it if that happens.

People are used to it happening with me.

I was born with Todd Herzog for the first time like ever.

And it cut out, so it could be worse,

but you were saying, you've seen him on Big Brother,

seen him on the traders and they belong.

He's gonna, because he knows a lot about everything

and I think he's gonna bring that out

and be like, I love you guys,

or I love you specifically, because of this,

we saw this happen on Australia versus the world.

Who was it that completely fangirled over Sury

and she loved that?

She took that as an opportunity and scooped that lady up

and I think she helped her at game

and maybe Sury will see Rizzo as that person on this tribe

and he's gonna do the same thing to Dee,

the same thing to Charlie.

So I don't know, I feel like his social game

will flourish here on this tribe.

If he brings out the Rizzo tribe, which I'm sure he will.

There you go.

All right, so let's go to the new Kalo tribe,

the new Teal tribe, whatever color.

Bloom has it as green.

It is, to me it looks blue.

I have it right here, so I'm gonna go call it blue still.

But anyway, so we have, this is the well oiled machine tribe.

This is the people who, they work, they don't talk,

they don't have fun, nobody's smiled.

We have Aubrey, Chrissy, Coach, Colby, Joe,

Genevieve and Tiffany.

Now Colby doesn't have a vote here,

just for everybody playing at home,

paying attention at home.

So how do you see this one shaking out?

This one's interesting because we have 3B3

from original tribes and then Joe is the only,

the outcast, he's the one in the middle.

I feel like this is a good tribe for Joe

because he wasn't liked by anyone from his original tribe.

And all of that baggage is now out the window.

He can start fresh with this new tribe.

And people might look at him,

a lot of these people value work ethic

and loyalty it seems like in coach, in Chrissy, Colby.

And I feel like they'll wanna work with him,

at least the older school.

And so I feel like he could be either the middle man

or he can join forces with one of these three.

And I feel like if it's any three he's gonna join,

it's gonna be the blue three,

the original like Chrissy coach and Tiff

because Aubrey and Genevieve didn't really get along

on their original tribe.

So that's gonna be an interesting dynamic in this tribe

because I don't know how they're gonna work together.

For some reason, I worry for Genevieve

because I actually know

because she went in with Colby, right?

Yeah, and her Colby are tight.

Right, so I worry for Aubrey in this situation.

But yeah.

Yeah, and this one's interesting to me

because Colby doesn't have the vote.

So it's not an easy Tiff falls into the swing,

or Joe falls into the swing position

because Tiffany and Chrissy clearly aren't close, right?

Like Tiffany and Chrissy, I'd be surprised

that they vote together.

So I could see Chrissy, you know,

I don't wanna like call out people for their ages here,

but I could see an old person's alliance forming

of Chrissy, Colby, coach and Joe.

And then you bring in Genevieve there,

now even with Colby not having a vote,

you still have a four to two or four to three advantage.

But the scariest part here is Aubrey has the boomerang eye.

So Aubrey can play that idol and save herself

at a tribal council if she feels the person

who's going to go home.

And personally, I agree with you.

I think Aubrey is the one who's in the most danger

on that tribe, but if you have an idol

and you know you're in danger,

Aubrey's not making that same mistake

she made an edge of extinction.

Right, so I actually think maybe TIFF is in trouble.

But then, you know, I'm someone who reads into the edit a lot

and Chrissy did not have a favorable edit last week at all.

I mean, TIFF didn't really either

for looking at like confessional counts,

neither one of them had one,

but they specifically showed that tribe

talking crap about Chrissy.

So maybe she, you know,

rubs people the wrong way here,

but then again, she moved to this tribe with coach

who was working with her from that tribe,

which is good for her.

So Chrissy and Joe are seeming to get a fresh start

on this tribe with like nobody there

really hating on them, but I don't know.

Yeah, I guess my guess would be Aubrey and Colby

are in the worst position.

Colby because he has no vote

and then Aubrey for the reasons you said.

And then if Aubrey does play the idol,

I could see her getting rid of Genevieve

because her and Genevieve weren't getting,

well, long, long, long also,

if it's a six one pile on vote on Aubrey,

she plays the idol and there goes Genevieve and her Bob

and we're all crying going,

wait, why did Kyle have to get hurt?

This is the alliance we wanted.

Genevieve's taking over the edit

and that's how I know you've been listening to us

for a while because you talk edit

and other podcasts are like, no, we don't talk at it.

It's like, that's all I talk about.

That's what we're here for.

Will always make one of me call me a robot

on Wednesday night being like,

it's okay to talk about something other

than confessionals and edit.

I'm like, that's what's bad.

As a previous player, too,

that's all I look at now like the music,

how long someone's been talking.

If they're talking what's the substance about,

like is it about their game, is it about somebody else?

I look at all of that now and I don't know.

I feel like Aubrey and Genevieve are looking pretty good

if we're looking at the edit.

But how would be crazy if Aubrey plays her idol?

Idols out Genevieve, everyone would be so pissed off

about that damn boomerang idol

because Aubrey did nothing to earn it.

Genevieve found one but had to send it to somebody else.

So that would be crazy.

I think it would be like the fans would be so pissed off.

But I don't know, this tribe is kind of like hard to read.

I don't know what the hell they would do

if they went to a travel council.

It could be a lot of things.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Now that you've been on the red carpet,

now that you've done hand on a hard idol,

if Genevieve gets knocked out because of the boomerang idol

that she found and had to give away an Aubrey got

for doing nothing, whoever your connection is,

you better be calling them saying,

hey, here's a bunch of letters from the fandom.

I'll just use this special list.

You can just go through our chat.

People are gonna be blowing it up

because Genevieve is who everybody is the most excited

to see from the new era.

And if she goes out in that way,

poor season 50, that hot start it's off to,

that would be a cold week, that's for sure.

I know.

I think that's the only way like the season gets bad.

And if it's like continued fan favorites

to just be like voted out every week,

that's like, okay, what the hell are you doing here?

It's interesting, but like what are we gonna do

if we're left with a, you know,

shitty, final five or whatever.

But whatever.

Let's hope for the best for Genevieve win

and for her to survive this challenge.

And I feel like it would be hard to get a shit

final five from this cast.

Like I feel like, I feel like there'd be a very,

there's like a very rare few instances

of a bad final three.

And even if it's a bad, and I'm using air quotes here,

like I think some people would consider like Joe and Jonathan

both making final three would like drive people crazy.

But it's like if Joe and Jonathan are both there,

I want to watch the story of how Joe and Jonathan

has those big dudes, both got the final three.

Like that's a good story for me.

That's so true.

That's so true.

And then to get there, you got to blind side

some big players, which would just fun to watch too.

So that's actually very true.

I think either way, the season's living up to the hype.

It's gonna be good.

Like it's gonna be so good.

So.

Especially when they have the outcast twist

where Savannah comes back in and wins her way back in.

That's why Sophie's being super positive.

She knows about the outcast twist everybody.

By the way, it's gonna be an outcast twist.

Yeah.

Exactly.

It's called Island right now.

Yeah.

If there is an outcast twist, I just want everybody to know

that I actually don't know that.

And Sophie doesn't actually know that.

I don't need Sophie getting a hate on our comments.

I don't.

I don't know.

Yeah.

Yes, twist.

Yeah.

We don't need that.

All right.

Third drive.

Three David Burst Goliaths all together.

Mike, Christian, Angelina, then we got Emily and Ozzie.

We got Q without a vote.

And we have Stephanie LaGrosa.

