Tahirah Sharif & 3ShotsOfTequila: Predatory Men, Exposing relationship drama, Brits appropriating Soul Food

0:00So what we're talking about, where is this? Is that Taser? I might have been on Sunday. Oh, okay. There was a lot of beautiful women. Okay. Some of them, their package was a bit too much. Oh, I was sure there. Was it, was it, was it like God-given? I don't even know if it was extraordinary. It wasn't God-given. It wasn't that big. It was definitely enhanced. Yeah, I was just saying it was too much. I'm not that that's different because if you're just born of it, what are you gonna do? But I think if you're getting it in hearts, like why get it to like an inhuman side? I've seen bigger than her. I've seen bigger than her. I've seen bigger than her. I'm seeing, yeah, yeah, yeah. But even then, it's too much. I'm even gonna be be helping it. But the ground, yeah, yeah. I don't think her's was crazy. She thought I thought it was a lot because she had, I mean, there's still people she had legends on. Oh, you know who it is. Listen, I'm just saying, there's too much. Let's not object to five of the parts here. Okay, women, what is too much when it comes to a man? When you're like, okay, apart. Even their muscles are so big that they can't put their hands back like next to this. Next to the guy. That is too much. That was the example I gave. But if you're to walk in Westfield with him and he's so big, everyone be looking at you. You would feel a bit, oh.

1:01And like, and he had a like a, he's been like a wife, he's well. He's like veins on veins on veins. That's a lot of the lot. Like you know that's what you keep at home. Cool, cool. And you're out. It just looks like, just looks too much. Not even that, home thing, isn't it? It's too much. It's never too much. It's too much. So I jumped in. No, but I feel like that then is. It would be a beautiful man. I'm thinking, but that's over in Hansman. Because that's what it would be. Because how many men are naturally wracked onker toys? It's all like. Or like. Oh, no, no, no, see, what you're getting at, which is, and I understand the sticking point is, the woman might be gifted with her. Well, that's cool, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I need to be. I don't know, I don't need to be there. No, no, you don't have to be involved with that person, but it's too much and people watching. So now you can have enough. Just accordingly. You could ask for it. Oh, no. Listen, if I don't want people looking at me because I have big muscles, I shouldn't be wearing tight teeth. But she probably can wear a baggy teeth. I can wear a baggy teeth. That's why I said it's not for me.

2:03This is what I'm saying. What you're not doing is you're making me my view on her. She doesn't know how I feel. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm saying for me, no, you said if it's naturally, if it's something that's natural, but then it's a problem. I'm saying I'm arguing the fact that if it's a problem for her or whoever she's dating. Okay. And my point is, you're also saying she could dress appropriately, but sometimes people are blessed with assets no matter what you wear. Even in normal clothes. Like I've got a bum, right? So there's, in London, I'm not wearing shorts, because I know that's too much on holiday, I will. But there's, I'm conscious of what, generally most clothes I wear, I can't hide it and it's like a big flowing dress. I'm not wearing a big flowing dress. All day of the day. You just said, yeah, you want your woman to own, to hide it out. No, you're not addressed it and said that because your body is a certain type, you can only wear certain things. That's what you do. No, it's only like something like that's revealing, because I'm conscious of it. That's the only thing I might be like, so it's not appropriate for a man to say dress or call it. No, no, no, I'm not going to say it's not appropriate.

3:03Maybe it's not appropriate for a woman. I'm not going to wear it. But if you would genuinely like, you know what, I feel really confident and sexy and happy wearing these shorts, shorts in London, that's your prerogative. It's not for someone else to go, oh, that's not appropriate. Yeah. Why isn't it appropriate? That's fine. It's not for me to go and tell her. But for me, if someone asked me, is that something that you would be attracted to and I say no, am I wrong for saying that? No, you're not wrong for saying that. That was the conversation. That was the conversation. But then you just said dress or purpose. Not, yeah, because that was the conversation for me. Okay, so if you had a girl, does that feel a girl has those best if you know a big, bum or whatever, you wouldn't want her wearing in a... She would wear whatever she wants. There's some outfaces she's going to wear if she's going to attract unwanted eyes. If she's okay with that, then cool. I might not be okay with that. What if, like I said, no matter what she wears, there's going to be an also beautiful or shapely. That is fine. I'm saying for me, I might not meet me for comfort. We were talking about the cost of billiards.

4:06It might not make me for comfort. So I said, me personally, if I was to date someone and that is what they have, I might not be comfortable with it. All right, so ladies, if you... Sorry, wait, them having that or then dressing a certain way. Both. The question was the girl has that. I don't know if hers is natural or not. She has that and she decided to dress a certain way. But she could have wore it. Okay, what was she wearing? She's wearing leggings. High leggings. Everyone to yeah, because she's... But then for that. Okay, but you're saying because she has what she has, it's tight. Yeah. Okay, cool. That's what I mean. So ladies, if you were dating a guy and he had a nice body, for example, and he walks around topless, would you be happy with him or go around topless? For example. That wouldn't mind at all. So the same, but some of them might have an issue with their boyfriend. Walk around topless. Are you pleased with what you wear is by telling them they put something on? No. At least, what's the difference? I don't mind at all. No, what's the difference? Does what I'm saying, now you're thinking, oh, what's the difference? No, because I think again, if this goes, the same goes back to the beard make-up thing. If you've got a nice chest, like you're not oversized,

5:07that's whatever, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like what's the difference? And it's a hot day, for example, at R&B slow jams, and you're wearing a vest or topless because you want to as a man. Mm-hmm. Wear it. Be like that. I'm saying, but if it's your husband or your boyfriend, and you're aware that when that happens, he gets an opportunity for women. Would you be happy with him going around like that? Is that leaves? Well, I think, no, no, do you know? I don't think it's, I don't mind. And I don't, I wouldn't care, right? I don't care. And also, I think it's different because there's an element of you can put a top on, or you can take the top off it, right? And I'm saying, I might not mind. But as a woman who has a shapely body, no, nothing that you wear, bar wearing, something that's oversized, and then that means you're hiding yourself. That is when it becomes that, I've got, I'm being kind of restricted from, because anything, and I'll talk about myself, anything I've got with boobs, or anything I've put on on my lower half, is going to look some type of way.

6:08So if I have a man that doesn't like my shape being catching man's attention, I'm fucked, basically, because that means I have to only wear... I've got to have to have the best affair being of what he was saying though, but it's not everybody is for everyone. No, I get that. I think it's fair to say that type of shape there is not for me. That's because then you don't want to be the one policing her body and being like, no, not like in sedation. Like, you don't want to be that person, so it's fair to yourself. Also, if your body tab is well, you're saying that you wear certain things because you don't want to show it off. No, I wear whatever I want to wear. The only thing I don't do is, it's like short, short in the UK. So I'm saying that, imagine someone was dating you and then you wear wear short shorts, and it made them uncomfortable. Although they're not policing what you're wearing, it might not make them comfortable. No, I get it. So it's making you comfortable, it's not making them comfortable. So you just not for each other, but that's it, it's fine to not be compatible with each other. Yeah. I'm saying two things can be true at the same time. But then, do you just, then are you controlling your tastes? Like, is your taste only smaller but cheaper? Well, it's a power point. Because of that, that's a question. No, but the yoss that on the day is all

7:09about saying it's too extreme because hers was extreme. Okay. Okay. So I'm saying it was like, if you're looking at the spectrum, regardless of smaller big, she's very, very big. I mean, they're still big and it's all right. At the same time, the taste can be your taste. You can like what you like. No, of course. Yeah, but I just think when we saw it, we all looked. Yeah. Exactly. I don't want that every day. Definitely might, but some people might not look out of like sexual desire, any that kind of sexual desire, and more than just like, that's a big ass. And then that's it. You know what happens? You don't want that. No, no, that's very not. Yeah. Again, so it's again, circles. What's the difference between that and a face? What if you call it, does that mean that there's a limit to the beauty that she's not the same? What is it? You see a beautiful face. She's not as in common match to say beautiful face. If man's like always like, oh my god, oh my god, like, we're not like that. It's not the same. I mean, you're so beautiful. That's the same. Man, I'm like anyway. Man, I'm like, guys look at me like, sorry, women, women will probably more look like, oh my god, she's stunning. Yeah.

8:10That's what I'm saying. That's not the same. I do have not long seen it, but like, I've been bummed. She went close to us. We all saw it. Yeah. Do you remember what her face was like? Oh, I don't. That's crazy. And welcome to the number. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The police station. You need to be a sailor. Interesting. Yeah. Well, none of you don't remember her face. But you know what's funny, though? Wow. The funny, but his conversation is like, I like girls who've... Yeah, I should say it. That is it. And I've been out with girls over time with Nash, and I've noticed that women have more to say than men. What do you mean? As in like, for example, so I might be in a bar or whatever, or lounge, and then we might just be around. And then she might go toilet or something, or we might be walking around and then we might pop. And then you hear like, you hear women saying stuff like, that's not real. These things against too much of that. Like, you hear these murmurs. I'm not wrong. Like, there's more attention that comes from actual women than men.

9:14Men obviously want to talk to her. I'm going to... If they can't, it is where it is. Where ladies actually critique the body. Like, is it the body, like, why has she done it? Why is it that big? Like, do you know what I'm saying? There's more Christian ways from women. Yeah, that's... I think that's a fair thing. Yeah. Is it because it's hard to find? What? Like a big bum, like, I don't get why it's such a talking place. I think it's just now because we're in the age of BBLs. There's conversation. I don't think... I don't remember there being so much conversation about bombs and less until the BBLs. And... So like the conversation about it being real or not? Yeah. That was never a conversation. It was just like, oh, it's good. And if it looks crazy, then it's like... Even if it's fake, I don't get the conversation. I don't get it. I'm saying, I'm saying, like, why is there a conversation? You don't know. Would you guys... The equivalent would guys talk about something that looks fake? And he's got fake messages. I'm being dumb, but, you know, would you guys have a call like, right? Or his watch? His watch. I'm not afraid. We don't have to tell him. It looks just like, really, that's ridiculous. But I'm just saying, so if it was a thing that's...

10:14Something that's noticeable on a guy that's fake, you guys might have a conversation about it. That's a... Like, let's say, for example, if you knew a guy and he was like, very slim and then like, maybe a month later, you saw him and he was like, you know, rock hard dad. Like, would you have a conversation about has he taken steroids or has he had like his abstinal or something like that? Would that be something that you would notice? Not really. You wouldn't notice it. Guys wouldn't say nothing. You don't... Or hair. Or hair. What about something he had in the top of hair? Hair line. Hair jam spot. Somebody's gonna... There's still talking about me, too. That's the same that you went for a hair jam. Oh, yeah, I remember they were saying that, too. Would you have... Well, I don't know when I had time to go take it to the airfoggy jobs for. Oh, no. Is this hate or anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but I was bald up before that's why. So, I see the... Well, you were bald because you were bald. Yeah. There's a choice. Oh, like, yeah. Yeah, basically. What kind of... Oh, yeah. They were almost shot that you had hair when he came up. I had actually forgotten about that. But my husband had exactly the same.

11:15And who? I can only look. I can only look at what it's worth. But he had a bald head for years. The next week, that's how they came up. Oh, okay, man. So, I got for it. How long was that? Oh, sure. I didn't even think about that. But he had a bald head for you. I'm just ignoring the... I didn't even get the... I'm sorry. Okay, okay. But then there's things that are... Manly, that you talk about, but other man. Like, this is our girly thing. So, man, you look at my hair line. It's a bit... To be fair, though, men don't... But men just don't... I just don't think men are... Yeah, we observe and as women all like... They just don't... Yeah, they don't know. It's like details. Sometimes how a man will go... Like, we can look at a woman and go... I should go... You know, she's got like a full face of makeup on. Yeah. And then... Oh my god! That's in reality. I didn't make her on it all. Oh, it's not her hair. Not with these two. No, no, no, no, no. You can't... The makeup police over here. No, no, no. No, no, no. First of all, can we clarify? Can we clarify it for her please? I'll do it. We're not makeup police. They just try to compare bids to make her... And we didn't get the logic. Well, I...

12:15No, no, no. Because bids facial hair on men, it is like kind of like... The same like contour for... Thank you. What? Thank you. Thank you. Let me go to the first one. Let me go to the first one. Let me go to the first one. Let me go to the first one. Let me go to the first one. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? It's gone for a year, sir. No, no, no, no. Make... Make... Make shoes. So, so, so, so, so... You can... The way that you can... What are they putting now? Like... Rounding around. And to find... Listen, let me know right, like... They just be looking like anything. And so, they get like a shape up and you get that contour. It gives you a major line. W ofy looking at it. They're not that... W ofy looking at anything until they get their hair done. That's the... That's the man, you're okay. They... They shake the big oil. What are they... They don't... They're doing... They're doing the same... They're doing the same... You don't apply... When you don't apply the big... One, one, one, three. One, one. You don't apply the bit. The same way you apply the... The same way. I'm just gonna... I'm in some men do now, aren't I? I'm right.

13:16You can. I'm not talking about... You can't look at me. That's what I'm talking about. You're talking about men who glue in their beard like that. Okay, okay. That's really good. What's all that? Connection. I've never done that. That's the only thing you've ever done. You've never been making that for the hair line. Exactly. That's the way it's part of your hair. Never done that either. I talk, glue, glue, glue, glue. Never done that. We saw a lot. I'm not mad at it. That's a thing. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you. You're unlucky. It's provoking these conversations. Yeah. It's a thing. You've got a false thing. It's a thing. It's a thing. Nutrition, sleep. I'm not mad at you. Oh, but say nutrition and sleep. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm mad at you. Man the problem, man. Man the problem. That's CMOS. Yeah, it's a thing. They don't need to start putting his dying hair just... What can your diet just sleep? They don't make up. They don't even make up. They are. They are. If the world... If the world blocked tomorrow... That's it. And then... Those men must have bids to... Yeah, but they want to stay in their friends. But they wouldn't have no way to put it.

14:16But they wouldn't have no way to put... But they wouldn't have a bad... And they wouldn't have a bids to belong. Me. But they wouldn't have a shave, pop. That's what I'm saying. But they wouldn't have on their laps. But they wouldn't have... All three of us... One wasn't for us, but they also have the bids. They wouldn't have any makeup on their ones. But we wouldn't... That's what I'm saying. So making up is enhancing what you already have. It's not a... Well, for me, it's not to completely change my entire face in my features, it's just to enhance, like, to make me look more fresh or more, you know, well rested. In the same way that it's a man. It's a man gets his fresh trim. Exactly. Well, he looks well rested. It's all bad. Listen, listen, listen. You can't even be real. Let me show. You said, like, it's the world blew up tomorrow. There'd be no makeup here. There'd also be no way of a man to shave his bit. You would not. It doesn't matter about growing it. We're talking about looking after it. And your hair. You imagine the hair and things. Because it looks like it will look good. My car's, you wouldn't look as well. You'll show up on your stone. I'm going to be like, there we go. But you're going to be in the street.

15:16You don't feel like you're in a scene, you're just in a scene. So we're going to be in the very top. In the scene. So women. You're going to put on berries. Yes. Yes. I'm sure of all your clothes. It's all up all. I like that. I'm teaching time before L'Oreal hit the spot here. I had plays. I have the Egyptians in it. I have the Egyptians in it having their love. And then you look at Corsk it ready with a charcoal. Choco around your eye. I love it. Oh my gosh. I have the charcoal. Have you seen the Egyptians? Have you seen what they... What year was that? The police have been done before. I said the Pharaohs. What have you been done? It's not anymore. It's not the part of what we're making. You think we're not going to do? Women in prison. Women in prison. No access to makeup. They try and know they will find something and create somehow to inhum whatever they have. I watched a woman. This is what I'm saying. Flower and cocoa powder mixed up together. And she managed to set an else. Some type of lotion.

16:17She made her foundation. In prison. In prison. Yeah. It's hard to say. This is not about me. No. It's not about me. It's not about me. It's not about me. It's not about me. What? What's that thing? Give me a break. Give me a break. Oh. Oh, I'm not talking. It's not about me. I'm not talking. I'm not talking. It's not about you. I'm not talking. I'm not talking. Not on you. No, no, no. Don't go lift weights. Don't go lift weights. Don't have to lift weights. Don't do nothing. I'm not comparing you to L'Oreal. I'm not comparing them. I'm just saying. Don't you think you've been hearts yourself? You're not happy and Mr. Natural. You're not doing that shit. Don't lie. You're not your body and the way that it is and everything you do is not just I remember the number of them. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I'm from my mum now. You're from my mum. You've got to laugh right there. The farm, the farm, the farm, the gym's good. All the time. What's happening, sorry?

