Talking Stitt: A Society Under Psychosis | Chris Mathieu

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2:26I believe multiple time guests, Kathy O'Brien, right? Yeah. Next thing you know, she asks if she can bring a friend on with her and Roseanne Barr pops up on your Zoom or StreamYard. Tell me about that, dude. How cool was that? Yeah, it was pretty wild. Like you said, I was scheduled to do the interview with Kathy O'Brien and Dr. Julie at Engle, another amazing guest, MK Ultra survivor from Wayback in the day. And when I get on with Kathy, she's like, hey, I got a friend I want to introduce you to. If I can Roseanne just hops on, she's like, hey, how are you? I'm like, holy shit. Kathy's like, oh, you mind if she joins us? I'm like, fuck no, let's do this. And the rest is history was a nice little surprise, you know? I love Roseanne. I don't really follow her that much. I don't agree with everything she has to say. I'm glad she did say some things, and I think she's super nutty for other things, but it was certainly a fun episode. That's where I am with Roseanne.

3:28I don't want to make this about her. I've just made it like, dude, that's so crazy that you literally just got surprised with, oh, by the way, like we just signed into the Zoom meeting. And before we hit record, can my friend join? You know, it's like having 25 years ago, can my friend come with me to the party and then Ditty walks in? You know, I mean, I'm not comparing her to Ditty, but I'm just having a big star in these kind of spaces where you're like, whoa, shit. Dude, that's cool as hell. I'm with you on Roseanne. I'm glad she asked questions. I don't agree with every answer she comes up with or every question she goes down, but she's another one that's escaped Hollywood. And it actually is glad she did. Kind of like a, oh, in Benjamin, and people like that, they got kicked out and they couldn't be happier. And you know, you've also got a new documentary coming up and, you know, I don't want to give, you know, the suspense away or anything, but when you're shooting right now, I know you've been posting stuff some stuff about it lately. So what's going on? We are almost finished. I am in the final editing stages,

4:34putting the finishing touches on everything. And hopefully we'll see a release around October, maybe early November in the streaming platforms. This one's going to be a little different instead of the straight up documentaries, very serious information. This is going to be a sci-fi comedy mockumentary starring myself, myself and myself playing a few different characters, along with a whole host of our friends and colleagues in this space. People like Charlie Robinson, Tray Hudson, some Brandon Thomas, some great names that we all know and love. And we're having fun with this one. It's pretty hilarious. And we will release more as it closes out. So we're really looking forward to this. Well, I like the idea of the sci-fi thing with it too, because we're in this weird, like, I kind of want to get into it before I get into what I was kind of talking to you before we recorded. It's a perfect time to release this stuff because there's so much parody,

5:39but there's so much truth. And then if you can kind of blend the truth and parody together, then I mean, we've got disclosure, people are fighting it out. There's aliens, even though we probably knew there was aliens and spaceships and everything else. But now the government's saying it, but nobody cares because there's so many other sideops going on all at once. So if you can take it into a fun kind of approachable comedy sense, that actually really comes off more honest than just being like, well, we've got this factual, you know, like a very serious documentary. Well, I can give you a little bit of the plot to give you an idea of what we're working on. I play myself, Chris Matthew, a podcaster that is interested in alternative topics and dabbling and occult and into psychedelics. And he gets too deep into some occult magic rituals that involve psychedelics. And he goes missing. His wife hires a private detective, Marty Maxwell,

6:40PI, played by myself. And I then proceed to try and find out what happened to the missing Chris Matthew. I interview his friends and colleagues and all the weirdos he knows and go on wild adventures trying to uncover the mystery of case 369 Chris and the quantum gate, which is going to be the title of the movie. So it's going to be a fun one. That sounds awesome, man. Well, X files, you know, you get to play your own molder, you know, fucks molding. That's fucking cool, dude. That's really cool idea. Well, also, man, like there's just all kinds of weirdness going on in the world. And, you know, I know you don't get like into the political realm or things like that. But sometimes like the people just stay in like the base level, the shallow end of the pool, on they just think left versus right, you know, men versus women, this versus that. We are in like another psychosis in my opinion right now where we're defending. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Xima. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let Xima take over? When

7:46you can talk to your doctor about epglyce. Epglyce, lubricism ab LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-mg liter injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms with moderate to severe axima. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin, or topicals, or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglyce can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to epglyce. Allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. Eye problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer worsting eye problems, you should not receive a live vaccine when treated with epglyce. Before starting epglyce, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Pay partnership with Lili. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about epglyce and visit epglyce.com or call 1-800-LiliRX or 1-800-545-5979. Your path to pharmacy can be closer than you think. West Coast University's hybrid doctor of pharmacy program can be completed in as little as 33 months, and no bachelor's degree is required to apply. If you've started pharmacy coursework elsewhere,

8:49WCU may accept eligible transfer credits to help students keep moving forward. Learn online, train hands-on at our Center for Graduate Studies in Los Angeles, and prepare for real-world pharmacy practice. West Coast University, as real as it gets, visit westcoastuniversity.edu. WCU cannot guarantee employment. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have so I get how it can steal your time. But why let eczema take over when you can talk to your doctor about epglyce? Epglyce, lubricism app LBKZ, a 250-milligram per-2-milliliter injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms with moderate to severe eczema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin, or topicals, or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglyce can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to epglyce. Allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. I-problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems, you should not receive a live vaccine when treated with

