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This podcast was recorded a little bit earlier than 10 p.m.

So I will let you know that there were games tonight on the NHL schedule, a handful of

games.

And probably the ones that were of most interest to the Montreal Canadians was the game

between the Carolina Hurricanes and the Pittsburgh Penguins in Carolina and Ottawa visiting

the capitals in Washington because of course, Carolina and Ottawa, Carolina is in the

playoff picture.

Ottawa is just outside the playoff picture in that game, by the way, between Ottawa and

Washington, Cole Hudson and his debut in the National Hockey League.

So if I'm not going to be talking about the updated standings, now you know why, but

what I will be talking to you about is that huge Montreal Canadians win yesterday over

the Boston Bruins by a score three, two in overtime.

It was an exciting one.

It was a dad.

The everyone's talking about the way the game ended, of course, with Lane Hudson, the Nick

Suzuki and Suzuki who threads the needle.

He passes the puck in between a pasturnax blade and underneath his stick.

It's unbelievable.

So right underneath his stick and it goes right through Charlie McAvoy's legs to Cole

Coughfield, who's all alone on the doorstep, was able to actually get in there.

Maybe you know what, playing a little game of hiding on a stick, boom, boom, boom, here

you, you know, now you see me, now you don't.

And maybe they knew where he was, but they probably thought there's no way that Suzuki's

going to be able to get him that puck.

And if you didn't know already, the Nick Suzuki is an unbelievable playmaker.

Well, you saw exhibit a last night.

That guy is absolutely amazing.

Speaking of amazing Cole Coughfield's 40 goals are amazing.

Nick Suzuki's 80 points are amazing.

Lane Hudson is amazing.

His shift in overtime was amazing.

His play to break up a two on one was amazing.

The way he decided to take matters into his own hands when the cranes were down by a

screw or two to one was amazing.

The Canadian's best players were their best players last night.

Suzuki was outstanding, Coughfield was outstanding, Lane Hudson was outstanding, and some

of their players who aren't their best players, but can be dominant when they're in one of

those moods.

Josh Anderson came up big for the Canadians and the Canadians, you know what, Jakob

Dolby's rewarded the Canadians by saying thank you very much for giving me the assignment

to take on the Boston Bruins.

He was great as well.

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I am fantastic Tony, hope to see you, hey spring is coming early on Friday, I can feel

it in the air.

Yeah, you know what, the weather is starting to turn around here too, after a very, very

windy couple of days today was the snow was starting to melt, which is pretty, pretty

nice.

All right, okay, spring is coming pretty early, but we can small the playoffs and they're

around the corner, they're about one month away.

That game last night between the Canadians and the Boston Bruins, Marty Saint Louis called

it the most important game of the year, and it was, and it's funny because tomorrow night

in Detroit for the Canadians is going to be the most important game of the year.

Now that one's out of the way, cool coffee old, and it's, it's incredible, became the

first Montreal Canadians 40 goal score since Vinny Donfus did it back in 1993, 94, and

it's, and it's funny because Pierre McGuire joined me last night on the Habspost game

show, and he says, yeah, I remember that Donfus goal, and I said, oh yeah, he goes, yeah,

I was coaching the team, he scored it against, and he says they beat us that night, and so

that's, you know what, and I've thought about it all day today.

You know, everybody 32 or younger has never seen a Montreal Canadian player score 40 goals.

I mean, that's a, that's a huge accomplishment.

Co-coffield should be very, very proud, like hitting 40 doesn't happen every day, only

two players in the national hockey league have 40 this far, and it hasn't happened to

a Canadians player once again in 32 years.

Pretty cool, man.

Yeah, no question about it, and you know, you think about the other record that he, that

he has set, the other unique thing, most over time goals by a player in the history of

the Montreal Canadians.

So, and he just turned 25 in January, you know, Vinny Donfus was a little bit older when

he was scoring 40 goals.

Co-coffield, I would suggest as a, a number of 40 goal seasons left in, I mean, he's

the lead.

And one of the things that I've always felt about Cole, and seen in Cole, and continued

to see in Cole, is the way that he forces goalies to defend the entire net, he's not looking

for one spot, he moves around, and he can hit so many different spots on the net with

the precision that he has with the outstanding release.

So when you're a goal tenor, face the co-coffield, he gives nothing away, there's no tells, and

that's what allows him to keep goal tenors on their heels, but it also does, and you

said playing hide and seek, Cole shows up at the right spots at the right times.

He never, and I've seen this from the time he was 16 years of age.

He never engages on an opponent's terms for the most part.

He doesn't go on getting gains and unnecessary, the one on one battles, he doesn't get himself

tied up unnecessarily in and around the net.

He moves, but he's always moving with a purpose, he's always reading the play, his anticipation

is outstanding, and surprises me none, Tony, that he has scored 40 for the Montreal

Canadians.

As a matter of fact, I'd like to bring up a chart in just a second, which we will.

I just came across, I just came across, and you know, his draft year, 2019, and I know

you know it well, I'm sending it over to Schengelmore right now.

He has the most goals of any player in that draft year, tied with Jack Hughes, who went

first overall.

Coffield went 15th overall, only Coffield has done it in 61 less games, which is really

cool.

I have to say, Jack Hughes has 115 more points, I get it, but I think that's pretty cool.

Schengelmore and Master Control, if you could actually bring it up so we could take a look

at that draft year, I think it's pretty cool to show the numbers.

And I remember the draft Craig like it was yesterday.

The Canadians had taken Coffield out to supper, represented by Papri Somme.