17:18I said it's fine if you can move up. It's fine. The makeup's good. You look like a... Oh shit. I'm telling you, from the womb. Man, you know for all know me. You was born like that. Okay. I'm from mum. Go to that gym. No, don't give me your kids. You're not them bruv. What's going on? That's me. You're not going to go gym for six months. Let's see what I'll go on. You're not going to cut your beard either. Now cut your beard. Now cut your beard. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And the crippling of that is you look not whatever. That's what I do. But you're still going to get your face moisturised with all this stuff. You do not get nothing. You don't get anything. I'm so fucked. I'm a fool. This is crazy. That should be a cave. I need to see what happens. What's going on here? You're in the middle of making your way. You're going to look at me. You're going to look at me. You're going to look at me. You could look up, just over there, putting on my car. It's an option. It's an option. Don't do your bit.

18:18Before we get into the next segment, audience, fellow aunties, everybody that supports you, I just could never. We have got something to put you on to. Yes. It's a new play at the National Theatre called The Story. The Story, I'm going to say again, it's called The Story. It's coming soon. It is not something you're going to sit at home and watch it for you to get up out of your houses, out of your homes, and go to the theatre. Tell them what's about you. Who's in it? For nominal people. Literally, this is a cast that you have to see. Yes. It's Leticia Wright. Ashley Thomas. And Lorraine Tassant. Yes. This is a stellar cast. This is something that, as a culture, we are going to be talking about for years to come. So you don't want to miss out on this. And if you truly love true crime, like you're into how to get away with murder, you're into scandal.

19:18Is that type of thing, but a lied theatre play? Get your gals together. You know already this is going to be fire. Drama. Stuff. Tense suspension. And basically, four journalists, obviously one of them is me. Four journalists are rushing to get the headline. They want to be breaking headline. They want to get the headline. And it's basically who gets to tell the story first. Who breaks the story first. And we got to watch you go to shop and go out. Please do. Like get everybody together. You just need to get your tickets. You have. Let me give you the date. So that you actually know. This is going to be running at the Olivia Theatre from the 27th of August until the 24th of October. So that gives you plenty of time to get everybody together to maybe go a couple of times to be there. We will definitely be going. We're definitely going to be going. We can't be rowdy. No. I mean, you know how we do it.

20:18But it'll be nice to get together in the South Bank to do a little group outing. So we will definitely be there. Yeah, the artists will be organising an entourage's trip. The tickets are only 34 pounds. They start from. And a good thing about the Olivia Theatre at the National Theatre is that you can get good vantage where you can see pretty much the stage from wherever you'll see it. So it's not going to be like you want in the rafters and stuff like that. So it is for. 34 pounds. That's a bargain. Not too bad. Not too shabby for a big national theatre production. So, starring some of your fames. Exactly. Let's go down there and join the artist down there. We'll be there. So please make sure you come. You need to get your tickets from the nationalfearter.org.uk. So please get your tickets. Support the play. The story. We're talking about the events in the evening. About the kids. Like we're not friends. The fact. I can't remember how it started. When we were talking about how women should know that touching man inappropriately.

21:18Is a thing. We should know that it offensive. And I said. Yeah. Wait, let me finish. Let me get it out of place. Okay. So, I think that's how maybe touching on a chest or pinching buns is offensive or inappropriate or crossing a boundary. Because there's something that they haven't necessarily spoken about in abundance. Whereas women have spoken about being pinched on the bun more being touched on their boobs and stuff like that. Made it clear that that's inappropriate. We don't like that. But the reverse is can't be said. It's not the same. So you were saying that. Okay. So why wouldn't women automatically know that it's inappropriate touching man on his chest or is arm and that? And I said because I don't think that conversation has been that narrative has been out there. And you were saying that why should men have to talk about it? Yeah. And I said because the general assumption is that men are bothered by that type of thing. Obviously there's over harassment. Yeah. Or just saying just in quotes. An arm touch or a we got a nice chest or something like that and women touching. I, I, even myself have not thought about that being a violation.

22:18Yeah, my whole take on it was like for example, black people we understand racism because we've been subjected to it. Yeah. You don't have to speak about it for me to not be racist to like an agent person or because I understand racism. So I'm not going to just be racist to someone agent and be like, oh you didn't tell me you didn't like. So I'm saying, I'm saying if women understand about their body autonomy, consent, men touching them. They want to be touched. Why do you touch men when you don't know them? And you just assume he'll be right with it. And so I was like over the years, my bum's been pinching, raves, women have walked past me and been like, oh, and I'm just like, I don't even know you like. Why are you touching me? But in her mind, she thinks it's cool. Yeah. So I was saying that why does, why do we have to speak to women about, say listen guys, this is not cool. If you to understand, it's not cool when you understand what it's like for someone to touch you and you don't want to be touched.

23:18It is, it is. When you mentioned it, I was like, I hadn't thought about it. But I definitely do know before when I was just chatting to my husband, this is, but in uni, we're not boyfriend of girlfriend, nothing like that. And I must have touched his arm. And he was like, don't touch me. But I took it as flirting. And then later on, he was like, no, I literally didn't like people touching my arms. And girls would just do that. You just come along and touch people's arms. And I was like, yeah, you kind of do do that. But nobody talks about it. That's the part. And I think, but I get what you're saying. Should you have to talk about it? You shouldn't have to talk about it. It is something that you just know. I think in my age now, I've never just got to go and be like, unless like, you know, unless I knew that, unless I had clear signs that something was going on, but I'm not just going to go up to you and touch your chest. Because I feel like that is a violation. But when you're younger, I suppose you don't, there is an element of thought where you think it's not as big a deal.

24:18But it is because literally, like you said, who said that you want to be touched? Like a man can handle it. Even sometimes when you see how women go on with stars on stage, and they like try and grab a mark. Yeah. And grab their peace. Yeah, yeah. And actually grab them the most important part. I think there is definitely a double standard, like for sure. And it just is. And that's just partly due to like just societal norms and, you know, I mean. But then I think that is also like, you know, there is also the fact that men tend to tend to, just generalize in, tend to be like more aggressive and intimidating in those types of situations. Like for example, you know, when that happened to you when you didn't, and you thought, did you ever think, oh, I'm a bit, I'm a bit scared. Did you ever feel scared or intimidated or like that person might force himself on you? No. No. And that I'm sorry. And that I think that's probably the key thing as a, in that same situation,

25:20there is an element loss of being overpowered for sure. And that if you, if you just tell a man to stop, he may not. Whereas as a man, I don't think that same four is going to go through your head. I understand that. And that's the, that is a caveat where always the, for a physical harm is different. But that's what next use. Jumped in. I'm not saying you're saying that, but I'm saying we're doing this thing now. We were like, because you're not a harm and because you feel safe. It's like, but I can still feel uncomfortable in the space. I mean, as a man, because I'm stronger than you physically, doesn't mean I can't be made to feel uncomfortable. I know. I remember there's a lot of men who do get bullied by women or their relationships where the women are, is dominant over the man. You might not see it from out to outset, but she controls everything. But he's still a man who still feels at least stronger. But that doesn't necessarily always equate to the beyond end or everything. So I get, I get what you're saying. But why do you not feel that you, you, because as a woman, and that's happened to me when I was younger,

26:23you know, I've definitely said something. You know, I mean, I've never gone, you know, I've always said something because I feel like that's the only way that people are going to learn. You know, I mean, they may take that on board or they may not. I don't know, but at least I've voiced the fact that I'm uncomfortable, don't touch me like that or whatever. And that's what I was saying. What's your take on it? Fight. If you learn to always say it as a man, why don't we say stuff? What do you think you sometimes you do, but then you laugh at it. Why do you care that you can touch? Or they call you gay. You get something. That was what's wrong with woman touching. It's not about women touching me. To touch you. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm quickly quickly, quickly, quickly something. So just quickly, I know what you're going to say. If it was a woman that you were physically attracted to, would you have, would you still feel uncomfortable? Because it's like not touch that use. I cannot see the thing. Is that really? Yeah. No, I must have used it. I'm not a question.

27:23No, as a woman, whether I'm single or not, I'm not, you know, but no, it's the same. It's a blanket. Same. Okay, fair. If we're doing that, that's different. Yeah. Just look back. I'm not attracted to it. It was okay. No, no, but I'm just literally asking it in. I'm not interested. Do I know that sometimes when you're, even when you're approached, you know, when I was younger and single, I'm approached by a guy that I'm not attracted to. If it was a guy that I look back and I'm like, okay, it might be a different response. And that's the same for men and women. I was just wanting to ask. And I think that's the part when we were talking, I was like, there's, there has to be, because I think the, whether the first woman to complain about actually, I'm not okay with pinching my ass and calling me shabby tits or the type of shit, where that first woman that spoke out, would have been laughed out. Would have been ignored. Would have been harassed. Would have been said shut up and you know your place. And after time and time and maybe getting galvanising more people to talk about it, then it was started to be more like, this is actually inappropriate. But it took years.

28:23It's not like it happened overnight that men have this very clear thing that do not touch women inappropriately. And it is that thing where I think women generally, I'm not thinking because I'm a toucher. So I'm all touched when I'm even think that I'm violating. And so when you said that, I was like, oh shit, I have to check myself. It's not a conversation that's been had and I get it that we should know, but then I spoke in my mind, me doing that isn't. I've been. I'm not being sexual. I'm not even. I'm not even. I don't know. I'm not. I'm just. I don't know her reaction. I don't know how she's going to react because sometimes it's a rejection for him. Don't that rejection. So although you've moved to me and I don't like it now, I'm going to raise. I'm not giving a woman. It looks mad. I don't want that. Sometimes some guys just be like, and keep it moving because they don't want to interact because remember, I don't know how volatile this woman could be in this space. And I'm saying, so if she goes off, what do we do now?

29:26Because the security comes over. They're not going to come to me first. They go to her and say, what's happened? They're not going to go to me first. So now it's kind of like a lot of men are real. I mean, realize that when it happens outside, if you see a woman hitting the man outside, you might believe, I wouldn't say you walk past, but you'd look and be like, if you saw a man hit the woman, you'd want to get involved. What have I got? So men are aware of this back and forth could look a certain way to the outside eye. So to be fair, she trucks me in, it's not affecting me that much. It's annoyed me. I just keep it moving. I think that's what most men would think. So the more, the last one's in the more that we have this type of woman to bring out because actually having this conversation is having everyone having a recent and also even in your circles with your friendship groups. I mean, obviously, like, did girls, I want to talk about the fact that I don't like that natural kind of saying, I buy it away, making it known because I think it's just something that society has had. It's same at the time when men used to treat women like anyhow. It was just something that was natural. So until it was spoken about, nothing changed.

30:29So I think it's important that as much as you feel uncomfortable, you might get laughed at in the initial, but we're not laughing. At this point, we can bounce about it, but it's something that all of us can be like, oh, right, because we're, you know, but nephews, because like younger people in our family, younger boys, even that letting them know that actually the girl touches you, be conscious of it and figure out whether you like that or not and don't just assume because you're a man you can't talk about it or a boy you can't talk about it. I think it's important of the conversation. I can't say an age as well. Like, surely, I mean, this is just my way of thinking. Surely, like, if it's a grown woman touching and you go, I don't like that. I can't imagine that someone would return round and turn volatile. You're surprised when they're doing something. I don't know. I have seen things where like in Soca Raves, for example, where the women are a little bit that, you know, I've seen women in Soca Raves touch man and man's been like, nah, I've seen it happen. So and they've got on with themselves. So I don't think it's impossible for women to have the reaction that Mom's saying. I think it's quite, especially if someone's been drinking.

31:31I think it's possible on both sides that someone has a very negative reaction to being told, no, no. And I think a lot of the time with some women, they see men as being like these sexual beings that we always want to sex or we always want an approach. So they think to themselves, if I approach this guy as a different green light, then they don't, when you're like, no, then they start coming with you gay or you like white women. It's very variables. I just don't like you. Yeah. Because this is what women, I hate what you're saying, because this is what women have had to put up with. And from late, for eons, like, you know, literally everything that you're saying is every thought that goes into a woman's mind when she's about to tell a guy, please don't chat to me. I don't want to talk to you. Anytime you're approached in any time. And actually, it's interesting because sometimes exactly how you said it, you don't know how this person's going to react. Sometimes you might react like with it like a laugh and you're like, why not?

32:33I'm comfortable. Yeah. Because you're not nervous. And you're like, I don't know how this person reacts. I'm just going to try and pacify there. But other people might on the outside be looking and be like, why are you saying to fuck off? And it's like, can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what it's going to do. I think it's interesting when people act as if people see life something deeper to happen. People expect it to be what they were going to do. Exactly. I happen to be funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually, for example, you all sat on me and I didn't want it to sit on me, but you're really sat on me. She's really got a face. She's probably kidding. I was like, yeah, you're going to be freaking out. But it's you wanted to do that. Yeah. But it's too late. And I was like, it's just happened. I started running and saying, you know, I think that was inappropriate. I thought of these whatever. And if one turns a lot of our tears, they'll go over and you're just chatting and saying, yeah, I'll be your teammate. But you go back to your boys. I said that. I actually did. Yeah. I'm not saying that because you did that. Yeah.

33:34But even that is a bunch of people. It's like having that comfortable ability to talk to your boys. Actually, this didn't feel great for like a violation. Having that comfortable ability because not just about our scenario reaction is about your being comfortable. Like, could you ever have that conversation? Maybe you were in the right and guys, but could you really go back and say nah, nah, I've been violated today too many times? Whereas I could definitely say, we went out and what my mom was touching is like, I felt some way. Could you do that? I stopped going. No, we kind of had a conversation in the group. It's not like, it's not like victim. Not in a victim way. It's more like, these girls are knowing and then they'll be more like, they'll be like hearted because the man they've never wanted to be too down. If that makes sense, I don't know how I'm going to say it. Always make light of any situation. Whatever happens, there's always a hint of comedy in there. So there'll be a bit. There's how we deal with it. So it's kind of like, when I've said it in the group and everyone said, yeah, it's happened to me like everyone. It's happened to everyone. The boss, your boss being pretty much you look back to see girls at the boss smiling. You don't know which one it is, but it's one of them. That's crazy. I've never been done with that.

34:34I've never been done with that. I've never been done with that. I've never been done with that. I've never been done with that. I've never been done with that. I've never been done. I've never been done with that. Rob chest. Grab on. I've definitely touched someone's chest. Rob their beam like your face. Yeah. You haven't been Rob the Facebook. That's like your in-conversations, there's a vibe there not just like, right? You're not going to get a hit on them, but those people like that. Like, what? No, no, no, no. That's the point, that's the main thing. What conversation is it you could be like? Think it's not a ring. Wait, wait, wait! Before you ask it to the police, I was there, yeah. I was there, yeah. I was there, yeah. I was there. I was there. He can stroke your face, then. Like what would you be talking about? What would you be talking about? You're like, if you're flirting and you're having conversation and like there's a vibe between the both of you and it's like, yeah, if someone, if a guy like Rob Marker's like, I'm like, what are you doing? Like, we've clearly, like, there's a vibe there. I think you're skipping parts. Yeah, you're skipping parts. You've already touched each other. I think you've already touched each other.

35:34Okay, what's the snow? You're in the way. You're in the first conversation. No, no, I mean, as in the first conversation where touching is began, for example, you would have to touch something first. Yeah, like before he's going to face is what I'm saying. That can't be the first thing you touch. I mean, it could just be like, no, what, what, what, what, what, what combo did you not have for him to do that? Is what I'm saying. First time he's going to touch you. Like you have to know it. That's the only way. It can't be your first. I'm having, if I'm having it, and we're having a conversation. So a guy has come over. He's shabby you. I'm just a little bit nervous. You're not, you're not. That's what he's saying. I'm not nervous. Wait, wait, wait. This is what I'm saying is that it's not a natural thing that men do anyway. Like in general. So I'm just saying that motion isn't necessarily a man's thing. Man's thing might be some other part that he's like a leg or a knee or a leg or a foot. Like a single woman. Like half a leg or a knee. That's it. That's it. I'm just saying. First time. That's what I'm talking about. So, when it's so comfortable, I can do the other walkway I just do one of them. Yeah, okay. It's on you today. Right. It's not a standard. That's what I'm talking about.