9:52epglyce. Before starting epglyce, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Paid partnership with Lili. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about epglyce and visit epglyce.com, or call 1-800-LiliRX, or 1-800-545-5979. Regardless of whether a doctor or over prescribed medication or the husband killed the kids, or the wife killed the kids, or whatever 15,000 narratives are going on in this lensi-clancy thing, there is just this so much weirdness of support of not even the case, we're forgetting about the children in the case, but the followers of it that are like weirdly like, it's like they're trapped in this spell almost, and they're making these TikTok videos same, and this and that, and it's like, man, like, is society under some mind control right now? We've got every sideop under the sun going on all at once, but this is the newest one that's going on, but is it up there? What are you referring to? Because I've been buried in my film,

10:56murder case. The lensi-leasy. Okay, so the lensi-clancy, she killed her three kids, long story short, that's the verdict, or that's what they say, but yesterday was declared a mistrial because one person wouldn't declare non-guilty, while it turned into this nationwide thing in the last month that, well, she had postpartum depression and her psychiatrist gave her all this medication, that's why she had psychosis, so we feel bad for her and we forget about the kids. So I'm getting at like, we are into degradation of society right now, or whatever. My point is, is like, we're seeing sia up after sia up, and it's just every other week, it's now it's men versus women. Then next week, it's going to be Christians versus Muslims again, then it's going to be 100%. You know, like, why are we under this hypnosis of, I don't know, take it from me. Of nonsense. So nonsense. What I can say based on my observations and my personal experience, and the years I've spent doing this, all the interviews and people that I've spoken with, all

12:00the research I've done, we are under a psychological operation of a mass scale that has been going on for a very long time. I personally have learned to check out of as much as possible, like the case you were just mentioning, I had no idea what you were talking about. Which is best. I pay enough attention to know the state of crazy that our society is. And there's constantly some level of psychological manipulation and control that society has been under for as long as we've known, as long as history goes. But we've entered a dangerous time in our modern age, where through things like MK Ultra and the experimentation that's been done, they've learned the human mind and human psychology and how to affect human consciousness on a scale that's unfathomable for most people.

13:06They were experimenting with that for years, 60s, 70s, 80s, and now I believe that it's implementation time. We're in the middle of a mass MK Ultra operation on all of humanity that involves social media, involves pharmaceuticals. It involves all the crazy information that we're being bombarded with. I think it even involves conspiracy culture and the planting of a lot of this misinformation and misdirection so that everybody's confused. Nobody really knows what's going on and you add in the pharmaceuticals and the nudges that people can receive by interacting with certain things online. That is going to cause a level of psychosis that wouldn't be here if we weren't be subjected to this level of technology and drug. So people are basically being controlled and hypnotized on a mass scale. And the moral of the whole thing, the moral of the story is that we are

14:11hyper focusing on these case by case things. And this is like another OJ Simpson thing. It's another this. It's not comparing the exact cases to that. But it's another Johnny Depp and Amber Hurd were everybody is tuning into it and watching it on TV. Meanwhile, there's mothers that kill their kids all the time, which is still fucked up. But why are those cases not publicly on TV every single day and why why they not all over the news? The thing is is like what you're exactly right. They're showing us what they want to show us because we are under their mind control game and it's like it's like a light switch. You ever see the movie the cabin in the woods? Yeah. Okay. You know, the twist of the movie, right? I'm saying it sorry. Sorry. Sorry to spoil it. It's 20 years old. But you know, long story short, there's these guys underground that are pulling all the switches and levers with a big chalkboard behind them saying who's coming out the werewolf the zombie the blah blah blah

15:12the you know guy with the chainsaw. That's what it is week by week. So yeah, they just click it on almost like rigged sports. You know, who's going to be the new talking point for the week? Oh, Buffalo. We're subjected to trauma theater. The more trauma we are subjected to, the more disincentitized we become so that they can roll up more roll out more sick and depraved behavior that we have become used to and things like the Epstein files. There's no justice being served. The people involved are still going about their everyday lives just like they were before. But we've been bombarded with Satanism and baby eating and all the horrible things that have come out of the files. There was about three days of calling for justice and now everybody's put it in the memory hole and been desensitized to all the information. So next time they are shown around of horrible things, the reaction is well, we're just ruled by Satanists. What are you going

16:16to do about it? It's just the way it is. And then everything keeps rolling right along. The operation keeps going. And it doesn't stop and it just gets worse because our compliance is, you know, what makes them stronger at it makes them keep going because then it's this weird you let the vampire in the front door because he had to ask permission. You gave the permission. Right. That's that hate to say it like we allow these things because our lives are so complicated. But that's the double edged sword as they complicate our lives. So we're compliant in the situation. You know, and I'm not saying that like, oh, you need a revolution or whatever, but you do have a, you need to have like a mental revolution of it. A first understanding that, you know, like understanding that like they're going to manipulate your mind and when you can check out of it, that's why I was able to look on this like a Lindsey Clancy trial thing I was talking about earlier because the moment it hit, I was like this flooded my algorithm overnight. But she did this

17:19three years ago, apparently three or four years ago, but it was literally one day I saw a poster two of somebody in text writing it like on Facebook or something. The next day every Instagram real everything, everything. I was like, why are men supposed to hate women all of a sudden now? Now that's not taken away what she did, but you could see the psi op immediately, at least from my perspective, you know, accountability is one of the hugeest problems that we have personal accountability, admitting our role in everything that is occurring right now. The more we have been participating with the system and feeding it and not checking out of the anti-human operations that continue to roll out, the more we're feeding that beast. And by realizing our own hand in this that we voted, we've put these people in office, we are funding all these operations with our tax dollars. We are allowing everything to happen to us. And the more we check out of it, the more we