Yep.

And I'm not worried about Mike at all being the only one

from his original Calo tribe because he has two people.

He's not only played with, but it's clearly

closer in real life.

He put them in the white lotus.

They're good.

I think that there's probably an unspoken loyalty there.

And he's probably in a really good position in my,

because these people, Angelina and Christian,

have people that they work with from their original tribe

that they can vouch for Mike.

And be like, hey, you know, he's loyal.

I played with him before.

So I think those three are locked.

Yeah, I like the idea too.

If it's like Christian or Angelina vote out Mike,

he's just like, hey, we're going to go re-edit those episodes.

We're just going to call it.

Angelina, remember, you're speaking part.

Nobody else does.

Bye.

That's going on.

I am curious how this one will shake out with Ozzie Stephanie.

Like those two and Q, I feel like they

have very similar mindsets of like physical,

let's go play the game hard.

Not necessarily overly strategic.

I think Q, he's talking about Rizzo and Angelina

not doing anything.

Stephanie, we all know is a hardworking person.

And then you have Ozzie who just wants to go fish

and play this like physical game.

So I'm curious how that will go for all of them.

Q, not having a vote makes this one really interesting, though,

because it could easily be three-day-versa-goliath

versus the other three.

And Q can't do anything about it.

And then it becomes who's willing to defect,

to not blow up their game over three days

or whatever worth of alliances.

So this is the most confusing tribe to me.

And I kind of hope this one doesn't go to tribal right away

so we can see the dynamic play out a little bit.

I agree.

And do we know if anybody else knows if Q doesn't have a vote?

I'm assuming maybe Stephanie Woods,

since they were part of the same alliance

in their original tribe.

And they told Colby and Rizzo.

So I'm assuming if Colby, Rizzo, Stephanie,

know, Genevieve, probably knows.

But I doubt Angelina knows.

Yeah, that's the only way where I kind of worry

about him in this situation.

But I don't think, I don't think Steph would say anything.

And I, I don't always going to play it off

like if he does.

And then, and it doesn't matter that he doesn't have a vote.

Or if people are going to find out and be like,

we need to get QL type of thing.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's the most interesting tribe, though.

So if they go, that's the one where I'm like,

I really have no idea.

I'd be surprised if Christian or Ozzie went,

based on how big their edits have been so far.

Yeah, that's true.

Those are the only two with massive edits on that tribe.

Right.

Or did they set them up because they want to set the,

they know they're getting set home soon,

because Sav had a pretty big edit in episode one

and then she went the next episode.

That's true.

But I agree.

I think Christian's in the best spot right now,

because he has Mike and Angelina.

Emily seems like she's blinding the loyal to him

and Rick.

Ozzie's voted with them.

I don't know.

I think Christian's for sure not going home this week.

That's like, I would put my, I'd put everything on that.

And yeah, I don't know.

I also don't really know what the heck would happen

if these people went to tribal.

Yeah.

We're about to find out.

You just said that you were going to put your money

on Christian not going home.

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Let's get started.

Let's do it.

All right, so I'll let you go first with your number one.

Now, I just want to say this.

You said you should put everything on this.

We had Samuel Aude on here one time from season 43.

And he came on and said, if Kelley not banding

and went home, he would be so shocked.

He's like, that would be, if that happened,

I'd bet on the Arizona Cardinals to win the Super Bowl.

Kelley not banding went home that week.

And then Samuel Aude never ended up

betting on the Cardinals to win the Super Bowl.

So I'm just saying, and we call them out on that.

So I'm just saying, be careful what you bet here.

Is that I'm willing to put whatever on.

Because I don't forget, and I'd be like, hey, sorry.

You said you were going to put like 100 bucks on something

really stupid.

What's happening now?

I'll put 100.

I'll put 100 bucks on it.

I will give you 100 bucks if quotient goes home.

Well, now I need to call the editors and be like,

whatever week, Christian goes home, just make it this week.

Because I need that 100 more than you guys need your floor.

Well, we're talking about this week, right?

I don't know.

Yeah, but we had to move that episode up.

It'll be like, wow, that didn't even look like the tribe

who lost the immunity challenge in our tribal.

Anyway, all right.

So who are you going, Christian at number one, then,

or are you going to differ out?

Just because we're at, we look at the edit

and everything in this positioning in this tribe specifically,

with people that he's not only worked with before,

like he's clearly good friends with in real life.

I think, and then he has Emily and Ozzy.

I'm going to put Christian at number one.

I just don't see a world where he goes home this week.

We saw them hide and idle at tribal council.

I need to see that play out.

So I'm going to put Christian at number one.

Yeah, I'm going to put him at two.

So I have him a little bit behind.

I think coming out of this week's episode,

he's probably my favorite to win, which I know some people

would be like, he's more of a character.

But if you think about what the editors did with him

pooping his pants, they actually edited this man

to poop his pants and then tied it into the story

of him then playing a fool at the end

so that his closest ally could hide something.

People were staying on the internet.

We had posted a couple of things.

And when we had Carl on who played with Christian

back during Dave versus Goliath, he was given him a hard time

being like, you pooped your pants on national television.

And a lot of people were saying, why did they have to air that?

Like, poor Christian, give the guy a break,

like he's out there, whatever.

But I really, truly do think they aired it

because ultimately it played into the story

of what his character is and what he was able to do

in this episode.

I almost think for the first time in history,

we should almost look at somebody pooping their pants

as like a positive, like good for Christian, he did it.

So I don't know.

I feel like this really worked in his favor.

So I haven't met two.

Okay.

But I'm putting Jonathan at one

because you just did a tribe swap.

Jonathan's the biggest guy there.

You have D and Jonathan as the two best physical challenge

performers like for men and women.

I think they're easily the two best.

And D's probably top five, regardless of gender.

And then I think Camilla's really good at puzzles.

You know, they'll be able to put Saria in a spot,

hopefully not in a hero position.

Like the other tribe was doing.

But I feel like this tribe is probably winning this week.

And I don't know if it's a double boot or not.

But even if they lose to vote out Jonathan,

like let's say Jeff comes out and says,

two tribes going to tribal council tonight.

First thing, and you lose,

you're not getting rid of your strongest person worrying

that there's going to be double boots the rest of the season.

You want to actually win these challenges.

So I'm putting him at one and Christian it too.

Okay.

You just convinced me to put him up to put Jonathan at two for me.

Because that's yeah, because I didn't think about that.

Like I was just worried about numbers wise for Rizzo.

But looking at this tribe, we have like the strength.

We have the puzzles.

It's so well-rounded that I don't even think

they're going to go to tribal council.

So at least I don't know.

So yeah, I would say Jonathan at number two.

Because you're right.

And I got to vote him out, even if they do lose.

Even if they do lose.

Do we know if it's a double boot or not?

Do we know if it's two tribes going to tribal council this week?

They haven't announced officially, right?

They haven't said anything.

They just showed the swap and then kind of the breakdown

of the tribes in ways where they like show them talking.

But that's it.

Yeah.

Well, see, I mean, I hope, I mean,

they got to start getting rid of two people

at a time eventually, right?

I don't want this to be like, hey, we're going to play

Earn the Merge and the tribe that loses every single one

of you.

That would be crazy.

Like a bloodbath.

Look at the sterile sea more.

Phil convinces people to change their minds.

He'd be great at final tribal.

Thanks, sterile.

It's true.

I don't know if I'm cruising that far if I ever get on survivor.

But anyway, Sophie, who do you have at number three?