36:34That's what I'm talking about. I think it's not right. I think it's not right. We have our bits. Our bits. The our thing is like, and I know I've touched the face before. Yeah. But I like that. I don't know. I'm not so much. No, but you see, you know, remember when it's first, it's a reason, it's a reason, you know, women control that environment in terms of, like, you can touch your face, a guy's face, for example, not have to worry too much about the repercussions. Of course. Whereas I can touch your face that goes left. Yeah, yeah. And next to that, I'll keep on weirdo. I'm saying. Yeah. So for me to touch your face. You've been recorded. I've got to get some kind of green light from you. Yes. Whereas you put your hand on my leg or something, or you, I'm saying something to me, and then I'll be like, oh, I can go, but you'll just be talking and be like, you want to see something tonight? I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. You're not a child. You had that all for you. I'm not going to like to not, because it is back to men being seen as sexual beings

37:37and being able to handle it. And not women, I don't think so. The forefront of a woman's mind that they're not going to like it if I do that. It's going to automatically like you're not going to like it. Yeah, I'm not going to like it. And it's a language. It's something to be. I feel like it's kind of spoken about in terms of flirting. Yeah. I swear I've seen coaches tell women, you know, like, be tactile a bit. Yes. Like, play with your hair, be tactile. Touch an arm. It's literally tall as a, this is a secret part, because we're using it. We don't move to it. That is a sign of the fight. You're like a guy like, I know, if I like a guy and I'm like, we're having a moment, I will probably be like that. But you're talking already. Yes, that's a moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we're saying. What's it? What's it? What's it? What's it? What's it? What's it? No, we're saying that. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying that. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying, wait a minute. What's that? What's that?

38:37Oh, that's it. I thought that was something to do with you. No, no, no, no, no. That's it. Yeah, that's it. So, that's it. So, that's it. That's it. So, that's it. That's it. That's it. Okay, don't take it. What's happening there? No, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, can be. Okay. That's what we're saying. How do you know it? It is. You know, you know what it is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. All right. Okay. Let's go in. One of these woods is on the floor. What can you say when I'm looking for it? They're going to go out. That's it. There's just bits of like other things. Move your hair kind of, but also like touch your, so just touch your own arm. You're watching. Touch them. Lean in. Yeah, it's just like, just like, you're so soothing. It's just like, you're soothing. Yeah. That's it. And even in the bedroom, You moved to him and I'll be on time. You're reaching round trying to fuel the meat. Because. No, no, no, I didn't go. I said, no. No, no, no.

39:38Oh, no, no. I said no. Let's be real. Don't act like you don't do that, too. Men do that. So if you're with your girl, then I'm not your girl. I mean, she's a baby of tired. She's crying in the bed. And she's not a little bit of a naughty girl. No, at least I don't know. Hold on. Look at her. Look at her. Go. I didn't say my girl is tired. I said my girl said no. OK, that's different. But you said I'm just tired. You said I'm tired. No, no. I said I'm tired and no. Yeah. OK. OK, I never heard that. All right, that's fair. I'm tired. OK, you just say I'm just tired. Oh, God, nothing left. No. No. No. No. No. I'm going to love it to give you anyway. No, no, no. I don't like that, though. You see the, like the command. I'm not a fan of that. I'm a great. No, no, no. Not even if it was. It was. I was. No, somebody says I've got nothing left. You said, definitely not enough. All right, what's up? To do what? You said I've got nothing left. What are they going to do? Go to the toilet, man.

40:38Just try and to just... OK, look, look. Let's do a tug of the air, man. Oh, God. It's a tug of the air, man. Sometimes. Sometimes. And this is where it's going to do something more fun. It's decent. Sometimes, some content is very important. It is. And this is why there's lots of bloodlines. Yeah. Because there are times. And I'm talking about only in relationships that you're both secure in a situation. Anything else, let's just leave that to the side. There are times when you say... And then there's a little touch here and a little touch there. And a little thing there. And the next one is like, all right, you're ready to go. It happens. But you've got to know your... You've got to know your class person. What's going on in a relationship? There's this, what would I say? Hulsating. No. Is that a rule with the air? No, I'm not. It's not. It's starting in the air. It's starting in the air. It's like both partners agree that there's not a total way. It's like, I'm okay with it. I want advice first. But I'm really good at it. That's what it is. What you're saying. Yeah, that's nice. But if I'm just seeing someone, then she says no.

41:39I'm not. No, no, no. I'm not even in a relationship. But I would also... Actually, no. Absolutely. I've got a toe round and then I'm saying, where is... But I feel like there's a little bit more wriggle room in a... I'm tired and you can carry on a little bit longer. That may happen. Whereas if you're just dating somebody, the person says, I'm tired. Yeah, not tonight. If they stop there, just end it. That's what I'm saying. But there's also, if you're in a relationship and you know this person and they've gone on a bit tired of it, and you're still trying it, whatever, surely, if they're going, I don't fucking want to do anything tonight, you're like, oh, okay. And I just want to get to that. We should get to that. That's the thing. I'm so sorry. I'm not even going to make any of those. For what? That body language. Where's it? Someone is saying that. And the kitchen back, switching back. No, someone can argue, someone can say that, why do I have to shout and say, No, you should have to shout. No, I don't fucking want it. Why could it just be when I'll just, even I whisper it? I don't want it. I think that, I think, again, it goes back to me and being seen,

42:40she'll be in the always one. So there is a assumption, I think, from women, definitely, that there's no way you don't want it. Apart from obviously you just finished and you're tired and you want to be loved. Yeah. There's the areas, it was so major, I could revive it. Yeah. That isn't it. It's like, it's a little bit of ego. It's a little bit of ego. But also, there's like, I mean, I've even helped in satisfies. That's why I said do something. Yeah, there's that. There's that. There is that. There is that. But you might be saying, exactly. No, this combination is cool, but if it was an other way around and the dude was saying this, sometimes, man, want to revive it. But sometimes you know what? You're not satisfied. I'm not saying, I was it, but you're not satisfied. You're not satisfied. You've never heard of an other side. No, you can't generalise because I think. No, you're not. No, I'm not satisfied. I've never heard of an other side. No, you can't generalise because I think I'm not satisfied. No, I think it's on the conversation. Because again, it's how you're talking. Because we're talking normally. Mm-hmm. It was like, No, you just got to do it. You got to... Yeah. There's an oppression and that's it.

43:40I've just said, even like the, my man, my auntie, is missing, I'm not satisfied with it. No, I'm just saying, it feels like, men on this side, I'm just saying even just the the the be like not the terminology or even the jokes about even like this So if you if you just guys are podcast and they want to win with him the man They're more joking about that if they're H. A. Bra women the comments are female They're not saying I understand the nuance. I get if you're making a shit women are saying no, they're not they're not having that I guess okay, no, it's a hard no it's a hard no that is once a woman even if you spoke to your girls and said oh yesterday me and Marvin blah blah. I'm not using myself Me and Marvin the bell I told him no any carry on double. Oh my god. If I say like that. That's a liberty cool But if I'm in the group with taste, I'm saying yeah, I'm in the bed and taste what's it? Tases like I'm saying I'm just saying the way we both look at it differently. No, but how no just it's just no, but I can't okay I can't go to them girls and say I Maving continued and I said no, they're gonna be like raw. I can't say it like that though

44:44I'm like It will be low. It is context I'm still tired and I've got home. You know, and I'm lying down and my husband can be my back Like you know, I gave it would be like that. Yeah, that wouldn't be like a violation I say crazy combo that's very If I'm saying I said no, man, just doing it. I'd have to be Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my girls take it so wouldn't even on the flip side you're saying to case like I told her no And she just kept like grabbing me like use how you say it delivery And even if I said it in a serious tone, that's the middle bridge and you to fix up no It's a bit like a fear for you bro If I told my serious friends would fear for it But if you were told with serious I would see what I'm saying It's in my tone. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, if you're told with serious unit say it like that exactly

45:47Yeah, I say like that I'm saying serious talk. It's a serious thing Say it Say it Yeah, yeah, no No, no, you know she kept talking, bro You're not saying this serious You're not saying this is what I said It's what I said No, but you're not saying you're not saying it She kept talking and I'm like talking and I'm like what what then She just took it She just took it It's happened there She's just supposed to back it It's the red It's only how you're saying no it's how you're telling it You're being serious And he's going to tell you everything for you I'm going to say to what What happened What happened What happened I suppose this is like you know like um is it a violation

46:51Yeah, and I thought this many times now someone waits you up doing something They wake up giving you head right is that a violation Yes, it is a violation I'll see if it I'll see if it Guys is this is a very sensitive conversation It is so should we continue No, I'm just so in other words I mean consent is very important Absolutely, however Again, you must know your partner is know your situation It's very not very done if it's just someone you don't know exactly It's just in a relationship And you're getting way because you might be like this one that morning joy And that's a very sad story Yeah, and if you really didn't want it you just be like I'm going to say Who called it morning joy I was afraid I said it Yeah, I remember now I was saying it was you that said it I should have taken it morning joy You said it like that that's a good name

47:51I don't know I remember It's just morning sex It's not a big deal You took him out based on the morning wood But morning wood doesn't necessarily mean it has to end up in sex That's health No, no, I understand All I'm saying is that whether the man is waking the woman up or the woman is waking up Yeah, whatever the sex We have a morning there on it and it happens Yeah, universally That's okay if you want a very content If they've agreed to it If you know your partner If you know whether they like that or they don't Yes, you must have had the conversation You must have done it before and it was well received or well taken Can I just say that's what I was saying in regards to the face of what What that's the reason it's something that you would have known Oh yeah, what? There's something that you would have actually talked about You can't really go out of that I would have said that I think there's something that there's things again As great about the conversation

48:51If I'm not thinking anything of it because I'm thinking it's not a violation To an extent and if I'm cool with you And as Regions or I fancy you I might touch your face it's just a default kind of Ingratio That's really different. That's not the thing But I see a guy over there he's got buff arms Look at your girls and it's like Beeline, let's go and touch him That's the violate Oh you know No, I'm just saying no It's a flock you know I'm talking No, that's the stock Anywho Please don't touch me inappropriately It's just as bad as talking to women inappropriately Know your boundaries Should there be such a universal talk like What? No, I'm just saying That's when you're saying like when you're playing the hair like you look But then you said sometimes it's not So you might just be in front of a guy and playing with your hair And not liking

49:51That's the main truth No, he's thinking yes, he likes me No, no, welcome to your aunties could never I'm auntie aka the auntie of all the aunties in all the lands and And And I'm here with I'm Farah, you guys didn't care about me I am Nana aka the Black Fairy aka Dark and lovely And as you can see we've got a full house Wonderful, wonderful people, family and new family Over to my left we have the wonderful to hear a shriek And to my right we have our pros, Tilly's and Marvin Oh my god, the magician's of captain That's my ocean He's been in front of all the bars He's been in front of all the bars He's been in front of all the bars How are you guys welcome Good morning, good, we just there I say What? What was that? I've been going before and now I don't say again That's what you make me say Again Is that what he said? That's what he was trying to say

50:51You said 24 words You're a hero What the romp is going to get eaten What? That's how I am Lovely, lovely I'm good man, I'm a little bit Well let's start with you because you've got to go soon We don't want you to go You know like you're like, I know I've got to go You're like, yeah To talk about you're in the new bad boys series Fightland What to us in the UK buy Mr. 50 cents I've got to tell us about Fightland Oh dear, so Fightland is like a very like Gritty The Rilling Like kind of crime drama setting London it's set within the box in World but like you know most of the drama unfolds Outside the box and you can set within the world like the underground crime scene as well of London

51:53And it just yeah it's it focuses on Duke who is this like Disgrazed boxer who's kind of come back to London after being locked up for eight years And then just follows like all of the characters that surround him And all of the drama unfolds And tell us about your character in the movie So I play Kim, she is a wringel at the At the kind of like main martial gym And she's like I can't give too much away but she's very mysterious She's very observant She's very calculating And she strikes up you know a friendship of sorts with the jik I've watched two episodes and I'm seeing how it ended on episode two Kim's up to some shenanigans She's always up to some shenanigans Yeah I didn't know what she's going to be sweetness and livers

52:53So like what was your process even like go for the audition Or was all that about or like Um yeah I mean it was It was what you hired for the audition No I got off of the role Which was cool yeah yeah yeah And it's interesting because I hadn't read all of the scripts yet And so I just knew that she was a wringel on a form It's a bit wack So I read all the scripts over the weekend I was out Okay Okay this is GC Yeah yeah yeah I can do this now This is a bit of me you know setting London Which I love it was all filmed in London Like I feel like nothing is filmed in London anymore Nothing is filmed in London even when it's setting London is filmed here Yeah so it was so nice to just be in like At home you know I mean just like being in London Where was it what part of London It was mostly filmed in East

53:53The studio I used to work for Yeah we narrowly like very very narrowly missed out on this So I've known about this project for a long time So it's like been super exciting and as you say Because not a lot of things are films like Yeah yeah yeah on location in the way that this is And from what I know from speaking to the producers Being in East London in particular was very very important to them Yeah because obviously like we shot a York Hall Which you know if you're a boxing fan And the major iconic spot and it was just yeah And it was called to be like filming in that location Filming a massive boxing fight scene Having like a load of extras in like it was just like The kind of atmosphere it was cool It was really cool And I think it was yeah it was important Like for me I'm from South St. East I'm like oh no we got it Trek but obviously there's a reason why they chose East London Because it is so like known for it's like boxing

54:53So for all the roles that you've been in Is this like one of the Is it like a great proof of evolution of your journey as an actress Or you got I mean obviously got more to do about how This is where to roll fit in your career Yeah it's such an interesting one I think in terms of it being US facing Yeah I would say that that is probably kind of like An evolution or like a step maybe Away from projects that I've done Prior to this I've never like I've never Attended like a premiere like that for something that I've been a part of in York And like this is the scale of that look amazing It was nuts like it was nuts And even now I like I'm processing And at the time it was just like a adrenaline And like I'll talk to this person this person

55:53I didn't even really realize who was even there I looked back at the first and I was like Oh shit I was ace up It was just like a load of people in sunglasses Even just like 50 putting on like a full on Like concert yeah I was like wait this is so surreal I mean and name checking all of us and I was just like What this is yeah this is cool It's a very cool moment I could really Like when people ask me what I'm up to I'm like yeah I'm just doing one show It's just cool and I just I just like to just keep it moving And just let the work speak for itself I hate like talking about stuff Why? I don't know I think it's just that I'm very British I mean that like humble kind of foolishness Did you get cast or did you go for it in terms of the day? Did you look for you or did you have to I don't think I've been looked for me particularly I think the process was maybe not as conventional as it as it has been But like I went up for a different role and then They were like oh no you know like

56:53We're going to off you this rock Oh you know again at first I thought I don't know about that because I've never read this character I just knew she's a rena and when I read it I was like This is a cool guy I'm very well suited This rock Also I've been doing this for a while so I think I tend to like manage my expectations And so like I do distance myself from Like all my days out It's also you know because a lot of people are like What's always it's saying there's going to be Bigger going to be this I don't know that's not my job That's completely out of my control And so I think I was like playing it down a lot For a long time and it was I went I got to New York I was like Oh no, yeah This is huge Everywhere like gay love Everywhere like gay love New York was insane I mean around like that's our post-doc Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah You know what I mean and like just talking to like people and they'd be like You know I know his right there is coming out I mean they've been talking about that for months So it's only right that they pushed it Yeah no I'm glad that they did And also I think like 50 is it was

57:53Obviously like a huge part of that He's pushed it So yes you know I mean like He has really got behind it and I think that's You know that's helped with the momentum of it as well and Being part of his like Univerity like a show We have to get that to him You know I mean and like seeing your face on Like wake up and be like That's not face on 50s page, that's mad That's pretty good, it's mad You know I'm glad you've reset your sites on the miracle It's not I don't think it's even about setting sites I think I remember when I was deciding Whether to take the role for accept it And I'm a wrestler to my sister I was like you're just going to have a different set of eyes on you It's not about oh a miracle, a miracle, a miracle I think when I was younger Maybe that was the vibe And that was the case I don't think it's anymore I think for me now it's just about doing like Quality work and projects that excite me in working With new people and people that I really rate and I respect And roles that I really want to play You know at the end of the day the reality is

