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508, Jeff, I can't believe you're falling for Trump's, I can't say this bull BS bullcrap. We're supposed to be the party of fiscal discipline and balanced budgets. This is something a Democrat would propose. So you want Trump to be Santa Claus and hand out, sorry, and give government handouts. Boy, the Republican party under Trump has changed and for the worse. Well, you know, look again, back, I mean, I don't want to keep repeating myself, but when have we had a balanced budget? When have we ever cut spending? I mean, Trump is the only one with doge who's trying to actually cut departments, cut spending, cut waste, cut for, cut fraud and look at the ferocious opposition he faced from Democrats, from the media and from all these rhinos.
So you know, I don't know what we're arguing about. When was the last time we had a balanced budget? I think what, 25 years, 26 years. So that's number one, number two. Why is it? I mean, I don't want to, you know, keep hammering it, you know, hammering this point, you know, it's like hitting, you know, hammering a dead horse, but a $5,000 dividend check. And suddenly now the sky is falling. So if Trump passed a $5,000 tax cut, of course Republicans would be for it. But if you pass is a one time $5,000 dividend check, suddenly we're Santa Claus. Suddenly it's quote a government handout. It's not a government handout. It's our money. We're just getting some of it back. Why can't we get a little bit of our own money back? We're already over tax to begin with.
So of course we're entitled to some of our own money coming back. I agree, disagree. George in Tonton. Thanks for holding George and welcome. Good morning, Jeff. Hi, George. It's been quite a while since I called you. I don't call you twice, but every now and then I hear something that triggers me and I just have to call. This is for those people who are calling Trump, Santa Claus. Joe Biden was the biggest Santa Claus that Ukrainian people have ever seen. For years and years and years, he sent tons and tons of money, billions of dollars that could have gone to help the American people. Joe Biden could have been our Santa Claus. He could have turned the economy around. He could have made this a much better country. And he might have been reelected if he had. But not one word for many of these people about the trillions of dollars being sent right
on a regular basis to the Ukraine so that they can pay their government officials, pay checks, whatever and feel a little bit here and there. That's okay. But $5,000 to the people who put into the system, they can't get anything back. And these people like Mora Healey and the mayor, their name is Gismin Al. Michelle Wu, a mayor, Michelle Wu. Exactly. That's the one. Okay. It's okay to give the kitchen, let the cats, so the store, to imagine if Democrats were in a store, this is just an analogy. If they were in a store and you went shopping and you're noticing that there's people walking out the store with full carts of food and whatever they need. But you're not allowed to because you have to pay for your food. And if you attempt to go out of that store, like the other people, they will call the cops on you for shoplifting, which would be the IRS or whatever, as the analogy goes.
These people do not give a damn about the American people. They care only about other countries, liberalism, all this stuff. And that's what triggered me, Jeff. I have to call. It's been a while since I spoke with you. But like I said, every now and then something just clicks and I've got to put it in. Not just 100, you're a thousand percent correct. More a healy in this state and Michelle Wu, okay, since you know, Jacob made the point. Please, Jeff name names. Let me name him. More a healy and Michelle Wu. And by the way, Mamdani and Holkler are doing the exact same thing in New York, okay? But three thousand dollars a month, what five thousand dollars one time, three thousand dollars a month, to every illegal alien family cash. Cash, you mentioned Ukraine, you're a thousand percent correct. Forget Ukraine for a second here. Three thousand dollars cash to every legal alien. This episode sponsored by Homebase.