And Mark Bergevein spoke with Pat and said, I'd like to take him to supper.

And Pat said, why are you going to take him to supper?

You're drafting 15th.

He's going top 10.

Well, he's slid in the draft, Craig, the way a lot of smaller players do.

And he was right there on the Canadians lap when they drafted 15.

Take a look at that chart.

Once again, look at that 158 goals in 353 games.

One of two players, they had 40 goals this season.

Having a career year, his numbers keep going up.

What an amazing pick at 158.

Three of the top 16 picks play for the Montreal Canadians currently.

Yeah.

I'm sure we go Coffield and Alex North.

Yeah.

Alex North.

So, interestingly, you know, you see how players move around a little bit, it's, you

know, Cole only went 15th because people wanted to scout with a tape manager.

That's as simple as that.

They all, what about a size, what about this?

Do you know what Tony?

I'm going to tell you what is essential to be a good goal score.

There's three things.

And they go in this order.

Number one, being able to get to the right spots on the ice and be able to find those spots

so you can get your shot off.

Number two, is to be able to take pox.

It's to take pox.

Not every pox is perfect.

You've got to take tough pox and you've got to be able to, what I call a tough pox.

You've got to be able to maneuver it into a shooting position.

And number three is, is being able to get that shot off accurately with precision and

not have it blocked, get a stick on it.

Those are the three requirements to be an elite goal score.

Did I mention height in any of those, in any of those areas?

None.

And wait, did I mention that you have to be a hulking six foot seven people overlooked

goal coffee held because they wanted to look at the height and they missed it.

And they missed it big time.

I, I, I, he looks at, I'd be willing to add that this guy goes to, he's not afraid to

go to traffic areas.

Never was.

He doesn't have to play in traffic.

Tony.

Yeah.

You got to go to where the dangerous areas are.

And when I say he doesn't get engaged on the wrong, on the opponent's terms, he doesn't

go on battle in front of the net.

Brennan Gallagher has to play differently than Cole Coffield.

And so Brennan Gallagher plays that way, because that's how he's got to play.

Cole Coffield doesn't have to play that way.

This idea that he did, like Cole Coffield pays a price, Cole Coffield's a competitor.

He's a goal score.

He's elite.

He was elite back then.

I mean, I can tell you this, they're not like, the, the, the first three pitch in the

draft.

And I'll even say four, because he, he's so good.

And, but the first four picks in the draft, and I don't, you can put them any way you

want.

Hughes, Baldy, Coffield, Cider.

That's who it should have been the first four picks.

Now, I'm not saying that, like, you can pick whatever order you want.

I'm just telling you, those are the four best players, and that stretch of the, of that

draft.

And just all Montreal did was get really like, that's, you know, one of the things in the

draft comes up, and people ask me, oh, how good is the draft?

You know, people get caught up in that drafts get defined, but who's at the top end?

So celebrating is the first overall pick.

Conor McDavid's the first overall pick.

Awesome.

Matthews is the first overall pick.

Matthews shape is the first overall corner, but guard only one team gets that player.

So you're telling me that because the draft is good, because it has the dart in it.

It's not good.

Teams are draft.

Well, it's a good draft.

Teams that don't draft well, it's not a very good draft.

Do you know the Arizona coyotes traded up to 11 to take Victor's sort of strung?

Yeah.

That was the only trade in the first round that year.

They traded up to get a guy that started NHL player.

So you know, again, I don't want to hear about good draft, bad draft.

You have a good drag.

You're draft.

Well, it's a good draft.

You don't draft well.

You better ask yourself why you didn't draft well.

There's 45 players that'll play 350 games or more in every draft.

It's crazy.

I'm with bearing degrees.

Yeah, it's crazy.

He's playing with the 45.

He's playing with the Providence Bruins.

It's something else.

You know what?

I want to get NHL player.

Yeah.

He traded up to get them.

They passed not boldly.

Yeah.

I want to give Trevor Timon's a lot of credit because it could be a logical pick at 15,

but at the same time, let's not forget.

He's a player that a lot of teams passed up on because they said he's small.

He won't be able to do in the national hockey league.

He's going to get killed yet.

Yeah, we've heard all that stuff before, right?

Said the same thing about Lane Hudson.

I remember the Canadian's draft table.

The Canadians actually had video coverage on their Habs TV.

They put it out there on YouTube.

And Mark Bergevay as most general managers do.

He lets, you know, his scouts take care of it.

And obviously he gives them the responsibility.

Trevor Timon's looks over a change, Sherlock and company.

And he says, I say coffield.

And you know, Shane Sherlock says, yeah, you know what?

I say coffield.

Everyone at the table says, yeah, you know what?

I think so.

Let's go coffield.

Let's go with the goal score.

Let's go with the goal score.

And Trevor Timon starts it.

And he says, I say coffield.

And then he listens to all his scouts.

And what they have to say, they give them their input.

And then he looks at Bergevay and he says, coffield, are you okay with that?

And Bergevay says, yeah, okay.

Let's do it.

Boom.

And you got to get a little lucky, too, because I remember at the draft,

they were saying we need Dale to take the goalie.

And Dale took the goalie, right?

It took Spencer night.

And you, once again, you got to get a little lucky because Cam York went right before

at the Philadelphia.

And maybe he was going to be the guy that the Canadians were going to take.

Like, I don't know.

But look, credit to Timon, credit to the scouts, credit to Bergevay, credit to them all.

That's a great pick.

I saw something earlier today, which actually I was really surprised by.