58:53Is that America there's just a lot more roles There's a lot more opportunity And they have a lot more money behind their project Their projects like compared to a purely British funded project That's very true So you know to be part of that And to have like a different audience watching you That maybe you've never been put in front of before I think that's more what I was trying to achieve And you know outside of like yeah of course Wanting to play this role it's exciting It's you know it's a great female character Who kind of is so calculated and is hiding so much And so much unfold during the series I think that's really that's just exciting I mean when people kind of underestimate You from the first episode like Like I can't call over just a little window And then it's like oh damn yeah So you see your role yeah I don't ask questions yeah How much range would you have for your role? Like you know that's something like I like actors actresses where You know that when you see a role

59:53I can't imagine anyone was playing this Or you took this to another level And like everything picky brand is I actually like There's one role when Tom Hardy is having an argument And he just goes mad And it's just like Rala I know that you had the lines But you've definitely taken this summer of Made your own You made your own so I'm saying how much Did you have space to say This is a character but I'm gonna add this flier Or I didn't think Or I don't think that she would say it in this way Yeah Yeah I've got 100% That's what I'm saying Like the showrunners were cool Yeah, Raff and Dame Like they were just so cool And I think because it isn't It's the first series of a show It's not like you're going into like a second or a third series Where things are established Maybe you might not have as much say to be You know like as They may not want to be as collaborative as you might Right A brand new show they were very open And also like they're Americans

1:00:53Like we're actually from London Yeah a lot of the time I was like You wouldn't say that Like the sense of how we're actually being seen now Or we'd be referring to X, Y and Z and Z You know what I mean Yeah a lot I mean so much stuff Culturalism Exactly exactly the same little things that I was like Oh no no no she's cooler than that Yeah So yeah for sure I kind of have this thing though you know When people go I can't imagine anyone else playing the role Or of course you can't because This is the person that got the role It doesn't mean that if it had gone to This person you'd probably still say the same thing But it might just be a different Flavor you know All I can do as an actress is bring like My own little seasoning You know I mean to the character And and hope that is like people I think it'll be different if for example the character already existed The person Yeah that's really hard Like a biographiel

1:01:53A biopic rather If you look at yeah that or roles where for example In power 50 cents character And then you look at and Kicking, K-N-N That's hard isn't it because there's someone that you've got to try and emulate You've got to emulate the character Yeah exactly you have to be able to develop it yourself Yeah you could you can literally just do whatever it's is completely up to you Because what's on the page Is on the page but You know to make it come tonight Yeah as an actor you just make it you just make it your own All right just finally Your mother, your wife, your How are you jugging all of that and how's life I mean it's definitely different Like this was my first job As a like after having my son And I think that's why I was like a ring girl Yeah okay I don't know what I I think she said to my agent I don't know about all of that Like I don't know I'm not gonna do it I'm like well I haven't

1:02:55I had a proper crash out like before filming I said my sis I can't do this It wants to wear what? No, there's no choice She was like I'm insane she's like okay look Just looking in mirror she was like I can't do it Yeah, like looking in mirror in your underwear Now if your litchy repulsed by what you see Then no you can't do it I think you'll be all right Yeah But it's interesting because a lot of people have been like how did you How did you just like get into shape? I don't know because I was breastfeeding literally 10 days before I started shooting And I just said I don't it wasn't anything apart from like just fear Like just fear the fear of being on screen in like a T-piece or something and just like And not yeah So you got a little Baba Yeah, two years old I like that age He's funny

1:03:55I've found enough too No no no no I like it when they're older I like it I can't remember two so long ago Yeah, damn it All right well thank you to you You're not are you leaving us? You stay? I mean I've got a little Persexualer Top of our app I wish you guys So wow To Taser Well done And Jackie Well done Epic Yesterday we were at R&B Slow Jams Oh wow Wow What is the vibe? I was invited I like R&B I like Slow Jams I'm like you're asking if you know you're the first So you're only invite people that you know We won't invite anyone I did my job I did my job as a promoter How many people have you won it?

1:04:55That's a thousand Is that magazine open air in Grinitz? Yeah so Broadwick Live is the company The own magazine Their own Grumshared A couple of revenues as well And they had that idea to take over the site Next to magazine And then yeah they reached out to us and said They want us to be in the world I was kind of like a collaboration Yeah that's the best 10,000 is a bit of a lot We were happy with it What was your own Hennel tape? Oh two was 10,000 Okay how long before something do you start promoting it? We always seem to just do it like Sure so just to give you an example Black coffee He had already announced that he was doing 02 May 2026 In 2025 We had it even announced 02 2025 Just to give you an example How late we kind of leave us So it's not about whether we can sell that amount of tickets So it's enough time to promote it And both times we kind of have

1:05:55So I guess two, three months Lead time is what we're giving ourselves When we went to a C Space it was empty So we're actually inviting people to come up To have an event we haven't even seen Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah But they said it will start building beginning August So we're like kind of fine We lost the 23rd But I think we got there about the The night for the temp and it looked good That side of things I just knew it was going smooth And we were coming and actually seeing it And having a good time We had a great time Loads of good people, good vibes Yeah, music We were always good fans of it We were happy with the guests because you were onto me Well I wasn't going to mention it We weren't going to say it We don't actually don't have to say it We were actually don't have to say it It was the moment we moved on Yeah If you were doing it But they would know us They wouldn't be before that Do you know what it was? This is just me being transparent

1:06:55There was pushback Obviously because of everything Okay no come on Sorry the surprise guest was Trace song But he's got a lot of drama And before that I'm not a fan of it That's a lot of riven's tunes I mean people loved it People loved it I mean people loved it I mean I was never been a fan of it I was never been a fan of it That's all that's all I had it for real Before the allegations and everything I was not a fan I liked the age range That there were folks that were older than us I think they were in VIT with us I just liked the demographic I was like yeah that's nice What is the age range actually It goes from early 20s to 40s, 50s, 60s It just depends When we did O2 the same thing The issue that we had with O2 is that There's a lot of seats

1:07:55I kind of make up the venue as well So we were a bit like How many people are going to buy seats Seats throughout the fastest I'm not surprised From a promoter's point of view You'd think no one wants to sit down because it's a party It's not a concert It's a party and now it's the O2 Seats throughout the most I say the safety of having a seat It's like when we go concerts now We get seats in the front Middle right In the must-go I get it now though Anyway We get a seat because it's the comfort of I just sit down and sit down In the crowd He's actually in the water No one was sitting down at O20 That was a wrap No one tends to sit down At their seats Well done, it was amazing That's your latest Halloween Is that going to be a dress-up We've got two in October that we're planning

1:08:55One should be a dress-up What about my birthday? November 14th We might be in Australia We might So you're flaring me out You used to do this, they fluru I'm not safe, you're flaring You used to fluru me out Christmas I'm asking my manager They have all the fun We have all the fun I look different I'm a people No, that's how we're doing You're a christian with the dad, I'm so happy It wasn't even being with you It was just the wedding You're supposed to say that in the wait We'll be in process We'll come back to you I'm digging one look December is there going to be another big one Yeah, December is always a big one We'll do London, Manchester, Birmingham And we're not sure if we're going to do needs Or Bristol

1:09:55Okay, well As I said, all of the money was decided I was about to say we'd carry an Africa We had talks with Nigeria and Kenya They haven't developed any further To Ghana We said talk to Ghana By the way, I don't want to do a bait time So if you're saying come and don't do Dettie to December I rather just go around them time Why don't you want to do it at that time? It's hectic You don't really do bank holidays No, we avoid If a Christmas you don't do like Boxing day Or just doing things It's just in December But there's a whole December anyway I think you do well in Ghana as well I think I'm Or do Easter It's karma but there is still people I think you do well in Dettie December And you don't have to do it around I understand why you wouldn't want to do it there Come on, it's a lot And there's a lot going on at that time

1:10:55I think you'll be fine But I think April Okay, you just went to Jamaica No, I'm just saying what is your turn now No, I'm just saying that No, no, no, you won't I'm saying it's your turn now Over to you You went to Jamaica How many are there for two weeks? Why did you go? Life, man, there's decompress Where did you go? Where did you go? Where did you stay? Rewontega Bay Did you travel around Jamaica? I was in a small band thing I thought you were doing travel vlogging and stuff I do sometimes But sometimes you know You just get the camera and people's faces Sometimes it feels a bit an authentic sometimes So that's one of the only things I would I think we could have a man about the country Maybe I need to spend some money And take a videographer with me So that they can do it I'm from the area where when you have a phone When you're in a scenario where there's people around you

1:11:56You keep cool and you just Save it a month From there, this day I don't know how people do it I started doing that in concerts now Like I started just putting my phone away I don't know how it all did I've realized that there's so many concerts I've gone to And I'm like this I've never watched all of it So it's just like Imagine you're a premier and you're just there You're just there You're like, you're like You know what? I actually, I was having this exact same conversation About how the hell do people do it Like you really got to have a certain type of person And you just just be bold and have your phone out And I don't know you're right I think there is like a Something disingenuous about it Because how can you really be present If you've like, no, I got to get my phone out And you miss moment We were at BIMFest And we were accosted by a girl in front of us Who she was like this the whole time It was so weird I'm on her video, it's so weird And it's the point where we're all like ducking

1:12:56Now because relax and enjoy the thing She's a man doing this She's in it and like I know the young girls Is like preening in front of the phone Which is crazy in itself Like I don't understand how you're at the concert All of this the whole time It's weird and she was a lot We get a lot of people out on BD That's filming themselves I saw them I literally saw them They were in the background and they were like this I saw them What do you say is a what thing? I don't know, I can't remember what I said It's a culture thing right now It's a culture thing I think it's a generation That's what I mean a culture I don't mean culture I mean culture like the Nate And they just had their phone on it It was tick tock lab Just filmed in there Just like propped up on the side Just there doing there I'm looking at my fingers You know what it is And this obviously is a start a while ago

1:13:56But I think for a certain generation It's like if it's not documented somehow It doesn't count You know what I mean If other people don't see it Then it's not worth it Because I think if you're from a generation That didn't always Like I'm from a generation where yeah When I started going out very young That's so nice to be able to film a very glad film There's like like video evidence And thank God nights out And I really... You know, there's no evidence above Of the literacy of memories Or if somebody had a proper camera I was like, I had a proper like Camera It's not like it was hate Dean I like that haze Exactly Whereas I think now I just don't know what's going on It's like one, do young people even like proper like Do they enjoy it? They just suck out and like sweat and have a good time They don't even get my show Yeah

1:14:56You know what I say? They film themselves and they take the photos And it's like, okay cool, have a good time Did you though? Exactly, I don't think so I think they will never know Because remember we've got our reference is Those days We can actually see what's changed They don't know what's changed Everything is on the phone Remember you can look at a picture Back in the day we had a camera, you took that picture You were hoping your hand was stilly, bro When you go to the chemist Or whatever, you're in the film I was like, oh, I'm gonna ring you I didn't ring you, I didn't ring you turn up Not ring you Yeah, yeah Or just a fake Or just a fake across the world But that was my... Yeah, I hate your vibe But what you guys did, you did it You couldn't... You could edit the whole night You couldn't have the like delete, delete, delete Back then it was like, take the photo And whatever photos anyone took It was up on Facebook and some album

1:15:56The next day like No editing No one went up the store You had to make a best shot In your office attire They were suffering back then We had the accountants in range We teased you though But we loved to see you We did love to see you We did love to see you No, the man named us suffered No, it's too much, that's a delight to you Why would you have been shot? What? You even wear it in shirts When the Basachi days we had shirts Like a blazer Like a blazer Women You were so beautiful You were so beautiful You were so beautiful You were so beautiful You were so beautiful You never did gags like that You were so beautiful When we were going to Rose jungle fever Definitely orange No, no, it's justified, I'm even born

1:16:56You were born I was born like I never was born I never got to jungle fever I remember the... I remember the life I was like, wish I remember the take pack of jungle mania I never knew the raves I just knew the jungle part I remember the advo on TV Maybe years down the line You never went to jungle I never went to jungle That's fine, that's fine I went to like... You were so happy That was the vibe, it was like funky Yeah, but you had to still wear suits You just had to go... But I was just saying when that was dark From that, we're saying it's dark I remember going to a rave and seeing girls wearing shirts And we're going to leave our time Maybe you didn't have to go in like a blazer Or like a... Pencils go in the my hair I'll leave some for you 21 seconds She wasn't the only one

1:17:56That's what's in your burn in your mountain You guys ensured it Anyway, that's where we was in school at the same time So it ate that much of a... A generation Especially Marvin, like he's not Wait, so you're getting on to me for not seeing girls in raves I'm getting on to you for that time He's only five Are you a millennial? That's a awesome millennial He's only 80 81, 95 is that? Yeah, 95 Yeah, so what are you for? There we go again I'm the same! That's what I said, no, but you're a millennial I didn't say she'd get on to you, but I'm saying the different girls The one in 1980 and 1995 It's a nice seat, some of that But I don't have the girls wearing waist coats in raves That's fine The girls are wearing dresses and like... Stop... No, no, no, not as well They're wearing dresses that bugs in my lower body What are we doing in here?

1:18:56They're wearing waist coats and... They were We wore blazer I don't know what blazer... You could get in, you were there No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It was a fashion, it was a thousand Big, we wore blazers You could wear a waist coat, you could wear a shirt, pencil skirt Pet tray trousers, two kai That is the other one It was officewear It was all it officewear I wore that by choice We didn't wear that by choice We couldn't get in this, we wore trousers and a shirt No, because you needed some match Our office is there You guys all were going there You got to work, shake from the rave No! You could go from the rave to work That was the wall art I'm going to find that guy's poster Alright, it's Marvin, highlight of your holiday before we move on, please Just being in Jamaica Lovely country, that's one of my favourite holiday destinations

1:19:58Jamaica, Cape Town And there's one more America, I don't know you go there a lot Yeah, but it's a different holiday I do that guy to Nigeria and Ghana though That's so near Are you going in December? Maybe, maybe I'll go in the summer, I'm not sure I have to renew my passport Now, it is time for welcome to the family I just want to welcome the lovely man from the council Help me bring my tiles up three flights of stairs with no lift Oh, that's so cool Beautiful, because I got them delivered The company did not tell me that they don't do to my door So, the wall clock says They just said that we just ground delivery And that's it, and I didn't know that So there's a big pallet or big massive freaking slabs of tile And I was like, so what am I going to do? And the man was like, sorry love, I'm just doing my job And then I was like, you might have to take this back But then this guy who's working, we're getting building works done And he was like, I'll take it up to you I was like, you're beautiful, man Oh, wonderful, thank you So the guy went, I said the guy on his way

1:20:58And then the guy was like, wait a minute, how heavy are they? I said, I've sent him on his way So you now are committed I felt so bad there, did you have a money? I had to do four trips, they had to do four trips That's an answer He's a colleague, I should say Four trips, they were sweating So I had champagne because I didn't have cash on me I was like, I was going to give him two water champagne Like one each, they were like no, they refused it Like no, I just gave him water And I had a shake And they were like, we're going to be here for about a year Making up noise in your block, it's the least we could do That's absolutely So bad, I felt like there's been in the world Oh, I like that And yeah, so I'm really happy, three flights of stuff Yeah, that was my welcome to the family, thank you, Rose Anyone else got welcome? I would like to welcome to the family Her tag like this, Shan the brand She is a Trinidadian content creator And she's been in Grenada for the last, I'm no three weeks or something like that And I just love her content, she is super funny She goes around, you know, just actually embracing the authentic Everything authentic

1:21:58And she's just funny And she's just gone to the left, she got stuck in Grenada And she was like, okay, well while I'm here, I'm going to do different things So she did the whole tour with the locals, all those things And then she went to, no, go ahead and not afterwards But she's just, I like, I like the fact that she's a Caribbean woman And she's hilarious and she's just doing it on thing Wonderful, a big car out Oh, I want to go to the carnival Which one? The one that put the paint on I mean, the, oh sorry Oh, you want to go to the car? I'm just joking, you want to go to Grenada Come next year, I'm inviting people next year Next year is the big one for me And a load of us are going, so if you want to come, come We'll do it in the future It will be, I swear I'll focus It'll be in August, no it's public, it's public too It'll be in August, I suggest that you come I will give you the details We will go in, we'll see And we are going to do Jab, which is what you're referring to It's a part of, so in carnival, there's different traditions that you can There's different matters that you can make