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Take it to the bank. He will, they will pass a law that will issue a $5,000 dividend check to every adult American citizen. You're 18 years and older. You're going to get a $5,000 check upon proof of citizenship. And as Trump said, this election, we are facing tough headwinds. The party that's out of power normally always wins in a midterm election. But the problem this time is if the Democrats win communism, socialism, the radical left will seize power and this will undercut and cripple the United States. Right as we hit or just after we hit our 250th anniversary. And so as he put it, we have to stop the communists at all costs and I'm trying to give
everybody now the mother of all incentives. Come out and vote not just to stop the radical Democrats and the communists, but to put some actual real money in your pocket. Roll cut 83 B Mike. All right. So we're having some technical issues. Okay. Basically, what he said is these, it's an immense challenge. It's very hard for a sitting president to win a midterm election. It's only been done twice. As I mentioned, George W Bush in 2002, right after the 9-11 terrorist attacks and Franklin Roosevelt in 1934 in the midst of the Great Depression. But he says this is such an historic election because of the stakes, because of what the Democrats have now become. The pundits, the fake news media, the radical left communists will say anything they can to
try and stop us. But in this election, all that matters is that we are united, we are there. And what we say counts, that's all that matters. And on November 3rd, the Great American majority is going to stand up and continue to make America great again. And we will make our voices heard, perhaps like never before. That's the beautiful challenge that the midterms are not supposed to be won by the sitting president. And we're going to change that and we'll make it an even more important time in our country and presidency. It'll be something very special. We have to do it. You better believe it. We have to do it. Agree, disagree. Mary in Chemesford. Thanks for holding Mary and welcome. Hi, Mary. I want to sit down and jump on here.
First of all, what President Trump is doing, I think it's just fantastic, especially for all these things to be illegal. And it really burns me. And I see, I actually, I can tell you the other day, I said, you know, I'm going to see
what it's like to sign up for some food stamps. I got a guy on the other set. I don't think that you should even try this right now. You make too much money. And I think you would probably look at $12 a month. And I wanted to just bring because this is just how twisted everything is. You know, just curious to get your thoughts on that. Well, look, Mary, to me, this is what I find so upsetting. Had you called up and said your name is not Mary, but I don't know, Maria, and you claim you're from some third world country. And you said, I'm an illegal alien or sorry, non-documented immigrant. So you call up and you say, you know, I'm non-documented. Can I get food stamps? They'd sign you up for the whole thing. What $12 a month, you would get the whole, the whole insulata.
You'd get, I mean, you would literally be able to go and fill up two carts of food every week because I see it in my grocery store. They're illegals. They're obviously illegals. And I mean, I can't, I mean, I mean, they got everything. They buy meat, they buy chicken, they buy pork, they buy milk, toast, I mean, bread, forgive me, fruits, vegetables, junk food. Everything under the sun, it's two carts. I'm like, who can eat this? And it's depressing. And either they roll out that eb-t card or they roll out those food stamps, you know, WIC. So this is what's so upsetting. And look, Maria, sorry, Mary, I don't want to just keep throwing stats at people because after a while, numbers just become numbing, you know, they have no effect on people. More Healy and Michelle Wu in this state, just for apartments and furniture. Thirty thousand dollars.
Thirty thousand dollars per illegal alien family. Not five thousand one time check. Thirty thousand constantly renewed to pay for their rent, to pay for their freaking couch, to pay for their flat screen television. So you don't forget your 12 bucks a month for food. When was the last time, Mary, that the government came to you and said, you know what, Mary, we're going to pay your rent. Not all year, every year, just one month. When was the last time? When was the last time, Mary, they said, you know what, you work so freaking hard, Mary, why don't we get you a nice leather sofa or a nice leather chair so you can relax and put your feet up at the end of a hard day? Let's get you a nice Mike. What's a big size television now? Because I was going to say 30 inch, but I think 30 inches small now.
Okay, 30 inches tiny. Okay, he's laughing. He's laughing. So what, 50 inch? Is that what people get now? Even that small. Okay. All right. They're huge now. Okay, 60 inch. All right, forgive me, Mike. So Mary, a 60 inch, FOT screen television. When was the last time they said, you know what, Mary, relax when you come home, watch your favorite show, put your feet up. We're going to buy you a nice 60 inch flat screen television. When was the last time that happened, Mary? I'm just curious. Never, never, never. And, you know, I think it's time for more of me to read Michelle Woon to just go pound the fan. It doesn't affect them, Jeff. And therefore, they are more inclined to helping those that are coming into our country because they can manipulate them. They can get them to do what they want.