Okay, because the Canadians have a rich, long history.

And Lord knows they've drafted a lot of good players.

How many, before we bring it up, Craig, how many players would you think the Canadians

drafted to score 40 plus goals in a season with the Montreal Canadians?

Don't want to put you on the spot, but I'm curious to see what you'd have to say.

A deal of fur deal, deal of fur was really easy.

So I'm going to start in that draft, I'm not going to go before that draft.

Yeah, deal of fur is really easy.

Steph, I reshade scored 50.

He scored over 40 a couple of times.

Cole Caulfield, who's drafted by the Montreal Canadians.

I'm trying to, I'm trying to think, is there any that I don't think Matt's ever scored 40.

Did Matt score 40?

Did Matt's now some score 40?

The season he had at some point.

See, I think he picked 40 to goals or something.

Yeah.

So there's four, I'm trying to think, did Matt's patch are ready score 40?

No, he did not.

I don't think so.

Just fell short, right?

He just fell short.

He was high.

Yeah, I knew he had just fallen short, right?

I'll add this, by the way.

Ryshe never had 40 as a Canadian.

He did have a season of 50 and 51, but you have to have 40 to get to 50.

I get it, but I'm just saying because you said he had a couple of 50s and he had a couple

of 40s, but he had a 50, he had a 51, and then he was under 40 for the other seasons

with the Canadians.

So obviously Ryshe is definitely an answer for sure.

There's no doubt about it.

Let's bring it up.

I'll show you this.

This is pretty cool.

So the Canadian's rich history.

Look at that.

Look at this.

He's got to Napier, Nazland, Ryshe and Caulfield.

Yeah, I wouldn't have got Mark Napier, but you know, and let's remember that one.

Mark Napier got drafted before Mike Bossy.

Yeah, yeah, here you go.

Well, what did you say?

You know, you talk about, you know, Mark, Mike Bossy was the 15th overall pick, just like

Caulfield.

Yeah.

And, you know, Mark is a good player, just think about the draft.

Think about it.

Think about it.

They got lucky.

The Islanders got.

Bossy's skating though, right?

I guess a lot of people to talk about.

Oh, I come to skating.

Do you want to know what it was?

They were stupid.

There was a dumb thing and like seriously, you know, and listen, some of the best scouts

had made dumb pets.

And I'm not here to knock Mark Napier, okay?

But the bottom line wasn't about skating, wasn't about anything.

They didn't think he was a very good checker.

And the great line was Al Arbor when he was asked about taking a big rugged kid from

Western Canada or taking the goal score who wasn't very good defensively.

Al Arbor told Diltori, he goes, give me the goal score.

I can teach him how to check.

I can't teach the other guy how to score.

And listen, Ron and Karan and that scouting staff, they were brilliant.

They drafted lots of good players.

They also missed on players because that's part of the equation of missing.

I'm not here to knock Mark Napier because he was a good player, okay?

The point I'm making here is Trevor Timmons was a good scout.

And everybody wants to talk about all you missed here and then everybody misses.

Everybody misses.

And what you do is you got to look at it over time and you know, was Mark Napier a miss?

Well, it's a miss when you start to put it in context of you could have had Mike Boston.

And Mark Napier was a good player, really good player.

I'm just saying that just keep that in mind when you assess that Trevor Timmons was a good scout.

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no, no, he wasn't.

He was this.

He was that he was awful.

Look, I'm not going to make any excuses for him.

Nobody bats for a thousand.

There were a couple of extenuating circumstances which made that unfortunately,

some of their picks didn't pan out.

The two years that they had picked number three.

He went with a sentiment because they needed sentiment in the organization.

They needed sentiment on the team and he felt pressured at taking one.

There's another year that Louis LeBlanc was up when the Canadians picked, which was,

I don't know, 16, 17 or 18, whatever it was.

And there was some pressure into taking the hometown boy in that one.

So, and look, and there were another couple of hiccups as well,

but there were some good picks.

I do believe that the Canadians lacked in their player development department

when Trevor Timons was with the Canadians.

And if he would have been able to benefit from a player development department

and some of the people the Canadians have in place now,

I think his players would have been a lot better off.

But once again, nobody bats for a thousand, okay?

So, Cole Coffield, once again, hits 40 goals.

And there's another amazing number that I have to go with this 40, okay?

Game winning goals, you talked about that amazing number.

He scored five of them and over time, it's an amazing number.

I'm going to give you another number.

Are you ready?

And it's in reference to Cole Coffield, okay?

And the number is zero.

Do you know what I'm referencing?

Nope.

Zero empty net goals at a 40, zero.

Now, that's a pretty interesting stat because, you know,

you get to that number.

You got empty net goals in your basket.

It's an interesting number.

And now, look, some will say, well, maybe he's not at the point

where he could be trusted with, you know, an advantage of one goal.

He's really improved this 200-foot game over the last couple of years.

And that's a credit to him.

And that's a huge credit to Marty Sanloy.

Marty really took him under his wing and said, you know what?

I'm going to make you a 200-foot player.

And he did, Craig.

He really did.

It takes two, though, right?

It takes the commitment and the work ethic

and the discipline from the player.

And obviously, they were able to pull it off.

You know, you're exactly right.

I mean, it's an investment in development

as you just talked about in terms of your young players.

It's players investing in themselves.

And you can't make any player better

than that player wants to be.

And Cole Coffield is wired to be the best he can be.

You look at the physical maturity that came with it.

And, you know, he was playing in Wisconsin with Alex Tercon.

