You've obviously sat with a lot of people on the side of the veil,
decided our cross communications. I wanted to ask you what's one of those
shocking truths that souls awaken to as a transition to the other side of the
veil that most of us on the living side are actually completely blind to.
I just had an reading that I did today that if they were deeply religious,
they see that it was very limited their belief system. And they get over there and they just
they go like this. I see that motion and that means my eyes were open. It's so much more vast
and I can have that belief and it was true to a point, but there was so much more.
So it's not it's shocking in a good way, you know, to find out that yeah,
you're met by Jesus or Mary if that's what your belief and hope was. And then Jesus himself
will show you it's all about the oneness. I see that that's just happened today. In fact,
again, yet that another loved one came in today and said, yes, there's more, but I want to stay
in my little box. And I wanted to ask, like, what does it imply that when you're communicating with
loved ones on the other side of the veil that because some people say, oh, like the soul's kind of
go through the journey of the bados and then they kind of get read and what kind of one of the
belief systems being they go through the journey of the bados and then they re incarnate into a
different life. But if you're speaking to them on the other side of the veil, does that mean they're
not yet incarnate into another life or are you talking to the higher self? What's what's
going on there like in the dynamics of it? We're all talking to each other's higher self,
but we're playing a role. And so this has been shown to me by my guides over and over that
this is one role that the oversoul plays and the oversoul that that soul's story arises as
it's needed. So maybe that soul is continuing the story across the veil, but if you're sitting
with the medium, that oversoul is going to, that person is going to show up right away, even if the
oversoul is already having another experience in a body playing another role. It's not limited to
one at a time. The metaphor that comes to mind is, yeah, I remember one of my favorite short stories
that reads as a poem is Andy Wee is the egg and he says, you know, at the end he says, like, you
know, you put your little bit of your finger in the glass to have an experience. And that's what
living a life kind of is. And when you pull your finger out, you know, you have like whether it
was hot, whether it was cold, you've got all the experience and the rest of you is like kind of
the soul that's having the experience. So what I'm hearing from you is that, yeah, they might have,
the oversoul might have put its finger in another glass somewhere, but you still get to speak
to the rest of the being that's actually there at that time. Yeah. This one salt, they said,
mom, I've realized who I am. And I can dissolve right now. But I like talking to you. So I'm playing
the role as your son, but I'm still every bit your son. And you'll see me when you cross.
It was very cool. How much do relationships keep people on one side of the veil? Like, you hear,
like, I, you know, interview Dr. Professor Moody. And he, you know, has coined the term
near desk experience, literally read all the books on it. And, you know, even when I was
being to him, it was vis-re-ly like obvious that a big part like he's very content with whether he
moves on or stays like, but for him, it was like, oh, I've got some, you know, like, and I really want
to see more parts of this. And we stay as long as that relationship is satisfying and serves a
purpose. Yeah. It does imply that relationships are a very deep sacred currency through life.
That's what it's all about relationship, loving, serving, interacting, growing together.
Can you speak to us of some of the healings that happen for people as they realize that their
connection and that relationship is actually still present even after someone's transitioned on?
I mean, that must be such a big part of your work. That's the main thing. It's all about healing
relationships, finding out that they're still okay across the veil or that, wow, the one woman,
one of my very first readings I did when I realized how healing was this woman,
an older woman. And I said to all your mothers here, and she stiffened up. I said, she's coming in
with an apology right away. She shows me this motion. So I know she abandoned you as a baby.
And she said, yes, me and my eight brothers and sisters. So I silently said to the mom,
why did you do that? And the mother explained why she left the family. And the woman just sat
there very sternly nodding, listening the whole time. And when she got up to leave,
she turned back to me and she said, I've held anger for my mother for 75 years. And in one hour,
it's gone because she had understanding. People get to say what they didn't say while they were
here, which is why I tell everybody, say what you need to each other before you have to find a
medium to do it through, right? Yeah. Yeah, I can't remember who was on the podcast recently,
but oh, it was Anita Morjani. I don't know if you know her name. Oh, yeah. And she was talking
about how in her lifetime, her father was actually like a, like a challenging relationship for her.
But then when she, then he, he had passed, and then she had her near-death experience. And then
when she went over to the other side, she realized a lot of the challenging elements for him,
where a lot of the challenging elements for her, a lot of that was just cultural distortion.
But actually, he was one of her greatest allies ever. But he was distorted because of all the way
that he was up brought in this reality. And then when she went to the other side, she was like,
oh, my God, this is like one of my, and it was so healing for her,
despite if she hadn't had that experience, you know, like her father would have been such a
challenging element, you know, that relationship. And it's interesting to, I guess,
consider, you know, just how much of the challenges that we have with our loved ones, how much of
that is due to the mire of the environments that we're all raised in, whether and what our true
essence really is underneath that. The true essence of all of us is the same. It's just that pure
being without a story. We're all just source living through stories. So when that, that surrender
phase of my blessed me method is surrender the story and what's left. I am.
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