18:26empower ourselves. And that is the answer. And that includes taking care of our own mental and emotional shit and not having to rely on daddy government and the medical system to medicate us. So we can function normally in life. And another part of that is checking out of social media as much as possible, checking out of toxic entertainment, toxic music, anything that is not benefiting you or on the other end poisoning you, leave it behind. You know, I was out on my art, me and my wife and art, you know, kids, a new land this morning and we're out cleaning shit up and just kind of checking stuff out. And you know, it's just like we were out there for what four hours or so this morning just doing stuff. And it's just man, like when you just get away from everything, it's just fucking awesome. You know, it's like you just check out of the BS of the world. And you realize that everything's kind of manufactured. And it's like I get it,

19:29everybody's on their own journey and path, like you're playing a Call of Duty game, some guys on level two, some guys on level seven or some guys, whatever, Mario or whatever. But everybody's on their own journey. But when they when they start realizing like, oh, this is all just a game, like we're being manipulated, there's something freeing about that. And then every little thing that you step away from, like I said, just walking around and trucking around by my new creek and my new pond and my new, I'm like, this is it. This is it. You know, most people are trapped in the realm of materialism and technology and they're enamored with it. They're enamored with what they have the ability to do the ease of access of everything. And unfortunately, most people will not give that up. Excuse me. And they're going to be swallowed up by the system as we become this technological slave surveillance state as that emerges. And people keep wanting that and

20:30keep participating with it. That's going to perpetuate and sustain itself. I do think there are many, many people out there like yourself, like myself that are perfectly fine with the level of technology we have right now. I think we can thrive as humans if we would just stay at this level. And if we were to be able to shift technology to where it would benefit humanity more than benefit technology in the ruling class, that would be ideal. But it's these tech, nor dork nerd psychopaths that are wanting this technology, this surveillance technology, this dark neuroscience technology, this technology of control, transhumanism, a way to upload their consciousness into different realms. Most people don't want any of that shit. That's not on their radar at all.

21:34And it never will be. Especially nowadays with our diets, we hit 35. And we're like, I feel like I'm 70. You know, it's a little bit of 700. No way. Anyways, continue. Yeah. No, it's just that, you know, they're trying to push this dystopian technology on us. Most people would be able to thrive their entire lives without going any further with the technology they have help people like myself and others would be able and probably like yourself would be able to go backwards a few decades and still thrive without any kind of technology. It's all about balance. And they have destroyed the balance in our reality a long time ago. And we're at a crossroads right now. We really have to decide what we're going to give our energy to, what we're going to interact with, what kind of technology we are going to adopt. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exama. So I get how it can still

22:37your time. But why let Exama take over when you can talk to your doctor about Epglis? Epglis, lubricism app, LBKZ. A 250 milligram per 2 milliliter injection is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms with moderate to severe Exama. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin or topicals or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglis can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Epglis. Allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. I problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer worsening eye problems, you should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Epglis. Before starting Epglis, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection, paid partnership with Lili. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Epglis and visit Epglis.com or call 1-800-LiliRX or 1-800-545-5979. Your path to pharmacy can be closer than you think. West Coast University's hybrid doctor of pharmacy program can be completed in as little as 33 months

23:38and no bachelor's degree is required to apply. If you've started pharmacy coursework elsewhere, WCU may accept eligible transfer credits to help students keep moving forward. Learn online, train hands-on at our Center for Graduate Studies in Los Angeles and prepare for real-world pharmacy practice. West Coast University, as real as it gets, visit westcoastuniversity.edu. WCU cannot guarantee employment. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your doctor about Epglis. Leverchismab LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-ml injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kg with moderate to severe Exema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin or topicals or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglis can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Epglis. Allergic reactions

24:38can occur that can be severe. I-problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems. You should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Epglis. Before starting Epglis, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Pay partnership with Lily. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Epglis and visit Epglis.com or call 1-800-LilyRX or 1-800-545-5979. AI's also add across words. It can be beneficial. I do use AI for some artwork. I've been using it in my film a little bit. It can be great for some things, but it is extremely detrimental for creativity. It's extremely detrimental for people who interact with it on a beyond a daily basis that can't answer questions without it that are forming relationships with it. Yes. The extreme. You have the data centers, which most people probably have no idea what's really happening there. I've done a few interesting shows recently with speculation that it gets wild,

25:41that some of the data centers may be housing digital avatars of every person, meaning that it's based off of not only the data that we've inputted since we had a digital fingerprint online, but because our devices are so advanced and they can listen to us and they have cameras and they most likely can read our minds. They've been gathering more than the data that you've been inputting and some would speculate. My friend Wayne Stiger, who I had on the other day, he believes that there are real-time digital avatars of ourselves that are in this digital realm, having this same conversation that you and I are having in real time because they have enough information to model our behavior to where they can predict basically everything that we're doing and they use that to influence us and give us suggestions online. Yeah. Show us things. It's

26:42fucking wild if that's true. That could okay. You know what? I can actually run with that for a minute because I do like you know, it's what's he saying on Django de Caprio. First you had my curiosity, my full undivided attention, you know, it's like, well, I like that idea because it goes to the argument of like what is an algorithm? If we know AI is possibly sentient or is becoming sentient or whatever at this point in shit, you know, everything's going to progress. So if it hasn't already, it's going to inevitably, but you're like, well, what is an algorithm? What feeds you that? And so what if it was almost like that's almost kind of describing like a shadow cell for something, you know what I'm kind of saying? It's like, you know, you know what I mean? Like, that's why I was like, hmm, I can, you know, I don't know if that necessarily there's an answer to that, but I'm like, well, to take it even further, like a mirror world, like looking in the mirror and the you yourself in the mirror starts moving differently than the you that's standing in front of