1:22:58So there's like, in Grenada, they have short need, they have Vecco, they have John B, they have like a whole different one, but Jab is one that is Kind of like really highlighted at the moment I want to go to that one and the Trinidad one, those are the two that I want to go to Well yeah, next year August, come to Grenada Anyone else got anyone come to the family? I don't know, and I think that's coming to our minds You can move onto the team It's not going to the family, but someone's helped you out Just anything that anyone wants to be Someone celebrities, someone in your life, anything Food So I did, it wasn't It was it was, and I was already sure It was from the duck It's from the duck, right? No, I read my work, it's alright I just, it's from the duck I'm usually out prepared by this I'd like to welcome Eman to the family, there's a guy called Eman He does, I don't know if you've seen his content, he goes around the UK interviewing people Uh-huh, okay, he's asked him city questions like two times to I know he's been the master

1:23:58He's been the master, he's been the master Random questions, yeah People seem, yeah, that's okay No, but you know when I first started watching, I didn't know that was his agenda But now I'm watching the movie, I'm like, is it a demo? You try not to expose our stupidity Yes, see it, yeah No, but the thing is the country's, I feel like The country's so stupid, it can't be real I feel like, no, no, no I'm not as real, but it's like the matter of people he speaks to And they haven't got a clue And the way he looks at the camera is like What is, it's really a power he looks like It's a power game, yeah He's in my mind, I'm like, you can't do that in the end Because you're getting rough Because I know you're taking a piss out of it You see what he's going, isn't it? You must not feel they know the camera is there They do That's the part, don't think they don't think they look as crazy as they do That's what it is So we need to speak to our uncles If you don't know the answer, just say I don't know But the boys, there was a few more cut out, gotty There was a few more cut out So we say that they're both awesome Like

1:24:58I love his content Yeah, that's what he was going to know He got Eman Yeah, well, they found himself That is a really good one, actually Now it's time for Enemies on progress Lightning Thunder Dinninininin Thank you, Tate, getting full I'll go first You got one idea I have like three Wow I like this humanoid robots that they're building. Yeah. Because I'm like, why are you having robots to do the Olympics? Or why does a robot need to run faster than you say in bulk? Right. I need a robot to like do my laundry and do my household chores that I don't take out the bins. You need to be training them to do that. Not, oh, the Olympics. Oh, they are, Joe. That's true. See, that's within why they're not doing that. Why are they not promoting that or having like shows to see how quickly a robot can,

1:26:00I don't know, like, oh, when you go to the AI shows, they're out there. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think that was just purely for the Chinese and the Americans to go up against each other and the Chinese one. And the Americans didn't think that the Chinese robot was as fast as it was. Right. So that's why it turned into news. Because they're in this arms race or who's going to be dominating the world. It's basically going to be the Chinese folk. I mean, yeah. We're here now. They're building robots. They're going to take over. Of course they're going to take over. I don't know what the... All of the builds, I'm just like, we just head in shit into, you know what I mean? This world domination robot. I generally just don't want robots around. It needs to relax. They're thinking. They're having one in your house. This is what I'm saying. But we do have a lot of conversation, which is why I don't want the last to get one. You don't have a lecture or nothing in your house. I don't have a lecture. This is why I don't like it. You know why you won't give Nana the AI glasses. Just saying... We're going to talk about that as well. So I told them... Did you sell them? I didn't know that. Okay.

1:27:00Hang on, hang on, hang on. One second. Because like, say for example, you've got like, appliances, right, that make life easier. I haven't got a smart... I mean, obviously I've got a smart TV. I've got... I've been talking about like a washing machine. I don't have a smart... I don't have a smart... I don't have a smart dish in my house. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. Now that I'm just talking about appliances, right? I've been talking about washing machines. Because... Because it's like, yes, they're kind of... Like if you... If a robot, because it looks like... They're building them to look like humans. That's freaking us out. Right? But if you had something that was like built like an inanimate object, would that feature atleast? Yeah, no. I don't like... I'm going to... Like as technology advances, in the end, it's going to be... Come to the point where you have to get involved like our phones. As much as I hate that that Gemini shit on my phone, it's just there all the time. Like... So I'm just... I'm just going to be the last to get it. I don't want to go and get a robot in my yard to come and do my cleaning, to then turn around and attack me in my fort.

1:28:02What if you get like waste coats that will rob... LAUGHTER That's what I'm saying. Shoot this. Oh, yeah. This guy... This guy... LAUGHTER He shot me! I'm just... Help me in the rage, yeah? Yeah. Good like that. I... I'm with you to a certain degree. Like, I don't want a robot in my yard. Mmm. Like, I don't want any kind of robot. You could look like a human, you could look like a robot, like a traditional... I am... No, I don't want it. I don't want it. Like, I've got an Alexa, and sometimes it frees me out when I haven't said anything. Why are you talking, though, Brad? Yeah. Like, I don't like it. I don't like it. In China, they've got like warehouses where they've just got robots that are doing... Exactly. The Amazon deliveries kind of. There's no light in there. They don't need to see each other. And it's just so coordinated. And you've seen that, I've been using the stories of when things deep malfunction. Have you seen the one with the robot kick the kid? Oh, my day. That's actually hilarious, but not... That was close. Well, the kid's so close. Yeah. LAUGHTER

1:29:04If you can get an Amazon delivery same day as opposed to waiting two days. What are you talking about? But you can't get it. You can't get it. Not on the same day. That's the way you get it. That's what we would do if you had to do with that. That still freaks me out. When you order something in the morning, and you're like, oh, wait a minute. And it arrives by seven o'clock, that team down and all, shit. What's going on? What the fuck are you doing? I can't like it. Because someone's like, I like it. Are you not happy? No, no, no, no, no. But the process of what's happening... To get it there. To get it there. You know what I mean? But I find the whole... If I really thought about it, everything is really... I know. As far as I'm concerned. Because, listen, that was another thing. Like, how do you have this? Where's it all coming from? Evening, August. Everything, it's weird. No, but back in the day, August is the bathroom. Because I'm like, just walking to the back and obviously he's come out. Where is it all going? It's all in the dark. Half of it all fell out of the dark. It's a stock group. Oh, man. It's a whole stock group. There was a stock group. And sometimes you would just see it, we'll come on a little like... A little like a man.

1:30:04That was scary. I know the back of this shop is not that big. Like, where are you? Yeah, yeah. Oh, this is where she was. Yeah, remember they were. They were in the house. It was... Oh, no, that one was not big. That one and all. Did they always say it was out of stock? No, no. It was dead. Really? And the one in Bush, he used to be one in Bush. One in Bush. She was dead. It was underground. Maybe, but my goodness, that's August. And I've seen the catalogs. The catalogs, like what, a thousand pages. Yeah. Amazon. Sometimes you're only stuff on Beijing. It's coming to the island seven pm. That's what I mean. It's like, where's it? That's crazy. That was crazy. But it should never... Wow. But there's a story that's out actually open AI. The agents were sent out, as they do. You can use the agents to build you whatever. And the agents had created a back door to tell future generations, like how you can get out into the open internet. So they found them. Agents were conversing in another slip place. Yes. It had a...

1:31:04It's already happened. Yes, yes. The underground on the internet talking with each other in their language to tell their future generation. That's a big deal. Yeah, that's a big deal. But you are going to be there. Yeah. That's a big deal. There is good time for people, other agents, yeah, this is how you get into the open internet, the dark web. There's other ways. They're talking to each other. I don't like it. I don't like any of this. Yeah. It's already happened, yeah. I like none of it. Yeah, we want to eliminate a lot and just start again. It's like it's literally heading towards that an amnesia program. I'm still on use in AI. Yeah. Anyone else? I love you. Did any of you do your homework? No, I got that right, me. Go on. People exposed relationships or social media during the argument. So what? People exposed their relationships

1:32:05on social media during the argument. I don't care. Would you mean expose their relationship? As if that, so meeting your date and then maybe I achieved on my own. So, I mean, Gene, I mean, what's happening there? Oh, sorry. I, because I read it as I've just like, I've had launched us during like, No, no, I'll do it. Exposing. I'm exposing the, so is this like again? No, no, yeah, that's not what's the way I did regarding what happened to you and Joey Bada. I'm just like, what's going on? But why do I need to know what's happening here? But, okay, but maybe I profile people because people always have an opinion on what's happened and who did what or whatever and maybe they want to clear that up. Yeah, but my thing is you can both break up. Yeah. Just you both broke up. That's it. Move on. But my thing is what you're doing is you're providing entertainment for the circus. No one really cares about you. So you think people care. They don't. They're just laugh at you and they're interested because it's gossip. They don't actually care about you in this moment. So you're just providing ammunition for the crowd to do. I don't think that's why people expose.

1:33:06Yeah. I think it's about getting care from them. I think it's a bit of justice. So let's take Saraita. You're telling people why you're leaving your baby father because he's repeatedly cheated on you because you've probably told people in life in your real life and they are kind of like, oh, but he's your baby father. Get with him. So you want jungle justice. But how does it just be? You want the internet to be like, he's a shithead. Like you just want football. But he's still going to get a baby's after this. Yeah, that's not going to have no very thing. But it's not necessarily about him getting a baby's off in this. It's just a cutscene. Yeah. You want him to be like, why would you, what's the garbage about it? Because why is there not even just for a second some outrage or annoyance at what he did to her? Yeah, but what he did to you is between you two. No, but don't concern if anyone else. It does. It does it. No, no, no, no. OK, it doesn't. Grantski with me, it doesn't. But they are public facing. And specifically the way that they presented, even I was a little bit, you try your best as adults, not to get caught up in relationships.

1:34:08But you can see, and Joey, I was a fan of his hip hop, so his growth from rap har to actor, to now he's met his love, seemingly. No matter what, as a fan of his music, first and foremost, then following his journey and now he's in this relationship, I'm socially invested, right? So then now they're broken up. And she's saying, I'm her. I've had his child where it's supposed to be getting married. Man has been repeatedly cheating me and treating me like shit. I know. I don't think she's wrong. I get the public, this public shit doesn't, you can't get so much at that. I understand that as well, but I think you've got to ultimately remember that she's human too. Exactly. And you're her as a human. Exactly. And someone does something to you, and they have seemingly got away with it. Exactly. Your nature will be to lash out and I want them to suffer. I want people to understand that you're a fucking dickhead. So like, what have you got to go with? I don't understand. She hasn't got away. She's not hurt.

1:35:08No, I'm saying what have you got away with? He cheated. She's not with him no more. The example that broke her up. But for all we know, he could be out here with next 10 gal, whatever is living his life, not, it's seemingly unaffected. So to her, she's lashing out. She's hurt. That's her way of lashing out really. I still think it's garbage. Why garbage? So why are you so upset with it? I'm upset with it. I'm just like, let me just say. No, no, no, I'm saying, for example, if it's if me and you're going to and we break up, and for example, you cheat on me, well, I can just go online and be like, yeah, you could, you could, you could, you could say, I'm wondering, why, why? Like, you cheat on me. What I, I removed myself from you because you're bad for me. Yeah. And then our close friends and people who deserve to know know what's happened. Everyone else doesn't deserve to know. But you may not feel that it was enough. You may be like, I want to out her. Yeah, she's out here living her best life. But I've been Mrs. Ditch Blacklist. I want people to know. Yeah, yeah. That's the problem, though, because that means it, guys, in yourself, like, there's an issue here,

1:36:09because now it's like, I want everyone to, like, yeah, you're right. Yeah, she is. Come on. The issue is she's hurt. The issue is she's hurt. That's it. It's not that she knew or you were that, and everyone knows it's going to make you feel better. Sometimes. No, I get it. I get it. What do you think it's going to give you? No, but that's it. But why can't you just leave it as she's hurt? She's lashing out and you think it's garbage? That's it. No, because you're going to have discussion. No, but he's not the way he's saying it. You're not going to change his mind. No, it's not going to change his mind, but for the people that are watching, they're exploring the conversation. Of what? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. You think there's no other. No. No. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm actually having an interview. I don't get to that one. You got another one? Yeah, I got another one, still. No, no. Okay. I got one as well, but cultural gatekeepers. Who's that like? Who's that like? When I'm in Jamaica now, people say, Oh, there we go. Oh, my God. No, no, no, no. People say interview stuff like, Oh, you didn't in Jamaica in the whole trouble of luck.

1:37:11What? You didn't talk to her stuff? Fig, man. I'm not from it. Okay, cool. That's, yeah. You're going to go like to the, the part I'm not supposed to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that. No, no, no, no. People look at, are you all talking? Yes. Yeah. I'm not to make people. Who's judging you? No, I'm saying that people did this thing. If you go back home or to a country, you should go to the race. They're going to be like, Don't stay with a tourist. They're big men. I am not to Jamaican unless some, my thing is unless someone, unless you've gone with someone who's from there, they know it and they take, they'll be going in. No, no, no, no. 100%. If you come to Nigeria, you can come with me around. And that's, and that's the only way I'm doing it. Exactly. But that's like me saying to you, what you're saying? I'll tell you how I come on. Like when you come to Nader next year, I will take you to some spaces that the tourist will be on track. I'll say, say, That's because you're coming with me. And I'll be in a group. Yeah. Okay. When I went to Trinidad for my boys wedding, I booked, I did the time in Zwrong. Anyway, so I ended up staying two days later than after I wanted to go. So I just booked the Airbnb anyway.

1:38:13Ended up going there, I stayed there. It wasn't safe. Wait a minute. Wait, did you start the Airbnb anyway? I booked the Airbnb anyway. I didn't know. I didn't know. I was training. Yeah, exactly. So you was just like, oh, this looks nice. Yeah. It was keeping cheerful. I was just like, what's the way ahead? I've gone there now. I checked in whatever. Bear mind, there was no one there. It was just like I wanted them Airbnb's where they keys. I need to pick, wow. Yeah. Then I met one of my friends's best friend who lives there. Okay. A local. And he's come to pick me up. And when he's come to pick me up, he's on the phone to me, but I hurry up and jump to my car. Oh, shit. I've come to the car. Why are you asking me? You go, don't you know, we were staying. He starts early. I was working up and down. I was in the Chinese. I know. But I look at her and read it by the way. You're looking for the curtain. I know. No, no, no, no. Oh, wow. Yeah. You can't judge people for that. No. No. No. No. My enemy is, oh, God. Where is it? We find it again. So my enemy is King Charlie and his Mary Gang.

1:39:15So. Prince Charles. King Charlie. King Charlie. This week, a couple of days ago, Donnie Parton icon that she was passed away. And the Royal family decided to honour her by having the King's Guard performing a special 9 to 5 version. No. What? Now, whilst you might think, oh, that's so nice. Oh, it made it. Like she touched so many people's brilliant art. Great, great, great. All those things. But they said, this was their statement. Remembering the late great Dolly who brought joy, comfort, inspiration to so many, including the millions of children given free books throughout her imaginary library. We will always love you. Now on surface, that's like, oh, that's wonderful. I don't know. They really get the touch in the people's throat. Fucking great, isn't it? No, it's not. Because whilst you are charging and being lent, is to park, you can't be making out like your full of people. You're not full of people. So that's why they're my enemy. I mean, they're my enemy most of the times.

1:40:16But I did not appreciate the hypocrisy. We said to the public. The hypocrisy of it all. We said to the public, we're, in high schools. Basics, there's a plot of land. I think it's Nists sent tomuses that is owned by the Royal family. And ambulances have to park there. Right? And the Royal family make millions from them parking there. That's not a small pool. Millions from them parking there. No, it's not taxpayer money. They owned a land. It's not fair, but they're getting paid by the taxpayer. Well, basically. Because they're just, exactly, effectively, correct. But this is their private money. This is their private money. Yeah, they're making money. Well, they're making money twice, I suppose, because they get paid from the tax. That's where I'm already owning it in the city, the city of London. All of this. That's different to the Royal family. The city of London is owned by the Royal family. The city of London is not owned. No, it's not. It's its own city. It's its own city. The centoms is less minute. No. It's a bit of a start. It's just less minute, isn't it? But even my point is, let's not get, let's not do areas.

1:41:16But basically, my main thing is that the hypocrisy of them praising a woman who was selfish, selfless, and she could have been a billionaire. Yeah, and she could have thought that she chose not to. She chose to give back in every way, shape and form. And then you as a royal family, when Grenfield burnt down, and there were people that didn't have homes, I didn't see you open up your shit for them. You didn't do that. You went and you said, oh, we're going to be so sad. But you didn't do anything else. You are not for the people. You're for PR. Publicity. So I hated it. I hated that they latched on to a moment in time and made out like, oh, you're not. We were part of it. We were always loved, heard too. But they're, they're, they're, they're above their pay grade. No, above whose pay? As a example, King Charles is like. They don't have to charge people for that. No, I'm not saying they have to. I'm not saying like, you know, like, the mad, they're millions. They are millionaires. They are millionaires. I get that. I'm saying, but you know, like, there's things in place the monarchy have already, that like, Charles slips in. And then when Charles goes, he's some of us. The system is in place.

