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John, the California Democratic Party has released their first poll.

They're going to be doing one every single week to convince the lower polling candidates

to get out.

And the first poll that they commissioned it came out today shows Steve Hilton in first

place with 16% Bianco in second place with 14% in a three way tie for third place at

10% each between swell well, stire and KT Porter.

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It is our pleasure to welcome our next guest to the program.

She is a columnist for the Southern California news group and host of the Howard Jarvis Radio

show, which airs Tuesday nights on K A B C N L A and K S F O in the Bay area.

You can follow her on exit Susan underscore Shelley, Susan Shelley.

Welcome.

Thank you so much, John.

Great to be with you.

So the big gubernatorial debate, which was supposed to go down tonight has been canceled.

Your thoughts?

Well, it's a very interesting situation of how they manipulated the criteria to get into

the debate.

You know, I think this is about the union not wanting Matt Mayhan or Steve Hilton or

Chad Bianco to have a direct microphone straight to the voters because if they talk to

the voters and they say, you know, California has huge deficits, California has huge problems.

California is owned and operated by the public employee unions.

If they say that, that's very bad for the unions.

So when you saw that letter come out from the state legislative leaders, that was very

odd.

And it was almost panicky that the six candidates on stage would get more time than the

ten candidates that they wanted there.

I don't think it had anything to do with rates.

I think it had to do with unions.

Well, what's the saying sometimes where you stand depends on where you sit.

And for a lot of people who sit in the legislature right now, they look at these low performing

Democrats and they see themselves.

They see people who came up through the machine, through the system and they work their way

up the food chain and they're trying to get the brass ring.

And for those people, that's been one step too far.

There's a ceiling where they hit those low level statewide constitutional offices and

that's as high as they can go.

And the political celebrities, people like Gavin Newsome and Jerry Brown, they're the

ones that can become governor.

But if you just come through the ranks in the legislature, that's not for you.

That's for them.

And because that group of people was being kept off that stage, I think for the members

of the legislature, they saw themselves and they took great offense to it.

And they see this click, this Northern California white Democrat click that keeps all the real

good spoils for itself.

And they give the crumbs to everyone else.

Well, that's certainly a good, that's a good call and it could be that.

But it's also true that these people who are in the legislature are caught up through

this political machine without any talent.

If people get elected on their own talent, if they're out there talking to the voters,

they would have more public support when there's Poland on their names.

But they don't have public support and yet they've achieved these very high career goals

of being elected to these high offices and new support.

So this is the political machine engineering candidates into these races, clearing the

field for them, donating to somebody else if they don't come through on the contract.

I think it's really about the labor unions owning the whole California government.

And that mayhem is being funded by billionaires who want to oppose that, they want to create

another power center in California through ballot measures, through candidates, through whatever

they can do to stop this socialist march to confiscation of everybody's assets, which

is where they're headed.

So I think that might be part of the story is that that mayhem is not in that click

with the unions, he's not been a supporter of them, he doesn't support higher taxes,

so he's not only a friend of the taxpayer, but he's not been a front for the unions

with so many of these candidates have them.

Do you see the pressure campaign working on any of them and any of them dropping out?

I don't.

I don't see it.

I think you have a very good point that they think these people at the top will implode

and they want to be the person who's still standing when that happens.

And they're all going to be on the ballot, so even if they were to drop out their names

are there, they're still going to pull a few votes.

It's a really tough situation if you were a Democratic strategist, and I'm not, I'm

just calculating, but if you were a Democratic strategist trying to figure out how to get

the outcome you want with a 10 candidates field, of course more than 10 candidates, but

10 candidates, you want to get the outcome you want.

What do you do because you push over here, you pull over there, you might get something

completely unintended up to primary, and so much depends on turnout, and perhaps

Republicans will be very motivated to turn out.

And maybe we will have two Republican candidates in the November runoff, it's not impossible.