Well, I would say at number three, I would put,

if Sela wasn't a tribe where Rick Devons and Ciri

were the only two from the original Sela,

I would probably put Rick at number three.

But I'm going to say Emily Flipett at number three.

I just don't see a world where she goes home.

I think Christian will vouch for her.

And she's going to be in the numbers no matter what

in that Vatu tribe with either Christian, Angelina, Mike,

Ozzy.

I think that three of Christian, Emily, and Ozzy

are voting block.

And then on top of that, they have Mike and Angelina.

I just have to be, I just feel so sure of it.

So I'm going to say Emily at number three.

She's doing a good job of playing out of the radar.

Really good, because her biggest errors in her first season

were just coming in so hot.

Emily's coming in chilling.

She's just hanging out.

I mean, she is throwing out.

I don't know what how close she is,

but she seems to have such a tight relationship

with Emily with Rick and Christian, where even though she's

throwing out Ozzy's name to Syri's face,

and to everybody on her tribe, it's not working,

but like nobody's targeting her because of it.

Like it seemed like Jenna went home

because she was saying Syri's name.

But like the whole last episode, Emily was like,

well, I want Ozzy out.

I want Ozzy out.

But nobody's like, oh, we should get Emily out because of that.

So I don't know.

That does actually remind me that Ozzy

is on this tribe with her.

But I don't know.

I'm going to keep her in number three for me.

And I also feel like Emily learned from her first time

that if Christian says Emily, we've got to just work

with Ozzy here.

And Ozzy's gone through some tribe swaps

before he's gone through bad times.

I think Ozzy is also somebody who'd be like,

we're desperate.

Emily, I will work with you.

Like let's make this happen.

Let's stick seal a strong.

We all voted together.

This is where the plan that Christian and Devon's

really focused on of wanting everybody to make

unanimous votes for those first two

is coming to fruition, because I did not

give serene nearly enough credit last week

for the way she was able to move the vote around

and get it on a savanna.

But also Christian and Devon's wanting it to be unanimous.

I think is also a big portion of the reason why that happened.

And so I think that helps because now Ozzy's coming in.

We know it from the edit that Ozzy's not necessarily

tight with these people, but does Ozzy

realize how much these people were discussing potentially

voting them out?

I don't know, because they all voted with them.

That's so true.

I agree.

I agree.

And I guess if they really wanted Ozzy out,

Christian can probably gather the troops

and Q doesn't have a vote.

And he can get Emily, Angelina, and Mike to get Ozzy out.

But then he does have an idol too, so.

Yeah.

That actually looks like, I don't know.

And so it looks like people are saying,

I'm gonna put this one comment up

and then I'm blocking and deleting this person.

In case you were wondering, Sophie, if we get negative comments,

like just think about this.

We're asking if it's one or two votes.

We get this guy who says, yes, it's two boots.

Okay.

So then the next one says there's a promo shot

of only one immunity idiot.

Is that supposed to say idle?

I'm gonna hope you need to say idle.

Cookie snack and burger, if that is your real name.

Because why do you have to call us idiots on this?

So I'm gonna hope, I'm not gonna block you yet.

I'm gonna hope you meant to say idle.

Comment in the chat if you meant to say idle.

If you meant to say idiot, blocking you.

And then Christian Gallus says,

two tribes going to tribal council together like game changers.

I don't know who to believe,

so I'm not gonna believe anybody.

And I'm just gonna sit here and assume

two tribes are gonna go.

My rankings, we're gonna have one person

from each tribe is my bottom three anyway.

So whatever, we'll figure it out.

But okay, Cookie snack and burger says meant idle.

You better of poop.

Yeah, I don't think so, but let's just,

he gets to pass.

He doesn't want to get blocked is what he's saying.

And I just want to know which one of us he was calling

to idiot there.

He didn't even, he didn't put the S.

It could have been both of us for all we know.

It's true.

Anyway.

That's the same as you.

Let's just, yeah, well yeah, of course.

Take, I'll take the heat.

I like that so if he was like, no,

it could be either of us, but it's probably you.

It's like, thanks so.

That's what we're here.

Who's your number three?

So my number three, I am going to go,

I'm gonna keep playing this kind of like people

in the middle position and I'm gonna go a joke.

So I'm putting all of the,

as Australian survivor people would call it,

all the beef at the front here.

I'm putting all like the meat guys.

Christians not really meaty,

but whatever.

Joe and Jonathan at the top.

Joe, with nobody else from his tribe,

he doesn't have to do any damage control.

I think that a lot of people are gonna be happy

to play with Joe from that tribe.

I don't see Cole be being bothered by it.

I think Coach is gonna be like, I mean,

Coach and Joe on the same tribe,

can there be enough honor and integrity on one beach?

I don't know.

I feel like Joe's in a really good spot.

And I also have to acknowledge,

this is the first time in survivor history

that Cole be and Coach are playing together

on the same tribe.

We never actually saw them on the same tribe

and hero villains.

This is a big deal.

That's so true.

I feel like they would want to work together.

Because there's so much history there.

I'm sure on those seasons,

or that season they were on,

they hung out outside the game a lot.

So they know each other.

And I could see a world where they work together.

I think you're right that there's gonna be

like an old people alliance and they're gonna get together.

And maybe Tiff, Genevieve are in trouble.

So, yeah.

Yeah.

Okay, so your Clea is Joe.

That's a good one.

Yeah.

And going back to just close the book

on Puggy, Snack and Burry,

it says it wouldn't have been Sophie.

So it wouldn't have been me.

So okay.

So if you're in the corner here.

Yeah, this is the first time I guess,

Cole be and Coach will be on the same beach

since Coach owned Cole be at the premiere of heroes villain.

You know what I mean?

So this is, it's a big deal for Cole be.

Now it gets to be over there and like, you know,

maybe I could see the two of them bonding though.

I could see the two of them playing together.

They did their time at Ponderosa,

even though they weren't on the same beach.

So.

Exactly.

Okay.

Who's your number four?

So I'm tempted.

I'm actually gonna put D at number four for me.

And the reason why is because there's still so many players

in the game that like players who assume

that they have this big target on their back

that I think it's beneficial for a lot of them

to keep a winner in the game.

Because number one, she contributes to a tribe

and their strength.

But number two, it's like, as long as there's a winner

in the game still, the only winner left,

they're gonna always go for her before me.

And I know that's how a lot of them think.

So I'm gonna say D is my number four.

I don't see a world.

For, first of all, that this tribe loses,

but if they do lose that she goes,

especially when there's four people in the majority

from her original tribe coming into it.

So, I'm gonna put D at number four.

You have four people and no idols, at least as of now.

So that could be beneficial too.

That's true.

Do you think there's gonna be another

of Billie Eilish from Boomerang Idol?

We were talking about this on digging deeper with Carl.

Blake and I, we had figured out that the only one

that hasn't been found yet is the Colo tribe,

which is where Genevieve is now.

Could you imagine if Genevieve finds

the other Billie Eilish Boomerang Idol

and has to give it away again

and then gets voted out in the same tribal council

or in the same episode.

I think people would explore.

Oh my gosh, I think that's so likely to happen too.

Because I think that's true.

Why were there only two?

There has to be another one.

There has to be another one, so one.

And I don't see Joe, Chrissy finding it.

Like Genevieve's obviously, she knows where to look now.

That's so crazy.

Think about that.

Colby is not threatening to find an idol.

Tiffany did find one in her first season.

That's true.

I can see all four Genevieve finding it.

Our Aubrey already has one.