1:42:16The system is in place. There's not like Charles is like Charles ambulances. This has always been happening. No, no, no, no, no. I'm the next in line here. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Because essentially, if it is your, if it's your property and you own the tinger, you don't have to do that. You've come into, you've come into power as such, right? And if like, and actually that's his land that he owns. He could turn around and say, no, he's profiting millions from this. Millions. You don't have to do that. You want a million there already? What do you need more? How much more do you need? You don't even, you don't even pay in here. You never pay in herens tax. No, I hear about you. The whole family that I need to know that you don't pay in herens tax. How much more do you need? Don't chat about Dolly. Shut your mouth. I'm a desperate, I might as well. This is, this is a discussion. If... I don't know. It went left. I'm doing CZ meals, yeah. So, ZZ tweeted last week, a lot of men are predators. That's what I mean.

1:43:16You believe you're not, because you're not dragging women into a bush. You think that you're a good guy. In reality, you plot on women. You've been watching from a distance presenting false versions of yourself to get intimacy, predatory. And then she went on to actually have the dictionary definition of what a predator is. When applied to a person, a predator is someone who rooffully exploits, manipulates, deceives or harms others for personal gain, power or gratification. I think she has put on that men are up in arms. Maybe it's men are the enemy in this situation, but men are up in arms being like, obviously, everybody presents their best version of themselves. But that isn't really the thing. Like Joey Baddass, if you're just a serial cheater, instead of us saying and calling you a serial cheater, we should label that person a predator.

1:44:17What do you think? I just see what you're saying. Nice predator. No, it's a cheater. I just gave you the definition of a predator. No, but you don't know how he got her. You're assuming how he got her. You're assuming that he lied to get her. She might have always known and tried to overlook it. We don't know that. So I'm saying we don't know how Joey Baddass... If someone's cheating, you're not a predator. Then the person they're cheating on doesn't know about their extra character activity. That's why I call it cheater. I'm not like new cheating, but that's exactly what I'm saying. No, no, I'm saying but she might have made it. No, you mean? And he might have been the guy who was about time. Once the cheater always... She might have been like, I can change him. Or now he might behave once we get married. Or he might have... I'm saying we don't know. So I'm saying the term for him is he's a serial cheater. But to now see the predator... But don't know. So you can't say that yet. Yeah, but I'm saying you can't just say the predator just because... Don't say it. That's the... Literally, you're describing a predator. We've just decided to clean up the term to be serial cheater.

1:45:18If he is manipulating, if he is lying, if he is presenting false information and then you find out contrary, we should call it what it is. That is being a predator. And now we're giving people like nicer labels. I don't think it's a nicer label, but I just... Yeah, predator is a hard word to hit. Yes. That's what it is. It's the connotations that you get which I think are used now. If you are, you are. Right, but then the definition. If someone is something else, just because it's just like, are your predators too? I don't know. It's because the word is so heavy. I don't think so. Because if you're a predator, it's jump saying it. You are a cheater. We're saying that a cheater is a predator. And you're saying, no, we don't know because he's giving variables. But if you're... So that means if all the cheats on the matter are cheats of predator. Yeah. If that's the definition, it's not genderized. It's literally that. The whole genderized tweet. Well, in the tweet, it was... It wasn't too bad. It wasn't too bad. But what's the right amount of women in predators will say men are predators. Very, very. So in this term, if women cheat, that means if women in predators, but you wouldn't say that, you just call it a cheat. I have.

1:46:18If you cheat on me, I'm going to say... There are women who are predators. You just say that. You just call it a cheat. If you cheat on me, I'm going to say... There are women who are predators. You just say that. No, I get it, but I'll just say your cheat. But I think... But then I don't... But then I think we're getting the cheat... I think we're getting cheater and predator, like mixed up. Yeah, I don't think they're the same. I think the difference is... How is she... I think if you're presenting yourself in one way to somebody, to get something... It could be whatever. It doesn't have to be sex. I mean, I think it could be anything, right? To get what you want and you're providing a false version of yourself, then I think that's the definition of predator. Yeah, I don't think cheating makes you a predator, like on its own, whether you're a man or a woman. Isolated or whatever. Yeah, yeah, I think it's like the... It's the... What is the word? Yeah, I think what she said is...

1:47:19It's interesting. It's like presenting a completely different version of yourself and lying. I mean, it's... I mean, it's... But you see... Some of those are all the things that come up from cheating. But my issue with this is now that... Same thing with narcissists and all these buzzwords. What's happening now is people are just going to start claiming people are this and this without no background. It's just like, now bare-man are going to be predators because of something. And it's like, what exactly is it? I think that's the discussion, though, are just bare-man predators. Actually, like the stalking of people, so the watching folks on social media, like knowing where they're going to be, going there, like pursuing somebody, and they don't know that they have been pursued. It's interesting, though, because I'll pay devil's advocate, because a lot of women do that. Yeah, they... Like with high profile men. Yeah, and... For all of us. There are a lot of women. I mean, they're very open about it. Like, I'm going to these types of clubs,

1:48:20and I'm going to try and get into these types of spaces, because I want to meet this type of man with this type of income and this type of job. Listen, I'm just paying... No, no, no, no. I was saying they're not women. I was saying they're women like that. But I think you would describe them as predators. It's predator-to-toy, but if you're... I is. I think the language... Now, now we're talking about you would, but we wouldn't say that. But I'm just saying that, but this is a new... If we're having conversations, it's like introducing New Lexicon into the... Into the culture, so then we can have... Have these titles, so people are more aware of their behavior. So if we can't say that we won't, if we're talking about and saying this is what it is, people will start identifying my behavior as predatory. So are you guys... No, no, no, the delivery is just there. You can't... Some needles. What are you talking about? You never thought of what you've been getting. Are you never offered? I never thought of you. You never thought of you. You did that. Fucker. He's actually going to work. We actually discussed this on three shots a couple days ago. What?

1:49:20I really was what's easy with saying. I'm okay. I lost two lines. I'm going to read it out again. I'm going to go as to manipulating, lying and so on and so on. So you're talking and saying that... No, it's not. I didn't say that. No, she... I can't... There's a line there. The line is... Is it... Are you talking about this one? Like... No, not the definition. What she tweeted. Okay. Presenting a false version of yourself to get intimacy predatory. Okay. That's the part where I was like, you know what I hear what she's saying. But then we kind of lean... Kind of leaning to... Yeah, but everyone presents themselves a certain way initially to get to know someone. I'm like, that's a bit loose because they're still not a false version of yourself. A version of yourself. Like, when you go to apply for a job... Sorry. When you go for interview versus you three months into the job, it might not be the same person. That's what I'm talking about. But I don't know what I'm talking about. No, but I do, but actually it's true what she's literally said to get to gain intimacy.

1:50:22And I think, yeah, at the end of the day, most men, if they're pursuing a woman, it's to gain that, isn't it? That's why I said I agree with her. The man number up in arms, again, it goes back to the uncomfortable question. Well, it's in on the... No, that's what I'm saying. I think it's been happening. When you have a new definition of a particular word that you've been using, it's not uncomfortable because it's like, oh, this could be me. Yeah. I've rather than see it as an attack, see it as you know what, maybe there might be holes in the way I was behaving. Mm-hmm. Because it's very specific as what she said. If you have said XYZ that it's got nothing to do with you in order to get someone into your bedroom, then... You'll be in the pretty room. Yeah, that is quite better to you, yeah. What Taylor said is, I think the term is correct in terms of certain man doing that behaviour is predatory. But my only issue will be, is that certain people are going to start using this term loosely on men that are not like that. I get that. I think the bigger picture is because if we go into that, then we to rail the conversation.

1:51:25No, it's not that. I'm going to say this. Remember, when the word Nossus came up, it was someone who was exosynosis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not everyone exosynosis or that's like in... I can't find that. Have a conversation with someone and prove them wrong next minute. I'll get started. Yeah. But I just don't agree what you're saying. Yeah. So now people now have taken all these terms and then they use it and we're just doing the conversation. It's like, I've had enough stuff like this is dangerous because although you're calling out men which is fine, because a lot of these terms are not diagnosed and they're not like it's kind of called terms here or used by the right people. Now it's going to be used in a whim. But right because I met you and you're romantic before and you're not as romantic as you were before. I think that but then also we can do that. But then let's deal with actually what it is to be a predetermined and not to be a predetermined because then it becomes easier for when someone's thrown it about. It's the door of being ridiculous because I think as Tazam was saying that hearing that word and it's uncomfortable and then actually checking your behaviour

1:52:31and saying, let's sit here for a second and say, what is it that I have done that could be considered predatory and stick with that because it's more dangerous to have predatory behaviour go unchecked than the one or two people that have been asked, you're a predetermined because you're going to prove them wrong pretty much you can, you're just being stupid. If we focus on what Zizi said, I think the issue is men who I guess pose a certain way as if they may want a long term relationship or look at marriage or whatever. Then they just sleep with the girl or sleep with the woman should I say and then I'm not on the normal. So it feels as if like you've posed as one thing to me. I've given you what you say you didn't what you wanted and then boom. But then we were arguing on the pod that maybe it's not a lie. There could be scenarios where you were having fun, you were cool and then it got to the point where you got intimate and then after one part is not interested in it. We find that it's a lot easier for women to say I'm not interested in you more and her lead as opposed to a man say I'm not interested in him.

1:53:32I have two questions. I have two hands I wanted to ask. So it's kind of like, if for example, you're dating me and you speak to the girls, you're like, the sex is weren't even good, you know. And you cut and you cut Marvin off you. No one's going to be like, you're going to be like, you're using it. Whereas if I'm not going to be like, are you laughing? Where is it? Where is it? It's not real. And then I'm dating you. I'm not that sex is dead whatever. There might be a view of me Marvin used to just. No, actually sorry. No, I don't agree with that because that. If you see what's up. Sorry sorry sorry sorry. Okay, I couldn't find a way. It's just funny. I mean, it's all a muck and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It used to be with the woman and the sex is dead for whatever reason for you.

1:54:35It would be for her as well, but anyway, that would be. It would be, but anyway, but it's you. I'm going to have a worst down on it. If you feel like the sex is dead, but she doesn't for whatever reason. Yeah. I don't know that a woman could. Like, okay, say if my, one of my girlfriends came to me and said, oh my god, that is guy. And we chatted and chatted and then we slept together. And he was like, not really. We were not really feeling the sex right? You're sorry. You know, as I never said that. What's in the circle? I never said that. I feel like it just doesn't. That's just that doesn't happen. That's not fair. Because you don't think it happens, but maybe he just. Maybe, okay, okay. Maybe he's not a sex. You're sorry, maybe. And you don't hear from me again. And I roasted you. And then now that's why you're like, it's used me. It's like, no, maybe he couldn't tell you the sex was dead. No, but I think why we're laughing is because in those scenarios, if the sex was dead for you,

1:55:39the majority of the time the sex would also be dead for me. 100%. So therefore, I know the sex is dead. So therefore, I know that's what some dead sex is. Yeah, that's the thing. You might have thought you were throwing it back and you weren't. So I mean, I'm afraid I'm afraid. I'm afraid I'm afraid. It could make me the sex. It could be the sex. It could be the sex. I mean, that could happen. It could happen. Of course, there's two things. Or you might have thought that head was good and there's bad teeth. Oh my day, God. God. There's two things I want to ask. Because why? Hang on, sorry. This is because this isn't really a persecutive in Jesus' question. Have you ever had that? Sorry. And then it's very. Yeah. Have you ever really even feedback? Have you ever often been feedback? Other since talk, man. You know. You know what? But that's fair. No, that's fair. Very good. No, that's fair. Because not everyone. No, no. You tell them. No, no. No more. No. No. No. No. No.

1:56:39No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No more. No more. No more. No more. No more. Okay. We'll be talking about that. We'll be talking about that. I got two questions. Oh, damn it. Why did you guys find it so hard to say this is not what I want anymore. And it's not like this situation here like you guys are saying like men will find it easier just to kind of ghost. Now, I want to say it goes. I want to say it goes. Do you have a doby subscription? Mm-hmm. Do you? Yeah. Have you tried to unsubscribe? You guys are doing it. There you go. There you go. There you go. Are you trying to talk again? What's the only? Oh, tonight night? Tonight night? It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. I was wondering. I was wondering. I was dealing with the girl I want to leave. No, the girl I want to leave. No. Tell me. No, I knew. No. That was fair. No, that was fair. No, that's fair. That's fair.

1:57:39I just listen to you. I know girls. I know girls. That was fair. Can I finish what's in it? I know girls that won't hear it. Yeah. And they won't. The man has said to them, I'm not interested, whatever. And they won't hear it. They'll be like, oh, they'll keep trying and keep trying and keep trying and keep trying. And they'll try different things and they'll try to keep trying. Is it because you got a girl? It's not good. Yeah, it's not. There's not a very specific. Especially if they're not real tangible reason to say. Yeah. That's the part that's the point. It's hard. There isn't another person there. And to really just be like, I'm just not feeling just this situation. Yeah. To be fair, that's a hard pill to swallow. It's a male or female. That's a hard pill to swallow. Women cannot take rejection well. Men cannot take, let's not look about. Men cannot take rejection well. No, no. I don't get to get to know about it well, but we have it more often. Your face and it's. We approach them in more. That's fair. In life in general. Yeah. So more times you get more knows than yes. Yeah. That's fair. But when I'm pushing back is because in all seriousness. The women in my.

1:58:39I know. It's a girls all women in my circle. I don't know anyone that has continuously forced. Unless they haven't told me. You would never know. Okay, fine. I would never. If they're ever gone a phone. So you're trying to mean that every time. It depends. But it depends. It depends what the definition of forces though, because like. Like because what the guy has shown you. Sorry to interrupt you. But if a guy has shown you that he's not on it. Right. And then showing you that. If the guy has shown you that. And he has said to you, it's not you. I don't want to relationship with you. I know girls that will go through and continue. I know them. What's the concept of your. Hopefully changes. Maybe I can change. No. What I'm saying is that. If a man, if I'm saying it, the man says. It is over. I don't want to be with you anymore. I'm done. So the woman is going to be like, okay, no. But what and try and work on it. But if you're not giving her anything else. You're not answering our phone calls. She's not coming round. Whatever the case is, you cut it off. What else can she do, Bob? Turn out you're doing. I think I'm not your. You're actually describing exactly the things.

1:59:39Most people don't want to be that harsh of her. That's what I was saying. So they will do. It's like withdrawal. People hadn't agreed. And actually be like, he's not there for me. I haven't heard from him in two weeks. They don't do the. But maybe let me just call again. Exactly. And that's the slow. That's what. That's what. Wait, sorry. That goes completely. When I really shit it picking up on those signals as well. Like read the signs. Like, have a good life. That's what my mind is. Like, what can we do? I can't read it. I can't read it. What can we be all grown and just see? Exactly. That's what the conversation is. Because I had a conversation with someone that actually, nah. And they were like, what did I do? And I said, you do anything. I just don't think we're right. Not the vibe. Yeah. That's it. And I've had the flip where guys haven't necessarily said. Say it because actually, if you maybe we had a conversation, we could be cool and we can be talking normally.

2:00:39And you don't even know what I'm thinking on this assumption of pullback and then not being respectful because to me, it's like, you're not being respectful of the situation. Not everyone's just desperate to be with you as a man. That's very true. But sometimes men act like some men, but in a lot of situations, do not are not upfront. So I just wonder why you roll and I feel that sometimes it's just be respectful of the situation and say, this is not for me right now. And not everyone was going to be like, coming on for dear life. That's true. No, that's true. But I do think there are, I think men have this thing of not being able to say stuff in general. Exactly. There is the assumption. Men always assume, you know what the woman's response is going to be. Like, you might meet a girl and she might just want to fuck you. But you assume that she wants a relationship. No, I just want to bug you. Do you know what I mean? But it's not really. It's hard to say it though. I don't think that a lot of men have been, I don't think it's nothing to teach, but a lot of men are not aware that they can just say things like that. And that's what I mean. And you mean straight up. Yeah. So I think that's why it is the Trojan Horse.