And I watched Alex for a long time.

And, you know, Tony Granada was coaching in Wisconsin,

Marco Seakey, two really great coaches,

really good development, like people, developers.

And Alex was so keen on getting out of Wisconsin and going pro.

And Cole stayed.

And you look at how Alex's career is gone.

And Alex is finding his way a little bit now.

Third line center.

You don't get drafted fifth overall to be a third line center.

I guarantee you that.

Cole Coffield goes back for another year, maturity.

Oh, he won the Holy Baker.

Comes to the NHL.

You know, we saw what he did in that playoff run and 21.

And now you see where he's at.

You know, the other part of this too,

and you're talking about development is,

and it's something that I say continuously.

The natural laws of maturity, physical, mental,

and emotional, you cannot speed them up.

So you better recognize where players are at,

and in terms of any of those three areas of maturity,

and then work with them along those lines.

I believe that, yes, Barry Cutty and Emmy

should have never been anywhere near North America,

18 years of age, but he got rushed in.

And I can't say for certain that Cutty and Emmy

would have made it if it was done differently.

But I thought it was a good pick at three.

I'll be fully, fully honest with you.

Louis LeBlanc had decided to go to play college hockey,

and the Montreal Canadiens insisted on him leaving.

I'm not gonna say Louis LeBlanc was gonna leave,

but his development passed,

and maybe he just didn't believe in the way

he was being told to play and develop.

So, you know, it's not just a player not making it

because he didn't want to.

Sometimes it's weighted more to the team.

Sometimes the player didn't have the skills.

Sometimes it's a combination thereof.

And I think Cole is a great example

of the Montreal Canadiens.

You know, Michael Hage is dominating college hockey.

Yeah.

He's dominant player.

To me, if Michael Hage wants to leave college hockey,

like he's got a basis for leaving

because he's dominated that level.

To me, he's ready.

If he feels it another year would benefit him?

I don't think that would be a problem

if I was with the Montreal Canadiens or advising the young men.

But I see Sasha Bovera just signed

with the Bush-Nargo Blackhawks.

I saw that.

He has, I mean, he wasn't even a functional college player

this year at BU.

And now you're gonna turn, bro.

Oh, good luck to you.

I got nothing.

I like Sasha, but I don't think he's ready,

but Blackhawks, too, we'll see.

I hear you, January 2nd,

Co-Coffield found out that he would not be

part of that U.S. Olympic team.

Since January 2nd,

you wanna know who has the most goals

in the national hockey league?

I guess you guessed it, Craig Button.

Why don't we bring it up here?

So there you have it.

This is Daniel Rechard of RDS who put this up.

He says January 2nd, Co-Coffield found out

that he was not chosen to be part of Team U.S.A.

Since then, Co-Coffield has scored 20 goals.

A head of Doraphayev who has 19,

Kutraov who's got 18,

Zach Khyman and Wyatt Johnston who have 17,

Alex Tuck 16, Zabinajad, Drysidol,

Capricov and Kutraov gochie have 15.

That's a nice response, huh?

It is, but knowing Cole, he's internally motivated.

You're gonna be disappointed

about not making the Olympic team and you should be.

You wanna play at the highest level,

you wanna represent your country and Cole has done that.

And you know he'd be disappointed,

but he doesn't need outside motivation

to move forward and to be the best player he can be.

And too many players, I shouldn't say players,

that's not fair.

When you're extrinsically motivated,

then you always need these things outside your own control

to be at your best.

Cole doesn't need that, Cole's wired.

He's internally wired to be the best.

And I think that number speaks volumes.

I think that the fact of the matter is

is that you know he would have been proud

to be part of the U.S. Olympic team,

but Bill Garen made the right choices

because the U.S. Olympic team won the gold medal.

He's definitely vindicated

because they won the gold medal for sure.

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All right, okay, I like playing trivia with you before

and by the way,

by the way, you are pretty good at it.

I got another one if you feel like playing.

Sure.

Okay, I can't say no, Tony.

How many captains in Montreal,

Canadians, Montreal, Canadians captains in their history?

Do you think had multiple 80 point seasons?

Well, for me, because I know that the lineage of captains

for the Montreal Canadians,

so, you know, Bob Gainey never did,

Mike Keane never did,

Guy Carbono never did, Chris Chalios never did,

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So now where you said 80 points, right?

Multiple 80 point seasons as Montreal Canadians captain.

Okay, so,

a belovo,

then it went to Henri Rechard.

I'm going to say belovo Henri Rechard.

I'm going to stop here.

So we're going to bring it up.

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And I was shocked to see this.

Here turns off.

Yeah, I should have seen that one.

Okay.

Suzuki is two of five has now two of five seasons

of 80 points by a Canadian's captain.

So as captain, belovo only had 80 plus once.

Terje only had 80 plus once.

Don Fous only had 80 plus once.

And Suzuki did it twice.

By the way, I was shocked when I saw this

because I was willing to bet that but melevo

had done it multiple times.

Did he do it before being captain?

Correct.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then on and then on and then on we do it

before becoming captain.

I'd have to take a look at Henri Richard.

Let me just see.

Henri Richard.

Henri Richard.

How many 80 plus point seasons that Henri Richard have?

Henri Richard hit 80 once and he wasn't captain.

Yeah, so that's what it was.

So I like, you know, but I, but I should have guessed

pure Terje, I would have missed on that song.

Don Fous.

Yeah, but that's not the end.

The answer is multiple seasons.

I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

Suzuki is the only one.