And there's no other word for it. It's a shame. An absolute shame. And, you know, it doesn't make me want to work any less. It makes me want to work harder. Something should do. Something should absolutely get me. Oh, I agree. Mary, I agree. And please, don't be a stranger. Call again, because that was an excellent call. No, they've been, they're robbing us. It's theft. They've been, and by the way, the reason why they're giving all this money to illegals is for votes. Votes and more representation in Congress because they manipulate the census. Okay. So it's, it's for multiple reasons. That's their voting base. Everybody knows if the Eagles are voting. They're voting. I mean, that's, that's why the Democrats know they have almost have infinite supply of voters because they can call upon illegals. So steal our money, bribe illegals. That's why it's a sanctuary, Boston's a sanctuary city.
Massachusetts is a sanctuary state, like all these other blue states with our money. And that's how they perpetuate the Democrats in power. And Trump comes along and notice what the proposal is. It's for American citizens, IE, it's not going to go to the illegals. And B, it's basically for taxpayers. Yeah, that's, you know, the Democrats, well, that's, that doesn't, that's not most of their base. So that's why they're dead set against it. And look, let me state the quiet part out loud. Okay, if no one else has the guts to say it, I'm going to say it. The Democrats hate and the media hate this proposal. You know why? Because five thousand bucks for every adult citizen, especially a taxpayer, is $5,000 less that they could give to illegal aliens and their welfare deadbeats.
Six, one, seven, two, six, six, six, 68, 68 is the number. Okay, my friends, one of the things, there's many things, as you know, the Democrats are running on this November. They want to abolish the border. They want to abolish ICE. They want to defund the police. Eventually, they want to abolish the police. They want to abolish prisons. I could go on and on. The Democratic Socialists of America actually say they want to eliminate the Senate. They want to pack the Supreme Court or maybe even eliminate the Supreme Court. And they eventually want to get rid of the presidency itself. That's what the Mamdani AOC Bernie Sanders Democrats, Abdul El-Sayed is running on that in Michigan. I could go on and on. Now, by the way, they also now believe in seizing private property. In fact, the main Democrat Senate candidate, I'll play the cut a bit later, now is openly
calling for the seizure of private property. So you're looking at communism. But one of their key planks that they're going to be running on, and this goes to the heart of their hypocrisy on this issue regarding Trump and a $5,000 dividend check to every American adult citizen. Is there running on Medicare for all? Should they sweep back to power? They want to completely transform and alter our entire private healthcare system, which by the way is the greatest healthcare system in the world for all of its flaws. They want a Canadian or British style single payer healthcare system. In other words, socialized medicine, where the government will take over the entire healthcare sector, all of it, which is one seventh of our economy. Now as someone who was born and raised in Canada, who actually experienced socialized medicine,
whose mother, whose father, whose grandmother, whose mother-in-law, all experienced treatment under a socialized healthcare system, I'm telling you these Democrats are insane. They're crazy. They're so reckless and irresponsible that if you vote for them this November, I'm telling you, you should seriously get your head examined. Number one is just the cost. By their numbers, their numbers, not the real numbers, they're phony-belony numbers. They admit this is Bernie Sanders now, this is AOC, this is their plan. It will cost the United States over a decade, 25 to 35 trillion dollars with a T, not billion,
trillion, 25 to 35 trillion dollars. This alone will bankrupt us. They're going on about a $5,000 dividend check. Oh, it's bribery. We can't afford it. We're going to go broke. Oh my God, in a time of deficits, how could he do this? Just Medicare for all. Forget the illegals and everything you're going to give the illegals. All the illegals you want to bring in, just forget all of that. Just Medicare for all. By the way, the real number is 50 to 60 trillion. As every independent analysis shows, it's basically double. It's literally double. But let's go with their number. 25 to 35 trillion. Caput, this country's finished. We're going to drown in red ink. You want to put 340 million people? Only in a government healthcare system? Good luck. Okay?