27:44you know, it's just a digital you that is living its digital life based on all the information it's ever gathered from you and read your mind and done it pictures of you and listen to when you go left, it goes right or I could be whatever it could be an upside down realm. Yeah, yeah, to take it even further, he believes they want to eventually merge these rooms. That's what the transhumanists want is us to be able to merge with that other self and be able to live that in that digital realm somehow. But then that gets into like, you know, creating the matrix. Eventually you'll be laying in the pod, living out a fantasy realm or I mean, Truman on the Truman show at least got to walk around with this physical self, even though everything was a lie, but you know, yeah, it's it's weird because we we're living in this thing right now where everybody's divided over these tiny little petty bullshit things and we're in America where we're supposed to our voices heard are, you know, our vote is supposed to count and all of these things. But meanwhile,

28:46there's people getting arrested for just speaking their opinions, not even being as obstructive or anything at these town hall meetings for data centers. There's one that they're building in the town that I live in now that people have been showing up in mass amounts to protest, not protest, but going to the town hall meetings with actual real information, not just screaming like red necks or anything, but we're supposed to say to you in I'm in Oklahoma. Okay. And so I live in old Morghe, Oklahoma, which is like about an hourish less than an hour south from Tulsa. But my point is is we're supposed to have our voice be heard. That's what these town hall meetings and things are for. That's what our vote is supposed to be for. And we're seeing this technocratic state being just ushered in no matter what. And then now you've still got I hate to say it, but there's a lot of boomers that are used the argument of like, well, it's stuck, you know, flock cameras stop getting kid child trafficking and this and that. But then you're like, well, then wire crime just

29:50as big in the places has the most flock cameras. But now they're saying, well, we're going to start kicking back the flock cameras, but they're just switching to another brand, the axon brand, which is what most states have been using for their body cams. So it's just a bait and switch, man. Like people are just falling for it. And before we know it, I mean, we're already in 1984, basically. Yeah. What I am hoping is that what we're seeing online and on the news is primarily illusion, which it most likely is probably at what's portrayed is theater from the people that I talk to myself in my own life, going to the grocery store going outside my friends and family. Nobody is down with the flock cameras. Nobody's down with this surveillance state. There seems to be a pushback that is beyond anything I've seen recently as far as the totalitarian ism going back to people pushing back against COVID. I think that there is going to be a difficult

30:53time for the ruling class and the technocrats to implement this these flock cameras and these surveillance technology, even if they try and rebrand it, there are a lot of cases going to the Supreme Court that we're not hearing about that are being suppressed online. And you're not going to hear about it on social media, but there's a lot of legal things going on behind the scenes. Now we have to hope that the Supreme Court would do the right thing. And that's a whole another illusionary system right there. But the fact that so many people are against it and it's most likely all they have is the illusionary nonsense that they're portraying online to solidify the the, you know, their ability to get these cameras out there. So that gives me hope that there's a lot of people that just aren't down with this these cameras and surveillance shit. And then exactly and then that's the funny thing is like we always talk about the uniparty and politics that controls us. It's like, oh, it doesn't matter every four years,

31:58blah, blah, blah, half the same policies still get enacted. But then we're going to see in like, you know, a lot of people are coming together on this thing on surveillance state, especially, I mean, like I said, maybe 50 and under are kind of realizing it because they're looking back when they were younger and seeing what happened post a Patriot Act, right? And we're like, whoa, now that knowing what we know about the Patriot Act, this is, this is a comic book compared to the 900 page novel that this new surveillance technocratic state is going to come into. So, you know, they're kind of bucking the system, but it's kind of beautiful in a way that left and right are kind of coming together on this idea, maybe for different reasons, but if we can come together regardless, that's pretty fucking cool. But it is there's there's something about it, like they want us just be angry about everything. But I'm glad that people are coming together on, we don't need to be under constant surveillance. Yeah. The surveillance is a small part of everything

33:04that they are trying to implement right now. I think the AI data centers are connected with everything. I think we just talked about is a huge part of it if that is the data go to the data center. Yes. Yeah. If they are building that information, I think that's linked to the other things that are unfolding right now, even with Iran, with the the war in Iran and what's happening with Israel right now. Where the FSTFiles in a data center. There's an end times narrative on top of everything else that is being manufactured. I think that there is a desire to to get people to dislike and hate Israel enough so where they can fulfill this insane prophecy of their new Messiah and bring about the end times. Now, I think there's

34:04different factions at play. I think that there's really religious fanatic factions that have a lot of power that are attempting to bring this on. But I think the technocrats are using them to achieve their goals. They're using these religious fanatics in the Israel situation. To take down the entire system so that they can rebuild it with this technological state. I think that's what the the new temple is supposed to be. And then like a Pete Hegsseth Usher and like the military might into the conversation too. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. On top of that, there's the UFO extraterrestrial narrative. Now, this I think coincides with the end times narrative, with the data centers, with everything. They're going to slowly implement a narrative, either that we have a new unseen enemy that we need to be protected from. And daddy government is the only ones that can do it. And this surveillance state is necessary because we got to fight the aliens.