Let's assume for a second that that happens.

When we wake up on Wednesday morning, and we're told that there will be two Republicans

on the November ballot, and the Democrats have been shut out, what does that mean?

Does that mean that Republicans probably keep that derelice receipt in San Diego that

goes in the Palm Springs?

Does it mean that Republicans probably keep a seat or two in the central valley that

the Democrats certainly would like to have?

Maybe the Kevin Kiley seat in Northern California is something that the Republicans could

hang on to.

I don't see how you motivate Democrats to turn out and vote in a November election when

there's no presidential race on the ballot to gin them up, there's no U.S. Senate race

to gin them up, and there's a choice between two Republicans at the top of the ballot.

I can't imagine that they will get excited by the Lieutenant Governor's race or the state

super intended of public instruction race or their city council race or their state assembly

race.

I don't see how you get them to turn out.

I agree with you.

There won't be any statewide measures on the ballot to turn them out, and the statewide

electorate, if we're talking about the governor's race, the statewide electorate is 38% voting

for the Republican or the conservative.

So Donald Trump got six million votes, that's a lot of people, and honestly, if you have

two Republicans and the independents have to pick one, I think you would have, I think

you'd have a pretty good outcome, and the Democrat machine would possibly, the cracks

would just implode the whole operation, because political machines do end.

And if they don't end in handcuffs, they end in this kind of thing with no leadership

and no center around which to rally, what that could happen.

If the Democratic Party determines that that is the most likely outcome, and they need

to bring in an executioner to whack some of these guys, who is it that they bring in, who's

the big gun, is it Newsom, is it Nancy Pelosi, is it Obama, is it Jerry Brown, who do they

go to?

Well, I think it was Obama for the Prop 50 campaign, and I think it probably would have to be

Obama, but how much, I don't know, how much credibility does he have in the governor's

race in California, but Newsom doesn't seem to want to get involved in it, and Kamala

Harris doesn't seem to want to get involved, and I don't think the senators, the U.S. senators

want to get involved, I'm not sure that there's anybody who will cross the supporters of

each of these candidates, because they all have supporters, you know, the Viragosa has

the Building Trade Council, and the Sarah has the Laborers Union, and a woman has the

California Faculty Association, has does the Sarah, so I don't really know, Betty Yee

has been endorsed by the Progressive Democrats of California, and the Progressive Democrats

of America, I don't know if anybody really wants to cross them, so it's not just crossing

the candidates, but it's crossing the endorsers and the donors, and it's just not that

clear, where is the advantage for Democrats to even take a stand in this, they're just

making enemies, and what's the advantage if they turn out to be wrong?

And if you're Obama, you're a former president, you're not going to run for office ever again.

Do you really want to lower yourself to a small-time party boss by calling Betty Yee

into a room and threatening her, or calling Javier Basera into a room and threatening him?

Is that something you really want to do?

Is that something that you want to be part of your legacy?

And you go back and you look at what happened in the last presidential election, when they

knew they had to get Joe Biden out of the race, no one wanted to do it.

It was Nancy Pelosi who was the one that stuck the knife in, but she did it way too late.

But she stuck the knife in earlier, they might have been able to salvage that campaign

and nominate a more electable candidate than Kamala Harris.

But they all waited too long because they were afraid of making the first step.

If you're going to try to go after the king, you better kill the king.

Because if you don't kill the king, pay back a badge.

And I think that they waited too long this time.

They could have forced these people out of the race.

They could have said, all right, you're going to get out and we're going to clear the field

for you for a congressional seat or we're going to make sure that you win the endorsement

for Lieutenant Governor or whatever.

But people have already filed for all of those offices.

Those plums don't exist anymore.

So I don't know how you bribed someone or how you entice them out of the race in March

of 2026.

This had to be done in October of last year, September of last year.

That's when you do this.

But it seems like they're just so used to winning and they're so used to getting what

they want.