I mean, isn't that something?

It is, it is.

It really is.

That's, you know, let me just see.

I want to see one more thing.

John Beleville, Captain History,

was captain from 61 until his retirement in 71.

So he had seasons of 88 and 84 and 91

before he, before he was captain.

And then from 61 to 71, he had,

but I, you know what, I could be wrong.

This might be incorrect because I see two seasons.

In 1960, 61, he had a 90 point season.

Oh, but he was, he was the captain to start the 61 season.

That was it.

So he was the captain to start the 61 season.

He had 41, 67, 78, 43, 77, 38, 68.

He had an 82 point season in 1969

and then 49 points and 76 points.

So his best seasons, obviously,

were done right before he was captain.

Seasons of 88, 84, 91 and 90.

Isn't that something, eh?

Nick, you know what, yeah, do you know what else is something?

I'll tell you this too, which is very interesting

that, you know, after the 1959, 60 season,

which after Montreal completed their five-year run

of Stanley Cups.

Before that time, power plays were served fully for two minutes

and you could score as many goals as possible

on the power play and then the five,

then the five other general managers conspired

against the Montreal Canadians to put in a rule in

that after one goal, the penalty he expired

and he came out of the penalty box.

So I would imagine that some players,

not just in Montreal and John Belibault specifically,

some other players benefited from having a little bit

more power play time and being able to put up some points.

I met Nick Suzuki's parents in Milan

during the Olympics, Rob and Amanda.

Salt to the Earth people, they left a very, very

favorable impression on me and so, you know,

they should be not only very proud, obviously,

of what their son's been doing this year with the Canadians,

but that's an unbelievable record when you think about it.

He's the only captain in the history of the Montreal

Canadians to have multiple 80 plus points seasons.

By the way, Craig, 80 points, 15 games left.

He has the chance to be the first Canadians player

since Nazlin, then 86 to have 100 points season.

He needs 20 points in his next 15 games.

Do you know how many points he's picked up in his last 15?

I don't, I know it's quite a bit.

21.

So, Craig Button, if Nick Suzuki in his next 15 games

produces the way he did in his last 15?

Yeah, he'll get 100.

He's gonna get 100.

Isn't that incredible?

It really is, it really is.

I mean, you think about what Nick has meant

to the Montreal Canadians and what he continues

to mean to the Montreal Canadians

and what a fantastic leader he is for the Montreal Canadians.

And it wasn't very long ago, Tony,

that we were having a discussion.

Do you think Nick Suzuki is the number one center

in the National High School?

I'm not saying you and me.

I never had any doubting either to you.

We were right now, but I'm saying the narrative around them.

Do you think that Nick Suzuki is the number one center?

Come on, Nick Suzuki is the number one center.

You know, what a lot of people do, Tony,

is they tell you what they don't know

by telling you what they think they know.

Go on, we're on the right side of history with Darwin.

Look, I took a look at Suzuki's,

and I understand that playing Junior Hockey

and putting up points does not equate

to a long-term success of the National Hockey League.

But, you know, whether it was Guelph

or whether it was Owen Sound,

whether it was regular season or whether it was playoffs,

he produced all the time, put up seasons close to 100 points,

put up 42 points in his last playoff run

on Root to a championship.

He's been progressive every year, 61 games in his first season,

61 in his second in less games,

and he goes from there,

and then he's got a couple of in the 60s, 70s, 80s.

And by the way, the durability and the longevity

and the playing through pain, he's never missed a game.

Ever, he's a fantastic player, Nick Suzuki, fantastic.

And he got to meet his parents and, you know,

wonderful family, and, you know,

and you think, you know, when I think about Nick too,

and he's not the player that catches your eye,

with this, with these bursts, with this flash and this dash.

But when you think about a player that, you know,

just plays the game with so much intelligence

and so much substance into your point with so much courage,

and courage, I'm not talking about courage

about blocking shots, I'm not talking about courage

and taking a hit.

I'm talking about courage and stepping up and saying,

you can lean on me.

You can look to me.

I'm gonna show you the way,

and he doesn't shy away from it,

and if there's a brighter spotlight in the National Hockey League,

I'd like to know where it is,

because I don't think it's any brighter than Montreal.

And I don't think the bright light can be any brighter

than on a captain of the Montreal Indians,

and night in, night out, shift in, shift out, Nick Suzuki is brilliant.

And you know what?

I want to praise the Canadian's former management team,

and the current one as well,

because I'll tell you this,

before Mark Bergerving left,

he said to me, he said, Tony,

Canadians fans are gonna be really happy with Nick Suzuki.

They found their number one sentiment.

He's gonna be their number one sentiment for a decade,

like he'll be their guy,

and sign them to a max contract,

and maybe hopefully he sticks around after that contract is over,

but that contract too,

7.8757 million,

that's a great deal for the Montreal Canadians.

Bergerving signed the heck of a contract on that one.

He was spot on by telling me that this guy

was gonna be their number one center

without a shadow of a doubt,

and credit to the Canadian's management team current

for saying, you know what, you're a captain.

Oh, he's the best captain for that team.

Well, again, like as a manager, as a scouting director,

as a coach, you're in the public's spotlight,

and people have opinions,

and people look at what you did well,

and they look at what you didn't do so well.

But as Ken Holland said,

when you're in the job as a manager for a lot of years,

you're gonna have some mistakes on the resume.

But let's not forget that Mark Bergerving

did some really good positive things

for the Montreal Canadians,

and we've just talked about a couple of them,

and significant players.