35:08Or the other hand, they could be our saviors. There's two different narratives even coming from within government. They're here to save us. And you know, that could go in many different directions. But I think it's the the latter. I think that they're going to portray it as a threat so that they could use the surveillance state to protect us from the incoming extraterrestrials. And it's all part of this technological surveillance state narrative. I don't think we're really in the end times. I think this is all being manufactured. Yes. So many things. And then the first thing I want to say is like even like Ronald Reagan, you know, was famous for speaking about, you know, a global threat that brings us all together and everything. And then the in my opinion, the greatest fictional presidential speech of all time is Bill Pullman at the end of Independence Day when he's somehow, we didn't go quietly to the night and blah, blah, blah, you know, that that's a fantastic rally speech. But it's also weirdly prepping you with Hollywood slop to make you think that one day

36:13because that's just less than a decade after Reagan said it that, oh, now it's in fiction at this point. But Reagan's already talking about Star Wars. So that's already been in fiction. It's this big narrative that they're playing with like space, whether it's faking gay or whether it's completely real and we don't know what it is, whatever, whether it's the technocratic state, it's all these things right now converging at once. And I think that's what people are weirdly like everybody's noticing, even if you're deep into the weeds, you're deeper than me, but you know, guys like you and me and stuff, like we're deeper into the weeds than this than most normies. But even normies are like, why is technology taking over everything right now? And you're like, yes, because this is the next chapter in the book, whether we like it or not. And we're kind of been in over and taking it right now. Profitball is back. Kick off the season by trading your predictions on CalShe. America's number one prediction market platform Detroit is at 39% to beat Buffalo. So a hundred dollar trade pays out to 45 with a win. Trade in a live market with

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38:18delivery add-ons, taxes and fees for delivery additional. I think it's also we can circle back from the UFO disclosure narrative back to MK Ultra. Huge connection there. I think from the beginning, the UFO abduction narrative. There has been abductions that have been staged by our military industrial complex. There have been narratives put forward. There have been people inserted into ufology to perpetuate this narrative. But the MK Ultra thing gets deep. I've interviewed plenty of MK Ultra victims and people who have claimed to have been secret space soldiers and super soldiers and all that wild stuff. That's all connected to MK Ultra, I believe. I think it used to be that some of these people were physically taken. Usually people in the military are from intelligence families. They have that connection. They were taken to facilities. They were experimented on. They were drugged. Depending on the outcome, if they wanted to be

39:21a honey sex pot or an assassin or even a politician or a music store or a rock store, they did it all. They groomed them all. But there's also this faction, the secret space program faction that abducted people and staged abductions. They would hypnotize them to believe that they were fighting aliens in a different realms. They drug them and take them to meet aliens. All the weird abduction, secret space, military abduction stuff that you hear about. It's all connected. It was all part of the MK Ultra to learn how to integrate the fake alien thing that they're coming up with into our reality in a believable way. What better way than to plant real abductions out there to perpetuate abductions and have the people believe that they were really happening to where they go out on a conference tour and they're talking about it and they're writing books

40:21and they're making movies and they're... They're so serious about it and they really believe it happened. So it perpetuates the UFO narrative. That's not to say that there's not aliens out there. I don't really align with the little green men coming from different planets. If there is other intelligences, I would think that they are non-physical or interdimensional type of spiritual intelligences that can interact with us in some ways. I think that's a part of it. That's also a part of the stranger side of even what they were doing with MK Ultra. They were getting people to astral project. They were getting people to time travel. I think that they were even getting people to have the ability to interact with non-human entities with whatever you want to call them demons or spirits. That was all part of the program as well. So it went from dark neuroscience

41:22to establishing UFO narratives, grooming celebrities and politicians and also the weird, occult, magical crazy stuff. Yes, muses, voices, downloads, all the above. You and me are both musicians. There's times where I can just pick up a guitar or a bass guitar or whatever and then I'm just kind of noodle along and then you're like, whoa, shit, what I just do? That's fucking cool. You do it again. You're like, that's a cool real thing. I didn't even mean to do that. You're like, you know, we're not saying just in the simplistic form. People talk about downloads where they just all of a sudden can write a book out of no, I'm not saying that's the same equivalent. But there's times where people can just tap into different things, right? But then there's other times where do they have the technology to do that to you? Meaning, if they've groomed you, obviously they can tap into your brain and some kind of subliminal things or things like that. And so, you know, I'm curious as we're talking about like, abductions and stuff like that. And then

42:25also it's like false flag abductions. Where do you stand on Travis Walton? Because we all saw the Hollywood movie in the 90s. You and me are close in same age of a fire in the sky. And then, you know, obviously there's Hollywood dramatization of that and everything. But in a weird way, his story is kind of crazier than the movie, in my opinion. This is where I get frustrated with the whole UFO extraterrestrial narrative because there, I think there is a genuine phenomena that's not linked to our military. That's not linked to MK Altru that people experience some extremely high-strangeness things that cannot be explained. And I consider several theories behind, you know, real abduction or contact experiences. People being taken from their homes, levitated through a wall, put on a ship. Real aliens are, you know, working on them. They have mantis beings and all these non-human beings. And I think that

43:28may occur outside of a military abduction space. But what I see happening is it is extremely similar. And there's a lot of crossover with people's sleep paralysis and out-of-body experiences. Also near-death experiences, dream states. I think there's an overlap between all of these things. And what could be occurring is these people are having out-of-body experiences, astral experiences where they are reaching another layer of reality where these intelligences roam. These intelligences can reside. And the intelligences may be able to manipulate that reality in a metaphysical, as peers, whatever they want to in that reality. And because the UFO narrative has been planted in the human consciousness, I believe this is also the human-imagine realm where aggregors and our thoughts can take on lives of their own. So if you combine that with the intelligences that may reside there already and they're taking advantage of our imagination and

44:33things that have been planted in the human psyche, well, aliens started to get planted in there. Let's take advantage of that. Now we're aliens and we're going to mess with people's minds as aliens. And it could be just this proto-intelligence that has always been there that knows how to manipulate us, knows how to appear as different things. And some people will call them demons. I think that's an oversimplification. I think these beings have different agendas. Some may have more better interests in humans than others, meaning that they may not be as malevolent as others. But I do believe they're all tricksters in some way and they all have the ability to mess with us. And that is what is happening with many people's abductions and spiritual experiences. That's just my theory. Yeah, kind of like almost like snakes. There's different types of snakes, right? But everybody kind of has this weird fear of snakes. And it's like, okay, if I see a cotton mouth or something like that, then I'm going to know this is going to be an aggressive son of bitch. So