They felt that the chips would fall in the place and now everything has gone haywire.

I think that's absolutely true.

And the other thing that we shouldn't underestimate the great campaign that Steve Hilton has been

running, where he's been up and down the state for three years, calling attention to the

failures of these policies and he's leading in the polls week after week.

He's leading in the polls.

And Chad Bianco on a law enforcement law and order platforms, he's doing very well in

the polls.

And it's calling attention to the what was also really uncovered in the Prop 36 campaign

that people are not happy with the situation in California by big numbers in all parties.

They're not happy with the way things are going in this state.

So the fact that the Republicans have been aggressive has shown the weakness of the

Democrats.

Well, that's one factor.

And something else that occurs to me is that when the low polling Democrats, as Hilton

called them, made this a racial issue about this debate, they could be sending a message

to people like Barack Obama, like Nancy Pelosi, that they will make it a racial issue if anybody

tries to lock them in a room and get them out of the race.

They will go straight to the race card.

Maybe that was what this was all about.

This is turning into worst case scenario for them.

Mm-hmm.

This is back for the Democrats, but it's good for California because if this has been a

one party state with no checks and balances, we have insane policies with no one pushing

back on them effectively.

It's raised the cost of living in this state.

There's a reason that California is so much more expensive than Nevada and Arizona and

other states across the country, and it's because of our dim-wit policies that no one's

pushing back on.

The oil companies have tried to push back on some of the insane energy policies, and now

the refineries are closing because they weren't laughing.

So the refineries are closing so we're importing gasoline.

What is that cost?

Well, you're seeing what it costs, not all the war in Iran because it's more expensive

in California than it is anywhere else.

And these are policy choices that really need to be reversed.

And until we have checks and balances in our California government at all levels, we

need it at the city, county, and state level, we are going to have insane destructive policies

pushed by special interest groups.

If you had a magic wand and your magic wand could make Donald Trump do whatever it is

that you wanted to do, and you wanted Donald Trump to help California Republicans get

Steve Hilton and Chad Bianco on the November ballot and lock the Dems off, what would Trump

do?

Well, given the polling that we saw at work in the Prop 50 campaign, he probably shouldn't

directly endorse anybody because that just creates this series of commercials about

MAGA and the rest of it that are just distorting everything.

So I think probably the direct endorsement is not the past.

The past is to call attention to the Democratic failures, which he's doing by coming down

on the greenhouse gas policies, reversing the endangerment finding that has allowed this

crazy amount of regulation for no good reason.

I think he's probably doing the right thing to challenge some of the goofy mandates in

California that are making life expensive.

But then again, that's kind of a slow track.

It's up in the air whether the immigration policy helps or hurts with the California electorate

because certainly Californians have not been really happy about all the public benefits

for illegal immigrants.

We saw that from Prop 187 forward that people are upset about what they consider to be

improper public benefits for people in the country illegally and California is really

led everybody in doing that.

If they make an issue out of that, well, they kind of are from Dr. Oz coming in and

talking about changing the formulas for Medi-Cal, but that's a little wonky.

I don't know that people will pick up on that.

So if I had a magic wand, I would say that Donald Trump should keep doing what he's

doing, which is challenging California's policies and pointing out the failures.

I think that's the most effective path, other than fundraising, fundraising would be

helpful.

Silicon Valley has gotten behind San Jose Mayor Matt Mayhan in a big way, so far that has

not translated in him moving up in the polls.

He's still stuck in those low single digits.

It's still relatively early and his shock and awe campaign on television and radio and

in the mailboxes hasn't really started yet.

Let's say he blows up on takeoff, let's say that they spend and spend and spend, but

he never really moves into the top two in the polls.

But an all-Republican November ballot is something that is certainly still a possible scenario.

If you are a Silicon Valley Titan, if you are one of these people that runs a tech company

and you need California to be a functioning place for your business to thrive and survive

right as the wave is hitting with AI, do you cut bait on Mayhan and then get behind

one or both of the Republicans?