She's not going to be looking around.

It's just, it's also like bad luck, though,

for Genevieve Colby, Aubrey and Joe,

because they were on a tribe that had the Billie Eilish Idol.

And now they're on another tribe

that has the Billie Eilish Idol,

whereas like Tiffany coach Chrissy,

it worked out for them and I mean,

really it doesn't work out for Tiffany coach Chrissy.

It works out better for like Charlie, Jonathan,

D and Camilla, because nobody found it on their tribe.

So they were able to get one in general.

And now they're on another tribe where they, you know,

if somebody finds out, I don't know, we've got it.

That or the person who finds it

has the same mentality that Genevieve did,

assuming that Ozzy would get voted out

and she gave it to Ozzy.

So maybe Rizzo gets it.

Or Cherie or Devon, or maybe Mike White,

like because they're the odd ones out of their tribes.

Like if that same mentality happens.

That is true.

Now it's like, hey,

or you're trying to protect somebody in your alliance.

Like could coldly find it and say,

I want to give it the staff,

because I want staff to stick around.

You know, that could be,

there's a lot more dynamics here.

I just think that the Billie Eilish Boomerang Idol,

if you're doing a tribe swap, three people in,

just has the ability to blow up in everybody's face right now.

I agree.

That's so crazy to think about.

I didn't think about it like that.

Louis Bolerdy says be so funny if they just all make the merge.

So their idol doesn't ever boomerang.

Well, then it just becomes an idol, right?

Like that they can just use.

I think it could still come back to the people though.

Like they could, I think if you make the merge,

unless I read it wrong,

but I think if you make the merge and you play that idol,

or you don't play the idol and you get voted out,

I think it goes back to the other person.

Okay.

I think.

Yeah, I think so too.

Do you know that person?

Yeah.

That's my brother.

That's my brother.

Oh, okay.

I was going to say very quickly.

It's like commented on your stuff before.

I don't know why I assumed you would know that that was my brother.

Oh, I had no.

I mean, I recognize Bolerdy there,

but then I'm like, you know,

maybe it's just somebody trolling and then he said,

oh, maybe I'm dumb.

Sorry, also.

I'm not saying anything.

There's so much negativity going on in this chat today.

I can't say anything about that.

So yeah, I don't, I think it works though.

I think it goes through into the other portions.

I think it was.

I agree.

I think it's always a boomerang idol.

Like if they go, if they get voted out,

they, it goes to Genevieve or Christian.

So.

Yeah.

All right.

All right.

My number four, I am going to go Aussie.

So maybe a little high.

I'm just putting, like I said,

all the big beefy guys at the top here.

But when I look at that tribe,

maybe he's on the wrong side of the numbers.

But if Aussie feels he's on the wrong side of the numbers,

he is going to play his idol.

And Christian and Emily would really have to be

in so close with Q.

Stephanie Angelina and Mike to be able to trick Aussie

into not playing it.

And I do think Aussies like radars also going off

a little bit right now of who trusts me, who doesn't.

So I'm feeling like Aussie's going to figure it out

if it's coming his way.

And I also feel like if you're on that tribe, especially,

look, Stephanie can still kick ass.

Like she was, she did great in that first challenge.

Q good physical challenge player.

Angelina Christian, Emily Mike.

I know Mike's got his six pack now.

He was the first one across the balance beam,

but not everything is going to be a balance beam.

So I think you've got to keep Aussie if you're that tribe

because you just, you kind of were to lose them.

There is a lot.

I feel like if we're talking about well-roundedness,

this tribe is pretty well-rounded too.

They have the strength and Q, Mike, Aussie.

And then they have the puzzles with Christian.

So who knows if this tribe will even go to tribal.

But the only reason I push back on that,

like Emily flippin' with, is that Aussie,

like he doesn't have to be being the brains of the operation

to be like, hey, you're in trouble.

Use your idol.

But I think you're right that he does have his like,

fighting senses up now because he was part of the conversation

on his previous tribe.

But I'm just worried that because he's voted already twice

unanimously with Emily and Christian,

they could pull the wool on like over him.

But so for that reason, he's not my four

and he's not my five either, but it's a good pick.

It's a good pick.

Yeah, I get where you're coming from with that

of pulling the wool over his eyes.

I think Q, not having a vote there

is going to have much more of an impact on that tribe

than anything else.

Because I think that you might see some divisions

and you might see people want to go a different route

and Q's just going to be like, I don't have a vote.

And it raised me like, hmm, okay.

I hope he doesn't say anything because I feel like

it would work more against him than with him

or that then for him.

So I don't think it'll earn anybody's trust

on this tribe.

There's already a trust formed between a lot of people.

And I think that would make it the easiest reason

to vote him out if he says it.

It's true.

He doesn't.

So who do you have at number five?

And I'll throw up this comment while you think

of your number five.

The B.C. guy was not including risk on me.

Yeah, risk on.

You can't say big beefy guy without including R.I.Z.

G.O.D.

risk on baby.

So I'll let everybody figure that out for themselves.

All right, so be your up.

OK, so for number five, I'm going to go Joe

for a lot of the reasons that you said.

But I think in this tribe specifically him being

the odd one out, like Rizzo is, it's not going to work against

him because he has a strength.

He just, all these people just watch 48

and how he was super loyal.

I think that's very satisfying for someone

like Colby, Chrissy, Coach.

And if there is like any alliance made right off the bat,

it's going to be these older people

with the old school mentality.

And I think he's fine in that tribe.

So I'm going to say, I'm going to say five for Joe.

What did you think about the Devin's

versus Joe argument last week?

Who side were you on?

OK, so watching it back, I know a lot more about that

because I talked to Sav about it.

And I know there was like a lot more of that conversation

that was shown, it was blown out of proportion

from what I've heard.

So if I saw the whole thing, I probably

would be on Rick's side.

But from what I saw, Rick Devin's

to the worst line I've ever seen in my life when Joe was like,

so what were you guys talking about?

I was so surprised because I feel like Rick is so crafty

and he's so good.

But maybe he's just been a little rusty

because he hasn't played Survivor in a while, but like that.

And I think he was self aware about it too.

He's like, I don't know why I'm lying.

I was so stupid.

So I don't think it was that crazy that Joe was pissed off

about him lying about it.

But then again, I think the way Joe reacted to it

made me be more on Rick's side.

So I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know whose side I'm on.

I don't know.

How about you?

I was, well, I picked Devin's as my preseason winner pick.

But then I also rewatched it.

I'm like, Joe's really got a lot of points here.

Look, I know that the, I think what's

fascinating so far about this season as a whole

is that the editors aren't really giving us,

this is your hero, this is your villain.

This is who should be rooting for this isn't.

They're kind of leaving things a little bit greater

than usual, which is a hard thing for the internet

to understand because the internet is like, no,

you aren't either on this side or you are on this side.

And if you're not on the side, I'm on like screw you.

And I feel like this is like one of the first moments

we've had in Survivor in a while where people really

are split on it.

I think that's actually more compelling because it's like,

well, maybe we don't need to really be on one side

or the other, maybe it's okay to just be this.

So I think that the biggest problem with Joe and Devons

is exactly what Devons said at Travel Council,

which is we're both very stubborn.

And we let our stubbornness get in the way of everything

and we just kept budding heads

rather than ever seeing eye to eye.

And we saw Joe do this in his season with David Kinney.

And we saw Devons do this in his season with Wardog

to an extent.

So it happens with both of them.

Yeah, and ultimately they came together to vote somebody out.