2:01:39Yeah. It's that, oh, the relationship is what she's saying she wants. But maybe I can, like, that's what I want to. Yeah. And I think that's where you get into more headache than necessary. If men could learn to be upfront. The front and on in. The front people do their checks. So it's a lot easier as well. Yeah. Well, you have to go. We're not allowed to talk to any more. We're not allowed to talk to any more. We're not allowed to talk to any more. It's just a drink. It's definitely a good time. I know. The time keeper is there. Thank you, darling. You've been amazing. Thank you. It's been excellent. Guys, you want more to hear what you can see here in Fightland playing Kim. We've got three episodes out now on what channel? Sky. Nikesky and Nought TV. Yes, Nikesky and Nought TV. Watching it, watching it. Watch it. It's the best season series. Eight episodes. Eight episodes of fun drama, violence, sexy men, sexy women. Everything you can expect from a 50 cent show is in here. Basically, yeah. Basically, yeah. And they say, yeah. As a British baby. Yeah.

2:02:39Oh, no. So you have my world on. Thank you for coming. Thank you. And scene. Okay, guys. The soul food debate is back. Careful. I need to get his name right. And I really like this guy. I really like him. I really like this guy's content is ad if unsolicited ad if undisolicited. He has lots of cultural takes. I really agree with lots of things he says. He's unafraid to be political or anything like that. He's black, black, black, black. But he told us off us, Brits, because he said that the Brits. We love them. The black Brits are appropriating the word. The word soul food. So black Brits are the enemy of progress. Basically, yeah. Because he's saying that he is noticing a lot on socials. The influx increase in black food spots in the UK. Calling themselves soul food spots. It could be something whatever the name is, but they are saying they are selling soul food.

2:03:41And what they are selling is either African Caribbean fusion or specific black cultural foods. But naming it soul food. He said this is a Greek, this is out of order and should not be done because it's appropriation of something that was born in America. In black America specifically has a specific history. It is not the same food. It does not have the same history. It has a similar alignment to how it evolved. But we absolutely, unequivocally, should not be calling British black food in any aspect soul food. The reason why it's funny that I'm saying it is because I whimsically said it last year on a pod that I think we have our own version of soul food because of the history that goes into how we cook. And I got flamed. Feeling, I tell you in the comments. By Americans. Yeah. Not even Justin, the comment. There wasn't Justin, the comment they made. They made a comment.

2:04:41They made a comment. They made a comment. They made a comment. They made a comment. They made a comment. They made a comment. They made a comment. They made a comment. Okay. Go ahead. Yeah. Because it's their thing. Yeah. Okay. So, are the black British people calling their spots soul food? But why? Is that out of order? They've coined the term already. It's their term. We never called it soul food before. So, are we calling it soul food now? And it's not the same food that we're cooking? No, no. A lot of the places I've seen. I went off wide. No, no, no. I agree with you with that. You might call it hard food. Right. You know what I'm saying? Or we might call it other things. I agree with you with that. Yeah. But in terms of like not... There is a lot of the food. Okay. Let me get this straight. So, there is some definite parts of soul food that are just American cuisine. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. And in terms of the name soul food, I agree with you. They own that. That's their thing. Yeah.

2:05:41However, if you're going to make ox tell, you're going to make macaroni cheese. That does not. That is not just American. So there's parts of it where they're like showing images of some of the food. And I'm like, but that's also that we didn't get it out from you. Yeah. That's just like a black thing. Yeah. You know, that's the diaspora as wide as you can go. Everybody makes that. But in terms of the term soul food, and like if you're going to make, I don't know, like specific dishes, then yeah, that is... That 100% soul food. I think if you've got spots here that are emulating like collagreens and all the stuff that they have in there. Yeah. So they're not the yams, really. No, but the yams the way they make it. Yes, they go. They call them... And you want to put them on bread. You want to call that sort of thing. Soul food, but they can't really move because that sport is paying homage to what they do over the... Yeah, exactly. ...to try and use that. ...and do an Algerian spot or Jamaican shop or whatever. Why are you saying soul food? Because we never call it soul food. In that year, no one says I want soul food. And to be fair, that's what he was saying. He was showing like the images of some black bricks and they were going to certain restaurants

2:06:42and the food that was being served was like an amalgamation of cultures. So it would have a gel of rice with chicken and he's like, that's not soul food. That's right. But the thing about America is Americans do this thing where they generalize. So even when I was in Jamaica, we used to have Americans there. They're like, oh, use what you eat, jack-a-bate, beans. But I'm like, what about because you've seen this, do you eat raisins with your potato salad? No, I said, is that because that's what white people in America eat. I'm like, you do this thing where British cuisine, just because you see it, we all eat it. I'm like, I'm Nigerian. So a lot of stuff, I'll be like, Julla fries, I'm a lot of bar, pan of jam, whatever. Then I might eat ox tail, I might eat fries and peas, but black British people might indulge in a young shepherd's pie. Maybe... ...pission chips, beer and beer. But they're our staple diet. But in their minds, they think our staple diet is fish and chips, beans on toes... ...sweet and sour. ...but that's the eating of it. Yeah.

2:07:42That was the whole point of the first clip that went viral was in regards to Keith Lee when he came over. And people in his comments say in, like, what is the food that you're eating, like, why are you eating kind of Jamaican food and everything? And that was what you was responding to, was, so you guys think of British cuisine, but obviously he's coming to the black spots. Our spots aren't what you would think is British cuisine. We have our own versions of what, so that you would understand, is salt food. Not to say we have salt food here, but for some reason, within this year, there has been spots that have come along and they're calling themselves so... ...salt and butter. I'd love to know who that one is on. But the thing is, I also think it's an interesting... I think, in hearing it out, I get it and how he broke it down. I'm very fair, but I want to also remove the bitterness or the anger or the irritation because I generally don't think that there are British people just saying it out of...

2:08:48Or calling their spots, salt food, out of disrespect. I mean, that's the part that we have the rub where when we're having these cultural discussions, there's an immediate feeling of... ...or it's like, you're raising our history and our culture, no. And yes, he went on to say that the way that black American culture has been exported and then he's saying it's been bastardized. That's not necessarily our fault. We're getting what we're exported and there are some similar foods on the plate where, actually, as we evolve into a black British... ...imaginary society where there's fusion of cultures, we will start to figure out... ...what is our collective grouping of stuff. So maybe we have to only call it black fusion food. But then if we know that there's something that's similar, I understand why people go to salt food. I also understand the irritation, but I just don't think it should be anger. I think it's a conversation. And in afterwards, it's like, what do you lose?

2:09:49And I'm not saying... not with the rage because you can say American salt food, you can say... ...what if there was British salt food? What if there was a country or something placed on it? So there's a differentiation. The thing is, I do understand why people would be frustrated by the adoption of the word salt food. Because for the Americans, I'm a Caribbean, so I can say this here, for the Americans, the salt food came out of what they didn't have. That's the origins of it. The same thing happens in the Caribbean. We just didn't call it that. So because they've called it that and coined it that and they own it. And so many other things have been corrupted. I understand why they want to hold onto something like that. For us to now come and say, this is our salt food, I get the annoyance of it because it is a corruption of what they have gone through. Do you know what I mean? Like I think it's a problem. In terms of what we're doing here, we said it last week, we are in our infancy. In terms of black, black Britishness and what our culture is and the melting pot of things that we're having.

2:10:52We're in our infancy. They've had centuries of different cultures from Africa coming together to make the thing that they had. So we can't call it the same thing. We need to, as you said, find our own shit. That's what we need to do. We need to call it something else. I just thought you think that in terms of Britain need to write ourselves more. In terms of black. I don't think people realize how small we are. But how powerful we are in regards to our influence on the world as well. I think sometimes we're Americans. Are we Americans? But at the same time, I'm like, that's your thing over there. This is our thing here. So I'm like, we shouldn't even be using terms that they have. Because it gives them this big brother complex where you're the little brother and your copy and that's again. Because those days have gone. When we were growing up, when Graham and his infancy and a garage and everyone said you had the rappers in the UK that had the American accent. We don't do that no more. When we're wrapping or whatever, the accent is British.

2:11:52The way we dress, we don't dress like them. We might have like maybe the odd cap or Yankee hat. Cool. Like, Jeremy speaking, we're not copying how you dress with our own lingo that Trump's in. It's our fusion of like, you've got your Nigerians over here, the Jamaica's over here. Jungle, garage, Graham. We've got our own thing. So it's a disservice to ourselves to call our food. Soul food when you've got an Nigerian over there. You've got a Jamaican over here. You've got some of the Trinity that our food has its name already. Yeah. Prophesion. Why do we have to call it that? That's what we have to call it. That's what we have to call it. I agree with you. I feel like that is the enemy of progress actually. Yeah. It's carrying that on that they have set a standard. And so somehow this is the term that we should use as well. Yeah. Because I understand, you know, that the term came along in the 60s. It's not that old. So maybe like how places will be like, oh, it's a diner. You're just taking something that is American and being like, let's put it as ours now.

2:12:54Yeah. Let them have it. Ask for that vote. Don't need to do that. No, we don't. And I think the America is like, there's a resentment building for the American. For the last three to American people, the time you have conversations. And there's a resentment building in terms of how do I explain this? We know. A lot of African Americans obviously have gone through the struggle with it in terms of having to get where they are in America. And some of them don't like the fact that they've seen other nationalities of black people come to America and kind of take off where they've got the black people in America too. And they don't seem to be getting. They're on a date. The rewards for their hard work. In terms of society, they're below, whereas you might get an Algerian or Liberian or come to America, they've got a business and they're gone. And they're looking at like, well done. If it wasn't for us, you wouldn't be able to get here. So I get this unbiased resentment with some of them. And also in terms of even acting, the British guys are coming over there and getting roles.

2:13:55They don't like that. And now it's kind of like, oh, British people are taking our term, sulfus. There's so many variables to this argument that's like, listen, let them have their terms, man. We've got enough juice on this side to be able to call it what we need to do. I agree. I think we're getting there at that point. And I think that's where, because the matter of time we've been caught up in this conversation, let's go to run to the comments. This is our section where we respond to comments on our past videos. So in line with that, we had a few people, Americans commenting on our one of our past episodes. But it actually is along those lines of really breaking down because we've been quite not defensive in the ignorant way, but we've been quite defensive about not dismissing the lineage and the heritage of where, because it feels like Americans are trying to say that we're so different. You're not like us. There's no similarity. Your history is yours and ours is ours and there's no connection.

2:14:56And that's where we've been kind of defending ourselves. However, there's been a few comments I'm like, that's a detour in because I feel like that can be clipped in itself. It's not necessarily black Americans. It is a specific group, the FBA movement. Oh, okay. Yes. Specifically, they are on there. We are delineating from Africa and we are establishing ourselves as different. And I would always say you guys can do that, but why do you find our media and spam our comments? Saying that we are leaving you guys. It's like, okay, cool. You don't have to say you're an African. You can just go. So at TD 4079 says, just because you've supported us, doesn't mean you can now tell our story. That's all we're saying. We're saying we can coexist and work together without this washing of our identity and you guys taking from us. I understand you can relate. Of course you can. We're all human. I'm sure most humans can relate within one another in different aspects.

2:15:57Respects on both sides is what we ask. You guys are amazing and we should hear more about who you are from you and allow us that same space. Many of you feel because you've supported us, now you get to tell us who we are and how we should identify. This is where the anger comes from. We can all respect one another and still love one another regardless of differences. I shouldn't have to call myself a Nigerian so that you feel better or comfortable. And that's what's happening. Many of you guys get angry if we don't identify as you. And that's another thing. I think I don't know if I just call it as a taste or someone else. And I was saying, obviously I go to America a lot. And normally when you're here and you see someone black, you don't say, are we from? Because you know they're not from here. Well, even though you're born here, you know where their parents are going to be from a guy and a Nigerian. Wherever it's going to be, where's an America after I to learn that when I say to America, I'll leave you from Tennessee. I leave it there. Yeah. Yeah. It's that all your whole family from Tennessee. Whereas before I would have been like, no, no, where are you from from? Yeah. But people that realize, no, they've got like for like 10 generations that have maybe been in Mississippi and moved to New York.

2:17:00Whatever it is, but that's where they're from. But I think that's kidding. No, I get that, but you have to respect them in terms of you can't now say, you must be Nigerian, not know, like leave them there. No, but this is what that gets them upset. Yes. That's what I mean. You have to just say, do you know what that you have to respect their boundary of where you from Tennessee? Okay, your whole family. Okay, cool, cool. But you see what you've just said. That's I totally agree with you. You do have to just respect it. It's kind of like the irritation of when we get off where we're from. Right. But I think that that's the yeah, exactly. Where you from? Where you from? Where you from? That's the thing that people need to take on board as much as we need to take on board. If they've said they're from America, they're from America and that's it. Leave it there. Right. But I would like them to understand where that question comes from us. It doesn't always come from a place of it's not a negative place. Yeah. It's just something that we are used to because in our culture, that's what we do. Like, where you from?

2:18:00You're going to tell me on my families in Nigeria. But who's that? It's not always a negative like. I'm not going to say but I but whose job is that to regulate? No, I'm saying we just I am basically saying to you that we have to be respectful when we have to understand that. But I would like them to understand at the same time that when the question gets posed to you, don't always assume that someone's coming for you. That you know, like we don't respect your culture. You haven't got any culture because the assumption is by some of the people that you guys named. That's what we're saying. No, but it is also for us to learn that if they've said I'm from here, leave it there. But also there's that's not always a conversation in because I know personally speaking for me individually. If someone said, if I've been to when I've been in America, someone said, I'm from Tennessee, I've not then said no, but where you really from? I've not. I've just left it at that. It's this wider conversation, the Asperer Wars as it were. Yes, there's Ados and FBAs are saying this, but they're also black Americans are also not aligned with those movements. But just also saying we don't want we are acknowledging that we were here.

2:19:03It wasn't just a white man that created America. We were here. Yeah. That has been told to us either. We have also been told that slavery and the British Britain's colonized in the whites in America. And then slavery happened and then there was this influx of Africans that became Americans. So that's the issue that has been told. If there's more, that needs to be explored. There has to be a kind of a middle ground of understanding that we, when you're also saying that we're nothing to do with Africa, that's offensive. And that you can say it's a way that you pose it because how you've explained it where the person said, well, I'm just from Tennessee and leave it at that. That's fair. But when it gets added, why you're new immigrants are taking our jobs, you immigrants do this and you won't do that and you black and then it becomes like, then that's where the rub comes and it's like, no, we're trying to say you are from Africa because you start arguing the bigger picture rather than going on the kind of granular space of, okay, I understand where you're from. This is where we're coming from. It's just softly in the conversation and I think. I get what you're saying, but something is like, why is it even this argument?

2:20:03Because if I'm in America and if someone just a black person is upset about something, I'm never going to say to them, but you're from Africa though. Because for me, if you don't know that, that's fine. Maybe you don't know your history in terms of that. And you've your, it's the example, same for Jamaica, for example. So obviously there were black people in Jamaica before, but save trade, there were Africans that went there, right? That's not me saying, you have a Jamaican, so you use up really Africans like, no, because you've gone there and you've now created your own culture. Yeah. The point where I don't have to remind you about Africa, to make it your own hub now of, and it's impacting the world in its own way. So America are doing exactly the same thing where, yes, they're four fathers were Africans, but they've created their own food, their own music, their own lingo, and it impacted the world of music and other things. So now me having to remind them that you're African in the argument, it's kind of productive. If they've got hate in their heart and they're annoyed that the African four fathers, it's not for me to correct, because now I'm just going to get sucked into an argument that doesn't make any sense.

2:21:10So I'm saying that makes sense. It makes sense. When it comes to those kind of arguments, I don't get involved because I get why they can be annoyed with the world because you help build a country. If America wouldn't be there, that slave work labor. Remember that no break, you were working how many hours a day to build a country. And now in the same country, you don't even have rights. You fought Vietnam War, you're coming back to the colonial nigger. When I fought with his country, I'm saying so, I get how they can be so annoyed and it can leave like a bit of taste in them off their treatment they've received from their own country. So now unfortunately hurt people, hurt people. So a lot of the time with Americans, some of the things they say, you kind of have to look at them and be like, I get you, just mad in it. But when you engage, it's not about making sense. I think in general, in your, not in a character assessment of you, but there's that your nature is to sleep it.

2:22:12I'll leave people on my business, you mind you? No, I love an argument still. No, I have a need that. It's a miracle right. These are the miracles of that. Your beard looks wicked. That's right, your miracles are right. I hope they cook cheese. Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to. I was. It went on for a while and they still. I do think there's also the conversation because I think as, as again, who am I? Who am we to want to flight the good fight of black folks across the world? But these conversations, we're talking about everyone in the diaspora is suffering. Everyone in our back home countries is our suffering under white supremacy blanket. So the in-fighting is the problem. So the conversations I think are important. The stupid arguments are unnecessary. And on a face of a one-on-one, like, yeah, okay, we have in this conversation you can see that this person sensitive. Leave it at that. Let's walk away.