Nick Suzuki, the captain,

the manager when they drafted Cole Coffield,

and I'm not one to say the manager drafted the player.

What I am is to say the manager created an environment

where the scouts could go out and do their work.

And I think that Mark having scouted previously,

understood that.

He let Trevor Timmons go out and do the work.

Just like Kent Hughes, let's Nick Bolgroff

and go out and do the work.

You know, Ken Holland told me this,

when I became a manager, he told me,

he says, great, you're background scouting,

you'll have a little bit of a desire to get out there

and scouting because you can't do it anymore.

You gotta trust other people to do it.

And the good managers do that.

Any manager that thinks they can go watch a player

once or twice and tell you who they should be picking,

is making a huge, huge mistake

and overestimate in their own abilities.

Is that something?

All right, okay.

Speaking of Kent Hughes,

he had to sit down with your colleague,

Pierre LeBron, over at TSN,

and who wrote an article on the athletic.

And of course, Kent Hughes talked about a deal

that was almost concluded by the Canadians

on Trade Deadline Day, but didn't materialize.

And he brought it up and said,

you know what, we just weren't able to get it over the line.

And maybe it's something that we'll revisit in the summer.

He was asked who that player was and he said,

you know what, maybe in 10 years over a couple of beers,

but we can't talk about it right now.

And Pierre asked them, you know,

why did you actually tell the fan base

that you almost pulled off a trade

because now it's got everyone speculating and guessing

and here's a little screenshot of his article,

which by the way, I suggest that you all sign up

to the athletic if you haven't already.

It's a great publication and there's some great articles.

It was to communicate to our fan base.

Don't misinterpret the lack of results

as a lack of interest in doing anything

and just being completely focused on the future

and not the present.

It's on me for not being able to get something done.

Hughes said, at the end of the day,

it's a results oriented business,

but it wasn't for a lack of trying.

He also added that all the names that he's heard there thus far

that a people have speculated and Matthew Nies

or Ryan O'Reilly or whatever other names.

He says that people haven't nailed it yet.

They haven't got the name yet.

It's a mystery player.

Name hasn't come out yet.

So it's something that he hopes to try to revisit.

And again, like I would say to Kent,

there's a lot of things that when you say

it's a results oriented business,

yet it's a results oriented business on the ice.

But results sometimes are measured

and not doing something for the sake of doing something,

not doing something because you feel pressure to do something.

And so that's a positive result too.

And maybe you don't have something to announce

in terms of a trade or an acquisition

or something along those lines.

But Kent, he's not going to, again,

we talk about the spotlight of being in the Montreal

Canadian's market as a manager, you're under scrutiny.

And Kent's not going to shy away from it.

He's not going to, the bright lights are not going to face him.

They're not going to blind him.

But at the same time, and Kent's right, he knows.

And I know haven't been part of it.

Sometimes trades can be consummated a little bit quicker.

Sometimes they can't.

I know that there was, I remember it very clearly.

It was February, early February of 2002.

Peter LaQuare phoned me and he asked me about Derek Morris.

And I said, oh, that's interesting.

And Peter was, I loved Peter.

And Peter was taking the initiative.

And so we started talking.

And we started talking and we talked and we talked.

And we go to Benihana State House.

And I was always afraid of the knives.

I kept my hands away.

And you know, Peter was such a bold evolved.

And I love being with him.

And you can sit down and have a coffee with him.

You've got a glass of wine with him.

You've got a lunch with him.

And always working it.

But when the deal was able to get down,

it was September of that year.

It was a long time.

And it was a lot of discussions.

But Peter knew that I was willing to listen.

And I knew that Peter was willing to listen.

And sometimes it just takes circumstances.

More diligence to get to a point where you can make a deal.

And I think that one of the things that I feel in today's world,

and it's not about saying names, it's about saying, yeah,

what, today as a manager, I received 11 calls

from NHL teams about our players.

And you don't have to say who the players are.

But I think Kent was being this transparent

as he possibly could, taking responsibility

for trying to do his job and making sure

that everybody knows that he's working hard.

And I don't think he has to say that.

But some things I said happened a little bit quicker.

Some things take a little bit longer.

And some things you talked about never happened.

It doesn't mean you didn't have good solid conversations

about them.

Just means that sometimes you just couldn't get to a point

where you're comfortable.

Either side was comfortable to make a trade.

So I think that in Kent's view,

it's always about what makes sense for the team.

And sometimes doing nothing makes the most sense.

Based on what we've heard, I mean,

if we connect all the pieces and connect the dots

with all the little bits of information that we have,

it almost seems like they got cut up

in that significant trade that didn't materialize.

They just weren't able to get it over line.

And then after that, if they wanted to do something,

there was no more time.

I know that we'll only know the answer

to this question at the end of the season

and whether they get in or they don't.

And if they get in, how far they can go.

But that insurance policy at right D.

You think it'll come back to hurt them

because I felt, you know, I love Connor Murphy.

I was hoping that they would have been able to acquire him

before the Emmerton orders.

And even on draft day, I was looking for an insurance policy,

on trade deadline day, I was looking for an insurance policy,

a Trevor Ramsey Reamsdike or someone else.

They weren't able to get it over the line.

Lane Huts is playing right D right now

and he plays it really well.

But I wonder how much better the Canadians could be

with a Hudson at left D and a right-handed D.

You could probably play 15 plus minutes again.

And those things, those guys don't grow on trees either, by the way.