It wasn't like Rick was like, I need to get Joe out

or Joe was like, I need to get Rick out.

So I don't know why they showed us that then

because it doesn't really contribute.

Maybe it will contribute to the storyline later.

But it kind of reminds me of the riff

between Aubrey and Genevieve

where like, I don't know who's side to be on.

I like both of them, but there's that conflict there.

So who would be your five?

So I'm going to go and this is not the person

who's side I'm on in this riff, but you just brought up the riff.

I'm going with Albs.

I'm going to put Aubrey at number five.

And I know that's going to sound crazy to a lot of people

but having that idol, Aubrey is not making the same mistake twice.

And if Aubrey gets any inclination

that things are going wrong for her,

she is playing this idol.

Like it's going to happen.

She got so duped and on edge of extinction.

And like I met Aubrey a couple of times.

Like after edge of extinction, look, she, you know,

she's human at the end of the day.

And like it's bothersome, you know, like it, especially Aubrey's trajectory

from survivor was should have been the winner,

but lost to was a relevant to, oh my God,

that was like one of the dumbest things ever.

So Aubrey went for being like the fan darling

to then everybody going, why is Aubrey even on my screen?

Why is she coming back for the fourth time?

And so I feel for Aubrey big time here,

but I think Aubrey for the last seven years

has been playing in her head,

getting duped by Victoria and all of them

and going to the edge of extinction and sitting there

and dealing with that.

And I think she's going to say to herself, look,

I don't have a good vibe from Genevieve.

Colby hasn't talked me at all.

Like I don't know coach.

I don't know Chrissy.

I don't know Tiffany.

Joe hasn't talked me.

And if anything comes out of her, she is playing her idol.

And if she does get on the right side of the number,

she doesn't need to play her idol.

Good for her.

But I felt last week watching Aubrey Alexa text me

and she was like, I feel bad for Aubrey right now.

And I was like, I do too.

Like I want her to succeed.

I want to see something good.

And it feels like she's just been like broken down

by the game.

So I'm hoping that in this episode,

it's kind of a not even this episode,

but with this tribe swap,

it starts to become more of a positive for Aubrey.

So I'm going to put her at five.

She gets blindsided with the idol again,

I'm going to be devastated for her,

but I just do not see it happen.

No way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's good.

I feel like so I still worry about her position

on this tribe.

So that's why she's not at my top five or even six.

But I could see all that.

And I do feel like we're looking at the edit again

with the last episode.

It felt like she came from the bottom of that tribe already.

And now she has an idol.

I feel like it's not going to go.

She's going to get voted out now next.

Yeah.

I think it's only up from here for her.

So she'll be maybe in the top 10 for me.

But I think for number six,

I don't know if I'm going to choose right now.

I'm looking at the list right now.

That's why I'm looking down.

But I really don't see a world or Cila.

I feel like Cila and Vatu are pretty good

and they're going to avoid tribal council.

So I want to pick someone from there.

I'm going to go with Mike for six.

I think he's going to be fine

in this next tribe dynamic.

He has Angelina who I think they're really good friends.

And then I just see a world where they want to scoop him up

instead of vote him out for this next tribal council they go.

So I'm going to put Mike at six.

Yeah, I'd be more confident Mike if there was a full seven votes

on that tribe.

But because it's yeah,

he's got Angelina and Christian,

but Ozzie having the idol and they're not being a full seven.

That's what's keeping me from putting him yet.

Because look at the Ozzie.

He's just like let's split up those three.

Who's the most threatening?

Yeah.

No votes.

What was that?

I keep forgetting that Q has no vote.

So, but I still feel like, you know,

think about it.

It's Angelina Christian and with Christian comes Emily.

I feel like Ozzie's going to want to stay true to those numbers.

Like they have four.

I feel like I don't know what Stephanie's going to do.

So it's Q or Stephanie.

You're thinking you're in trouble over there.

Yeah, that's what I think.

I kind of agree with you.

I really do.

I think you're going to it there for sure.

And then I think they're going to be like,

why are we getting a mic out?

He's alone and here he has this loyalty with.

I don't know.

I could be wrong, but that's that's my number six.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm going to go a little bit lower on Mike on Mike there.

And I'm going to wait.

I'm finally going to put Emily in here.

I think like you said, Emily is pretty much in the swing here.

Emily is either going to go with Christian Ozzie and they already have three.

Or it's going to be Christian Angelina Mike and Emily is going to go with them.

And now they have four.

So no matter what, she's at least into the halfway point of this.

And it becomes a lot easier if you say, no, we are definitely on this side.

Like if you're Mike, you have nobody but your day versus a lot of people.

If you're Angelina, Q and Stephanie weren't including you on anything.

So you don't care about that.

So I'm going to go with Emily here at number six.

And I think that I'm going to keep going with this.

Like where I have Mike a little bit lower Angelina a little bit lower.

But for me right now, Q and Stephanie are absolutely.

I think of the most danger on that video.

Yeah.

I'm reading the comment as I'm saying it on that try.

Focus Phil.

Look at your head.

Who do you have?

So at seven, I'm going to pick someone from Cilla.

I think I'm going to go with I would go with Rick or Cerey.

Maybe the Winx, but I'm going to go with Charlie because again,

I don't see this tribe really losing.

But if they do, he has that majority.

He I'm pretty sure was with the numbers.

They didn't really show a lot of his tribe in the last two episodes.

But I feel like he was in good standing with everybody.

Like Jonathan was coming for D, but I feel like in this tribe,

when you need the majority,

he's going to probably stick with his original tribe.

And I don't see them like coming for Charlie.

So I'm going to put Charlie at seven.

I haven't known what to do with Charlie because Charlie has been

so minor on the season so far.

Yeah, it's true.

They have to show him in a like strategically saying anything,

just like kind of talking about people on his own tribe.

So far his confessionals have been like Mike White has abs.

And I'd like to work with Chrissy because I like working with the older women,

but Chrissy is pissing everybody off.

Like if Charlie were to get swaps screwed,

I feel like he's gotten the type of edit for like,

oh, things aren't going to go well for poor Charlie.

That's why everything's really, really quiet for him.

So I don't have them that much lower than you have them.

I just don't know.

Oh, and then tag with says also the toe ring.

How could the last three forget the toe or that thing?

Yeah.

Yikes.

I know poor, poor Charlie's disconnected from the toe ring now.

He's away from that.

Well, they don't for that.

Yeah.

I was just towing.

That's crazy.

What did Coach say?

Isn't taking it off since like the 98 or something in Charlie's like,

can I have it?

Yeah.

We'll add it here.

Get out of here.

Uh, okay.

For my, for my number seven, I will also go to that seal of tribe.

And I'm going to go where you haven't gone yet.

And I can't believe it.

I don't know if you're just like trying to pretend you're neutral or what it is,

but I'm going to go with risk.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

I'm surprised you haven't listed him yet.

I thought for sure I was trying to just like keep pushing them down my rankings

so that you could say his name first.

So it could be like, yay.

So of my best friend.

Thank you.

But then you didn't say it.

And I'm like, no, this is the right spot for him.

Real.

No, I texted him.

Say sorry.

You haven't read to you.

Yeah.

Well, he just texted me and said, I like you more than Sophie right now.

Thank you for.

Um, but I just feel like like with that tribe, he might not be the strongest or anything.

Yeah.

But he only person from purple.

And I just don't know why.

Like I get he's an unknown.

You've already kind of said it where it's like he, he can use his social game to get in.