45:34that's just going to either stay away from him or if he tries to attack me, I'm going to shoot him. But then if you see a king snake, I'm like, okay, well, this guy is going to maybe do some snake shit if he needs to do some snake shit. But as long as I'm cool and he's cool, he's cool. You know, so it's it's this weird thing of like the idea of every idea of aliens now is demons because now you get JD Vance putting it out in the zeitgeist. And it's like they're trying to add this new biblical context like you were alluding too early or about this whole self fulfilling prophecy with Israel and everything. All alignment with Israel, not just as homies and allies, but now like literally legally, you know, whatever the new bill was. That was a couple of weeks ago with aligned us with their military forces. There's just there's too many things going on that are almost there's they're almost so obvious and obnoxious. But there's still a lot of people that are just like in this hypnosis, like a psychosis or something. But I don't know man, like I think with aliens back

46:37to that, I think there's a lot of stuff that's unexplainable. I think there's probably stuff from here physical, but you brought up a great point of the idea of what our what our brain is like meaning Thomas paranoid American. Okay, he's been on here multiple times. I like his analysis where I think what they're going to do with aliens is whatever kind of like spirituality or thing you focus on. That's what they're going to kind of run with on it. Meaning if you're a Hindu, it might be some God coming down for you. If you're a Christian, it might be a demon. If you're some technocrat, it's going to be I don't know terminator coming to save you or some I don't know, but you get what I'm saying? Like, well, they're implanting the types right now. Yes, they are types. The well, our government is admitting and members of whistleblowers and certain people are coming forward and saying that we have non-human biologics quote unquote in captivity that we have these alien bodies. On top of that, they're claiming that there's three or four known species, the reptilian, the mantid,

47:43the gray. So they've already started laying the framework for what we're going to be interacting with because that's coming from somewhat official sources, right? Right. And that's the scary part about it is that how many damn times do we need to be lied to? It's like, I'm wearing my, you know, triple e nasty shirt for the Thanasel logo. You know, it's like space, faking gay or whatever, whatever it is. But at the end of the day, like, we're lied to about COVID, we're lied to about JFK, we're lied to about 9 11, we're lied to about Democrats and Republicans and this, that other side off and whatever situation happens, we're lied to about all of history, but the one time the government tells you the truth is about space, which is NASA. And you're like, are you that, like, do you love Buzz Lightyear? That fucking much that like you're a kid world where, and when I was a kid, I was super into space and I'm still interested in the idea of it, but I think the space is different than what we're told. But if we don't believe regular narratives

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49:50Pro football is back. Kick off the season by trading your predictions on Calche. America's number one prediction market platform. Detroit is at 39% to beat Buffalo. So $100 trade pays out $2.45 with a win. Trade in a live market with no house or odds makers. And move in and out of your position until the final whistle. Download the Calche app and use code heart to get $25 when you trade $25. 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility apply. Trading and false risk, not available in all jurisdictions. Prices, values and markets may differ from those mentioned. For more, see Calche.com slash regulatory. Calche, trade on anything. There's also another weird connection emerging. And I couldn't tell you 100% if it's connected with an aferious agenda are part of the emerging state of consciousness that humans are at. The psychedelic emergence, the popularization and re-emergence of different psychedelics. There's some really promising studies with people with Alzheimer's, seniors. There's some great benefits that are going on. I've had amazing benefits with psychedelics. I've had incredible

50:54experiences. There's also the DMTX experiments, which connect with extraterrestrials because people are being put in these extended states with the IV drip DMT. And they're coming into contact with mantis beings and graze and extraterrestrials. And even more interestingly, they're being kicked out sometimes of the DMT realm and not allowed back in. Meaning they're not even high on DMT anymore. It's impossible for them to get high on DMT for an extended period of time sometimes. But they're coming into contact with these beings. Now these beings overlap with everything that we have been talking about. I've had experiences with what seems to be non-human beings during some profound psychedelic experiences. So this is emerging right now, the new popularization.

51:55And people have experiences with non-human beings. Is it either the kind of connection or merging of the non-physical realm with our realm in a way that is kind of bridging the gap with psychedelics, like, say, magic mushrooms? It is a natural way of reawakening our spiritual senses, getting us reconnected with the other side because it's inevitable that we're going to eventually make contact with something again. So it's the natural way of reintroducing itself to us. Or is it the deep state trying to make synthetics like a delix and synthesize this and turn it into something that is extremely negative for us and use them against us in some way? I think the answer is, the answer is both really, I think. Both are most likely could be happening at the same time.