But were you a left disappointed that they weren't able to do

anything on trade deadline day,

even though they had a very active last eight or nine months

by acquiring Dobson, by acquiring Bulldog,

by acquiring TaxiA, by acquiring Denol.

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No, I don't, yes.

What we don't know Tony is, and teams have desires

and they have, you know, wants and areas

that they're trying to shore up and strengthen in the lineup.

And much all Canadians are not at verse to making a deal

that they've shown that and they've shown an ability

to do it in different ways.

And at the same time, I think that we don't know

what the costs were for them to acquire a player.

And, you know, without knowing that,

I think it's hard to criticize as any team

for not so-called making a trade.

And again, you, you, at times,

like, know what you're looking for.

You spend time trying to see what the cost of us getting it.

And then you sit back and you go, okay, maybe it doesn't make sense.

I'm going to quote Bob Ganey.

And he said, sometimes the worst thing is not getting the player.

Sometimes the worst thing is getting the player.

And that spoke to the cost.

What a contract might look like for your team.

Is he the fit?

Is he just doing that?

Like, I got nothing against Logan Stanley,

nothing against Luke Shen.

And I think that the Buffalo Sabers,

you know, went about their business to try to get stuff.

But you're talking Colton Paraco.

And it felt like the Buffalo Sabers felt like they had to go and do something.

Now, Buffalo's in a different space than Montreal.

And trying to send a message,

get a Stanley Cup winner and Luke Shen into their lineup,

into their room is a positive.

But to me, you look at Colton Paraco.

And I think me and you have talked about this.

And I'm not here to speculate on names or anything.

But that four years left on a contract.

Is he a player that's looking like would be open to a movie?

Is it a deal that can be made with the St. Louis Blues?

To me, that would be the ideal player.

And I don't know what the cost is to play with Lane Hudson.

Paraco.

That's for four years left on a contract.

Six foot six, physical, shoot the puck,

takes pressure off of Noah Dobson,

takes pressure off of Alexandria.

And now, and now, and now you got it all lined up.

And are there going to be other going to be players that have to move out?

Because that yeah, no question about it.

But to me, that's the player.

When I hear Kent talk about somebody that can help us now

and help us in the future, that's the type of player.

That's the type of player.

Yeah, I saw something from Arpen Basu that he put up on X earlier tonight

that contains the fence pairings.

We spoke about the defense just now.

Matheson played with Dobson yesterday.

Strueble played with Hudson, Hudson played on the right side.

And Gooley played Gooley.

It's been a little bit of a disappointing season for Gooley.

I think a lot of people expected him to take the next step.

He had an injury when he came back.

He was never really able to find his footing.

But last night was a very, very positive game and some stats prove it.

I got something from Arpen Basu.

And I got something else from Twitter as well.

And 1331 with Gooley and Kerry on the ice at five on five against the Bruins.

The cadets held a 20 to five advantage and shot attempts.

Eight to two in shots on Gooley.

Eight nothing in high danger scoring chances.

And they controlled 96.45 percent of the expected goals.

According to natural statric.

Gooley did get a handful of five on five minutes away from Carrier and finished with a team high 88.42 percent.

Expected goal share from that one perspective.

It was the best game of Gooleys career.

Do we have something else?

I don't know if the other one actually added a little bit more.

Attempts 25 unblocked attempt 17 to three shots.

Eight to two expected goals 1.40 to 0.05.

Chances 12 to one high danger chances eight nothing.

That was pretty cool.

Your thoughts on.

Matheson with dobson.

Strobel with Hudson on the right side.

Gooley with Carrier.

Because it looks like Gooleys chair.

He's best suited on a third pairing right now.

Well, and I think he's also best suited to playing the left side.

I really think that Caden playing on that side is more comfortable on that side.

You know, the movements for Caden playing on that side are more natural or more into his.

It goes pattern of thinking muscle memory and everything.

So I keep in mind that he came back from an injury.

So you're rehabbing an injury.

You're not getting those reps.

And now you're trying to get back to what you know.

And so I think being on the left side is what Caden knows and knows well.

And I think it's good.

And I think Carrier is a really good solid player in that spot.

And I think they can have really good interplay between the two.

And the other thing you got to keep in mind is you got them playing in that spot.

Who are they playing against?

So it becomes a little bit more manageable matchups.

And obviously the numbers very clearly tell you they took advantage of those matchups.

You don't have players scaled up a little bit too high or beyond maybe what their best capabilities are.

I love Mathis and Adops and together.

I understood what they were trying to do, splitting them up.

I love that pair together.

I think it's a top pair that works really well together.

And I think that whatever it is sometimes you look at a parent

and you might not draw it up.

And you might be always looking for ways to move it around and not stay committed to it.

But the James Strubel Lane Hudson parent has been a pretty good parent from my observations.

You know, Lane playing on the off side is so capable.

And because Lane plays a different type of game where he's maneuvering and moving around.

I think Jayden gives him a sense of reliability and stability and dependability.

And you know, Jayden is just, he can read off a lane.

And Lane knows that he has a little bit more of that freedom to go.

So I like that pair.

So I think ideally right now when I look at the way that the parents are set up, I like it this way.

Like would you love a right shot defenseman in there to play alongside Lane Hudson and put them to the left?

Yeah, you're always looking for the ideal.

But at the same time right now, this is what the Montreal Canadians have available to themselves.

And I like it.

Does David Rhinebacker end up coming into the mix at some point in time?

Maybe, maybe not.

But were they, well, how they've constructed their defense parents?

I like it.

And certainly the evidence from the game against Boston is positive.