Good luck. But let me make it even more personal for everybody. Forget the fact that it's going to bankrupt us. We can't afford it. It's done. Okay? Let, just, as I like to say, let that go. Many of you have been wondering, where was the Koonerman yesterday? People were worried about me. Jeff, it's not like you to miss a show in the middle of the week. Plus you just came back from a recent vacation. Plus you had Labor Day off. And all of you know me. I'm a workhorse. I love to work. I love this job. I love being behind the microphone and, you know, speaking to the incredible audience of Kooner country. So why was the Koonerman off yesterday? The Koonerman was off yesterday because it was time for my colonoscopy. My doctor was saying I had one five, almost six years ago. He says you should have one every five years and he's right because colon cancer, especially for men.
You know what breast cancer is for women in terms of a lot of women can get it and many do get it. But if you catch it early, you know, it's like whatever, 95, 96, 98 percent chance, you can beat the cancer. It's the same thing with men and colon cancer. So honestly, I urge everybody out there, please, if you haven't, especially the men, get a colonoscopy if you're above 50 years old because colon cancer is brutal. It is brutal. And if you don't catch it early, it may actually kill you. Okay, but let, let, let that go. So I had colon cancer yesterday. Sorry, a colonoscopy yesterday praying. I didn't have colon cancer. Everything is fine. They did a, you know, they did the colonoscopy. Everything turned out great. My point is this, I could not believe the outstanding care that I got.
I got an appointment within less than a month. My doctor said what, it's been almost six years. Are you crazy, Kooner? No, no, no, no, no, you need a colonoscopy like now five years is usually the cut off less than 30 days. Shazam, the Kooner man gets an appointment. Okay, for my procedure. In Britain or Canada, you're looking at one year to two years minimum. That's the wait time for a colonoscopy. One to two years. So basically, if you have early stage cancer, you wait a year or two, you've got serious colon cancer, you're dead or they can't treat you. You're going to die in three weeks. Shazam, I get the, I get an appointment, but not only do I get an appointment, I'm going to name the place because it was that good. I want to, you know, highly recommend.
I can't give it a higher recommendation. Eastern Massachusetts Surgery Center during Norwood, La Creme, Dola Creme. The place was spotless. That wasn't a medical center. That's a hotel. The nurses, the doctors, incredibly nice, professional. Any question you have, they answer thorough, comprehensive, the Canadian or British healthcare system because it's Russian care. They're lucky if they give you two minutes of their time. I'm not kidding, two minutes. The procedure was done in 20 minutes. They put me under anesthesia. I couldn't believe how considerate and kind every single nurse was. The doctor who was originally from Poland, one of the best in the business.
I mean, he gave me the breakdown. All good. He was, I've never met a more professional doctor in my life. And everybody said, Jeff, you're in great hands, talented, super competent. They gave me water. They gave me ginger ale afterwards. You want gray em crackers. You want goldfish. What do you want? They call my wife to come pick me up because, you know, you've been sedated so you can't drive a car. It's almost like, you know, they call her. They actually walked grace and eye to the door to make sure that everything is fine. It's almost like concierge service. And as I'm sitting in this beautiful medical center with the best doctors, the best nurses, the best technology. And by the way, that's why the colonoscopies are so comprehensive and thorough.