And if you're one of these other people, you don't know what he did on 49,

but you also know Savannah is gone now.

So that makes Rizzo a little bit less threatening because you don't need to worry about them pairing up.

And then you look around and you say, Charlie, a lot of people feel should have won.

So raise the best to never win.

D one of the most dominant wins of all time.

Camilla wins if she gets to the end.

Devon's wins if he gets to the end.

And Jonathan's the biggest physical powerhouse ever.

Nobody knows what Rizzo is.

There's so many bigger threats on that tribe.

I think he's going to be okay here.

I really do.

Yeah, I guess I worry for him because he's an odd one out.

But yeah, now that you put, you say that.

I'm like, I do have faith in him.

I know he can get out of this.

But I just thought that there are people who are just in better positions right now.

But it's true.

And so on top of everything you just said,

Sav, I know, has told me, and she said it in some of her exit press too,

that she made sure to leave like people on her tribe with a good feeling about Rizzo before she left.

Like she, she tried to separate them, but she mentioned how loyal he was.

How big of a fan he was.

I think she tried to lower his threat level.

So I think the people from old Cila are going to come into meeting Rizzo,

maybe wanting to work with him.

That's the case.

And he isn't in pretty good standing within this tribe.

The only thing that I just can't ignore is that there are four people coming from the original collo.

So that's the only reason why I was like, I wouldn't put him at the top.

But yeah.

Yeah, I get it.

And I do wonder, I mean, I see how quickly Colby switched on Rizzo.

Is that bread crumbs from the edit to say, hey, Rizzo might put themselves in bad positions every now and then.

He's able to walk his way out.

Like Rizzo and Q, even though Q is complaining about Rizzo, Q is telling Rizzo.

I don't have my vote because I'm going to need you.

Exactly.

Angelina got nothing last episode.

So Angelina, I feel like is more of who that was targeted at than Rizzo.

And Rizzo is is almost more goofy.

Whereas Angelina is coming across as more serious than the way Q is saying it.

So I don't know.

I mean, maybe I should be more concerned for him.

But I just.

You're right.

You're totally right.

And that's why he's he's definitely going to be my top 10.

He's just not.

He's not seven or eight for me.

Gotcha.

Who is it for you?

So the next one.

Is going to be sorry for me.

Just because if there's anybody that's going to like weasel their way in there socially.

And that's why I think I'm going to make Rizzo my I'm jumping.

But he'll be next because I feel like this this tribe isn't going to lose.

So I think it's going to be fun.

I think that's why I think Rizzo is like to play as a player is like Suri players like Rizzo all they need is a little bit of time to talk you up to Shmoos you.

And if these people survive one tribal council and they're like on a beach for three days.

I think Suri is going to be fine.

I think she's going to get in their ear.

She's going to win favor over people like D Camilla.

Maybe even Jonathan and she's worked with Devon.

So I think Suri is going to be fine.

She's going to be slower because how can you ever be super confident in Suri when she's the best to never win.

You know, like people are at some point are going to say we can't let Suri get the final three.

But I don't think about that a final 21.

But if you have your opportunity, maybe you do take it, especially here where she's going to be outnumbered at least from tribe dynamics.

At least four to three, even if Rizzo were to team up with them.

So you need other things to go your way.

But I feel like Jonathan's a cheat code in the new school challenges.

Even if two tribes go to tribal.

This is the tribe I don't see going.

Jonathan's great.

And then you have Camilla doing a puzzle.

I just look, if Camilla is not there and Rizzo is doing your puzzle.

Maybe we're having a different conversation right now.

But right now I'm feeling pretty good about this.

And like you forget Rick Devon's one three or four immunities too.

Like Rick Devon's is good at challenges.

Like they're all pretty good at challenges.

So I have Suri not too much lower than you have her.

Okay.

So then who would be your number eight?

Well, so you're putting Rizzo at nine as well, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

So you are doing that.

Okay.

So I am going to for eight.

This is where it starts to get harder for me.

So I'm going to try to go like and try to like maneuver the edit a little bit here.

But first before I do that, I'm going to go coach first.

Because I just think nobody's taking coach seriously.

Yeah.

And that's exactly why coach makes it far on every season.

It's why he was.

12th place on Heroes versus villains, which you might say, well, that's not that good.

The second and last man standing on that try.

Like the women were willing to use coach because they knew that coach at the end of the day is just coach.

Like whatever.

And then he's almost drowning in this last episode.

Jonathan's having to save him.

He's arguing with Ozzy right after we're talk while we're still on the subject of Kyle's Achilles rupturing.

Coach is defending his honor and integrity.

And I feel like this is such a good swap for coach.

And even if Colby without his vote, Colby coach Joe, that's an alliance.

And Colby's got Genevieve.

And then Chrissy, she's massaging coaches calves.

I mean, she's got to be in with you.

You're not massaging that man's calves unless you have at least a little bit of respect for him or something.

I don't know.

I mean, Chrissy.

First episode.

Sorry to call you off.

But Chrissy went to coach and she was like, I want to work with you.

She even told him about how she wants to target D.

So we've been showing a lot about, you know, between Chrissy and Coach.

So I think they're kind of like a package deal and they're fine.

Like they're loyal to each other is probably going to stay true on this tribe.

Yeah.

And like if you're Chrissy, what's so concerning about coach?

There's nothing.

There's nothing there.

And Chrissy wasn't shown to be a people pleaser on her season far from it.

I mean, she pissed off a lot of people on her season.

That's why she doesn't win at the end.

So I just feel like for her to do this, like her and coach, she does want to work with coach.

I think these are all good points.

So I'm going to put, I'm going to put coach at eight.

And then at nine, this is where I'm fighting with the edit a little bit.

This is probably higher than a lot of people are going to have this person because this person has been absolutely relevant on the season.

But I'm going to go Tiffany.

I just feel like you're bringing somebody back for a returning player season.

And I know if somebody was going to be invisible and get thrown to the side, it would be Tiffany.

Eighth place worst of the best finishes out of anybody on the season.

Like I could see it happening, but deep brought her back for some sort of reason.

The woman has one confessional in four and a half hours.

I just don't buy that then they turn around and they say, oh, and she got swapskirt.

I'm just not buying it.

So I'm going to put Tiffany at nine.

And I'm going to read way too far into the edit to come up with that decision.

Okay.

So that's a little okay.

So if we're going to say that about the edit.

I'm going to put, I'm going to do same thing and put Camilla at my number 10.

Okay.

Um, I think, and I know I put like this entire seal of tribe in my top 10.

But I just don't, don't see them going to tribal.

Just because of, you kind of put that in my head like that they have the strength.

They have the puzzle making.

So, but if they do, if two tribes go to tribal council, I don't know.

I still see it being like either color of a two.

So I'm, I'm going to go with Camilla like we haven't seen a lot of her.

But none of what we've seen has been bad.

And I think there's always big, there's bigger threats than Camilla.

Kyle's out of the game.

So for the same reasons, I think Rizzo might be fine.

Camilla might be fine in this tribe as well.

And she has the numbers to back it up.

So yeah, I'm going to put Camilla at number 10.

How do you feel Camilla and Surrey are going to get along?

That's a random question.

But for some reason, I'm looking at that relationship.

And I can't figure out how they're going to get along.

I know.

I can't see them getting along either.

But she was working with Dee and Tiff.

And I could totally see knowing Dee personally.

I could totally see Dee meshing well with Surrey.

And, you know, they're the only women on the tribe.