I think that's a good idea.

I think Mayhan has a very long way to go from where he's currently polling at 4% and

a very short runway to get there.

So I'm not sure that you could spend enough money in the short time period to get people

to pay attention and both for him by May 4th is when the ballots drop.

So I think he might not be the ticket for Silicon Valley billionaires who don't want

a socialist California if they really want to fix the estate.

They should go for candidates who are sensible on policy and will provide a check against

the goofy leftist legislature, which is so far to the left of the people of California.

We see that in the votes on ballot initiatives, the people of California are much more centrist

and the legislature is way to the left.

So I would say that the best pass is to get behind sensible policies and back sensible

candidates.

And in this election, they're on the Republican side.

Susan Shelley, columnist for the Southern California news group and host of the Howard

Jarvis radio show, which airs Tuesday nights on K.A.B.C. in LA, K.S.F.O. in the Bay Area.

You can follow her on X at Susan underscore Shelley.

Susan Shelley.

Thanks so much for stopping by.

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Well, Randy, we finally found a campaign promise that Karen Bass is kept.

Oh, yeah.

She said she would get homeless people off the streets, correct?

That's what she said.

Well, she's doing it.

Now they're living in the sewers.

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Well, if you woke up this morning and you thought to yourself, you know, there are

bombs everywhere here in California.

Randy, you probably didn't think that that included the sewer.

Matthew Seedorf, the reporter at Fox 11 who loves to put himself in, should we say,

dangerous situations has investigated a new finding by LA hero, Juan Nala, the clean

LA with me guy that while he was doing one of his cleanings of streets of LA, he found

people living in the sewer.

Uh-oh.

For more on the sewer people that live among us, here's Fox 11 and Matthew Seedorf.

Only at Fox 11 tonight, shocking and disturbing discovery in South Los Angeles, some homeless

now living underground.

They're like the teenage mutant Ninja Turtles.

Inside the city sewer system, just to survive, Fox 11's Matthew Seedorf joining

us live after.

No, they're not surviving down there.

They're thriving.

There's like a whole economy going on down there.

Fox 11's Matthew Seedorf joining us live after witnessing these conditions firsthand,

Matthew.

Yeah, Christine, this is bad.

In the area isn't safe either.

We actually had a drive a few miles away just for safety reasons for this live shot.

Now, here's a question.

How did she's been to the Tijuana River?

Do you think Katie Porter is going to observe these sewers next?

You can smell it right here.

I would advise against that.

This is the second time in just recent months that Seedorf had to move the live shot because

it was not safe to have the news van out there.

That happened at MacArthur Park and it also has happened at the sewer encampment in South

LA.

Yeah.

Christine, this is bad.

In the area isn't safe either.

We actually had a drive a few miles away just for safety reasons for this live shot.

But the things that we saw, we won't forget.

I bet.

An up close exclusive look underground at living conditions to extreme for words.

It's hard to imagine someone leaving it there trash, human waste and an overpowering

stench.

I got it.

I got it.

Get back.

Oh, poor Seedorf.

There's no union protections against him being sent down there.

It was his idea.

I have asked several people at Fox 11.

He comes up with this.

Now he has to talk the camera person into coming with him.

But these are his ideas.

He gets a lot of scoops and he's like, yep, let's go to the sewer.

When I was a child, my mom, neither one of my parents were smokers.

My mom used to be part of a bowling league.

And when she would come back from that bowling alley, before she walked into my bedroom,

I could smell the cigarette smoke on her clothes because everyone around her was smoking.

Could you imagine what his clothes must smell like?

I get to imagine before Seedorf comes home, he's got a change of clothes that he's got

to get into.

I would hope so.

Poor guy.

Powering stench.

I got it.

Get back.

You can hear it in his voice.

He's crying, Uncle.