They use the highest technology in the world. And 20 minute colonoscopy. Okay, it's it's almost like a, you know, like a fast food restaurant, like you do drive through. I'm like 20 minutes. That's it. They go, yeah. And we get everything. We see everything. This is world class medicine. This is I'm like, and I'm looking around and I'm like, and you people want Medicare for all, all of you liberals and leftists. You're insane. I'm telling you, you're insane. You're unwirly, you're utterly ignorant. You have no idea what goes on in other countries. This care that I received yesterday, and I could give you more examples, either me, grace or my children, is unheard of in Canada, unheard of in Britain, and unheard of in practically
every European country. Now are there problems with the insurance companies? Of course. Are there things in the healthcare system that can be better? Of course. Okay, I'm always battling my insurance company for some prescription that I need, especially with my eye drops. I suffer from glaucoma because of my type 2 diabetes. And there's one eye drop in particular. It's like I'm constantly back. Look, I need it. I've been using it for years. You know, and they're like, well, it's going to cost you $400 out of pocket. I go, no, no, I pay for insurance. It's $50 with insurance. So I'm always going back and forth. So I'm not saying there aren't problems. But to throw the baby out with the bath water, to just wreck the greatest healthcare system in the world, and to replace it with something that has been a disaster every time it's been
tried. And by the way, incredibly expensive. And that gives you garbage care if you're lucky to get care because many people actually die before they were able to get care. You have a pardon me, but you have a serious screw loose. Okay. The elevator does not go to the top. So this to me is another reason why if I have to crawl on broken glass to vote November 3rd for the Republicans, I'm going to crawl on broken glass. And I know many people are upset with Trump. They say he's broken some of his promises. That's what some Trump supporters say. They email me. They're not happy with the war in Iran. They're not happy with affordability with inflation, the price of gas at the pump, the price of groceries. I hear all of that. I get you. Okay.
I hear you. The alternative. It's so infinitely worse that I hope you got just a taste of it under Biden, just a taste. But these lunatics now like Bernie and AOC and Mamdani. This will not set us back 10 years as Trump said in his speech. This will be the end of the American experiment as we know it. And I'm telling you, once you go down the road of socialism and communism, there is no going back. You have no idea what you're throwing away. You have no idea. The days of getting a colonoscopy in three weeks, the days of seeing your doctor like my Ashton was also just as luck would have it. He was sick yesterday as well at a very bad scratchy throat came back from school.
They thought it was strep. It wasn't, but boom. He comes home at noon. He had a doctor's appointment by 230, 230. We have a lot of listeners in Canada. I want to ask every Canadian listener, when was the last time your child was sick or you were sick? And you got an appointment with the doctor, forget in two hours in the same day. In the same day. Okay, forget the same day to all of you in Canada in the same week. Forget day. You're sick on Monday. You just want to see a doctor by Friday. How many times does that happen to you? Never. Never. It's minimum two weeks to see a doctor. By then, you're like, what's the point? My cold is gone. Or if it's strep, it gets even worse. That's what we're on the verge of throwing away.
I'm not asking you. I'm begging you. For you, for your children, for your grandchildren. What are this November? Because I'm telling you, if the Socialists win, if the Democrats win, our grandchildren will never forgive us. Bill in Sudbury, thanks for holding Bill and welcome. Hello, good morning, good morning, Jeff. Hi, Bill. So $5,000 is your price. How much it will cost to get you to forget conservatism wholeheartedly? Well, what's, I mean, since when are you an expert on conservatism? That's number one. You're a hard core moonbat by your own admission. You're a hardcore leftist and a communist Democrat. So don't lecture me about conservatism. That's number one. Number two, what's your price? How much do you collect in welfare?
I was horrified when your guy stood up there and said he wants ten new battleships when he's something. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Forget it, keep doing this. Forget the 10 you, forget the 10 you battleships. You said $5,000 is my price. It's my money. I pay taxes. You don't. Okay? You're on welfare. I know you've got some little side gig with driving limos or whatever you do, but you basically you live off the government teeth. Okay, you live off the public. You live off our, our, our large S, all right? So you're getting how many, how much government benefits do you get off of my money? How much? Just tell me how much do you make? Yes, because but you're $5,000. That would be good. It's my money. Well, it's my money. The $5,000 pay off your promise. No, no, no, it's not a pay off. No, it's not, it's my money. I pay taxes. Absolutely pay off. Listen to me. Listen, I pay, stop, relax. I pay a lot more in taxes. Believe me than you do.