OK, in ending.

And this has been, like always, a ton of fun at the GM meetings.

Gary Batman spoke so to build daily and company, as well as a couple of general managers.

One of the things that came up the playoff format.

Bill Garen has talked about it.

He's pretty unhappy with the current playoff format because he believes that too many good teams get eliminated in round one because of it.

It's hard to disagree with him to see Colorado going eliminated by Dallas last year was something.

I mean, that should have been the probably the Western conference final or could have been, but it wasn't.

Gary Benham was asked about the possibility of going back one versus a two versus seven three versus six and four versus five.

It appears he's not sold on it.

Craig, your thoughts about the current playoff format and whether you'd like to see them go back to one eight two seven three six four five.

OK, so.

The second question before we get to that point, I would like them if there if and Gary is committed to the current setup in the playoffs.

I would like them to take an intermediate step, which I will get to in a minute.

So I'm teasing everybody here, including you.

But at the same time, when I look at and this is kind of the contradict, I don't know if it's contradiction.

I don't think either side is wrong here.

You think about tournament play.

You never want your top seeds playing against each other in the first part of the tournament.

The NCAA basketball tournament is kicking off on Thursday.

The number two, the number two seed is not playing the three seed in the first round.

Then there's a pattern once playing 16, two is playing 15, three is playing 14 and on we go.

Because you want your best teams playing as the tournament goes on.

Call it the build, the crescendo building.

But Gary makes a really good point too.

And I think it's fair is that he says the first round of the national high league playoffs has as much drama and as much excitement with eight series going on as anybody could desire.

And I think he's right.

I think when we talk about tournament play, that's correct.

When he talked about the theory about tournament play, I think Gary's correct.

So I'm not going to sit here and say that it should automatically go up.

So here's my intermediate step.

Okay.

Which I think we see a lot of evidence of it going on right now.

Post trade deadline.

No team plays outside their conference.

Everybody plays inside their conference because, you know, you have teams moving that like, you know, add a hind and San Jose come and have to play in Montreal.

They're chasing spots in the West, you know, you got when it paid coming over to the east.

So I would say the let's go to an intermediate step.

They're going to 84 games.

So there's going to be four games in division two and two home and home.

Let's get to conference play post trade deadline for everybody.

You don't move on.

All conference play is done prior to the inter conference play.

I like that.

So that would be my intermediate step.

Gary's not wrong.

Yeah, I like that.

And we're not and we're not wrong.

And we're not wrong about the theory behind tournament play.

So that's my intermediate step.

Perfect.

I like that.

Something Gary obviously must like with two playing three.

And the chance of, you know, the two same team is probably squaring off three times in five years.

Four times in six or seven years.

It's good for rival reasons.

No doubt about it.

Why don't you do this in terms of good for rivalries two.

Why don't you try and make it so that a couple of these teams who do have rivalries like the Battle of New York teams, the Canadians and the Bruins, for example, the Battle of Alberta.

I would love it if they would play back to back Friday Sunday in the same hometown.

Get all the other fans from the other team come into your building.

All right.

The rival recovering over to the next night, all kinds of emotions building up.

Members of the media come in.

The interview the players on the Thursday getting ready for the game on Friday, Friday, pregame, Friday, post game, Saturday, pregame, Saturday, post game.

And then a couple of months later.

So if the Bruins come into Montreal for Friday, Saturday.

You don't have to worry about travel.

They don't have to go back and forth.

They rest in Montreal and the Friday.

Some of their fans come down.

They spend the weekend.

They make a weekend out of it.

The Canadians a couple of months later go to Boston.

They probably do the same thing.

I like to have your thoughts on that.

But I think it's just one way that you could probably get the rivalries going again.

Yeah.

I think that the ideas behind that type of format is a good one.

Again, the opportunity to have the fan bases that have a really strong passionate interest in their own teams.

And also a really strong passionate dislike for those opponents.

That's what makes the rivalry great, right?

And I think that those ideas and that type of a format are ones that should be discussed.

And see what the practicality of it is.

And not, you know, I'm a big believer, Tony.

Don't start with no too many people want to start with no.

Why don't we just open up our minds and say,

Hey, let's see how that would look.

I'd love for you to be a full-time collaborator seven days a week on the signal

morning afternoon and night.

Craig, don't start with no too many people do that.

Craig, too many people start with no.

Not me, not me.

And you're doing post games on the weekend now.

So I mean, hey, I guess I could be called in the weekend action.

Thank you, Craig.

But fantastic.

As always, enjoy the Canadians and the Detroit Red Wigs tomorrow night.

Another most important game of the year following the Canadians in the Bruins last night.

It's going to be fun down the stretch.

I'll talk to you soon, Craig.

It will be thanks, Tony.

Thank you.

Fantastic stuff as always.

So generous.

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For shame, go mo and master control.

By the way, for those wondering, Marty, San Luis happy with his team's mindset after disappointing weekend.

The Canadians practice the power play a lot this year.

Marty, San Luis showed a little bit of this pleasure with the power play.

Rally the troops in the first unit in.

They practice the second unit as well.

Brendan Gallagher talked about how special a night it was for him yesterday.

How the team is preparing for the Troy and galley on how the young players just want to win.

Where some of the things that came up earlier today.

At a team practice.

So there you have it.

Now you're up to date.

And we still don't know the starting goal.

Then there's going to be tomorrow night.

We'll find out tomorrow morning.

I'm sure.

Shaw for now.

And that's a wrap.

Hope you don't miss us too much until next time.

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