53:00Well, and then, okay, my schizo brains jumping into like, okay, what if they allow us to do these things to let our consciousness expand to whatever realms they want us to, even though they hate us, and they want to kill us and they eat our babies, right? But they're using and they're farming us, and they're jacking our illusion, where Neo and the Matrix were batteries, right? So they're using our energy in this situation to allow us to open our mind with psychedelics in this hypothetical, right? But then what if that goes back to your point earlier about the data centers and then kind of the mirror self of you in a way? What if they're harnessing that energy of your thoughts, and you don't even know it, you're we're scared about neuralink and everything else. Meanwhile, how many times do you think about something and it fucking pops up on your algorithm? What if your algorithm already knows your thoughts and it's using them against you so you open your thoughts and then it's almost feeding this machine even more. That's my schizo rant. But dude,

54:04hypothetically, like, that we fucking terrifying. I forget who the guest was, while back speculated that if a person is having a psychedelic experience, no matter what the substance is, that they are, not only amitting a frequency, but they're receiving one. And if the dark side, the military industrial CIA, these shadowy factions have the ability to influence frequencies, to influence our thoughts through these frequencies, to hijack them in a sense, who's to say that they aren't able to know when someone's having that experience and hijack that experience and guide them to have certain things happen, profound things within that experience that then change their trajectory in life. It's a wild thing, but I was completely possible with everything else I know. You've heard about

55:07the Camelio story? Possibly. That sounds familiar. So me and the listeners. Robert Guffy, great author wrote this book called Camelio, and it's about his personal experiences with this guy. I think it was the early 2000s. We'll call him Larry, because I don't remember the guy's name, but Larry is a loser heroin addict. And he is at a party one night. There's a bunch of people there, and he comes in a room, and there's this guy in army fatigues, and he's holding these technological weird goggles, and he's passing them around. So he passes them to Larry, and he's like, you know, kind of stone. He's like, whatever man, and he just passes them back. Didn't think about it anymore. The next day, these men in black are knocking on Larry's door. And he's like, what's up, man? He's like, they said, just give us back the goggles, and we'll believe you alone. There

56:12won't be no more consequences. And he's like, what? What goggles? I didn't ever have the goggles. You know, this other guy had him. Next thing, he knows over the next few days, he's being gangstalked, he's being harassed, he's getting these strange phone calls. People are following him. So apparently this faction, whatever the shadowy military faction is, decided to use Larry as an experiment for their new upcoming exotic technology. So what started happening is he started having these weird UFO drones fly over his house. He'd start having abduction experiences. He'd be drugged in the middle of the night and be taken to different locations and different things would happen to him. He'd have people break into his house. At one point, they sent these literal little people midgets into his house wearing invisibility cloaks. And they would move stuff around. So he thought

57:12he'd have poltergeys. That's how wild the harassment got with this guy. But they were using exotic technology, beaming thoughts into his mind. He would look out his window and he'd see this planetary like landscape different than he's ever seen. He'd go outside and look and it just be his normal, you know, outside front. Now that's commonplace to make drone artwork in the sky. So it's crazy. It was most likely an early experiment for a lot of the stuff that we may even see implemented even more into our society. And it's not like it's being used in warfare against our enemies abroad. They're using that shit on us. That's a scariest part. And it's almost like, you know, not to sound like a bitch, but it's like, why? Like what the fuck did we do, man? Like, we built this country. Like we pay our taxes. We, you know, we don't, most of us don't kill our kids. You know, we go to work. We do everything. You know, believe the Texas, they build the roads and

58:14this net, whatever, we do our part. Why are we being just used like guinea pigs? Like our government, I mean, like we can go for story after story on Tuskegee experiment experiments or even the COVID thing or whatever. It's like, that's what even that. No, I said he was using his people as the freaking guinea pig in an old speech, you know, like for COVID vaccines. It's like, do people not realize at this point, you know, these people that are humanitarians, they're using as a guys to just freely experiment on us. That's why it's so easy for us to look at the ruling class and believe that they are possibly not humans that there are reptilians. It's very difficult to understand that kind of behavior if you're not a complete psychopath. But what happens is this is multi-generational psychopath creation going back to MK Ultra, these very wealthy and powerful families. They put these kids, their own kids into these programs from a very young age and they

59:19groom them. They groom them to be psychopaths so that they can carry the torch of whatever corporation, you know, secret society, whatever that they're involved with. And they guarantee to carry on that power in psychopathy throughout the generation. So it's just multi-generational breeding to ensure that, you know, that's what we're dealing with. And they're on a whole different level. We're seen as cattle. We're seen as, you know, just fodder. William, or golem. But they're goi boys. Yeah. So, you know, it's difficult to understand that kind of mentality because we'll never be in that space, we'll never be in that club. And, you know, most people will never have that psychotic streak so they it's difficult to understand what they really think about us. Well, I was saying even in the beginning, you know, it's like,

1:00:22I'm glad it's like you kind of said it just now too. Like we're, we'll never be in that club, but I'm glad we're not in that club. You know, like I said, walking around, walking around my land today, like I wasn't, I mean, I was taking pinch hits with my dugout, but I'm fucking walking around with a pistol in my back pocket, my boots on and I'm trucking through and we're fucking brush hogging and shit. And I'm like, your path to pharmacy can be closer than you think. West Coast University's hybrid doctor of pharmacy program can be completed in as little as 33 months and no bachelor's degree is required to apply. If you've started pharmacy coursework elsewhere, WCU may accept eligible transfer credits to help students keep moving forward. Learn online, train hands on at our Center for Graduate Studies in Los Angeles and prepare for real world pharmacy practice. West Coast University, as real as it gets, visit westcoastuniversity.edu. WCU cannot guarantee employment. Profitball is back. Kick off the season by trading your predictions on CalShi. America's number one prediction market platform. Detroit is at 39% to be buffalo, so a $100

1:01:24trade pays out $2.45 with a win. Trade in a live market with no house or odds makers. And move in and out of your position until the final whistle. Download the CalShi app and use code heart to get $25 when you trade $25. 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility apply. Trading and false risk, not available in all jurisdictions. Price and values and markets may differ from those mentioned for more see CalShi.com slash regulatory. CalShi, trade on anything. I'm saying that that's a good psychosis to be in a bit of a way to just to be the freeing and hear the birds and the bullshit. But it's weird that like we are not in that same realm of even thought process of these leaders. These you know, it's like the little things are cool to most