Not even think you pay taxes. So $5,000 of all the taxes that I pay every year. I pay $13,000 a year in property taxes alone. I'm not even talking federal income tax, state income tax, sales tax, excise taxes, I could go on and on. Okay? Believe me. In Massachusetts, liberals like you make a profit off of me, a huge profit. So why can't I get my government a little bit of my money back? Since when does it belong to you? Tell me, why should I keep putting money in your pocket? So you can stay home and call this show once a month to lecture me about conservatism. Go ahead, tell me because you're on welfare. So you're not paying taxes. I am. So why can't I get some of my money back? Explain that to me. You're not paying for the job of a whole fantasy story about me built up in your mind. You think this promise is better than the doge check and the carif check.
Well, well, the doge, well, no, you don't even remember running on no more stupid wars. Okay. Okay. Forget, forget forever wars. I'm asking you. I'm asking you. I'm asking you. See, this is what I mean. You just like you're like you're foaming at the mouth. You said I was paid off with a that my price is a $5,000 dividend check. My question to you and please just answer it. Why can't I get some of my money back? What for what? My taxes. So you'll vote for him. I'm going to vote for whether he gives me the vote for him. I'm going to vote for him whether he's going to give me the $5,000 or not. My question to you is again, you're not answering. It you want. Listen, you've called many times and said the illegals deserve all our money. So you want me to give all of my taxpayer money to illegals. This state, your governor that you voted for 50, 60, in fact, now it's $70,000 a year
to an illegal alien family. So illegal aliens who are not even citizens who broke our laws can get $70,000 of our taxpayer money. My taxpayer money. It's okay. You love that. But I want a little bit of what I pay every year back to me. Why should I get $5,000 of my own tax money? Please explain to me. Ava funneling that money up to a half a dozen HMO owner billionaires because they'll take care of you because nobody else except for you is on the up and up. Everybody else except for you is either corrupt or dumb. You can't possibly work this out of the national health care because we're just too corrupt. This is the hate America stuff that you do every day. And by the way, nobody hates America more than the Trumpers. Else is at war with American culture. Okay, talk about entitled. I have no, honestly, I have no idea.
You're raving like a madman. Yes. No, no, I mean, I asked you a simple question. You're going on about HMOs. I hate America. Trump hates America. I'm asking you a simple question. I think I've asked it now four times. I pay a lot in taxes. In fact, if you knew the real number, let's put it this way. Okay. I pay at least a hundred thousand dollars a year in taxes. I pay a hundred thousand dollars a year in taxes. Okay, minimum. I can't get five thousand dollars back. Can you explain to me why I can't get five thousand dollars back of my hard-earned money? Go. I'm all you need is a big write off. All you need is to bankrupt your hotel and you get $90 million dollars. Look, look, I'm... That's decade. Right. Okay. Again, you're back to Trump. You see, you can't answer my question. So illegal aliens can get $30,000 for food, for apartments, for furniture.
That's okay. But I can't get five thousand dollars on my own money back. Is that what you're trying to tell me? When you pay taxes, you let go of it. Okay. You can't keep your hand on it. Okay. I can't get some money back. So you're saying I can't get some of my own money back. No. No. But once it leaves your hand, it's not yours anymore. That's right. That's right. Because the government doesn't work for us, right? We work for the government. Well, not you personally. It requires some agreement. Well, what do you think about it? If I'm being taxed, where does the money go, Bill? So why should we go? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just answer my question. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Answer my question. When I get taxed, can you just... No, no, don't do the break. Please don't do the break. Okay. Extended for a minute. I'm tired of this, these lies. I get paid taxes. I pay taxes. Where does the money go? You get more back as an American.
No, I don't. Okay. No, I don't. That's a lie. But you're not answering my question because it's not true. And again, you can't answer my question. It goes to the government. So if my labor, if my money that I earned, that I work for, goes to the government. Then you're telling me the government doesn't own me? You're telling me I don't have a right to my own money? Let me ask you, how much do you pay in taxes? Which country are you going to get a better deal from? Where are you going to go with this tax freeze than to do? What exists? Well, first of all, there are many other countries around the world that you pay a lot less taxes than the United States. That's number one. Number two, how much do you pay in taxes? What? I'm not telling you anything. Yeah, because you don't pay anything. And taxes. So let me ask you this, final question. Hold on, Mike. How much should I continue to pay for you?
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