Just moments earlier, we watched someone climb out of that storm drain using the sewer

as shelter.

Water.

I'm not going to let this go.

Her answer is hard to understand.

I wonder why.

Sounds like a well-adjusted woman.

The sewer people are speaking in tongues.

But the area, 88th and South Grand, overwhelmed with RVs, Tenson Trash.

Yep, Karen Bass has really cleaned up the city, huh?

What do you say to her if you're Matthew Seedorf?

Take me to your leader.

But the area, 88th and South Grand, overwhelmed with RVs, Tenson Trash.

Hello, yes.

Juan Nala, with non-profit Clean L.A. with me, was picking up garbage here Monday.

We got a lady living down there when he saw not one, but two people emerged from the

storm drain.

How many sewer people are there?

There's a lot of them down there.

Well, and here's something you got to think about.

When we do these ridiculous homeless counts where Karen Bass gets to go all over the

TV and say that there's been visible reductions in street homelessness, how many of them

were living in the sewer because they guarantee you they weren't counting down there.

Yeah, I can't imagine some city employee with a clipboard going down into the sewer.

I can't explain that.

You know, a person living like a rat, worse than the rat?

Come on.

Hello.

And just two weeks ago, it happened again.

Someone is living in there.

Another street in South O'Lay, another person living underground.

It's a human.

It's a human being.

Why are we accepting this?

Every single street that Juan Nala is going to, he's finding people living in the sewer.

Meth, it's a hell of a drug.

Why are we accepting this?

Why?

All the officials, they have to do something.

They have to fix this problem.

It pisses me off.

That's what I was like.

What should I do?

I'm going to tell him to clean it up.

Neighbors angry.

Said it.

It's got a, that's the kind of attitude I would imagine.

When you live in a part of L.A., where you know government has failed to the point where

you're surrounded by filth.

By the way, Tiffany Haddish should be the man on the street in every single crime rap.

It pisses me off.

That's what I was like.

What should I do?

I'm going to tell him to clean it up.

You voting for bass?

That's what I was like.

That's what I was like.

What should I do?

I'm going to tell him to clean it up.

Neighbors angry.

Said they reported the problems, but feel ignored.

Like we need J.H.

We need that money.

The public here need that.

A shocking snapshot of survival at its lowest point.

This person doesn't accept to live like this.

Nothing even to neighbors.

One Nala is from Ecuador, which someone to be considered a third world country.

And he says L.A. is way worse.

Just wait till the Olympics come to town.

So I just got a statement from the mayor's office about five minutes ago saying that this

is you can hear it in his voice, even though he has moved away.

He is now got a little bit of trauma and his throat from just remembering what that

all smelled like.

And so he's a little choked up.

I feel like sending him one of those yanky kink gampels.

So I just got a statement from the mayor's office about five minutes ago saying that this

is tragic and unacceptable and unacceptable.

It happened under your watch.

Yep.

You're allowing it to happen, lady.

I mean, you could argue.

Oh, we didn't know they were in the sewer, but there's tents in RVs surrounding the

entire neighborhood.

There's so many tents in RVs.

They had to move underground.

I want to buy stock in our eye.

And then they're going to be out there tomorrow offering resources and help and trying to

clean up this area at the best they can, putting lives and I am at UC door Fox 11 news.

For as much as we pay to live in this city, nothing works.

Nothing gets done and nobody in elected office gets held accountable for any of it.

All right.

In Los Angeles, we certainly have our problems.

So let's move on to a city that definitely works like a Swiss clock.

The city of Oakland is shutting down a safe RV parking site.

You don't say I said, Hey, oh, no, baby boy, let me get up on out of here.

For more, here's Cron for more than three dozen people have called the safe RV parking

site on 71st Avenue in Oakland home since it opened back in 2019.

So what does it say if you have a temporary solution that's supposed to get people off

the streets and they've been sitting there with their RVs for seven years.