1:02:28goyum where it's like, oh, go get your Starbucks cappuccino. And if that's what makes you happy, that's what makes you happy. Fine. Okay. You know me trucking around stone in the woods this morning. That's what made me happy, right? But they can't take your happiness completely away as long as you still kind of hold on to it. No, it's still there. And that's what the sad part is is it's like getting to where they're they're diminishing it. Like it almost like a video game where your health bars you went on farther levels into the game as you progressed more like Metal Gear Solid or something. Your health bar increases throughout the game. They're almost like sucking our like energy in our love away every progression. You get what I'm saying? They live almost in a completely different reality in a sense that they're not even breathing the same air we are. They're not taking the same flights. They're not using the same transportation. They're not going get a burger on the corner. They're not going to even to the same fanciest restaurant that you could

1:03:31ever imagine. They're getting private flights. They have their private chefs. They're going to private locations so that they don't have to see the useless eaters. They live in a completely different reality where they don't even have to interact with us. They don't have to ingest the same things that we are the same poisons, the same influences. They have their own complete bubble. And they see us as like insects compared to what they have the ability and what they have access to. It is. It's gross. And it's perverse in a way because you're right. It's like the fact is triple. He talks about protected classes all the time and stuff. No more protected classes. They live in this gated community whether a real gate or a mental gate of whether what is real and what is reality. And it's sad and it really is sick because most of those ones are the ones that make the decisions for us. They don't even live in the same world or realm that we live in.

1:04:36And we have to live up to their their thoughts and their bills and everything else they sign for us. And then once in a while we get a little bit of a hope where it seems like, hey, Thomas Massey saying all the right things kind of like Ron Paul did and then they're like, no, fuck you. We're going to kneecap your ass and you're out of Congress. You know, it's like, bro, like it's like the I think the the Wizard of Oz. I almost always end with a lot of Wizard of Oz references. But it's, you know, I make it a little more crude. But let's just say, you know, total of the dog pulls back the curtain and the big badass military government or, you know, American government that we think it is is just ran by what is not even Trump. Whatever guy is in office is the little midget putting on the big projection, you know, and and when we realize and it's all faking gay and it's getting to almost this is the black pill part, almost a critical mass because yes, when everybody realizes

1:05:37it's fake and bullshit like the ones that actually stand for us are just getting thrown millions and millions of dollars at them by fucking Israel money and everything. Anytime somebody brings up dual citizenship, you get thrown at, oh, anti-Semitism or this and that like, but you can be dual citizenship with Israel. I mean, Italy or any other country and that's not a problem. But my point is is like, we are realizing too much right now, whether for good or bad in a way like it's kind of going to be like a critical mass moment. Like, I hope it's a moment of love in this whole rant, but fuck, I don't know, it could be catastrophic. Yeah, man, we're at a crossroads. We've got to stop feeding the beast. We've got to choose what we're going to interact with, what we're going to give our energy and attention to. And it's not going to be easy. There's going to be a lot of sacrifices that a lot of people have to make if we would ever want any significant changes to

1:06:39happen. But knowing that most people will never make those steps, you just got to take those steps on your own, do the best you can in your own little lives and take care of your family and be the best little person that you could be and try and just check out of the nonsense as much as possible, don't interact with things that aren't benefiting you and really don't worry about what everybody else is doing because right now that really doesn't matter anyway. Man, I think that's perfect. You know, because, no, man, really, it is, it is perfect because whether you want to get into the woo woo or not or energy, it's like wherever you put it is what you're going to get kind of thing. So if you in hyper invest next thing, you know, you're out there wearing the pink pussy hat scream I stand with Lindsay, you know, meanwhile this lady is saying on the stand, I killed my three kids. You know, it's like whether the psychosis or not, you're defending the fact that well, she was under stress and my point is, is this like where you direct your energy, turn off fucking tick talk.

1:07:46Definitely turn off tick talk. I still have a tick talk, yeah, but I never use it. But turn it off, man, like turn all the ins, X is another one that I never get on because it's toxic dude. I'll jump on there once a month and I'm like, maybe I should start posting more shit on X and I'm like five minutes and I'm like, that's enough for me. I'm done with this, you know, but we need to direct our energy in a better places. And if that means focusing on ourselves, which should be the number one, don't worry about your neighbor if you can't take care of your own household first, right? But man, Chris, this was a great episode because you're very open minded. I love listening to you. So I love everything you do for everybody that you do work with as well with the forbidden knowledge network, which is awesome. Like you get your own kind of umbrella corporation. Not a shady one. And I know, but man, I love talking to you. I love listening to you. We'll do this again for sure. Remind everybody where they can find you and everything you got going on. And when you're new documentary is coming out. Yes, sir. Thank you again. This was such a fun

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1:09:50in the description. That would be amazing. You guys can message me all links. I'll put everything you want on there. Perfect. And that is it. Derek, thank you so much, man. Looking for sure next time. I guess I love listening to you. Love talking to you. Love figuring mine. I'm a little jump all over the place kind of guy and I'm glad you can keep up with it. And you're experiencing enough to kind of, you know, handle these conversations. So anyways, man, I'd love to one day. Let's fucking meet up and trip some mushrooms together. Some time. Good old time. Let's open our own doors or perception, brother. Well, hey, said heads. Chris Matthew, check him out on everything in the show notes. And he's awesome. Love talking to him. And I'll see you guys next time. Peace out. Bye bye. Let me hit this stupid button. Hey guys, I want to reintroduce you all to C60 power. C60 is a super antioxidant. It works at the cellular level to neutralize oxidative stress and free radicals. It promotes a healthy inflammatory response, a balanced immune and histamine

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