I could see them coming together, just like Tiff and, and them two did.

So I feel like they would get along.

I feel like Camilla probably a fan girl over her too.

And Surrey would love it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I got Camilla a little bit lower.

I have Surrey here at spot 10.

So you had mentioned Surrey in your eight.

I feel like Surrey.

Look, I know that they're outnumbered.

I know there's four from that original collo.

But I feel like if that original collo tribe was going to just steamroll the second half of the game

or steamroll in this post in this post swap portion, we would have heard so much more from them.

We've heard, we've heard really nothing from anybody over there.

I know people are saying, Dee's invisible.

Dee's invisible.

Tiff and he's invisible.

Camilla is invisible.

He was in the water.

Like, Coach is getting huge at it.

Not nearly what I thought we were going to get from coach.

Chrissy was super small.

So I feel like there's so much going like that would need to have happened on that tribe.

And then they would have shown us more of that if they were going to just dominate this.

So I feel like Surrey is going to find a way out of this.

And I'll figure out what I'm going to do with Camilla and Dee and Charlie

and Devons on that tribe as we kind of work our way through because

as we kind of work our way through because I really don't know. I don't know. This is a good swap

because you have to take into account what people knew each other about beforehand and everything.

So I think it's a good swap all around. Yeah, I think it's a good swap too.

And I'm trying to think who's going to be right. I mean, I need to pick someone from

Carlo. I don't want to leave them last. But I think with what you said about coach,

he's not the biggest threat right now, but he can probably contribute something to a tribe.

And I just I really feel strongly that these older people are going to come together in

in this swap. So I'm going to put him at number 11 for me. I'm going to put coach at number 11.

I think he would be fine. Like if there was someone to go first, I don't think it would be him.

So do you think coach, and I don't know what your take was before the season began. So I'm asking

this both ways before the season began and now can coach win this season of survivor.

I don't think so. I don't think he can. I feel like they're showing him

cramping in the water and kind of losing his mind over the fact that like he took the key from

Aussie to show that he's going to maybe flame out of this game because I thought he was,

he said when he took the key, I was like, hell, yeah, coach, like this is a this is season 50,

like own your game. But the fact that he wasn't and it hurt him so much that that Aussie was talking

about the fact that he took the key as a bad thing. I think even Aussie didn't care that much.

Like I'm sure Aussie was a little bit hurt, but I think he understood and and coach has like this

weird chip on his shoulder or something that is is giving me the vibe. He's not getting a winners

at it. So I don't see him winning. But I do see him going a little bit of the distance for that

reason. Like I don't think anyone else is threatened by him. Yeah. Tag with says the edit kind

of feels like Andy's at it from 47, which I could see where it starts off really bad picks up

and then gets cut. But that's the pickup still. Did you think he could win before the season began

or have you always just kind of been out on coach? I didn't really have an opinion. So I'm going

to say no. I'm going to say I wouldn't put him as a front runner for me. Okay. Yeah.

Because we were all we were all pretty high on coach coming in saying like he could win. He was

close anyway in his season. He's older now. Maybe he's changed. After last week, I'm like,

was he goofy in a bad way or was he goofy in an okay way? Like I'm trying to cling to the fact

that he can win because he's like, you know, I love token sheans. I was in high school during token

sheans. Like that's my season. You know, like I love that. I just I don't know. Last week was

weird for him. I mean, they're showing a lot more of him than anyone from his original

collar tribe. Yeah. So we can we can hold on to that. At least that. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, speaking of just like living in your your feelings and not using your brain at all,

I'm going to put Colby at my 11. He's not in a good spot at all on this tribe because he doesn't

have a vote. I still think Chrissy coach Colby Genevieve Joe that feels like an alliance to me.

If Aubrey does get the votes and she does play her idol, I think she'd ultimately go after Genevieve.

At least that's what the end it set up. It wasn't set up to be coach. All right, not coach. I'm

sorry. Colby. And I just have to keep hoping watching Colby drag the snake was the coolest thing

I've seen in a long time. Chrissy sitting on the bench clapping for him and smiling. Yeah.

I was just so happy that like real Colby was back fat man. So Superman and a fast suit gone. Like I

am so happy that Colby is getting this like redemptive arc right now. I hope that he's able to

keep going with it. But I feel like we are getting such a I personally think that the heroes villains

Colby is one of the most underrated players in the history of the show because he still got all the

way to fifth when he should have finished like 18th. But I feel like we're getting such a better

version of Colby right now than what we got in season 20. So I'm happy for him. I'm putting him

at 11 because I got to keep the faith even though I think he's probably doomed. I mean they have

shown him in like a position of of bringing in people together to make an alliance and he's

only gotten like a good edit in terms of strategy. But a swap can always change everything. But he's

got a good head on his shoulders for this season. He's clearly in good physical shape. So if they

go to tribal council maybe they'll be like he's he's strong let's not get him out. But he's not

up there for me just because he doesn't have a vote like that. The people with idols and stuff.

I'm keeping them kind of high. I mean besides Aubrey but I think you're right that she's not going to

get screwed because she has her guard up and she's ready to play this game this time. So for that

reason I'm going to go with Aubrey for number 12. So I love that pick for Colby but I'm going to

keep him lower because of the vote. You're actually thinking you're actually thinking with your

brain not with your heart that's different. You know like I'm I'm an idiot for putting Colby there

and I know it. No I don't think you're an idiot because I'm doing this just purely based on

I want to mistake. Yeah but yeah I'm going with Aubrey for that. I think you change my mind a

little bit. I would have put her much lower because of her positioning with her original tribe and

like it's kind of a weird kind of like group of people for this tribe but the fact that she has

an idol like she can use it at any time and I know for a fact that she will especially if she

thinks she's in trouble and she knows that something's off between her and Genevieve. So and also

did they show her maybe realizing they went through her bag or she didn't know at all. They didn't

show it and I'm curious if she noticed or not and why they wouldn't show it or maybe they'll show it

in this episode or something like maybe it'll be like I come the Jesus moment before and that's why

she's saying oh no like I got to play this idol you know who knows. Yeah because I don't know if

they're doing a good job of making her feel like she's in the group or if she does have her guard up

and she's like oh no I'm on the outs of this tribe but either way I do think you're right she's not

she's she came to play and she doesn't want to get screwed again so she hasn't idol she'll be fine

and she feels like she's in trouble. I can't handle that happening to her again. All right so for

my number 12 I'm going to go with Charlie. I feel like I don't know why I'm like not super high on

Charlie. I think it's just because we haven't heard anything from him. When you look at that tribe

you would think Charlie wasn't getting any heat from Jonathan or Dee or Camilla. I feel like he'll

get along with Rick Devins. I feel like he'll get along with Rizzo. I feel like he'll get along with

Suri but then I'm putting him down here because I'm like why do I know so little about Charlie

like why is Charlie who I think had the most or second or third most like he was in the top five

for confessionals in survivor history on his first season and a lot of that had to do with the

fact that it's an hour and a half season so that was like that was a big play but why am I hearing

so little from Charlie. He's a very good narrator. I know that that tribe was winning but it just makes

me reluctant to put him too high so you haven't met seven which you know that's that's feeling very

brave on Charlie I think but I put it at 12 like right in the middle where yeah I don't know I don't

know okay no that's a good that's a good pick it's a good pick it's fair um but I think the reason

why they haven't been showing him much is because this tribe it's kind of like the Hina tribe on 49

they just won so much it's not really a reason to show them and now that there's a tribe swap like

those dynamics don't really matter anymore like they showed us coach and Chrissy now they're on

this tribe together maybe that's like they they showed that for a reason and um and also like