If it takes seven years, people end up with medical degrees in that amount of time.

And seven years later, notices of permanent closure have been posted on vehicles throughout

the lot, stating it will no longer be used as a safe parking site.

The total sort of at five o'clock tonight that if all of the stuff isn't out of here,

there's a phone out of the way or again, I don't want a stereotype, but every single homeless

person interviewed on the news has meth voice to a person every single one.

The total sort of at five o'clock tonight that if all of the stuff isn't out of here,

there's a phone out of the way or tone it out of here and we are subject to arrest.

With help from faith and community leaders, the city of Oakland opened the safe parking

site to get people off the street and into a more structured environment back in 2019.

How'd that work out?

Well they just need more time.

It has been managed by the housing consortium of the East Bay, the nonprofit has provided

onsite security, portable toilets and showers.

And I wonder how much they got paid to do that.

What do you think the common grounds are like in that particular RV park?

But residents say they have not been connected to services that could lead to permanent

housing.

I know something they've been here for seven years only here for those every years, Kenny.

What are we doing?

You know, the high cost to housing is a bit Randy.

Lead to permanent housing.

I know something they've been here for seven years only here for those every years.

Kenny says many of the vehicles in the lot are not in working order.

It is located across from the Coliseum Barth station now.

Oh, you've probably seen this one.

Oh, that's what you walk above when you're on that chain length catwalk to get to the

stadium.

It's RVs as far as the I can see.

They're active fires.

It's wild.

How happy are you that the A's moved to West Sacramento?

Oh, I'm going there for all four games when the angels play them in June.

And we still got our Oakland A's, baby.

Now it out.

It is located across from the Coliseum Barth station now grateful for the place that we've

been here.

You know, I've been here for five and a half years.

At least I had a place to be.

What does it say that you're living in an RV and a safe parking site for five and a

half years?

We're not helping these people.

We're just enabling them to sit there.

Well, Randy, if they didn't just pull the rug out from under him this fast, he would

be in great shape.

That's the third person they interviewed in this story, math voice station now grateful

for the place that we've been here.

You know, I've been here for five and a half years, at least I had a place to be.

But you know, that's the promises of getting into a house and not getting that just to

go back to the street or lose everything I don't think that's right.

We reached out to the city.

We sit there.

We promised these people that we're going to build them a $1 million apartment.

Just wait.

This solution makes no sense.

And we have a debate for who's going to be the next governor and we cancel it.

So we can't even talk about this stuff.

We reached out to the city of Oakland and the housing consortium of the East Bay for

comment on this story.

The city confirms it received our inquiry in Oakland, Philippe Jigal, Cron four news.

So there you go.

No explanation as to why this safe parking site is closing.

And it sure seems that if you have people that have been sitting there in their RVs for

seven years, this didn't work.

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Make sure you stick around for that.

But right now, it's time to open up the California crime blotter is the catch it is dummy.

We can make this stuff up if we tried the hell no baby boy, let me get up on out of

it.

Yeah.

It's the California crime blotter.

And Randy, this edition takes us to Stockton, a meat market in Stockton got broken into

not once, not twice, but thrice in one weekend.

Maybe they do a real good short rib for more here's a brisket ABC 10 in the Sacramento

area.

It's new tonight.

A Stockton meat market is buying hundreds of dollars in new equipment and now considering

safety changes after thieves stole from their business three times this past weekend.

It was all called on camera.

ABC.

Hey, you know what?

This place is so popular.

They've got repeat customers and repeat thieves.

Okay.

If you're going to rob a meat market, don't you need a refrigerated truck to do it?

I don't know if they stole the meat.

I think they stole some of the equipment that is used to process the meat, but I don't

actually think they stole filet mignon.

Maybe they stole the fat.

It was all called on camera.

ABC 10's in Gabriel Poris has the story tonight.

Still like so much equipment Saturday morning as they sped off these thieves didn't even bother

to close the trunk.