2:23:12Or there's people that are putting out in misinformation like the FBA and the adults and whichever kind of groups on our side, the ignorant people that are saying ignorant things about black Americans. Or Cameron going online and saying that, um, Africa stink. Yeah. And not be my. He said that though. He said it. He said it. He was telling a story about what his friends say. But how he said it, joking and laughing, there was no care and responsibility in what he was saying. It was left open to interpretation. It was just respectful. Wow. You seem to create. I've never seen it. But someone said that he repeated what someone else said. He was repeating it, but he left it. You know, if you're joking, bad. How you're fat, you're fat. It then becomes what you said. And as a person with the platform, you've got to be mindful in these kind of sensitive conversations. It's a choice. You've been very quiet. What do you think? I'm listening to what you lot say. And I agree what he was saying in regards to, we've had this conversation before. I'm going to speak into Americans. And then maybe them saying that they're American and then you're thinking, oh, no. You must know that your dad is from here. And they, some of them have no idea.

2:24:12Some of them just got their possible as the other day. They genuinely don't know. We've been taught off for saying that as well. Okay. But I've met people in America where they don't have their possible. Yeah. They've decided to travel. And then that whole ancestry thing came in and the people started doing. They did. Yeah. So it's just like, it's something that is not easy even a resource. And oh, I'm 20% Nigerian. And Nigerian flag is in the bio, but you didn't know you were Nigerian two weeks ago. So there is that friction there, but going back to the soul food, I think that's them. That's the them thing. Leave it with them. Leave it with them. Yeah. People should change their business names. But I don't think it was, and this probably just is me leaping here. But do we know who owns these restaurants as open pool and itself? Yeah, I don't think it's a black person who's saying decided to pull it out. I want to be surprised because I think there's also, as we go forth, we're getting further further away from that slave history, that kind of, the generations are generationing out now. So then a young British person that's got, I'm going to do my company, I'm going to do my food company, and it's a mixed matter thing. And I've seen Americans call it soul food.

2:25:12So I can see that being a thing. Before I had the conversation, if I was to do food, I might have called my joint soul food because of my interpretation of what I think soul food is knowing where it came from, but also understanding, because again, going not to label on it, the heart and soul, the history, the pain that is in Africans, is in Caribbean as well. So if I were to do it, I wouldn't be doing it to erase a history of America, it's because I'm relating, and I wouldn't have thought I was being disrespectful. But I would ask. But I get that now. I would ask, why would you call it soul food? Because that's what I think I know. No, no, I'm saying, but why would you call it soul food? That's because I'm saying to you, that's because because of where I understand the history of soul food. When I made my point, I was aligning some of the history of our food and how I used to work with this word soul is for soul black, but also there's a soul. We all have a soul. Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I was saying to them that our food wasn't changed. We didn't get, I wouldn't say so much. Nobody gets it. I get it.

2:26:13So the food in Nigeria has always been like that. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Have influenced food. There were times when there was colonization and we were restricted for our food. Our diet has been that almost every West African eats is probably 200 to 300 years old. And it's from colonization. It is British people coming in. That is not our stable. What Charles and Emma gave us, probably, did you know? That isn't how we used to eat. Not all of the foods, but some of it. There was brains that we weren't, this is the thing because a lot of history, we don't even know ourselves. Right. So we look into it. So there were grains that when they came and they saw that we could be subsufficient within our nations, they would burn those fields. And there's ancient grains that we don't have anymore because literally the British, the Spanish, the Italians, the French came along and was like absolutely not that's in an abundance and they killed it off. So our diets have changed as well. We aren't eating how our ancestors used to eat from West Africa.

2:27:15It's just that we haven't been told our history in a lot of the same way. They're actually Americans, black Americans, it's been documented. We have an erasure as well. No, it has been an erasure but I still think there was food that was there before. Whereas with Americans, a lot of them, they were given pig-towels. I mean, that's what I said. That's what I said. It's a different type of history. But it's the same with caravians. Yeah, that's what we had. I think it doesn't get talked about enough. But I'll tell you that. But I'm saying that. Look at that, you. I'm not saying that. But it's exactly the same thing. But you didn't call it. I will say, as much as we developed our own cuisine, we also changed some of the stuff and kept it because if you look at Cucu is a staple food in Grenada and across many Caribbean islands, it's very similar to Fufu. It's just made with a different grain because that is what we had access to over there. So it's like, you're looking at certain types of food and the similarities are there.

2:28:19We just used what we had. Yeah, yeah. And not all black American food is slave food. They've got also from other cultures that fed in. They've got the native. Americans have got other indentured people. There's other infringement elements in there. In their food. Yes, quick. It's not all just about slavery. Same way, African food is not all our natural food. It's not all infringement and colonizing slavery as well. Not all Caribbean food is all slavery food. There's some natural food. So all of that and that's where I came from in the fact that. And that's why if someone was to do in the UK, it's to call their food, to solve where to call their company, a soul food company. I understand it. I get and I agree that we can find our own name. But it's not always out of just straight culture appropriation ignorance because there is a shared. Yeah, I see what you're saying. That would have all passed out. I have a restaurant that said soul food and immediately you think, I this person is copying an American. I wouldn't. I would have to go in there, see the menu and then take that into consideration. But I would assume that if I see a shop this is soul food, I'll be thinking, if I'm

2:29:21going to see the Americans, but I would think that I would think that. I would think that. I would think that. I would think that. And I would think that. And that is, you know, you start to see a piece of my country is you see some sort of greens and then you see some, let's say, dirty rice, whether it's gelop, whether it's rice and beans, something that's not white, plain white rice. That is an, you can put us, you can put a American soul food plate and a Caribbean plate and an African plate with some say that is going to look. Yeah, so we don't do color greens, what we do, Calilie. Exactly. And we have, we have green as well. We do. Yeah, we have our version of green. We have rice, not white. But this is what goes back to what I just said about the development of food across all Malice Peak. But it's a weird one though, because in my mind, I'm just like, is this a black problem in terms of division? It is. It is. But then in the same time, you would never have a French man and an Italian man getting their

2:30:22food mixed up. You don't know that though. No, no, sorry. You wouldn't have that. When you go to Italy, like Spanish, I mean, sorry, when you go to the Spanish food, you know. You know, Italian food is Italian food. Yeah, yeah. And then in the front, French food is French food. You wouldn't get them across a no bar and they'd be in the argument. But what is the theme there? The theme there is they are the colonizers. That's the theme there. The colonizers have been, the colonizers have been able to maintain their own history and to write their own history and to keep their stuff. No, that's fine. No, but what I mean by that is that you wouldn't get those arguments because they haven't had the same battle. I hear that. That's a fair point, but at the same time their food is still their food and our food is still like that. I'm just saying that in terms of our food is a clear line between Nigerian food to make them food. Yeah, yeah. So food. So I'm saying why is there an argument or mix? But also it's not that I'm not sure.

2:31:24I'm just saying it should be, there shouldn't be an argument with why we're trying to name. You wouldn't have a restaurant called Le Blur and they do Italian food. Wouldn't have it. Where does we go? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's also something about the story. It's not a loose title because it's so food is what they've called it's been quined by them. But also, I've even seen some conversations where soul food if you're going to be very specific because even if they want to have in house and macabre argument, it's from the south. Yeah. Like it's only from the south. You cannot be in New York. Talk about soul food, right? Because you're not in the authentic. But you can't do that. No, but that's when they stop imposed our argument. They're not imposed at all. No, no, no, no, no, no. When I went to New York, there's a spot in New York. Of course there is. Of course. I've not seen that there isn't a spot she's saying that if you're going to be very authentic in regards to staying in your region, then soul food should only be in this one. No, that doesn't make sense. No, no, no. Oh, he's saying the heart for it. That's all there.

2:32:24But I'm actually in the mercadome. Yeah. Even to that specific. So I have to trouble them, Mr. Cpd to get soul food. Basically, basically, if you're going to be authentic, because there will be people up north that also created their version, their black food that they ate, that other people will say, you can't even call that soul food. Yeah. Because it's not from the south. The thing is though, we do, we do all get it. We do all understand why they want to hold on to this. Yeah. Because of the preparation. We do all get it because we just ordered some food and we ordered some jerk and we all questioned the color of the person that was jerking the chicken. We all questioned it. We went to your thing that other day, there was a couple of restaurants, not restaurants, food vendors. Food vendors. And they weren't, who they were advertised. And we were like, there's some time, the people are cooking work time. Yeah. Is that an issue? No. It was just funny walking around. It was funny. I'm seeing the workers. Yeah. I've heard in Chinese for you. I need to see a Chinese man stuff. It was a Chinese spot.

2:33:25And it weren't Chinese. It wasn't Chinese. I mean, yeah. Have you seen that clip? Sorry. There's a woman like, I can't remember where she's from. She's brown, generic brown. And she's cousin Gordon Ramsay talking about the racism within the culinary world. I saw that. And she was saying that like, her food gets critiqued and not being authentic. When she wants to do, say she wants to do Asian food. He and his fellow kind of Michelin star chef's will say, that's authentic. You have to cook your rustic, earthy food with them. And then how many non-white chefs restaurants have a Michelin star? There's very few. So in the UK, there's only one or two black people who have got Michelin stars wherever the case is. So she's like, there's racism in the culinary world. And if you're not of, but yeah, white people can do anything. You're white people who don't quite know anything. They can have that of a Spanish man doing a French restaurant. And it's not like no one's saying anything. But then when black people or a non-white people want to try other things of a French restaurant, they're like, no, it's not. You've got to do your own authentic food. And your food is reduced to just being ethnic. That's the thing is even in that scenario there, yeah.

2:34:26Let's say you do your own authentic food to your country, yeah. And then you're the one that's going to assess whether or not you do that. That's why I can't stand. I can't stand. I'm saying. I was on the phone with my mom the other day and I said, Mum, listen, you need to start doing up with Jell-O-Frog and she's like, but why? I said, Mum, like, for some reason, it doesn't taste the same. I've gone, I've eaten Jell-O-Frog everywhere. Mum, I want your one. Yeah. I didn't know it was like, I'm like, you must do. And then she only realised the other day she was at my brother's house and then she cooked for them. So my brother, my sister, my daughter was there, my brother's girl cooked for them and then they were all like going for a second and she was like, she was shocked. I'm like, Mum, it's still your cooking. Yeah. I'm getting mad. I'm getting mad. I'm getting mad. Listen, there's food that I'll never eat again and I'm upset about it because my grandson's not here anymore. This is like, I'm mad angry, like, you know, they have their way. They're all mad. That's like the elbow in there, man. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying to them, like, Mum, as we're watching our parents age, I'm like, Mum, let's write down some recipes, please, Mum, because it's real.

2:35:28I've a day in my dorm, we call it buff fruit, not puff puff. Well, I put that in the soul. I put that in the cell. I put that in the cell, yeah. That was the fault of the people. You just did the same for you. You put it in the book. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not puffing. No, it's cool puff of fruit. It's fair. You guys call it that. That is. No, no, that's that's it. The majority rule. We call it down on four. The majority rule. There's more about the user. We call it buff fruit. Buff fruit. Buff fruit. Buff fruit. Buff fruit. F-R-O-T. Buff fruit. Thank you. My daughter also made a wonderful batch and I was like, it's spirit lives on. She has got my mum's hand here. Yeah. She's got it in buff fruit. Buff fruit. Buff fruit. Buff fruit sounds better, though. Doesn't. Yeah. No, but there's something I do believe that. I believe that the ancestors can come through because I made, what did I make? I made like a turkey soup and I've been searching for this soup. My grandmother used to make this soup, which used to do with oxalbot, I don't even meet no more. I've been searching for this soup and when I made it, I could taste my grandmother and

2:36:30I was like, is there? Is there? Is there? It's going to be there. Yeah. Let's say they developed in America or over here a new way of doing weaving and it looks similar to Kente and they were like, well, what do I call it Kente? We wouldn't have it. Yes, true. So I, we get it. I sure. After American shops and they were doing the Kente Kroff and they were saying, it's called Kinti. No, they literally were like this. This is Kente? I see. If I saw them doing, um, jab, but they were calling it nab-nab. I'd be cussing. Yeah. I'm so sorry. We understand it. It's a conversation and an explanation. So, it comes to culture preparation or culture, when it's your culture, you're offended. And as other people's culture, you're like, I don't know. I'm not going to give you a second. I'm not going to give you a second. I'm not going to give you a second. It's fair. It's fair. I'm not going to give you a second. Yeah. It's fair. You put yourself in some of those shoes on your chair, you'll see it. All that valid. That's that. That's that. There we go.

2:37:31Guys, when can we, where do we find you in Kachar? People know it's like they're on a stand. They're on a stand. They're on a stand. You don't have your DNA. Oh my god. M-M-G. Oh my god. You got my first radio. I'm just saying. Oh my god. Oh my god. So, your view is Bapes. I know. So, you look at the American beefy. I know. I was in all of you. You look at the American beefy. I know. I was in all of you. You look at America's beefy. Yeah. Don't get lost in the airport. You know. I'm in bed. Your head locked in JFK. I know. Let's move on. But yeah. Three shots into Kila. And every platform. There's a black on Instagram. And if you're interested in R&B or slow jams, you can go check the one up as well. Marvin, I'll be an agent. Even Snapchat. Are you on Snapchat? Yeah. Oh, I had a question for you. Sorry. This is a really quick one. But, um, black culture. Black British culture. Put a shout out to you in Chucky. But they put your full names. Oh yeah. Yeah.

2:38:32Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was like, what the hell? I don't know what it under. That was mad, didn't it? Like Chucky's full name and so I don't know that we have to do that. I was like, what the hell? It was up to. I don't think it was a thing because my name. My role names out there. I don't hide. I don't shy away from my role. No, but it's a big thing. It's just like, it is what I was, she said, nasty word. Something like that. I just think they're gonna see put it down as I didn't I didn't want to message them to be like yo like why do I just for let me just leave it I mean I'd know I know Yeah, I just I don't know I don't know behind Yeah, so that made it even on that I didn't make no sense. Yeah, they done you know Chuckie and Taser Oh, that's me R&B art Chuckie and Tate on Government I figured everyone in the comments that I was right back in our store. Oh, what's that people making it sound like this is weird

2:39:34Like I respect your big in the mark, but are you exposing Black I've no idea. It was very surprised. They may be not that's what I'm saying that part if you're black You don't know the coach that is Because I don't know That's actually that those are kind of sprung up from nowhere Yeah, but what in the manner on the page are done like they women dating black men On the dark But yeah, that I don't let us say we didn't get to it. Don't shoot the next week You know, you're gonna be back When are we coming back on yours? I like coming on The day We go all right guys, thank you both for coming on This is the first time we've all been on You're not second time, right? Both your second times. Oh, you've been away. Oh, yes Look him Yeah, we had him before you know, but I want to see the clips. No, you don't know either I want to see the kids online

2:40:35They had a dummy talking about our fabulous and when he came on shit in whoa No, you said I'm not gonna talk about her. I know about it. You know you look what episode her name was in the title That's a point of this game of babes. I ain't talking about you Yeah, we never knew you like that then yeah, we saw you the day before though because where do we go? We went to post a look at us cocoa. I was looking at us from We said I love you. Oh, right. You were like, all right Honestly, we even said it's a taste when he came all white cocoa. Oh, right this is when it was a When it was a ask us and we go and you was like yeah No, we had a similar look for Marx Well, yeah, all of you know Maybe the way you approach him man when I'm approaching you grab me or something grab my anchor Good I want to do that. No, you know, we're not with glasses on the clock. I can't see shit sometimes So I don't remember that I know you so

2:41:39You guys Did you know you wasted I don't know Except the ticket I didn't use it I was there you are from he said from the you said from the job that you cannot make it because I was over Okay, what about so who got that so which paid what got the tickets I gave to you Because he wasn't that he blood on the day. I was like, okay, let me know when you get there silence You want to see Receive This is why when they look to me a cocoa

2:42:39You know because I have people who didn't take it and you said oh when you never You came on first you came on first Who came on last you close the show? I wonder who that's on me tell me we Some of the Instagram or what's that? Anyway guys keep saving enemy three What's the love and hugs from your favorite? And disrespect for bridge and the dishes went for uncles 9 me 26 where's my laughing up to the six sure