Celo went to tribal twice so and there's big interesting players on that season they are on that

tribe so they want to show a lot of like Aussie and Surrey um so maybe and we'll see a lot more

of Charlie now or maybe not if they if they do win like we think they will yeah my question is on

your season how did Hina end up doing I mean they want a lot of them didn't go to tribal council until

the jury started so they did pretty well in terms of that but then they got kind of wiped out

yeah exactly that's what I'm saying yeah no it's true it's that's a fair that's what I'm

worried about for Colo we have Stephen on the podcast with Tec with tomorrow at 1 p.m. so

okay yeah so Stephen's doing that so um but yeah that's what my concern is is that like Colo is

gonna go the Hina way and I just don't know if one of them's gonna go out early in unceremonious

fashion and I could see it being Charlie I think even more than Tiff but yeah okay who do you

have an unlucky 13 um I'm gonna say Genevieve because we just have seen a lot of her and I don't look

at this new tribe and think she's gonna get swapscrewed Colby doesn't have a vote but she has a

good relationship with him for some reason I feel like 47 and 48 those people have they problem

met hung out maybe you have a good uh connection with Joe and and I don't know she doesn't seem like

the odd one out to me on this tribe so if they went to tribal council I don't see her going and they've

just I can't help but look at it again like she she seems like a main character and her tribe

hadn't even gone to tribal yet so um I don't know I don't see her her going home next at least so

I'm gonna put her at 13 yeah I I was I had Genevieve originally higher and then we started talking

and I just have now convinced myself that if that tribe goes Aubrey's playing an idol and Genevieve's

going home like I am the that's already happened as far as I'm concerned that's how confident I

suddenly yeah yeah it's gonna be this is a disaster this is when it all goes downhill like I think

about redemption island the first time when Boston Rob was playing that first episode with

Francesco Francesco like whatever and then the next episode with Matt getting blindsided it was

epic those first guys and the next one was a tribe they they threw the challenge and Russell

goes home and then it just was bad literally every episode from there on and I am just like I'm

not saying it's gonna get redemption island level bad but I'm so concerned that we are about to get

one of those episodes that people talk about for all the wrong reasons and I've only thought about

this for the last hour and 16 minutes so I'm looking back at like what has happened she started

off so in such a good position on her original tribe and then Kyle got many back two of her allies

in her alliance Q it could be lost her votes and then now she's on this new tribe with like someone

she's kind of like not getting along with who now has an idol I don't know I think you're convincing

maybe that's I'm gonna keep her at their team because like you said it's unlucky 13 she's been

pretty unlucky so far so I mean it's just devastating because if this happens like when they do

new era all stars and you get out there and you're like wow it's all two-time players wise

Genevieve also here just know that it's because they realize Genevieve got the worst luck maybe in

survivor history so when it's a bunch of people on new era all stars playing for the second time

and then Genevieve is the only new era player playing for the third this is why friends because

they realize that Genevieve really can bring it that would stink I mean I was I was like ready to

put Genevieve at like 10 or 11 and then we just started talking and I'm just like I don't know if

it's just the fear of God in me right now where I'm like no if I put her at like 20 or 21 maybe

that will save her but then also with the other guy who totally meant to say idle and not idiots

saying no it's it's only one I'm like oh God like if two tribes are going I feel like that tribe

has a very good chance of going they don't have that Chris he's good at puzzles but I don't know

I can see that tribe going coach gets a leg cramp during the challenge forget it I know he would

milk that too at this point he would land around and scream and rye and oh god okay so who's

your a 13 I'm gonna go Mike white okay yeah you had him you had him up at six I like Mike's

position here being he's got Angelina being he's got Christian being is the only one from his

original tribe I think you and Stephanie are in the most danger over there by far but he's still

Mike white and that's just you know why I'm gonna put him at 13 and I I feel like once I get to

like 16 that's where I start to feel like these people could really go home so I'm still not

necessarily I agree okay that's a good pick who do you have a 14 so at 14 I'm gonna put Aussie

so he's not at the top because I do worry about his position I feel like he's the kind of person

with all these like connections in this Valti tribe from from before even before the game started

like they could easily just be like let's get Aussie out because he's a big threat and and we

could all just come together and do that and then he doesn't have to read being like a like they're

thinking this they're they're talking about this so that's the only reason I worry about Aussie

but what keeps what's keeping him so high is that he has an idol and he could play it at any

time so I'm I'm gonna put him higher than someone like Q because Q doesn't have a vote and and that's

scary so yeah so I'm gonna say yeah Aussie at 14 okay and and another thing that's important to

bring up here in case you forgot as I know some of the 49ers did if you don't have a vote that

means you also can't play a shot in the dark so Q couldn't play a shot in the dark what what are

you buying that Savannah really just forgot that she had the shot in the dark available like what

happened yes I do I do that this didn't have Rizzo and I'd be like girl play a shot in the dark

so I I think she did forget um and also I mean no I wouldn't have hurt to play it she she went

on a six six to one vote so but yeah I do think she forgot I mean I don't blame her too that was

really like day 32 for her in the game not day six like for some of these people so yeah yeah

I mean Savannah had like brushed her teeth 14 times and that's that you know and then she's back

out there hope she brushed it with the 14 but like that's how little she had been home at that

yeah exactly so so I do believe that I do believe she went in like kind of in a different headspace

and other people and she made it for a while and also nobody used it on her season so it was not

a fault of mind were people discussing it on your season or not really definitely like we were

always worried about it so we just made made a point to like convince the person who was actually going

home that they weren't going home so that they wouldn't play it so that was like what we we always

talked about in terms of this the shot in the dark we're just like we got to make sure they don't

play it okay yeah so it was part of the discussion so it's not like she's like not thinking about it

because nobody was even thinking about it anyway so yeah okay that makes sense for sure

yeah all right 14 sorry and Savannah said she was going to tune into this I don't want people to

you know if I start the rumor now that Savannah's like a maybe brush her teeth once a day person

I don't want people to be coming back at me with that so sorry Savannah wasn't my fault I was just

I was just making a really under underestimating big time all right so number 14 I am going to go

go this is I don't think this is like really a person who's going to go home here terrible

edit but you mentioned a couple times now the one thing we did get that was remotely positive

was like hey coach you want to hang out and now she's still got coach so I'm gonna go

Chrissy um absolutely horrible edits so far I mean Chrissy is not winning this season at all like

she has just been dragged over the calls and I thought it was funny because then she had a great

tweet about it where it was like I unnaughted somebody's hair I massage somebody's calves and I

asked them if one of them wanted to make fire because I had already made it in 10 seconds and was

like hey if any of you want to practice go for it and I'm like the biggest villain on the season

so far so I thought that was funny but I am going to put her here because it's been a rough edit

but at the same time like this swap works in her favor I think for sure so I'm gonna put her

yeah I have to assume that there was definitely more to that then but then wouldn't they would have

showed it so I don't know um but something tells me that like that probably contributed to why she

lost her first season like maybe there was a lot we didn't see about her social game that was the

reason why she lost um her original season but I don't know I'm not gonna put her so high I'm

actually gonna go for for 15 I'm gonna do Stephanie okay just because like they haven't shown

anything about her where I just I can't see them being like oh now we're gonna show her because

she's going this episode um and I do think she's someone who's physically strong that if they lost

they wouldn't want to get out right away they would just want to use her as a number she has her