In the video, you can see when they're literally just loading everything in and out.

Just here Nanda's wishes he didn't have to see it.

A pair of thieves breaking into the back of his meat market and Stockton's a marada area

over the weekend.

Not once or twice, but three times.

They took the pressure washer, they took a blower, they took some display racks, they

took the pressure washer boy, that's just adding insult to injury.

They took a commercial fan that we had.

It all started before the sun rose on Saturday, secure.

So they took a whole bunch of stuff they could sell to the scrap yard and I'm sure the

upstanding business owner of the scrap yard is not going to ask any questions.

What do you think the owner of the scrap yard in Stockton looks like?

I imagine overalls, but one of the buttons is broken probably security camera video shows

at least two thieves breaking in, loading up and taking off the charcoal.

They took the charcoal about a half a charcoal.

Well, maybe they're going to the beach, it was warm, who steals charcoal?

The charcoal they took the charcoal about a half hour later they came back for more

work.

We decided to go get a new chain and a new lock that same day after closing because we

wanted to make sure it was going to be closed and then unfortunately we went to go buy it,

we came back, we locked it and we woke up tomorrow.

The next day morning we woke up to it being broken again for secrets out.

This meat market have everything for is everything is for grabs.

Uh oh, you don't want to be known for that.

For a third time early Sunday, two thieves break in, steal and drive away this time appearing

to wear shorts and flipplops.

It was laid back thieves.

It was crazy how casually they just came in and out, it looked like they knew what they

were doing.

We're not a huge corporation, you know what I mean?

I literally, you know, me and my wife, we own the business and we have our team and it's

like, it's not so easy for us to just say, oh yeah, let's just do this or let's report

to the insurance and get this and it's going to happen.

We're going to get it like, no, we literally have to come out of pocket to go and buy

these things.

Almost 2000.

Nobody have to get insurance anymore.

Have you ever heard of thieves looking like the beach boys?

That's the first time I've heard of thieves wearing flippity floppities.

Okay.

So if the thieves are going to dress like the beach boys, do you think they were there

to steal carne asada or carne Wilson?

Almost $2,000 in equipment, Jesse says, plus some more money on security upgrades.

And if they had the audacity to do it back to back and there's just people that don't

care.

So we will be having more cameras and stuff.

Jesse, it's back to back to back, but I don't want to rub salt in that wound.

And if they had the audacity to do it back to back and there's just people, should I fix

it?

Yeah, fix it.

Did he do it back to back to back?

All right, here we go.

Just so, you know, we help him.

I mean, he was stressed out, but we want to give you the accurate picture.

And if they had the audacity to do it back to back to back, and there you go.

All right.

Three feet like Pat Riley and there's just people that don't care.

So we will be having more cameras and stuff and be more percautious.

A small business owner doing what he can and now praying these steves don't strike again.

The moment it happened before the police got here, I went to church and I prayed for them.

You know what I mean?

I prayed for them and I said, you know what God?

What you prayed for are the criminals or you pray you prayed for the fan?

Well, I'd pray for the criminals too.

I'd pray for them to get run over by an 18 wheeler.

You know what I mean?

I prayed for them and I said, you know what God?

I don't know why they're doing the things they're doing.

Math.

Well, in this particular case, it's probably money if they're taking it to the scrap yard.

Yeah, but what are they going to do with that money?

Well, they're probably professional criminals.

This is probably their job.

I don't think the math people could figure out how to do all this.

I pray that they find peace and they don't continue to do wrong.

Instructed in Gabriel Poris, ABC 10.

Gabriel, thank you.

Law enforcement is investigating the cases.

Anyone with information can reach out to Stockton Police.

You see anyone wandering around Stockton in flip flops,

carrying an industrial power washer.

Let us know.

Okay, Stockton, if you allow that meat market to get hit again,

you're all going to be vegan.

No one wants that.

What are you going to do?

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